Lookie here! If there is or was any life on Mars, these caves will very likely hold the answers! And these could be ideal places for human bases... until they all belong to us! >:3
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070606/sc_space/deepholefoundonmars
Now, how to explore them? That's gonna be really tricky, but the holes are large enough to fly small remote gliders (with big wings to catch the ephemeral atmosphere) into... though a human might have to be present regardless for quick reaction time in case of bumpy thermal currents.
If you're going to send people there, one may as well set up a small base on the surface and lower a buoy/probe down on some kind of high-tensile rope or somethin'. :P
Much more effective than, say, gliders.
Caveat emptor
I smell a plan done by the dreded Deceptiacreeps
Maybe they're not caves at all... maybe they're circular monoliths! :U Which, uhm... fell over. Yep.
My God... it's full of furries! Srsly... OMGWTF Furries! :giggle
I hope there's something there that we can blow up.
It's a giant door... with giant transforming robots inside. :|
its a meth lab imo.
Well they're always saying that crime is several steps ahead of law enforcement :erk
No, we shouldn't send a human down there. He'll be attacked by a face-hugger and then xenomorphs will invade Earth.
Life on Mars? :U I love that series.
:mowninja Is there Intelligent life on Mars ? If it was Intelligent, it would do it's best to keep away from us ...
Quote from: kaskar on June 07, 2007, 04:13:21 AM
:mowninja Is there Intelligent life on Mars ? If it was Intelligent, it would do it's best to keep away from us ...
how deep
There is no intelligent life on Mars. It was not warm nearly long enough for anything other than microbes to evolve, if indeed they ever did. It's magnetic field also likely vanished within a few hundred million years as well as, thus any surface life would have soon been bombarded by unfiltered cosmic and solar radiation.
look,s like a job for captain planet :P
Or Ted Turner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYFu__Q9ASU).
Intelligent life on Mars? Hell, the jury's still out on intelligent life on Earth.
Quote from: TheGreyRonin on June 07, 2007, 10:07:43 PM
Intelligent life on Mars? Hell, the jury's still out on intelligent life on Earth.
I R HEAR! ME R sMarT! :B
8) If you came from mars, would you dare show your face here ?
Quote from: kaskar on June 08, 2007, 07:32:01 AM
8) If you came from mars, would you dare show your face here ?
They wouldn't, cuz everyone knows Martians are butt-ugly muthas! :B
Quote from: TheGreyRonin on June 07, 2007, 10:07:43 PM
Intelligent life on Mars? Hell, the jury's still out on intelligent life on Earth.
The jury isn't out. It's come back, delivered the verdict, finished the case, cleared the court, and is down the road enjoying some time off with the judge in a jacuzzi.
Intelligent life left earth when the dinosaurs died out.
What's that make us then :U
Something entirely different.
well there could be microbes. I mean hell, look at the bizzare places microscopic life has turned up here on earth! An artical I read the other day found them living inside a volcano, lol. But I doubt there is anything more complicated then that, much less intelligent life, unless they are all cryogenically frozen benieth the Martian surface o.o
I still think it'd be cool if it turned out there was this highly advanced race living beneath the surface of Mars in some kind of highly advance atmosphere resistant living place.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 08, 2007, 09:56:40 PM
I still think it'd be cool if it turned out there was this highly advanced race living beneath the surface of Mars in some kind of highly advance atmosphere resistant living place.
Mmm-hmm. I do hope you're not actually willing to entertain such ideas even after we've been studying Mars this long. There is absolutely no possibility of advanced life on Mars other than humans going there to take a look around. It probably lost its atmosphere well before even the most basic multicellular forms evolved. It's possible there wouldn't have even been enough time for eukaryotes at all.
Perhaps, but who's to say they didn't just make it look that way to keep others from going near their planet?
Quote from: Netrogo on June 08, 2007, 11:00:51 PMPerhaps, but who's to say they didn't just make it look that way to keep others from going near their planet?
Seismographic readings?
We must declare... MARTIAN LAW!
Quote from: superluser on June 08, 2007, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: Netrogo on June 08, 2007, 11:00:51 PMPerhaps, but who's to say they didn't just make it look that way to keep others from going near their planet?
Seismographic readings?
We've done those on Mars? Not to mention if a species is advanced enough to survive this long beneath the surface they're probably advanced enough to keep us from finding them >:3
Quote from: Netrogo on June 08, 2007, 11:41:09 PMQuote from: superluser on June 08, 2007, 11:11:01 PMSeismographic readings?
We've done those on Mars?
Viking 1 and 2.
Quote from: Netrogo on June 08, 2007, 11:41:09 PMNot to mention if a species is advanced enough to survive this long beneath the surface they're probably advanced enough to keep us from finding them >:3
Why? There's no evidence of any advanced civilization on the surface of Mars, and they certainly wouldn't have started hiding from us until they could see us--which would have been no earlier than 1895 with Guglielmo Marconi.
Everyone just seems to want to be a tourist in space. Look at what happened with the Apollo Missions ...
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041107&mode=classic
Leaps into mind.
Also another one someone did, with a couple of martians standing around the Mars rover, holding a lard panel with a picture of blank desert on it... in the background, hidden from the rover by the panel, is a large city, things flying through the sky, etc etc
8) Someone made the comment that, if the rover did the same tests for life as it for mars in my front yard, it would be classed " biologically dead " . The tests are not realistic ...
I trust "Someone", he's a very reliable source.
I'm sure Someone trusts you too Bill.
Ugh. If you're going to foster notions that Mars has an advanced civilization that managed to evolve in less time than it took for us to get nematodes on this planet still hiding underground, why do you all just join Scientology and get it over with? :rolleyes
The difference is that I like my little fantasies and perceptions that maybe there's something out there. Scientology is a bunch of retards who fully believe a space warlord killed a whole bunch of somethings who's souls drifted down to the earth.
There's still nothing on mars.
True, but there's the possibility of stuff further away.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 09, 2007, 01:50:04 PM
True, but there's the possibility of stuff further away.
I'll agree with that.
Quote from: Alondro on June 09, 2007, 10:36:57 AM
Ugh. If you're going to foster notions that Mars has an advanced civilization that managed to evolve in less time than it took for us to get nematodes on this planet still hiding underground, why do you all just join Scientology and get it over with? :rolleyes
Hrm. Maybe because life on earth got knocked right back to bedrock after the dinosaurs were wiped out. I mean that was only what, how many millions of years worth of time extra for their clock?
sorry, just playin devils advocate. I encorage Scientologests to prove advanced life under the sea, in person. With lead weights. >.>
Actually that's a good point Fero. I mean what if life on Mars was already developing when the dinosaurs were around here. If their life at that time didn't get wiped out when the dinos did then theirs would have continued progressing when we were just starting out.
*grrr :headdesk* Mars probably had an atmosphere of similar density to Earth's for a very brief time. It would have become as desolate as it is now LONG BEFORE the dinosaurs had come to be. How long? Possibly hundreds of millions of years before! I suggest reading some actual astronomic data on Mars' history.
There is absolutely, positively, beyond any shadow of doubt that no advanced life forms had time to evolve on Mars, no matter how wishful the thinking.
But if you really want to fantasize, you could say that the center of Mars is filled with Cybermen just waiting for us to awaken them and take over Earth.
Hey! There's no proof that that isn't the case! :B
uhh, quick question. Atmosphere with regards to life on mars hold what meaning, exactly? At the very least, Microscopic life can exist in a variety of pressures, temperatures, and material. Who says that Eukaryotes have to form in an earth-like atmosphere? hell, some Eukaryote, and even multicellular forms of life have been discovered in some pretty bizzare places. If you really want me to reference, I will be happy to go through my old Uni notes.
Im not saying we can expect little green men with their flying saucers around and about the place, but we also shouldnt completely rule out the formation of Some animal life on mars. even, say, some kind of rock worm. *shrugs* its a possibility.
Y'know what's great? Having all kinds of semi delusional theories and a good friend who's a molecular biologist to back them up when need be :mwaha