Oh, Abel. What are we going to do with you?
...don't answer that...
EDIT: Year discrepancy? What year discrepancy?
Something along the lines of pouncing him and kidnapping him for fangirl/boy worship, I'm sure.
Seriously, while I didn't really feel sympathetic for Dan after his little outburst to Jyrras, he looks so absolutely adorable in the first panel that you HAVE to have to feel a little sorry for him.
...Just a little sorry.
Maybe.
I can't WAIT to see Abel's response to Dan's little problem, though, if Dan ends up telling him in the first place. As we've learned before, Abel isn't exactly the best sympathetic ear.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
I personally like Abel's view towards it. it kinda says to me "Accept it and move on."
Why am I not surpized
Hey, there's already a thread started. And it's 2007 (okay, you fixed that)
At this point, Jyrras is probablly going to avoid the main room (to stay away from "Alexi"), but will he be looking for Dan now? I could see him walking in and being like "Dan, I...Abel?!...*faint*" Or maybe he'd be angry enough to not have a heart-attack.
I wonder...
How about we send Amber emails that have a subject of "spam spam spam spam spam DMFA spam spam spam" ?
... or would that be spitting into the wind? :-)
I think she'd realize it's so crazy a subject that it couldn't possibly be from anyone but a forum member. :)
It's people like Abel that make want to take up berating others.
::Whaps able with his palm on the back of his head::
"No, bad Abel, you console the depressed, not mock them."
Yay for shifting focus!
And yay for off-model Dan in the first panel! Could we make that the new model?
Should we start making odds for whether/when Abel will read Dan's mind?
Another thought occurs. We were concerned that Merlitz's old party might run into Alexsi when she returns, but what if Jyrras runs into Alexsi? Two possibilities:
1.) Jyrras runs off and seeks Dan's protection
2.) Jyrras lights into Alexsi, who quickly figures it out and gives Dan something pure and simple, like a hammer to the forebrain.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 02, 2007, 09:38:11 PMHow about we send Amber emails that have a subject of "spam spam spam spam spam DMFA spam spam spam" ?
DMFA's off. (and no, you can't just have spam instead)
I don't think that Dan will tell what his problem is in specifics, at least not that easy. Expecially since it includes insulting Abel. However thats funny how Abel responded to that :wiggle
Quote from: Manawolf on January 02, 2007, 09:40:56 PM
"No, bad Abel, you console the depressed, not mock them."
But mocking them is so much more fun :dface
"Who do you think you are, Kevin Featherline? Don't be a ******bag!"
since when did Dan get those bracers he's wearing?
new fashion accessory, it's all the rage with other cubi >:3
Quote from: ??? (aka Hellcat) on January 02, 2007, 10:08:22 PMsince when did Dan get those bracers he's wearing?
They hide his headwings.
Of course, now that he knows how to hide his headwings, I...they...you win this round.
Quote from: superluser on January 02, 2007, 10:10:58 PM
Quote from: ??? (aka Hellcat) on January 02, 2007, 10:08:22 PMsince when did Dan get those bracers he's wearing?
They hide his headwings.
Of course, now that he knows how to hide his headwings, I...they...you win this round.
Not to mention someone needs a good twating :smack
OK. Serious, now. The last time we saw Dan with a bracer was 492. There he was wearing only one. When's the last time we saw him wearing two? Still looking.
Anyways, he didn't bother putting them on the day of his return from SAIA, and the next day (i.e. today) he was wearing the green outfit, which might not go well with the bracers. Now he's back in the robe, and the bracers are in.
Alternately, now that he's had his talk with Jyrras, he feels bad, so he's putting on the bracers as a reminder of the trouble he's caused his friend, and to remind him that he has to make it right.
Must we nitpick this aspect. Dress how you want, as long as you provide proper coverage.
:lol
The green outfit Dan was wearing at the start of the arch was most likely formal wear.
odd how daniel reminds me of ranma lately..
HA! That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you deal with depression. Kind words make one feel better, but a handful of insults, some common sense and perhaps a kick in the rear get results, on the basis that one remembers them longer. Quite clever indeed.
Or this could just be Abel acting in his usual Devinlike manner. Think that might have something to do with Devin's mind being the first one he ever read?
QuoteWell I could be wrong, but according to some sources I'm a jackass!
If the result your looking for is suicide.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 02, 2007, 10:48:37 PM
If the result your looking for is suicide.
Different people handle things different ways. Sometimes what someone needs is someone to tell them to get over themselves, not simply let them sink further and further into moping.
It's a gradual process. While I prefer bluntness, some things must be handled with care as you pull them out of the hole they have dug.
I think as a Cubi, Abel's just sick of Emo.
There's too much and it ain't tasty. And if Dan goes too long with it, he'll tell him "it's down the road, not across the street."
If you think "all cubi" display of emoting of peoples problems..and you be a d***ed jacka%$...Course theres no better to display your emontions on the front desk is but to tell Dr. Rewanz >:3
Quote from: Manawolf on January 02, 2007, 10:53:35 PM
It's a gradual process. While I prefer bluntness, some things must be handled with care as you pull them out of the hole they have dug.
what of the individuals that dig their own trench, and then refuse to see the truth no mater how often you reveal it to them?
Unfortunate souls who would rather wallow in their misery than to try and get back on their feet. While it takes effort to actually recover, it is worth it in the long run. Time marches on, and so must everything that it affects.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 02, 2007, 09:38:11 PM
I wonder...
How about we send Amber emails that have a subject of "spam spam spam spam spam DMFA spam spam spam" ?
... or would that be spitting into the wind? :-)
Or how about "spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam and spam"? :D :D
Yes, yes, Monty Python references abound! :mowcookie
I knew it! It's the "Pyroduck is actually a Banana"-theory come back to haunt us!
(in relation to this months donation counter.)
And as for the strip, mopey mcmopemope needs a big hug, or p0rn. I'm not sure which.
Let's compromise. Sensual cuddling pron.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 03, 2007, 12:47:42 AM
Let's compromise. Sensual cuddling pron.
you remember the last couple or so times "pron" was mentioned around amber, right? >:3
It seems another of her "cuddling" pieces was brought to my attention recently. Suffice to say, I'm not sure why fur was only growing along the female's spinal region.
Probably cause that was the way my friend designed the characters.
Why is porn the topic yet I have no idea what you're referring to? Unacceptable.
Eh, I did a couple pictures for Longtail at http://www.longtail.us/ , one of them being in the risque category. I wouldn't consider it a cuddling pic myself, but whatever makes people happy.
Boring.
Bring out the REAL porn.
Quote from: Netami on January 03, 2007, 03:04:59 AM
Boring.
Bring out the REAL porn.
She wont do good porn unless Optimus Prime runs her head over :U
Not really a cuddle as more of a fondle, but hey, what works.
Quote from: Zedd on January 03, 2007, 04:02:53 AM
She wont do good porn unless Optimus Prime runs her head over :U
Hmm. Is that a request? :-)+)
This should be interesting to see what will happen.
Oh, I have to give Amber props for the MST3K:TM reference on the main page. FTW, Amber! :mowhappy
it seems the new year everybody's trying something new with their works..
should be rather interesting to see.
Whooo, nothing went wrong!
Well. Mostly nothing.
You do know the next panel is going to have adventurers bursting in at the end of it, don't you?
A hundred euros on the horse being the one knocking down the door! And yes, I know Am is just going to read this and have Nitemyste simply opening it and walking in and stating something mildly sarcastic instead to prove me wrong... (or, more probably, because that's how she does things. And it will be the Lioness, not Nite).
Nnnnnobody expects the Adventurers... their chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear. fear and surprise. their two weapons fear and surprise and ruthless...
wait... what were we talking about again?
Quote from: King Of Hearts on January 03, 2007, 10:14:46 AM
Nnnnnobody expects the Adventurers... their chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear. fear and surprise. their two weapons fear and surprise and ruthless...
wait... what were we talking about again?
Jury duty notices.
*wearing a tux and hair combed nicely* And the Awarding to the biggest a@$hole out there of tonights panels in the DMFA 07' awards....The contenders are....Abel Rewanz,Devin J. Mernstar,Wildy Sans and of course our headmisstress Fa'Lina *devilsh smirk showing my fangs and cue canned laughter and drum rolling and a stage hand gives me the golden evelope and stands with speaking with Jack at same at time* And the winner is....Abel Rewanz! *the crowd hollers and cheers*
No damnit, it's Dan! This award show is RIGGED!! Everyone kill the cubi! *arms himself with a torch and pitchfork*
Quote from: ??? (aka Hellcat) on January 02, 2007, 10:08:22 PM
since when did Dan get those bracers he's wearing?
It's probably just a slight wardrobe modification, nothing more, nothing less.
Now I feel slightly stupid for not noticing them in the first place. For shame, Keaton, for shaaaaame.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Abel managed to make Dan no longer depressed at himself, and kept his reputation in check at the same time! Though the depression has been replaced by anger...
I applaud Abel for breaking Dan out of depression at the expense of his own well-being. :mwaha I wonder who will do more of the injuring: Dan, or Dan's tentacle-drakes?
Quote from: Alan Garou on January 03, 2007, 03:14:26 PM
I applaud Abel for breaking Dan out of depression at the expense of his own well-being. :mwaha I wonder who will do more of the injuring: Dan, or Dan's tentacle-drakes?
Dan's clumsiness. How often does Dan ever get the good end of the stick?
Quote from: FireKatKid on January 03, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on January 03, 2007, 03:14:26 PM
I applaud Abel for breaking Dan out of depression at the expense of his own well-being. :mwaha I wonder who will do more of the injuring: Dan, or Dan's tentacle-drakes?
Dan's clumsiness. How often does Dan ever get the good end of the stick?
...when nothing went wrong at the interview?
Quote from: Kibin on January 03, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on January 03, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on January 03, 2007, 03:14:26 PM
I applaud Abel for breaking Dan out of depression at the expense of his own well-being. :mwaha I wonder who will do more of the injuring: Dan, or Dan's tentacle-drakes?
Dan's clumsiness. How often does Dan ever get the good end of the stick?
...when nothing went wrong at the interview?
Oh, I mean in an argument or battle. And yeah, he beat DP, but he still got his butt kicked too. >.>
Quote from: FireKatKid on January 03, 2007, 03:57:38 PM
Quote from: Kibin on January 03, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on January 03, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on January 03, 2007, 03:14:26 PM
I applaud Abel for breaking Dan out of depression at the expense of his own well-being. :mwaha I wonder who will do more of the injuring: Dan, or Dan's tentacle-drakes?
Dan's clumsiness. How often does Dan ever get the good end of the stick?
...when nothing went wrong at the interview?
Oh, I mean in an argument or battle. And yeah, he beat DP, but he still got his butt kicked too. >.>
The only way DP will come back is from being a zombie and being someones gay lover >:3
Quote from: Stygian on January 03, 2007, 09:31:13 AMYou do know the next panel is going to have adventurers bursting in at the end of it, don't you?
Maybe. I'm betting (the ISO standard bet of one Coke; 100 Euro is too rich for my blood) that there will be at least one more strip between today's and the one when (if) Merlitz's old party return to LL. Too many opportunities for another Abel zinger.
As to why the party might not return to LL, I think that they might be on an information-gathering mission for the dragons, and have been given a ``do not engage under any conditions'' order. The dragons are probably expecting Destania-class `cubi at LL, and
1.) It would be suicide for Being adventurers to take one on
2.) It would eliminate any element of surprise for the Dragon assault
3.) It would explain Pegasus' comment about it not being a real adventure.
Quote from: Zedd on January 03, 2007, 12:35:45 PMWildy Sans
OK. I want someone to actually make this font.
Quote from: Zedd on January 03, 2007, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on January 03, 2007, 03:57:38 PM
Quote from: Kibin on January 03, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on January 03, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on January 03, 2007, 03:14:26 PM
I applaud Abel for breaking Dan out of depression at the expense of his own well-being. :mwaha I wonder who will do more of the injuring: Dan, or Dan's tentacle-drakes?
Dan's clumsiness. How often does Dan ever get the good end of the stick?
...when nothing went wrong at the interview?
Oh, I mean in an argument or battle. And yeah, he beat DP, but he still got his butt kicked too. >.>
The only way DP will come back is from being a zombie and being someones gay lover >:3
One and a half pages to complete topic breakdown. Amazing. And I smell a quote tree.
Quote from: superluser on January 03, 2007, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: Zedd on January 03, 2007, 12:35:45 PMWildy Sans
OK. I want someone to actually make this font.
What exactly do you want to see Wildy without, as she's contorted into the shapes of various letters?
Quote from: terrycloth on January 03, 2007, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: superluser on January 03, 2007, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: Zedd on January 03, 2007, 12:35:45 PMWildy Sans
OK. I want someone to actually make this font.
What exactly do you want to see Wildy without, as she's contorted into the shapes of various letters?
Anything, perhaps?
Quote from: terrycloth on January 03, 2007, 04:48:14 PMWhat exactly do you want to see Wildy without, as she's contorted into the shapes of various letters?
Serifs, mainly.
Enough with the quote pyramids! Jeeze, just hit the reply button for once in your lives.
Learn to choose your battles, dude. Quote trees/pyramids should be very low on the list of things that bug you about a forum.
This forum just seems prone to battle, and everyone is against me on everything else. Sometimes you just have to aim low to get in a shot.
Doesn't seem worth it to me. People aren't going to change anything they do unless an administrator steps in.
It's still a suggestion, because the practice is annoying and horribly redundant.
... as is complaining about it...
This is one of the more boring arguments that I've seen.
I at least try, and trying is the first step to developing good habits.
Honestly people, just try to stop with the quote pyramids, and get on with our lives.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 03, 2007, 05:53:23 PM
It's still a suggestion, because the practice is annoying and horribly redundant.
It's stupid not to quote the thing you're directly replying to, when multiple threads are going on at the same time.
Just edit your quote so that you don't have a huge pyramid, but you still keep the context that makes what you're saying make sense.
Yes, one may quote normally, but don't keep building the pyramid when the post is right after the last one on the subject.
This is a point of internet etiquette. Unless the administrators have a rule about huge, unnecessary quotings, people don't have to adhere to the idea of relative-politeness. No amount of lone-gunman, trying-to-change-the-rules-yourself mannerisms are going to work.
Less line breaks in every box. That's all I ask.
*pulls hard on the lever to move the track switch* Ungh!
Ok, lets move the train riiiight back over there. I'm pretty sure that the topic is that-a-way! ^^
So, what will Abel do once Dan tells him of his idiocy?
(and Amber, you still rule for the love of MST3K. :mowmeep )
Quote from: Nerikull on January 03, 2007, 06:58:04 PM
So, what will Abel do once Dan tells him of his idiocy?
Or that Dan thinks Abel is evil and doesn't trust him? I think Abel already knows that, mind so the big question is: what will Abel do when he finds out that Jyrras is gay for
him?
I don't think he knows, since he slammed the door in Jy's face before he could work out what's going on. Perhaps the solution is to send Abel to Jy's place and explain everything
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 03, 2007, 07:01:11 PM
Perhaps the solution is to send Abel to Jy's place and explain everything.
Hmm, methinks that still has a high chance of not ending well.
Jyrras may not want Abel to know he's attracted to him until he works this stuff out. Dan might not tell Abel what's going on in order to respect what he thinks Jyrras' wishes may be about this.
"Jyrras, I'm flattered and everything, but..."
"What, you can't possibly expect me to believe that you're not gay. Not without... scientific testing, anyway."
"...but I'm now required by the laws of my people to devour your soul."
Love can be fickle, but a person must learn that their can be only one true love in their life. You can't have it all, and Jyrras will have to choose at some point. Of course, he must also realize that the one he loves must also love him in return, it'll never work one way.
And I know the rest of you keep going on about Abel because he simply hasn't specified his sexual preference yet. Love is not something to be taken lightly, and Jyrras' little mind think that anyone who is a close friend also qualifies as a lover, but that's simply isn't so.
I know of people that live with numerous lovers. Not sexual items, either. I'm talking about people that comfortable with more than one true love.
Prenotions are not your friend in the world of Furrae.
Netami has a point. Hell, my ex was like that. However, it's not particularly likely in any case. And while he has to choose at some point, if he chooses either of them instead of just meeting someone else, rushing the choice is only asking for trouble.
Quote from: Caswin on January 03, 2007, 06:45:06 PM
Less line breaks in every box. That's all I ask.
... but I'm -full- of line breaks....
I for one prefer 'quote ziggurats'.
Quote from: Tikki on January 03, 2007, 08:27:55 PM
I for one prefer 'quote ziggurats'.
A neccesity for the production of more quote-undead units.
Quote from: Boogeyman on January 03, 2007, 08:21:17 PM
rushing the choice is only asking for trouble.
Right! He should experiment with each of them, separately and in combination, until he finds out what precise ratio of affection gives him the maximum possible fulfillment. Or the most powerful horde of demonic young.
And don't tell me he couldn't have kids with Abel or Dan, he's had two (or three) without *anyone* else being involved.
Multiple lovers has a greater risk of jealousy forming. It's like trying have the whole pie, some people are going to be against it. For things to be fair, you must simply carve out your own slice.
And Jyrras can't screw the rules, even if he does have money.
And of course we can't rush it, otherwise we end up with another Pyroduck/Fa'Lina incident.
I don't think you understand. Some people can get along perfectly fine with multiple partners. What is jealousy but the exception of something? If you sit down and talk to your lover(s) about things that can happen in a relationship and "be cool" with all of it, there's no problems along the way.
For example: most people don't mind the sexual part of cheating so much as the part where their wife/husband thought better than to tell them about how they felt.
Yes, but these some aren't all that commonplace. At least I don't think so.
Well, they aren't. Maybe they should be, but that was never my point.
My point is to keep your mind open and free of prenotions regarding this comic. People thought for the longest time that the timeline reflected our own. That Abel's Story, for example, took place in a medieval period of time, whereas DMFA is "our time." Pop culture and 80's references aside, that is simply not true. So don't label your relationship things to a comic where relationship fastballs can be a staple diet for humor.
Quote from: Netami on January 03, 2007, 08:07:34 PMPrenotions are not your friend in the world of Furrae.
Yeah, you could make a case for that.
That said, I look forward to killing you soon. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_341.php)
And I tell you again, some of the partners may not share that kind of love. Dan's the longshot here, since he has shown a definite love for the ladies (then again you people may start thinking he could go bi), Abel's up in the air due to the fans and no answer on the subject, and Lorenda is the only one who Jyrras has actually shared some close kept secrets with (barring actually professing his love to her). Jyrras is a socially meak individual, and so he is in a confusing time for him.
You people talk about a world where everyone treats each other equal and are very willing to express their feelings. While that would be a beautiful world, it's not one that will happen anytime soon.
On a side note, Abel may blow Jyrras off due to the fact that he already has two kids. Men aren't looking to get tied down so quickly with that kind of stuff.
I'm not saying it just happens right away. It'd take communication and commitment. I don't expect them to just "be" in a 3-way relationship and have it work. They'd have to talk and voice their opinions, which seems to be majorly lacking in this comic arc, and probably the focal point of the whole Jyrras emo drama right now.
Personally I think that Amber wouldn't even have a gay relationship in her comic, just to try to appeal to a norm. I'm not saying it's true, in fact it's sort of a silly thing to assume at this point in time. That's where my anti-prenotion spiel comes in.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 03, 2007, 09:59:05 PMAbel's up in the air due to the fans
To be fair, well... I generally assume males to be straight until given explicit evidence to the contrary. I rarely speculate that way. But I placed him as "probably gay" almost on sight.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 03, 2007, 09:59:05 PMDan's the longshot here
What happened to all the Jyrras/Kria support?
Another part of a multi relationship is that all the people in it have to like one another. This is not happening soon if ever between Dan and Abel. Lorenda is a bit more willing, being the half-breed and thus knows how it is to be on one side of the track or the other, and thus doesn't discredit others just because of their race.
Kria is not in this triangle. That would only end in blood. I'd say not even longshot, but a chance in hell, becaus Kria's already a demon.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 03, 2007, 07:01:11 PMwhat will Abel do when he finds out that Jyrras is gay for him?
I don't think he knows, since he slammed the door in Jy's face before he could work out what's going on. Perhaps the solution is to send Abel to Jy's place and explain everything
I gotta agree with the ``doesn't know'' theory. Abel would probably either have been less abrasive or would have confronted him about it. In any case, I think the ``fluff tuft'' comment would be right out, unless he's trying to get Jyrras.
And even if Abel's gay, Jyrras doesn't strike me as his type. Jyrras is a stoic, while Abel is a firm believer in emotional openness. While the dichotomy might be fun, it seems less likely to actually be the basis for a relationship.
As for sending Abel over to explain it all, I don't think that would work. First off, as I've said before, I think that catharsis is the best remedy here, and if Abel explains it all, Jyrras loses the opportunity for catharsis. But that's if I were writing the strip, not Amber.
Two, I think that Abel is an insufficient surrogate for Dan. Jyrras can't ask Abel about Dan's opinions, because Jyrras can't trust Abel to tell the truth here. Even if he does trust Abel, he cannot afford to trust him here. Even further, I suspect that Abel would say something like, ``He's right not to trust me; you shouldn't either,'' which Jyrras should recognize as the opposite of a tautology.
Jyrras can't ask Abel to explain the reasons behind Dan's feelings, and Abel can't explain what Dan's feelings of friendship are.
Unless Abel reads Dan's mind, and that's probably right out for now, since as soon as Abel does that, he's gonna find out about Jyrras, and Jyrras is probably going to be in the room when that happens, for maximum trauma.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 03, 2007, 09:59:05 PMYou people talk about a world where everyone treats each other equal and are very willing to express their feelings. While that would be a beautiful world, it's not one that will happen anytime soon.
Except in fiction. Which is what DMFA is.
Quote from: terrycloth on January 03, 2007, 07:54:00 PM"...but I'm now required by the laws of my people to devour your soul."
Wait until Abel remembers what the procedure for devouring souls entails... :mwaha
I just noticed Dan's nose seems bigger than usual...is this intentional?
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on January 03, 2007, 11:03:14 PMI just noticed Dan's nose seems bigger than usual...is this intentional?
That's your eyes playing tricks on you. Dan's nose is ~13px wide in panel 1, while his face is ~52px wide. That's a factor of 4 Compare 683 (chosen because it's a recent similar pose), where his nose is ~10px wide, and his face is ~43px wide, a factor of 4.3, not too much different (7.5%).
In panel 3, his nose is ~11px deep, while his head is ~65px deep (5.9). Compare 678, where his nose is ~18px deep, and his head is ~99px deep (5.5). That's larger (by 7.3%) than today's.
On the other hand, I suspect what you're referring to is the following:
Dan's eyes are ~13px apart today (measuring from the bottom inside corners). In 683, they were also ~13px apart. In today's strip, that's a ratio of 3.9. In 683, that's 3.3. That's a difference of 18%.
That's what I was saying before about Dan being off-model. His eyes are closer set than usual.
Furthermore, I like this new model, and would like to see more of it. Predators (like lions, wolves, man) have eyes in the front of their heads to track what they're hunting. Prey (like cows, deer, sheep) have eyes on the sides of their heads to scan the area for predators. I could read more into that, but I just think it makes Dan look cute.
Quote from: superluser on January 03, 2007, 11:35:30 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on January 03, 2007, 11:03:14 PMI just noticed Dan's nose seems bigger than usual...is this intentional?
That's your eyes playing tricks on you. Dan's nose is ~13px wide in panel 1, while his face is ~52px wide. That's a factor of 4 Compare 683 (chosen because it's a recent similar pose), where his nose is ~10px wide, and his face is ~43px wide, a factor of 4.3, not too much different (7.5%).
In panel 3, his nose is ~11px deep, while his head is ~65px deep (5.9). Compare 678, where his nose is ~18px deep, and his head is ~99px deep (5.5). That's larger (by 7.3%) than today's.
On the other hand, I suspect what you're referring to is the following:
Dan's eyes are ~13px apart today (measuring from the bottom inside corners). In 683, they were also ~13px apart. In today's strip, that's a ratio of 3.9. In 683, that's 3.3. That's a difference of 18%.
That's what I was saying before about Dan being off-model. His eyes are closer set than usual.
Furthermore, I like this new model, and would like to see more of it. Predators (like lions, wolves, man) have eyes in the front of their heads to track what they're hunting. Prey (like cows, deer, sheep) have eyes on the sides of their heads to scan the area for predators. I could read more into that, but I just think it makes Dan look cute.
....YOU THINK TOO MUCH!
*whacks with a mallet*
Oh, and I'm not sure if many of you are old enough to appreciate this, but...
Very, very nice reference to Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie in the title bar.
I've sung that a few times myself.
Quote from: Valynth on January 04, 2007, 02:39:44 AM....YOU THINK TOO MUCH!
I think not (http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88old/descartes.18.html).
There are at least two aspects of this series. The words and the images. Amber could just post the new strips in screenplay format, but I think that most people would miss the art. I know I would. So I think it's fair to talk about what makes the art so great.
And if it's valid to talk about what makes the art great, I think it's valid to talk about changes in the art, especially if the changes are likely to affect the audience's opinion of the art.
P.S. We need to talk about getting Destania's glasses back.
P.P.S. All post-Joel MST3K is travesty. Attack of the the Eye Creatures FTW!
Right now knowing Dan he will tell Abel about Jyrass and Abel has to talk to him. This is going be tough on both of them knowing Abel he will tell Jyrass he's flattered but he's doesn't have the same feelings for him as Jyrass as for Abel. This is probably the best solution i come out so far. Let's wait for the next strip and see what develops.
Quote from: terrycloth on January 03, 2007, 08:35:56 PM
And don't tell me he couldn't have kids with Abel or Dan, he's had two (or three) without *anyone* else being involved.
And besides, what about patches? Jyrras could give one of them a gender-swap patch. Or are the patches merely appearance-altering?
Dan's Mow transformation would suggest that the patches are quite thorough in the change they induce. However, considering that they incorporate magic in their design and function, and considering what Amber has already said on gender-bending magic in Furrae, I expect that the change would be simply physical, but not essential, if you catch my drift...
Quote from: superluser on January 04, 2007, 05:32:09 AM
I think not (http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88old/descartes.18.html).
There are at least two aspects of this series. The words and the images. Amber could just post the new strips in screenplay format, but I think that most people would miss the art. I know I would. So I think it's fair to talk about what makes the art so great.
And if it's valid to talk about what makes the art great, I think it's valid to talk about changes in the art, especially if the changes are likely to affect the audience's opinion of the art.
The way you posted it looked like you were trying to quantify the abstract process of drawn art, which by definition is reliant specifically on the artist's view point.
Trying to translate abstract concepts to physical dimensions will not always work. Take for instance, the idea of maturity. If everyone in the world suddenly became mature at age 21, there would be no alcoholism and rednecks would cease to exist.
As such, please don't explain the abstract process of drawn art using the logic of dimensions, especially when said drawings show process that would NOT be possible in a logical system.
Oh god... People are saying smart things.
Quote from: superluser on January 03, 2007, 10:37:08 PM
Wait until Abel remembers what the procedure for devouring souls entails... :mwaha
So
that's why death by Shonen Ai was on the wheel...
Jyrras is really a cubi?! :U
....Should I bother pointing out just how nearly impossible that plot twist would be to pull off?
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 04, 2007, 07:21:41 AMRight now knowing Dan he will tell Abel about Jyrass and Abel has to talk to him.
Knowing Dan, he'd never divulge that information willingly, since he thinks it's something that Jyrras wouldn't want Abel to know, and he's got enough guilt about wronging Jyrras right now. Also, Abel doesn't seem like the type to admit being flattered.
Quote from: Valynth on January 04, 2007, 01:39:14 PMThe way you posted it looked like you were trying to quantify the abstract process of drawn art, which by definition is reliant specifically on the artist's view point.
I'm not trying to quantify the process of drawn art, nor do I have any desire to do so. Somebody just said that Dan's nose was bigger, and I said that it was an illusion, and provided evidence that that was the case.
As to art being reliant on the artist's view point, there is some truth to that, but it depends on the art. Mondrian (http://static.flickr.com/58/171485183_0303b4582e_m.jpg) and Picasso (http://static.flickr.com/47/131909335_c3571322af_m.jpg) have art that is highly dependent on the artist's view point, but at the other end of the spectrum, we have the Vitruvian Man (http://blogs.epicindia.com/bhagavatam/images/vitruvian-man.jpg) (warning: Vitruvian Man is as naked as Leonardo da Vinci drew him), which is designed to be independent of the artist's view point.
While things like proportions are less important in more abstract art like that of Paul Klee, we have come to expect greater consistency in representational art, a point driven home by John Kricfalusi's episode of Yogi Bear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iszAifLDJWc). Such consistency is common in most sequential art.
I really didn't want to get all technical about this stuff. When I first mentioned it, I didn't mention the exact proportions, because I didm't want to get into the niggling technical details.
Now, if Amber wanted to change the style of DMFA to an abstract art style, I'd be all for it. I love abstract art. And as I've said before, I like the way she drew Dan in panel 1.
The art form itself is dependant on the artist, therefore anything resulting from the art form is still dependant on the view point of the artist.
Quote from: superluser on January 04, 2007, 04:49:05 PM
As to art being reliant on the artist's view point, there is some truth to that, but it depends on the art. Mondrian (http://static.flickr.com/58/171485183_0303b4582e_m.jpg) and Picasso (http://static.flickr.com/47/131909335_c3571322af_m.jpg) have art that is highly dependent on the artist's view point, but at the other end of the spectrum, we have the Vitruvian Man (http://blogs.epicindia.com/bhagavatam/images/vitruvian-man.jpg) (warning: Vitruvian Man is as naked as Leonardo da Vinci drew him), which is designed to be independent of the artist's view point.
There's a different terminology for those like "diagrams" or "blueprints" (da Vinci's Vitruvian Man was designed specifically to show what dimensions people should strive to achieve to be in line with the rest of the universe.), but they are indeed a form of art based on logic and scientific reason. My point is that this comic is based on humor which may or may not coincide with logic and reason dependant on the Amber's views.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 03, 2007, 10:20:03 PMKria is not in this triangle. That would only end in blood. I'd say not even longshot, but a chance in hell, becaus Kria's already a demon.
See? Logic
does have a place in love. :p
Well it's up to Abel to tell Jyrass how he feels about him.