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Title: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Caswin on November 30, 2007, 11:09:02 PM
Aniz is a scary evil 'cubus.

But we knew that already.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Alondro on November 30, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
Ahem... 30 days hath September, April, June, and NOVEMBER.

Tomorrow is Dec 1. 

:P

But he has made one miscalculation.  What if May should contract an illness and die young?  What if she kills herself from the trauma she's just endured?  Then he has no more hold over Abel all of a sudden. 

Tsk tsk, villains never do think these things through very carefully.  That's why they end up getting beaten every time!   ;)
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: rt on November 30, 2007, 11:14:26 PM
Darn, even when you kidnap someone .. paperwork paperwork paperwork!
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Sid on November 30, 2007, 11:24:59 PM
Nuuuu don't leave, Aniz... you're awesome in your evilness, and I dig your dress code and color scheme...  :C

(Edit: ...wait, I actually was up long enough to actually catch an update before going to bed? ...OMG WHEN DID IT BECOME 5.30am? *dies*)
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: WhiteFire on November 30, 2007, 11:39:49 PM
Aniz exits stage right...

Ok. Well then. I hope the scary poodle lady explains why he chose this path to rearing young since obviously he isn't going to bother (no matter how many times he is asked WTF.)

Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Zedd on November 30, 2007, 11:45:12 PM
Ah seems like the long road to loneyness begins here
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Eibborn on November 30, 2007, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: Alondro on November 30, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
But he has made one miscalculation.  What if May should contract an illness and die young?  What if she kills herself from the trauma she's just endured?  Then he has no more hold over Abel all of a sudden. 

Tsk tsk, villains never do think these things through very carefully.  That's why they end up getting beaten every time!   ;)

What, you think he's going to tell Abel? Or that maybe he's left a forwarding address?
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: WhiteFire on November 30, 2007, 11:55:06 PM
Quote from: Eibbor_N on November 30, 2007, 11:48:13 PM
What, you think he's going to tell Abel? Or that maybe he's left a forwarding address?

I have to agree. He has been basicly told if he goes back, May dies. May has no idea in hell where he is. In fact, while some other Creatures might GUESS where he ended up, they may not have any way of contacting him. So it could be years and years after May dies that he ever finds out.

Which... is an extra special level of suck for him.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Caswin on November 30, 2007, 11:56:23 PM
Quote from: Alondro on November 30, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
Ahem... 30 days hath September, April, June, and NOVEMBER.

Tomorrow is Dec 1. 
*Headdesk*
*Headdesk*
*Headdesk*

...maybe I'd make less mistakes like that if I stopped hitting my head against things.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Hellcat on December 01, 2007, 12:10:15 AM
the villains don't always lose... there are times when they win, and if not they get a half win. Its a nice change when that happens or you've just got a predictable boring story with no drama or darkness to it. With things like that, the villain becomes more recognizable and can be even liked by readers of those stories, otherwise its just a generic bad guy who will eventually get killed off and not missed. I know if Aniz never came back I'd miss him, he gave a good turn to the story and made it more interesting. Aniz is cool, but thats my opinion
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Zina on December 01, 2007, 12:14:01 AM
I admit I think Aniz's plan is a little flawed. I mean, May isn't going to live forever. Abel and Aniz will probably outlive her. So what happens when May eventually dies? Does Aniz have a plan B to keep Abel off his back?
Or maybe he's hoping Abel will just forgive and forget. It's worth a shot. :O
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Hellcat on December 01, 2007, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: Zina on December 01, 2007, 12:14:01 AM
. So what happens when May eventually dies? Does Aniz have a plan B to keep Abel off his back?

he could keep her in suspended animation... she may even be alive in the present due to this and maybe Abel doesnt know  :mwaha
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: rabid_fox on December 01, 2007, 12:48:36 AM

Heh. Paperwork. I appreciate that.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Sunblink on December 01, 2007, 01:11:27 AM
Quote from: Zina on December 01, 2007, 12:14:01 AM
I admit I think Aniz's plan is a little flawed. I mean, May isn't going to live forever. Abel and Aniz will probably outlive her. So what happens when May eventually dies? Does Aniz have a plan B to keep Abel off his back?
Or maybe he's hoping Abel will just forgive and forget. It's worth a shot. :O

I'm starting to think that it's not much of a forgive and forget situation as it is a "you'll see my side of things soon" one. He said to Abel in Page 103 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Abel_105.php) that "I'm sure in time things will make a lot more sense." Maybe Aniz thinks that Abel will have gotten over all the tragedies that had occurred to him by the time May's dead and will even empathize with him? It kind of seems like Aniz has a total disregard for Abel's emotions and attachments and just expects for him to "get over them."

It could be a "right now you hate me, but in time you'll actually thank me for this when you see my side of things" thing going on. But then again, I'm very sleep deprived, so my post is probably even more rife with grammar errors and logic deficiencies than usual. XD

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Naldru on December 01, 2007, 01:24:04 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on December 01, 2007, 12:48:36 AM

Heh. Paperwork. I appreciate that.
My guess would be that the paperwork is the application for admission to SAIA.

It has been mentioned that Aniz hasn't considered what will happen if May dies of natural causes.  I'm not sure about that.  The fact that May will die of old age within the next fifty years merely means that Abel knows that he can have revenge without harm to May if he waits a short (for a cubi) time. This means that relatively good behavior can be expected from Abel during his adjustment to life at SAIA.

Suppose that Aniz now adopted a new identity and went back to living with May, providing her with a sympathetic ear while she rants about how she was wronged by the evil Cid/Aniz.  He could even tell Abel about how May met "somebody else" who is making her happy.  I'm curious what the reaction of the forum residents would be about such a situation.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Zedd on December 01, 2007, 01:48:06 AM
"No pestilence has ever been so fatal,or so hideous... Blood was its Avatar and its seal- the redness and horror of blood..." -Edgar Allan Poe
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Sunblink on December 01, 2007, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: Zedd on December 01, 2007, 01:48:06 AM
"No pestilence has ever been so fatal,or so hideous... Blood was its Avatar and its seal- the redness and horror of blood..." -Edgar Allan Poe

Masque of the Red Death, I presume? My favorite story by Poe. I approve of the awesome Poe-quoting. <3 Apt, too.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Omega on December 01, 2007, 03:54:43 AM
I wonder...


Just how the cubi race reproduce? So far our only two examples have been a cubi makeing an ofspring with a being. Kinda like in some versions of werewulfs and vampires, where they can't make cups, so they'll have to bite people and turn them into one fo them in order to increase their numbers.
I mean, I bet the paperwork can be about shcool stuff, but what if in the cubi world they encourage you to make babies and you get a free toaster or a special "#1 DaD/MoM cup or something. Hence the paperwork and "See you around, except not".
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Hellcat on December 01, 2007, 05:03:39 AM
Quote from: Omega on December 01, 2007, 03:54:43 AM
I wonder...


Just how the cubi race reproduce? So far our only two examples have been a cubi makeing an ofspring with a being. Kinda like in some versions of werewulfs and vampires, where they can't make cups, so they'll have to bite people and turn them into one fo them in order to increase their numbers.
I mean, I bet the paperwork can be about shcool stuff, but what if in the cubi world they encourage you to make babies and you get a free toaster or a special "#1 DaD/MoM cup or something. Hence the paperwork and "See you around, except not".
I've been thinking of something like that for a little while, However two cubi may be able to reproduce together as evidenced by http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_489.php
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: computer nerd on December 01, 2007, 05:39:33 AM
I think Abel will try to get expelled from SAIA
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Goatmon on December 01, 2007, 06:29:50 AM
.......  :cry
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Tapewolf on December 01, 2007, 07:16:35 AM
Quote from: Omega on December 01, 2007, 03:54:43 AM
I wonder... just how the cubi race reproduce? So far our only two examples have been a cubi makeing an ofspring with a being. Kinda like in some versions of werewulfs and vampires, where they can't make cups, so they'll have to bite people and turn them into one fo them in order to increase their numbers.

Making cups... You've given me a wonderful mental image there.

Anyway, this has come up before, and Amber pointed out that Aary is a full-blood 'Cubi.  She has also said that when you have a union between two 'Cubi from different clans, the children will (normally?) be of the more powerful clan.

Quote from: Naldru on December 01, 2007, 01:24:04 AM
The fact that May will die of old age within the next fifty years merely means that Abel knows that he can have revenge without harm to May if he waits a short (for a cubi) time.
He knows less than Dan about the 'Cubi race right now, so I don't think he knows he's going to live for thousands of years yet.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Anri on December 01, 2007, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: Alondro on November 30, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
Ahem... 30 days hath September, April, June, and NOVEMBER.
But he has made one miscalculation.  What if May should contract an illness and die young?  What if she kills herself from the trauma she's just endured?  Then he has no more hold over Abel all of a sudden. 

So long as he can control where Abel is, such as SAIA, it doesn't matter if May is alive or not, as long as Abel thinks she is.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Tapewolf on December 01, 2007, 11:11:21 AM
I've just noticed the title on the main page.  UHF for the win.

**EDIT**
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Fuyudenki on December 01, 2007, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Omega on December 01, 2007, 03:54:43 AM
I wonder...


Just how the cubi race reproduce? So far our only two examples have been a cubi makeing an ofspring with a being. Kinda like in some versions of werewulfs and vampires, where they can't make cups, so they'll have to bite people and turn them into one fo them in order to increase their numbers.
I mean, I bet the paperwork can be about shcool stuff, but what if in the cubi world they encourage you to make babies and you get a free toaster or a special "#1 DaD/MoM cup or something. Hence the paperwork and "See you around, except not".

creative spelling, are we?  Fun times.  That's why I try not to post when it gets late.

Anyway, also don't forget the mythos (notably White Wolf's World of Darkness) where Werewolves do reproduce sexually, but one parent has to be human, or the pup will be stillborn, or in the case of WOD, a little monster that attempts to commit parenticide, which is why in World of Darkness, having sex with another werewolf is one of the graver sins a werewolf can commit.(I decided not to do this for my own story's universe.)

Now I wonder what the reproductive requirements for Amber's Weres are.  We know they don't transmit by disease.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Alondro on December 01, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
Quote from: WhiteFire on November 30, 2007, 11:55:06 PM
Quote from: Eibbor_N on November 30, 2007, 11:48:13 PM
What, you think he's going to tell Abel? Or that maybe he's left a forwarding address?

I have to agree. He has been basicly told if he goes back, May dies. May has no idea in hell where he is. In fact, while some other Creatures might GUESS where he ended up, they may not have any way of contacting him. So it could be years and years after May dies that he ever finds out.

Which... is an extra special level of suck for him.

Buuuuut, Abel is inevitably going to figure out that while he could live for millenia, his mom is a mortal Being and will likely die around a century of age if she's lucky.  Considering she's prolly in her 30's, that leaves about 70 years, during which time where I in his place, I'd perfect every Cubi battle technique I could in preparation for the horrific fate I'd be mentally crafting for my lying, scumbag father.

But then, Abel is much more sniveling than I am, and has hemophobia.  So, he'll prolly just break under the mental strain.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Tapewolf on December 01, 2007, 02:35:42 PM
Quote from: Alondro on December 01, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
Buuuuut, Abel is inevitably going to figure out that while he could live for millenia, his mom is a mortal Being and will likely die around a century of age if she's lucky.  Considering she's prolly in her 30's, that leaves about 70 years
Only if she gave birth to him when she was seven.

I'd say she's probably good until about 75 - IIRC Weres have slightly longer lives, but she probably isn't one.
I'd put her closer to 50 as her current age too.

**EDIT**
Slight correction: 'in her 30's' does go up to 39, which would make her 16 when Abel was born?
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Aleolus on December 01, 2007, 04:03:17 PM
Wow, I suddenly wonder if he's been in Saia this whole time sulking about his dad, and trying to plot 'revenge', or if he's just a mope.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Alondro on December 01, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on December 01, 2007, 04:03:17 PM
Wow, I suddenly wonder if he's been in Saia this whole time sulking about his dad, and trying to plot 'revenge', or if he's just a mope.

He's about 400 in the current storyline.  He's likely already had his revenge!   

And yeah, I do think I underestimated May's age.  It was just a quick guess, not taking into account Abel's actualy age.  He looks like he's still a kid here!  I'd say mid-40's is a more likely age.  Just means Aniz has even less time!
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Reese Tora on December 01, 2007, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: Alondro on November 30, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
Ahem... 30 days hath September, April, June, and NOVEMBER.

Tomorrow is Dec 1. 

:P
I prefer the knuckle method... january, pinky knuckle, 31 days, febuary, dip between pinky and ring, less than 31 days, March, ring knuckle, 31 days... july and august are both  index finger knuckles (on opposite hands) so are 31 days.

*thanks "101 things for kids to do" video he had as a kid*

Quote from: Alondro on November 30, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
But he has made one miscalculation.  What if May should contract an illness and die young?  What if she kills herself from the trauma she's just endured?  Then he has no more hold over Abel all of a sudden. 

Tsk tsk, villains never do think these things through very carefully.  That's why they end up getting beaten every time!   ;)

Assuming Able ever finds out... Aniz is leaving Able with a sort of twisted Schroedinger's cat box, where he can't know if May is alive or dead, but if he observes her state, she definently will be dead.

Given that there's atleast twenty more years of life in her baring accidents (and maybe as much as 60 or 70 years), I don't think Abel will even remember about getting his revenge unless he dwells on it and makes it his central thought for the intervening time.  In the case he does that, I don't think he'd care about May's life anymore anyway, atleast not until the concequences took her life.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Angel on December 01, 2007, 05:19:50 PM
Ahh. Nice and dramatic, that one was. I feel an odd sense of closure on Aniz's part, though I have no doubt he'll be coming back. And part of me wonders if we'll ever see May again in this comic - triggering his mom's death would explain Abel's downward spiral. (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_549.php) But somehow, I doubt he'd remember it with such flippancy if that were the case.

Okay, I'm losing my seriousness now. Good comic. And good luck to Abel.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on December 01, 2007, 05:19:50 PM
... would explain Abel's downward spiral. (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_549.php)

... am I the only one who starts hearing Closer in response to that?
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Tapewolf on December 01, 2007, 06:31:07 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
... am I the only one who starts hearing Closer in response to that?

No.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Reaver225 on December 01, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
Yeah, I'd have thought the threat of May's death would be a generally a short term solution, but we don't really know what else Aniz has planned. It's an evilly great first step in keeping Abel in line, however.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: kaskar on December 01, 2007, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Zedd on November 30, 2007, 11:45:12 PM
Ah seems like the long road to loneyness begins here

   8) And thus Abel's quirks start here ...
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 01, 2007, 10:47:27 PM
ant they will never meet again...until Amber draws the *pwn* Aniz story arc in DMFA. although I suppose Abel could get lucky and kill Aniz by accident... and there is still the possibility that the whole event was staged for Abel's benefit, you know the whole plot within a plot within a plot.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Naldru on December 02, 2007, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Reaver225 on December 01, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
Yeah, I'd have thought the threat of May's death would be a generally a short term solution, but we don't really know what else Aniz has planned. It's an evilly great first step in keeping Abel in line, however.

As I mentioned before
Quote from: Naldru on December 01, 2007, 01:24:04 AM
It has been mentioned that Aniz hasn't considered what will happen if May dies of natural causes.  I'm not sure about that.  The fact that May will die of old age within the next fifty years merely means that Abel knows that he can have revenge without harm to May if he waits a short (for a cubi) time. This means that relatively good behavior can be expected from Abel during his adjustment to life at SAIA.

Suppose that Aniz now adopted a new identity and went back to living with May, providing her with a sympathetic ear while she rants about how she was wronged by the evil Cid/Aniz.  He could even tell Abel about how May met "somebody else" who is making her happy.  I'm curious what the reaction of the forum residents would be about such a situation.

Nw suppose that Abel goes to May's funeral who has died of old age.  Now suppose that Abel goes over to Aniz in second disguise and says "I'm thankful to you for taking such good care of mother.  After dealing with my no-good, despicable, lying, uncaring, miserable father, it's nice to know that there are decent beings around."  To which Aniz in second disguise would reply with something to the effect "Well, there's something you really ought to know".  After which Aniz drops the disguise.  :erk :erk

That would further amplify Abel's dislike of cubi who create new identities with their shape-shifing.  At which point Abel agrees to return to the academy for another hundred years, after which he will return and pound Aniz into the ground like a tent peg.

And Aniz would have kept his word.  May would never have seen Aniz, only his second disguise.

Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Aleolus on December 02, 2007, 10:58:59 AM
Quote from: Naldru on December 02, 2007, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: Reaver225 on December 01, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
Yeah, I'd have thought the threat of May's death would be a generally a short term solution, but we don't really know what else Aniz has planned. It's an evilly great first step in keeping Abel in line, however.

As I mentioned before
Quote from: Naldru on December 01, 2007, 01:24:04 AM
It has been mentioned that Aniz hasn't considered what will happen if May dies of natural causes.  I'm not sure about that.  The fact that May will die of old age within the next fifty years merely means that Abel knows that he can have revenge without harm to May if he waits a short (for a cubi) time. This means that relatively good behavior can be expected from Abel during his adjustment to life at SAIA.

Suppose that Aniz now adopted a new identity and went back to living with May, providing her with a sympathetic ear while she rants about how she was wronged by the evil Cid/Aniz.  He could even tell Abel about how May met "somebody else" who is making her happy.  I'm curious what the reaction of the forum residents would be about such a situation.

Nw suppose that Abel goes to May's funeral who has died of old age.  Now suppose that Abel goes over to Aniz in second disguise and says "I'm thankful to you for taking such good care of mother.  After dealing with my no-good, despicable, lying, uncaring, miserable father, it's nice to know that there are decent beings around."  To which Aniz in second disguise would reply with something to the effect "Well, there's something you really ought to know".  After which Aniz drops the disguise.  :erk :erk

That would further amplify Abel's dislike of cubi who create new identities with their shape-shifing.  At which point Abel agrees to return to the academy for another hundred years, after which he will return and pound Aniz into the ground like a tent peg.

And Aniz would have kept his word.  May would never have seen Aniz, only his second disguise.

:erk :erk  Now that would be just cruel!  Amber!  Please tell us that Abel's clan does not have an affinity towards emotional pain, and that isn't Aniz's affinity either!
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: zopey on December 02, 2007, 03:13:42 PM
it would be cool if able had a sister
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 02, 2007, 03:50:29 PM
I could see an affinity towards masochism and confusion.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Naldru on December 02, 2007, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on December 02, 2007, 10:58:59 AM
:erk :erk  Now that would be just cruel!  Amber!  Please tell us that Abel's clan does not have an affinity towards emotional pain, and that isn't Aniz's affinity either!
Who would it be cruel to?  All May would know was that she had a loving friend to help her forget her miserable husband Aniz/Cid.  I don't think that it would necessarily be cruel to Abel, since he would probably be happy to find that Aniz had some interest in May's happiness.  It might be cruel to the readers, but the fourth wall is supposed to keep the characters from knowing about such things.

If you are arguing that such a plot twist would mess with the minds of the readers, I wouldn't mention it too loudly.  I think Amber wants to get a few more miles on her steam roller.

By the way, wasn't there a picture of Amber on a steam-roller.  If so, that would be a nice image to have among the various smileys, along with the hula-dancing plot twist.


Quote from: zopey on December 02, 2007, 03:13:42 PM
it would be cool if able had a sister
Some people have already pointed out that May is probably beyond child-bearing age.  Furthermore, it would be something of a tip-off if another kid with wings arrived.

Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: AndersW on December 02, 2007, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: Naldru on December 02, 2007, 04:01:49 PM
By the way, wasn't there a picture of Amber on a steam-roller.  If so, that would be a nice image to have among the various smileys, along with the hula-dancing plot twist.

I made something similar to that.

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6194/gankedjz1.jpg)

Try to guess where it is from.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 02, 2007, 07:21:49 PM
Easy. "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"

A classic.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Naldru on December 02, 2007, 07:23:54 PM
I thought I remembered something with Amber on a steamroller.  However, that one may be the one I saw.  My memory sometimes wanders and forgets to come home.
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: BlueTiger on December 02, 2007, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on December 01, 2007, 12:10:15 AM
the villains don't always lose... there are times when they win, and if not they get a half win. Its a nice change when that happens or you've just got a predictable boring story with no drama or darkness to it. With things like that, the villain becomes more recognizable and can be even liked by readers of those stories, otherwise its just a generic bad guy who will eventually get killed off and not missed. I know if Aniz never came back I'd miss him, he gave a good turn to the story and made it more interesting. Aniz is cool, but thats my opinion

Yeah, anyone around here like Dark Pegasus?
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Hellcat on December 02, 2007, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: BlueTiger on December 02, 2007, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on December 01, 2007, 12:10:15 AM
the villains don't always lose... there are times when they win, and if not they get a half win. Its a nice change when that happens or you've just got a predictable boring story with no drama or darkness to it. With things like that, the villain becomes more recognizable and can be even liked by readers of those stories, otherwise its just a generic bad guy who will eventually get killed off and not missed. I know if Aniz never came back I'd miss him, he gave a good turn to the story and made it more interesting. Aniz is cool, but thats my opinion

Yeah, anyone around here like Dark Pegasus?

DP didn't even get a half win 'cause he didn't get to kill anyone  :P
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 03, 2007, 11:06:48 AM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on December 02, 2007, 11:00:53 PM
DP didn't even get a half win 'cause he didn't get to kill anyone  :P

He got to kill Dan. He just wasn't very good at it...
Title: Re: 11/31/07 - Abel #108 - Never Meet Again
Post by: Caswin on December 03, 2007, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on December 02, 2007, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: BlueTiger on December 02, 2007, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on December 01, 2007, 12:10:15 AM
the villains don't always lose... there are times when they win, and if not they get a half win. Its a nice change when that happens or you've just got a predictable boring story with no drama or darkness to it. With things like that, the villain becomes more recognizable and can be even liked by readers of those stories, otherwise its just a generic bad guy who will eventually get killed off and not missed. I know if Aniz never came back I'd miss him, he gave a good turn to the story and made it more interesting. Aniz is cool, but thats my opinion
Yeah, anyone around here like Dark Pegasus?
DP didn't even get a half win 'cause he didn't get to kill anyone  :P
...on the other hand, he's really the only DMFA villain (taking "villain" to mean... something I don't think a lot of the comic's fans would agree on, given how many characters fall under it) I can think of who actually did lose in the end.  It's reached the point where a character getting what's coming to them is an exception to the rule.  If you're going to use the "predictable" tag, in that respect, at least, it has gotten predictable.

Also, the villain losing in the end doesn't signify, by any means, that the story isn't dark or dramatic.  I think that would throw the majority of stories that are generally counted as "dramatic" out the window.

And as long as I'm hitting every point...
Quote from: ??? (Hellcat) on December 01, 2007, 12:10:15 AMWith things like that, the villain becomes more recognizable and can be even liked by readers of those stories, otherwise its just a generic bad guy who will eventually get killed off and not missed.
Actually, I could name quite a few villains who lost in the end and were a good deal less generic - and MUCH more likable - than Aniz (although, in these last couple strips, he seems to have finally shown a little depth).  Most of them, unless I miss my guess, did not get killed off, either.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: zopey on December 03, 2007, 03:00:31 PM
the one thing i don't get was how Aniz was able to keep up the deception so long what with the cubi's attention spans. but i suppose when your life span goes into triple digits, 25 years must be like a week for him
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Paul on December 03, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on December 01, 2007, 05:19:50 PM
... would explain Abel's downward spiral. (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_549.php)
... am I the only one who starts hearing Closer in response to that?
Well, upon reading your post, I do. Frankly, it's rather disturbing.  :<
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 03, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Paul on December 03, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
... am I the only one who starts hearing Closer in response to that?
Well, upon reading your post, I do. Frankly, it's rather disturbing.  :<

Really? I'd never have guessed.


;-]
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: zopey on December 03, 2007, 04:04:11 PM
its a bit random but when i heard jyrass mum talking i imagine her talking in the vioce of lunar of bear in the big blue house
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Paul on December 03, 2007, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 03, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Paul on December 03, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 01, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
... am I the only one who starts hearing Closer in response to that?
Well, upon reading your post, I do. Frankly, it's rather disturbing.  :<
Really? I'd never have guessed.


;-]

I have this horrible mental image of Aniz singing the song's refrain to Abel. Ew.
Title: Re: 12/1/07 [Abel #108] - Never Meet Again
Post by: Ted Schiller on December 08, 2007, 11:47:23 AM
I'm tempted to start a thread labelled "Not the first post of Abel #109."   >:3

However, since Fa'Lina will be busy with paperwork, who will be first on the scene?  Will Dr. Ink "just happen to wander by" before Fa'Lina's official representative can arrive?

Mrs. Williams might consider the next two strips showing Abel just waiting, sitting in the corner hugging his knees.  This week he looks in one direction, the next looking in the other direction.  The tension rising.  The audience nervously waiting with Abel for the next horror.  Two weeks nervously waiting for the next horror.  But that would be evil, and Mrs. Williams wouldn't do that. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_062.php)

With regards,
Ted