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Response: ABOUT ****ING TIME!
10 years, about as bad as Duke Nukem Forever, but at least there's something even if it's just beta :3
Quote from: Gornemant on May 19, 2007, 04:22:07 AM
10 years, about as bad as Duke Nukem Forever, but at least there's something even if it's just beta :3
The difference here being that they havn't been saying "Oh, it's in development, just a little longer!" for all those ten years.
Blizzard's got three properties that are really valuable:
WarCraft
Diablo
and
StarCraft.
They've just about milked out Warcraft, and Diablo is pretty much done. It's about time they went back to StarCraft. :3
I's gots sudden urge to reinstall Starcraft & Broodwars and kick me some zergligs. >:3
Quote from: Reese Tora on May 19, 2007, 04:32:12 AM
I's gots sudden urge to reinstall Starcraft & Broodwars and kick me some zergligs. >:3
yes yes, you do that. Want a little multiplayer game? :3
Not right now, it's almost 2am, and I havn't played in years anyway.
(and I expect my computer to crash in the middle of any game I play... need to get a new motherboard)
Maybe I'll find time for you to crush me some time this weekend, though. ;)
Also see the main Blizzard site.
Subtitled; "Hell, it's about time." :B
http://www.blizzard.com/
http://www.starcraft2.com/
Quote from: Reese Tora on May 19, 2007, 04:50:25 AM
Not right now, it's almost 2am, and I havn't played in years anyway.
(and I expect my computer to crash in the middle of any game I play... need to get a new motherboard)
Maybe I'll find time for you to crush me some time this weekend, though. ;)
yah, I know, I prefer staying out in the sun today myself, just meant for later purpose.
And don't worry about the few years, I'll be gentle, ask Sheridan :3
Heh. and here I was expecting a WoW expansion.
just saw the movie, what's the Korean text mean?
Quote from: King Of Hearts on May 19, 2007, 05:52:32 AM
just saw the movie, what's the Korean text mean?
Active, so it seems. English version on starcraft 2 website, and better quality
I thought the guy was that guy from the first game... apparently its just some nameless marine. Nice designs... if not a bit complicated.
MUST... HAVE!
Just my two cents. I'm probably just going to keep playing Zerg, unless we see some completely new race that's even darker... which we probably won't. Still, I really like the new Terran look. Shows that the Blizz guys might have been playing some id soft stuff at home... >:3
NICE! Allow me to add my "took 'em long enough" to the pile. Looks like it was worth the wait though. Seems like they've added a new race; I don't recall "blue glowey things" being an option before.
No, I think that's just the Protoss getting glowy, presumably because Protoss stuff is supposed to be blue and glowy, but the old Starcraft engine couldn't handle glowy, so they may have only had the ability to make it glowy with the new engine. :words: :B
Quote from: Sheridan on May 19, 2007, 05:15:01 AM
Also see the main Blizzard site.
Subtitled; "Hell, it's about time." :B
http://www.blizzard.com/
http://www.starcraft2.com/
It would've been funnier if new arrivals had to check through each of the other games first. They all have their own little quotes on them.
Quote from: Reese Tora on May 19, 2007, 04:32:12 AM
Diablo is pretty much done.
They have yet to show us what happened after the incident in the D2 expansion...
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 19, 2007, 03:58:43 PM
They have yet to show us what happened after the incident in the D2 expansion...
Incident? I was under the impression that you actually manage to kill the third prime evil at the end of the expansion. Unfortunately, I don't have my advanced save games any more, due to HDD crash last year.
Quote from: Reese Tora on May 19, 2007, 04:32:12 AM
Quote from: Gornemant on May 19, 2007, 04:22:07 AM
10 years, about as bad as Duke Nukem Forever, but at least there's something even if it's just beta :3
The difference here being that they havn't been saying "Oh, it's in development, just a little longer!" for all those ten years.
Blizzard's got three properties that are really valuable:
WarCraft
Diablo
and
StarCraft.
They've just about milked out Warcraft, and Diablo is pretty much done. It's about time they went back to StarCraft. :3
I's gots sudden urge to reinstall Starcraft & Broodwars and kick me some zergligs. >:3
Just so long as those zerglings aren't me. I'm nearly finished with the zerg missions.
Quote from: Reese Tora on May 19, 2007, 04:15:05 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 19, 2007, 03:58:43 PM
They have yet to show us what happened after the incident in the D2 expansion...
Incident? I was under the impression that you actually manage to kill the third prime evil at the end of the expansion. Unfortunately, I don't have my advanced save games any more, due to HDD crash last year.
I'll try to do this to the best of my memory.
***SPOILER***
To sum things up, Tyrael arrives after you defeat Baal, and says the worldstone is corrupted (by Baal, obviously), and that he has to destroy it or something will happen. I forget what he said, but it probably had something to do with hell on earth. He also tells you that he doesn't know what will happen to the world after its destruction. So D2Exp ends with one of the coolest short FMVs of all time, and...***END SPOILER***
We STILL are left on a cliffhanger.
I'd be interested... if I hadn't stopped caring back in 2001 when this game was last announced and nothing happened... not to mention the now unheard of StarCraft Ghost project.
HURRAH! :boogie :eager :bunny :moogle
Let's hope it doesn't end up like SC:Ghost.
Certainly interesting news, but the smart money was on something starcraft related. It was also unlikely to be another MMORPG as that would directly compete with WoW, which is still printing money for Blizzard.
Now, anyone want to bet on how long until people start complaining about unit imbalance based on gameplay videos?
Its just been announced, it may just be that they have just finished developing more Protss stuff first.
Quote from: Taerkar on May 20, 2007, 04:40:15 AM
Certainly interesting news, but the smart money was on something starcraft related. It was also unlikely to be another MMORPG as that would directly compete with WoW, which is still printing money for Blizzard.
Now, anyone want to bet on how long until people start complaining about unit imbalance based on gameplay videos?
well, MMORPG wise, a starcraft MMO wouldn't have been direct competition to WoW. Since it's a different genre, it's likely that there would be plenty of double subscriptions from bliz fans to the two MMOs (assuming they made one). a double subscription from one person is more valuable than two individual subscriptions, because if a player is playing one, he isn't playing the other. The fewer subscribers that are on line, the more money blizzard makes.
In fact, there's a precedent for a company successfully running multiple MMOs. SoE has, what, seven full scale MMOs now? (EQ, EQ2, SWG, GaH:RR, Matrix, Planetside, Vanguard)
If they put the right developers on it, Starcraft On line would make a very valuable addition to Blizzard's repertoire.
Quote from: Manawolf on May 19, 2007, 02:54:30 AM
Response: ABOUT ****ING TIME!
:yeahthat
Geez though, it looks like you need a top of the line computer to handle it... that pretty much leves me out :mowsad
Quote from: Reese Tora on May 20, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
well, MMORPG wise, a starcraft MMO wouldn't have been direct competition to WoW. Since it's a different genre, it's likely that there would be plenty of double subscriptions from bliz fans to the two MMOs (assuming they made one). a double subscription from one person is more valuable than two individual subscriptions, because if a player is playing one, he isn't playing the other. The fewer subscribers that are on line, the more money blizzard makes.
In fact, there's a precedent for a company successfully running multiple MMOs. SoE has, what, seven full scale MMOs now? (EQ, EQ2, SWG, GaH:RR, Matrix, Planetside, Vanguard)
Full scale, perhaps, but I wouldn't exactly say successful.
And, well, while Starcraft MMORPG might be an MMOFPS like Planetside, there's not a good history for such things.
Well, I never claimed any of them were successful, only that SoE successfully fielded them :3 ... I'm quite familiar with the unsuccess that is SW:G, for one (I'm never going to unload my unused collector's ed copy of the game :cry )
Success could be considered to have broken even or made minor profits. :shifty
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on May 21, 2007, 01:11:31 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on May 19, 2007, 02:54:30 AM
Response: ABOUT ****ING TIME!
:yeahthat
Geez though, it looks like you need a top of the line computer to handle it... that pretty much leves me out :mowsad
Every high-budget game ever made needed a top-of-the-line pc, except for the odd MMORGP here and there.
What kind of system do you have anyway? Maybe you can upgrade by the time the game comes out. It's only just been anounced, so you should have quite some time to save up for a proper machine. Also, the longer you wait, the more performance you can buy for your money.
Quote from: Vidar on May 21, 2007, 03:18:19 PM
What kind of system do you have anyway? Maybe you can upgrade by the time the game comes out. It's only just been anounced, so you should have quite some time to save up for a proper machine. Also, the longer you wait, the more performance you can buy for your money.
Lets see here... It's a Dell, 71.4 GB of harddrive space and the "System Properties" says:
Micrsoft windows XP Home edition 2002
Intel Celeron CPU 3.06GHz 504 MB of RAM
Can't find anything about the sound/vid cards though... but I know it lags a bit on CnC Generals if I have all the effects on.
...I hate it when I haven't a clue what I'm talking about...
I have no worries when it comes to system requirements...
...however I do so hope that SC2 will include a flexible and clever resource system รก la C&C3, or the gameplay might suffer. I'm not saying that they should take away minerals or vespene, however when you have to think more of combat and tactics, rather than go to extreme lengths of strategy as we saw in the original StarCraft, the gameplay tends to become much more intense and exciting. True, it made for much of the fun for some to develop patterns and strategies in the original, and with a 2D game you really can't fight tactically in a true way, but with these graphics and the computing power and experience at our hands nowadays...
It's just that I've always liked games that take strategy to the next level, like Ground Control and Dawn of War. And as a prolific player of both, I think that I know what I'm saying when I say that Blizzard could very well steal a part of the players that go for those types of games if they incorporated some of these new ideas. Adding that to the already well-worked concept of StarCraft, with the different races and their distinguishing traits, the excellent strategic elements and the perfect balance in between them, that would truly be a step into the next generation for Blizzard when it comes to their RTS games.
Well, it took what, eleven years, but hey. Starcraft 2.
It's like...finding out Santa is real.
And is giving you a hydralisk. >:3
I'm going to be spending a lot of time over at my friends houses when this game comes out.
"Need a light?"
Seems like the service smells of the battlefield with many of random Zerg like moments X3
OOHH!!I cant wait for it to come out.
SC 1 was awesome despite how old it is,then they popped out brood war...now FINALLY they're coming out with a sequal almost a decade later...they had better not have replaced my precious BC's....I love them :P
Take this from someone who is actually a part of the official Starcraft.Org community, we are FREAKING OUT over this! After ten long years, Blizzard has finally retured to save us from the depths of hell!
i'm pretty sure being without a starcraft sequel is NOT that bad.
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on May 21, 2007, 07:56:29 PM
Quote from: Vidar on May 21, 2007, 03:18:19 PM
What kind of system do you have anyway? Maybe you can upgrade by the time the game comes out. It's only just been anounced, so you should have quite some time to save up for a proper machine. Also, the longer you wait, the more performance you can buy for your money.
Lets see here... It's a Dell, 71.4 GB of harddrive space and the "System Properties" says:
Micrsoft windows XP Home edition 2002
Intel Celeron CPU 3.06GHz 504 MB of RAM
Can't find anything about the sound/vid cards though... but I know it lags a bit on CnC Generals if I have all the effects on.
...I hate it when I haven't a clue what I'm talking about...
Your video-card is something on-board, and eats 8MB of ram from the main memory, is slow, and most likely made by Intel for the sole purpose of being cheap to produce and displaying your desktop.
Upgrade the RAM to about 2GB and upgrade the video-card to something descent (modern mid-budget geforce or radeon should yield a significant increase in game performance), and you should be able to run most modern games with reasonable results. (eg. No more lag in CnC Generals).
I have no idea what Starcraft 2 will run on, so I can't guarantee that it will run on your computer.
You might want to start saving now, and upgrade when SC2 is out in the shops.
Sound card isn't really important, as long as it makes noise (unless you are an audiophile).
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Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 22, 2007, 11:08:41 AM
i'm pretty sure being without a starcraft sequel is NOT that bad.
The you have NOT seen a real SC fan before. We have always despised Blizz for pilling all their attention on pretty-boys Warcraft and Diablo... We hate our rich, pampered brothers with a vengance, for we have been cast out on the street and in the cold, watching them get all the love, and it has been that way for ten long years. BUT WE ARE REJOICING! OUR HOURS OF SUFFERING ARE NEAR AN END! OUR SALVATION IS NIGH! We will finally march out of the darkenss and back into the world with our heads held high!
Counting your chickens before they hatch, much?
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on May 22, 2007, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 22, 2007, 11:08:41 AM
i'm pretty sure being without a starcraft sequel is NOT that bad.
The you have NOT seen a real SC fan before. We have always despised Blizz for pilling all their attention on pretty-boys Warcraft and Diablo... We hate our rich, pampered brothers with a vengance, for we have been cast out on the street and in the cold, watching them get all the love, and it has been that way for ten long years. BUT WE ARE REJOICING! OUR HOURS OF SUFFERING ARE NEAR AN END! OUR SALVATION IS NIGH! We will finally march out of the darkenss and back into the world with our heads held high!
GLORY TO THE SC!!!!May its rule reach into the unknown!!!!MY LIFE FOR AIUR!!
Quote from: Metal Juggernaut on May 22, 2007, 06:46:12 PM
GLORY TO THE SC!!!!May its rule reach into the unknown!!!!MY LIFE FOR AIUR!!
Ah! A true fellow StarCraft Brother! Greetings, friend! But you are outside of the comfort and protection of the StarCraft.Org community! Go there, and you will find your kin!
(unless you already have an account there, I wouldn't know, but if that is the case, then what a coincidence! Greetings and salutations, Bother Crafter!)
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on May 22, 2007, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 22, 2007, 11:08:41 AM
i'm pretty sure being without a starcraft sequel is NOT that bad.
The you have NOT seen a real SC fan before. We have always despised Blizz for pilling all their attention on pretty-boys Warcraft and Diablo... We hate our rich, pampered brothers with a vengance, for we have been cast out on the street and in the cold, watching them get all the love, and it has been that way for ten long years. BUT WE ARE REJOICING! OUR HOURS OF SUFFERING ARE NEAR AN END! OUR SALVATION IS NIGH! We will finally march out of the darkenss and back into the world with our heads held high!
Diablo? Getting attention? Get your facts straight or don't say anything. Complaining about things that aren't happening is dumb. Really.
Its great and all that they are finally returning to Starcraft, but really this is probably just going to lead up to another expansion then another MMOrpg, like how Warcraft III led to the TFT then to WoW. They practically got South Korea in their back pocket with this one and in the interests of lining their pockets I doubt they are gonna let it slip by.
I'll buy the game, and let gameplay and story decide whether this is the work of the Blizzard I remember, and not the work of the guys on WoW. :shifty
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 22, 2007, 11:39:12 PM
Diablo? Getting attention? Get your facts straight or don't say anything. Complaining about things that aren't happening is dumb. Really.
Diablo has gotten more attention than StarCraft. If you don't belive me, check what Blizz has made for each beyond the originals. If you are lazy, let me recap:
WarCraft: 2 full sequels, numerous expansion packs, and a freaking MMORPG.
Diablo: One complete sequel, at least one expansion pack for both the original and number 2.
StarCraft: One single stinking expansion.
Get YOUR facts straight Soulfire. Diablo has more than SC, even if it is nowhere near what Warcraft has. That is what I meant.
...gods dammit, I went belligerent again. My apologies ahead of time. Lemme rephrase; It actually really isn't Diablo at all, I just felt it was worthy of mention. I did not put any special emphasis on it, but maybe I sould have for WarCraft to avoid confusion...again... as you seem to do with so many of my posts. That is why the last time this happendd, I started spelling out everything I said. Which complelty ruined the humor for anything funny I was trying to say. I don't want to have to go back to that, it isn't fun at all.
Yyyeah. Well, Diablo has one measly sequel, for a game that has little replay value beyond playing another character and attacking more things in much the same way as ever. I'm not even sure if D2 has many, if at all, books with stories based on the world. I'm pretty sure starcraft has tons of those. Warcraft would be the ONLY series out of blizzard to really make a mess of things in terms of equality. Let's go over that right now, and see what Bliz has been doing all these years...
Warcraft
Warcraft II
Warcraft II expansion
Warcraft II Battle.net Edition
Warcraft III
Warcraft III expansion
World of Warcraft
And of course, all Warcraft books. Seems like they've spent a whole lot of time on their first successful series. Well... maybe second. They don't even whisper of The Lost Vikings anymore, and it seems as if they never wanted a sequel to Blackthorne. Even I can't remember all the classics.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 23, 2007, 01:48:53 AM
Yyyeah. Well, Diablo has one measly sequel, for a game that has little replay value beyond playing another character and attacking more things in much the same way as ever. I'm not even sure if D2 has many, if at all, books with stories based on the world. I'm pretty sure starcraft has tons of those. Warcraft would be the ONLY series out of blizzard to really make a mess of things in terms of equality. Let's go over that right now, and see what Bliz has been doing all these years...
Warcraft
Warcraft II
Warcraft II expansion
Warcraft II Battle.net Edition
Warcraft III
Warcraft III expansion
World of Warcraft
And of course, all Warcraft books. Seems like they've spent a whole lot of time on their first successful series. Well... maybe second. They don't even whisper of The Lost Vikings anymore, and it seems as if they never wanted a sequel to Blackthorne. Even I can't remember all the classics.
6_6
Diablo
Diablo: Hellfire (produced by a third party, admitedly)
Diablo II
Diablo II: LoD
WoW (which cribbed many of it's classes and abilities from Diablo and/or Diablo II)
There was also a line of Diablo books
Still not on par with Warcraft, but a bit more impressive than you made it out to be.
Both Warcraft and Diablo also had 3rd ed. D&D books/settings from them, though the Warcraft one did better, IMO.
(The Diablo one was to recreate the game in D&D, the Warcraft one was an entire setting based around WoW, but using more material from the RTSs)
I have a feeling that the fans are hyping themselves up, though, and are going to have thier expectations too high when SCII comes out. Starcraft was, at root, a sci-fi version of Warcraft, and very similar to WCII in terms of play. I hope that I'm wrong, but I think that SCII may end up being very similar to WCIII.
*is borne off to be burned at the stake by rabid SC fans for first reminding them of the other games' success and then expressing doubts about the awesomeness that will be SCII*
Atleast I didn't mention Starcraft:Ghost... awwww C***
The Diablo expansion was ONE extra act and not a whole lot else. WoW may have stolen elements from Diablo but isn't a diablo title, nor can you even compare it. There were diablo books, but I'm taking a good guess that there were plenty more for either warcraft or starcraft, take your pick.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on May 23, 2007, 04:03:18 AM
The Diablo expansion was ONE extra act and not a whole lot else. WoW may have stolen elements from Diablo but isn't a diablo title, nor can you even compare it. There were diablo books, but I'm taking a good guess that there were plenty more for either warcraft or starcraft, take your pick.
I'll not dispute that with you, it was only one act, but the scope of that one act, plus the additions to gameplay aside from it, are more than on par with the average content of an RTS expansion.
My point was, though, that the amount of work put into the Diablo franchise, and work derived from it, is not so insignificant as you made it out to be.