I think Able's "Short version' of cubi history (( From page 508 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php) ))would make a great bonus arc. :mowwink I am sure this has probably been an idea others have had too, but I just wanted to say it again... hehehe
I think this is an excellent idea.
I also think that Amber is planning on revealing this history slowly throughout the strip, so asking her to do it as a mini-arc would probably mess with the pacing for the strip.
Do what most fans of the comic do..Wait awhile and maybe she will peel off more layers of the comic and then you will know
And here I thought most of the fans speculated wildly (and Wildy) in the forum, until Amber got sick of it and posted something to smack them all down...
.. shows what I know. :-]
Creature types and characteristics can await another day . Now something about " the disasters of Neni " , is a one off ...
or an even shorter version that comes on a single stickynote.. >:3
Azlan talks about Neni's various Adventures and Disasters all the time , why can't we just have a short of them at Lost Lake, or would we get continual disasters going on, until Lost Lake is turned to matchwood under the force of the Neni ?
I dought that crazy guy himself is self forward to speak
Quote from: kaskar on April 07, 2007, 07:40:53 AM
Azlan talks about Neni's various Adventures and Disasters all the time , why can't we just have a short of them at Lost Lake, or would we get continual disasters going on, until Lost Lake is turned to matchwood under the force of the Neni ?
But Neni has never been to Lost Lake. :<
As for Cubi History, I had considered giving a brief rundown via a story revolving around Fa'Lina. However it is probably as long as Abel's Story and triple the dark...so I don't really have any desires or plans at this time or near future.
Truthfully I am doubtful I will ever do another mega-bonus arc like Abel's Story again after I finish his.
Never say never Amber...May you rember a famous mouse singing that once :P
Then again you are like an onion when comes to keeping things up...Many layers of chaos in every peeling :B
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 07, 2007, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: kaskar on April 07, 2007, 07:40:53 AM
Azlan talks about Neni's various Adventures and Disasters all the time , why can't we just have a short of them at Lost Lake, or would we get continual disasters going on, until Lost Lake is turned to matchwood under the force of the Neni ?
But Neni has never been to Lost Lake. :<
As for Cubi History, I had considered giving a brief rundown via a story revolving around Fa'Lina. However it is probably as long as Abel's Story and triple the dark...so I don't really have any desires or plans at this time or near future.
Truthfully I am doubtful I will ever do another mega-bonus arc like Abel's Story again after I finish his.
But... but... dark... and... other... sweet... plot... wonderful... suffering... my... :c
... :C
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 07, 2007, 02:36:02 PM
As for Cubi History, I had considered giving a brief rundown via a story revolving around Fa'Lina. However it is probably as long as Abel's Story and triple the dark...so I don't really have any desires or plans at this time or near future.
Ouch. Even as someone who likes DMFA for the drama as much as the humour, I think that's probably a wise decision. There's dark and then there's horrible.
Nonetheless, I have to admit, that 'history' panel is one of my favourite strips.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 07, 2007, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 07, 2007, 02:36:02 PM
As for Cubi History, I had considered giving a brief rundown via a story revolving around Fa'Lina. However it is probably as long as Abel's Story and triple the dark...so I don't really have any desires or plans at this time or near future.
Ouch. Even as someone who likes DMFA for the drama as much as the humour, I think that's probably a wise decision. There's dark and then there's horrible.
Nonetheless, I have to admit, that 'history' panel is one of my favourite strips.
*Charles suspects Charline might be featured in such a history of darkness...*
*Charline grrs!* Why?! What have I ever done to merit... oh right... all the murders and carnivorousness. >:3 I should very much like to know of this dark chapter of Furrae.
Amber is right in saying that Neni has never been to Lost Lake . However, it would be nice to see her visit Aslan there .
heh, if Neni is as good at random accidental destruction as Azlan makes her out to be, I doubt even Alexi would be able to prevent Lost Lake from being obliterated like Mab's glen... and you also have to remember that Neni is a fae, just like Mab and Azlan.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 08, 2007, 02:12:04 AM
heh, if Neni is as good at random accidental destruction as Azlan makes her out to be, I doubt even Alexi would be able to prevent Lost Lake from being obliterated like Mab's glen... and you also have to remember that Neni is a fae, just like Mab and Azlan.
Is Neni fae ? In the wedding picture , it was Azlan with the antenni and butterfly wings . Neni seems to have no antenni , and feathered wings . Is she of the Angel race ?
Ummm Kaskar....No
Quote from: Zedd on April 08, 2007, 03:13:49 AM
Ummm Kaskar....No
Was that an Angel Fox for Neni, and Fae Fox for Azlan. or a NOT angel fox . Don't see why not . Both are long lived role playing races, and the creature - being phobia wouldn't be there ... Also , I see feathered wings and no Antenni on Neni in the wedding photo . Wedding photos should be for remembering , and Azlan had to get a patch for similar wings ... Could've been done easier by fae magic
Why does it have to be an angel? Do angels not have a really bad reputation?
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 08, 2007, 04:36:13 AM
Why does it have to be an angel? Do angels not have a really bad reputation?
I was just trying to correlate the wing type and the race . I presumed that these were Neni's natural wings, and apart from being formal, should be true to life . She has the description : Feathered wing Fox called Neni
Neni and Azlan are both characters who have original owners. While some liberties I take, I try to keep the base core of the character design matched to the owners vision. So be very careful in making assumptions.
In other words: There are lots of things one can speculate. Don't do it in regards to Neni.
I speculate that Neni will do nasty things to Amber if Amber makes any changes to the character.
... and that Amber will do even nastier things to me for speculating :-]
Quote from: Zedd on April 07, 2007, 01:46:13 AM
Do what most fans of the comic do..Wait awhile and maybe she will peel off more layers of the comic and then you will know
Peel off layers? Are you saying DMFA is like an ogre now?
Quote from: Illusionist on April 08, 2007, 08:45:04 AM
Peel off layers? Are you saying DMFA is like an ogre now?
No, no. Of course not.
DMFA is like an onion.
Amber is like an ogre.
*grin* *duck* *run*, very very fast.
I drew the conclusion that Neni was a Fae from this (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_427.php), and I do remeber Amber once saying that you should be very careful if you are going to even try to use wallpapers/art for refernce in the DMFA canon, which is why I don't really consider them to be a legitimate source.
Anyways, Azlan says: "As a Fae,
we have a more deep and meaningful way..." thus implying that Neni is a Fae, just like Azlan. And Neni being a Fae who never learned to control her own magic easily explains all the mayhem she has unwittingly caused.
And if you really want to go on the wallpaper, in the wedding photo, she probably has feathered wings because that must have been what here original character design was.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 08, 2007, 05:45:41 AM
Neni and Azlan are both characters who have original owners. While some liberties I take, I try to keep the base core of the character design matched to the owners vision.
Amber probably had to draw Neni with birdwings, not butterflywings, for that reason. Yet another reason why you shouldn't often reference the wallpapers, unless you are absolutely sure it fits absolutly seamlessly.
To have fun... To earn this custom Title... For the Hell of it, I give you the Unfounded Speculation of Neni.
Azlan and her met once during Adventurer's and Diviner's mixer party. At the time they met, (which was about 200 hundred years previous to the current story line) Azlan had to resort to using his fey powers for the illusion magic which hid his true nature, as one Kangaroo Rat had not been born yet. To say it was love at sight would probably would have been an outright lie, however, at least that was the last time Neni went to a mixer.
Now after that event, Neni and Azlan kept in touch via letters. As there relationship grew, Azlan worried more and more about how this lovely new woman would respond to his near immortality. Eventually, he decided to break the news to her on his wedding day as he walked down the isle. He vowed that he would die the day she would, and that for the rest of her life, she would have the normal life that she deserved.
It wasn't until they arrived at the suit that she decided to surprise him with the, untill then, unknown truth that she two was a fae that had been using illusion magic to hide her true nature. As opposed to Azlan (who used his power to avoid the embarrassing effects of adventuring with fairy wings) Neni loved the concept of magic that the beings had seemed to master and wished to study it without giving away her natural inborn talent for magic.
Eventually they settled into a pattern of working. Both Neni and Azlan's work required them to be away for long extended periods of time, so they set up a house on a "higher plane" which is bound to two items. (Which would be their wedding rings btw). Thus when they both have time off, they can spend time with each other, no matter where they may be. (But they have both agreed that in the real world they should remain separate, for political reasons that need not be addressed at this time.
So, as of now, Neni is half a continent away working with other beings on the creation and improvement of existing magics, all the while the other mages none the wiser to her true abilities. (Yes they can sense the illusion magic, but they don't ask for politeness sake (Almost like asking about a woman's breast implants. (Yay! Triple Parentheses(edit: Maybe you should concentrate on the content, and not the quadruple (or quintuple (or even sextuple (woo, sex! (sorry)))) layers of parenthesis. Just my 2p. :-])))). Azlan of course is currently spending time at Lost lake.
They plan sometime in the future to have a child, but neither wishes to give up their professional careers to do so.... maybe in a 100 years or so.
(Edit: Sorry, I couldn't resist the chance to play in the parenthesis.... :-] -- llearch )
*whistles innocently*
Sorry, Chaos. It was too tempting. :-]
And thus the cards become to tumble, and with the warnings, collapse upon the might of the Neni talk
Quote from: kaskar on April 09, 2007, 07:58:12 AM
And thus the cards become to tumble, and with the warnings, collapse upon the might of the Neni talk
...human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!
In the beginning there was nothing...
And then there was Charline! :mwaha
Thus we have the history of cubi! The End! :boogie
*appears for a second and whacks zedd with her particle thrower(
no quoting gb when i am not around :D sorry
*vanishs again*
Silverfoxr is Particle Woman?
(Note: for those who failed to STR, youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqdGRFkHgaI) for particle man. :-] )
Cubi are from the Philippines that's why they look all Anime. :mowdizzy
Well I dont roll my R's when I speak though :P
QuoteAzlan talks about Neni's various Adventures and Disasters all the time , why can't we just have a short of them at Lost Lake, or would we get continual disasters going on, until Lost Lake is turned to matchwood under the force of the Neni ?
Well, its also a running joke – the point is we've never seen Neni "on screen", and that adds to the humor value of these stories as the Neni of our imaginations is probably greater than what would actually appear. This is actually a well-known device; if you never show someone but people react to them, then you can build your own image of them. Usually you won't reveal them without good reason.
QuoteTruthfully I am doubtful I will ever do another mega-bonus arc like Abel's Story again after I finish his.
Given how much of a project it became, I can't say I'd blame you; I'm sure it has eaten up a lot more time that you expected it was going to. (not to mention... I noticed that way back at the beginning of Abel's story, it says "Part 1", and we haven't seen a "Part 2" yet. Is that intentional? If so, I feel REALLY sorry for you... well, as sorry as I can feel for someone who writes a webcomic with enough success to make a few thousand dollars a year doing it :P). Then again, perhaps if you did want to do another such thing, instead of it all being financed by the donors up front, perhaps its continued existence could take the place of mini arcs? I dunno which you would have more fun doing, just an idea.
I also have to wonder if the other option would have been nearly as long :)
oh damn everyone knows the best TV dramas are told in four parts...I feel sorry for you
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on April 09, 2007, 02:42:23 PM
Well, its also a running joke – the point is we've never seen Neni "on screen", and that adds to the humor value of these stories as the Neni of our imaginations is probably greater than what would actually appear. This is actually a well-known device; if you never show someone but people react to them, then you can build your own image of them. Usually you won't reveal them without good reason.
Cookie for you. :-]
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on April 09, 2007, 02:42:23 PM
I also have to wonder if the other option would have been nearly as long :)
Well.. it does have the option of going on hiatus until someone coughs up for the next segment. Along with a "no foul" policy, since it's clear up front that the money equals updates, so if less than x amount shows up, it just rolls over until next month...
Of course, there's also the point that, given the way Ambers' fans leap up and donate at the drop of a hat, it might just end up her owing -lots- more updates. Personally, I'd be happy with "here's the donate button, here's how much it costs to get a [week/month]s updates, and here's the current running total" and slicing off the total when the month is up.
Of course, the best way to do that would involve creating a set of numbers, and a board, and loading the correct numbers in. That's more difficult to set up, but easier to maintain... Even better if, once the numbers are drawn, is to get someone to code it so you just put a number into the php and the code does all the rest for you. That, of course, is a lot more setup... :-]
*cough* Anyway. I'm happy with whatever Amber decides - even if she decides to not follow on from Abels' Story. (and if she wants help with that code I mentioned, I'm happy to oblige, as well :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 09, 2007, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on April 09, 2007, 02:42:23 PM
Well, its also a running joke – the point is we've never seen Neni "on screen", and that adds to the humor value of these stories as the Neni of our imaginations is probably greater than what would actually appear. This is actually a well-known device; if you never show someone but people react to them, then you can build your own image of them. Usually you won't reveal them without good reason.
Cookie for you. :-]
It's much like Norm's wife, Vera, on "Cheers". :]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 09, 2007, 12:53:59 PMSilverfoxr is Particle Woman?
(Note: for those who failed to STR, youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqdGRFkHgaI) for particle man. :-] )
I think that would make Silverfoxr Peter Graves' wife. (how's *that* for STR?)
Quote from: Alondro on April 09, 2007, 03:58:04 PMIt's much like Norm's wife, Vera, on "Cheers". :]
Didn't we meet Vera? Or did we just see the Peterson house? We never met Maris, though.
but i am still single o-o
Quote from: Silverfoxr on April 10, 2007, 01:55:57 AMbut i am still single o-o
I believe we have just proven that you aren't Particle Woman, then.
(OK. I'm done with references in this thread.)
Haha when I said Bonuc Arc.. I kinda meant bonus Mini-arch.. not something as long as able's story.. but perhaps a little longer then the Cubi ability page.
Quote from: Aurawyn on April 11, 2007, 10:59:00 PMHaha when I said Bonuc Arc.. I kinda meant bonus Mini-arch.. not something as long as able's story.. but perhaps a little longer then the Cubi ability page.
Er, we're talking about 9000+ years of `cubi history--or at least the first 2000 or so years of that. I'd like to see Amber try to fit all of that in eight or so pages.
(no, really. Can I encourage you try?)
Quote from: superluser on April 12, 2007, 12:27:01 AM
Er, we're talking about 9000+ years of `cubi history--or at least the first 2000 or so years of that. I'd like to see Amber try to fit all of that in eight or so pages.
Why not? The short version (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php) only took one.
:mowtongue
Quote from: Tezkat on April 12, 2007, 12:34:48 AMWhy not? The short version (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php) only took one.
That's because we slept through it.
Did you know that--in addition to the extended version and the theatrical version--Peter Jackson was asked to make a two-hour version of each of the Lord of the Rings films? That's what I think we'd be looking at.
We could always hire those bunnies (http://www.angryalien.com/) to help. :mowcookie
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna
Of course, the best way to do that would involve creating a set of numbers, and a board, and loading the correct numbers in. That's more difficult to set up, but easier to maintain... Even better if, once the numbers are drawn, is to get someone to code it so you just put a number into the php and the code does all the rest for you. That, of course, is a lot more setup... :-]
Ooh! Scripting!
If amber decides to do something like this, just pm me! I love scripting in php, and I mean, I am sure I could do this. We could put the output in an image, a small frame, or even embed it into the main page as plain text, though embedding it would be hardest.
I could either have it make some sort of graph, or have it change part of an image(like a background) based on how much money(i.e. background 1 for $0-99, bg2 for $100-199, etc.).
If it can be done, Im sure I can do it, and if it cant, I might be able to anyway :P
If you have any questions for me, just ask! :)
-RobbieThe1st
Erm. Robbie?
You've got your quotes chewed. That was -my- comment, not TitaniumDragons'.
Do be careful about that. Some people get grumpy if they're not attributed correctly...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 12, 2007, 03:47:10 AM
Erm. Robbie?
You've got your quotes chewed. That was -my- comment, not TitaniumDragons'.
Do be careful about that. Some people get grumpy if they're not attributed correctly...
Fixed... Lol.
-RobbieThe1st
What I am interested in are the people, places, and events that all Cubi would know about. For example, if you say Elvis or Harvard or D-Day, everyone knows what you are talking about. What are the things that all Cubi would know what you are talking about with just one or two words? I think that "Fa'Lina" and "SAIA" would be two things that fall in that category.
Does "nifflewhiffle" qualify as an event or an object?
Well couldn't Amber do a text based version of cubi history without all the comics that would be a lot shorter and faster.
Are we talking two or three pages of a college level paper because with editing and whatnot it might take Amber as long if not longer than a comic page.
Well she said it would take about as long as Abel's story which is 80 comics long and counting. might take longer than a single page but I would think it would be a lot faster than 100 pages of comic
What I would like to see one day is a correlation between between various buzz-words and their full fledged counterparts . Like S.A.I.A is the initials for the Cubi Acadamy, Difference between creature and being, and what was wiffle-sniffle from Jy-Jy ?
1: There is no way I could properly cram the Cubi history into a 4-5 page mini arc.
2: I don't intend to make a text-based version. Its a concept that I really dislike in general. Not to mention it would be so rife with spoilers it would effectively kill off a good chunk of future storylines. Which I can't imagine anyone would like.
3: Nifflewiffle is a sound my cat once made when it sneezed. It made me laugh and I would occasionally use it as the sound one makes when they have a complete brain-shutdown.
4: I use the term SAIA because its just easier to type than constantly typing Succubi and Incubi Academy. Sort of like how many colleges call themselves their initials rather than the full term.
5: As I said before, there is no plans to do the full Cubi history anytime soon. If not because its really long, but because its really dark.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 13, 2007, 02:43:22 AM
1: There is no way I could properly cram the Cubi history into a 4-5 page mini arc.
2: I don't intend to make a text-based version. Its a concept that I really dislike in general. Not to mention it would be so rife with spoilers it would effectively kill off a good chunk of future storylines. Which I can't imagine anyone would like.
5: As I said before, there is no plans to do the full Cubi history anytime soon. If not because its really long, but because its really dark.
well, when everything's said and done, looks like you have the perfect material right there for a graphic novel.
which can wait until you've topped everything off. :3
Quote from: Turnsky on April 13, 2007, 07:47:48 AM
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 13, 2007, 02:43:22 AM
1: There is no way I could properly cram the Cubi history into a 4-5 page mini arc.
2: I don't intend to make a text-based version. Its a concept that I really dislike in general. Not to mention it would be so rife with spoilers it would effectively kill off a good chunk of future storylines. Which I can't imagine anyone would like.
5: As I said before, there is no plans to do the full Cubi history anytime soon. If not because its really long, but because its really dark.
well, when everything's said and done, looks like you have the perfect material right there for a graphic novel.
which can wait until you've topped everything off. :3
I would like to see that in a graphic novel version Amber if I was you then do the Cubi histroy in a different way that it has no relation to any future plotlines and your characters if you see from a different P.O.V. then you have astory is fresh and evry different but this is my mind rambling here. In this case do what you always do in this great strip of DMFA and we all eat it right up.
Quote from: Amber Williams on April 13, 2007, 02:43:22 AM
1: There is no way I could properly cram the Cubi history into a 4-5 page mini arc.
2: I don't intend to make a text-based version. Its a concept that I really dislike in general. Not to mention it would be so rife with spoilers it would effectively kill off a good chunk of future storylines. Which I can't imagine anyone would like.
3: Nifflewiffle is a sound my cat once made when it sneezed. It made me laugh and I would occasionally use it as the sound one makes when they have a complete brain-shutdown.
4: I use the term SAIA because its just easier to type than constantly typing Succubi and Incubi Academy. Sort of like how many colleges call themselves their initials rather than the full term.
5: As I said before, there is no plans to do the full Cubi history anytime soon. If not because its really long, but because its really dark.
So Amber, when you finish doing DMFA someday (assuming you still plan on moving onto Mikelo's universe), are you going to reveal a lot more to people about it, or just let every backstory to everything you've thought up of die?
Man, no more mega-backstories =( Ah well, maybe she'll incorporate lots of flashbacks in the current arcs. One can always hope =P