http://www.ccawards.com/2007.htm
QuoteOUTSTANDING ANTHROPOMORPHIC COMIC:
Angry D. Monkey by Keon Brown
Dan & Mab's Furry Adventures by Amber M. Williams
Digger by Ursula Vernon
Lackadaisy by Tracey J. Butler
VG Cats by Scott Ramsoomair
surprised noone spotted this earlier.
Any webcomickers here that have already registered? If not, still, the best of luck to Amber!
Props to Amber, but dollars to donuts that VGCats or Digger wins.
Nah, IF anyone buy DMFA wins, my money would be on Lackadaisy over those two.
I'm still betting on, and voting for, DMFA.
And actually, I think Angry D. Monkey is better than Lackadaisy... In my opinion, as far as keeping me entertained (I got bored reading Lackadaisy's archive, albiet pretty).
but that's me I guess.
Only DMFA or VG Cats, but then again VG Cats is only Anthro as far as the two main characters. The others are either pay to read or I never heard of them. Down with them in any case.
I'm betting on Digger, since it was also nominated for an Eisner Award.
Bah, the stuff I saw only led me to believe Digger does nothing more than wax philosophy. Sorry, but you need something resembling a punchline somewhere withing 10 strips, be you comic or graphic novel.
My money's on Lackadaisy, personally.
Having read most of those (not Angry D Monkey, and only the free portion of Digger)
Lackadaisy has stunning art, but I doubt that, with that level of quality, it has the rate of update to hold as large a fan base.
Digger seemed well done, but it's largely inaccessable without paying for access.
VGcats is funny, but it's hardly teh best Anthro comic out there, much as I like it.
I would say that Digger, DMFA, and Lackadaisy should be the front runners, and I would put my money on Lackadaisy to win, except I don't think it's well enough known to actually win.
From that, my persoanl preference would be for DMFA to win because Amber has regularly delivered stunning art and great humor for the last many many years(many three, if you don't count the hiatus... that FAQ needs minor date related updating, says 5-6 years).
that be cool if DMFA won :)
Quote from: Reese Tora on January 31, 2007, 04:10:05 AM
From that, my persoanl preference would be for DMFA to win because Amber has regularly delivered stunning art and great humor for the last many many years(many three, if you don't count the hiatus... that FAQ needs minor date related updating, says 5-6 years).
when amber came off from her hiatus, DMFA's been more or less consistant in its update schedule.
I feel that all the comics nominated for best anthropomorphic, deserve that nomination, especially DMFA, i believe it's something that Amber's earnt for her hard work to bringing us quality webcomicky goodness. :3 (even though Amber herself wouldn't potentially see the "quality" part :P )
AH! Found it!
(http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol563.jpg)
amber needn't fear praise, really, as long as she gets enjoyment from her comic, that's all that truly matters.
between you and me, though, on a professional level i envy how she can get the lineart so clean.
I want Amber to win this strip is the best I seen so far and she deserve the accolades and praise. I 'm here for the duration of this strip forever and that is never going to change.
Quote from: Turnsky on January 31, 2007, 06:08:36 AM
amber needn't fear praise, really, as long as she gets enjoyment from her comic, that's all that truly matters.
between you and me, though, on a professional level i envy how she can get the lineart so clean.
Yea, especially after I found out she DOESN'T use a tablet, I'm amazed by her coloring skill!
She is very cool when she dosen't realize it. But in any case we the fanboys and girls are here to support her and give her just due.
Sitting in a room and watching her color is absolutely fascinating. I've tried to incorporate some of her techniques (with eh results), but it's a neat process to watch. Kinda like those hackers in "leet hackzors" movies, where their fingers are flying over the keyboard.
Horray for Amber! It's hard for me to say for sure who will win that category. Each is quite different and strong in different areas of style, story, and comedy.
DMFA has grown enormously. The characters are growing ever more complex and the story is evolving many little twists and turns to the point where you wonder who's actually manipulating who and for what reason. Yet the comedy remains, even with the increased drama. Add in the wonderful artwork and it's no wonder DMFA is a contender this year.
Heh, I actually have the first volume of "Digger" and have been a regular reader. There is humor, but it's subtle and often mixed in with the pseudo-philosophy. Ursula's done some sketches for me as well. I like that coy cleverness. And a wombat as the main character is certainly original! There is quite a bit of mixing of various theologies and the conceptualization of gods is quite interesting. As Homer Simpson would say, "Hey Ganesha, wanna peanut?" :3
VG Cats, often crude, frequently clever, has occaisionally made me get a nosebleed from laughter. But I don't know if it has enough consistency. And it relies very heavily on gaming aspects that the average person simply won't understand. There are some of the comics where I say to myself, "Ok, something is funny here, but I don't know what or why." A truly great comic punchline is one that can transcend simple farce and reach a wider audience who may not even know the subject matter.
As for the other two, I've never heard of them! I'll have to take a peek.
Vote for DMFA or else I will visit you at night and it is not for coffee :gun1 =3
I hope she wins becouse she is on top of my fav list of webcomics
Quote from: Fex on February 01, 2007, 07:08:16 AM
Vote for DMFA or else I will visit you at night and it is not for coffee :gun1 =3
I hope she wins becouse she is on top of my fav list of webcomics
Yeah same here I bring over my 50 Cal. machine gun and my double edged katanas so vote for DMFA or else :gun2.
webcomic artists are only allowed to vote, or so i think.. >:3
Quote from: Turnsky on February 01, 2007, 07:29:55 AM
webcomic artists are only allowed to vote, or so i think.. >:3
Is that "Only webcomic artists can vote", or "Webcomic artists can vote but not do anything else"?
**EDIT**
Scratch that, it's called "Cartoonists' Choice" so I guess it's the former...
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 01, 2007, 07:34:32 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 01, 2007, 07:29:55 AM
webcomic artists are only allowed to vote, or so i think.. >:3
Is that "Only webcomic artists can vote", or "Webcomic artists can vote but not do anything else"?
**EDIT**
Scratch that, it's called "Cartoonists' Choice" so I guess it's the former...
yeah, the former.
i only got 5 hours of sleep last night, my grammar's a tad off.
Git yer granpa ta help her?
... I'll get my coat.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 01, 2007, 08:21:31 AM
Git yer granpa ta help her?
... I'll get my coat.
there's an irony in this.. i do take care of my ailing grandmother full time.. :U
Quote from: Turnsky on February 01, 2007, 07:36:14 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 01, 2007, 07:34:32 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 01, 2007, 07:29:55 AM
webcomic artists are only allowed to vote, or so i think.. >:3
Is that "Only webcomic artists can vote", or "Webcomic artists can vote but not do anything else"?
**EDIT**
Scratch that, it's called "Cartoonists' Choice" so I guess it's the former...
yeah, the former.
i only got 5 hours of sleep last night, my grammar's a tad off.
NOMINATE
and vote. ;)
Quote from: fesworks on February 01, 2007, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 01, 2007, 07:36:14 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 01, 2007, 07:34:32 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on February 01, 2007, 07:29:55 AM
webcomic artists are only allowed to vote, or so i think.. >:3
Is that "Only webcomic artists can vote", or "Webcomic artists can vote but not do anything else"?
**EDIT**
Scratch that, it's called "Cartoonists' Choice" so I guess it's the former...
yeah, the former.
i only got 5 hours of sleep last night, my grammar's a tad off.
NOMINATE and vote. ;)
I bet you voted I can't I'm not a web cartoonist. If I put up one which is nothing but cockroaches having a discussion then I'm qualified. But I haven't put this out on the web so I'm not a cartoonist.
I don't think throwing something together randomly on a whim suddenly makes you a cartoonist...
I know that being a cartoonist take time and a lot of ideas and effort to make a strip. I can't imagine the whole thought process that Amber goes through every time when she makes the next strip. I bet it a very difficult process which she does it with such ease. I know this process is difficult for everybody including me. But hey all you have to do is have that drive and paitence to make this work and lot of practice to fine tune your skills.
If you want to win, then you need to, on the night before, were you socks and pajamas inside-out and put a spoon fork and knife under your pillow. I swear, everytime. (fork and knife opptional)
Good Luck Amber‼‼‼!!!!
how do you vote? ^^''
Quote from: ShiningShadow on February 01, 2007, 03:23:27 PM
I can't imagine the whole thought process that Amber goes through every time when she makes the next strip.
I bet it starts with "Wiku Wiku" :mowwink
Heh, I haveta check out those others, too...
I tried to vote at WCC they sent me a reply saying that I have to be a web cartoonist so I couldn't vote.
... You didn't read the rules first?
Sheesh. It's web cartoonist's choice. What's not to understand? :-)
Quote from: Fex on February 01, 2007, 05:42:31 PM
how do you vote? ^^''
You need to be a web cartoonist, and registration is over, I believe.
It's an award by peers, not fans.
Is there a award competition that only people who could vote like the Peoples Choice Awards on the web for the webcomic of their choice.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on February 02, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Is there a award competition that only people who could vote like the Peoples Choice Awards on the web for the webcomic of their choice.
Nope. But doing a year of planning and promotion, you could start one if you were orgnazized enough... but it would be much harder to keep track and verify each voter.. There would be tons of cheating, multiple accounts and such... just a pain in the ass to do.
I know but i can be done and in a sort has to be fair and balanced.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on February 02, 2007, 09:37:05 PM
I know but i can be done and in a sort has to be fair and balanced.
oh it can, but It just would require a LOT of work... It would have to boil down to community sites to make it more realistically managable. What make the WCCA a bit easier is that all registrators can be linked to a comic. Only one person can be representing a comic for a vote (i.e. the Writer AND Artist for Ardra cannot vote as representing Ardra... only one of them can.)... which is fair to prevent unfair advantages.
really, the best way to show support is to donate.. which the DMFA community is very good at ;)
I know it's so hard to make these things so fair and balanced no wonder the other side dosen't pratice what they preach.
Uh, where did you get THAT idea?
I get these thoughts from these guy on the web reading their comics and such. Sometimes it's not fair that these guys get passed over time and time again and not recognizeed in the *so called Wiki community* I know life is not fair so deal with it. But I'm the kind of person who love things to be fair and just that's all.
Point not explained. You lose 100 points.
It's a simple case of people who have this kind of control and power case in point of the DMFA deletion fro Wikipedia they have to vote to see if they want DMFA to stay or delete all that process for what deletion. It goes to show you that no matter what you have in control you tend to lose sight of things that should be done in a nonjudgemental matter. But that's me I love to make things fair and just because it suppose to be that way.
I'm really failing to see what wikipedia and deletion of dmfa has to do with fairness of an award procedure.
shows that someone is paying attention to the which comic they like and doing it in a neutral just look at all of the comics and decide which will be nominated that is the fair and just way.
No, it shows that someone doesn't know what he's talking about anymore and should give up.
Anyway in this case I will challenge these individuals and doi ti in manner that will surprise everybody.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on February 08, 2007, 04:28:00 PM
Anyway in this case I will challenge these individuals and doi ti in manner that will surprise everybody.
???
Hokay. Time for a "everyone out of the pool" warning.
What I think ShiningShadow is saying is he finds the wikipedia issue unfair because it is a group of people who get say over what is notable and what is not. Where as the WCCA awards is a select group (of webcartoonists) who get say in what is outstanding and what is not.
In both cases, it should be obvious why this is the way it is...and thats because if you leave something to popular vote, it is going to be infused with drama and over-rabid people trying to distort either side.
That said, I will say now I will be very very pissed if I find out any of my readers are trying to do something stupid for the sake of my comic. You guys are ultimately an extension of DMFA, and if you go off and do stunts or try to make waves...you end up making DMFA look bad by default. And if I find out some people are trying to create trouble for Wikipedia or the WCCA on "behalf" of DMFA...then expect me to slam you. It isn't helping, it is a slap to my face.
Is the WCCA a bit flawed? Probably. You have over 8,000 webcomics of varying talent and sizes...its almost impossible to have a single person read them all. But the award tries its best, and really keeping fans out of the voting/nomination makes sense since otherwise you'd end up with a major influx of people voting for the big names. It's a good start and attempt at being fair, and if you want to help in the fairness, you would work WITH them rather than try to be all commando and aloof.
In other words: Don't start waving the war banners over something that doesnt need it. I said before I dont care about the wikipedia article and I dont care that Im going to lose painfully to Lackadaisy, Digger, VGCats, or Angry D Monkey. It's life, and I didnt start a webcomic to get nominated or to be on wikipedia. Save your fighting spirit for a worthy cause. Like Puppy Mills.
Funnily enough, it's the only worth while genre to read. Seiously, good luck Amber.
Well said Amber, and I do appologize if I created trouble by starting this thread (which is why I wanted until after nominations were over).
Nothing Truer stated than that the fans are an extention of DMFA.
I shall now revert everyone to the following DMFA strip that is related to the subject:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol252.jpg
Like I said earlier in the thread, the best way for Fans to show their support for DMFA is to give Amber money, and tell people about the comic! But giving Amber money is important too! :P
hehehe
EDIT IN:
Even Still, It is just awesome enough that DMFA got nominated once again. Which already means that DMFA is well recognized amoungst many of her peers already! Even without a nomination, DMFA is apart of a great network of fellow webcomickers she has contacts with, and they all have great communities, and that is what does matter the most in this "business".... other than enjoying fine comics, of course :P
I'm sorry too Amber I didn't mean to get all Zellous on this subject. I will try and not slap you and DMFA in the face. Please forgive me for my fighting spirit.
I note, however, that Wiki editors have noted that the DMFA commentators were "unusually well-spoken"
It'd be nice if we can keep that up - speak politely, clearly, and, above-all, politely. Even if they're being a bunch of tight-wads, there's no reason for -us- to sink to their level.
After all, "Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2007, 08:03:24 AM
I note, however, that Wiki editors have noted that the DMFA commentators were "unusually well-spoken"
It'd be nice if we can keep that up - speak politely, clearly, and, above-all, politely. Even if they're being a bunch of tight-wads, there's no reason for -us- to sink to their level.
After all, "Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." :-)
Your're right on this one. I would register for wiki but as of right now i'm on the fence on this and to continue to support DMFA on your fan site.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2007, 08:03:24 AM
After all, "Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." :-)
:boogie Try this one
Never argue with an Idiot, you never change his mind, and onlookings will not be able to tell which one of you is the most idiotic.
Good Luck Amber, WCCA may surprise you (and some of us)
PBH
Do not answer fools according to their folly,
or you will be a fool yourself.(Proverbs 26:4)
Answer fools according to their folly,
or they will be wise in their own eyes.(Proverbs 26:5)
Let's not bring religious texts into this, you'll only cause more drama.
Quote from: Manawolf on February 09, 2007, 07:10:59 PM
Let's not bring religious texts into this, you'll only cause more drama.
No way! IT'S ON NOW!!!!
:P
Quote from: Manawolf on February 09, 2007, 07:10:59 PM
Let's not bring religious texts into this, you'll only cause more drama.
Reguardless of source, good advice is good advice.
(Would you, I ask, have thought about it if he had not referenced his source?)
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on February 01, 2007, 01:07:19 PM
I don't think throwing something together randomly on a whim suddenly makes you a cartoonist...
Oh sure it does. It just doesn't make you a good cartoonist. ^_-
Quote from: Goatmon on February 10, 2007, 07:24:48 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on February 01, 2007, 01:07:19 PM
I don't think throwing something together randomly on a whim suddenly makes you a cartoonist...
Oh sure it does. It just doesn't make you a good cartoonist. ^_-
Thanks i like that :).
Speaking of which, the Ursa Major Awards for Anthropomorphic works in going on now!
You can support DMFA in the comic strip category.
http://www.ursamajorawards.org/
But don;t just slingshot over there. Be honest about everything on that form, and look into the other categories too.
Quote from: fesworks on February 13, 2007, 11:43:16 AM
Speaking of which, the Ursa Major Awards for Anthropomorphic works in going on now!
You can support DMFA in the comic strip category.
http://www.ursamajorawards.org/
But don;t just slingshot over there. Be honest about everything on that form, and look into the other categories too.
Thanks Fes I will look into that and I will put my 2cents in a very respectful and articulate way. Thanks again :).
I know I'm doing this so I won't get yelled at for double posting I found this article from my Newspaper in NYC the paper is called The NY Post. This article was found in the weird but true section. Here it is "The History Department at Vermont's Middlebury College has banned the online encyclopedia Wikipedia as a source for school papers. Students are still allowed to consult the site, where anybody can add or edit inforamtion, but can't list it as a factual source. The folks at Wikipedia support the move." So in short as a source they are not reliable and even them at Wikipedia agree to this because it's true goes to show you if you are this big then you should have eveything right in the first place and be a souce of information that is right and factual.