Ok Amber hid some character profiles, has anyone had any luck finding them? I've clicked on almost everything on the site and no luck yet
what I would like is hints no all out maps to how to find them
what I wouldn't mind is knowing which profiles I'm looking for it would help in the search
Heh, I have found nothing, nothing! ;.; ..Or do we follow the white rabbit? ;) :bunny
I found all the character profiles! But I cannot tell you where they are, as I have been sworn to secrecy by the Nigerian consulate.
However, if you give me your bank accounts and credit card numbers and PINs, plus your Social Security #, I will be able to electronically transfer the information to your accounts!
>:]
Anyone posting them will be banned, unless they give $200 to my PayPal account :V
I blame RobbieThe1st. :nod
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 12, 2007, 09:47:46 AM
I blame RobbieThe1st. :nod
in consolation, here's another egg
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00499.jpg)
Quote from: Turnsky on November 12, 2007, 09:55:24 AM
in consolation, here's another egg
What we need is an easter egg, though. You can get those ones all year round.
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 09:22:50 AM
Anyone posting them will be banned, unless they give $200 to my PayPal account :V
... in which case -I'll- ban then for not also donating to my Paypal account. ;-]
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 09:57:07 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on November 12, 2007, 09:55:24 AM
in consolation, here's another egg
What we need is an easter egg, though. You can get those ones all year round.
not here you can't, only 'round easter time, and trust me, the cadbury factory for australia is in the south of the state.
Bah, I still haven't found them. Cursed pages! :< I'll have to go through the site to find 'em. Or something.
On an unrelated note, excellent work on the Egyptian Gals picture, Amber! Do I spy a black-backed jackal among the ladies? X3
Ah well. Off to search.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on November 12, 2007, 10:21:29 AM
Bah, I still haven't found them. Cursed pages! :< I'll have to go through the site to find 'em. Or something.
On an unrelated note, excellent work on the Egyptian Gals picture, Amber! Do I spy a black-backed jackal among the ladies? X3
Ah well. Off to search.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
i could tell you how, but it's incredibly convoluted, and you'd need an electron microscope, particle accelerator, a bag of pretzels, a stick of gum (mint), a shaved ferret, the hair of the wiku worm that bit you, a rubber band, the blueprints of the titanic & the hindenburg, a crate of gold bullion, the frozen body of walt disney, and a paperclip.
it'd prolly end up with you with a hefty bounty on your head, wanted in several countries by interpol, and a spot on "jerry springer".. but you'd have your answer, right? >:3
Psst, Keaton; blame Robbie. :paranoid
Turnsky: You forgot the Hindenkeaton. :B
Quote from: Turnsky on November 12, 2007, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 09:57:07 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on November 12, 2007, 09:55:24 AM
in consolation, here's another egg
What we need is an easter egg, though. You can get those ones all year round.
not here you can't, only 'round easter time, and trust me, the cadbury factory for australia is in the south of the state.
They have Christmas versions now |D
*Branches out search*
...NY on $10 a Day is dead D:
Quote from: Turnsky on November 12, 2007, 10:47:20 AMi could tell you how, but it's incredibly convoluted, and you'd need an electron microscope, particle accelerator, a bag of pretzels, a stick of gum (mint), a shaved ferret, the hair of the wiku worm that bit you, a rubber band, the blueprints of the titanic & the hindenburg, a crate of gold bullion, the frozen body of walt disney, and a paperclip.
it'd prolly end up with you with a hefty bounty on your head, wanted in several countries by interpol, and a spot on "jerry springer".. but you'd have your answer, right? >:3
After raiding every store in town and several museums, I've recovered a bag of pretzels, a stick of mint gum, a shaved ferret (after severe injuries to my body and personal trauma, but that's nothing a few online articles written by real-life ferret attack victims on Wikipedia and some therapy won't fix), and the blueprints to the titanic, which is the younger brother of the Titanic, as indicated by its lack of capitalization. I didn't find the blueprints to the Hindenburg, but I drew something which is hopefully at least somewhat similar using my crayons and a model of the Hindenkeaton. I already have Walt Disney's body; I've been ritualistically trying to resurrect him since I saw the previews for the Fox and the Hound sequel so that way he can go back over and reclaim his empire. It's amazing what you can find on Ebay nowadays.
I'm not really sure what this is going to accomplish, but at least I'm getting some exercise by running all over the country.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I don't think this has anything to do with the 'invisible' cast page but thought it might be either a hint or a bug.
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I see that in the top left corner of the screen just a litle over from the title. Thought it was pointing at something but it's not clickable nor is anything around it (except the title of course).
Frankly I think it looks like Kirby holding the gun from Portal.
Quote from: Netrogo on November 12, 2007, 11:54:04 AM
I don't think this has anything to do with the 'invisible' cast page but thought it might be either a hint or a bug.
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It's part of
<? echo("<img height=\"128\" width=\"149\" src=\"../Images/BannerL$tehnumber.gif\" border=\"0\" VSPACE=\"0\" HSPACE=\"0\">");?>From the rotating portrait banner at the top. Looks like it's been damaged.
Quote from: Netrogo on November 12, 2007, 11:54:04 AM
I don't think this has anything to do with the 'invisible' cast page but thought it might be either a hint or a bug.
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I see that in the top left corner of the screen just a litle over from the title. Thought it was pointing at something but it's not clickable nor is anything around it (except the title of course).
Frankly I think it looks like Kirby holding the gun from Portal.
...I was thinking everything you were thinking. Except I had no idea what he was holding.
*Comes across something else mildly interesting*
(http://www.missmab.com/Images/Banner_Nutmeg.jpg)
Guess he got his wish.
No luck with the secret pages, either. Scanned the site and most pages (asides from the entire archives) with no luck, so I guess I'll have to hope that they will appear at a more prominent spot later on.
you know what ... I am not going to look for the profiles >:3 I'll wait till mab puts them in the cast page ... its kinda like global warming =3 it takes time but it comes MWUAHAHAHHAHA *chokes while laughing*
I've found one, and right now I actually have my brother waiting to punch me if I start to type in any clues as to where they are.
*has been punched 4 times while typing this*
Why?! Why must I be a person who wants to help people?! 'A'
remember kids don't go outside without your genetic enhancer... this allows you to produce your own oxygen for a couple hours. common symptoms are dehydration bad gas and in less than rare cases cardiac arrest... if that doesn't work then feel free to pop a couple happy pills while you slowly choke and gag on your own carbon dioxide.
NY on a 10: http://www.inverteddungeon.com/nyona10/index.php
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 11:57:09 AM
Quote from: Netrogo on November 12, 2007, 11:54:04 AM
I don't think this has anything to do with the 'invisible' cast page but thought it might be either a hint or a bug.
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It's part of <? echo("<img height=\"128\" width=\"149\" src=\"../Images/BannerL$tehnumber.gif\" border=\"0\" VSPACE=\"0\" HSPACE=\"0\">");?>
From the rotating portrait banner at the top. Looks like it's been damaged.
Yah. It requires long php starter tags, not short ones - <?php instead of <?
We're on it.
WOO! After and hour or so of searching, I found one!
Use yer noodle, boys and gals. That's all I can say...
I've known where they both are since the beginning.
As if my maniacal laughter was not clue enough!
Nyaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa~
I've found two. There's a useful trick you can do in Firefox which I discovered by pure accident. Makes things a lot, lot simpler.
I know I'm not supposed to do this, but...
The secret cast pages are here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)
Quote from: Zina on November 12, 2007, 02:19:07 PM
I know I'm not supposed to do this, but...
The secret cast pages are here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)
INTENSE HATE!
Zina has been banned for showing the secret cast pages. :rolleyes
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 02:26:56 PM
Zina has been banned for showing the secret cast pages. :rolleyes
Out of morbid curiosity, what happens if Damaris accidentally bans herself? Does llearch have to go in and modifiy the system tables by hand?
*ughs at Zina* But clicking on that link is too much work... I want someone to click it for me. :B
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 02:26:56 PM
Zina has been banned for showing the secret cast pages. :rolleyes
But Bill.
I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around
and desert you. :C
Quote from: Zina on November 12, 2007, 02:29:23 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 02:26:56 PM
Zina has been banned for showing the secret cast pages. :rolleyes
But Bill.
I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around
and desert you. :C
Flattery will get you nowhere.
Bribery on the other hand... :mwaha
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 02:28:31 PM
Out of morbid curiosity, what happens if Damaris accidentally bans herself? Does llearch have to go in and modifiy the system tables by hand?
Any of the admins can unban as well as ban. So no.
I -can-, but there are easier ways around the issue.
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: Zina on November 12, 2007, 02:29:23 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 02:26:56 PM
Zina has been banned for showing the secret cast pages. :rolleyes
But Bill.
I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around
and desert you. :C
Flattery will get you nowhere.
Bribery on the other hand... :mwaha
I'll give you six Zina Fun Bucks.
Good at any Zina Fun Park. Where you will have the time of your life.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 12, 2007, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 02:28:31 PM
Out of morbid curiosity, what happens if Damaris accidentally bans herself? Does llearch have to go in and modifiy the system tables by hand?
Any of the admins can unban as well as ban. So no.
I -can-, but there are easier ways around the issue.
so I can't usurp power by banning every other mod/admin? :c
Quote from: Zina on November 12, 2007, 02:33:14 PM
I'll give you six Zina Fun Bucks.
Good at any Zina Fun Park. Where you will have the time of your life.
y thank u c:
Quote from: Zina on November 12, 2007, 02:33:14 PM
I'll give you six Zina Fun Bucks.
Good at any Zina Fun Park. Where you will have the time of your life.
That sounds a little weird...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 12, 2007, 02:31:56 PM
Any of the admins can unban as well as ban. So no.
Ah, I assumed the other admins would have a lower privilege level...
Not the way we do things.
Finally went around to dig out the two pages (*disables his hastily created Greasemonkey script again*), and I've got two things to say:
1) If I ever get around to properly resuming my fic, there will have to be several changes of the plot outline. (D'oh)
2) *GLEE* *ARTGASM*
Edit:
Since I've been digging around: The Demo101's Being page has a "Back to top" link that goes to the wrong page (GryphonB).
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 12, 2007, 02:33:22 PM
so I can't usurp power by banning every other mod/admin? :c
You can. Right up until I log in and fix the issue - if necessary, craft a sql script to auto-unban me first. ;-]
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 12, 2007, 02:31:56 PM
Any of the admins can unban as well as ban. So no.
Ah, I assumed the other admins would have a lower privilege level...
They do, but the bans are part of it. They can't shut down the forum as a whole for maintenance; other than that, permissions are more or less shared.
Some of us have focus on some bits, and some others. For example, D concentrates on the Lost Lake area and the Haunted Ballroom, RJ tends to watch the Tower of Art, and I do the underlying code, but we can all pinch-hit for each other, as it were.
Does that help?
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
To be perfectly honest, I was surprised you did. I had expected some weird hidden message spread out letter by letter in commented out parts of the HTML or some other chicanery.
About half an hour was wasted because I had this cuckoo idea that you'd inserted some kind of hint or link at the end of a bunch of spaces so it could only be seen if you scrolled the source code to the far right :B
Apparently
Groo The Wanderer had a secret message encoded in binary in the patterns of someone's cloak or something. My brother never got that issue so I never managed to verify it.
**EDIT**
And one of the pictures on my website has a message encoded in it which is only visible if you edit the palette since it's a GIF file with two black colours. Even I can't remember which picture it is though...
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 03:50:52 PM
To be perfectly honest, I was surprised you did. I had expected some weird hidden message spread out letter by letter in commented out parts of the HTML or some other chicanery.
Truthfully, I had wanted to keep it simple...and something that people later on might be able to uncover just by accident if they were wandering around. These weren't necessarily meant to be insanely difficult or requiring one to traverse seventeen pages to find them...which is probably why it is more insulting than anything to know people used scripts to find them.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
... that might have been me. Sorry. I -was- trying to limit it, but it didn't work. :-/ I -did- stop it as soon as I realised it had wandered off the way it wasn't supposed to. :-/
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
Truthfully, I had wanted to keep it simple...and something that people later on might be able to uncover just by accident if they were wandering around. These weren't necessarily meant to be insanely difficult or requiring one to traverse seventeen pages to find them...which is probably why it is more insulting than anything to know people used scripts to find them.
Erm, you didn't expect this to happen? You announced that two links were hidden somewhere, somehow. Your site has 1000+ pages, and without knowing what to look for, it's pure coincidence for somebody to notice the hidden links the first time through (I had actually started going through the archives and mousehovering over ALL the mow icons to see if one of them might be The Link... and before that, I hovered over all the links on the Downloads page to see if you had maybe changed the 800*600 link of the tenth wallpaper or something.) Heck, I browsed by the page(s) with the hidden link(s) at least three times without noticing them (then again, now I'm not sure there WERE any links since I might have browsed in that linkless window).
So people using tools to auto-mine for links was pretty much a natural reaction, all things considered (before you ask: No, not me, but mostly because I didn't have a GUI-based tool handy at the moment)
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
Normally I could care little if people are using particular means, but if they are going to be public about it and announce their intents to the point that I am able to spot it, then I'm going to react. In much the same way of my reaction to people pirating software, I don't care if people are doing it...but I don't want to hear about it.
If I'm actually able to figure out the means of which people are finding the pages, then you are doing it wrong. Cause really, I'm lazy and not all that bright. It's only when people get show-off and chatty that I get any indicator. :U
I'm so enraged by this i can only find one and the other is killing me slowly :cry
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
Yeah, okay, that may be pushing it :animesweat
scripts? whut?
darn you, firefox users!
Actually, I'm at work, and don't have the time to go looking... (nor the disipline or patience to follow through if I did...) so I'm going to wait until someone slips up or they get posted normally...
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I just found both using ye olde-fashioned scan-it-with-your-eyes method. That second one was real tricky; it had me looking in the source codes for a while, but I eventually found it (6 hours or so after the first :U) without.
Quote from: modelincard on November 12, 2007, 04:40:58 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I just found both using ye olde-fashioned scan-it-with-your-eyes method. That second one was real tricky; it had me looking in the source codes for a while, but I eventually found it (6 hours or so after the first :U) without.
I did that, too. Took forever. XD
But the frustration makes the find so much more rewarding, don't you think? :3
I got it because someone posted it in the admin board :U
AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
*Goes insane because he hasn't found one.*
Quote from: CameronCN on November 12, 2007, 04:56:27 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
*Goes insane because he hasn't found one.*
second'd
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
Normally I could care little if people are using particular means, but if they are going to be public about it and announce their intents to the point that I am able to spot it, then I'm going to react. In much the same way of my reaction to people pirating software, I don't care if people are doing it...but I don't want to hear about it.
If I'm actually able to figure out the means of which people are finding the pages, then you are doing it wrong. Cause really, I'm lazy and not all that bright. It's only when people get show-off and chatty that I get any indicator. :U
Actually I was using Opera. One of the features it's had for... I think a couple of years now... is a function that shows all of the links on a page. As far as I know FireFox has nothing like that, so in my view, people who were using FireFox scripts were overworking themselves :mowtongue
Quote from: je.saist on November 12, 2007, 05:05:05 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
Normally I could care little if people are using particular means, but if they are going to be public about it and announce their intents to the point that I am able to spot it, then I'm going to react. In much the same way of my reaction to people pirating software, I don't care if people are doing it...but I don't want to hear about it.
If I'm actually able to figure out the means of which people are finding the pages, then you are doing it wrong. Cause really, I'm lazy and not all that bright. It's only when people get show-off and chatty that I get any indicator. :U
Actually I was using Opera. One of the features it's had for... I think a couple of years now... is a function that shows all of the links on a page. As far as I know FireFox has nothing like that, so in my view, people who were using FireFox scripts were overworking themselves :mowtongue
It does, but it takes a couple of clicks to get to it, so it's not practical to go through the whole website using it. :B
*keeps on pussing every light orange button that is on the site* :eager curse you Amber, CURSE you straight to hell ... must find damn cast links grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *keeps on pushing* :U GET OUT OFF MY HEAD
(edit)
GOD YES YES I FOUND ONE *does the very happy dance* and I ain't telling let other people be tormented to
Quote from: CameronCN on November 12, 2007, 05:09:17 PM
It does, but it takes a couple of clicks to get to it, so it's not practical to go through the whole website using it. :B
You must be doing it wrong. It took two keypresses here :3
Either that or it's some weird apple-specific thing...
**EDIT**
Sorry, two keypresses and a click.
ok i feel better now i found the other one
*has foam around my mouth* me found them ..... hehehehehe me found them *is dragged away by men in white*
I still blame Robbie.
*Waving/pointing finger at computer* I got you, I got you...!
[/Jumpin' Jack Flash]
Quote from: Caswin on November 12, 2007, 05:28:59 PM
*Waving/pointing finger at computer* I got you, I got you...!
[/Jumpin' Jack Flash]
great film, need to watch that soon.
b flat.
Always the way, if your looking for it its hard to find, if your not looking for any more you'll probably trip over it.
Oh and firefox does have a feature that list links off a page, hasn't helped me yet. Well I'm not going to get obsessed or worked up about it. Still a nice idea though.
Edit: Nobody posts for ages and then four people post while I'm trying to, what's up with that?
Only one of the links work in internet explorer. I had to type the other in manually to access the secret pages...
EDIT: Ok, now, when I go back to double-check, they work fine! D'oh!
Yay I found one =D
I'll give you guys a hint too: don't try randomly guessing urls, and the tab button is your friend =D
I'm going to be honest here, I've been searching ol natural, but I've come to learn I suck! So, I'm going to put my keyboard in a room with a thousand ferrets and odds are in a day they will have accidentally clicked the right button.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
If I'd been awake at the time, I would have slapped down any and all said perpetrator(s). "Don't discuss" means don't discuss. End of Subject.
(having reviewed the logs and discovered it -wasn't- me... being some 3-4 hours prior to me starting looking)
*Charles finds one!* Whoo-hoo!
*Charline giggles as she has rigged his computer to show a fake link!* :giggle
*Charles gasps!* It... it's ME!!! :U
*Charline grins as he reads down and learns how he's going to die!* >:3
*Charles EEK!!!* NOES!!! Not like that! Oh the humanity! D:
NOTE: I did actually find one! But I have to give up on the second. Just too much lab work to do all night long. :P
hey when will we see them not hidden :3
wait was the horrifying music video there before or after Zina was banned?
I've been searching for hours the old fashion way, and i'm too stupid to know how to do "scans" or whatever, even though I have firefox. All I know is if i don't find a page soon I WILL cry :U :cry :mowsad
ARGH! This second one is driving me even more insane!
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on November 12, 2007, 07:42:43 PM
ARGH! This second one is driving me even more insane!
I CAN'T EVEN FIND
ONE
Reading through this thread, all the hints you need are right here.
Took a total of about five minutes since I missed the first one the first time. Second one was a tiny bit harder to find, but was exactly where I thought it'd be after I thought about it.
technically all the missing character profiles would be on mabsland...with characters that haven't been integrated, or exist only as part of a parallel DMFA reality in amber's mind. although it would take considerably less effort for her to incorporate them into the cannon series.
*throws paws in the air*
You win, Amber. I'm not smart enough to know doodly about scripts or any of that stuff...and doing the honest thing has just burned a hole in my skull....
So, you win!
*the tiger flees from the computer yelling something about Tijuana....*
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
the Mark One Eyeball is the only tool honest people need. *nods*
Damaris's Super Secret Method of Finding Hidden Webpages:
1) Ask Darkmoon to log into Amber's FTP
2) Have him look for pages he does not recognize
3) Have him read them off, and type them in.
4) Read
5) Mock forumers.
:mwaha
That is, point for point, exactly what she did.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 03:50:52 PM
To be perfectly honest, I was surprised you did. I had expected some weird hidden message spread out letter by letter in commented out parts of the HTML or some other chicanery.
Truthfully, I had wanted to keep it simple...and something that people later on might be able to uncover just by accident if they were wandering around. These weren't necessarily meant to be insanely difficult or requiring one to traverse seventeen pages to find them...which is probably why it is more insulting than anything to know people used scripts to find them.
what if you figure out things on your own, for instance, I already figured out the plot twist before the page 839 was uploaded... the comic only confirmed my suspicion.
I found one! I FOUND ONE! Oh my god. I never thought this could happen to me. I'd like to thank the Academy...
I feel dumb I can't find any
*pouts*
Quote from: Sajoli on November 12, 2007, 09:24:54 PM
I'd like to thank the Academy...
It's quite obvious once I actually found them both.
Ah Amber you never stop with your amazement...Coy yet lovely...*tosses her into the bishi play pit*
Quote from: Turnsky on November 12, 2007, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
the Mark One Eyeball is the only tool honest people need. *nods*
If you really want to be nasty, have the links created dynamically using Javascript and DOM (Domain Object Model) with the Javascript contained in an external file.
Another approach would be to intercept keystrokes and only have the link appear if the user types in "Amber is Great".
I actually use a very simple procedure.
1. Look
2. If I find it, scream out loud in pure joy. If not, go back to step 1 and look some more.
By the way, I found two links but I also found a link pointing to the wrong page.
Quote from: computer nerd on November 12, 2007, 06:49:35 PM
hey when will we see them not hidden :3
Probably never. They are secret pages for a reason. :U
I should point out, that there isn't any harm if a person wanted to PM another forum member the information, or someone simply asking someone who knows. While half the gimmick is trying to scout out the pages, another half can sometimes just be sharing a secret with a friend.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: computer nerd on November 12, 2007, 06:49:35 PM
hey when will we see them not hidden :3
Probably never. They are secret pages for a reason. :U
I should point out, that there isn't any harm if a person wanted to PM another forum member the information, or someone simply asking someone who knows. While half the gimmick is trying to scout out the pages, another half can sometimes just be sharing a secret with a friend.
Truer words have never been said Amber...And how did you get out the Bishi fun pit? >:3
I dunno if I can say what 'tool' I used to find the first page...
It's really popular and people will tell you to use it if you don't know about something.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: computer nerd on November 12, 2007, 06:49:35 PM
hey when will we see them not hidden :3
Probably never. They are secret pages for a reason. :U
What?!? I was gonna wait until they were made legitimate!
DAMN!
Ok, I'll wait until they are added to the Wiku-Wiki. If these pages are genuine information, it's gotta be put up there sometime.
there are secret pages?
No, really, there are secret pages?
(that should help anyone who can't find either of them. This thread's appearance was the first I heard of it.)
hmm... between being lazy, having better things to do than waste apparently 6 hours scouring 1000+ pages for one or two links, and knowing for fact that I SUCK at these kinds of puzzles(yeah, OK, the hints are all in this thread. That doesn't help!), and because Amber has said it's OK, I'm going to ask for the links to be PM'd to me.
Anyone? Anyone feel like being nice? I won't share them, promise.
[edit]
wow, that was fast. Thanks, [no, you can't know who sent it to me].
hmm, I wonder if posting my initial reaction, vague as it would be, would be a bad thing.
Better safe than sorry.
I've no idea how to find the second one, but I'm guessing it might be Mab's daughter. XD
Could someone please spoil it for me too? ;)
EDIT: Thanks. :bunny
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: computer nerd on November 12, 2007, 06:49:35 PM
hey when will we see them not hidden :3
Probably never. They are secret pages for a reason. :U
Really? So we can -never- reveal what's hidden in them?
I guess we'll have to watch our tongues, then, and make sure not to slip...
I've been searching for 6 hours (not and exaggeration) does someone feel nice and care to pm me where one of the pages is, I'd be extremely happy with just one! :U Or even a someone obvious hint, or something to narrow my search, anything, please? I won't tell a soul!
I've created a monster.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on November 13, 2007, 12:00:09 AM
Really? So we can -never- reveal what's hidden in them?
I guess we'll have to watch our tongues, then, and make sure not to slip...
Well it's really more or less how cautious you want to be. One problem with revealing the information on the pages is that if people ask for validation or where you got that from, you are now in a tight spot.
Now, odds are if/when information on them becomes known in main DMFA canon, they will be more than likely free to discuss here. And odds are at some point the pages themselves might de-secretize a couple years from now and go to the main cast page. However, as long as the stuff in the pages contain secrets and spoilers in regards to the comic, they are things that shouldn't be discussed on the forum. Thats the price of having secret pages.
I've found them. I used a magic key on my mystical mythical surf board that was magically adjusted to find things according to my mental image of what I want found by the powers of Greyskull as a reward for defeating the magic soccer ball ninja golem of the nineteenth dimension..
But wait that would mean I knew what I did not know, but I didn't know.. so the seagull quacks at the pancake and.... *head explodes resulting in no further information*
Quote from: Valynth on November 13, 2007, 12:52:33 AM
I've found them. I used a magic key on my mystical mythical surf board that was magically adjusted to find things according to my mental image of what I want found by the powers of Greyskull as a reward for defeating the magic soccer ball ninja golem of the nineteenth dimension..
But wait that would mean I knew what I did not know, but I didn't know.. so the seagull quacks at the pancake and.... *head explodes resulting in no further information*
wait, Great Cthulu's in the comic?
*goes to check*
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on November 13, 2007, 12:00:09 AM
Really? So we can -never- reveal what's hidden in them?
I guess we'll have to watch our tongues, then, and make sure not to slip...
Well it's really more or less how cautious you want to be. One problem with revealing the information on the pages is that if people ask for validation or where you got that from, you are now in a tight spot.
Now, odds are if/when information on them becomes known in main DMFA canon, they will be more than likely free to discuss here. And odds are at some point the pages themselves might de-secretize a couple years from now and go to the main cast page. However, as long as the stuff in the pages contain secrets and spoilers in regards to the comic, they are things that shouldn't be discussed on the forum. Thats the price of having secret pages.
since i've found 'em, chances are i'll forget what's in 'em. >.> i keep secrets like that.. i forget 'em.. <.< :U
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 02:14:38 PM
I've found two. There's a useful trick you can do in Firefox which I discovered by pure accident. Makes things a lot, lot simpler.
Yup, and according to the rant, there are only two(I think...).
Shh! Don't let people know about that trick! When I found one using something like that...
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 12, 2007, 09:47:46 AM
I blame RobbieThe1st. :nod
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Well, lets just say thats why I should be blamed. ;)
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on November 12, 2007, 01:40:08 PM
I've known where they both are since the beginning.
As if my maniacal laughter was not clue enough!
Nyaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa~
Its all Janus' fault! Blame him! :3
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Yes! I am (in)famous!
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
Of course, that wouldn't work, as anyone who could code(which, looking at the technology-savvy crew here, means probably 50%) would end up creating some sort of brute-force page finder, which is horribly wasteful bandwidth wise, and very slow.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
To be perfectly honest, I was surprised you did. I had expected some weird hidden message spread out letter by letter in commented out parts of the HTML or some other chicanery.
About half an hour was wasted because I had this cuckoo idea that you'd inserted some kind of hint or link at the end of a bunch of spaces so it could only be seen if you scrolled the source code to the far right :B
Apparently Groo The Wanderer had a secret message encoded in binary in the patterns of someone's cloak or something. My brother never got that issue so I never managed to verify it.
**EDIT**
And one of the pictures on my website has a message encoded in it which is only visible if you edit the palette since it's a GIF file with two black colours. Even I can't remember which picture it is though...
Well, I am going to have to download all your .GIF files and run it through a script. :rolleyes
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 12, 2007, 03:50:52 PM
To be perfectly honest, I was surprised you did. I had expected some weird hidden message spread out letter by letter in commented out parts of the HTML or some other chicanery.
Truthfully, I had wanted to keep it simple...and something that people later on might be able to uncover just by accident if they were wandering around. These weren't necessarily meant to be insanely difficult or requiring one to traverse seventeen pages to find them...which is probably why it is more insulting than anything to know people used scripts to find them.
Well, I spent more time looking for them *with* the view-links trick than I would have by just looking normally most likely. I hope your happy! :cry
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
Normally I could care little if people are using particular means, but if they are going to be public about it and announce their intents to the point that I am able to spot it, then I'm going to react. In much the same way of my reaction to people pirating software, I don't care if people are doing it...but I don't want to hear about it.
If I'm actually able to figure out the means of which people are finding the pages, then you are doing it wrong. Cause really, I'm lazy and not all that bright. It's only when people get show-off and chatty that I get any indicator. :U
Well, I didn't even known about the link-hunt until Janus told us in the unofficial IRC, as well as approximately where they are - I have logs! >:3
Well, next time I suppose I shouldn't say anything around Janus about what cool trick I used to find it.
Ya know, just say 'Find this by hand, don't bother using scripts to cheat.' - that would help. Of course, a few people will still use tools/scripts, but well, it will help.
Quote from: je.saist on November 12, 2007, 05:05:05 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
Using tools? Yes. Promoting said tools and apparently using the unnoffical chat as a base of operations? No.
Normally I could care little if people are using particular means, but if they are going to be public about it and announce their intents to the point that I am able to spot it, then I'm going to react. In much the same way of my reaction to people pirating software, I don't care if people are doing it...but I don't want to hear about it.
If I'm actually able to figure out the means of which people are finding the pages, then you are doing it wrong. Cause really, I'm lazy and not all that bright. It's only when people get show-off and chatty that I get any indicator. :U
Actually I was using Opera. One of the features it's had for... I think a couple of years now... is a function that shows all of the links on a page. As far as I know FireFox has nothing like that, so in my view, people who were using FireFox scripts were overworking themselves :mowtongue
It has the same thing - thats what Tape and I(more or less) did.
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 12, 2007, 05:25:32 PM
I still blame Robbie.
:<
Quote from: Damaris on November 12, 2007, 09:06:53 PM
Damaris's Super Secret Method of Finding Hidden Webpages:
1) Ask Darkmoon to log into Amber's FTP
2) Have him look for pages he does not recognize
3) Have him read them off, and type them in.
4) Read
5) Mock forumers.
:mwaha
:P Good idea!
Quote from: Naldru on November 12, 2007, 10:20:55 PM
If you really want to be nasty, have the links created dynamically using Javascript and DOM (Domain Object Model) with the Javascript contained in an external file.
Another approach would be to intercept keystrokes and only have the link appear if the user types in "Amber is Great".
-way- overused! It has been used so many times that there are plenty of Firefox extensions out there for viewing external JavaScript.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on November 13, 2007, 12:00:09 AM
Really? So we can -never- reveal what's hidden in them?
I guess we'll have to watch our tongues, then, and make sure not to slip...
Well it's really more or less how cautious you want to be. One problem with revealing the information on the pages is that if people ask for validation or where you got that from, you are now in a tight spot.
Now, odds are if/when information on them becomes known in main DMFA canon, they will be more than likely free to discuss here. And odds are at some point the pages themselves might de-secretize a couple years from now and go to the main cast page. However, as long as the stuff in the pages contain secrets and spoilers in regards to the comic, they are things that shouldn't be discussed on the forum. Thats the price of having secret pages.
Hm, SMF supports passworded forums, right?
Why don't you create a forum for discussing hidden info which has a password you would only know if you found the page, perhaps the name of the page, or, like in old games, something like "line 5, word 30". This way we would be free to talk about it and no one who had not read the page would be viewing this forum.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
Doh. I poked around last night, but to no avail. I guess they'd been taken down already. :animesweat I eventually stumbled across one of them after they'd been reinstated. I suppose I'll come across the other in due time. With a filename like that, I don't see how anyone could be expected to come up with it based on randomly typing URLs... :B
(I'll admit that I did
consider spidering the site, though... I might actually get around to doing that sometime anyway for archive purposes. But I'll remember not to do it after secret files are announced... wouldn't want to ruin it for everyone else. :3)
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on November 13, 2007, 12:00:09 AM
Really? So we can -never- reveal what's hidden in them?
I guess we'll have to watch our tongues, then, and make sure not to slip...
Well it's really more or less how cautious you want to be. One problem with revealing the information on the pages is that if people ask for validation or where you got that from, you are now in a tight spot.
Hmm... I guess we'll have to be extra careful with our wiki speculation now, too... :dface
(Tapewolf and I had competing theories about the person whose secret page I found. Turns out he had it right... but is now barred from talking about it. >:])
Welp, I've done every possible thing my miniscule mind can concieve.
*wipes hands clean with accomplishment*
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 13, 2007, 01:17:23 AM
Ya know, just say 'Find this by hand, don't bother using scripts to cheat.' - that would help. Of course, a few people will still use tools/scripts, but well, it will help.
If I actually have to tell people that, it sort of defeats the point doesn't it? If your first impulse is to bust out the quick-cheat solution, me saying "hay guys. Plz dont" isn't likely going to really impact.
QuoteHm, SMF supports passworded forums, right?
Why don't you create a forum for discussing hidden info which has a password you would only know if you found the page, perhaps the name of the page, or, like in old games, something like "line 5, word 30". This way we would be free to talk about it and no one who had not read the page would be viewing this forum.
I'm not going to create a hidden forum just so people can talk about 2 cast pages. That is wasteful.
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 13, 2007, 01:17:23 AM
Yup, and according to the rant, there are only two(I think...).
At the time. Next time I add something, I doubt I'll even be making a notice on the rant box about them.
Aie, I give up, can somebody PM me the location of the links please? :(
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on November 12, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
wait was the horrifying music video there before or after Zina was banned?
It was there before I was banned from the forums forever.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 01:38:02 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 13, 2007, 01:17:23 AM
Ya know, just say 'Find this by hand, don't bother using scripts to cheat.' - that would help. Of course, a few people will still use tools/scripts, but well, it will help.
If I actually have to tell people that, it sort of defeats the point doesn't it? If your first impulse is to bust out the quick-cheat solution, me saying "hay guys. Plz dont" isn't likely going to really impact.
Perhaps... I just figure that it couldn't hurt.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 01:38:02 AM
QuoteHm, SMF supports passworded forums, right?
Why don't you create a forum for discussing hidden info which has a password you would only know if you found the page, perhaps the name of the page, or, like in old games, something like "line 5, word 30". This way we would be free to talk about it and no one who had not read the page would be viewing this forum.
I'm not going to create a hidden forum just so people can talk about 2 cast pages. That is wasteful.
Well, that is, until you create more.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 01:38:02 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 13, 2007, 01:17:23 AM
Yup, and according to the rant, there are only two(I think...).
At the time. Next time I add something, I doubt I'll even be making a notice on the rant box about them.
Well, I am going to have to keep my eyes open then...
-RobbieThe1st
I'm hopeless at guessing/finding games... Lucky me, I gots the cheat sheets. :P
Curse you RJ, curse youuuu~!!!
You've watched Shippuuden!
oh yeah... and you have scripts *shakes fist*
Can I beg someone for the link? :mowsad I'm new to the forum, but not the comic, but I do so suck at finding hidden things... and I'm even worse with hints >_> <_< I've been looking for like... a few hours now and haven't found a single thing...
These profiles will eventually become available as soon as they have no spoilers, right?
Finally found both of them it took a long time though,im proud of myself now.
Could I receive them as well? I really really don't have enough patience or a long enough attention span to find things.
/me sighs*
Quote from: dannysaysnoo on November 13, 2007, 02:56:20 AM
These profiles will eventually become available as soon as they have no spoilers, right?
Probably. But that is probably a good 2+ years from happening considering the update rate DMFA has. :>
I'm tickled Pink that I found one :boogie , now that I have a idea what to look for hopefully the second will be easier
>_< I seem to fail rather hard at finding these things. I know I'm new to the forum and all, but could someone at least drop a (really obvious) hint?
I can't keep it a secret anymore. THE PRESSURE IS TOOOOOO MUCH!!!11!!1
They are hidden at ... *a loud bang is heard and me drops dead to the ground*
*a few miles further Fluffy sits in a fishing chair, wearing a cowboyhat, having a sigar in her mouth and holds a smoking sniper rivel*
Quote from: Lorien on November 13, 2007, 04:20:05 AM
>_< I seem to fail rather hard at finding these things. I know I'm new to the forum and all, but could someone at least drop a (really obvious) hint?
I'm afraid they're protected under an
NDA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement).
However, as others have pointed out, HTML debugging tools are very useful to find them.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 13, 2007, 05:00:55 AM
Quote from: Lorien on November 13, 2007, 04:20:05 AM
>_< I seem to fail rather hard at finding these things. I know I'm new to the forum and all, but could someone at least drop a (really obvious) hint?
I'm afraid they're protected under an NDA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement).
However, as others have pointed out, HTML debugging tools are very useful to find them.
More like a NPA(No-Posting Agreement):
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
I should point out, that there isn't any harm if a person wanted to PM another forum member the information, or someone simply asking someone who knows. While half the gimmick is trying to scout out the pages, another half can sometimes just be sharing a secret with a friend.
:P
P.S. Completely unrelated but, Tapewolf, you should come into the unholy unofficial (un)irc one of these days.
*gets banned for mentioning The Thing That Shall Not Be Mentioned*
-RobbieThe1st
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 13, 2007, 05:15:21 AM
P.S. Completely unrelated but, Tapewolf, you should come into the unholy unofficial (un)irc one of these days.
It took up courage to try and when I did there was no-one there. I'll have to remember to try again. Assuming I was on the right one, of course, since there seem to be several.
there is only one.
PM llearch if you need the connection information. (Just don't PM Amber about it... she WILL have Fluffy snipe you)
Quote from: je.saist on November 13, 2007, 06:23:09 AM
PM llearch if you need the connection information. (Just don't PM Amber about it... she WILL have Fluffy snipe you)
Someone else has just sent it. (And I would never dream of plaguing Amber with trivia like that)
Would I get banned if I post links to some comic hints, like 730?
Damaris says "yes"
Meh, I'm too tired after spending a whole night dissecting things. I'm just going to assume the second one is about Charline and she'll be taking over Furrae as Ultra Mega Super Cubi with Quinti Wings. It makes me happy. :boogie
Heh... already we have several new users joining up just to beg for links. You've created a monster, Mab! :mowtongue
Quote from: LoneHowler on November 13, 2007, 04:08:29 AM
I'm tickled Pink that I found one :boogie , now that I have a idea what to look for hopefully the second will be easier
Probably. They're both "hidden" in similar ways. I found the second page shortly after I posted about finding the first one.
There aren't all that many DMFA characters who lack profiles on the cast page. Try to guess who they might be and then explore existing pages that might relate to them. Tabbing through all the links on a page to look for ones that don't belong might help, too.
:mowcookie
Quote from: Alondro on November 13, 2007, 07:25:03 AM
Meh, I'm too tired after spending a whole night dissecting things. I'm just going to assume the second one is about Charline and she'll be taking over Furrae as Ultra Mega Super Cubi with Quinti Wings. It makes me happy. :boogie
Dare I ask what the other two sets of wings are protruding from? >:]
Quote from: Alondro on November 13, 2007, 07:25:03 AM
Meh, I'm too tired after spending a whole night dissecting things. I'm just going to assume the second one is about Charline and she'll be taking over Furrae as Ultra Mega Super Cubi with Quinti Wings. It makes me happy. :boogie
it's really about the Foxfire/DMFA crossover that's being planned, Cubi/Thae'lith hybrids ahoy! >:3
Quote from: Joe3210 on November 13, 2007, 07:01:00 AM
Would I get banned if I post links to some comic hints, like 730?
Probably not, but I wouldn't want to push it. ;-]
Ha! I finally found one, and I have to say that the portraits look excellent. Plus the information's quite juicy... >:3 I find it a shame we can't discuss it here, but oh well. If some moron ends up spoiling it for everyone else I'm going to clock 'em, though.
So I laugh in the face of those who haven't found them, although I hypocritically had only found mine with the assistance of someone else. SO HA.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I am incredibly curious about these pages, but like a few others, I really don't have the time to just sit and look around for them. :( Would someone please PM me about them?
HAHA! After agonizing over it for a while last night, and much clicking today, I found numero uno! >:3 That was actually pretty clever, Amber.
I was kind of wondering about any way of discussing these pages. I want to talk about why I just downloaded "Xerxes' Final Offer," dangit.
Quote from: Talonr on November 13, 2007, 08:51:47 AM
I am incredibly curious about these pages, but like a few others, I really don't have the time to just sit and look around for them. :( Would someone please PM me about them?
Done.
Edit:
Done Breta, too.
Ooh, I feel horrible having to register to ask for help with this. :< But I've 'tab'ed through most of, if not all of the pages and not found a single thing. A little help would be appreciated.
I'll make up for it by drawing a picture for whoever wants to spare a moment.
Woah, the kirby is cute... :kirby
Err, anyway now that I'm not completely off-topic, I managed to find one link, but I'm having some trouble finding the other, and I really don't have the time to continue searching. Could somebody who's found them both please send me the location in a PM? I don't want just the link because I want to see what Amber has come up with for the second one. (That's code for I want to know why I FAIL at finding it!!!)
I think I like checking out these forums. I just might be around more often. :mowhappy
Bon: wlecome to lost lake would you like to know thy future
Gabe: Yeah, I seek knowledge of where Abe's chronicle is going, so that I know everything and is there any way to get a hold of the next three DMFA strips and character profiles?
Bon:Ok, well Abel is now at Saia and can look forward to a wonderful life of doom, and at some point in the future Fa'lina's mothering instinct will kick in...Cid will still be an asshole and there will be blood and pain, and um... while I'm fuzzy on the details for DMFA I can see a scene change is in the works, imagas of matilda keep peeking into my brain... and darkmoon will huff a kitten and it was his and Katrina's love spawn,er child...whoops wrong reality, no refunds.
Can someone PM some clues? Please? This is driving me nuts. Walnuts to be precise. 0.o
The best way to get as many new members in a short amount of time, ever. Whether or not that's a good thing is still up for debate. :B
Heh, I was planning on looking at you guys anyway actually. I just hadn't found the time. I'm a WoW addict and a college student at a rather difficult school among other things, so time is not something that comes easily. So... this just kind of sped up the process. Or maybe it did cause it to happen, maybe it was one of those "going to" things that never ends up getting done. Hrmm... Ah well. Cookie? :mowcookie
Uhh, I just noticed karma. What in the world is it in relation to the forums?
Dracora and Zock, your mail is on the way.
llearch, my brain-nut thanks you. :3
It's surely not that hard, is it? If one knows how to make web pages from scratch (using a basic editor) it shouldn't take that long...
I genuflect before llearch for help, as I too have gone through the site and found nothing.
Edit:
Replied. What, you want me to post a whole new post just for this? :-P
-- llearch
Sorry to be a n00B and ask, but...
I found the first link (it was awesome :-D) but I can't find the second D-: a small clue, perhaps? The species of the character that I'm looking for, or the colour of their eyes, or something?? Searching for it is driving me insane...
EDIT: Links were PM'd to me :-3 thank you!
I feel like a bit of a geek wad for signing up to ask, but in my defense, I've been meaning to sign up for some time, just didn't have the courage. So, I found the first secret cast page (and was VERY happy with it, gorgeous, very informative as well) but the next one is eluding me. (If I spelled that wrong, feel free to smack me.) Found the first with simple guesstimation and a good memory, but I doubt that'll help me this time around. Please help? Thank you!
(I really, really love this emoticon --> :ipod )
Quote from: RogerFromOz on November 13, 2007, 02:57:32 PM
So, I found the first secret cast page (and was VERY happy with it, gorgeous, very informative as well) but the next one is eluding me.
If you found one, you'll know what to look for with the second. You should try broadening your search, though.
Dude, agreed with PMing me with some info. I did find one, but the other is eluding me, and it's gotten so bad that I was dreaming about it last night. ;.;
Edit: Done. -- llearch
after trudging through the archives, inspecting every link to find something fishy, i found nothing.
I need a hint, even a Phoenix oracle type one!
Edit:
Done. -- llearch
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 13, 2007, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: RogerFromOz on November 13, 2007, 02:57:32 PM
So, I found the first secret cast page (and was VERY happy with it, gorgeous, very informative as well) but the next one is eluding me.
If you found one, you'll know what to look for with the second. You should try broadening your search, though.
Thanks, tapewolf, I'll keep that in mind.
Holy crud, Witchiebunny, I was dreaming about it last night too!!
ok this is starting to drive me insane!
....more insane....
i cant find any!
i have been on nearly every page!
i....i...i have spent all day doing this???
.....man i suck
HA! I found em both. I laugh at all you n00bs who shall likely become lurkers (like me muahahaha) when you have the info. But for now I'm going to copy and paste all the stuff so I have it. If it's still up. Muahahahahaha. Again.
ok i,ve given up.
can someone PM me with links?
or at least tell me what pages they are hidden on?
it is 21:11 here and i have things that need doing...like sleeping.
Edit:
Done. -- llearch
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 13, 2007, 11:24:33 AM
The best way to get as many new members in a short amount of time, ever. Whether or not that's a good thing is still up for debate. :B
I think this still hasn't beaten the reveal of Aniz though. (At least, I think that was it.)
i meant to sign up for ages.
this was the last push i needed.
I literally couldn't sleep until I found them. There really is a ban warning about sharing details on them in the forum... Oh well, I finally got a long sleep after.
:) Found them both if you want to find them Here yo.... ( A scream in the background ) :kruger
So that's where they were.... thanks for the hint.
The profile pictures on those were especially well done Amber, is that a new coloring style?
Quote from: Lorien on November 13, 2007, 06:35:15 PM
...is that a new coloring style?
Now I want to see it. :<
One is in the kitchen, with the candlestick, by Prof. Plum.
the other is in the Billiard room, with the revolver by Mrs. White.
Quote from: Gildedtongue on November 13, 2007, 07:16:02 PM
One is in the kitchen, with the candlestick, by Prof. Plum.
the other is in the Billiard room, with the revolver by Mrs. White.
Oh, cha.
Found the other one! I'd like to thank [CENSORED] for giving me a crucial hint.
Also, I'd like to say the the pics are beautiful, and the quotes are hilarious!
Quote from: Gildedtongue on November 13, 2007, 07:16:02 PM
One is in the kitchen, with the candlestick, by Prof. Plum.
the other is in the Billiard room, with the revolver by Mrs. White.
Prof. Plum (http://www.mabsland.com/Mikelo/Clue_Plum.jpg) couldn't find his way out of a paper bag. :U
Mrs. White (http://www.mabsland.com/BokoAnth/Clue_White.jpg) however...prolly would be able to take ye down.
*pulls at her bushy hair* This has been driving me crazy since Monday! I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight if I don't find it. Could a kind mod please PM the information to me? Thank you forever!!! Have a cookie :mowcookie
This is indeed a perplexing one. It reminds me of the secret comics that Dave over at the Jack comics did a little while back. Took me forever to find his, these ones though I can't seem to even find the slightest glimmer.
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 13, 2007, 11:24:33 AM
The best way to get as many new members in a short amount of time, ever. Whether or not that's a good thing is still up for debate. :B
Just as long as we don't get another Kaskar, we'll do fine.
Edit: for such an infamous poster, his name is easy to misspell.
Quote from: Netrogo on November 13, 2007, 08:50:34 PM
This is indeed a perplexing one. It reminds me of the secret comics that Dave over at the Jack comics did a little while back. Took me forever to find his, these ones though I can't seem to even find the slightest glimmer.
They are in places slightly related to them.
*looks at the admins*
That's not enough to get banned right?
Wow, so much talk over something whose contents we are forbidden to reveal!
I've found them. While I was working. I was mad at my bosses so I searched for them while they weren't looking.
I surrender! My search time is so short and spread out that I can't remember what I've already looked at!
Well, I found one at least. Frustrating part is, I used logical deduction for that one and found it in about two minutes. The other one must be hidden sneakily.
Oh well, I'll need a PM to see the other one.
I fail because I have to work. :<
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 08:14:01 PM
Prof. Plum (http://www.mabsland.com/Mikelo/Clue_Plum.jpg) couldn't find his way out of a paper bag. :U
Mrs. White (http://www.mabsland.com/BokoAnth/Clue_White.jpg) however...prolly would be able to take ye down.
Daaawww. :U Precious.
:mwaha MWA HA HA!! I found the last one!! Thanks to {anonymous} for the help, man, I'll give you some good karma. I can sleep now. :boogie Or boogie-down, whichever.
To the rest, keep searching! It's worth it, oh man, it's worth it.
<--- Another Lurker fished out to beg for links via Pm.
The search has made my eyes "see" the color purple all the time now. And Iam dizzy uuugh I need a lunch bag. :crying
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 08:14:01 PM
Quote from: Gildedtongue on November 13, 2007, 07:16:02 PM
One is in the kitchen, with the candlestick, by Prof. Plum.
the other is in the Billiard room, with the revolver by Mrs. White.
Prof. Plum (http://www.mabsland.com/Mikelo/Clue_Plum.jpg) couldn't find his way out of a paper bag. :U
Mrs. White (http://www.mabsland.com/BokoAnth/Clue_White.jpg) however...prolly would be able to take ye down.
Prof. Plum/Mrs. White? *pauses at thought of potential crack pairing*
Anyway... *holds up sign that says "Will give cookies for hint"*
I found the one, but not the other.
Quote from: Slacker Spice on November 13, 2007, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 13, 2007, 08:14:01 PM
Quote from: Gildedtongue on November 13, 2007, 07:16:02 PM
One is in the kitchen, with the candlestick, by Prof. Plum.
the other is in the Billiard room, with the revolver by Mrs. White.
Prof. Plum (http://www.mabsland.com/Mikelo/Clue_Plum.jpg) couldn't find his way out of a paper bag. :U
Mrs. White (http://www.mabsland.com/BokoAnth/Clue_White.jpg) however...prolly would be able to take ye down.
Prof. Plum/Mrs. White? *pauses at thought of potential crack pairing*
Anyway... *holds up sign that says "Will give cookies for hint"*
I found the one, but not the other.
You've been given more hints than you realize.
Yes, I did it, I killed Yvette. I hated her, so much... That... it... it... flam - flames. Flames, on the side of my face, heathing... breathle - , heathing breaths. Heathing breath...
*whistles, having found both links, now, including the one he originally got via PM*
Quote from: modelincard on November 13, 2007, 04:13:50 PM
I think this still hasn't beaten the reveal of Aniz though. (At least, I think that was it.)
Hush, you fool, we aren't supposed to mention who the profiles are!
I'm not looking for them, and people (no names) are actively trying to get me to find them giving obnoxious hints and the like. Sooner or later, someone will just give me the links and I won't have to have lifted a finger or wasted any time doing it. :3
-EDIT-
Didn't lift a finger.
Gah! You made me de-lurk again!
I found the easy one (I think) but either I'm way off on the location of the second, or it's hidden a completely different way.
Edit: No sooner do I ask for help that I find it.
you think you've got problems?
a nice person gave me a link to one of them (to which, the first or second, I know not, only that it is awesome) but I don't know how it was hidden or how to get to it (aside from the direct link taht I will likely soon lose or forget)
I have tasted of the forbiden fruit, and I am no better for it.
*Looks at the monumental amount of class work*
Eh. I think I'll just wait until the profile section is updated.
Everyone else can have fun being frustrated though. :3
The sad part is that I downloaded Opera to use the features it provides. It wasn't any help.
I then clicked on another page just for fun, and the solution slapped me in the face. (http://komplete.eamped.com/images/logos/komplete.smilie.awesome.gif)
<Sigh> 4 hours ain't gotten me nowhere, can someone PM them to me?
Edit: Thanks! Gotten via PM
I registered here just so I could brag that I found both of the hidden pages. (http://dowdmeyn.users.sonic.net/emoticon/emot-bunchies.png)
I... I found them. I found them both.
...
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
:ipod :mowhappy :bunny :kirby :zombiekun2 :mwaha :januscat :peace :rock :idol :disco :mowdan :link :frog1 :lucca :frog2 :chrono1 :marle :simon :catgirl2
... Yeah, I'm done. SO HAPPY!
Lest anyone else feels like posting messages, I'd like to state that RogerFromOz, Netrogo, Alondro, Zanname, Slacker Spice, Reese Tora, Jim Halisstrad, and Joeyabc` have all received hints.
Did I miss anyone who didn't manage to find them on their own while I was AFK?
Thanks for destroying my Zen llearch.
Thanks a lot :<
Found'em though.
Easter Eggs? i must find them. not that i have herd of them i shall begin to digitally scourer the comic site to find them.... quick question though. how many am i looking for? it seems i missed some guest art while i was gone as well but i hope that will be in the archives.
Firstly - thanks and a virtual hug to Amber for the great comic that's been so entertaining to so many people (myself included) over the years!
Secondly - you can add another mark to your wall. Or maybe half a mark since I'm on hiatus...
And thirdly - hee hee - I found zee little wuns! I was going to do a little something to prove it, but then I thought about it for half a second and I realized that that would i) not mean anything and ii) make it more likely to spoil it by giving something away.
To those that have not found the secret pages, I just say re-read this thread. You'll probably end up finding them when you're not even looking...
Quote from: e_voyager on November 14, 2007, 07:40:50 AM
Easter Eggs? i must find them. not that i have herd of them i shall begin to digitally scourer the comic site to find them.... quick question though. how many am i looking for? it seems i missed some guest art while i was gone as well but i hope that will be in the archives.
The guest art will, eventually, be in the archives, I think.
As for the hidden pages - there are two of them. No more, no less. (unless Amber is messing with me, and has posted another one)...
Whoo founded!!! A winner is me!!
Meh...looked for ages, but I am neither patient nor tech-savvy. And I have to go to work in an hour...so... :mowsad
Can some PM me a hint? As in, what pages they're on? I can probably find them myself from there.
Thanks!
:mowwink
Edit: Done -- llearch
I have found the second one at last! Thankies to those who PM'd the hints! And ya know, the logic method that found the first one for me did actually work in that it was where I suspected. The link was just so inconspicuous I missed it when trying to find it just on my own and thus I went through everything on the entire site afterward. Even with the hints, I had to scan every milimeter of the place for 20 mins before I finally spotted it!
So who gets my optometrist bill? Amber or the code-monkey? :mowdizzy
Eeeiiieee, thank you for the hints, I found them in just a few minutes (though my eyes hurt now, heh.)
Fantastic, I love the coloring style. It does look new.
And the quotes...hilarious.
found them both :)
if anyone wishes to PM me anything, rest assured I will exploit the information for my own purposes.
I found them both. :mowhappy
Prease to hint the Eibborn.
Yeah...unfortunately I've resorted to breaking my lurking status and joining the cavalcade of people signing up just to ask for hintz plz.
So, if someone could PM me the hints I would be very grateful. <3
But hey, now that I have an account I can probably stick around.
Blerg!
I finally found one... and driving myself sane trying to find the other.
Sanity is overrated. Very much so. Could I beg, borrow, or steal some hints too please?
I found both of them. One I found by accident. :3
Ack! New peeps everywhere! I forgot about this possibility! :V
Can somebody PM me with a hint, I'm going crazy!
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 15, 2007, 01:34:06 AM
Ack! New peeps everywhere! I forgot about this possibility! :V
lol woops
$50 says a majority of them will only post once.
:mowtongue I won't post just once, I just didn't really know this place existed till i went seaching for the eggs, lol. But I've been reading DMFA for years, I'm real observant
Amber, you know, this reminds me of Neopets =P
Quote from: Kattuccino on November 15, 2007, 01:54:14 AM
Amber, you know, this reminds me of Neopets =P
You know me from neopets?
I'd be amused if in an alternate universe less people found the pages simply because Amber put them up on the cast bios page without telling anyone...
Quote from: xHaZxMaTx on November 15, 2007, 01:38:46 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 15, 2007, 01:34:06 AM
Ack! New peeps everywhere! I forgot about this possibility! :V
lol woops
$50 says a majority of them will only post once.
Nah. Posting is like potato chips. You can't have just one.
Quote from: Kattuccino on November 15, 2007, 01:54:14 AM
Amber, you know, this reminds me of Neopets =P
You won the Amber Conundrum! :mowcookie
GabrielsThoughts, Eibbor_N, Quixotic, Quats, and ambertino, there is a PM on it's way to you.
If you've found the two pages in the mean time, feel free to ignore the PM. ;-]
Geh. I feel like such a putz.
I can't find ANYTHING! *sobs*
Please someone take pity and PM them to me.
Or just the pages where they are hidden. I wish to know why I fail. :mowdizzy
Edit: Done -- llearch
@ llearch: Thanks. *hugs till ribs crack* :mowcookie You're the best thing since sliced bread. And jam.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 15, 2007, 01:34:06 AM
Ack! New peeps everywhere! I forgot about this possibility! :V
*Charline grins* Does this mean I have your permission to enact 'population control' measures? :kruger
I found both pages in 2 minutes thanks to something no one here has apparently thought of. *Runs off laughing maniacly*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 14, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: e_voyager on November 14, 2007, 07:40:50 AM
Easter Eggs? i must find them. not that i have herd of them i shall begin to digitally scourer the comic site to find them.... quick question though. how many am i looking for? it seems i missed some guest art while i was gone as well but i hope that will be in the archives.
The guest art will, eventually, be in the archives, I think.
It's not in the archives now, of course, but all three of them are in the artists' deviantART galleries, though I can't think of where to find Paul's. It was posted on the forum sometime in the past, anyway, so you've probably seen it already. I dunno. But for now, here are the links to Zina's and mine:
http://zinacat.deviantart.com/art/It-s-a-twist-69048105
http://cameroncn.deviantart.com/art/Dan-of-DMFA-guest-drawing-69350648
Or, if you don't like dA, here's a direct link for mine:
http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/477360_zdxqd/Dan.jpg
thank you quit kindly mister box man. i spent too much energy in the real world battle know as work and have only just return to declare my exciting victory in the egg hunt i still have about 6 paves of post to read in the forms though. i still look at the kindly provided guest art then hibernate until the wee hours of the morning. take care and thank you.
opps sorry i'm soo tired that i mistook you form Llearch whom you quoted.
Yah. That wasn't me, that was one of the artists in question. ;-]
Quote from: Alondro on November 15, 2007, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 15, 2007, 01:34:06 AM
Ack! New peeps everywhere! I forgot about this possibility! :V
*Charline grins* Does this mean I have your permission to enact 'population control' measures? :kruger
No, no it doesn't.
:mowdizzy I feel horrible that I joined for help(especially since i'm so bad at sticking around in forums), but I've been searching for forever and I still can't find them. Could someone help me out please?
all i can say is that amber is a web ninja. she knows the lessons that splinter taught his sons and she knows them well. whats does that mean... i'm not sure.
Quote from: CameronCN on November 12, 2007, 11:59:58 PM
Could someone please spoil it for me too? ;)
Ditto...
Spoil me baby!
:mowdizzy
Is it bad that I second/third/fourth/fifth/five-hunder-sixty-third the notion of "I joined simply because I could not find the easter eggs?" Been reading for a long while now, enjoy the comic, but been far too lazy to sign up for forums... could anybody possibly give me hints or even the exact where abouts? :) I'm stupid, and willingly admit it!
Can somebody send these to me? I can't seem to find any, no matter where I look.
Thanks.
VSMIT.
Amber may be a Web Ninja, but there is no hidden treasure a pirate like me cant find. Arrrr!
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 15, 2007, 01:34:06 AM
Ack! New peeps everywhere! I forgot about this possibility! :V
I wouldn't say I'm new exactly. Just... haven't posted in a loooooooooong time.
Geez, I feel proud for having found them myself in like no time at all... I just though, hmm, what characters could they be of and what pages would relate to them already on the site? And it came to me. The second one a little while later, but still =P
Then again, I'm not all hardcore and willing to scan with my eyes like some of you all. Tab FTW.
Shhh, Kattucino they must discover the secret on their own :mwaha Before you know, we'll have nothing left to gloat over :<
Ok the second one is driving me nuts, I want someone to PM hints please
Okay, I'm going to be as vague as possible with this. This is just a random thought, but shouldn't the one with less visible jewelery's favourite food perhaps be muffins?
Sorry if this is giving too much away, though I don't really see how it gives away more than the 'tab' comment or the post with the number in it. (STILL trying to be vague!) Everyone loves muffins!
fwahahahaha
i've seen them
i've seen them so hard
all night long
Birdey, Aurawyn, Tsaya, VSMIT, LoneHowler, you have mail.
oh no. the box has gone aol! why world why!
after 30 messages, you start to lose originality... :-/
...finds... nothing... :tired *collapses*
Edit:
Thirty-one! *thunder-crash* Mwahahahaha!
-- llearch
Could someone link me to a page where one is hidden?
I would still like to find them, just have a slight head-start, 'cause I'm pretty bad at these things. ):
Also this is a far better solution than my original plan which involved wget -r and a couple of hours of waiting.
Cheers
~Lexi
Edit:
Ok, so thirty-three.
-- llearch
If any of you are Linux users and run KDE, remember: In Konqueror, you can activate single-letter shortcuts for every link in a page by just pressing and releasing the <Ctrl> key.
Should make your searching easier. Happy Hunting! :mowcookie
I've had to come out of my lurker status to ask for help. :< Nearly five hours of searching and nothing. Granted, I did get a bit distracted by reading the archives but that's neither here nor there.
If someone would take pity and PM me the pages, that'd be super. And also, maybe where they were hidden. I'd like to know where I missed 'em. Thanksu~
Wow, I have found nothing. Granted, spiders are not known for being good searchers..I never won at hide and seek as a kid! :cry
Hehe, seriously, I just tabbed through most the pages and did not find a single address I did not know. I really must be missing something but I will never give up! ..Or at least wait another few hours to give up. 8)
Quote from: candide on November 16, 2007, 10:25:56 PM
If any of you are Linux users and run KDE, remember: In Konqueror, you can activate single-letter shortcuts for every link in a page by just pressing and releasing the <Ctrl> key.
Should make your searching easier. Happy Hunting! :mowcookie
Same with Firefox on Windows, and, I suspect, Linux.
Edit:
Oops, I misread - with Firefox you can <tab> through the links.
-RobbieThe1st
Thirty-five.
DeuceExMachina, Akisohida, I hope that helps...
I looked and looked, and can only find one :mowsad
I'm usually pretty good at finding stuff, but i guess not that good. :P
~ Found it.
Ok. No excuses. I joined because this is driving me nuts. I know everyone loves muffins :mowwink, but what else am I looking for? I like treasure hunts but I need more clues. :<
Edit:
Thirty-six.
thanks for the hints I found the second and most devious page.
and to save some people hours of searching you won't find it by searching the archives comic by comic, it's a great was to spend several hours but it won't get you the hidden pages
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 17, 2007, 08:21:10 AM
Quote from: candide on November 16, 2007, 10:25:56 PM
If any of you are Linux users and run KDE, remember: In Konqueror, you can activate single-letter shortcuts for every link in a page by just pressing and releasing the <Ctrl> key.
Should make your searching easier. Happy Hunting! :mowcookie
Same with Firefox on Windows, and, I suspect, Linux.
While I didn't know about the Win-version of Firefox, on Linux, I've found no such feature. (And I've used Linux for many years now, so it's not for lack of familiarity. ;) ) But Konqueror does.
Just so you know. :)
Quote from: candide on November 18, 2007, 01:39:35 PM
While I didn't know about the Win-version of Firefox, on Linux, I've found no such feature. (And I've used Linux for many years now, so it's not for lack of familiarity. ;) ) But Konqueror does.
I think it's a KDE special. I've never seen Firefox do this on any platform, and Safari won't either. You might want to post a screenshot of it doing this (not of the restricted pages obviously!)
I'd do it myself, but I stopped Konqueror from doing this as it would misinterpret my attempts to do CTRL-T etc, sometimes catastrophically (sending unfinished PMs etc). And I can't remember how to set it back :P
If you are using Firefox, there is an option under Tools marked "Page Info". This opens a window showing a lot of information about the page and one of the tabs within the window will show all of the links on the page. I am running Firefox on a Macintosh, so it might be in a slightly different location on Windows, Linux, and other UNIX variants. I don't know of anything providing links with single keystrokes, but I'm not familiar with everything in Firefox and it might be a special add-on.
Naldru:
Holy eternally-laughing cow! I
completely forgot about the "Page Info" feature. It's been so long since I actually needed it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 18, 2007, 01:52:47 PM
I think it's a KDE special. I've never seen Firefox do this on any platform, and Safari won't either. You might want to post a screenshot of it doing this (not of the restricted pages obviously!)
Well, if it helps...
...okay. Done. Here it is (click for full view):
(http://pics.livejournal.com/_candide_/pic/0000x6zw) (http://pics.livejournal.com/_candide_/pic/0000x6zw)
The letters in boxes are the link identifiers. The letters themselves are the shortcuts. You "click" the link if you hit that key.
I apoligise, everyone. I completely misread the post.
With Firefox on Windows, you can <Tab> through the links one at a time, and if you right click > View Page Info, then go to the links tab, you can see the links.
If you have DownThemAll, its easier - right click > DownThemAll, and you get a nice, easy to read, list of links - basically just a formated version of the View Page Info thing.
-RobbieThe1st
The LinkCounter Add-on for Firefox also works well.
best hunt ever., or at least to date. thanks for all the fun
Psh. Everything but using your own eyes or admitting you suck and whining for help feels like cheating to me.
(...Thanks again, those who helped me... :B)
Quote from: Eibbor_N on November 19, 2007, 07:44:26 PM
Psh. Everything but using your own eyes or admitting you suck and whining for help feels like cheating to me.
(...Thanks again, those who helped me... :B)
What about if you use your eyeballs to look at the web code rather than the web pages.
Quote from: Naldru on November 19, 2007, 08:56:08 PM
What about if you use your eyeballs to look at the web code rather than the web pages.
Then you are Teh Übergeek and Grand Master! ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: candide on November 19, 2007, 11:44:49 PM
Quote from: Naldru on November 19, 2007, 08:56:08 PM
What about if you use your eyeballs to look at the web code rather than the web pages.
Then you are Teh Übergeek and Grand Master! ;) ;) ;)
What about if you look at the code and simply Find "<a href=", and then F3 through all the links.. What do you say to that? :P
-RobbieThe1st
I say that people who gloat about the methods they use are far worse than the people who use shady methods. And if they keep bragging about 'teh awesome' they are, they are going to get a bannin out of spite. :B
(Edit note: Keep in mind there is a difference between saying "hey I used this to figure it out" and gloating.)
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 20, 2007, 02:06:34 AM
I say that people who gloat about the methods they use are far worse than the people who use shady methods. And if they keep bragging about 'teh awesome' they are, they are going to get a bannin out of spite. :B
(Edit note: Keep in mind there is a difference between saying "hey I used this to figure it out" and gloating.)
Tabbing through links is not "Leet Hax"; I learned that a while ago when I discovered not all computers had mice. :-p
I used tarot cards to determine the best time to perform a seance in order to ask the spirits if they knew where they were... they didn't know :C
So I just found them the old fashioned way: with tea leaves. :)
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on November 20, 2007, 02:08:41 AM
Tabbing through links is not "Leet Hax"; I learned that a while ago when I discovered not all computers had mice. :-p
Heh. I learned way back when I had a mouse that kept breaking. Most annoying to have to close everything down and reboot WinNT in order to get it back...
.. but I -did- get good at controlling windows without a mouse. ;-]
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 20, 2007, 02:02:55 AM
What about if you look at the code and simply Find "<a href=", and then F3 through all the links.. What do you say to that? :P
-RobbieThe1st
Wait wait wait, what program were you doing that in? I just pressed 'find next' each time... using notepad.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 20, 2007, 06:21:54 AM
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on November 20, 2007, 02:08:41 AM
Tabbing through links is not "Leet Hax"; I learned that a while ago when I discovered not all computers had mice. :-p
Heh. I learned way back when I had a mouse that kept breaking. Most annoying to have to close everything down and reboot WinNT in order to get it back...
.. but I -did- get good at controlling windows without a mouse. ;-]
I learned way way back when a 286 was considered a "high-end" computer. >:3
Quote from: Reaver225 on November 20, 2007, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 20, 2007, 02:02:55 AM
What about if you look at the code and simply Find "<a href=", and then F3 through all the links.. What do you say to that? :P
-RobbieThe1st
Wait wait wait, what program were you doing that in? I just pressed 'find next' each time... using notepad.
That would be notepad; F3 is the hotkey for "find next" in most microsoft programs
I tried for to use a mouse to find the links...
But it squeaked and bited me on the thumb... :B
Quote from: Alondro on November 20, 2007, 06:22:26 PM
I tried for to use a mouse to find the links...
But it squeaked and bited me on the thumb... :B
Must have been a Microsoft mouse.
The most annoying part about all this is that next time a new secret page is added, it won't be advertised, people will have to find out about it the old fashioned way - ny finding it.
And by "most annoying" I mean "best"... :boogie
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 20, 2007, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: Reaver225 on November 20, 2007, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 20, 2007, 02:02:55 AM
What about if you look at the code and simply Find "<a href=", and then F3 through all the links.. What do you say to that? :P
-RobbieThe1st
Wait wait wait, what program were you doing that in? I just pressed 'find next' each time... using notepad.
That would be notepad; F3 is the hotkey for "find next" in most microsoft programs
...So it is! I've always used Ctrl-F! Thank you, you've saved me holding down a function key, marginally improving my efficiency!
In Safari 3, you can set up your own styles that will apply before the style sheet in the document.
If you create a file links.css and place the following line in it
a {border: solid red thick; }
You can then go to the Advanced tab under Safari -> Preferences and select the links.css file using the Style pull-down menu. This will surround all anchor tags with a thick red border (the a in <a href= stands for anchor), making them much easier to see. Now, if Amber uses something besides an anchor tag to insert the hidden links, this won't work. With this setting, you can go through a large number of web pages quickly.
I'm not sure if you can do this in Safari 2 or Firefox.
Quote from: Naldru on November 23, 2007, 11:41:22 AM
In Safari 3, you can set up your own styles that will apply before the style sheet in the document.
If you create a file links.css and place the following line in it
a {border: solid red thick; }
You can then go to the Advanced tab under Safari -> Preferences and select the links.css file using the Style pull-down menu. This will surround all anchor tags with a thick red border (the a in <a href= stands for anchor), making them much easier to see. Now, if Amber uses something besides an anchor tag to insert the hidden links, this won't work. With this setting, you can go through a large number of web pages quickly.
I'm not sure if you can do this in Safari 2 or Firefox.
At which point, Amber will have to resort to placing javascript links in 'on click' tags and link-like formatting to spans around the links. :P
Quote from: Naldru on November 23, 2007, 11:41:22 AM
In Safari 3, you can set up your own styles that will apply before the style sheet in the document.
If you create a file links.css and place the following line in it
a {border: solid red thick; }
You can then go to the Advanced tab under Safari -> Preferences and select the links.css file using the Style pull-down menu. This will surround all anchor tags with a thick red border (the a in <a href= stands for anchor), making them much easier to see. Now, if Amber uses something besides an anchor tag to insert the hidden links, this won't work. With this setting, you can go through a large number of web pages quickly.
I'm not sure if you can do this in Safari 2 or Firefox.
You can do this in IE 6 and up, I think, and FF 1 and up, for sure. It's part of the "allowing people with disabilities to use the 'net" thing - enables users to override the website with their own settings.
How you accomplish it varies in different browsers, mind, but the idea is there.
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 23, 2007, 01:23:57 PM
At which point, Amber will have to resort to placing javascript links in 'on click' tags and link-like formatting to spans around the links. :P
I don't know. Unless you try to pick up the clicks with input or textarea tags, you are starting to get into the "results are undefined" territory.
I was thinking more of keystroke capture or image maps myself. Of course, the classic from the movie would be to have a "search" input text field and show the secret page if a special word is entered in the field.
Well, I was thinking more simple, for ease of page modification. You can make a span tag that performs the exact same function as an anchor tag (but doesn't behave like one or show up to link highlighters) by inserting a single javascript line to change the page. The other stuff, people may get sispicious when a new feature is added. :)
I believe the idea would be to implement the feature, and wait a month or so to put an easter egg into it.
I doubt Amber would go for that, though. I think she's more of the opinion that, if people are going to be like that, she might as well just link them on the cast page.
Which is a bit sad, really. I enjoyed looking for them, even though I'd been provided links to them to start with (on grounds of, "if anyone posts these, remove the post and beat them senseless, thank-you dear mods" or words to that effect...)
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 23, 2007, 06:04:01 PM
Well, I was thinking more simple, for ease of page modification. You can make a span tag that performs the exact same function as an anchor tag (but doesn't behave like one or show up to link highlighters) by inserting a single javascript line to change the page. The other stuff, people may get sispicious when a new feature is added. :)
I don't think an onclick event can be received except by an element that can receive focus. It might work on Internet Explorer 6, but that's always marched to the beat of a different drummer. I just tried with Firefox and Safari 3, and it didn't seem to work there. When you try to complicate things on web pages, my experience is that they tend to behave weirdly between browsers and between versions of the same browser.
That's why I liked llearch's little box creature icons. It has a nice effect, but only required the basic portions of the HTML specification.
When it comes to what people will do to hack web sites, there doesn't seem to be any limit to what some people will do, regardless of whether it's DMFA, Second Life, or World of Warcraft. I can think of ways in which things could be hidden so that hackers couldn't find it, but I don't see how anyone else would find it either.
As any good stage magician (as opposed to the people in DMFA who can really do magic), you should never repeat a trick because people will then know what to look for. Perhaps there could be other fun things to be placed on the pages: word finds, coloring pages, perhaps something else. Perhaps all the programmers (or people who claim to be programmers) on the forums could use their powers for good, creating games and amusements to be placed on the site.
Quote from: Naldru on November 23, 2007, 09:17:23 PM
That's why I liked llearch's little box creature icons. It has a nice effect, but only required the basic portions of the HTML specification.
... My what?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2007, 09:50:47 PM
Quote from: Naldru on November 23, 2007, 09:17:23 PM
That's why I liked llearch's little box creature icons. It has a nice effect, but only required the basic portions of the HTML specification.
... My what?
Your avatar, it keeps changing.
Quote from: Naldru on November 23, 2007, 09:17:23 PM
I don't think an onclick event can be received except by an element that can receive focus. It might work on Internet Explorer 6, but that's always marched to the beat of a different drummer. I just tried with Firefox and Safari 3, and it didn't seem to work there. When you try to complicate things on web pages, my experience is that they tend to behave weirdly between browsers and between versions of the same browser.
Hmm, that's odd, the on-click should be attachable to any visible screen element; that's how a lot of drop-down menus are created.
The point is, though, that the links could be hidden in on-click properties of various items in order to hide them from creative use of CSS. :)
Quote from: AndersW on November 23, 2007, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2007, 09:50:47 PM
... My what?
Your avatar, it keeps changing.
Oh, that.
Actually, that's just a script on the server side that returns a random image. No big deal.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2007, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: AndersW on November 23, 2007, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2007, 09:50:47 PM
... My what?
Your avatar, it keeps changing.
Oh, that.
Actually, that's just a script on the server side that returns a random image. No big deal.
simple and effective
That's what's known as elegance of design, something that is sorely missing in many web site designs who are too interested in the bell and whistle count and not enough on how it affects the viewer.
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 20, 2007, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: Reaver225 on November 20, 2007, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on November 20, 2007, 02:02:55 AM
What about if you look at the code and simply Find "<a href=", and then F3 through all the links.. What do you say to that? :P
-RobbieThe1st
Wait wait wait, what program were you doing that in? I just pressed 'find next' each time... using notepad.
That would be notepad; F3 is the hotkey for "find next" in most microsoft programs
Also the hotkey in Firefox.
I meant you simply right-click> view source, press CTRL+F to bring up the find box, type in '<a href=', and F3 through the links. Simple!
Of cource, as it is now, there is pretty much no way to stop people from being able to view the source of a page with HTML.
That is why flash and java are used quite a bit for 'secure' data showing, such that people cannot view the source, however even that won't stop an experienced person. Simply, the problem with 'protecting' content from the viewer and only letting the user view it in the way it was intended to be viewed, is that no matter the amount of security you place on an bit of data, it has to be decoded on the viewing end, which means that at that point, the user can copy and mess with the data.
Just put a link like you were doing, and use CSS to have it be invisible or the same color as the surrounding text.
<_< I had an ebil idea: What if you had your hidden page be a normal page, and have it such that, depending on the referrer, it would show either the standard page or the hidden information(/both). As the decision would be server-based, it would be impossible to detect, and while you can fake a referrer, you would have to know the exact referrer in this case to trigger it. If you hot-linked the page, it would show up the normal information, which would confuse most people.
As Llearch knows, this is really simple to implement with php(about 2 lines), and, being server based, the viewer could not detect it.
Even knowing that the code is used, it would be impossible to use that information to any real advantage.
if(isset($_SERVER["HTTP_REFERER"]) && stristr($_SERVER["HTTP_REFERER"],"*page*")) {
echo "your hidden info";
} else {
echo "the normal info";
};
Quite simple, and adaptable to work with just about anything.
You could even replace the echo "";'s with include("");'s to display a full page.
-RobbieThe1st
include, eh?
Does that work with including a flat HTML file?
(I've got some pages from when I was just learning PHP that seriously need updates... and that would certainly help in re-writing the security...)
I'm not going to upgrade the difficulty bar just so a few people can feel more challenged. Part of the point was that these were also supposed to be links people could randomly come across. If people can't play by the rules, I'll just simply not let them know when there is a game.
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2007, 02:42:56 AM
include, eh?
Does that work with including a flat HTML file?
(I've got some pages from when I was just learning PHP that seriously need updates... and that would certainly help in re-writing the security...)
Yup, thats the point - it basically just passes through the included file direct to the browser(as well as what other code has been echo'd).
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 24, 2007, 04:17:02 AM
I'm not going to upgrade the difficulty bar just so a few people can feel more challenged. Part of the point was that these were also supposed to be links people could randomly come across. If people can't play by the rules, I'll just simply not let them know when there is a game.
Well, true enough, however, as I just posted, for people doing the hunt properly, it would not change the difficulty at all, just it would make it nearly impossible to cheat.
I doubt that you(/llearch) will implement my suggestion, all things considered, but it would be much simpler to implement and work better than most things posted here.
-RobbieThe1st
Bweee! That was fun. :D
Quote from: Tikki on November 24, 2007, 06:49:23 AM
Bweee! That was fun. :D
.. and thus is the whole point. Congrats on finding them without assistance. ;-]
Edit:
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2007, 02:42:56 AM
include, eh?
Does that work with including a flat HTML file?
As Robbie says, yes. Basically, if you include a file, it treats the file as a standard php file - with all the restrictions that has; any code needs to be included in
<?php ?> tags, otherwise the whole file is treated as html.
So if you want to include html, just include it, and it'll magically work. This is often used to include -chunks- of html, in my experience; for example, having the whole site use a standard header or footer, and replace the bit in the middle. Or to load a default menu on every page, you can have the menu as a separate file. This means if you change one link, you change it in one place, rather than having to edit every single file on the site. This is what's known as "smart" ;-]
I can see how that would be useful :3
The piece in question is a hoooge-arse form that I wrote before security was an issue(and before I figured out I could make a function for writting drop-downs that appear more than once in the form). Then I wrote a header to perform authentication (after a logon screen that sets session ID and stuff) but I was left with the huge block of code I wanted to NOT appear if they loaded the page without being authenticated.
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2007, 01:22:53 PM
I can see how that would be useful :3
The piece in question is a hoooge-arse form that I wrote before security was an issue(and before I figured out I could make a function for writting drop-downs that appear more than once in the form). Then I wrote a header to perform authentication (after a logon screen that sets session ID and stuff) but I was left with the huge block of code I wanted to NOT appear if they loaded the page without being authenticated.
Look in the PHP books for session control and session awareness. Starting with PHP 4, you have the ability to store variables that will be available to all of the pages in a session. This would include a variable indicating that the session was authenticated. You simply set the pages so that if the variable indicates the session hasn't been authenticated, all the user gets is a request to log in.
book?
see, actually, I've been teaching myself PHP from PHP.org for the last year. I should have looked at the section on session control more closely, because I missed the bit about authenticated sessions you mentioned.
*Skims through the topic.* Why can't people just have fun?
PS: try php.net.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 20, 2007, 02:06:34 AMI say that people who gloat about the methods they use are far worse than the people who use shady methods. And if they keep bragging about 'teh awesome' they are, they are going to get a bannin out of spite. :B
(Edit note: Keep in mind there is a difference between saying "hey I used this to figure it out" and gloating.)
Who's gloating? I haven't seen anyone doing that.
And what's wrong with praising a fellow member of the forums?!?
Quote from: Gabi on November 24, 2007, 03:40:56 PM
*Skims through the topic.* Why can't people just have fun?
PS: try php.net.
whups... did I say .org? i meant .net, I always type the wrong one in first and have load the other page. :rolleyes
(I meant he official one where you download the source or installer and submit bug reports :sweatdrop )
Quote from: Reese Tora on November 24, 2007, 01:22:53 PM
I can see how that would be useful :3
The piece in question is a hoooge-arse form that I wrote before security was an issue(and before I figured out I could make a function for writting drop-downs that appear more than once in the form). Then I wrote a header to perform authentication (after a logon screen that sets session ID and stuff) but I was left with the huge block of code I wanted to NOT appear if they loaded the page without being authenticated.
Talk to me OOB about this. I've got two or three copies of something that does almost precisely this, which might show you some interesting ways of doing it.
Fairly simple code, too.
Try either the IRC or IM...
Yay! Found one! The second one will drive me mad until I uncover it!
[Edit: And I like games, so I uncovered it the old fashoned way. Was fun!]
Worth the time to explore for! :)
Quote from: Grenn on November 25, 2007, 02:41:44 AM
[Edit: And I like games, so I uncovered it the old fashoned way. Was fun!]
Worth the time to explore for! :)
... I guess that means you -don't- want me to provide hints. ;-]
Hmm.....
Nah. Much more rewarding to find it without them :eager
While it's true that finding them on your own is much more rewarding, I have to give in and ask for a push in the right direction.
So, hints please?
(Shameless, I know - but I'm a longtime reader, admirer and lurker.)
Quote from: Dayliss on November 26, 2007, 12:57:30 AM
So, hints please?
(Shameless, I know - but I'm a longtime reader, admirer and lurker.)
The first hin~* MMFPHL! MMNHPHF! *thunk* :knifed
Quote from: Dayliss on November 26, 2007, 12:57:30 AM
While it's true that finding them on your own is much more rewarding, I have to give in and ask for a push in the right direction.
So, hints please?
(Shameless, I know - but I'm a longtime reader, admirer and lurker.)
Woot! One more, and I get a free set of steak knives... ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 26, 2007, 11:29:13 AM
Quote from: Dayliss on November 26, 2007, 12:57:30 AM
While it's true that finding them on your own is much more rewarding, I have to give in and ask for a push in the right direction.
So, hints please?
(Shameless, I know - but I'm a longtime reader, admirer and lurker.)
Woot! One more, and I get a free set of steak knives... ;-]
Hah, I'll try to round up another lurker/lazy person for you then.
Quote from: Dayliss on November 26, 2007, 12:39:38 PM
Hah, I'll try to round up another lurker/lazy person for you then.
Heh. I re-counted. I'm up to 37. So there's a couple more to go yet. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 26, 2007, 01:00:44 PM
Heh. I re-counted. I'm up to 37. So there's a couple more to go yet. ;-]
I was originally going to do a count when I posted, but I lost track as to whether it was new members or strictly anyone who asked for help.
Some asked via pm. ;-]
Ha ha, found the second one today. I found the first one on the same day Amber announced them, and then got tired looking for the second. Funny thing is, in both cases I found when I relaxed, and wasn't "trying" to find the links, it's like I was somehow drawn towards them.
The profile pages are good, what really surprised me the most wasEDIT:YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. INSTANT BAN.
*giggle*
You should have posted, and then edited to put in the last bit, though. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 28, 2007, 09:13:19 PM
*giggle*
You should have posted, and then edited to put in the last bit, though. ;-]
I don't know if the moderators should be giving instructions on successful deception. It gives a bad impression. You should consider planting them using fake accounts like the politicians do.
... it wouldn't be a successful deception. It'd just take a moment longer to realise.
If I edit someone else's post, it lists that -I- edited it, not -them-. If -they- edit it, it lists their name, not one of the admins.
The point is, if -nobody- edits it, then there's no tag at the bottom of the post. And while it looks very much like someone got banned, it's not -quite- close enough to pass for more than a moment. *grin*
Besides - if the -admins- can't tell that someone is joking, then we have some serious problems.
i found both pretty easily i just spotted something that looked a bit unusual and checked it out
they both had some pretty cool info
OMG! I didn't even know there were easter eggs! I'm off to find them!
*Changes into orange super hero suit*
FISTS OF JUSTICE! AWAY!
X.X *brain fizzles* Someone pm me the links?
...I suck at trying to find hidden things at websites...
Can someone please PM me the links? Pleaaassse??
*gives the cutest dragon hatchling eyes in existence*
Nevermind. I found one.
THE HUNT IS ON!
Quote from: Rambon on December 03, 2007, 09:21:25 PM
X.X *brain fizzles* Someone pm me the links?
Thirty-eight. ;-]
I presume Zachski doesn't want help yet. ;-]
They are nice pages. Still it took me a few hours to find them as the Easter eggs were well planted before i returned form my near 3 months of 97% down time. er time offline that is.
Ok, I'm pathetic. After searching for the hidden pages and not finding them, I'm reduced to joining the forum and begging for the links in a PM. Please.
Thirty-nine.
I'll bet I'm the first to have joined to thank you guys for the hints. :) It only took 5 minutes to find them with your help; I probably wouldn't have located them at all by myself.
Thanks.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 28, 2007, 09:54:06 PM
... it wouldn't be a successful deception. It'd just take a moment longer to realise.
If I edit someone else's post, it lists that -I- edited it, not -them-. If -they- edit it, it lists their name, not one of the admins.
The point is, if -nobody- edits it, then there's no tag at the bottom of the post. And while it looks very much like someone got banned, it's not -quite- close enough to pass for more than a moment. *grin*
Besides - if the -admins- can't tell that someone is joking, then we have some serious problems.
Exactly, which means that if you want to perpetrate a successful deception, you have to make the post, then go and beg Llearch to edit it, either through PM or through
that which shall not be named.
>:3
-RobbieThe1st
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on December 12, 2007, 07:36:57 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 28, 2007, 09:54:06 PM
... it wouldn't be a successful deception. It'd just take a moment longer to realise.
If I edit someone else's post, it lists that -I- edited it, not -them-. If -they- edit it, it lists their name, not one of the admins.
The point is, if -nobody- edits it, then there's no tag at the bottom of the post. And while it looks very much like someone got banned, it's not -quite- close enough to pass for more than a moment. *grin*
Besides - if the -admins- can't tell that someone is joking, then we have some serious problems.
Exactly, which means that if you want to perpetrate a successful deception, you have to make the post, then go and beg Llearch to edit it, either through PM or through that which shall not be named.
>:3
-RobbieThe1st
You people are giving me ideas.
Found 'em. Thanks, and glad to see it was one of the characters that I've been wanting to see a bio of. 8)
Quote from: Aracia on December 12, 2007, 07:26:19 AM
I'll bet I'm the first to have joined to thank you guys for the hints. :) It only took 5 minutes to find them with your help; I probably wouldn't have located them at all by myself.
Thanks.
No, I think I have two other grateful recipients.
Granted that's not a great rate...
Hmm. I went and counted - I actually got 17 thank-you's via pm.
... :'D Fourty?
Um. I found one but I can't find the other one. ._. Can someone send me the links and maybe where they're hidden?
...I have now been looking for these pages for days...I can't do this, I'd like to find them but i've officially accepted that I don't have the skill to find them, I give up.
If someone can p.m the links to me I'd be gratefull if not then I'm out of luck for these pages.
Forty-one. ;-]
Okay, I admit it: the only reason I joined was for hints to those Easter Eggs. So can anyone PM me the links?
I remember saying way back that I was gonna just wait until they came up on the DMFA Wiki. Well, that actually prompted someone to go do just that, I checked it out, it had links to the pages, but I didn't actually click on them just yet. I went after them a little later, only to find they had been mysteriously deleted.
This was actually a while ago, I'm bringing it up now because I've decided, 'ah, what the heck, I'd like to know know what all the hubub is about'.
But I do have a question: What happened to the Wiki article?
It broke the law, and was thus smited out of existence...
Quote from: VSMIT on December 16, 2007, 05:07:14 PM
It broke the law, and was thus smited out of existence...
...How?
There was a law that was placed back on the first page
QuoteAnyone posting them will be banned
I assume this transfers over to the wiki, as well.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 16, 2007, 05:24:11 PM
...How?
The pages state "Do not tell anyone IN PUBLIC about these pages on pain of bannination from the forum" - the person who posted them to the WikuWiki posted them within 12 hours of them appearing on the site. This was felt to be somewhat of a thumbing of the nose at the request within the pages themselves.
Erm. I'm paraphrasing, of course. And yes, technically the WikuWiki isn't the forum. It is, however, a public listing, and there was no spoiler space or anything - just out and out copies of the content of the hidden pages. Close enough to be dodgy.
Edit:
Forty-two. What an auspicious number.
Oh WONDERFUL :[
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on November 12, 2007, 11:37:53 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: computer nerd on November 12, 2007, 06:49:35 PM
hey when will we see them not hidden :3
Probably never. They are secret pages for a reason. :U
What?!? I was gonna wait until they were made legitimate!
DAMN!
Ok, I'll wait until they are added to the Wiku-Wiki. If these pages are genuine information, it's gotta be put up there sometime.
Does this mean they're never going to be put in the Wiki? If so, please send me links to the pages. I am the worst person at finding things in the world. If I'm not told exactly where something is, I will never find it, much to the ire of many who ask me to look for things for them :doh This is why I haven't even tried to look for the pages.
[flashback]This also got to be a little embarassing during my family Easter Hunts, when, even though I was the oldest, I was always the last to find my basket :C (the difficulty was age-based, so, because I was the oldest, my basket was always the most well-hidden, while the little kiddies had ones that were in plain sight, or close to it) Sometimes we even did batches of color-coded plastic eggs, in and outdoors. Again, me in last place 'A'[/flashback]
...Soooo...is it ever going to be put up in the Wiki? If not, pages please? :<
Well, if you ask, we'll send it. If you make vague comments about looking for it, it's unclear if you -like- not finding it, or if you didn't look for ages but are looking now, didn't look for ages but found recently, or what...
And you ruined my perfect forty-two. ;-]
.. I remember with our yearly easter egg hunts. I remember Dad found one of his one year, from the previous year. I also remember finding one of mine not too long ago that had been -glued- into an empty walnut shell. My sister likes me, honest. ;-]
Of course, us having 8 or so parents and kids wandering around, there's a -lot- of places where eggs can be found. We had a standing rule of Nobody, but Nobody tells Anybody where their eggs are. You can hint, if they ask for it, but other than that, no. So you get things like eggs in plain sight for the little ones - sitting under plants, or in the fruit bowl, or that sort of thing - all the way up to balanced on top of a picture frame (for short person) and wedged between picture frame and wall - in one memorable case, both of these at the same time for two different people. Or inside decks of cards, or balanced on the top of a book in one or more of he bookcases, or in the hat of one of the people walking around the room (that one was -real- hard to figure out, because "cold, warm, cold" kept changing...) or the like.
Many, many happy years spent looking. ;-] And hiding, for that matter. I think Dad had one of his still missing, because we put it inside the sugar container, -under- the sugar. Almost - just the label showing, so you could see it without moving it. (one of the rules, of course)
Damn walnuts.
I was already threatened... so I won't post them up again (if ever) for a long while...
I cave :(
Found one, but the second one eludes me. Can't say which of course because that would be a breach :p So I suppose sending both would be the best way to go.
Pm #43 (or is it 44 now?) please? :mowninja :mowcookie
Forty-four people.
Somewhat less than that PMs, because I did a bunch of group PMs.
Thanks!
:eager 8) :)
You're welcome. ;-]
I've tried. I've really tried. I've checked over links. I've clicked every image I could find. I've done everything but go back through the entire archive looking. ...and if one or both of them are hidden in the archives, than Amber has passed the line from "Evil" to "Sadistically Evil". Of course, if it HAD been in the archives, fewer people would have found it, and this thread would have even MORE requests. The only explanation I can come up with is that I have somehow managed to miss the hidden links for a month and a half already.
With that in mind, I am forced to throw in the towel. I can't use up all my free time panning over the website anymore. I barely allow any time to reading other webcomics. I don't even watch TV anymore. I haven't even touched my brand new PS3! Ratchet & Clank calls to me...
...ahem. Anyway, I gave it my best, and fell short. Feel free to point out just how blatantly obvious the links really are. ...please? :cry
Hahah, I found one easily. Just looked at a certain character's cast page. (The link is hidden, obviously. Clicking pictures for this one will get you nowhere. Try reading the cast pages. Slowly and carefully...>:3)
The other one, I cheated to find. But then again, in the DMFA universe, dragons are cheaters...>:3 I might go and try to find it later without cheating when I have some free time.
Forty-five...
Well, ~I~ feel silly now. How on Furrae did I miss those for so long? :mowdizzy
Luck?
Sweet. I stumbled across the first one by accident. I freaked for a bit thinking the PM count was the number of easter eggs. Somebody else pointed me to the page with the second egg.
Hooray for easter eggs, whether the be digital, dyed, or cream filled.
It's funny, I found one purely on a "I haven't noticed that there before" click, and now that I know there are two, I've spent hours looking for the second one, to no luck. Is it breaking the rules for someone to send me a PM telling me where they are? *bats eyelashes*
Forty-seven...
No, it's not against the rules to send PMs. Have a look at the page you found, and read closely. It specifies what is and is not against the rules in it...
Alright, so... a long time after Amber had told us about these secret pages, I forgot about them completly. One day, while going through the site, I found one of them. My reaction to the link was curiousity, then shock, and then love of that pic. My words were something along the lines of " OMG! [Censored]." I have been searching on and off for the other one.
I am tired and weary. Please either PM the links or the page's they're on.
Forty-eight.
I found one. All you do is ... (censored). he he.
And then i was like O My Gods! i found the second one, but it turned out to be nothing
I can't take anymore. *Sob.* I found one. And I can't find the other. Someone! Help! *Yet another person who joined the forum solely for help.*
*Steeples fingers*
Alright. I'm going for a middle ground here. I still want to *find* them on my own, I just want to know three things...
1: Is the link visually noticeable? Will I see it if I need to click it?
2: Are any of the eggs located in the archives?
Yes, the links are visually noticeable.
No, they are not in the archives.
And Forty-Nine.
is this a game for you Llearch?
... Currently we're at 25 for 49.
Yes, why do you ask? ;-]
Are you going to throw a party of some sort when you hit 100?
Of course he is, Volfram! Why else would he be counting? :)
Oh! I found them both! Juicy, juicy, juicy.
I had found the first one when all this was announced, but never found the second. I randomly decided to look for it again, and it was actually a pretty quick find this time!
I was definitely broadening my search a little -too- much before, but keeping one thing in mind helped me loads. Relations. Think relations, people.
(e.g. Alexsi is related to Dan, who likes cookies. Mab also likes cookies, therefor Mab must be trying to kill Dan and take over the universe! OH! UNIVERSE! I know exactly where that link would be! *click*)
I was expecting the first hidden page I found, sorta walked right to it. But the second took a bit of thinking. I was actually looking for things related to some other person whom is involved in the storyline that we know not much about when I found the second hidden page. Is there anyplace where people who have found the pages are discussing the information found within? There are quite a few questions about -blank- hitting my mind right now. With a hammer.
(Also, I could have sworn I recreated my account when the forums first moved. Was there a information wipe of some kind in my lurking absence of the forums?)
They're taboo, unfortunately. :x Sorry, can't be spoken of.
As for the account, unused ones get purged every now and again by the mods.
You can discuss the details, provided It's not on the foRum, Certainly. (there is a subtle hint in there somewhere.)
The accounts... any account with less than, oh, about 10 posts or so, that hasn't logged in for more than 6 months, is likely to be deleted on grounds of "well, they're really not that interested in the forum, are they?" sort of thing. If you don't want your account deleted, post a little, and turn up more often. ;-]
i take it i'm in no danger of that then. my account being considered unused that is.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 03, 2008, 03:30:47 PM
... Currently we're at 25 for 49.
Yes, why do you ask? ;-]
I didn't actually cave. I demand to be counted as .5
I further demand one meeeillion...
*Thunderbolt'd*
Yay! Found both of them, finally :boogie
Was about to create an account just to ask for a hint, but then I recalled one of my programming classes... If you want to find a certain word/phrase (like a password) and don't care how long it takes, there's a method called "brute forcing" it. Basically go through every combination until you find the answer. So that's what I did. I turn on some tetris music, and went through all the pages (leaving the archives for last or obvious reasons O_o) in order, looking at every link on every page. I found both of them within twenty minutes (total searching time: 45-60 minutes). In retrospect, the locations of both make quite a bit of sense, that much I'll say. It was fun and I enjoyed the reward. Even if I completely forgot about them until I poked my head into this place...
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
The best part was when I found out people were using stupid scripts to find them so I removed the links for a couple hours while they ran their searches.
Oh well. I guess next time I wont even bother letting there be an actual link but make people have to guess the word since people can't play nice. :V
Let me be first to say you're probably not the first to try this.
And of course, there are a few counter-measures that can be used to fight brute-force approaches. For example, make a link on a page that is white foreground and background and only a pixel in size. That way, it will only be found by a brute-force approach. Then when the user tries to access the page, have it display something like the following message: "You have triggered Black Ice. Prepare to die" with a countdown timer. You could also have the page log itself so that you can identify who did it. (Match the IP address used to access the page with the IP addresses used to place items in the forum.)
The person won't know it was logged, so when he receives an e-mail saying that he has been warned, he will be surprised.
This is known as a "honey pot".
Actually, when the person posts in the forum, it doesn't matter if they've viewed the page or not. Posting the content of the pages in the forum counts as an insta-ban, due to the warning on the pages themselves.
And setting up a honey pot is all well and good, but requires specialised knowledge to set up effectively - which Amber, being an artist, lacks. So... what would you rather? That Amber spends time working on images for the comic, or that Amber spends time learning how to set up a honey pot?
I know which one -I- prefer... ;-]
I wasn't indicating that Amber should set up a honey pot. What I wanted to indicate was that for those who think that they can circumvent things on the net, there are ways of detecting them. More of a theoretical/hypothetical situation.
Actually, I don't really view this approach as brute force. To me, brute force would be using combinatorial techniques to try to identify all possible names for web pages and to use that as a candidate for a search. For example, using all of the character names as the possible names of web pages, a brute-force technique that Amber obviously considered as she undertook the introduction of countermeasures.
Besides, Amber has a wealth of fans who would be willing to provide protective assistance, many of whom who I'm sure are far more devious than me.
heh. Granted, granted.
However, as forum admins, it's -our- responsibility to ensure that we've taken reasonable precautions to back Amber up. That's fair enough, isn't it?
After all, we wouldn't want you to say you hadn't been warned...