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Title: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Chaos on July 28, 2007, 03:27:50 PM
As the title suggests, I'm feeling productive, and I've added another project to my long list o' stuff. What I need from you guys is the following.

Who are you favorite villains from any form of media? No matter the source, no matter the reasons, who is your favorite bad guy?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 03:30:51 PM
Shouldn't this be in the Villa or the Outer Fortress, or if this is something having to do with some form of artistic expression, like music or writing, the Tower of Art?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Fuyudenki on July 28, 2007, 04:45:33 PM
Sephiroth.

Dilandau, Folken, Knives, The Laughing Man.

Stonehenge, the Homonculi from FMA, the Covenant, Orochi, the Collossai.

Hyo Imuwara, Dr. Ivo Robotnik, Busuzima the Chameleon.

Aniz.

The Protectorate of Menoth, the Cryx, and the nation of Khador.

The Necron and the Tyrranid.

The Zerg.

The Galactic Guard, and the Galactic Empire.

The Chosen, especially Celesteo Morgan, The Infernomancer, the Pipingradians.

Space pirates, Gannondorf Dragmire, SA-X and the rest of the X parasite, the Metroids.

Let's see if I can think of more later.
note: these villains come from a vast variety of universes.  Context available on request.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: superluser on July 28, 2007, 04:46:45 PM
Favorite bad guy?

I just watched Zodiac last night.  He's sort of real, but the Zodiac made stuff up, so he's kind of fictional.  That guy was scary.

As to completely fictional, how about Iago?  Cold, calculating, doing it for no apparent reason...  The sniper from Three Days of the Condor is interesting, too.  He's simply a mercenary with no particular allegiance, but who has total loyalty to his profession.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 04:47:57 PM
You forgot one, Raist.

Drip.

'Nuff said.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 28, 2007, 04:48:39 PM
Keyser Freaking Soze.






Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Fuyudenki on July 28, 2007, 05:02:49 PM
Venom and Carnage, Agent Smith, the Flood, the Combine, Headcrabs and Zombies.

Xion the Unborn, Phyrexians, Mishra.

Dare you to ask me for my favorite heroes.

Quote from: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 04:47:57 PM
You forgot one, Raist.

Drip.

'Nuff said.
I don't read that comic, I'm exempt from answering Drip.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 05:05:49 PM
Half the stuff you mentioned I've never even heard of, but you don't know about Drip?!?!? :erk
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Manawolf on July 28, 2007, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 04:47:57 PM
You forgot one, Raist.

Drip.

'Nuff said.

Got to it before me.  Envy should be up their as well, though.  Both are from Jack.

I'd also like to put up Graz'zt, Orcus, Mephistopheles, and Asmodeus from D&D.

Let's try noting what games and such these villains are from, to cut down on confusion.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Fuyudenki on July 28, 2007, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 05:05:49 PM
Half the stuff you mentioned I've never even heard of, but you don't know about Drip?!?!? :erk

I know about Drip, but since I don't read the comic, he doesn't exactly come to the forefront of my mind when listing villains.  Also, given a lack of context for most of my villains, their identity is often ambiguous at best, unless you've actually obsessed over the universes they're from, like I have.  I can picture their faces in my head, though, if I want.  Unless, like the Warmachine factions listed, they don't exactly have faces.  These are largely villains from games, who I have personally fought against(and occasionally, played as) as a PC.

Noble Jagara, Ryu.(I know Ryu is technically a hero, but my experience has been that he's a fireball-spamming jerk.)

Yellow 13 and his wingmates.


Manawolf:

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Sephiroth.
Final Fantasy 7
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Dilandau, Folken, Knives, The Laughing Man.
Escaflowne, Escaflowne, Trigun, Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex
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Stonehenge, the Homonculi from FMA, the Covenant, Orochi, the Collossai.
Ace Combat 4, Fullmetal Alchemist, Halo, Okami, Shadow of the Colossus
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Hyo Imuwara, Dr. Ivo Robotnik, Busuzima the Chameleon.
Rival Schools, Sonic the Hedgehog, Bloody Roar
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Aniz.
Dan and Mab's Furrae Adventures(we all know this one, only provided for completeness)
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The Protectorate of Menoth, the Cryx, and the nation of Khador.
Warmachine, Warmachine, and Warmachine
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The Necron and the Tyrranid.
Warhammer 40K, and the same.
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The Zerg.
Starcraft
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The Galactic Guard, and the Galactic Empire.
Star Wars, both.
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The Chosen, especially Celesteo Morgan, The Infernomancer, the Pipingradians.
Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, same, same, Sequential Art
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Space pirates, Gannondorf Dragmire, SA-X and the rest of the X parasite, the Metroids.
Metroid, Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Metroid
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Noble Jagara, Ryu.
Wolf's Rain, Street Fighter
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Yellow 13 and his wingmates.
Ace Combat 4
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Venom and Carnage, Agent Smith, the Flood, the Combine, Headcrabs and Zombies.
Spiderman and Spiderman, The Matrix, Halo, Half-Life 2, Half-life 2, and Half-Life 2
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Xion the Unborn, Phyrexians, Mishra.
Bloody Roar, Magic: The Gathering, Magic: The Gathering

happy?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Zina on July 28, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Someone doesn't know about a character from a furry online comic? UNHEARD OF.

That being said, I loved Kakihara(But I don't know if he was really a villian), Xanatos, Sadako, Samara, Jareth and Pyramid Head.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Manawolf on July 28, 2007, 05:39:03 PM
You list the Empire from Star Wars but not the Sith (or at leas the dark jedi who call themselves the Sith)?  Play some KOTOR to see these evil bastards in action.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Fuyudenki on July 28, 2007, 05:41:11 PM
Quote from: Zina on July 28, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Someone doesn't know about a furry comic online? UNHEARD OF.

Once again, I know about it.  I've even read the first 10 pages.  It just didn't hold any interest for me after that, and I don't feel like going back and reading several years' worth of archives for several hundred comic pages, just to remember after page 10 why I still don't read it.  Jagara eats wolf meat and drinks wolf blood just to be mean to the wolves, that's about as evil a character as I'm interested in meeting.

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You list the Empire from Star Wars but not the Sith (or at leas the dark jedi who call themselves the Sith)?  Play some KOTOR to see these evil bastards in action.

working on it.  Actually, one of my RP characters is a Sith-era assassin droid, not entirely unlike HK-47.(based on HK, actually.)  His name is Hackbot.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Cogidubnus on July 28, 2007, 05:42:26 PM
The Aes Sedai.

Not just the bad ones. All of them. Except Egwene al'Vere.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Zina on July 28, 2007, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Raist on July 28, 2007, 05:41:11 PM
Quote from: Zina on July 28, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Someone doesn't know about a furry comic online? UNHEARD OF.

Once again, I know about it.  I've even read the first 10 pages.  It just didn't hold any interest for me after that, and I don't feel like going back and reading several years' worth of archives for several hundred comic pages, just to remember after page 10 why I still don't read it.  Jagara eats wolf meat and drinks wolf blood just to be mean to the wolves, that's about as evil a character as I'm interested in meeting.

Sarcasm, bro. Sarcasm.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 28, 2007, 05:47:35 PM
Run, if you know what's good for you, run!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Nurse_Ratched.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Chaos on July 28, 2007, 05:53:32 PM
Excellant. This gives me pleanty to work on... Keep it up.

And sorry for placing the thread in the wrong form, Didn't think of it when I was at work.   :rolleyes

*Looks up*

RATCHET!!!!
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 28, 2007, 05:54:50 PM
Ratched tbh


also
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Misery-annie.jpg)
imo
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Kenji on July 28, 2007, 05:57:51 PM
Kuja from FF9. Because he destroyed an entire planet just because he got mad.

Lucifer from Star Ocean 3. Because he kills himself in the process of trying to stop a video game.

Ghaleon from Lunar: Silver Star Story and Lunar: Eternal Blue. Because he only wanted to conquer the world to bring order and peace to it, and on his giant mobile tower of death he had a peaceful happy garden full of fairies that he visits and takes care of every day.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: TheGreyRonin on July 28, 2007, 06:30:03 PM
 Interesting idea.

Mornedealth Falconbane (The Mage Winds Trilogy/Mercedes Lackey).

John Dread (the Otherland series/Tad Williams).

Diogenes Pendergast (Dance Of Death/Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child).

The Moties (The Mote In God's Eye/ Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle).

And depending on your definition of villain: Joachim Steuben (Hammer's Slammers series/ David Drake).

The Moties are a thinking man's nightmare, and Joachim is the only fictional character I think I'd back down from in a fight under any circumstances. Especially with firearms.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: KarlOmega1 on July 28, 2007, 06:45:45 PM
Rico (Judge Dredd)

Megatron (Transformers)

Starscream (Transformers)

Sideways (Transformers)

Galvatron (Transformers)

Andross (StarFox)

Borg Queen (Star Trek)

Darth Vader (Star Wars)

Diablo (Diablo series, by Blizzard/Blizzard North)

Baal (Diablo series, by Blizzard/Blizzard North)

See a pattern here?

Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Jack McSlay on July 28, 2007, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: Raist on July 28, 2007, 05:12:37 PM
QuoteAniz.
Dan and Mab's Furrae Adventures(we all know this one, only provided for completeness)
Come to think of it... Aniz-zinA (would there be any relation?)

But I like kria better anyway
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Zina on July 28, 2007, 07:02:45 PM
Quote from: Jack McSlay on July 28, 2007, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: Raist on July 28, 2007, 05:12:37 PM
QuoteAniz.
Dan and Mab's Furrae Adventures(we all know this one, only provided for completeness)
Come to think of it... Aniz-zinA (would there be any relation?)

But I like kria better anyway

He's my evil twin.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Sunblink on July 28, 2007, 08:29:11 PM
I used to really like Drip, but after a certain incident which caused him to be pretty much lynched in almost everyone's minds, I sort of abandoned any "Okay, this is a really awesome villain" for "MUST... KILL!"-ness.

Plus, I find Sephiroth somewhat overrated. You are all free to kill me.

Off the top of my head, here are my favorite villains:

And most of all...

Tira from Soul Calibur III and IV. Someone needs to make a shrine to her. No, fuck that, I'll BUILD IT.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Magic on July 28, 2007, 08:43:56 PM
I love all villains.

..what?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Zedd on July 28, 2007, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: Ink on July 28, 2007, 08:43:56 PM
I love all villains.

..what?

Does that mean you love yourself? *smirks*
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Arcalane on July 28, 2007, 08:55:28 PM
Kane. "ONE MISSION! ONE PURPOSE!"

CABAL. "...as always, the human element is riddled with imperfection."

SHODAN. "H-h-how can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?"

'nuff said.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 28, 2007, 08:29:11 PM
I used to really like Drip, but after a certain incident which caused him to be pretty much lynched in almost everyone's minds,

~Keaton the Black Jackal
What incident are you referring to? Drip has done innumerable things that could instigate a lynching :lynched
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: superluser on July 28, 2007, 11:57:18 PM
(Iago is from Othello, for those of you who won't get off my lawn)

Here are a few more:

- The Officer (from Kafka's In the Penal Colony)
- Mrs. Iselin (from the Manchurian Candidate.  More of a fun character than a favorite villain)
- Trevor Goodchild (from the Æon Flux series)
- Brick Top, Bullet Tooth Tony, and Boris the Blade (Snatch)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on July 29, 2007, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreyRonin on July 28, 2007, 06:30:03 PM
John Dread (the Otherland series/Tad Williams).

"Confident, cocky, lazy, dead." Dread's one of the few villains I really turned out hating in literature. Usually I'm pretty ambivalent about them.

Others that have already been mentioned: Kane and CABAL of the C&C series, Trevor Goodchild of Aeon Flux.

And because I only recently got it, bonus points to the comic/game entity The Darkness. "The little ones burn, Jackie... such delightful torment of the body and soul..."
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Turnsky on July 29, 2007, 03:39:17 AM
Alma Wade, Zero Wing Pixy, The Glorious Strategist, The thing (john carpenter version), Muro, aaaand Makaan


Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 29, 2007, 03:58:12 AM
Quote from: TheGreyRonin on July 28, 2007, 06:30:03 PM
The Moties (The Mote In God's Eye/ Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle).

The Moties are a thinking man's nightmare, and Joachim is the only fictional character I think I'd back down from in a fight under any circumstances. Especially with firearms.

Granted Joachim. Especially with the White Mice to back him up - but then, pretty much anyone in that entire team are not to be messed with.

As for the Moties... I don't think they're villains, per se. They're doing what they do because that's what they are, nothing more, nothing less. Granted, they're a thinking man's nightmare, but that's not because they're inherently evil, and my personal call on it is that a true villain is -required- to be evil.

And, given that, Joachim -is-, if only because he goes out of his way to generate terror in his subordinates...
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Distracting on July 29, 2007, 04:18:31 AM
Yellow 13 (Ace Combat 04)

Goblin King (Labyrinth)

Snape (Harry Potter)
(would he really count?)

Orochi (Okami)

Lord Cutler Beckett (Pirates of the Caribbean)

The Laughing Man (Ghost in the Shell)

Dracula (the book Dracula)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: TheGreyRonin on July 29, 2007, 05:07:58 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 29, 2007, 03:58:12 AM

As for the Moties... I don't think they're villains, per se. They're doing what they do because that's what they are, nothing more, nothing less. Granted, they're a thinking man's nightmare, but that's not because they're inherently evil, and my personal call on it is that a true villain is -required- to be evil.

True, but by that definition, the critters in Alien aren't villains either. Also, villains often do not see themselves as evil; we deem them so by their intents and actions, but that's just our viewpoint.

It's why I have such a short list on here. Joachim, John, and Diogenes all qualify from nearly any viewpoint. I'd have to delve into my own creations to find very many that fit the bill and hadn't already been mentioned.

(And you know Joachim. You gain even more respect in my eyes, Sir Box.)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Slavkei on July 29, 2007, 08:08:51 AM
Ghost in the Shell spoilers!

The Laughing Man is not a villain. He's a HERO. Everyone just ASSUMES he's a villain, horribly incorrectly. But he's always on the good side.

Also, Joachim Armister from Castlevania: Lament of Innocence.

He was just hardcore. "I'll rule the WORLD! But first, I'll kill you!" and even more bonus points because he's playable.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 29, 2007, 08:26:18 AM
Robo-Hitler from Wolfenstein 3D.  :U
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Sunblink on July 29, 2007, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on July 28, 2007, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 28, 2007, 08:29:11 PM
I used to really like Drip, but after a certain incident which caused him to be pretty much lynched in almost everyone's minds,

~Keaton the Black Jackal
What incident are you referring to? Drip has done innumerable things that could instigate a lynching :lynched

Well, true. But I'm referring to a particularly terrible incident that I would go into more detail about, but I'm kind of worried about spoiling any events from the webcomic and inciting some potential Jack reader's rage.

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: KarlOmega1 on July 29, 2007, 01:02:12 PM
Khan - Star Trek II : The Wrath of Khan.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 29, 2007, 02:20:10 PM
Quote from: TheGreyRonin on July 29, 2007, 05:07:58 AM
True, but by that definition, the critters in Alien aren't villains either. Also, villains often do not see themselves as evil; we deem them so by their intents and actions, but that's just our viewpoint.

I wouldn't class them as villains, either. Unless as a sort of easy description, for someone who wasn't willing to spend the thought to come up with a decent summation.

They're the "bad side", but, as with many truly excellent bad sides, they're not evil in and of themselves - they just do what they do, and do it well.

Quote from: TheGreyRonin on July 29, 2007, 05:07:58 AM
It's why I have such a short list on here. Joachim, John, and Diogenes all qualify from nearly any viewpoint. I'd have to delve into my own creations to find very many that fit the bill and hadn't already been mentioned.

(And you know Joachim. You gain even more respect in my eyes, Sir Box.)

Heh. I think Lieutenant Arne Huber was my introduction to Major Steuben, as part of The Warmasters - which also introduced me to Midshipwoman Honor Harrington, as I recall.

I've been looking for more (of both), but haven't found as much as I'd like of Steuben. I -do- have rather a lot of Harrington, though...
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: superluser on July 29, 2007, 06:04:40 PM
Others:

- Howard W. Campbell Jr. (From Mother Night)
- Circe (Odyssey)
- Bill Lumbergh (Office Space)
- Mr. Hand (Dark City)

Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on July 29, 2007, 12:36:07 AMTrevor Goodchild of Aeon Flux.

I should point out that I specified the one from the series, not the film.  Trevor from the series was a fascinating character.  He was evil and brutal, and knew that he was evil and brutal, but he believed that he was doing what he had to--not what the people wanted, or what was for the greater good, but what his position required him to do.  The one from the film had a very different character.

And Robo-Hitler was easy to kill.  I think it was General Fettgesicht who was a dickens to kill.

Now, what is the OP doing with all of these villains?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Turnsky on July 30, 2007, 01:41:07 AM
to my mind, there's a few different classes of villian..

you have your a-typical evil villian
your bumbling variety of villian (dick dasterdly springs to mind)
Self serving, type, the ones that serve their own interests, can even perform an act for the greater good... should it be in their own interest, (xanatos is a good example)
Megolomanicas, evil for the sake of garnering more power and so forth.
mis-guided villians, who believe that they're doing a service for the greater good, even if they haveta pave a road to hell with their good intentions.
Villians who aren't... generally often seen as "the good guy" from the point of view of the people who serve them, often done with wars, etc in mind.

that's all i can think of right now.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on July 30, 2007, 05:08:14 AM
Quote from: superluser on July 29, 2007, 06:04:40 PM
I should point out that I specified the one from the series, not the film.  Trevor from the series was a fascinating character.  He was evil and brutal, and knew that he was evil and brutal, but he believed that he was doing what he had to--not what the people wanted, or what was for the greater good, but what his position required him to do.  The one from the film had a very different character.

...

You implied I watched the movie.

I am offended sir. I have taste, thank you very much.  :mowtongue

(Also, on the topic of the thread: Zabulon, of the Night Watch novels.)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: RJ on July 30, 2007, 05:21:02 AM
A lot of the villains from Pan's Labyrinth were amazingly freakish and well-thought out.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Ryudo Lee on July 30, 2007, 09:29:59 AM
I'm surprised that Bill is the only one going old-school here.  Lest we forget the classics.
Cobra Commander (GI Joe)
Megatron/Galvatron (Transformers)
Skeletor (He-Man)
Mum-ra (Thundercats)

And I'm surprised that no one's mentioned Kefka (FF6).  I thought he was pretty badass myself.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 30, 2007, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: superluser on July 29, 2007, 06:04:40 PM
And Robo-Hitler was easy to kill.  I think it was General Fettgesicht who was a dickens to kill.
It's the concept that counts. It's Hitler(!!!) in a fucking robot suit(!!!). General Whatever wasn't that much more difficult by himself, but the level he was on was insanely difficult, because of creative use of the floor-type that resulted in you being charged by every enemy in the whole level.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: superluser on July 30, 2007, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on July 30, 2007, 05:08:14 AMYou implied I watched the movie.

I am offended sir. I have taste, thank you very much.  :mowtongue

I don't think the film's as bad as people say.  Don't get me wrong; I think it's bad, just not that bad.  But there was a specific reason why I said ``from the series'' when I first mentioned him.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: TheDXM on July 30, 2007, 01:57:49 PM
Hannibal Lecter, before Hannibal Rising.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Chaos on July 30, 2007, 03:10:25 PM
Ok... Well

This is great, I have more then I need, and less. I con't ruin the project by telling you the end result, and the really crappy thing is that I am going on vacation, so I can't work on it till saturday most likey. (Worse still my scedual means that I'll only have sat to work on it.

Keep it up if you think of more, I'll be working on this as much as I can. (I will have some time tommorow before I leave.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Zina on July 30, 2007, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on July 30, 2007, 05:08:14 AM
Quote from: superluser on July 29, 2007, 06:04:40 PM
I should point out that I specified the one from the series, not the film.  Trevor from the series was a fascinating character.  He was evil and brutal, and knew that he was evil and brutal, but he believed that he was doing what he had to--not what the people wanted, or what was for the greater good, but what his position required him to do.  The one from the film had a very different character.

...

You implied I watched the movie.

I am offended sir. I have taste, thank you very much.  :mowtongue

(Also, on the topic of the thread: Zabulon, of the Night Watch novels.)

People...people watched the movie?
.....why? D:
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Fuyudenki on July 30, 2007, 06:14:35 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 29, 2007, 12:45:39 PM

Well, true. But I'm referring to a particularly terrible incident that I would go into more detail about, but I'm kind of worried about spoiling any events from the webcomic and inciting some potential Jack reader's rage.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

You can't be referring to me.  I may have too much free time, but not that much too much.  Let's hear what made you hate Drip.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 30, 2007, 09:01:24 PM
I have a question.

What's a "Vandle" ?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: KarlOmega1 on July 30, 2007, 09:26:45 PM
Voldemort- From the Harry Potter books/movies.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: superluser on July 30, 2007, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 30, 2007, 09:01:24 PMWhat's a "Vandle" ?

I *knew* that I wanted to comment on something in the thread.  I was at a laundromat once where there was a sign that proclaimed that there was a ``Reward for Reporting Theft or Vandelism.''  I bought a vinyl `A' from the hardware store and corrected the sign.

A few months later, it had been changed back.  I guess that laundromat owner was a villain I loved to hate.

As to those I love to hate--I'd have to say Major Nelson (at least in Dallas) and Erich von Stroheim.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: RJ on July 30, 2007, 10:38:51 PM
More people should read Barry Trotter... Terry Valumart, lol.

(Because seriously, that scene from The Dead Horse was awfully familiar after reading Deathly Hallows)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: JackLee1978 on July 31, 2007, 07:04:34 AM
(Moved to page 3)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Chaos on July 31, 2007, 08:35:08 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 30, 2007, 09:01:24 PM
I have a question.

What's a "Vandle" ?

A Spelling Error.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 31, 2007, 09:17:19 AM
Oh, yes. Spelling Errors are truly evil. ;-]

BTW, Jack Lee, that tripod image doesn't work all that well...
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Turnsky on July 31, 2007, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: JackLee1978 on July 31, 2007, 07:04:34 AM
Hans Gruber and The Sheriff of Nottingham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000614/bio)

Makoto Shishio, Rurouni Kenshin
Tenzen, Basilisk
Nakago, Fushigi Yūgi

One of the biggest villians in all of manga. Also it's my favorite manga.
(http://kuramalover2.tripod.com/berserk/grif02.jpg)



"image hosted by tripod"?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Sunblink on July 31, 2007, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: Raist on July 30, 2007, 06:14:35 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 29, 2007, 12:45:39 PM

Well, true. But I'm referring to a particularly terrible incident that I would go into more detail about, but I'm kind of worried about spoiling any events from the webcomic and inciting some potential Jack reader's rage.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

You can't be referring to me.  I may have too much free time, but not that much too much.  Let's hear what made you hate Drip.

Nonono, I was referring to any potential new reader in general. But alright, here's the spoiler:

Spoiler:


Drip molested and/or raped Fnar, Jack's little buddy, and later laughed about it in Jack's face. Thankfully, Jack pwned him up a few pages of ridicule and Drip-assholishness later.


End Spoiler

~Keaton the Black Jackal
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: techmaster-glitch on July 31, 2007, 07:05:54 PM
Oh, THAT incident. Yes, that was one of Drip's all-time worst acts he ever commited.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 31, 2007, 07:06:59 PM
Oh, that's just Drip being Drip. What a card!
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Kenji on July 31, 2007, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on July 31, 2007, 07:06:59 PM
Oh, that's just Drip being Drip. What a card!

That's our Drip. *canned laughter*
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on July 31, 2007, 08:36:05 PM
"Oh, it's a delightfully whimsical rape!"  :)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Fuyudenki on July 31, 2007, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 31, 2007, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: Raist on July 30, 2007, 06:14:35 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on July 29, 2007, 12:45:39 PM

Well, true. But I'm referring to a particularly terrible incident that I would go into more detail about, but I'm kind of worried about spoiling any events from the webcomic and inciting some potential Jack reader's rage.

~Keaton the Black Jackal

You can't be referring to me.  I may have too much free time, but not that much too much.  Let's hear what made you hate Drip.

Nonono, I was referring to any potential new reader in general. But alright, here's the spoiler:

Spoiler:


Drip molested and/or raped Fnar, Jack's little buddy, and later laughed about it in Jack's face. Thankfully, Jack pwned him up a few pages of ridicule and Drip-assholishness later.


End Spoiler

~Keaton the Black Jackal

Ah.  Yeah, that's pretty vile.  I thought Fnar was the star of the comic.

That's the results of reading only 10 pages, I guess.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: techmaster-glitch on July 31, 2007, 10:22:38 PM
No, Jack is the "star" of the comic, so to speak. Another thing that comes from only reading ten pages.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Brunhidden on August 01, 2007, 03:47:31 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 30, 2007, 09:01:24 PM
I have a question.

What's a "Vandle" ?

assuming it had been spelled correctly this would fit in the spectrum of the Germanic tribes who sacked Rome.

other Germanic tribes included the vistigoths, gauls, franks, (no, Rome was not invaded by guys named frank and EMO freaks wearing too much makeup) and the hardcore germans who never really needed an excuse like a tribal attack to join in on a little raiding. closer to the renaissance the invasion of Italy was more or less a summer pastime.



on my own note i am appalled that i haven't seen the Auditors on this list yet.

QuoteIn the Norse mythology Loki originally was on the side of the rest of the gods, helping them once or twice using a particularly nast forms of trickery. He was a cunning negotiator with a talent for technicalities. He was sort of the Norse equivalent of a lawyer, no doubt the reason they tied him down in a pit dripping acidic venom on him.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: JackLee1978 on August 01, 2007, 05:29:21 AM
(Sorry for the previous post problem)
Hans Gruber and The Sheriff of Nottingham (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000614/bio)

Makoto Shishio, Rurouni Kenshin
Tenzen, Basilisk
Nakago, Fushigi Yūgi

One of the biggest villians in all of manga. Also it's my favorite manga.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h197/JackLee1978/griffith.jpg)

Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Angel on August 01, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
Mmmm. I love these topics. (purrs) In no particular order...

The Juppongatana, Rurouni Kenshin (Particularly Soujiro and Shishio)
The Millennium Earl, D.Gray-Man
Rip van Winkle of Millennium, Hellsing (I felt bad for her, the way she died...)
Freddy Krueger, Nightmare on Elm Street

And, although I'm not sure if he really counts, Hannibal Lecter. He's just cool. He reminds me of my grandfather, if he had the heart to be sadistic and a cannibal. Rene taught me almost everything interesting I know - Greek mythology, Latin, literature... He's the reason I like intellectual characters like Hannibal, or even Dr. House.

EDIT: I forgot one! Dr. Muraki from Yami no Matsuei. I can't hate him. I just can't. He's too pretty and sadistic and cool... Mmm.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: TheDXM on August 07, 2007, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on July 31, 2007, 10:22:38 PM
No, Jack is the "star" of the comic, so to speak. Another thing that comes from only reading ten pages.

Both of them are introduced in the first ten pages, and since Fnar is first in the order of appearance it's pretty easy to mix that up. I did for the longest time. Fnar is definately not a supporting role for the first portion of the story either.

But back to the villians.

Quote
Black_angel:
Although I'm not sure if he really counts, Hannibal Lecter. He's just cool. He reminds me of my grandfather, if he had the heart to be sadistic and a cannibal. Rene taught me almost everything interesting I know - Greek mythology, Latin, literature... He's the reason I like intellectual characters like Hannibal, or even Dr. House.

Beat you to him, =P

Hannibal is absolutely a villian in the first two books from my point of view, he just happens to have an odd sense of justice you can just taste but in Hannibal rising you definately lose that sense. That's one of things that made it dissappointing for me, because Hannibal regains all that humanity you think he isn't supposed to have.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Psy-Kosh on August 10, 2007, 02:19:52 AM
Dolores Umbridge from the Potterverse. (I don't encounder that many fictional chars that really inspire that much hate... She's really earned her villianry...)

"Mr. Saxon" from the Whoniverse. (Whimsical playful evil...)

The Boss of Ubersoft.

Trudy from GPF.

"Flaming Prince" and "revenge guy" (dun remember what he's actually called) from Van Von Hunter (Been a while since I've peeked at that comic... probably should again.)

Mr. Teatime from Hogfather

Actually, can't forget _The_ Discworld villains above all others: The Auditors.
(Hrmm... I wonder how a Auditor vs Sourcerer battle would turn out...)

That's all I can think of for now.

Oh, Special Honorable mention:

A relatively common theme is the "reformed villain."

I met a real life one once. I can't remember the guy's name, but he used to more or less be a propagandist/recruiter for some neo-nazi organization (or some hate group that at least strongly modeled those ideas. I forget the specific specifics)

Anyways, to make a long story short, some of there stuff eventually hit a bit closer to home, leading to him having a really really long think, concluding that stuff is evil.

Now he basically goes around preaching tolerance, educating people on the internal workings of these groups and the psych of it (since he used to actually believe it) and more or less tries to make up for the damage he's caused by trying to help people understand how to fight these hate groups.
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Chaos on August 17, 2007, 03:08:10 PM
So, just so you don't think I've puttered out, I have found that htis is a lareger undertaking then first thought.

The inspiration for this was the urge to play evil genius, just to listen to the music. I looked around for villinous aamusic lists, and found a spy music list that only tempted me. The spy music did nothing to fill me with the increadable sense of power that drives my dreams of world domina... um... my dreams of flower arrangments. So I want to Make one.

Now I find myself trying to educate myself on 75% of the people mentioned in this thread. 20% I'm trying to find if they have theme music. Then I need to find a good arrangment.


mmm... Dancing Mad... mmmm


Mwahahahahahahahahaha!
:mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: TheGreyRonin on August 20, 2007, 10:13:35 AM
 I'd be very interested to see what music you'd assign Joachim Steuben. Something martial with dashes of madness, perhaps?
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Zedd on August 21, 2007, 01:11:33 PM
Maybe no one will mention him but he will still be my favorite...Little Slugger aka..Shoen Bat! Even if he wasnt really a bady deep down
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Eowyn on August 21, 2007, 01:45:14 PM
What Eowyn types- orgbuohdjbnkvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvoootttttttttrrooooonnnnnn

What Eowyn says- Bad, badguy. VOLTRON!

What Eowyn means- how about the three bad guys from Voltron? Voltron kicks butt!
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to Hate
Post by: Zorro on August 22, 2007, 12:48:35 AM
Well.....   Hannibal Lechter always had good taste in picking people!     :yasrsly
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: bill on August 22, 2007, 02:53:40 PM
Avon Barksdale and Stringer Bell. Also Omar Little, though he's not really a villain.
(The Wire)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Caswin on August 22, 2007, 07:30:07 PM
Doctor Doom - He's really quotable (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four_(1994_TV_series)#Season_Two).

David Xanatos - All he's lacking is comeuppance.

Slade, animated version - Where's my exposition?  I want exposition!

Number One - Retro villainy.  Points for actually being defeated for good.

Farmer Brown - From "Critters".  No, really, he was cool.

Derek Powers - "And behold, there shall be a blight upon the land..."

Agent Bennett - Is he really a villain?  Whatever he is, from my experience, he's cool.

Megabyte - Tony Jay, you are missed.

Lord of Mishap - This guy. (http://www.splendad.com/ads/show/1057-Farmers-Help-Point-Lord-of-Mishap)
Title: Re: I'm Feeling Productive (Dear God!) AKA Villains, Vandles & those we love to
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on August 23, 2007, 03:46:56 AM
Aion, of Chrono Crusade, at least his anime incarnation. The first character who ever made me keep thinking "He's so charming and intelligent, but what a bastard he is..."