What's with the news paper? foreshadow foreshadow......
Is Fa'lina going to be staying outside SAIA for two months? I don't get this one ???
Woohoo! First time-first post :boogie :boogie :boogie
Spider Hair, a new fashion trend!
Mr. Akisohida! Just what were you doing hiding under Dan's bed, hmm?
Frizzled tails are better than normal ones. Cause they's fluffeh. :3
QuoteI am the one hiding under your stairs...
Had to be said. Is it just me, or is Fa'lina's bust size increasing? This gonna be Jyrras' ears all over again? It's BOOBZILLA!
Also, a conjecture. If Fa'Lina can predict things better within SAIA, does that mean she's better at predicting what will happen in SAIA or does being there actually enhance her apparant clairvoyence?
I thought boobszilla was reseved for Wildy...
I think abel's just about to explode. I hope fa'lina's leaving him in peace :3
I wonder what he was about to say before the spiders conveniently cut off his speech?
This goes right with the observations so far, but I'm glad that it's now proper Canon. :)
Fa'Lina didn't really know of Daniel's existence or location. She also didn't see Pyro being at Lost Lake. Or him dating.
Her being in tune with the Academy makes perfect sense, but godlike senses that span the entire world? Nope.
I assume the "two months" refers to the implied question of how long it would take until things become completely unpredictable to her. Right now, Abel is sort of a beacon for Fa'Lina, but his ties to the Academy are cut off for now, so she's sorta losing his signal. Which would explain why she wasn't able to home in on Pyro.
Kinda like a slow Fog of War, so to speak. :P
EDIT: Ha, spotted wallpaper! Told you so! :boogie
Quote from: Boogeyman on January 25, 2007, 08:56:06 PMIf Fa'Lina can predict things better within SAIA, does that mean she's better at predicting what will happen in SAIA or does being there actually enhance her apparant clairvoyence?
What he said.
As for two months, it sounds like the span of time before she cannot predict the future. (Darn you, Ninja Sid!)
Also, she says that she has complete insight and power while at SAIA. That sounds awful munchkin-y to me.
Unless... (Seek cover!)
If SAIA is an extension of Fa'Lina herself, it might be possible for Fa'Lina to be able to have power over all of it, and be able to enhance her predictive powers. Of course, this would make Fa'Lina a Load Bearing Boss (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LoadBearingBoss), which is generally a Bad Thing.
The Rolled up Newspaper...
BOOT TO THE HEAD!
Meh. It's just another indicator of Fa'Lina's general idiocy to me...
Also, spiders aren't bad. They're cuddly! Right, Charline...? >:3
Quote from: superluser on January 25, 2007, 09:10:31 PM
(Darn you, Ninja Sid!)
:mowninja
Quote from: superluser on January 25, 2007, 09:10:31 PM
If SAIA is an extension of Fa'Lina herself, it might be possible for Fa'Lina to be able to have power over all of it, and be able to enhance her predictive powers.
I kinda had to think of Pratchett's "Equal Rites", where Granny Weatherwax discovers that the Unseen University has a personality of its own. So (if we boldly apply something like that to DMFA) Fa'Lina might actually tap into the mind of the Academy, so to speak.
No, I don't personally believe in that theory (at least not strongly), it's just something that your post reminded me of, and it's an alternate possibility. Of course, it doesn't properly factor in the whole 2-months business... or other stuff... :/
Quote from: Boogeyman on January 25, 2007, 08:56:06 PM
QuoteI am the one hiding under your stairs...
Had to be said. Is it just me, or is Fa'lina's bust size increasing? This gonna be Jyrras' ears all over again? It's BOOBZILLA!
Also, a conjecture. If Fa'Lina can predict things better within SAIA, does that mean she's better at predicting what will happen in SAIA or does being there actually enhance her apparant clairvoyence?
Quotewith fingers like snakesn ans spiders in my hair
aw you beat me too the best part but at leas we all know that Dan is very resistant to spider poison. after his sisters yous to make antidote out of his blood or at least she used to try to. also clear visone repsles on understand how thins will interacted alsmot as much as seeing what will happen. it's not just Scry and know
hehehe, poor Abel, but i wonder what kind of spiders they are?... Jumping spiders?
they're kinda cute (http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/biodiv/spiders/0024.jpg), y'know.
Jumping spiders? Cute? Not when one flies in your face... :erk
I LOVE Fa'lina's smirk in the third panel. Tsk, poor Abel and his spiders...
If Abel's covered in hair, does that mean the spiders are all over him?
I like the scardey-Abel tail in the 3rd panel. :3
Quote from: Sid on January 25, 2007, 09:24:38 PMI kinda had to think of Pratchett's "Equal Rites", where Granny Weatherwax discovers that the Unseen University has a personality of its own. So (if we boldly apply something like that to DMFA) Fa'Lina might actually tap into the mind of the Academy, so to speak.
No, I don't personally believe in that theory (at least not strongly), it's just something that your post reminded me of, and it's an alternate possibility. Of course, it doesn't properly factor in the whole 2-months business... or other stuff... :/
Or in Wyrd Sisters where Granny discovers that the land has a mind of its own. Funny, he seems to copy himself a lot...
If SAIA doesn't harbor an extension of Fa'Lina's essence and we take Fa'Lina's statement at face value, then that makes Fa'Lina a super-munchkin, even for the Quest-giving guy.
What she said was that the had complete insight and power, not that she had complete insight and power over SAIA, although that would still make her a munchkin, albeit in the same way that Achilles was.
Now it could be that Fa'Lina is not gifted with perfect oracular vision in or out of SAIA; she just thinks that she is. For example, after she does something, and the future turns out differently than she expects, this feature rewrites her long-term memory such that she remembers having predicted the outcome and a rationalization for her actions is also inserted. (Sorry, it just sounded like a really neat idea for a Science Fiction novel)
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on January 25, 2007, 09:34:01 PMI LOVE Fa'lina's smirk in the third panel.
It looks less like a smirk, and more like...well, my interpretations start at opium and get less family-friendly from there.
Also: I'd like to be the first to mention Early Edition.
Edit:
Quote from: modelincard on January 25, 2007, 10:04:40 PMIf Abel's covered in hair, does that mean the spiders are all over him?
Abel is covered in
fur. He only has hair on his head. Don't make me explain the difference between vellus and terminal hair!
There is an artificial distinction usually made for the "fur" on one's head and that on the rest of the body. Its one of the noticeable human traits in anthropomorphism.
What could ever be going through Fa'Lina's head? >:3
It's been awhile since anyone's had that devious look in their eyes, makes for a humorous change.
well amber allready allerted us to the spider problem a while back, so it appears that they've migrated from the basement, at least the big ones are still down there.
Spiders are cool, they are fuzzy and tasty... and they make strange sounds when you scritch them.
Quote from: superluser on January 25, 2007, 10:25:13 PM
Also: I'd like to be the first to mention Early Edition.
Nuuu!!! You beat me! And I thought I was updating myself on the various webcomics early tonight!
I hate spiders.
Although, I will say I haven't known any personally :3
I think I've developed slight arachnophobia, at least in real life. Why? Tell that to the bite upon my groin.
How the spider got down there I will never know...
Ever sense my dream of being on a driver less bus with a red spider chasing me i've been leery of spiders. not exactly afraid of them but respectful enough not to kill them at random
I kill them on sight in my room. After all, if they are nearby, that means they are within distance to bite me in the night for no apparent reason while they crawl across my body.
I'll get those ****ers, that I will.
Quote from: Turnsky on January 25, 2007, 09:31:32 PM
hehehe, poor Abel, but i wonder what kind of spiders they are?... Jumping spiders?
they're kinda cute (http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/biodiv/spiders/0024.jpg), y'know.
Or better,
(http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biodiversity/invertebratesprog/spiders/images/Delena_cancerides_250.jpg) (http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biodiversity/invertebratesprog/spiders/avondale.asp).
Avondale Spiders.
Nasty looking creatures, with a leg span up to eight inches.
They are also sweet natured, harmless, and the mommy and daddy spiders raise the kids together.
Made famous in the movie Arachniphobia.
The Auld Grump
While I hate spiders in my room (as they will most likely be the ones biting me in the night), I hate all these horror movies that demonize animals. **** the animals, I'd like to see some actual demons, and ones that aren't so weak they have to prey on defenseless teenagers.
Seriously Hollywood, let's try for something with an actual good original story to it.
QuoteI'd like to see some actual demons, and ones that aren't so weak they have to prey on defenseless teenagers.
Quoted For Truth.
Also, I would like to see a horror movie that the only people who survived were the ones who had sex.
Double points if it was in an orgy.
Triple if they smoked and had a few beers afterwards.
...
Ok, so it sounds like a porno, but damn it.... iI'm tired of this sex=death crap.
(Although if that applied to real life I would live
FOREVER)
*edit for language and using life and live in the wrong places.
Meh, would be cool to see a cubi in action, though. The whole transformation midway and then soulsucking upon orgasm. Double points for the guy still going out with a smile.
looks like we can ad the spider fear to Abel's fear list
Quote from: Azlan on January 25, 2007, 10:47:19 PM
There is an artificial distinction usually made for the "fur" on one's head and that on the rest of the body. Its one of the noticeable human traits in anthropomorphism.
That, and some people confuse the issue further (no pun intended!) by using the term "headfur" to refer to the hair on their character's head...
Quote from: Fex on January 26, 2007, 03:07:44 AM
looks like we can ad the spider fear to Abel's fear list
That's what I was thinking. Poor Abel. It must be awful to be afraid of so many things. And even worse, to be afraid of so many things and still try to look tough.
Quote from: Sid on January 25, 2007, 09:07:32 PM
This goes right with the observations so far, but I'm glad that it's now proper Canon. :)
Fa'Lina didn't really know of Daniel's existence or location. She also didn't see Pyro being at Lost Lake. Or him dating.
Her being in tune with the Academy makes perfect sense, but godlike senses that span the entire world? Nope.
While I'm convinced that's the case, it's not actually what she said. She's just said that she has 'complete insight' when she's within the Academy but not when she's outside of it.
She hasn't clarified to what extent she can predict things which happen outside the Academy while she is inside it. (She seems to have big problems predicting Abel's behaviour at the best of times)
Anyroad, I've updated the wiki to reflect what she's said and Abel's phobias (how the heck did I leave out the haemophobia business?)
This comic has the best art in the series so far for sure.
I think that the two months is in reference to the amount of time that Fa'Lina can keep her semi-omnipotence out of SAIA. She probably used her mind reading ability on Abel when he gacked up his statement, because you can't really expect a guy to keep up a mind shield when he gets freaked out by a spider.
Quote from: Zedd on January 25, 2007, 08:58:30 PMI thought boobszilla was reseved for Wildy...
yep... fa'lina is more like Boobicron
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 26, 2007, 06:02:31 AM
Quote from: Zedd on January 25, 2007, 08:58:30 PMI thought boobszilla was reseved for Wildy...
yep... fa'lina is more like Boobicron
Boobicron! Eater of guy faces!
You don't really have to have a phobia of spiders to be freaked out by them. I had a wolf spider land by my head while I was trying to get to sleep once, that made me jump. Anything crawling in your hair (or even your personal space) is likely to be upsetting.
In one of the previous strips Abel referred to his room as 'the spider filled room' do you think he'd stay there if he has arachnophobia?
Edit: something just occurred to me on seeing Fa'Lina (especially that her lipstick doesn't go all the way back)would DMFA Canines be able to drink without lapping? can they drink from a glass/cup normally? What would be the social rules regarding this?
Quote from: Tycoon on January 26, 2007, 05:56:32 AM
She probably used her mind reading ability on Abel when he gacked up his statement, because you can't really expect a guy to keep up a mind shield when he gets freaked out by a spider.
I don't really know how 'cubi mind-shields work but they are magic-based - most likely an innate ability, and something of an automatic process like the spell Abel used on Jyrras.
I don't think they're as prone to distractions as the deliberate mental exercises Beings often use to hide their thoughts.
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 26, 2007, 06:05:36 AM
You don't really have to have a phobia of spiders to be freaked out by them. In one of the previous strips Abel referred to his room as 'the spider filled room' do you think he'd stay there if he has arachnophobia?
I deliberately avoided the term in the wiki since we don't know how strong it is or whether it's a true phobia. Bear in mind that he kills them on sight, though (see 607)
By way of comparison, I have an irrational fear of fungi. Whether it's a phobia as such I couldn't say, but it's very deep-seated. If I see them on a grass verge while walking past, I will hold my breath until I've gone past, most likely to avoid breathing in the spores. It's not completely a conscious decision. Last August I was walking through the woods quite happily until I came across a whole load of the things and froze immediately. Later on it occurred to me that I was using exactly the same reflex as a small animal spotting a predator.
I'm thinking Abel's reaction is akin to this. If someone hid a mushroom in my drawer or backpack at work, I would behave very much like Abel in this strip.
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 26, 2007, 06:05:36 AMEdit: something just occurred to me on seeing Fa'Lina (especially that her lipstick doesn't go all the way back)would DMFA Canines be able to drink without lapping? can they drink from a glass/cup normally? What would be the social rules regarding this?
you can notice on the second panel that she can stretch her cheek all the way to the end of her muzzle. Even real canines can do that except to a lower extent, when they do prolonged barks, they stretch their cheeks to cover half of their muzzles.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2007, 06:21:51 AMI don't really know how 'cubi mind-shields work but they are magic-based - most likely an innate ability, and something of an automatic process like the spell Abel used on Jyrras.
I'm of the opinion that it's less explicitly casted magic and more of that innate ability, like sucking in your chest. Abel can shift shapes, himself, or shift others, but not using the same techniques. I would assume the same about shields.
Actually, I've got a story rattling around that involves mind reading, but follows a completely different theory, which makes mind shields (A) really expensive, and (B) usually idiotic.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2007, 06:21:51 AMBear in mind that he kills them on sight, though (see 607)
Well, we don't know that he's responsible for those spider deaths. He could have told the basement rats about them, and they killed them.
*waves more Fa'Lina flags* :3
Quote from: superluser on January 26, 2007, 06:48:07 AM
I'm of the opinion that it's less explicitly casted magic and more of that innate ability, like sucking in your chest. Abel can shift shapes, himself, or shift others, but not using the same techniques. I would assume the same about shields.
Probably, but the point is that it's probably too low-level to be disrupted by emotional impacts very much. Whereas with a consciously-maintained shield of the type non-magical Beings use - apparently by concentrating on irrelevant things to keep the more important thoughts hidden - a sufficiently big distraction ought to give you a chink in their armour.
Quote
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2007, 06:21:51 AMBear in mind that he kills them on sight, though (see 607)
Well, we don't know that he's responsible for those spider deaths. He could have told the basement rats about them, and they killed them.
That's more likely. Either way, he wants them
dead so I'd say it's bordering on a phobia.
Quote from: Zedd on January 26, 2007, 06:05:14 AM
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 26, 2007, 06:02:31 AM
Quote from: Zedd on January 25, 2007, 08:58:30 PMI thought boobszilla was reseved for Wildy...
yep... fa'lina is more like Boobicron
Boobicron! Eater of guy faces!
You noticed that too? the Boobinator will Boobinate you. Anywho Abel hates spiders If i was torturing Abel I will bring out every spider including the hairy Tarantula I will get every secrets from SAIA and everything else to boot as a bonus >:3 >:3.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 26, 2007, 07:02:27 AMProbably, but the point is that it's probably too low-level to be disrupted by emotional impacts very much. Whereas with a consciously-maintained shield of the type non-magical Beings use - apparently by concentrating on irrelevant things to keep the more important thoughts hidden - a sufficiently big distraction ought to give you a chink in their armour.
(1) Low-level or not, I don't think that emotions are likely to have any effect on experienced `cubi's mind shields. (Yay for agreement!)
(2) While we know that Aary could hear Jyrras' cover (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_587.php), we don't know that it was actually effective in stopping her from reading any of his other thoughts.
(3) Jyrras seems to have an irrational fear of `cubi. Perhaps he recognizes this, and that's why he's so sensitive to anti-`cubi racism in others?
P.S.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 26, 2007, 02:43:55 AMMeh, would be cool to see a cubi in action, though. The whole transformation midway and then soulsucking upon orgasm. Double points for the guy still going out with a smile.
That very smile is already featured in panel 3...
Quote from: Kenji on January 25, 2007, 08:50:17 PM
Mr. Akisohida! Just what were you doing hiding under Dan's bed, hmm?
Frizzled tails are better than normal ones. Cause they's fluffeh. :3
Hey! Those must be my neices and nephiews considering the fact that I am just too big to fit under a bed and in someones hair! ^.^ Plus, what is wrong with spiders? The more legs one has, the more ways a person can be hugged!
Yayyyyyy spider hugs. I love spiders to when I catch a fly with my barehands and rip off the wings and feed the to a spider watching it putting in the poision to paralyseand take it deeper in its home to devour it some more.
I think I'll skip breakfast now... :yuck
Regardless of how many spider characters I have, or characters with some affiliation to spiders in general (Such as the ability to talk to them, or a clan with a spider-shaped marking), I'm scared crapless of spiders. Hate 'em. Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. How some of you guys could NOT be afraid of them, I have no idea. *starts scrubbing away the taint from looking at the jumping spider picture*
As repeated before, poor Abel. If I had spiders in my hair, I'd likely die from a heart attack before even screaming about them being there. Fa'Lina, get your big-boobied butt down there and start putting that newspaper to good, spider-squishing use!
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I think its a coo thing not to be afraid of spiders. But If you hate them hey get a shoe, newspaper, or a 2x4 to kill these buggers.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 26, 2007, 08:19:28 AM
Regardless of how many spider characters I have, or characters with some affiliation to spiders in general (Such as the ability to talk to them, or a clan with a spider-shaped marking), I'm scared crapless of spiders. Hate 'em. Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. How some of you guys could NOT be afraid of them, I have no idea. *starts scrubbing away the taint from looking at the jumping spider picture*
As repeated before, poor Abel. If I had spiders in my hair, I'd likely die from a heart attack before even screaming about them being there.
Yup, I'm also scared of them. Not to the degree of having arachnophobia (I can watch them on TV and on pictures, even though I don't like it, but finding one clinging to my wall makes me twitch a bit. Or a good bit, depending on size.), but finding one in my hair would produce an Abel-like reaction.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 26, 2007, 08:19:28 AM
Fa'Lina, get your big-boobied butt down there and start putting that newspaper to good, spider-squishing use!
"Big-boobied butt" gives me all sorts of wrong mental images... :erk
And I think she'll wait until Abel comes out from under the bed, spider still in his hair, before... *KER-CRACK*
You know, two birds and one stone... >:3
I love spiders. They're tiny, fuzzy, and skitter around. But I absolutely hate scorpions. They click, they clatter, they move randomly, and they're horribly poisonous. So I can understand why Abel reacts a similar way to spiders. But that doesn't mean it isn't funny. :giggle And who else thinks that when Abel gets out from under there, Fa'Lina will smack the spiders with the newspaper, then whack Abel on the nose with it?
*Charline erfs at the spiders in Abel's hair* See? I'm not the only one. :<
*Charles hmms* I wonder if Fa'lina's forsight has anything to do with the Librarian...
Quote from: Alondro on January 26, 2007, 09:53:18 AM
*Charline erfs at the spiders in Abel's hair* See? I'm not the only one. :<
*Charles hmms* I wonder if Fa'lina's forsight has anything to do with the Librarian...
I still think Charline is playing hard to get. ;)
It would be nice to know more about the library incident, yes. Fa seems to know alot and let on to alot more. :)
Quote from: Akisohida on January 26, 2007, 11:06:16 AM
Quote from: Alondro on January 26, 2007, 09:53:18 AM
*Charline erfs at the spiders in Abel's hair* See? I'm not the only one. :<
*Charles hmms* I wonder if Fa'lina's forsight has anything to do with the Librarian...
I still think Charline is playing hard to get. ;)
*Charline hmphs and holds an extra-large can of RAID* You just wanna suck out my innards! Back! Back! :tantrum
*Charles pooookes Fa'lina's bosom* Even beeeger boobehs! *poke poke poke poke*
*Alondro makes a rare appearance to warn* You may not want to be doing that..
*Charles bah* Fa'lina's in the comic! She can't do anything to me! *poke poke poke*
*Alondro blinks* But you're touching her. That means you've crosses over teh fourth wall and are thus vulnerable to her wrath*
*Charles poke poke... poke... ... poke* Uh-oh... *a scene of indescribable carnage* :knifed
But in my case I find spiders very fascinating and fun to look at and to smash them when needed. If I see a very large spide comming towards me I pull out my 50. Cal machine gun and pull the trigger.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 26, 2007, 06:02:31 AM
Quote from: Zedd on January 25, 2007, 08:58:30 PMI thought boobszilla was reseved for Wildy...
yep... fa'lina is more like Boobicron
Great Pixies, Guys, We have the Amber drawing better and better.... And All I hear is Wow, Hippo hips and Boobszilla remarks. Yes, Fa'lina has change since her first apppearance in #425 comic,(no, I'm not linking to it, look it up) and that was two years or more ago. Fa'lina has become more defined. And since the SAIA arc, Amber hasn't been afraid for a little fan-service art. Sure Fa'lina's dress is a little ... different, but she is a shapeshifter, so she can add and accent anything she wants.
Murf, You guys, act like you have all been bottlefed or something.... :mowhappy
:mowtongue
PBH
BTW: I like the two panel best...
Quote from: Alondro on January 26, 2007, 01:32:09 PM
*Charline hmphs and holds an extra-large can of RAID* You just wanna suck out my innards! Back! Back! :tantrum
Charline you never answered the question I posed to you in the Hippo hips thread
Is it just spiders or is italso other insects to?
Quote from: thegayhare on January 26, 2007, 02:22:01 PM
Quote from: Alondro on January 26, 2007, 01:32:09 PM
*Charline hmphs and holds an extra-large can of RAID* You just wanna suck out my innards! Back! Back! :tantrum
Charline you never answered the question I posed to you in the Hippo hips thread
Is it just spiders or is italso other insects to?
I believe there is a simple way to find an answer to that... *
pulls out a ruler-long centipede and puts it on Charline's back* Also, stop screaming, Charles! That's what she does to everyone she loves, obviously... *
takes a look at the offtopicness*
Speaking of the strands, does The Gay Hare have Gay Hair?
Ok...too many mentions of certain anatomy in thread...
Quote from: KarlOmega1 on January 26, 2007, 02:30:56 PM
Ok...too many mentions of certain anatomy in thread...
What? Hair?
PBH
Quote from: Stygian on January 26, 2007, 02:29:41 PM
Speaking of the strands, does The Gay Hare have Gay Hair?
nope but only cause I'm bald... I don't have hair just fur
and yes this topic is entirly too hairy
Quote from: Manawolf on January 26, 2007, 02:28:08 AM
Seriously Hollywood, let's try for something with an actual good original story to it.
Want a great over the top horror story that Hollywood Effects could run wild with?
The Bureau 13 series. (book adaptations of the Tri Tac game by Nick Pollotta)
Demons, Vampires, dread beasties of all types (including Godzilla... those movies are after the fact coverups of REAL fights with the Big Guy!), anything and everything. Fought by a secret branch of the FBI with guts, magic, and very high tech.
Story? How about a Catholic Priest member of the team (uses a shotgun, along with holy water and other such items) who dies, and is resurrected by his team mates using magic, and firmly demands they not DO that again, as it's not accepted by the Church. Atlantean slaves who had the guts to steal magic gear (at huge cost in lives) to sink the island, and knowingly kill
all of themselves, to stop the evil ones ruling that land by sinking it?
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 26, 2007, 02:16:34 PM
Murf, You guys, act like you have all been bottlefed or something.... :mowhappy
I wasn't bottlefed, but the attraction to the concept is still there... *cough*
And yes, Amber's art is -still- improving in leaps and bounds. And we're all envious.... Aren't we?
Quote from: SkipSanders on January 26, 2007, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: Manawolf on January 26, 2007, 02:28:08 AM
Seriously Hollywood, let's try for something with an actual good original story to it.
Want a great over the top horror story that Hollywood Effects could run wild with?
The Bureau 13 series. (book adaptations of the Tri Tac game by Nick Pollotta)
Demons, Vampires, dread beasties of all types (including Godzilla... those movies are after the fact coverups of REAL fights with the Big Guy!), anything and everything. Fought by a secret branch of the FBI with guts, magic, and very high tech.
Story? How about a Catholic Priest member of the team (uses a shotgun, along with holy water and other such items) who dies, and is resurrected by his team mates using magic, and firmly demands they not DO that again, as it's not accepted by the Church. Atlantean slaves who had the guts to steal magic gear (at huge cost in lives) to sink the island, and knowingly kill all of themselves, to stop the evil ones ruling that land by sinking it?
Now we could only get them to wake up and try to do that, without horribly raping the story and characters in the process.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 26, 2007, 02:16:34 PMAnd All I hear is Wow, Hippo hips and Boobszilla remarks.
(Points to Amber) She started it! At least with hippo hips. I don't think that anyone here much cares about that. Except me, who fears that America's current obsession with slim-hipped anorexics is going to lead to a rise in fistula...
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 26, 2007, 02:16:34 PMFa'lina has become more defined.
Actually, no she hasn't. That's the problem. If her nose had grown, we would have had no problem discussing this. In 729, her breasts appear much larger than they did in 591, which was just over 100 strips ago. In 730, they seem to be smaller than 729. Yes, she's no longer leaning over, but I don't think you'll change a cup size and a half from that. In 740 (today's strip), she is huge.
The problem isn't that her breasts are large and intimidating, but rather that her body is not on model. I'm really not one of those whining about Fa'Lina's breasts, but I'll admit that they have a point.
Once again, I don't want to whip out the ruler in Gimp, but I'll do it.
For the record, her nose has changed since 591, but from 727 to now, it seems to have been relatively consistent.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 26, 2007, 02:16:34 PMMurf, You guys, act like you have all been bottlefed or something....
I'm reminded of the ad for Alteon Networks. (No, I'm not going to link it. I'm not going to even get involved in the discussion of whether images of breastfeeding are safe for work)
QuoteQuote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 26, 2007, 02:16:34 PMMurf, You guys, act like you have all been bottlefed or something....
I'm reminded of the ad for Alteon Networks. (No, I'm not going to link it. I'm not going to even get involved in the discussion of whether images of breastfeeding are safe for work)
Actually, If Breastfeeding was safe for work, we would not be having this debate...but I will get back to you on the rest..
PBH
Note: yes that is right guys, their main function is to feed babies... That is why you love them so much..Bigger ones along with bigger hips... mean bigger babies "so said your primitive minds
Only if they're natural, also they're just fun to touch/grope...
My pervertedness aside, I wonder why she doesn't just shapeshift to a smaller state and get in that way. She could then offer tea to the spiders to get them off Abel, then his gratitude would be turned into a conversation.
I shouldn't have mentioned her breasts earlier. Super's right, it's a matter of character model.
And what's not to like about spiders? They're useful and pretty much all of the ones dangerous to humans and actually spend any time near them are in Australia. Which would you prefer, spiders eating other bugs or mosquitos and ticks eating you?
*Charles snerks* I used to be afraid of them. It was to the point where I had nightmares about dinner-plate sized spiders that couldn't be destroyed! Even when beating them with an axe! But that's all in the past now. I've cast that fear on Charline! She doesn't know I did it! Ha ha ha! ;)
*stops the tape recorder* what's that about not knowing?
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 26, 2007, 05:52:57 PM
Actually, If Breastfeeding was safe for work, we would not be having this debate...but I will get back to you on the rest..
PBH
Note: yes that is right guys, their main function is to feed babies... That is why you love them so much..Bigger ones along with bigger hips... mean bigger babies "so said your primitive minds
I beg to differ, actually. On both points. :-)
Breastfeeding is, in my totally arrogant opinion, perfectly natural, and just one of those things. And, as a guy who likes looking, I shouldn't be looking while someone is breastfeeding - that's just impolite on -my- part. They're talking, I should be looking at their face, not their chest. But that goes for when they're -not- breastfeeding, as well. On that basis, I see no problem with breastfeeding at work. On the other hand, I can't see why browsing pictures of breastfeeding is something that someone should be doing in an IT company, either... but I'm not about to slam someone for viewing them.
Also, being full of milk makes them bigger (no, really. I'm sure -you- know this, PBH, but for the rest of the folks watching, I believe it's something like, ah, up to a cup and a half or more - usually at least one size.) Interestingly, small breasts also tend to supply more milk than the larger variety - I don't know if they swell more or not, my sample size is a tad small (1 pair, not on my chest) for statistical analysis...
I've never understood the sexualazation of the female breast
unless your a hungery infant they shouldnt have any sort of magnetic attraction
sure they are an erogenous zone (I think thats mainly the nipple but how would I know) but so is the male version but one is obscene and the other is considered harmless
I just don't understand the atraction to breasts
Probably because they're considered to be an important part of anatomy and clothes help to protect the human anatomy from the elements. The idea was started as "don't go naked cause it might impact your ability to bear children" then evolved into the "it isn't appropriate" of today.
Not everyone does, TGH. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that very few people understand why.
Not everyone is attracted to them. That's just part and parcel of the way that people vary.
Interestingly, close-up pictures of cleavage resemble, significantly, close-up pictures of the buttocks. Make of that what you will, but anthropologists have a number of theories regarding primary sexual characteristic displays, and how these may have developed as Man started standing upright, etc, etc, but, to be honest, it's all just waffle.
The basic point is this: When dealing with people, some do, some don't. Social sciences pretty much all boil down to that, bluntly, and unless you've spent years looking into it, you're pretty much going to be stuck with that answer, unsatisfying as it is. *shrug*
I like breasts, you don't. Welcome to humanity. :-)
Valynth: "don't go naked so you don't get cold" is basic sense. Hiding from each other is not something you'll find in, say, Indian culture - 12 people living in one room, you're not going to stop having sex just because there are people around. The western culture's fascination with hiding things and pretending they're not there dates only as far back as the Victorians. Not that we're really any more sane, generally speaking, than they were...
Oh, and take, say, Pacific Island culture, where hiding the torso, male or female, doesn't tend to happen. Well, it does now that western culture has infected the locals, but the locals didn't have a bar of it before the European explorers (Sir Francis Drake, or Christopher Columbus, for example) wandered through and let missionaries loose.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 27, 2007, 12:12:44 AMAlso, being full of milk makes them bigger
Yes, well, unless Fa'Lina got pregnant sometime between two days ago and now, that doesn't really explain it.
I meant to mention this earlier, but couldn't figure out a way to fit it in, so I'm just going to barrel through. Had it been any other body part (like Fa'Lina's nose), by now we would have seen comments about her schnoz, proboscis, or honker, but instead we get elliptical comments about ``too many mentions of certain anatomy'' or ``If you're refering to what I think you are (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1631.msg65457#msg65457),'' presumably before collapsing on the chaise lounge for fear of the vapors.
I also have a theory that the real reason that `cubi are hated is because, being able to change their bone structure, they can get through childbirth with no trouble at all, causing universal hatred among the fairer sex.
By the way, you have seen the Alteon ad, right, llearch?
Quote from: thegayhare on January 27, 2007, 12:40:04 AMI've never understood the sexualazation of the female breast
It's a surrogate for the butt (Darn you Ninja Llearch!). Humans walk upright and thus the butt is less noticeable. To compensate for this, humans have developed permanent breasts, unlike most other mammals, which only have full breasts when breastfeeding. Psychology texts often contain comparisons of butt cleavage and breast cleavage. They look a *lot* alike.
Personally, I'm most attracted to the largest sexual organ in the body (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain) (linked to ward off prudes).
Quote from: superluser on January 27, 2007, 12:54:08 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 27, 2007, 12:12:44 AMAlso, being full of milk makes them bigger
Yes, well, unless Fa'Lina got pregnant sometime between two days ago and now, that doesn't really explain it.
I wasn't even suggesting that. Although I did think about it for a moment. However, it usually takes a couple months or more for that effect to kick in, and it doesn't really settle in until the last trimester, judging by what I saw...
Quote from: superluser on January 27, 2007, 12:54:08 AM
By the way, you have seen the Alteon ad, right, llearch?
I don't think so. I can guess at the content, though. I -did- see a series of livejournal icons, where a number of people were objecting that the LJ admins removed a picture of someone breastfeeding, when used as an avatar. Something about "it's perfectly natural, legal, and acceptable - but I can't have an icon of my child?" or something. I agreed at the time, but didn't manage to remember the rhetoric...
Quote from: superluser on January 27, 2007, 12:54:08 AM
Personally, I'm most attracted to the largest sexual organ in the body (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain) (linked to ward off prudes).
Well, of course. The rest is just nice to look at... if that organ isn't present, then just write the rest of it off as a waste of skin...
Pretty skin, but what a waste...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 27, 2007, 12:50:54 AM
Interestingly, close-up pictures of cleavage resemble, significantly, close-up pictures of the buttocks.
So does the inside of your elbow.
The late night ads taught me that :E
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 27, 2007, 12:50:54 AM
Interestingly, close-up pictures of cleavage resemble, significantly, close-up pictures of the buttocks. Make of that what you will, but anthropologists have a number of theories regarding primary sexual characteristic displays
Actualy I have yeard that, I saw a documentery about the seince of human sexuality, and they did mention that... I think there reasoning had to do with the shape reminding you of the sexual organs. All because the human speices lacks a penile bone so it takes more effort for the male to stay interested.
but who knows,
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 27, 2007, 12:50:54 AM
I like breasts, you don't. Welcome to humanity. :-)
Awww I hope I didn't offent just cause I'm not (and don't understand) the atraction to the female breast doesn't mean I look down on those that are. Everyone has there own tastes.
I wouldn't expect you to find the same things atractive in a young ldy as I do in a young man... in fact in some cases that might be impossible
There's a large amount of research that has gone into what is found attractive and why.
For example did you know being on the pill means your more likely to be attracted to someone with a similar immune system to your rather that a different one as nature intended?
Also women's breasts are meant to swell slightly when they are fertile. Of course then came breast augmentation.
The reason attraction an the idea of beauty is some messed up now is thousands of years of culture going against biology. Even wearing clothes messed things up a little, cosmetics and washing products even more so. It used to be we knew what beauty was,now we are told. Kind of messed up huh?
A good example of this is the Dove 'evolution of beauty' video
http://www.dove.co.uk/uk_en/uk_en/index.html (http://www.dove.co.uk/uk_en/uk_en/index.html)
you can also get the video at albinoblacksheep.com
"I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face" ---Eddie Murfy
I must I must Increase my Bust" -Lords of Acid
So I think Hope is not all lost, Fads may come and ago, but biology still holds sway. One study into "what is attractive?" found that no matter what culture or time, Thin or fat A attractive female body falls into a ratio of waiste size is 60-70% of breast/hip size.
"People" magazine recently had a EX-model on the cover after she gain 30lb, and fire back at critics, That she was not fat at her idea weight of 161....
I know a few girls whose breast size actual change a size or 1 1/2 size over a month... And It is not true that smaller breast product more milk, it varys by individual. My cousin had DD size and had five children, her crest grew with each child, and she was told to breastfeed to reduce their size. By her last pregnancy, her cup had reach a "N" cup, and she had to be reduced to a H cup. On the other side of the scale, a friend had only small B and grew to a DD cup for her child, but she had to eat constantly to breastfeed and she still need to fall back on formula for her 9lb son. And she return to her old size of B after weening her son.
My comments, about Bigger is better, and your own attractive to breast shows that you can be told all you what to think about what is attractive. But Men know what they like. The problem is the Media is confusing young girls with mixed signals in Teen mags and fashions designs.
PBH
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 27, 2007, 09:35:00 AM
"I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face" ---Eddie Murfy
I must I must Increase my Bust" -Lords of Acid
Your first quote is actually the song Baby Got Back by Sir Mix-a-Lot
I didn't know where the second one was from but, after a quick Google search, it comes from
Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret. by Judy Blume
:tmyk
See, Amber? *This* is why boobzilla is bad. It causes forumites to start discussing evolutionary biology.
Quote from: Kasarn on January 27, 2007, 10:02:13 AMYour first quote is actually the song Baby Got Back by Sir Mix-a-Lot
You mean it's not by Richard Cheese (http://www.richardcheese.com/)?
I stand corrected Eddie Murphy is only the singer of that song...
The other is my favorite but I never get the artists right... :cry Wait You are right but the Lord of Acid also made a song for the book.
*goes back to chanting while doing exercises intended to increase her breast size**
"I must I must I must increase my bust"
:mowhappy
PBH
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on January 27, 2007, 09:35:00 AM
I know a few girls whose breast size actual change a size or 1 1/2 size over a month... And It is not true that smaller breast product more milk, it varys by individual. My cousin had DD size and had five children, her crest grew with each child, and she was told to breastfeed to reduce their size. By her last pregnancy, her cup had reach a "N" cup, and she had to be reduced to a H cup. On the other side of the scale, a friend had only small B and grew to a DD cup for her child, but she had to eat constantly to breastfeed and she still need to fall back on formula for her 9lb son. And she return to her old size of B after weening her son.
Well, of -course- it varies by individual.
I should point out, also, that I was ignoring -other- factors involved in increasing breast size. Like, say, body weight (more children == less time to go to the gym, plus older body, which means more likely to put a little on, which increases bust size as well) or genetics (if your mother or grandmothers had large busts, you're likely to as well - although that may skip a generation or two, eg my sister and her great grandmother are/were like in build, whereas my mother and grandmother and somewhat different. Also genetically speaking, there may be a tendency for bust size to increase over the course of your life. Or not.)
Your cousin has my sympathy, BTW. (as well as my attention. :) ) Larger bust sizes tend to attract back problems, as well. :-/
in my opinion, there -is- a sensible limit, though... If I had bigger hands, it'd be a larger limit, of course... :-)
Oh, and TGH? No offence was taken. In fact, I didn't even think of it. You're not attracted to women - we all know that. :-) And, as you say, tastes differ.
I will clear up a few things my cousin, over the course of her family making years has work out at the gym and still gain around 30-40lbs.. Her waist size only increase about 3 inch for her first two and stay the same afterwards. Her hip gain about a inch to every three her breast did. I think my cousins grandmother on her dad side had the same problem. My cousin is weird thru. She said she had gotten so use to her chest, that she only want to reduce her size to upper limit that the doctor adviced. She said regular work-outs keeps her pain free. She still need custom bras thru.
To breastfeeding, 90-95% of women can and should breastfeed. Mother and baby for the most part taylor make themselves to each others needs as the child grows. It is society that seems to frown on this active, which can improve the overall health of our children and increase intelligence. We can't have that. We would put the doctors and drug companies out of profits...and they would get too smart for the politicians
:mowcookie
PBH
Pretty much anyone above a E, or, in some cases, a DD, needs a custom bra - but this is simply because the companies that make bras can't be bothered making them larger than DD.
If you have a look at Wapsi Square, they have a link to a support group for women of larger bust sizes. I haven't been there, but the comments I've seen about it seem positive.
And yeah - as has been noted, people differ. So there's no reason she shouldn't be fine. And, as PBH says, kids and mothers tend to adjust to each other. My own son decided he didn't want to be breastfed fairly early, his friend (born 10 days after him) was still feeding 2 years later...
*shrug* It's Just One Of Those Things. :-)
life is rarely constant and often hard to understand. people will make choices that non of us understand and in the end they are just being them.
Quote from: superluser on January 25, 2007, 10:25:13 PM
If SAIA doesn't harbor an extension of Fa'Lina's essence and we take Fa'Lina's statement at face value, then that makes Fa'Lina a super-munchkin, even for the Quest-giving guy.
What she said was that the had complete insight and power, not that she had complete insight and power over SAIA, although that would still make her a munchkin, albeit in the same way that Achilles was.
Ok, newbie needs explanation, what is meant by munchkin?
"super-munchkin" ???
Quote from: Density Destiny on January 28, 2007, 07:37:21 PMOk, newbie needs explanation, what is meant by munchkin?
"super-munchkin" ???
The best way to describe this is probably in the 8 Bit Theatre archives, so expect someone to ninja me.
This is a good example (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040214). RM (a munchkin) becomes a beastmaster instead of a healer because he gets more skill ranks. He's trying to get all the perks and none of the drawbacks of that class. Munchkins don't contribute to the story, they just try to be better than everyone else.
See also: Mary Sue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_sue), the Wikipedia definition of munchkin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_%28role-playing_games%29)
I never knew breastfeeding can be so cool. As I know it brestfeeding is more helping towards that child immune system to strengthing it. That I heard from some science guy on the Boob Tube.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 29, 2007, 01:20:07 PM
I never knew breastfeeding can be so cool. As I know it brestfeeding is more helping towards that child immune system to strengthing it. That I heard from some science guy on the Boob Tube.
Yeah, breastmilk helps immune systems and formula helps with growth. So it's best to have a combination of the two. And I guess breastpumps for those who don't want to sag. Or whatever it is it prevents..
steroids help with growth, too. Advocating those? :-)
More seriously, a decent, varied, appropriate diet for the mother will be, usually, sufficient to bring the breastmilk up to appropriate levels. Anything else than that is screwing about with the system as it's supposed to work...
But don't let me tell you what to do. After all, I don't even have a pair :-)
Breastpumps are there to remove the milk from the mother when the child isn't interested, with the intention of avoiding pain in the mother. Alternatively, they may be used to store milk for later use, eg when the mother is working...
When did this topic turned from spiders to Breastfeeding? :erk
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 30, 2007, 02:50:38 PM
When did this topic turned from spiders to Breastfeeding? :erk
When the miracles of nature kicked in.
Quote from: Kenji on January 30, 2007, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 30, 2007, 02:50:38 PM
When did this topic turned from spiders to Breastfeeding? :erk
When the miracles of nature kicked in.
And when Red told Scarlette he did a d*@m
Funny very Funny. Back on topic I think many spiders have different blood if it's not green all the time. Maybe I'm wrong on this statement.