A lot of people have assumed that Abel is feminine because he's gay, but I have a theory that's less obvious and more interesting.
I believe Abel is subconsciously acting more like his mother so he can feel closer to her and distance himself from his father.
What do you think?
I think this is a common theme among Amber's male cast. Such as this example. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_202.php)
Abel just wants to be like Devin. Except...less dead.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 19, 2007, 09:29:00 AM
Abel just wants to be like Devin. Except...less dead.
Though of course we're only
assuming the latter ;)
Oh, I do so hope Devin's still alive. Though...with the...pain and bleeding and glazed eyes and whatnot...well.
Don't worry, you can just write a fanfiction in which your character swoops in and saves them at the last second! Hooray!
It'd end up being the Abel's Arch version of "Misery", featuring Devin as the patient.
Abel acts feminine because he looks smashing in a skirt.
Abel? Feminine? :mowdizzy
Abel acts Feminie because he's me in a past life...
You have to reincarnate several times to reach this level of gayness
"Paging Dr. Freud, Paging Dr. Freud..."
I personally don't see anything pointing to what this thread assumes...
And no, TGH, you seem to have misplaced the (modern) definition of gay.
Bah! Abel's not feminie, he's manly! All that sniping and grousing is very masculine if you ask me. ~Physically~ Abel's pretty androgynous but he was like that back here:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_27.php
(At which point, I might ad, I was worried it would turn out that this was Jailbait Abelcake which would cause me to have to take lots and lots of extremely cold showers...)
But I basically think of Abel as having some very physically androgynous features (sexy curvy hips, shapely back, pretty hair... mmm... 'scuse me..) and a snitty verbal edge which people tend to construe as feminine but which is really a classic "jerky boy" behavior, induced by long centuries trying to avoid getting close to people so he won't be hurt when he loses them.
Of course if it turns out that Devin escaped alive, and Abel lived out a long, yaoi-packed few decades with him a la Highlander during which he picked up many of his mannerisms, I would certainly not complain.
Nope, not one bit.
doesn't amber draw everyone that way?
Quote from: Wussycat on May 19, 2007, 09:11:33 AM
I believe Abel is subconsciously acting more like his mother so he can feel closer to her and distance himself from his father.
And him being gay means he subconsciously wants to bang his dad!
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 19, 2007, 03:47:23 PM
I personally don't see anything pointing to what this thread assumes...
And no, TGH, you seem to have misplaced the (modern) definition of gay.
sorry I'm a bit confused about what your saying there hon
Then forget it. It wasn't really important.
Maybe... someone can be gay and not like the color pink, being a queen, frilly things, starbucks, lisps, girly screeching... Maybe someone can enjoy those things and not be gay.
Eh, maybe not.
Quote from: Netami on May 19, 2007, 06:23:21 PM
Maybe... someone can be gay and not like the color pink, being a queen, frilly things, starbucks, lisps, girly screeching... Maybe someone can enjoy those things and not be gay.
Eh, maybe not.
ohh of course Abel doesn't do any of that... set the skirt wearing and girly screams
and neither do I ... cept maybe for the pink
the whole thing was in fun... jeeze and then some one comes along all serous like and has to wreak it
Well I dont have much but I know we will find out soon or later
Quote from: thegayhare on May 19, 2007, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: Netami on May 19, 2007, 06:23:21 PM
Maybe... someone can be gay and not like the color pink, being a queen, frilly things, starbucks, lisps, girly screeching... Maybe someone can enjoy those things and not be gay.
Eh, maybe not.
ohh of course Abel doesn't do any of that... set the skirt wearing and girly screams
and neither do I ... cept maybe for the pink
the whole thing was in fun... jeeze and then some one comes along all serous like and has to wreak it
Didn't you use to work as a butcher? Like all stereotypical gay men. D:
Bah, skirts are just as manly as anything else. He probably wears it because its a turn on for his prey(he is an incubus). >:3
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
Ignore her! Stygian demands a picture of gymnast-Abel! Female and male!
...
I demand hair-dresser Abel! CONFORM TO STEREOTYPES!!!
I demand a picture of body-builder!RJ.
I demand Cake
moist and tastey cake
Quote from: thegayhare on May 19, 2007, 10:04:47 PM
I demand Cake
moist and tastey cake
But you're the one who makes cake!
I'm still waiting for my god damn cake.
"How is it you can manage to be manly tough and yet so feminine all at once?!"
"Well... my mother was a lady, and my father was a man."
Yes, I'm lame. :B Enjoy it while you can.
It was lame... but at the same time it made me laugh.
Quote from: BillBuckner on May 19, 2007, 10:15:53 PM
I'm still waiting for my god damn cake.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Zinacat/random/117405669660.jpg)
Whups, wrong cake.
Wait a minute, now we have decisive evidence that Abel is gay and not metrosexual/bisexual? When and where did this happen?
It's in my house, in a binder on a desk marked "Eye of the Tiger"
Quote from: Kattuccino on May 19, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Wait a minute, now we have decisive evidence that Abel is gay and not metrosexual/bisexual? When and where did this happen?
I was wondering the exact same thing.
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
You have NO idea what you have just unleashed on my brain.
Quote from: King Of Hearts on May 20, 2007, 05:34:08 AM
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
You have NO idea what you have just unleashed on my brain.
Oh, I think she does. >:-]
Quote from: Rythak on May 20, 2007, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: Kattuccino on May 19, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Wait a minute, now we have decisive evidence that Abel is gay and not metrosexual/bisexual? When and where did this happen?
I was wondering the exact same thing.
It came out of my mouth, it has to be true.
Quote from: Rythak on May 20, 2007, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: Kattuccino on May 19, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Wait a minute, now we have decisive evidence that Abel is gay and not metrosexual/bisexual? When and where did this happen?
:mowwinkQuote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 20, 2007, 05:43:20 AM
Quote from: King Of Hearts on May 20, 2007, 05:34:08 AM
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel. :mowmeep
You have NO idea what you have just unleashed on my brain. :mowhappy
Oh, I think she does. >:-]
:mowsmile
But do we really know anything from that? Remember when he read 'Letter to the Editor', and was about to prove his masculinity. He was stuffed into the waste paper basket by Fa'lina for trying that . He tried :to show how masculine he was. He just got stuffed for his manhood. :mowninja
Quote from: Xeksue on May 19, 2007, 08:50:38 PM
Bah, skirts are just as manly as anything else. He probably wears it because its a turn on for his prey(he is an incubus). >:3
It's not a skirt, it's a Kilt!
Quote from: Taerkar on May 20, 2007, 06:37:41 AM
Quote from: Xeksue on May 19, 2007, 08:50:38 PM
Bah, skirts are just as manly as anything else. He probably wears it because its a turn on for his prey(he is an incubus). >:3
It's not a skirt, it's a Kilt!
Japanese Schoolgirls wear Scottish Kilts?
Quote from: King Of Hearts on May 20, 2007, 06:47:56 AM
Japanese Schoolgirls wear Scottish Kilts?
Never know with Japan...
(It's an old simpsons joke)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 20, 2007, 05:43:20 AM
Quote from: King Of Hearts on May 20, 2007, 05:34:08 AM
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
:mowwink
You have NO idea what you have just unleashed on my brain.
:mowsmile
Oh, I think she does. >:-]
:mowhappy
Abel doesn't have to be overly masculine to be male. As to his femininity, can this be a misconstrued aloofness, or any other reason that a Cubi like him be feeling ... :mowninja
In all seriousness (I know, I know...), I'd suspect a blurring of gender norms in a society that can shapeshift, though having said that, Aniz doesn't seem that feminine...
But damnit, I really like his shirt... >:3
Quote from: Zina on May 19, 2007, 09:22:57 PM
I demand a picture of body-builder!RJ.
I tried to cheat and get a picture of Sandy Cheeks from Spongebob, but I couldn't find anything. :<
Quote from: RJ on May 20, 2007, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: Zina on May 19, 2007, 09:22:57 PM
I demand a picture of body-builder!RJ.
I tried to cheat and get a picture of Sandy Cheeks from Spongebob, but I couldn't find anything. :<
Bad RJ! Cheating is wrong. You're supposed to just win with assistance.
I can't even open jars without special instruments... :<
I can turn on all the lights in my house! :B
Quote from: RJ on May 20, 2007, 11:25:52 AM
I can't even open jars without special instruments... :<
Hammers aren't special instruments. It's part of their intended role!
In case of (jar) emergency, break glass.
Quote from: rabid_fox on May 19, 2007, 12:39:48 PM
Oh, I do so hope Devin's still alive. Though...with the...pain and bleeding and glazed eyes and whatnot...well.
In a world with Resurrection spells, you can avoid death for as long as you can afford the bill.
Quote from: RJ on May 20, 2007, 11:25:52 AMI can't even open jars without special instruments... :<
Aw, geez. If it's hand trouble, have you seen http://www.disabledhands.com/ ? They're not updating it anymore, but it's got tons of cool stuff.
(I am not affiliated in any way with disabledhands, and I don't think they're affiliated with the products that they reviewed.)
Quote from: RJ on May 20, 2007, 11:25:52 AM
I can't even open jars without special instruments... :<
My mom solved that problem by having sons.
Quote from: Fuyudenki on May 20, 2007, 03:03:25 PM
Quote from: RJ on May 20, 2007, 11:25:52 AM
I can't even open jars without special instruments... :<
My mom solved that problem by having sons.
and thus we men perform our main duty on this world... Again.
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
careful what you wish for...
(http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/upload0507/2007520_2349144844_abel_body.jpg)
/me goes to hide under a very large rock...
Body-Builder Abel, not Moderately-strong-looking Abel.
An evil scientist Abel that builds bodies!
Quote from: Talashar on May 20, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: RJ on May 19, 2007, 09:09:56 PM
RJ demands a picture of a body-builder!Abel.
careful what you wish for...
(http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/upload0507/2007520_2349144844_abel_body.jpg)
/me goes to hide under a very large rock...
Oh snap they cuted off his head and stuck it on a giant ribbed meated man!
Either that or he fused with Daimien, and Abel's fur color crossed with Daimien's fur color to create a spotless, tan body. That would also explain how he lost the tail.
Quote from: Talashar on May 20, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
careful what you wish for...
(http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/upload0507/2007520_2349144844_abel_body.jpg)
The :erk look on his face suggests he's just got a look at himself in a mirror, and he's wondering which of us forum denizens to blame... ;)
(Pic deleted 'cause I got negrated for it, although possibly due to slight off-topicness more than it being perverted.)
(Although it certainly WAS.)
(But we all know what a pervy Abel fancier I am.) :B
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on May 20, 2007, 06:46:08 PM
(Pic deleted 'cause I got negrated for it, although possibly due to slight off-topicness more than it being perverted.)
(Although it certainly WAS.)
Oooh! Can you put it somewheres else? «bats eyelashes»
:)
Quote from: candide on May 20, 2007, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on May 20, 2007, 06:46:08 PM
(Pic deleted 'cause I got negrated for it, although possibly due to slight off-topicness more than it being perverted.)
(Although it certainly WAS.)
Oooh! Can you put it somewheres else? «bats eyelashes»
:)
Already on my LiveJournal -__-
Seems you are confusing the term 'femininity', with not being butch at times ... May just be like how many times you want to want to play a stupid 'macho' . :mowsmile Look at Dan as an example . Abel does not seem too much a pansy with him Dan does not act the way, ( well he does ), just to act masculine, ( if so, he is botching a good job ... ) , he seems to act the way he does out of instinct of a true idiot ... :mowhappy
Quote from: Netami on May 20, 2007, 06:05:19 AM
Quote from: Rythak on May 20, 2007, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: Kattuccino on May 19, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Wait a minute, now we have decisive evidence that Abel is gay and not metrosexual/bisexual? When and where did this happen?
I was wondering the exact same thing.
It came out of my mouth, it has to be true.
Quote from: Wussycat on May 19, 2007, 09:11:33 AM
A lot of people have assumed that Abel is feminine because he's gay, but I have a theory that's less obvious and more interesting. I believe Abel is subconsciously acting more like his mother so he can feel closer to her and distance himself from his father. What do you think? :mowmeep
Quote from: Ellyriun on May 20, 2007, 08:21:47 AM
In all seriousness (I know, I know...), I'd suspect a blurring of gender norms in a society that can shapeshift, though having said that, Aniz doesn't seem that feminine... But damnit, I really like his shirt... >:3 :mowninja
Out of curiousity, when did the feeling that Abel was gay first come in? Abel could just be suffering from what is known as the 'mommy's boy' syndrome. This would explain his status with May and later. Fa'lina ...
:mowhappy Rember, his mother was May, and at S.A.I.A. , he was seemingly adopted by Fa'lina. Does Fa'lina have a motherly side to her omnipresence ? Remember the page where the warp-aci failed to return with Dan to S.A.I.A, and he had to read up on his new roommate, Dan. Remember Plan 'B' , and also remember Fa'lina's comment to Abel, Oh Abel , thorn in my side ... :mowwink
( I apologise for using two posts in such a short time. However, I cannot put all that I wanted to say in
one post. I hope that this will be treated as an isolated incident only caused due to lack of page space ... )
Yours ... Kaskar :mowninja
Quote from: kaskar on May 21, 2007, 12:13:19 AM
[snip] Does Fa'lina have a motherly side to her [/snip]
It's amazing how easily people forget about Pyroduck. :B
Yes so sad to wonder whats next on the meal of the big queen anyhow? ;)
Quote from: Kenji on May 20, 2007, 06:34:25 PM
Either that or he fused with Daimien, and Abel's fur color crossed with Daimien's fur color to create a spotless, tan body. That would also explain how he lost the tail.
Sorry, I'm nowhere near enough of an artist to add a tail (at least not without seriously
infringing on Amber's copyright). the best I can do is give him wings (http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/upload0507/2007521_11455326379_wingsnotail.jpg)
bah, someone beat me to it.
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k124/Tohofuhai71/Abel-1.jpg)
Jesus...!
What's the scouter say about his power level?
/me snickers at Netami*
NO ROLE PLAYING IN THE GODDA-- GARTHBROOKS THREADS!
I say its about right... :love2
Both hands on the keyboard, Zedd...
:paranoid
:I
:O
:I
:O
xD
:sweatdrop
:blankstare
You say that Abel is Gay ! I wonder what would have happened if, while reading letters to the editor, he had not been pummelled by Fa'lina, and had gone on to do as he said in proving he was all man ?
Man or not has nothing to do with his gender preferences, kaskar.
Despite all everyone has said, it's still entirely hidden as to his personal proclivities. I await Amber's response with some trepidation... (ie, we don't know if he's gay, stop taking it so seriously, all you guys. ;-] )
Quote from: Netami on May 21, 2007, 05:38:21 AM
Jesus...!
What's the scouter say about his power level?
It's over nine thousaaaaaaand! :o
'strue, the only thing we know about Abel's sexual orientation is that squeally fangirls cause him to freak out when they molest him, but that could just mean they're not his bag, baby.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_537.php
Sure are mine, tho. ROWR.
Quote from: RJ on May 21, 2007, 09:47:11 AM
Quote from: Netami on May 21, 2007, 05:38:21 AM
Jesus...!
What's the scouter say about his power level?
It's over nine thousaaaaaaand! :o
WHAT NINE THOUSAND?!!
Yes, my blood pressure is now over 9000. ******* memes. >(
Edit:
*cough* language, Bill. :-P --
It's what we're here for. :3
When I see Abel...I swear I hear Tarzan boy by Baltimora or some Oingo boingo
Bad Bill. Language.
Yeah, no swearing in front of the children.
My poor puppy ears :cry Uncle Bill is so mean
f*** that motherf***ing s***.
Well, f*ck derives from the anglo-saxon flokken (spelling is iffy, sorry), meaning "to hit or beat", so, in essence, you could say:
Flog the motherfloggin poo
...and be okay in this forum, while still being true to the spirit of what you wanted to say.
That's f***ed up, yo.
Flog yeah, yo.
Flog that poo.
Quote from: Darkmoon on May 21, 2007, 08:59:08 PMWell, f*ck derives from the anglo-saxon flokken (spelling is iffy, sorry), meaning "to hit or beat"
Never heard that before. The Oxford English Dictionary says that it appears to be related to a nonexistent Middle English word, but that its ulterior etymology is unknown. No ties to a similar German word can be established.
PS:
Quote from: Bill's sig(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8657/scientologygz3.gif)
LOL WUT?
:nitpick
In other words, it was probably a joke.
It derives from old english/anglo-saxon word "fickien", derived from a composition text book, back about 10 years ago. It may not be the final answer on the etymology of the word, although it is one scholarly suggestion.
The reason why Oxford doesn't have it is likely because it's not the final answer on the word.
Oh, and flog you, arse wipe.
Back on to the subject though..Ever anyone notice what a nice warm waist of a frame Abel has? Maybe thats the reason why Amber gave him a swell looking skirt/kilt
Quote from: superluser on May 21, 2007, 09:22:49 PM
PS:
Quote from: Bill's sig(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8657/scientologygz3.gif)
LOL WUT?
It was an April Fools Day joke that an independent NASCAR news site put out. Predictably enough, lots of people believed it.
It's a parody of both NASCAR having an "Official [blank] of NASCAR" for every conceivable item, and of some controversy when Scientologists actually decided to sponsor a NASCAR dirt track car at a short-track DWS race.
Pity, really. I liked your car.
Did the Scientology car win?
Quote from: thegayhare on May 19, 2007, 03:08:52 PM
Abel acts Feminie because he's me in a past life...
You have to reincarnate several times to reach this level of gayness
Say what you will, but there is no way you can out gay This man. (http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/5552/73085.jpg)
:mowmeep Just because Abel does not try to push his masculinity, does not mean he is feminine. As he points out, after living 300 years alone, he has it down to an art. He is more like a loner, and as such has no real attachments ... He only lives there as a scholar.
Abel's look could be from inherant incubi appearance. i.e: The "Bishie" factor.
i haven't seen any 'cubi built like the proverbial brick outhouse, yet, have you?
Quote from: Illusionist on June 05, 2007, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on May 19, 2007, 03:08:52 PM
Abel acts Feminie because he's me in a past life...
You have to reincarnate several times to reach this level of gayness
Say what you will, but there is no way you can out gay This man. (http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/5552/73085.jpg)
You know people you gotta stop coming into my house and taking pictures of me...Geeze
Muh...Mister Halford, sir? Can I have your autograph?
Okay, I'm gonna add my 2 cents about this ^^;
First of all, we know that Abel is an Incubus. While Abel's little speech here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_524.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_524.php)) indicates that not all cubi are into the whole "rape for food" thing... it almost seems to be that there is still some kind of focus on sexuality (well, as much a focus as this comic can get.) One bit of evidence about this was that Dan's robe had to be modified, and in the end, it showed more skin than it did before. Also, there seem to be classes involving regular fursons as subjects, such as here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_530.php (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_530.php)). I dunno about you, but that furson doesn't look too terrified with his situation there.
(As far as the whole clothing thing, I know that none of the clothing that Dan tried on in the changing room was that revealing, but it was mostly a montage anyways. Still, it's a chink in my argument)
As for where I am going with this... since Cubi still seem to have that subtle level of sexuality... maybe it's a requirement for all Cubi to be bisexual.
Dan would be an exception (for now?) because he isn't exactly with the cubi loop. Not to mention he was only at the academy for... what, a day or two? Not to mention he's pretty resistant to the whole idea of being an incubus.
Well, that's my hypothesis, at least.
As far as Abel's Story itself goes... some guys can be feminine and still be straight. Just because you're a "fairy queen" doesn't mean you have to go after guys >>
Also, is it just me, or is his funeral clothing a little feminine as well?
Or, he could even be asexual. Who knows?
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_526.php 'nuff said, really.
Fact is..Not sure whos the bigger poof...Me or Abel. And I am saying what I ment. It could be a tie neverless
Quote from: Zachski on June 06, 2007, 12:03:21 PM
As for where I am going with this... since Cubi still seem to have that subtle level of sexuality... maybe it's a requirement for all Cubi to be bisexual.
Most 'Cubi who attend SAIA are liable to spend the best part of 400 years in an academy among shapeshifters who are permanently twenty-something. I would imagine that if you were the slightest bit prone to such things you would have experimented at least once in that kind of time period. That's my theory, anyway...
Wha? Since when does "steal souls" translate to "rape for food"?
Quote from: BillBuckner on May 22, 2007, 06:18:05 PM
(http://llearch.net/misc//USBM_warning.gif)
Love that sig, BB. Can use it?
:mowhappy
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on June 06, 2007, 01:10:22 PM
Wha? Since when does "steal souls" translate to "rape for food"?
Because "hot sexy
seductress" came right before it. That
is the traditional image, after all.
Rape for food reminds me of those McDonald's adds that said 'Yeah, I'd hit it.' :giggle
"Rape for Food" would be the best charity ever.
Who was that female that attacked Dan while the test was on, and just leaped out on Abel, when just entering their room ? Abel says, you will see, we are all a bit like family here...
Quote from: Zedd on June 06, 2007, 10:34:39 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on June 05, 2007, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on May 19, 2007, 03:08:52 PM
Abel acts Feminie because he's me in a past life...
You have to reincarnate several times to reach this level of gayness
Say what you will, but there is no way you can out gay This man. (http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/5552/73085.jpg)
You know people you gotta stop coming into my house and taking pictures of me...Geeze
http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000E40QQA.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Gay? Try Hard Gay!
Foooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
:zombiekun2
Quote from: King Of Hearts on June 07, 2007, 05:30:29 AM
Quote from: Zedd on June 06, 2007, 10:34:39 AM
Quote from: Illusionist on June 05, 2007, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on May 19, 2007, 03:08:52 PM
Abel acts Feminie because he's me in a past life...
You have to reincarnate several times to reach this level of gayness
Say what you will, but there is no way you can out gay This man. (http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/5552/73085.jpg)
You know people you gotta stop coming into my house and taking pictures of me...Geeze
http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000E40QQA.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Gay? Try Hard Gay!
Just hope there is hope for mankind after all or someone is gonna get hosed (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/Files%20of%20random/hosed.jpg)
most 'cubi are prolly most likely bi anyways, since the actual emotional rush from their partner would prolly be all they need.. however, others might be either straight, Gay, or even asexual, depending on their overall personality, preferences, and such.
chances are, Abel just likes to make the lads uncomfortable, and tease the ladies with his bishie looks. :P
I'm really starting to wonder what sexual orientation has to do with everything ELSE you guys are talking about >.>
Apart from being close to Fa'lina, he seems a loner that likes to make trouble
Quote from: BillBuckner on June 06, 2007, 09:30:06 PM
"Rape for Food" would be the best charity ever.
I wonder if we could get The RFF sanctioned as a ligitamate charity :mwaha
Abel cares about how he looks, more so that most men. We can see this from a rather young age so this is not something he has picked up at SAIA.
I think that the reason he does is that he can sense the reaction others have to him. Most people want to make a good impression, but we generally don't know what other people thinks of us. Abel knows, and I think he subconsciously knew even before his head-wings popped up.
The same would hold for most cubi, though some simply wouldn't care.
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on June 07, 2007, 09:18:03 AM
Abel cares about how he looks, more so that most men. We can see this from a rather young age so this is not something he has picked up at SAIA.
Vanity and fashion-consciousness would seem to be a basic trait of most 'Cubi. The demonology doesn't quite say this explicitly but it seems to be a pretty safe bet.
I would guess that it would also have the anti-fashion-conscious type, where the 'Cubi in question deliberately go out of their way to be -not- fashionable...
Sort of the other end of the scale, as it were.
Interesting concept - able to sense other people's like or dislike, and aiming for dislike...
This place...weirds me the heck out. Why do I feel so natural hanging here, then...?
The TRUE 'nuff said. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_748.php) Though...I guess that one applies to Abel AND Dan, doesn't it? Bah. Then again, that's Jyrras...you know, we could make this topic about all three of them regarding men acting feminine so easily. >:3 Back on topic, Abel's really color-coordinated (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_547.php) and whatnot (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_600.php), as well (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_601.php), which is something that "masculine men" apparently are not, correct?*
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 06, 2007, 12:39:32 PMQuote from: Zachski on June 06, 2007, 12:03:21 PMAs for where I am going with this... since Cubi still seem to have that subtle level of sexuality... maybe it's a requirement for all Cubi to be bisexual.
Most 'Cubi who attend SAIA are liable to spend the best part of 400 years in an academy among shapeshifters who are permanently twenty-something. I would imagine that if you were the slightest bit prone to such things you would have experimented at least once in that kind of time period. That's my theory, anyway...
And we all know that experimenting is made all too easy (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_540.php) at S.A.I.A., mirite?
* Masculine men also don't wear high-heel shoes (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_602.php). :giggle
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 07, 2007, 09:24:51 AM
Vanity and fashion-consciousness would seem to be a basic trait of most 'Cubi.[snip]
And teenagers.
'Cubi just don't grow out of it. :P
:mowmeep I just keep on wondering, who started this thing about " Abel's femininity " ? If we go back to comic
# 428 ( Letters to the editor, with guest reader, Abel ) , He says ' don't let the androgeny fool you, I'm all man. He then tries to prove it to us but Fa'lina is too busy packaging him in a bin, that we don't see ...
Quote from: Kamunt on June 08, 2007, 12:42:39 AM
This place...weirds me the heck out. Why do I feel so natural hanging here, then...?
You know, I went through exactly the same thing...
Anyway. Going by what Amber was saying the other day, it's quite possible that reason Dan and Abel are kind of effeminate-looking is because she wasn't so good at drawing very muscular figures when they were designed :P
Quote from: Valynth on June 08, 2007, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on June 07, 2007, 09:24:51 AM
Vanity and fashion-consciousness would seem to be a basic trait of most 'Cubi.[snip]
And teenagers. 'Cubi just don't grow out of it. :P
Good point.
8) Vanity is always around, just some people deny it. Like for one example, you look a bit older when you are young, and younger when you are older . Female fashion is outside my domain, and of course, there are many other factors. Furrae fashion lives on .....
:< Amber probably was not good at drawing extra masculinity into Dan and Abel because they are theatrical figures in the plot . Each have their own character, and each individual. Merl went through many changes to get the character right. It's like how she can't draw a castle on a once - off ...
Femininity is a hard word to place . Remember Wildy ? And Dan had some personality traits that were a bit unusual. ( remember the high heeled shoes ? ) His other actions speak for themselves ... Every character has their quirks ...
Quote from: kaskar on June 08, 2007, 06:19:54 AM
It's like how she can't draw a castle on a once - off ...
I'm pretty sure the castle thing was a joke cuz her buildings from other angles and interiors are top notch.