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Title: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] - Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 13, 2008, 11:43:39 PM
Bweeheehee.

"And now, the award for the shortest attention span goes to ooo! Shiny thing!"


And yeah, I think this counts as stupid and dangerous...
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Caswin on January 13, 2008, 11:45:06 PM
I'd almost forgotten why I liked Fi so much.

Oh, Fi...
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFire on January 13, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
I'm so jealous of Amber's ability to draw nice paws-hands.
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: techmaster-glitch on January 13, 2008, 11:50:55 PM
Holy dang! Biggs is back!
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Naldru on January 13, 2008, 11:52:57 PM
It will be interesting to see his mother's reaction given her feelings towards having Dan come visit her (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_725.php).  And if there is a meeting, it will be interesting to see whether Destania appears as a gazelle or a cubi (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_703.php).
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Kayriel on January 13, 2008, 11:55:35 PM
Well, Dan hasn't seen her since he was a kid, right? And she's obviously been keeping tabs on him, somewhat, so she's likely trying to distance herself from him. Why that would be should be interesting to find out. Onwards! D=
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Pagan on January 13, 2008, 11:59:16 PM
Yay, Biggs!

How did Dan know Biggs knows where his Mom is? And why does Dan suddenly want to find his Mom?

My guesses are that Alexsi told Dan about Destania being in the twink territories and that Dan wants to know if his mom was as cold, cruel, and generally heartless as Abel claims (not to mention the whole cubi thing, parental guidance could be useful to Dan right now).

And judging from Jyrras's question in the first panel, I think Dan might've forgotten that handy teleport skill that Fi has.

oh yeah...
Yay for Fi!
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Zedd on January 14, 2008, 12:07:02 AM
Oh my...Revolving doors eh?
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 12:16:02 AM
Dan has been talking about his mom for the past few days and not that he's dealing with the whole cubi thing he may want to know more about her as a figure other in then as  his mom. as a teacher what can she teach him and as a mother why didn't she come back when she found out where dad was? did she find dad? what has see been up too she he last saw her in twink territories? and why do my wings look like the head of the drake i hate more then hate it's? you know  that kind of thing.
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: kaskar on January 14, 2008, 01:05:32 AM

   8) Ah, when will poor confused Dan finally work himself out ...
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Hellcat on January 14, 2008, 02:16:54 AM
I think that the comic is straying further away from the Dark Pegasus issue
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: kaskar on January 14, 2008, 02:33:26 AM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on January 14, 2008, 02:16:54 AM
I think that the comic is straying further away from the Dark Pegasus issue

   8) All we had was a stolen body, a hole, and a note.  Was that really a Dead Pegasus issue ?
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 03:47:11 AM
agreed my understanding is that DP is a reoccurring consent in furrea  he'll be around to Ha Ann when he comes and what not.
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: rabid_fox on January 14, 2008, 04:23:30 AM

Side point - I watched my father get lost in revolving doors once. It was hilarious.

(To explain this, for some reason, the innards of the revolving doors were nearly all mirrors, so it was pretty disorienting to go through.)
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 04:26:00 AM
Ah, this made me chuckle.

Quote from: Pagan on January 13, 2008, 11:59:16 PM
How did Dan know Biggs knows where his Mom is? And why does Dan suddenly want to find his Mom?

My guesses are that Alexsi told Dan about Destania being in the twink territories and that Dan wants to know if his mom was as cold, cruel, and generally heartless as Abel claims (not to mention the whole cubi thing, parental guidance could be useful to Dan right now).

I think it's something along those lines, although bear in mind that Dan actually saw his mother briefly the last time he was in Twink Territories.

QuoteAnd judging from Jyrras's question in the first panel, I think Dan might've forgotten that handy teleport skill that Fi has.
It seems reasonable (both in terms of realism and also to prevent them being too powerful in story terms) that a Warp-Aci can only travel to somewhere it knows.  After all, Fi's probably never heard of the "Twink Territories", has it?  Fi could probably take him back, though.

I agree with your reasoning, though.  It's probably because he wants to find out how evil she was (or 'is'?  We still don't know...)
Poor Dan, he might not like the answer  :<
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Kayriel on January 14, 2008, 05:04:04 AM
Well, Tapewolf, Fi was Fa'Lina's Warp-Aci originally, and I'm fairly sure she commands an intimate knowledge of just about everywhere in Furrae. He'd likely have been quite a few places with her.
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Reaver225 on January 14, 2008, 05:23:02 AM
And something totally random!

Is... Abel sharpening his claws?
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Poofyspikes on January 14, 2008, 05:26:53 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 04:26:00 AM
I think it's something along those lines, although bear in mind that Dan actually saw his mother briefly the last time he was in Twink Territories.
It seemed more like a throwaway joke to me, though. That, and it's been 'bout ... six or seven years since then. Of course, Amber could just be incorporating that circumstance into the plot to avoid plotholes and obsessive forumites who'd point out those holes for much lawlz and e-penis-enhancement.

Unless she's had this entire thing planned out well over half a decade in advance. You never know.

Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on January 14, 2008, 02:16:54 AM
I think that the comic is straying further away from the Dark Pegasus issue
Do you honestly expect that everything will be resolved as soon as it's introduced?

Quote from: Reaver225 on January 14, 2008, 05:23:02 AM
Is... Abel sharpening his claws?
:kruger

BUT ANYWAYS, back to the more pressing topic of revolving doors. The hypothetical revolving door could have been used to lower air conditioning costs for the Twink Territories - after all, they've probably got enough computers in there to cover the heating in the winter months, so A/C's pretty crucial.
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 05:35:49 AM
Quote from: Poofyspikes on January 14, 2008, 05:26:53 AM
It seemed more like a throwaway joke to me, though. That, and it's been 'bout ... six or seven years since then.
What about the kidnapping Alexsi-in-the-belief-she-was-Dan thing?  That was from the same time period.
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 05:45:16 AM
planning shows intelligence. planning for everything shows paranoia.

Quote from:   "random E"
this is your brain :mowhappy. this is your brain on dmfa :mowcookie. any questions?
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Zedd on January 14, 2008, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: Reaver225 on January 14, 2008, 05:23:02 AM
And something totally random!

Is... Abel sharpening his claws?

Why yes...Yes he is...Alot people do it now and then
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Poofyspikes on January 14, 2008, 05:59:28 AM
You mean the "Get me to the Church" arc? Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough in what I meant by "six or seven years." I meant that comic 78 was drawn in 2001, and anything new involving us actually seeing Destania didn't happen until 2006. So that's our time, not DMFA time.

Back then, DMFA's humor was more gag-driven (cheap lawlz!) than character-driven (after all, the meeting was preceded by "What would my mother say if she saw me in a place like this?" - the answer obviously being "Hi Danny!"), so I figured that a throwaway joke like that wouldn't really have that much of an impact on the plot, and I don't know how seriously we can take #78 as legitimate backstory aside from Amber incorporating some of the circumstances from said gag to avoid forum impeachment for retconning.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: NDDR on January 14, 2008, 08:21:53 AM
chuck norris can slam a revolving door. chuck norris will kill dan if he attmepts to copy him.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 09:37:08 AM
comic 78 was about a year ago dmfa time i believe. but then who can say but amber and be sure. it was when Biggs stole the famed hammer and it was mentioned in the get me to the church arc but i don't remember if they said exactly when  it happened
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Alondro on January 14, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
Dan ended his sentence with a preposition!   >:O

*English teachers around the world demand a boycott of DMFA in protest of the grammatical faux pas!* 
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Angel on January 14, 2008, 09:56:51 AM
Somehow, I get the feeling that Fi needed to catch up with Dan after spinning around in the door going "WHEEEeeeEEEeeeEEEeee" etc.

Quote from: NDDR on January 14, 2008, 08:21:53 AM
chuck norris can slam a revolving door. chuck norris will kill dan if he attmepts to copy him.

Oh boy. Chuck Norris. Someone get the baseball bat!
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 14, 2008, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: Poofyspikes on January 14, 2008, 05:26:53 AM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on January 14, 2008, 02:16:54 AM
I think that the comic is straying further away from the Dark Pegasus issue
Do you honestly expect that everythinganything will be resolved as soon as it's introduced?

Fixed your quote, there. ;-]
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Sid on January 14, 2008, 10:55:30 AM
The age-old comic about Dan seeing his mother had been widely considered non-canon until the "Get me to the Church" arc, where Amber picked up that old idea again. At least if I remember correctly.

About Warp-Aci... I think it depends on the Cubi where the Warp-Aci can teleport to. Fi had to be mailed to Lost Lake the first time around, but later, Fa'Lina used her new Warp-Aci (Fu?) to teleport there and commented on how this was the area she had lost Fi's signal in, so to speak.

So I guess this means that a Cubi can go to any destination the Cubi or a linked Warp-Aci has ever been to.

However, Dan is primarily an adventurer and still has issues with the whole Cubi thing. So it's likely that, given the choice, he'll do things the adventurer way, and that means hacking and slashing his way through a forest to get to his destination. Besides, it's good workout and gets the blood pumping for the confrontation with Biggs.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: rabid_fox on January 14, 2008, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Alondro on January 14, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
Dan ended his sentence with a preposition!   >:O

*English teachers around the world demand a boycott of DMFA in protest of the grammatical faux pas!* 

Actually, a preposition is a perfectly acceptable thing to end a sentence with.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 14, 2008, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on January 14, 2008, 11:29:47 AM
Actually, a preposition is a perfectly acceptable thing to end a sentence with.

*snerk*
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Ailis on January 14, 2008, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 14, 2008, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: Poofyspikes on January 14, 2008, 05:26:53 AM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on January 14, 2008, 02:16:54 AM
I think that the comic is straying further away from the Dark Pegasus issue
Do you honestly expect that everythinganything will be resolved as soon as it's introduced?

Fixed your quote, there. ;-]

Nah, "everything" is appropriate.  After all, why Alexis isn't a cubi is broguht up and dealt with in one strip (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_306.php).

(Can somebody PM me about how to insert the hyperlink as text, not the whole url?)
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 14, 2008, 12:22:07 PM
Like that. ;-]
Title: Re: 14/01/08 [DMFA#865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Caswin on January 14, 2008, 12:32:38 PM
So... what about Amber's comparably recent "Ask the Author" statement that "Dan's mother is in Twink Territories!"?  Sounds official enough to me.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 12:40:11 PM
agreed but it still doesn't set a time frame that we can be sure of does it?
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: thegayhare on January 14, 2008, 12:56:18 PM
now the thing I'm wondering is...

Do you think Deebs has hit Jyrras's gas line yet or do you think she's given up
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 05:45:16 AM
planning shows intelligence. planning for everything shows paranoia.

Quote from:   "random E"
this is your brain :mowhappy. this is your brain on dmfa :mowcookie. any questions?
Actually, trying to plan for everything indicates obsession
Believing that you can plan for everything indicates a lack of reality

Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 01:16:23 PM
I think Dark Pegasus comes back because Regina keeps resurrecting him.

Also, in the chapter description on the archive page, did Amber not mention a "Mother of all flashbacks"? I wouldn't be surprised if Destania isn't going to be revealing a looot of backstory. I also would not be surprised if DP doesn't show up at all. "The return of Dark Pegasus?" is a questionable title, after all.

Also... Ailis: If you ever want to figure out how someone did something in a post, do what I do. Quote them and look at the code.

EDIT: "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put." -paraphrased from Churchill.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Actually, trying to plan for everything indicates obsession
Believing that you can plan for everything indicates a lack of reality


most people are somewhat lacking in the acceptance of reality.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Actually, trying to plan for everything indicates obsession
Or good programming practice.

Quote from: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 01:16:23 PM
Also, in the chapter description on the archive page, did Amber not mention a "Mother of all flashbacks"? I wouldn't be surprised if Destania isn't going to be revealing a looot of backstory.
Woah... good catch.  I think you may well be onto something here.

However I'm not sure I can agree with your assertion that Regina is responsible to resurrecting DP.  I'm not sure it quite gels with the general demon ethos.  If it is DP's kin or friends that's responsible (and we don't even know that there is any relationship between DP and Regina other than the fact that they're the same race), then supposedly they would respect Dan for being 'arder than Pegasus, not resurrect the loser...
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Fresnor on January 14, 2008, 01:57:50 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Actually, trying to plan for everything indicates obsession
Believing that you can plan for everything indicates a lack of reality


most people are somewhat lacking in the acceptance of reality.

It's not that they don't accept reality, they just replace it with their own.   :mowtongue
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 14, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
On the topic of 'How does Dan know Destania is in Twink Territory?', has anyone mentioned the possibility of him catching a fragment of thought from Alexsi? I had a quick scan through, it doesn't seem to have been brought up...

Anyways, yeah; Since Dan's thoughtreading abilities are still in their early stages, it would make sense that he would hear from Alexsi's mind that his mother is in TT, but not realise that it's Alexsi's thought, so to speak...then again, who knows how Dan's mind works XD

I want to see Wednesday's strip so badly now >-> just to see what Dan does next...
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Insert Witty Name on January 14, 2008, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 14, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
On the topic of 'How does Dan know Destania is in Twink Territory?', has anyone mentioned the possibility of him catching a fragment of thought from Alexsi? I had a quick scan through, it doesn't seem to have been brought up...

Anyways, yeah; Since Dan's thoughtreading abilities are still in their early stages, it would make sense that he would hear from Alexsi's mind that his mother is in TT, but not realise that it's Alexsi's thought, so to speak...then again, who knows how Dan's mind works XD

I want to see Wednesday's strip so badly now >-> just to see what Dan does next...

Or Alexsi could simply just have told him. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best, even if it is no fun.

EDIT: spellig
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: AnizInDisguise on January 14, 2008, 03:16:19 PM
I'm just going to go right out there and say this: I don't get the revolving door thing
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Rithm Alfortele on January 14, 2008, 03:33:17 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Dan picked up on Biggs' thoughts accidentally with the use of his mental powers? Sorta like...

Dan: Hmm.... flying through Twink Territories... I don't see her anywhere.

Biggs: Dooty doot, Location of Destania, dooty doot!

Dan: BIGGS!  :kruger
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Sid on January 14, 2008, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 14, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
On the topic of 'How does Dan know Destania is in Twink Territory?', has anyone mentioned the possibility of him catching a fragment of thought from Alexsi? I had a quick scan through, it doesn't seem to have been brought up...

Anyways, yeah; Since Dan's thoughtreading abilities are still in their early stages, it would make sense that he would hear from Alexsi's mind that his mother is in TT, but not realise that it's Alexsi's thought, so to speak...then again, who knows how Dan's mind works XD

I want to see Wednesday's strip so badly now >-> just to see what Dan does next...

Interesting suggestion, even though I think he would've breached that topic with her first. Him catching such a thought and then acting on it without saying a word seems somewhat unlikely (though, of course, possible).

The variation of that would of course be "She told him", but I somehow doubt that because she'd know he'd instantly stomp off then.

Quote from: AnizInDisguise on January 14, 2008, 03:16:19 PM
I'm just going to go right out there and say this: I don't get the revolving door thing

Unless I'm mistaken, he's referring to how people constantly walk in and out of his house (and territory) without permission. Years ago, Dan and the others to get the mallet back. Then there was Wildy's rescue party. And now Dan again.

Like, people come and go at a frequency that he might as well just rip out the door or install a revolving one.

Also compare at least one Pratchett novel (Mort, maybe? Was something Death mused about...) and of course the Order of the Stick revolving door afterlife (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0487.html)
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
Quote from: Zachski on January 14, 2008, 03:33:17 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Dan picked up on Biggs' thoughts accidentally with the use of his mental powers? Sorta like...

Dan: Hmm.... flying through Twink Territories... I don't see her anywhere.

Biggs: Dooty doot, Location of Destania, dooty doot!

Dan: BIGGS!  :kruger

When would he have gotten a chance to read Biggs mind? Besides, I dont' think Dan knows how to do that yet.

I think Fi started babbling, and let it out.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 05:29:31 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
When would he have gotten a chance to read Biggs mind? Besides, I dont' think Dan knows how to do that yet.

I think Fi started babbling, and let it out.

While I wouldn't exactly put it past Fi, a crucial flaw in that reasoning is that Fi probably doesn't know where Destania is either.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 14, 2008, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: Zombie_Hunter on January 14, 2008, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 14, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
On the topic of 'How does Dan know Destania is in Twink Territory?', has anyone mentioned the possibility of him catching a fragment of thought from Alexsi? I had a quick scan through, it doesn't seem to have been brought up...

Anyways, yeah; Since Dan's thoughtreading abilities are still in their early stages, it would make sense that he would hear from Alexsi's mind that his mother is in TT, but not realise that it's Alexsi's thought, so to speak...then again, who knows how Dan's mind works XD

I want to see Wednesday's strip so badly now >-> just to see what Dan does next...

Or Alexsi could simply just have told him. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best, even if it is no fun.

Yeah, I considered that, but it seemed too simple (and kinda un-Alexsi-ish)
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_712.php Plus, from this comic you kinda get the idea that Destania told Alexsi not to mention her. But who knows XD

ON YET ANOTHER TOPIC! Will Biggs recognise Dan as the 'smoking brunette'? XD that's my other reason for wanting Wednesday to hurry up...
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 05:29:31 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
When would he have gotten a chance to read Biggs mind? Besides, I dont' think Dan knows how to do that yet.

I think Fi started babbling, and let it out.

While I wouldn't exactly put it past Fi, a crucial flaw in that reasoning is that Fi probably doesn't know where Destania is either.

Fi, theoretically, knows everything Fa'Lina's been into. Which may or may not involve knowing the whereabouts of Dest.

I bet Dan's going to say "You know the brunette? That was ME." I have no idea how it's going to be made possible, but I really, REALLY wanna see it happen.

Also: Durn it, when is Dan and Matilda gonna go out on a date!? I'm still waiting to see that!
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 06:48:25 PM
Fi, theoretically, knows everything Fa'Lina's been into. Which may or may not involve knowing the whereabouts of Dest.

I'm not sure Fa'Lina knows about that.  It's up in the air whether she knew what happened to Destania at all after she left the Academy.  Personally I'm inclined to believe she returned to formally resign (and retrieve the family heirlooms with the clan mark on), but in that case the last Fa'Lina is likely to know is that she'd married an adventurer and was going to settle down.

Her omniscience seems to tail off a couple of months after someone leaves the Academy, and we never knew how long she'd been on the mission before she was attacked.  So whether she knows about the Biggs connection (and Biggs wasn't even born when she left) is up in the air.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Actually, trying to plan for everything indicates obsession
Or good programming practice.
There are some things that shouldn't be planned for because of their low probability and/or impact.  Or at least should not be planned for until the more likely scenarios and/or those with higher impact are considered.

When writing software, I'm not going to consider the possibility of the sun going supernova.  It has virtually zero probability of happening.  Furthermore, since its occurrence would vaporize the hardware the software is running on, its occurrence would make the subject of reliability irrelevant.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Alondro on January 14, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 14, 2008, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 14, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Actually, trying to plan for everything indicates obsession
Or good programming practice.

When writing software, I'm not going to consider the possibility of the sun going supernova.  It has virtually zero probability of happening.  Furthermore, since its occurrence would vaporize the hardware the software is running on, its occurrence would make the subject of reliability irrelevant.


*And just as Naldru settles down for a long night of programming, the sun goes supoernova!  But by a strange twist of fate, Naldru and his computer survive!  Alas, the drive has been scrambled by the radiation, and Naldru is doomed to float in space forever unable to program again, all because he didn't prepare for everything!*

That's what happens when you play with fate, if the Amber Zone.   :3
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Caswin on January 14, 2008, 08:43:21 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 14, 2008, 12:40:11 PM
agreed but it still doesn't set a time frame that we can be sure of does it?
It makes it almost inescapably clear that the scene from #78 was legit and canon.  I think that's enough.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Aleolus on January 14, 2008, 09:28:34 PM
Yay!  Biggs is back, and he doesn't look very happy.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: stiletto on January 14, 2008, 11:42:23 PM
You know, it must reflect rather poorly on me that the first thing I thought was "Hey, Dan stole Abel's shirt!"
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Hellcat on January 14, 2008, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: stiletto on January 14, 2008, 11:42:23 PM
You know, it must reflect rather poorly on me that the first thing I thought was "Hey, Dan stole Abel's shirt!"

no, Able's shirt did no have the gray trimmings. Same colour though
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Rithm Alfortele on January 15, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 14, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
When would he have gotten a chance to read Biggs mind? Besides, I dont' think Dan knows how to do that yet.

EDIT: I'd first like to point out that Dan wouldn't have done any MIND reading.  He would've been doing thought reading, which is something a little different.

As far as thought reading goes... it's not a matter of knowing how, considering that it's no more an active ability than actually hearing (at least that's what I gathered from this: http://missmab.com/Demo/Cubi01.php).

If anything, considering how much of a novice that Dan is, he has a more likely chance of "overhearing" something by accident.

Which is why I imagined that simply being in the area, even with mind filters, Dan's mind was on his mother.  Therefore, he could've easily picked up on the name of his mother (a key word as Abel would put it), homed in on Biggs, and, well, yeah.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: kaskar on January 15, 2008, 02:43:55 AM
   8) Sidenote. Do Creatures tails regenerate if caught in a revolving door?  ( That is, by the door revolving too fast, and getting the tail ... )
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Fresnor on January 15, 2008, 03:09:05 AM
Isn't the revolving door right next to the doggy door?  And it's "Twink" territory... like a door would stop anyone anyways, they've probably all been picked open already.  :mowhappy
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: DavidRokon on January 15, 2008, 03:21:22 AM
Anyone notice he had two glasses? Wonder who else is in there.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Coyabbit on January 15, 2008, 03:37:35 AM
Quote from: DavidRokon on January 15, 2008, 03:21:22 AM
Anyone notice he had two glasses? Wonder who else is in there.

Thank you, I was wondering when someone was going to mention that.

There are several things going on here that are odd. One is Dan is not wearing his normal cloths, two is Biggs has two glasses, and three is the Revolving door comment. 

Its been quite some time since the last time Dan and crew made their way into the Twink Territories and then they filled out forms to get in.  I think it is more likely that someone else broke in and that is who the second glass is for.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFox on January 15, 2008, 03:53:04 AM
Destania. I'll bet you a million jillion donuts.

Dan: Where's my mother!?
Biggs: *Point*
Dest: *Wave*
Dan: Oh. Ok.

Lulz ensue.

I still don't think Dan read Biggs mind. If he did, he's left it an awfully long time before getting around to it.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 15, 2008, 04:15:27 AM
Quote from: Coyabbit on January 15, 2008, 03:37:35 AM
Its been quite some time since the last time Dan and crew made their way into the Twink Territories and then they filled out forms to get in.  I think it is more likely that someone else broke in and that is who the second glass is for.

The clothes are interesting, although Dan has been changing outfit lately (e.g. 676). As for the second glass, don't forget that he drugged Wildy, so she's presumably still there.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Kayriel on January 15, 2008, 04:31:09 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 15, 2008, 04:15:27 AM
Quote from: Coyabbit on January 15, 2008, 03:37:35 AM
Its been quite some time since the last time Dan and crew made their way into the Twink Territories and then they filled out forms to get in.  I think it is more likely that someone else broke in and that is who the second glass is for.

The clothes are interesting, although Dan has been changing outfit lately (e.g. 676). As for the second glass, don't forget that he drugged Wildy, so she's presumably still there.

He didn't ship her back? I figured he drugged her and sent her back home. o_O;
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Coyabbit on January 15, 2008, 04:39:41 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 15, 2008, 04:15:27 AM
Quote from: Coyabbit on January 15, 2008, 03:37:35 AM
Its been quite some time since the last time Dan and crew made their way into the Twink Territories and then they filled out forms to get in.  I think it is more likely that someone else broke in and that is who the second glass is for.

The clothes are interesting, although Dan has been changing outfit lately (e.g. 676). As for the second glass, don't forget that he drugged Wildy, so she's presumably still there.

You do make a good point, though I can't believe that I didn't notice that Wildy has been missing in action for so long. The only hint that she might be home is #751 where is is cleaning off the marker but then again she might just be using Biggs's bathroom.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFox on January 15, 2008, 05:17:34 AM
Waittaminnit... Last time I saw Dan change outfit was in #676 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_676.php)... Right before the rest of the crew went to find Biggs!

Coincidence!?
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: kaskar on January 15, 2008, 05:31:15 AM

   What will Fi be getting out of the mini-bar ?
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 15, 2008, 05:33:49 AM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 15, 2008, 05:17:34 AM
Waittaminnit... Last time I saw Dan change outfit was in #676 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_676.php)... Right before the rest of the crew went to find Biggs!

Coincidence!?

Actually there have been subsequent changes, e.g. #812 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_812.php), about where this particular mess started.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Shadowcatcher on January 15, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 13, 2008, 11:43:39 PM
And yeah, I think this counts as stupid and dangerous...
Stupid?  Yeah, no question about that.  Dangerous?  Depends what's at stake.  I don't think Biggs' is going to do anything that would permanently damage Destinia's kid.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: LionHeart on January 15, 2008, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: Sid on January 14, 2008, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 14, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
On the topic of 'How does Dan know Destania is in Twink Territory?', has anyone mentioned the possibility of him catching a fragment of thought from Alexsi? I had a quick scan through, it doesn't seem to have been brought up...

Anyways, yeah; Since Dan's thoughtreading abilities are still in their early stages, it would make sense that he would hear from Alexsi's mind that his mother is in TT, but not realise that it's Alexsi's thought, so to speak...then again, who knows how Dan's mind works XD

I want to see Wednesday's strip so badly now >-> just to see what Dan does next...

Interesting suggestion, even though I think he would've breached that topic with her first. Him catching such a thought and then acting on it without saying a word seems somewhat unlikely (though, of course, possible).

Oh, I don't know. It is Dan, after all...
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 15, 2008, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on January 15, 2008, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 13, 2008, 11:43:39 PM
And yeah, I think this counts as stupid and dangerous...
Stupid?  Yeah, no question about that.  Dangerous?  Depends what's at stake.  I don't think Biggs' is going to do anything that would permanently damage Destinia's kid.
Quote from: LionHeart on January 15, 2008, 10:11:51 AM
Oh, I don't know. It is Dan, after all...

;-]
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Naldru on January 15, 2008, 11:54:16 AM
Is there a possibility that he found something when reading Destania's book that led him to believe that she was working with Biggs.  Perhaps some information on management techniques that recalled something at Twink City.  After all, there has been a lot of discussion of the book.  Perhaps the technique for stealing the hammer so that she could get a look at Dan and the kidnapping of Alexsis were mentioned as techniques.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Tapewolf on January 15, 2008, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: Naldru on January 15, 2008, 11:54:16 AM
Is there a possibility that he found something when reading Destania's book that led him to believe that she was working with Biggs.
Biggs wasn't even born until several years after she left (and the book must pre-date that).  What's a puzzlement is that Biggs said their families had been working together for generations.
Destania is a shade over 7000, which is a lot of generations - longer than most Earth religions, let alone family alliances - unless she's been periodically leaving the Academy (her mission?  missions?), or it's another member of the clan who's been in contact with Biggs' ancestors.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: WhiteFox on January 15, 2008, 04:05:35 PM
Well, how often do cubi reproduce? I mean, even if it's once in 200 years, and Destania had a family when she was younger, and they had a generation every 200 years, she could be a Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great- Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great- Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandmother by now.

Mind you, I doubt Cubi are even that prolific. Biggs is probably talking about generations of *his* family. It's still a possibility, though. Also, technically, their families have been friends for more than one of Destania's generations: Dest is one generation, Dan is the second generation. That's two, so the plural works.

Hey, if their families are close, maybe Destania introduced Wildy to Dan when they were younger. They go pretty far back (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php), don't they?
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Kayriel on January 15, 2008, 04:33:54 PM
Wildy was wearing a dress, so I'd imagine that had to be quite some time ago. Perhaps they were 5-8 around that time, as we see in the flashback where Dan last attempts to use magic.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Pagan on January 15, 2008, 07:03:48 PM
I didn't see any of the discussion for 726, but I'm pretty sure that Biggs was talking about his family's generations, not Dest's, seeing how he said "You've been a family friend..."  not something like "Our families have been friends for generations."

And going back a bit, I'm pretty what Abel meant about "dangerous" was anything involving dragons. Neither Fi, nor Abel, nor Dan would think that Biggs and Dest actually are involved with dragons (judging by current revealed knowledge of the characters). But I doubt that Dan is any serious trouble going to the Twink Territories. I mean, Biggs was talking about inviting Dan there anyway, so it can't be that bad.
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: e_voyager on January 16, 2008, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on January 15, 2008, 04:05:35 PM

Mind you, I doubt Cubi are even that prolific. Biggs is probably talking about generations of *his* family. It's still a possibility, though. Also, technically, their families have been friends for more than one of Destania's generations: Dest is one generation, Dan is the second generation. That's two, so the plural works.

Hey, if their families are close, maybe Destania introduced Wildy to Dan when they were younger. They go pretty far back (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php), don't they?

well that's not the only one that seems to go far back be seeing what we know about Mab this on  confuses me  (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_558.php)
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Naldru on January 16, 2008, 08:03:54 PM
Dan recognized some of Destania's moves in the way that Abel fought.  What I meant was that Destania might have discussed management techniques in her book in a similar fashion to Machiavelli's The Prince (It is better to be feared than loved was one of the topics in that book.) and that Destania would have course used her own management techniques in helping to run the Twinks kingdom for Biggs.  (You can imagine how Destania would handle insubordinate subordinates.)
Title: Re: 01/14/08 [DMFA #865] Woot! Revolving doors rawk!
Post by: Poofyspikes on January 16, 2008, 08:14:18 PM
Quote from: kaskar on January 15, 2008, 05:31:15 AM
What will Fi be getting out of the mini-bar ?
Hot Pockets.