So... who's got this one preordered? I'm picking up my roomie's preordered copy from GameStop tomorrow and I'm getting my own preordered copy downloaded from Steam tomorrow.
I'm a little disappointed that they're not gonna follow the System Shock storyline, but after seeing all the reviews and videos, I think that this is gonna be one very interesting game.
Discuss?
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 20, 2007, 05:15:47 PM
So... who's got this one preordered? I'm picking up my roomie's preordered copy from GameStop tomorrow and I'm getting my own preordered copy downloaded from Steam tomorrow.
I'm a little disappointed that they're not gonna follow the System Shock storyline, but after seeing all the reviews and videos, I think that this is gonna be one very interesting game.
Discuss?
Eidos still owns the rights to system shock i think, Irrational dev'd SS2 in lieu of looking glass. however, it's still the spiritual successor to system shock.. i've played the demo on Xbox live, and it's wonderful to say the least. :3
It looks insanely good, but I don't have an Xbox360 or Windows, and I'm not planning to shell out hundreds of dollars to get it. :<
I must admit I totally lost interest when I found it wasn't part of the System Shock series :(
Oblivion is going to be my next game, I think.
i r getting.
Since my laptop won't run it well, I'm getting the 360 version. Should be fun, from what I've heard.
I dont really care for scary games, nor do I have an Xbox 360...but I confess after watching the demo and seeing the amount of work they put into the game, it is a game that would be very tempting if I wasnt a wimpy chicken heart. I'll likely get it for a friend and make him play it while I watch hiding behind a pillow fortress.
I'm curious about how in depth their claims are when it comes to interactivity and the diversity one can achieve when dealing with the environment and the AI. Outside of that, it does seem like a game hat should be able to stand on its own legs.
pillow fortress FTW. ;-]
Quote from: Amber Williams on August 21, 2007, 02:50:08 PM
Outside of that, it does seem like a game hat should be able to stand on its own legs.
Well, here's hoping they get it right this time. System Shock 1 and 2 were both critically-acclaimed and extremely well-thought out, and a rule, most people who played them for more than a few minutes rated them very highly. Unfortunately they didn't really sell. :rolleyes
It has been said that one reason for System Shock's failure was because it was released at the same time as a game called 'Creature Shock', which sucked, and people got them confused :P
The control system was a bit weird, mind you. Incredibly flexible, though.
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/gibbon2.gif)
Another reason that System Shock didn't sell was that it was released around the same time that some game called "Doom II" was released. :P
The failure of System Shock 2 to sell was odd, though. By then, SS had already been established as an underrated classic.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 21, 2007, 05:05:40 AM
I must admit I totally lost interest when I found it wasn't part of the System Shock series :(
Oblivion is going to be my next game, I think.
After playing it for awhile (damn Steam, first it wouldn't recognize that it had been released and then took another two hours to complete the preload, so I'm going off of 3 hours of playtime here) I've come to the conclusion that you can forget about being disappointed at the lack of SHODAN. Without spoiling too much, the only thing in this game that can be considered lame in any way is the hacking dialogue, which looks more like a game of Pipe Dream than anything else. Other than that, this is a truly awesome game. It's very deep, it's very scary, and if you've got any psychological background, the characters will more than impress you. I am loving this game.
Yes, I think you've already convinced me to try it, if it can be patched to work under W2K.
This game is gonna make me think..ALot
Ok Demo = win
Waiting till Friday to get my collectors ed = painful
I want my full game damnit :3
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 21, 2007, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on August 21, 2007, 02:50:08 PM
Outside of that, it does seem like a game hat should be able to stand on its own legs.
Well, here's hoping they get it right this time. System Shock 1 and 2 were both critically-acclaimed and extremely well-thought out, and a rule, most people who played them for more than a few minutes rated them very highly. Unfortunately they didn't really sell. :rolleyes
It has been said that one reason for System Shock's failure was because it was released at the same time as a game called 'Creature Shock', which sucked, and people got them confused :P
The control system was a bit weird, mind you. Incredibly flexible, though.
(http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/gibbon2.gif)
Both Bioshock and System shock 2 were made by irrational, so they do have a good pedigree
Quote from: Turnsky on August 22, 2007, 07:54:15 AM
Both Bioshock and System shock 2 were made by irrational, so they do have a good pedigree
No Warren Spector, though :(
He was a key part of the brains behind System Shock, Deus Ex, Ultima 7 and Serpent Isle. SS2 did well enough without him, mind.
I still say the guy in System Shock is an incubus. Doesn't eat, doesn't sleep and he can throw switches thirteen feet away (with his wing-tentacles?). He can fall any distance without getting hurt like he's got wings to glide with and if you look down, he has no feet which is just what you'd expect if you were poking a tentacle head in front of you as an advance guard >:3
Now about the demo in W2K. This is from Slashdot:
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=275107&cid=20301655
I've been working on getting it run under win2k for a while now:
'Release' folder == Progra~1\Steam\steamapps\common\bioshock demo\Builds\Release
1. dbghelp.dll must be downloaded from 'dll download sites' on the internet and dropped into 'Release'
2. You must hex edit xinput1_3.dll in 'Release' and replace the String 'TraceMessage' with 'GetUserNameA'. It simply forces the debug messages to be dropped on the ground, I think anyways.
Well I do hope see a demo where I can test my ablitys on those Big Daddies
Those Big Daddies will give you a run for your money, especially the ones with the rivet guns. They move slow, but man do they hit hard.
how i plan to pay for bioshock (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00771.jpg)
Is it wrong that I spent my time trying to figure out what was going on on the PC in the background?
... and recognised it as IRC?
... and recognised enough to identify that it wasn't -my- channel?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 23, 2007, 10:00:50 AM
Is it wrong that I spent my time trying to figure out what was going on on the PC in the background?
Perhaps. At first I thought it was a linux boot screen :P
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 23, 2007, 10:00:50 AM
Is it wrong that I spent my time trying to figure out what was going on on the PC in the background?
... and recognised it as IRC?
... and recognised enough to identify that it wasn't -my- channel?
perhaps, it's comicgen's IRC channel, by the way.. =p my client's configured to have white text on black background, less eye strain.
#keenspace on esper.net?
Ah, yet another network. I hope you won't take it amiss if I don't go there -just- now... ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 23, 2007, 10:42:28 AM
#keenspace on esper.net?
Ah, yet another network. I hope you won't take it amiss if I don't go there -just- now... ;-]
pretty much, and nah, just a bunch of webcomickers on there, nothing too much of interest goes on, 'cept when somebody logs on drunk
Quote from: Turnsky on August 23, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
nothing too much of interest goes on, 'cept when somebody logs on drunk
I've done that before. I also reviewed my eBay winnings while drunk. Reading a computer screen isn't very easy when you're suffering from alcohol induced tunnel vision.
I just got the 360 version of the game.
It seems to be a bit of a rehash of System Shock 2 so far, but it's oh so pretty. And since SS2 is great, a rehash of SS2 = also great.
The game isn't really scary, so much as creepy. Like the SS series, they're not going for the *SUDDEN MONSTER OMG* type scares, they're going for the "Oh god everyone is coming after me what do I do" scares. Which is nice.
Looks like we're not the only ones who like it. Reviews are starting to come in, and they're good.
http://www.dailygame.net/news/archives/006521.php
It think that says it all.
i have it, and i haveta say, even the presentation was nice, came in a nice tin DVD case, looked very nice... until i started to actually play it..
Pure awesome.
I've heard bad things about the copy protection system. Like it has to be activated online in order to run. (And damages the Windows installation in rootkit-like ways, but that's another story).
This makes me sad, not only because it means I won't be able to play it, but also because no-one will be able to play it in the future. There are games like the original System Shock and the Ultima series which are still damn good games 15 years later. I for one do not seriously think that the activation server is still going to be running 15 years from now.
I'm probably going to buy this thing. I have the Morrowind expansions and Oblivion to get through first... with luck someone will have cracked it by the time I get around to playing it.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 21, 2007, 09:26:28 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 21, 2007, 05:05:40 AM
I must admit I totally lost interest when I found it wasn't part of the System Shock series :(
Oblivion is going to be my next game, I think.
After playing it for awhile (damn Steam, first it wouldn't recognize that it had been released and then took another two hours to complete the preload, so I'm going off of 3 hours of playtime here) I've come to the conclusion that you can forget about being disappointed at the lack of SHODAN. Without spoiling too much, the only thing in this game that can be considered lame in any way is the hacking dialogue, which looks more like a game of Pipe Dream than anything else. Other than that, this is a truly awesome game. It's very deep, it's very scary, and if you've got any psychological background, the characters will more than impress you. I am loving this game.
yes, would you kindly not spoil it for the other folks. >:3
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 25, 2007, 03:17:32 AM
I've heard bad things about the copy protection system. Like it has to be activated online in order to run. (And damages the Windows installation in rootkit-like ways, but that's another story).
This makes me sad, not only because it means I won't be able to play it, but also because no-one will be able to play it in the future. There are games like the original System Shock and the Ultima series which are still damn good games 15 years later. I for one do not seriously think that the activation server is still going to be running 15 years from now.
I'm probably going to buy this thing. I have the Morrowind expansions and Oblivion to get through first... with luck someone will have cracked it by the time I get around to playing it.
Doesn't it just use the normal Steam installation system?
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 25, 2007, 11:41:14 AM
Doesn't it just use the normal Steam installation system?
I thought Steam was like apt-get install for games. Either way it's no good to me since the Windows box is permanently offline as a security measure.
Ive heard the general reviews are postive, a little video I saw looked good and the game looked interesting.
I wont' be buying it in the near future, need a new pc. No fan of the drm/activation either, though you know there will be a 'patch'
A bit of info on the drm: (with theregister's spin of course)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/24/draconian_bioshock_drm_eased/
I got the 360 version, so I don't know about any of that.
I'm at Fort Frolic right now, and am greatly enjoying the game.
Quote from: rt on August 25, 2007, 12:44:05 PM
I wont' be buying it in the near future, need a new pc. No fan of the drm/activation either, though you know there will be a 'patch'
I'm going to wait until then, I think. So far all they've done is increase the number of possible activations from two (!) to five, and allowed it to be installed on up to five different machines (the point of which is what...?)
I like the guy whose PC exploded though. A year or so ago there were a team of reviewers who were so fed up with overinflated wattage figures on PSUs that they put together a test harness to draw the rated amount of power to see if the supply really could handle 500w. They tested about a dozen and about two actually could. Several of them did indeed fail catastrophically, so it's not impossible that the game overstressed his system. After all, Oblivion would melt the xbox 360...
I've actually heard that Oblivion on the 360 is quite good. Hopefully, as that's probably my next purchase.
Bad news about Bioshock for widescreen fans:
Instead of true widescreen, Bioshock crops the top and bottom off (http://kotaku.com/gaming/sad-panda/levines-replies-to-bioshock-widescreen-cropping-292071.php).
Game completely ruined IMO.
Thing is...Who cares about widescreen..Not me
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 25, 2007, 11:53:54 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 25, 2007, 11:41:14 AM
Doesn't it just use the normal Steam installation system?
I thought Steam was like apt-get install for games. Either way it's no good to me since the Windows box is permanently offline as a security measure.
Speaking of Steam... I bought it on Steam because they advertised "Preload it and play it as soon as it comes out!" So I preloaded it. It didn't take but a few hours, and I did that the night before the release. So I sat and I watched the clock tick down to 0:00:00 and then it changed to "Play it now"! ... And when I clicked on it, it said for me to wait until it was released... 20 minutes later it started unlocking the content, which took another 15 minutes... and as it turned out the "Preload" was just the first 79% of the game. Two hours after the release, I finally was able to play it.
Okay, I got to Central Control. That was awesome.
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 28, 2007, 12:05:26 AM
Okay, I got to Central Control. That was awesome.
Hephaestus core? or just beyond that?
tell me, would you kindly. >:3
Quote from: Turnsky on August 28, 2007, 12:49:45 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 28, 2007, 12:05:26 AM
Okay, I got to Central Control. That was awesome.
Hephaestus core? or just beyond that?
tell me, would you kindly. >:3
I dont like that look in your eye..
Quote from: Zedd on August 28, 2007, 05:51:18 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on August 28, 2007, 12:49:45 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 28, 2007, 12:05:26 AM
Okay, I got to Central Control. That was awesome.
Hephaestus core? or just beyond that?
tell me, would you kindly. >:3
I dont like that look in your eye..
which one? the right or the left? they're both different colors y'see.
No, I beat the Core and got to the awesome part. I'm in Olympus Heights now.
Are you rescuing or harvesting the little sisters?
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 28, 2007, 09:28:16 AM
Are you rescuing or harvesting the little sisters?
You have no idea what that looks like out of context :U
BTW, I saw the tin case. It's just like the
Company of Wolves special edition. I was kind of hoping it came in an 8mm film can or something. Now the question is, do I buy it and sit it on the shelf for years until I can make it run, or wait until it comes out on budget...
Actually, if you can make Oblivion run halfway decent, you shouldn't have any issues with Bioshock. I find that it runs better than Oblivion does on my machine.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 28, 2007, 09:39:16 AM
Actually, if you can make Oblivion run halfway decent, you shouldn't have any issues with Bioshock. I find that it runs better than Oblivion does on my machine.
Yeah, I just bought Oblivion. Haven't got it home yet. The big problem with Bioshock is the fact that Windows talks to the internet over my dead body.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 28, 2007, 09:28:16 AM
Are you rescuing or harvesting the little sisters?
Rescuing. Really, you still get lots of juice either way, especially when you get a teddy.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 28, 2007, 09:45:09 AM
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 28, 2007, 09:39:16 AM
Actually, if you can make Oblivion run halfway decent, you shouldn't have any issues with Bioshock. I find that it runs better than Oblivion does on my machine.
Yeah, I just bought Oblivion. Haven't got it home yet. The big problem with Bioshock is the fact that Windows talks to the internet over my dead body.
You could always get a 360. >:3
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 28, 2007, 11:24:34 AM
You could always get a 360. >:3
Nowhere to put it. In any case I think $550 is a bit much for one game.
Well, I've already finished it. I think it might have multiple endings, depending on if you rescue or harvest the little sisters.
I really like the game. Definitly my tops for the year, along with STALKER.
My main complaint, though, is that it's too linear. There's only one instance where you backtrack to a previous level. I would have liked to have it been more open-ended, but it's still a fantastic game.
Come to think of it, SS2 wasn't that non-linear either, once you got to Hydro, excepting when you went down to Deck 1 to press a button.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 28, 2007, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 28, 2007, 11:24:34 AM
You could always get a 360. >:3
Nowhere to put it. In any case I think $550 is a bit much for one game.
I effectively bought my 360 for Bioshock, so...
Dead Rising is also strangely addictive, but that's for another thread.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08/26/bioshock_activation_will_be_removed/1
Good news for Mister Tape.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08/23/the_truth_behind_bioshock_copy_protection/1
Even more good news. Seems it only connects the first time.
Of course, for us Steam users, we don't have to deal with this stuff.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on August 29, 2007, 01:20:01 PM
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08/23/the_truth_behind_bioshock_copy_protection/1
Even more good news. Seems it only connects the first time.
Of course, for us Steam users, we don't have to deal with this stuff.
even more so for me:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/DSC00772.jpg)
Unless your steam completely screws up when it's in offline mode, like mine does. :<
Offline mode works just fine for me.
Quote from: BillBuckner on August 29, 2007, 12:45:51 PM
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08/26/bioshock_activation_will_be_removed/1
Good news for Mister Tape.
"I believe people deserve to play the game."No der. These problems that have come up are things they had to know would be issues. I mean, really. The ycould have talked to any 20 year old who knows anything about computers, and been told they were being retarded with the limited number of installations alone, reguardless of how many times you're able to do it.
I've gotten into the habit of reinstalling windows once or twice a year, which would leave me unable to install my copy of the game in the long-run, and that's utterly retarded.
In any case, I still don't even own the game yet. I've been dealing with a pretty tight budget the last few months. Plus I still need to upgrade my PC. >_<
I need more rma and a better video card. Probably won't see Bioshock running smooth on this PC 'till november or december. :/
Is it scarier than F.E.A.R.?
It had better be. F.E.A.R. didn't scare as much as intrigue.
I wouldn't say it's scarier than FEAR... or even scarier than Doom 3, but it definitely has that feeling of... if you were really there, there'd be a mysterious brick in your underwear.
Quote from: Ryudo Lee on September 10, 2007, 02:04:47 PM
I wouldn't say it's scarier than FEAR... or even scarier than Doom 3, but it definitely has that feeling of... if you were really there, there'd be a mysterious brick in your underwear.
wear your brown trousers.
Just tried the demo. By the gods it's nifty. Right up my alley too.
A few quotes while me and a buddy discussed the demo:
"Is that a ****ing whale?"
"Hey, let's break this plane of glass!"
"Wonder what happens when I shock the puddle I'm standing in."
"So this is what being God feels like." (Discussing the incinerate plasmid.)
Quote from: The DXM on September 13, 2007, 07:56:24 PM
"Wonder what happens when I shock the puddle I'm standing in."
amazing idea
Quote from: BillBuckner on September 13, 2007, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: The DXM on September 13, 2007, 07:56:24 PM
"Wonder what happens when I shock the puddle I'm standing in."
amazing idea
Make it a thunderstorm and it will perfect