The title says it all. I can only wonder this:
WTF is Aniz MADE OF? My God, if I were hit by a freakin' stool I would've gone down crying like a baby. One can only wonder what he's capable of, but... I wonder what he's going to do to Abel. His claws are extended, after all, and the look on his face only says baaaad things.
Surely he couldn't hurt the apparent only reason he's been holding up his charade?
And now I sleeeep. *thud*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Well I think that answers some of our questions about how well angry Abel would do against Aniz :erk
(Though I'm probably gonna regret all the speculation this is gonna cause...)
"Fa'Lina is likely to get on my case as is..."
Wonder why? Is Aniz supposed to take Abel to the Academy? Or is he supposed to be there in the first place? *goes to her speculation-proof shelter*
Wow. Abel is in trouble....
Yeah, Abel finally grew a spine. Of coarse, it's about to be painfully ripped out of his body. I wonder if May is going to be injured or killed trying to defend Abel from Aniz?
Well, he obviously can't KILL Abel... or take away his reproductive capabilities for that matter.
Counterproductive and all that.
Well looks like Aniz was really going for the extra credit here. Kill off an adventurer and take over his life for 25 years then do an evil speech as your child finally matures as a cubi, problem is he failed on his speech. So yeah he's probably gonna get a B in the "ruin everyones lives" class at most. :U
You stupid Abel, things were going just fine until you hit him with your damn stool...
The interesting thing is that Aniz appears pleased that Abel attacked him. I'm beginning to think that the whole point of his behavior was to see if Abel could be provoked into attacking him. He seems to be testing Abel, but there is no hint as to what constitutes pass or fail, or what the results will be. Perhaps he wants to see if Abel is tough enough to survive SAIA. The next few weeks should be very interesting.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on June 09, 2007, 12:12:48 AM
:mowmeep You stupid Abel, things were going just fine until you hit him with your damn stool...
:) You should have tried something with a bit more clought, like clapping a couple of bricks with his head between, or maybe a few selective,kicks, punches, or just rammed him into a wall or down a stepwelll ...
:rolleyes Many may have noticed that Abel is less than enthused about his father and the rest of the Cubi race. If he was forced to Saia, he probably become all stubborn and not learn a thing. What Aniz may be doing with Fa'lina, is to get to Abel a less obnoxious teacher of the Cubi ways, ( do we have a Destina here yet ? ), and have Abel taught as an 'extension' student at his own home ...
I figured Fa'Lina would be mentioned sooner or later, but I didn't expect that from Aniz.
Go on, Abel! Wap him again! :U
Wow that was something alright....Yet was it really worth it?
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 09, 2007, 12:22:23 AM
I figured Fa'Lina would be mentioned sooner or later, but I didn't expect that from Aniz.
Go on, Abel! Wap him again! :U
Oh yeah, cuz the first one did SOOOO much damage :erk
Quote from: Shego2Drakken on June 08, 2007, 11:57:29 PM
"Fa'Lina is likely to get on my case as is..."
I've been wondering about this as well. Could Aniz's little games be the sort of thing that Fa'lina would smack someone down for, whether or not they're a SAIA student? I was thinking in particular of the Cubi Wars, way back when — if this was one of the reasons for them, wouldn't she do anything to prevent another disastrous war?
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
Furniture makes surprisingly poor weaponry.
...
He should have gone for the ottoman. That might have helped. :paranoid
I's been hit by a stool. And a pool cue. And by a car. And by a bus. Neither worked so well. But when you look at Aniz's build...
Is that an innate cubi power, or is it just something that comes with age and training?
*Simpsons flashback to Bart hitting Homer with the chair in the bathtub*
Abel: Woah! That was so cool. Can I break something else over you?
But then you'd have to have him forget that his mom just got thrown into a wall and all that, so yeah. Wouldn't work. :)
So Fa'Lina knows this? I thought she didn't know about individual `cubi until she got the application, and Amber seemed to imply (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2759.msg114550#msg114550) that you can't get an application processed until you're capable of participating in the lessons there.
This almost seems to imply that he's just there to pick Abel up, rather than having been there for 25 years. After all, I don't think she'd care if Aniz were gone for 25 years and one day rather than 25 years. Unless Fa'Lina is going to get on his case for some other reason--which is entirely possible.
Also...Aniz in the penultimate frame looks familiar (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_52.php) (yeah, pretty sure just similar expressions. Still).
i suspect the guardian poodle of malice will show up soon.
Unless you're a rogue, don't bother sneaking up on anyone. Unless you've got silver or cold iron weaponry handy, don't bother trying to take on anything with resemblance to the demonic. And unless you've been adventuring as long as they have, don't bother picking a fight with someone.
:mowmeep Quick, Aniz was once Cid the adventurer. Certainly there must be a handy axe , knife, or spear somewhere !!! Also , the Evil Poodle of malice once commented that she was semi - omnipresent . She also had the power to move herself bodily with me thought. When will the evil poodle of doom turn up ?
:rolleyes And will Aniz have to worry about Fa'lina getting him, more than Abel trying to do so ?
Quote from: Shego2Drakken on June 08, 2007, 11:57:29 PM
(Though I'm probably gonna regret all the speculation this is gonna cause...)
"Fa'Lina is likely to get on my case as is..."
Wonder why? Is Azin supposed to take Abel to the Academy? Or is he supposed to be there in the first place? *goes to her speculation-proof shelter*
Probably because he forgot the speech.
Fa' lina loves cliches in her favor remember? And that most likely includes villain speeches when the good guys really can't do anything.
Though able will not be with the good guys much longer will he?
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
Is that how he keeps his stools so soft and... moist...waitaminute... :erk
Aniz will Kill May Now.
Aniz: do you have an chair for me?
Abel: sure here you have it! *hits Aniz with the chair*
Aniz: why thank you for the chair.
Abel: ... uhm, your welcome ...
heehee my mind is making silly stuff up :mowcookie
Quote from: Manawolf on June 09, 2007, 12:54:22 AMUnless you've got silver or cold iron weaponry handy, don't bother trying to take on anything with resemblance to the demonic.
Oh, this would be fun. Get a silver knife and attack Aniz. Watch as it doesn't even faze him. (Oh, and that better be sterling silver, otherwise the knife would probably break before the skin)
Quote from: kaskar on June 09, 2007, 12:57:10 AMAlso , the Evil Poodle of malice once commented that she was semi - omnipresent
That's omniscient. Omniscient means knowing all. Omnipresent means being everywhere. I'd be surprised if Fa'Lina is even capable of bilocation.
Edit: She actually said semi-omnipotent (all-powerful), though she seems to have meant omniscient. And omnivorous is something else entirely...
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Maybe Aniz was impressed that Abel hit him hard enough to break the chair.
It does appear that cubi do tend to react to things in a rather physical manner, and an ability to attack could come in handy at SAIA.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_493.php
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_505.php
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_534.php
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_545.php
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_589.php
:mowmeep Speaker, speaker, will you now take the chair ....
Able at this point has not learned to shield his mind, thus one would assume that his father was aware of the impending attack. Going with that, he allowed it to happen, and perhaps defended himself magically. He certainly proved before he could dodge May's attack, again, likely because he heard her think it before she did it.
There are really two things I don't quite get...
Why does he seem surprised? I mean, even short the whole mind reading thing his actions just now certainly should have provoked some sort of vastly negative reaction. This outcome should not have been a surprise to anyone.
Why does he seem both pleased and hostile after that moment of pause? I mean, if it was all just to see if he could piss Able off or something, why would he get violent himself in return.
As to Fa'Lina, maybe he is worried that she is going to be pissed enough at what a basket case he made his son before dropping him off.
:mwaha As I have said before, the mild mannered librarian whimp Abel is long gone. Now, Aniz likes to, and want's to see, that the boy has a bit of real 'spirit' in him ...
Quote from: kaskar on June 09, 2007, 12:57:10 AM
:rolleyes And will Aniz have to worry about Fa'lina getting him, more than Abel trying to do so ?
hell hath no fury like a poodle annoyed. >:3
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on June 09, 2007, 12:12:48 AM
You stupid Abel, things were going just fine until you hit him with your damn stool...
Oh yeah, things were just peachy up until then.
Hm... Could one of the "homework" requirements for some SAIA class or another be to take over someone's life for a few years, and as long as you dont get detected, you pass... Perhaps creating a heir in the process gives extra credit? :P
-Robbie
:mowignore If Abel is to be treated as an 'external' student, then it follows that a more amiable tutor should be sent to teach Abel at home in the Cubi ways . The tutor could pass themselves off as 'boarder' , etc ... Since the Saia is free, the funding for this also follows. ( Does May get a cut of the action, with the board ? , and why does the name Destinia come to mind ? )
Power alone doesnt messure up what Aniz might do if Abel doesnt really prepare himself fast enough
Quote from: WhiteFire on June 09, 2007, 01:45:00 AMWhy does he seem surprised?
Where do you get that? He certainly didn't have a tell, or else he would have given Abel a clue that he knew what Abel was thinking. But he doesn't seem surprised.
Quote from: WhiteFire on June 09, 2007, 01:45:00 AMWhy does he seem both pleased and hostile after that moment of pause?
Perhaps he gets to show off? Maybe like those martial arts films where the master completely obliterates the apprentice, and then the apprentice thinks--I have *got* to learn how he does that.
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on June 09, 2007, 02:49:05 AMCould one of the "homework" requirements for some SAIA class or another be to take over someone's life for a few years, and as long as you dont get detected, you pass...
I don't think that Abel would be able to pull that one off. Maybe that's why he hasn't graduated?
Actually, it would seem to be something fairly advanced, and while it's entirely possible that Aary and Abel have done it, I'm not getting the sense that either of them have.
Is this a case where Abel's animal fury is not good enough for Aniz'z catculated cunning ... Of course, I keep on wondering, does Fa'lina have even a spark of a motherly bone. Or is it the Royal order of the saccerine spoon ?
Quote from: Grenn on June 09, 2007, 12:29:53 AM
*Simpsons flashback to Bart hitting Homer with the chair in the bathtub*
Abel: Woah! That was so cool. Can I break something else over you?
That's totally what I'd be like in his situation.
I think in the last panel, Abel looks pretty much like a scared kid realizing he just made some terrible mistake.
However, although things did not seem to go exactly as Aniz had planned so far, maybe his "evil grin" doesn't necessarily suggest him plotting violent revenge on his own son - maybe it's more that now he has reached the point he was working for all the time, getting Abel upset enough (by deliberately hurting his mother) to fight him.
While Abel of course wouldn't stand a chance against Aniz, I doubt that the senior cubi would act that irrationally and hurt his precious offspring, would he? He might not care about May, but I guess he wouldn't have done all that if he didn't care about Abel.
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
Oh you! I was so thinking of that same joke... but I thought better of it. I must be getting soft...
I wonder whether that means Aniz has been through SAIA. That was my first impression, but others have speculated that the whole thing was some kind of fieldwork.
Here's an idea, though.
Cid was away somewhere while Abel was doing the funeral thing. A few days beforehand he would either have seen Abel's clan-mark directly or have picked it up from his wife's mind around the time that she spotted it. Perhaps the 'old friend' he was talking about was actually Fa'Lina, and he had been visiting the Academy to get Abel's application processed? Just a thought.
As for the stool, Demons and Angels can harden their skin. Whether 'Cubi have this ability in the same way is unclear, but even if they don't they can achieve it by shapeshifting. My guess is that he read Abel's intentions in his mind and fortified himself by such means.
What he's going to do with the claws is unclear. He might injure Abel and get him fixed up at the Academy, for instance. But it's possible he's going to prevent Abel from wanting to remain in Zinvth by killing the two people he knows best. With May and Hennya dead he would have two less reasons to stay.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 09, 2007, 05:14:54 AM
I wonder whether that means Aniz has been through SAIA. That was my first impression, but others have speculated that the whole thing was some kind of fieldwork.
Here's an idea, though.
Cid was away somewhere while Abel was doing the funeral thing. A few days beforehand he would either have seen Abel's clan-mark directly or have picked it up from his wife's mind around the time that she spotted it. Perhaps the 'old friend' he was talking about was actually Fa'Lina, and he had been visiting the Academy to get Abel's application processed? Just a thought.
As for the stool, Demons and Angels can harden their skin. Whether 'Cubi have this ability in the same way is unclear, but even if they don't they can achieve it by shapeshifting. My guess is that he read Abel's intentions in his mind and fortified himself by such means.
either that, or has a high pain threshold.
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What he's going to do with the claws is unclear. He might injure Abel and get him fixed up at the Academy, for instance. But it's possible he's going to prevent Abel from wanting to remain in Zinvth by killing the two people he knows best. With May and Hennya dead he would have two less reasons to stay.
and as soon as abel meets the doc, i'm fairly sure abel would want to stay in Zinvth... :P
I wonder if Aniz is going to bother with May anymore, or leave her here so Abel can get some emotional recuperation. Aniz seems to have been succesful in adding an (adult?) cubi to his clan. His job is done. Saia handles the job from here
Quote from: Marmonstein on June 09, 2007, 12:22:23 AM
I figured Fa'Lina would be mentioned sooner or later, but I didn't expect that from Aniz.
Go on, Abel! Wap him again! :U
Barf on his shoes, that will teach him!
Honestly though, I'm surprised that Aniz withstood a blunt attack that easily. I thought that the Cubi's strengths were along the mental/emotional/magical lines and not brute force.
Quote from: WhiteFire on June 09, 2007, 01:45:00 AM
Able at this point has not learned to shield his mind, thus one would assume that his father was aware of the impending attack.
Ever since Aniz showed up, I was wondering when he'll start emotion jamming Abel since he's completely defenseless against it. Considering how much Abel uses it in the modern comics its effectiveness at some time must have made a considerable impression on him.
Wouldn't it be horrible if he emotion jammed Abel with the overwhelming urge to commit matricide? I expect something to happen with emotion jamming to happen before the comic's done.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 09, 2007, 05:14:54 AMBut it's possible he's going to prevent Abel from wanting to remain in Zinvth by killing the two people he knows best. With May and Hennya dead he would have two less reasons to stay.
Boy, if he kills Hennya, it's really going to hit the fan.
The murder of a creature wouldn't even go to the C-B council. It would presumably go directly to the creature authorities, who would treat that fairly seriously.
Besides, he's got more friends in Zinvth, such as Ahnora and Kria (the latter is more a mentor than a friend).
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on June 09, 2007, 08:25:01 AMWouldn't it be horrible if he emotion jammed Abel with the overwhelming urge to commit matricide? I expect something to happen with emotion jamming to happen before the comic's done.
I dunno. That smacks of powergaming, which Amber hates. I suspect that emotion jamming probably deals with actual emotions, and I don't think there's an emotion for matricide.
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on June 09, 2007, 08:25:01 AM
Wouldn't it be horrible if he emotion jammed Abel with the overwhelming urge to commit matricide? I expect something to happen with emotion jamming to happen before the comic's done.
Nice idea, but doubtful. Look at Abel's reaction to shapeshifting - he won't change his base form except under dire necessity and that is almost certainly because of what Aniz did to Cid. If Aniz used emotion-jamming to confuse Abel into committing murder, Abel would never have used it against Dan in a million years.
I'm starting to think something is going to happen to May and it's going to be really freaking bloody. Hasn't anyone wondered why Abel has hemophobia? Imagine your mother dying and you winding up covered in her blood. That's enough to make anyone terrified of blood.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 09, 2007, 08:54:04 AM
I'm starting to think something is going to happen to May and it's going to be really freaking bloody. Hasn't anyone wondered why Abel has hemophobia? Imagine your mother dying and you winding up covered in her blood. That's enough to make anyone terrified of blood.
That was my theory from day one, but Amber said on a couple of occasions that it is just a characteristic of his personality, it doesn't have to have a root cause. Remember his reaction at the fort and his conversation with Devin...
Quote from: Azlan on June 09, 2007, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
Oh you! I was so thinking of that same joke... but I thought better of it. I must be getting soft...
Don't worry, they have plenty of medications for that.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 09, 2007, 09:03:41 AM
Quote from: Netrogo on June 09, 2007, 08:54:04 AM
I'm starting to think something is going to happen to May and it's going to be really freaking bloody. Hasn't anyone wondered why Abel has hemophobia? Imagine your mother dying and you winding up covered in her blood. That's enough to make anyone terrified of blood.
That was my theory from day one, but Amber said on a couple of occasions that it is just a characteristic of his personality, it doesn't have to have a root cause. Remember his reaction at the fort and his conversation with Devin...
Oh yeah that's right, he threw up at the sight of blood at the fort too. My bad.
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 09:10:08 AM
Quote from: Azlan on June 09, 2007, 04:23:41 AM
Oh you! I was so thinking of that same joke... but I thought better of it. I must be getting soft...
Don't worry, they have plenty of medications for that.
You mean someone slipped Aniz some laxatives?
Actually, I've been thinking. As a result of this particular strip, does anyone here agree with me? Three cheers for Aniz!
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 09, 2007, 09:36:12 AM
Actually, I've been thinking. As a result of this particular strip, does anyone here agree with me? Three cheers for Aniz!
Nah, he's still a douche.
Would you prefer "Three chairs for Aniz" instead?
Yes. Yes I would.
Wild Abel attacks!
But the Aniz takes no damage!
:U !
Quote from: Kaerou on June 09, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
Wild Abel attacks!
But the Aniz takes no damage!
:U !
Aniz obviously did a saving roll vs furniture.
Quote from: Turnsky on June 09, 2007, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: Kaerou on June 09, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
Wild Abel attacks!
But the Aniz takes no damage!
:U !
Aniz obviously did a saving roll vs furniture.
Either that or Abel rolled a critical fail, hence his weapon breaking :U
Quote from: Turnsky on June 09, 2007, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: Kaerou on June 09, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
Wild Abel attacks!
But the Aniz takes no damage!
Aniz obviously did a saving roll vs furniture.
Utter rubbish. He is
obviously wearing a ring of +20 resist chair. Why do you think it's so prominent in all three frames? >:3
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
Or maybe Abel is just that strong? He
is an incubus...
Quote from: RobbieThe1st on June 09, 2007, 02:49:05 AM
Hm... Could one of the "homework" requirements for some SAIA class or another be to take over someone's life for a few years, and as long as you dont get detected, you pass... Perhaps creating a heir in the process gives extra credit? :P
If so, there's another reason for me not to like it.
Quote from: Azlan on June 09, 2007, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
Oh you! I was so thinking of that same joke... but I thought better of it. I must be getting soft...
Yes, you are getting soft... which makes it easier for people to pass you. :giggle
*Alondro listens in* And people wonder why I don't show up here often. :erk *leaves quickly!*
Well ok then.
Quote from: Alondro on June 09, 2007, 10:31:32 AM
Yes, you are getting soft... which makes it easier for people to pass you. :giggle
*Alondro listens in* And people wonder why I don't show up here often. :erk *leaves quickly!*
Ah, so THAT'S why I don't see Alondro around unless Charline is flashing her bewbs... :boggle
What does Fa'Linna want. She wants all cubi to go to SAIA. What would get Aniz in trouble with Fa'Lina -- not taking Abel to SAIA. In addition, Aniz has now mentioned the possibility of staying with Abel and May, possibly to train Abel himself rather than taking Abel to SAIA for training.
Could this be a standard cubi training exercise.
Quote from: Naldru on June 09, 2007, 11:07:23 AM
What does Fa'Linna want. She wants all cubi to go to SAIA. What would get Aniz in trouble with Fa'Lina -- not taking Abel to SAIA. In addition, Aniz has now mentioned the possibility of staying with Abel and May, possibly to train Abel himself rather than taking Abel to SAIA for training.
Could this be a standard cubi training exercise.
When did he mention that? Did I miss something?
EDIT: Nope, I missed nothing. I read through the last few pages again, and you're just full of it :erk
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 09, 2007, 10:22:22 AM
Utter rubbish. He is obviously wearing a ring of +20 resist chair. Why do you think it's so prominent in all three frames? >:3
(http://llearch.net/misc/resist_chair.jpg)
Oh, and Netrogo? Ease off on the personal attacks, now.
Well okay then, indeed!
I'd been wondering if Aniz was the one who took his son to SAIA (better that he blame his father for not having a choice than blame himself for what he chose). For the past 2 strips, I'd suspected as much. But I didn't wanna make idle speculation. :)
It also reinforces my post regarding the last strip: Aniz isn't "beating his wife." He's toying with her, like one of my cats running 'round the house with a mouse it's caught, but not killing it. Mixed in with that, I sense Aniz demonstrating that he's a lot more powerful than he lets on. I'm sure he let Abel bust that chair over him. Probably knew it was coming.
I wonder if Aniz will... naah. Let's wait for Amber herself to reveal what'll happen. :D
Take a look at page 94
"Since the speech was a bust, I guess there is no reason to stick around here."
That implies that he would have a reason to stick around if the speech wasn't a bust. From his other statements, he implies that Fa'Lina would be less on his case if he left. The only thing that Fa'Lina seems to care about is protecting and training young cubi. Taking Abel to SAIA would result in Fa'Lina being less on his case.
Also, take a look at the body language and wording Aniz has used since revealing himself as a cubi. The second panel of page 94 is the first time he hasn't taken a dominating position. His face and posture seem relaxed, as opposed to the overly-theatrical scenery eating style of the past few pages. He says "the speech was a bust" and "probably for the best",, hardly signs of total self-assurance. He also admits that he would prefer not being in trouble with Fa'Lina, an admission that he is not in control of everything.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 09, 2007, 11:28:17 AM
Oh, and Netrogo? Ease off on the personal attacks, now.
Sorry, Net be good.
Quote from: Naldru on June 09, 2007, 11:41:57 AM
"Since the speech was a bust, I guess there is no reason to stick around here."
I'm pretty sure that was his way of saying he was about to up and leave. Speach failed, family miserable, no more reason to be here. I strongly doubt he was planning to stick around longer then doing his speach and adding insult to their injury.
Someone mentioning that it would be best if they left is not mentioning the possibility of staying.
Possibly inferring, but not mentioning.
Which would make me think that this train of thought is wild crazy speculation, and I think it would be better if we didn't proceed down it.
Come on Abel! At least now you have two wooden stakes to stab him with! (No, I'm not suggesting Aniz is a vampire.)
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on June 09, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
Come on Abel! At least now you have two wooden stakes to stab him with! (No, I'm not suggesting Aniz is a vampire.)
You're
encouraging him to stab you?
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on June 09, 2007, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on June 09, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
Come on Abel! At least now you have two wooden stakes to stab him with! (No, I'm not suggesting Aniz is a vampire.)
You're encouraging him to stab you?
Its either that let him claw ya....
Quote from: WhiteFire on June 09, 2007, 01:45:00 AM
Able at this point has not learned to shield his mind, thus one would assume that his father was aware of the impending attack. Going with that, he allowed it to happen, and perhaps defended himself magically. He certainly proved before he could dodge May's attack, again, likely because he heard her think it before she did it.
That'd require him making a mental note on the surface of his mind that he's going to hit him with a chair. Most people don't do that. When they're mad, they grab something, hit someone. They don't think about it.
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on June 09, 2007, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on June 09, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
Come on Abel! At least now you have two wooden stakes to stab him with! (No, I'm not suggesting Aniz is a vampire.)
You're encouraging him to stab you?
No, he's encouraging Abel to stab Aniz.
AnizInDisguise has nothing whatsoever, to the extent of my knowledge, to do with Aniz himself. The former is a forumite, the latter a character in the strip...
... just in case there's any confusion, mind.
If only Abel had gone for the Stone Cold Stunner instead of a chair shot. Oh, Abel, will you ever learn?
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 03:43:27 PM
If only Abel had gone for the Stone Cold Stunner instead of a chair shot. Oh, Abel, will you ever learn?
If only May invested into those turnbuckles :|
Methinks Aniz was going to do his speech, expect predictable reactions from everyone, toy with them more, and then leave dramatically with Abel in tow. 'Since the speech was a bust' now he can not garner the reactions he wants and leave with a proper flair. But since he seems very happy Abel hit him, I think he is going to knock Abel out and take him along, which end up with him leaving, with Abel, like he was planning all along.
..And I though my character backstory had it rough; having a father who is a Giant Spider (yes, the RPG-esqe monster) and thus hunted by people out to slay vicious beasts. :P
Quote from: Naldru on June 09, 2007, 11:07:23 AMWhat would get Aniz in trouble with Fa'Lina -- not taking Abel to SAIA.
Yes, but he's expecting Fa'Lina to get on his case. That suggests that he anticipates running into her again. Which means that he probably intends for Abel to go to SAIA.
(I believe that's the part that's not wild, crazy speculation)
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on June 09, 2007, 01:09:40 PMThat'd require him making a mental note on the surface of his mind that he's going to hit him with a chair. Most people don't do that. When they're mad, they grab something, hit someone. They don't think about it.
He might not think it in words, but he might think it in images, and we seemed to see that `cubi can do that in Mind Reading 1.
Also, remind me not to be around Aridas when he's mad.
Quote from: superluser on June 09, 2007, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on June 09, 2007, 01:09:40 PMThat'd require him making a mental note on the surface of his mind that he's going to hit him with a chair. Most people don't do that. When they're mad, they grab something, hit someone. They don't think about it.
He might not think it in words, but he might think it in images, and we seemed to see that `cubi can do that in Mind Reading 1.
Also, remind me not to be around Aridas when he's mad.
All Aniz needs to feel Abel's murderous rage, and block the chair/stool with his WINGS... God, he is a incubus, and he has wing/tentacle that he can use by Morph them to defend himself and quick morph them back into his back. And the boy wouldn't know what he hit.
PBH
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 03:43:27 PM
If only Abel had gone for the Stone Cold Stunner instead of a chair shot. Oh, Abel, will you ever learn?
Stone Cold Stunner sounds like a drink. One of those that are served with a miniature umbrella and a slice of lime on the glass.
... now I'm thirsty.
Quote from: Kaerou on June 09, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
Wild Abel attacks!
But the Aniz takes no damage!
:U !
Someone said something about powergaming earlier?
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on June 09, 2007, 07:12:55 PM
All Aniz needs to feel Abel's murderous rage, and block the chair/stool with his WINGS... God, he is a incubus, and he has wing/tentacle that he can use by Morph them to defend himself and quick morph them back into his back. And the boy wouldn't know what he hit.
Err if you read a post from a previous thingy... you'd know he adores that shirt...
Quote from: superluser on June 09, 2007, 08:31:48 AM
Boy, if he kills Hennya, it's really going to hit the fan.
The murder of a creature wouldn't even go to the C-B council. It would presumably go directly to the creature authorities, who would treat that fairly seriously.
That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Why would the creature council care about the murder of a creature. Remember kria's little talk on power? The same reasons killing beings is a slap on the wrist is the reason that they would care less about creature on creature murders.
Quote from: Damaris on June 09, 2007, 11:50:40 AM
Someone mentioning that it would be best if they left is not mentioning the possibility of staying.
Possibly inferring, but not mentioning.
Which would make me think that this train of thought is wild crazy speculation, and I think it would be better if we didn't proceed down it.
I may indeed have used the wrong word when I said that Aniz mentioned the possibility of staying instead of saying that his comments implied the possibility.
But with regard to wild crazy speculation, I wonder if we're reading the same forum. So far, I've heard the following speculations.
Aniz is Devin's father.
Aniz is going to kill May.
May is going to kill Aniz.
Kria is going to attack Aniz.
Fa'Lina is going to attack Aniz.
Aniz is going to kill Hennaya.
Hennaya is going to kill Aniz.
And I'm not even going for the weirder ideas.
If mine are wild and crazy speculations, I guess that there are worse role models for this forum than Steve Martin.
*****
The scientific method involves the creation of hypothesis and then testing them against events. Sometimes the method of testing can be unusual.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_648.php
Quote from: Naldru on June 09, 2007, 09:44:45 PM
Aniz is Devin's father.
No!
I am Abel's father! Look into your heart. You know it to be true. :trooper (Why don't we have a Vader emote? :U )
Quote from: Whitemagebishieboy on June 09, 2007, 08:51:22 PMThat doesn't make a lick of sense.
Why would the creature council care about the murder of a creature. Remember kria's little talk on power? The same reasons killing beings is a slap on the wrist is the reason that they would care less about creature on creature murders.
The might makes right speech seems to be based on the creature-being distinction. Note that whenever they talk about how killing is OK, it's always about killing beings.
Also note that young creatures are going to be much less powerful than older ones, and I'm pretty sure that the law would have some protection for children, if for no other reason than to prevent a creature from killing her kid's murderer, the murderer's parents, siblings, kids, cousins, teachers &c.
I dread Abel's Story ending.
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
I dread Abel's Story ending.
So do I, So do I....but at lest the turtle dove's comic will start then...
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
I dread Abel's Story ending.
The question could be not only when will it end, but will it end. After all, Abel's Story is merely a prequel to the main story line. Abel's story will therefore continue in the main story line, with the possibility of back-stories being inserted from time to time to further complement the prequel.
Okay, fine. I'll say it the rude way.
We don't like know-it-alls. So I'd work on that before Darkmoon catches you.
Quote from: Naldru on June 10, 2007, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
I dread Abel's Story ending.
The question could be not only when will it end, but will it end. After all, Abel's Story is merely a prequel to the main story line. Abel's story will therefore continue in the main story line, with the possibility of back-stories being inserted from time to time to further complement the prequel.
;)
:rolleyes So is Abel's story eventually going to turn into one of those big flashbacks that everyone hates ?
Quote from: kaskar on June 10, 2007, 03:48:24 AM
Quote from: Naldru on June 10, 2007, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
I dread Abel's Story ending.
The question could be not only when will it end, but will it end. After all, Abel's Story is merely a prequel to the main story line. Abel's story will therefore continue in the main story line, with the possibility of back-stories being inserted from time to time to further complement the prequel.
;)
:rolleyes So is Abel's story eventually going to turn into one of those big flashbacks that everyone hates ?
I don't think Abel's the "true" main character in that fashion(maybe in his story, but not DMFA as well).
He's an important one, but I don't see his story pulling a "Darth Vader" at any point. It'll probably end at SAIA, either when introduced to his first class, or when he meets Destania.
Also, for some reason when I read the first two panels, I always imagine Abel screaming "STOOOOOOL!!!" as a battlecry. Imagine it being similar to The Tick's "SPOOOOON!!!". There ya go, instant catch phrase! :giggle
Quote from: kaskar on June 10, 2007, 03:48:24 AM:rolleyes So is Abel's story eventually going to turn into one of those big flashbacks that everyone hates ?
Hey, I happen to enjoy those flashbacks very thoroughly, thank you very much.
:judges
Quoteis to get to Abel a less obnoxious teacher of the Cubi ways
Where's the fun in that? Fa'lina can do better than that, really.
Who better to teach the subject he loathes the most?QuoteI dread Abel's Story ending.
Nonsense. He has more pain to feel.Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on June 09, 2007, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on June 09, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
Come on Abel! At least now you have two wooden stakes to stab him with! (No, I'm not suggesting Aniz is a vampire.)
You're encouraging him to stab you?
That wasn't the point of his post? For the irony?QuoteWhen did he mention that? Did I miss something?
He might be implying it. He's likely conceding to the fact that he'd probably have to drag Abel, half beaten to death, by his ear, to SAIA. Still, I digress.QuoteMy God, if I were hit by a freakin' stool I would've gone down crying like a baby.
...
(other posts about how unfeeling Aniz is)
Morph all pain receptors in your body into extra body tissue. You can still be cut and bleed, but be devoid of feeling. Internal damage (except perhaps chest compression at levels that can stop or liquefy the heart) can be temporarily repaired by shapeshifter regeneration and basic knowledge of your anatomy. (It will at least stop internal bleeding until you can get to a surgeon.)QuoteThat'd require him making a mental note on the surface of his mind that he's going to hit him with a chair. Most people don't do that. When they're mad, they grab something, hit someone. They don't think about it.
Bzzzt. Wrong answer. Thank you for playing.
Two reasons.
Anger is a thought, even if it is subconscious. All emotions are still inside your brain and registers as thoughts, not some arbitrary properties of your soul, consciousness or what have you. Aniz gets to read that.
Hitting someone over the head with a chair because you hate that person and you did it because of provocation is still a subconscious act and consequently a thought and not a reflex. Automatism cannot be used as a defense to liability of state of mind here. That is why if Aniz was a normal being and was killed, Abel can be charged with voluntary manslaughter. Bottomline, Aniz still gets to read it as a thought and react accordingly.
Though, this is all garbage since it didn't hurt, at all.QuoteSo is Abel's story eventually going to turn into one of those big flashbacks that everyone hates?
Possibly.
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
I dread Abel's Story ending.
don't forget how old Abel is in the DMFA proper, that's a LOT of background history to cover. 600 or so years worth, infact.
i'd be worrying more about amber's attention span running out than the comic running out of story :P
:mwaha
Quote from: RushFox on June 10, 2007, 04:11:37 AM
I don't think Abel's the "true" main character in that fashion(maybe in his story, but not DMFA as well).
He's an important one, but I don't see his story pulling a "Darth Vader" at any point. It'll probably end at SAIA, either when introduced to his first class, or when he meets Destania.
Also, for some reason when I read the first two panels, I always imagine Abel screaming "STOOOOOOL!!!" as a battlecry. Imagine it being similar to The Tick's "SPOOOOON!!!". There ya go, instant catch phrase! :giggle
:mowhappy Or should that be SPORK !!!
No, I'm sorry, you fail, the correct answer was spoon. Keeps talking of utensils and I'll have to get out occam's razor again.
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 05:32:51 AM
don't forget how old Abel is in the DMFA proper, that's a LOT of background history to cover. 600 or so years worth, infact.
Well, he's just shy of 400 in the mainline, but yeah. We've only covered about 25 of those years.
Quotei'd be worrying more about amber's attention span running out than the comic running out of story :P
Perhaps. It has occurred to me that the bulk of Abel's time in SAIA may consist of him learning things rather than actually interesting events, hence it may proceed relatively quickly.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 10, 2007, 06:37:41 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 05:32:51 AM
don't forget how old Abel is in the DMFA proper, that's a LOT of background history to cover. 600 or so years worth, infact.
Well, he's just shy of 400 in the mainline, but yeah. We've only covered about 25 of those years.
Quotei'd be worrying more about amber's attention span running out than the comic running out of story :P
Perhaps. It has occurred to me that the bulk of Abel's time in SAIA may consist of him learning things rather than actually interesting events, hence it may proceed relatively quickly.
it'll be interesting to see him meet SAIA's doctor for the first time, however.. given the content of abel's story is more mature.. eheheh :P
Oh christ. :rolleyes
Quote from: Netami on June 10, 2007, 06:40:35 AM
Oh christ. :rolleyes
i meant in the blood department. :rolleyes
Is Abel's room to become a place of convenient flashbacks to the past. We have Kria in it, Aniz may show his head in the main series, and of course , We have heard of the saccherine voiced pink poodle, Fa'lina .Destina will probably turn up soon, as a tutor in suvival from Saia, and many, many others, seems the flashbacks might turn into an electrical storm ...
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 10, 2007, 06:37:41 AM
Quotei'd be worrying more about amber's attention span running out than the comic running out of story :P
Perhaps. It has occurred to me that the bulk of Abel's time in SAIA may consist of him learning things rather than actually interesting events, hence it may proceed relatively quickly.
it'll be interesting to see him meet SAIA's doctor for the first time, however.. given the content of abel's story is more mature.. eheheh :P
Abel's Goth period would be interesting to see, and why it is so dangerous for a Cubi to get so depressed. And oh Yes!, His first medical exam with Prof Ink that may be cover in this Abel's story.. Please :giggle
Oh when did I become such a fan-girl for Prof Ink...I will never know. To Ink :hug
PBH
questions: will able be hideously scarred?
Will aniz get the S[poo]T beaten out of him at some point, or with that be left up to the fans?
as the stool broke Aniz decided that his son needs a spanking so he's gonna go japanise tentical monster on the boy...
Quote from: kaskar on June 10, 2007, 07:11:26 AM
Is Abel's room to become a place of convenient flashbacks to the past. We have Kria in it, Aniz may show his head in the main series, and of course , We have heard of the saccherine voiced pink poodle, Fa'lina .Destina will probably turn up soon, as a tutor in suvival from Saia, and many, many others, seems the flashbacks might turn into an electrical storm ...
I'm waiting anxiously for information on the library incident at SAIA.
http://www.missmab.com/Cast/abel.php
My sister's a librarian and I wonder if I might have anything interesting to show her.
By the way, let me take this opportunity to apologize if my attitude has accidentally offended anybody. I assure you that that was not my intention.
Beware the EmoWock, my son
The moping, the LSD
Beware its cruddy poems, and shun
it, lest it whine at thee.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on June 10, 2007, 08:14:07 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 10, 2007, 06:37:41 AM
Quotei'd be worrying more about amber's attention span running out than the comic running out of story :P
Perhaps. It has occurred to me that the bulk of Abel's time in SAIA may consist of him learning things rather than actually interesting events, hence it may proceed relatively quickly.
it'll be interesting to see him meet SAIA's doctor for the first time, however.. given the content of abel's story is more mature.. eheheh :P
Abel's Goth period would be interesting to see, and why it is so dangerous for a Cubi to get so depressed.
perhaps since 'cubi can "feed" off emotions, etc. Perhaps a depressed 'cubi can feed off emotions to a point where there's nothing left of the person.
and never satiated.
kinda like the 'wendigo' (although references are hard to find), they're emo incarnate from what i remember, and like to feed off human flesh.
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 01:04:57 PM
perhaps since 'cubi can "feed" off emotions, etc. Perhaps a depressed 'cubi can feed off emotions to a point where there's nothing left of the person.
This is unclear but I think they're feeding off radiated excess emotions rather than actually taking anything from their prey/host/victim.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 10, 2007, 01:32:50 PM
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 01:04:57 PM
perhaps since 'cubi can "feed" off emotions, etc. Perhaps a depressed 'cubi can feed off emotions to a point where there's nothing left of the person.
This is unclear but I think they're feeding off radiated excess emotions rather than actually taking anything from their prey/host/victim.
True enough, but, given a depressive state is a black pit of despair and sadness, perhaps that might work like the proverbial black hole? or something that works completely opposite?.. like an emo 'cubi
exudes depression so much so that it affects everything around them, even the emotional states of other sentient beings.
Maybe it's just that they look cooler than Fa'Lina, and that makes her unhappy?
Quote from: kaskar on June 10, 2007, 03:48:24 AM
Quote from: Naldru on June 10, 2007, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: rabid_fox on June 09, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
I dread Abel's Story ending.
The question could be not only when will it end, but will it end. After all, Abel's Story is merely a prequel to the main story line. Abel's story will therefore continue in the main story line, with the possibility of back-stories being inserted from time to time to further complement the prequel.
;)
:rolleyes So is Abel's story eventually going to turn into one of those big flashbacks that everyone hates ?
*Charline plays the emo Naruto music* Abel's father killed his family, seeking to increase the power of his Sharingen... :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 10, 2007, 01:32:50 PMThis is unclear but I think they're feeding off radiated excess emotions rather than actually taking anything from their prey/host/victim.
I seem to remember someone saying (read: I'm not sure if it were Amber) that they could forcibly drain emotions, but that they typically just feed off of radiated emotions, since forcibly draining emotions usually leaves the drainer at a net loss.
Bah, what a discourse... The chair has no noticeable effect on Aniz because he is tough and Abel is not. It appears to be one of those points where, like the older generations, where an abusive or heavy handed father is finally challenged by the son. This appears to be shaping up to be a serious smack-down for Abel.
Quote from: superluser on June 10, 2007, 04:36:48 PM
I seem to remember someone saying (read: I'm not sure if it were Amber) that they could forcibly drain emotions, but that they typically just feed off of radiated emotions, since forcibly draining emotions usually leaves the drainer at a net loss.
Yeah, I think it was actually me who asked about it, because I've used that effect in my writings from time to time. I was deliberately ignoring that in this case for some reason... probably because if it did actually damage the victim, it wouldn't be allowed to be done to other 'Cubi at SAIA.
I've always thought of that as being like mopping up a floor with a dripping pipe... if you force-drain someone's emotions, you've cleaned away the puddle but it eventually comes back. It makes the effect good for stopping pain or wiping away someone's depression, which is what I've done it with it. But we are digressing.
Quote from: Azlan on June 10, 2007, 05:45:04 PM
It appears to be one of those points where, like the older generations, where an abusive or heavy handed father is finally challenged by the son. This appears to be shaping up to be a serious smack-down for Abel.
"It was Keyser Soze, inspector! I mean the Devil himself! How do you shoot the Devil in the back...? What if you miss?"
Quote from: Alondro on June 10, 2007, 03:56:39 PM
:rolleyes*Charline plays the emo Naruto music* Abel's father killed his family, seeking to increase the power of his Sharingen... :P
Cid was never Abel's father. Aniz, after killing Cid, shapeshifted himself to look like " Cid " . After 25 years, Aniz now sees that Abel has turned into ' (for the moment a rather inept), Cubi . His job as "Cid" is done. Now he can stretch his wings ...
( My apologies for any double meanings or unsequential quotes )
I knew Falina had a hand in this that's why I don't trust her what evil scheme she has for poor Abel I think he would be as defiant when he was at SAIA not playing her game. I have to wonder what will kill Aniz a footstool *NOWAY* If Abel had that ability to have his tenticals reach for some bad ass blades then we have Aniz Steaks cooking on the grill with some beer over it mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm beer steaks :dribble >:3.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 10, 2007, 06:06:31 PM
"It was Keyser Soze, inspector! I mean the Devil himself! How do you shoot the Devil in the back...? What if you miss?"
Who is Keyser Soze?
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 07:03:05 PM
Who is Keyser Soze?
That could either be a quote, or an honest question. If it's an honest question it means you've missed one of the best films of the last 15 years :P
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 07:03:05 PM
Who is Keyser Soze?
The character is in the film The Usual Suspects
If you don't mind spoilers, you can check Wikipedia for Keyser Soze.
Is this change satisfactory. I feel you at least need to let him know what film he's missing.
Quote from: Naldru on June 11, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 07:03:05 PM
Who is Keyser Soze?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/........
No! If he hasn't seen the film you'll spoil it for him :erk
"Keaton (The Black Jackal) was Keyser Soze!"
Quote from: Naldru on June 11, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 07:03:05 PM
Who is Keyser Soze?
Is this change satisfactory. I feel you at least need to let him know what film he's missing.
Yeah, well I was waiting for him to reply first :P
How about setting it to the IMDB link for the Usual Suspects?
Quote from: kaskar on June 11, 2007, 02:03:35 AM
Quote from: Alondro on June 10, 2007, 03:56:39 PM
:rolleyes*Charline plays the emo Naruto music* Abel's father killed his family, seeking to increase the power of his Sharingen... :P
Cid was never Abel's father. Aniz, after killing Cid, shapeshifted himself to look like " Cid " . After 25 years, Aniz now sees that Abel has turned into ' (for the moment a rather inept), Cubi . His job as "Cid" is done. Now he can stretch his wings ...
( My apologies for any double meanings or unsequential quotes )
Cid wasn't mentioned in that post. Alondro said Abel's father, which IS Aniz, and I'm pretty sure she was hinting at the earlier speculation that Aniz is going to kill May.
Quote from: Turnsky on June 10, 2007, 01:04:57 PMkinda like the 'wendigo' (although references are hard to find), they're emo incarnate from what i remember, and like to feed off human flesh.
Odd... I always thought the windigo/wendigo was
hunger incarnate...
Quote from: Azlan on June 10, 2007, 05:45:04 PMIt appears to be one of those points where, like the older generations, where an abusive or heavy handed father is finally challenged by the son. This appears to be shaping up to be a serious smack-down for Abel.
Now, that
would be the obvious expected reaction, wouldn't it?
But from what I've seen, Aniz hasn't exactly been behaving in a predictable, expected fashion. So I'm fully expecting Aniz' reaction to be something I wouldn't have expected.
Whatever it turns out to be. :D
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 11, 2007, 07:17:03 PMNo! If he hasn't seen the film you'll spoil it for him :erk
Heck, I haven't seen the Usual Suspects and *I* knew who Keyser Soze was. :(
Yeah, I'll probably see it some day. Truly good movies can't be spoiled.
(By the way, the girl in The Crying Game...)
Oh, I quote... The Usual Suspects is well known to me.
Quote from: candide on June 11, 2007, 07:54:39 PM
But from what I've seen, Aniz hasn't exactly been behaving in a predictable, expected fashion. So I'm fully expecting Aniz' reaction to be something I wouldn't have expected.
Whatever it turns out to be. :D
:mowninja But what is Aniz's sane predictable, expected fashion ? As Aniz, we have to wait a few minutes to see how reacts in this situation, and what other characters will fly in. When will Missus Soulseeker turn up. And what of our well known pink poodle ? Will Aniz be losing points for being mean ?( By the way, has Henna finished making the tea yet ? A good cup of tea can always calm down a situation ... ( One more one liner bites the dust ... )
Quote from: kaskar on June 12, 2007, 02:32:04 AM
Quote from: candide on June 11, 2007, 07:54:39 PM
quote author=Turnsky link=topic=2931.msg123337#msg123337 date=1181495097]kinda like the 'wendigo' (although references are hard to find), they're emo incarnate from what i remember, and like to feed off human flesh.
Odd... I always thought the windigo/wendigo was hunger incarnate...
yeah, they are, but the human side can be wrought with grief and depression, there's variances to the theme, but most have the sapient side the more depressive, particularly over what their beastly side did.
Quote from: superluser on June 11, 2007, 11:02:02 PM
Heck, I haven't seen the Usual Suspects and *I* knew who Keyser Soze was. :(
Yeah, I'll probably see it some day. Truly good movies can't be spoiled.
I'd definitely recommend it. It has a surprising amount of replay value.
Quote from: Azlan on June 11, 2007, 11:09:39 PM
Oh, I quote... The Usual Suspects is well known to me.
Good :3
Quote from: kaskar on June 12, 2007, 02:32:04 AM
By the way, has Henna finished making the tea yet ?
The water's probably gone cold again by now. If she lives, there might be quite a demand, particularly if the violent scene suddenly turns into a cosy little tea-party. As for Fa'Lina, Aary reckons she never leaves the Academy so it's more likely that Aniz is going to bring Abel to her.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 12, 2007, 04:11:34 AM
As for Fa'Lina, Aary reckons she never leaves the Academy so it's more likely that Aniz is going to bring Abel to her.
:mowmeep However, it seems Abel is a bit stubborn at the moment, and would not cooperate in most things if forced. Whisking him to Saia is not an option, since he probably would set his mind in a non-cooperative mode there. Saia will be contacted, but what happens to him has yet to be seen ...
kaskar, have you -ever- considered editing your quotes? Even for a moment?
Or is it just something that other people do?
Quote from: kaskar on June 11, 2007, 02:03:35 AM
Cid was never Abel's father. Aniz, after killing Cid, shapeshifted himself to look like " Cid " . After 25 years, Aniz now sees that Abel has turned into ' (for the moment a rather inept), Cubi . His job as "Cid" is done. Now he can stretch his wings ...
I give a high likelyhood that Aniz is Abel's father, but I'm not going to commit to a 100% probability on that yet. He's made comments about stuff "for the future", but he hasn't used language like "son" yet. So Aniz could be the father, or he could have been a sit-in for another cubi who did the deed with May. That said, it looks like Aniz took his kid gloves off in the last panel. I hope the medical staff at SAIA are on duty...
[edited because I hit Enter too early]
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on June 12, 2007, 07:56:38 AM
I give a high likelyhood that Aniz is Abel's father, but I'm not going to commit to a 100% probability on that yet. He's made comments about stuff "for the future", but he hasn't used language like "son" yet.
It would explain the wings if he wasn't, but Aniz has got to be related to Abel's father in some way otherwise they wouldn't have the same clan marking.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 12, 2007, 07:15:08 AM
kaskar, have you -ever- considered editing your quotes? Even for a moment?
Or is it just something that other people do?
( I will try ... )
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 12, 2007, 08:01:59 AM
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on June 12, 2007, 07:56:38 AM
I give a high likelyhood that Aniz is Abel's father, but I'm not going to commit to a 100% probability on that yet. He's made comments about stuff "for the future", but he hasn't used language like "son" yet.
It would explain the wings if he wasn't, but Aniz has got to be related to Abel's father in some way otherwise they wouldn't have the same clan marking.
Since, (as in Abel's profile shows in the cast) , his Clan is fragmented to almost non - existance, I find that Aniz would probably be Abel's father.
I think we're pretty clear in the fact that Abel was conceived after Cid's death. Just being around Aniz after being born wouldn't be enough to turn him into an Incubus. He'd have to be born that way which means he's the child of May and Aniz.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 12, 2007, 04:11:34 AMAs for Fa'Lina, Aary reckons she never leaves the Academy so it's more likely that Aniz is going to bring Abel to her.
But Fa'Lina did leave the academy to pick up Dan.
Quote from: Naldru on June 12, 2007, 09:52:52 AM
But Fa'Lina did leave the academy to pick up Dan.
I think Dan was a very special case. In any case, Aary was amazed at the time: ("She actually
left the Academy???")
That's because he didn't respond to the letter he got after aaryanna got him applied, and then the whole deal with the warp aci.
Quote from: BillBuckner on June 11, 2007, 07:19:45 PM
"Keaton (The Black Jackal) was Keyser Soze!"
They're on to me! D:
*sets Wikipedia on fire and disposes of the evidence*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Hmmm well least they havent caught onto me...:shifty
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 12, 2007, 08:01:59 AMIt would explain the wings if he wasn't, but Aniz has got to be related to Abel's father in some way otherwise they wouldn't have the same clan marking.
Unless it's not a real clan marking.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 12, 2007, 09:56:49 AMI think Dan was a very special case. In any case, Aary was amazed at the time: ("She actually left the Academy???")
She also left when Fi told her about the dragon and stayed long enough to meet up with Abel, but from everything we're heard, it sounds like those were unusual cases.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 12, 2007, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on June 11, 2007, 07:19:45 PM
"Keaton (The Black Jackal) was Keyser Soze!"
They're on to me! D:
*sets Wikipedia on fire and disposes of the evidence*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You can set webpages on fire? WHY was I not informed???
Quote from: Netrogo on June 12, 2007, 04:37:34 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 12, 2007, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on June 11, 2007, 07:19:45 PM
"Keaton (The Black Jackal) was Keyser Soze!"
They're on to me! D:
*sets Wikipedia on fire and disposes of the evidence*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You can set webpages on fire? WHY was I not informed???
What do you think firewalls are for? :paranoid
Quote from: Netrogo on June 12, 2007, 04:37:34 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on June 12, 2007, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on June 11, 2007, 07:19:45 PM
"Keaton (The Black Jackal) was Keyser Soze!"
They're on to me! D:
*sets Wikipedia on fire and disposes of the evidence*
~Keaton the Black Jackal
You can set webpages on fire? WHY was I not informed???
You can set server banks on fire. :B
OK, lemme get this straight.
PBH shares my love for creepy elegant sadists, Keaton has a wanted poster on Wikipedia (which means Google has one too - good luck, Keaton!), Abel went WWF on Aniz, who doesn't seem too displeased, and all this was because of Fa'Lina somehow.
:bemused and somewhat envious smirk
Damn, I wanna be evil.
Sorry, we're all full up.
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 12, 2007, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: Naldru on June 12, 2007, 09:52:52 AM
But Fa'Lina did leave the academy to pick up Dan.
I think Dan was a very special case. In any case, Aary was amazed at the time: ("She actually left the Academy???")
I have to agree. Sometimes when the characters mock a situation, like when Aaryana said something about Fa'lina grabbing Dan because being a half breed cubi had world-affecting reprecussions if he wasn't contained properly -- or some junk, isn't some sort of foreshadowing. Very seldome do I not scrutenize what the characters have to say.
And as for Abel and Aniz's relationship, they're definitely of the same clan. But does being the same clean meaning that they're genetically related? Like I said, I give a high probability that Aniz is Abel's father, but there's always an odd chance (and there really isn't anything I can think of that was brought up in Abel's story) that someone else is the father and Aniz was assigned to watch over Abel's development. For all we know, Aniz might be a distant relative. Since we're all thinking Aniz is his daddy, it would be worthy of Amber's "Plot Twist Dance".
I guess we'll see what happens next episode. I suspect Abel's going to get the crud beat out of him much like Aaryana did after he de'dressu'd her. How far Aniz goes may be somewhat telling of how the two really are related and whatever degree of attachment Aniz has for Abel. (of course, child abuse is a reality, so using that as a baseline might not be valid.)
Remember Aniz has a million ways he can choose to subdue Abel. He could get physically violent, or he can emotion jam him into submission. We saw how Abel used it to incapicate Dan with laughter. Imagine what a more sinister mind could do with the defenseless.
Let us presume that Abel stayed at home until May died of old age. In #712 -713, Destina points out that Abel was always stubborn, and how she had to show him how to suvive ( As a Cubi ? ) In the cast profile of Abel, and also in the early shots of Abel, It seems that Fa'lina was more a motherly support figure to him at Saia. Therefore, I presume that Abel, with advice from Destina, went into what seems seclusion at Saia. The normal pages happen about 375 years ater...
Aniz probably has a barrier up. That's what I'd do, and it makes sense... If you're a coward.
Quote from: Kenji on June 09, 2007, 12:27:53 AM
It broke far too easily.
Aniz must've thought ahead and used some stool softener.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Goatmon/20040820l.jpg)
Quote from: The DXM on June 19, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
Aniz probably has a barrier up. That's what I'd do, and it makes sense... If you're a coward.
Or just lazy. Dodging takes too much effort.
Quote from: Goatmon on June 24, 2007, 03:18:44 AM
Quote from: The DXM on June 19, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
Aniz probably has a barrier up. That's what I'd do, and it makes sense... If you're a coward.
Or just lazy. Dodging takes too much effort.
Ya, that's true. :)
:mowmeep Ah well , the kid missed once . Is this where Aniz forceably puts a bit of sense into the blithering Abel ?