Yes, Devin isn't dead! =D
...yet O_o;;
To accidentally read the mind of someone who is just dying...
This is so no funny! :cry
/me prays
I'll see what happens, in the future. :B
I have no need to speculate. >:3
Etheir something i ate or...Something is happening..
YAY! Devin alive, hope he stay that way.
He's an good char to get wasted.
Well, given a shoulder hit (if it is, rather than a dead-center hit, which would probably be why he can't breathe if it was - dead center probably would have done something nasty to the lungs and such) he's probably still alive. But I'd say he's going into shock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock) pretty quick and there probably isn't much time left to save him from handing in the dinner pail, as it were.
Wow...talk about a person's final thoughts, huh? I have the feeling that this is going to weigh on Abel's mind for a while.
and can Abel pull himself together for long enough to at least try to help?.. after all devin's got blood on him, too..
Hope Abel be able to help Devin.
Wouldn't be nice see he just sit there and watch as life pass away from Devin.
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
Yerg. o_o;;
I can't quite make out what's said at the bottom of the last panel though, any help?
I can't read the text in the corner of the last panel... must be something secret.
Looks like:
"I ganclere in them.....
Luc_cait ..ove__"
The last two words are 'can't move...'. Can't make anything else out, though.
Amber sure made it tricky for us this time
the last line says "we can't love" ... i think.
there's two lines of text..
"...puncture in chest...we can't move..."
Who says its thoughts that he's hearing? I have no idea what reanimation feels like or how long it takes but this could be the start of the undead race. (or at least a increase to their numbers)
That kind of fits with the the "can't breath" and "It hurts" voices, I would expect 'so cold' to be heard as well soon, maybe with a little a little screaming as some of them realise whats going on.
Damn thats a creepy thought. Of course being stuck somewhere with a head full of dying peoples thoughts is pretty nasty as well but at least they won't come up to you looking for their loved ones/legs.
My first thought was, "Abel hears dead people," but I guess technically he's just reading the mind of a dying person. That's not as funny, though :<
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
Hope Abel be able to help Devin.
Wouldn't be nice see he just sit there and watch as life pass away from Devin.
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
He's got a hole in his
chest man!
Abel's a librarian, not a miracle worker!
One other note: Why did the attacks stop anyway? Why isn't Glory doing anything?
Though the obvious reason would be that Glory managed to get up tower and is seeing to the fiend directly, but when were obvious things right. :o
Quote from: Sheridan on December 30, 2006, 05:58:52 AM
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
Hope Abel be able to help Devin.
Wouldn't be nice see he just sit there and watch as life pass away from Devin.
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
He's got a hole in his chest man!
Abel's a librarian, not a miracle worker!
"fer god's sake's jim, i'm a coward, not a paramedic!" >:3
First though: Woa, hes still alive! :boogie
Second thought: Wait a sec, this oddly reminds me of the Iron-Jack death scene in SinCity.... :mowsad
:scaredkitty :bunnycry
I bet Amber made that hard to read on purpose, even if it has no greater importance, just to tease this speculation loving forum. :shifty
Quote from: MT Hazard on December 30, 2006, 05:50:56 AM
Who says its thoughts that he's hearing? I have no idea what reanimation feels like or how long it takes but this could be the start of the undead race. (or at least a increase to their numbers)
That kind of fits with the the "can't breath" and "It hurts" voices, I would expect 'so cold' to be heard as well soon, maybe with a little a little screaming as some of them realise whats going on.
Damn thats a creepy thought. Of course being stuck somewhere with a head full of dying peoples thoughts is pretty nasty as well but at least they won't come up to you looking for their loved ones/legs.
usually it takes longer than a few second for someone to die :x
Quote from: Sheridan on December 30, 2006, 05:58:52 AM
He's got a hole in his chest man!
Abel's a librarian, not a miracle worker!
He did learn magic didn't he? Ok, don't know which one though :U
Quote from: ITOS on December 30, 2006, 07:23:08 AM
I bet Amber made that hard to read on purpose, even if it has no greater importance, just to tease this speculation loving forum. :shifty
i can identify with her on this.. xD
I don't believe that Amber made the last bit of text hard to read intentionally. I think that she is working at such a higher resolution that it gets more garbled than she would like when she shrinks it for the web.
Abel does know some magic. He may know some healing magic. Glory might come back and start healing Devin.
Lets see what happens next.
I feel sorry for Devin... I serously doubt that Abel will be in his right mind and therefore be able to properly perform magic.
With luck the wound will be cauterized and there will be little blood so that if Abel knows any healing magic he will be able to perform it.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 30, 2006, 06:42:23 AM
One other note: Why did the attacks stop anyway? Why isn't Glory doing anything?
Though the obvious reason would be that Glory managed to get up tower and is seeing to the fiend directly, but when were obvious things right. :o
Yeah, it is the obvious thing, but I think it is the right one.
It would make sense if the story will go into two directions:
a) Glory finished the attacker off and returns to find a cubi and a recently killed comrade-in-arms. This could be bad for Abel if this is all Glory sees.
b) Glory fails in her attack. The attacker believes there is nobody left alive and doesn't look for Abel. Or finds Abel.
I guess the negative outcomes for Abel far outnumber the good ones. The only good we know is that Abel will eventually end up at SAIA, and the reason could be both Glory or the attacker (ironically) or a just-in-time arrival of a third party. (Warp-Aci from SAIA)
Quote from: Dard on December 30, 2006, 08:04:59 AM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 30, 2006, 06:42:23 AM
One other note: Why did the attacks stop anyway? Why isn't Glory doing anything?
Though the obvious reason would be that Glory managed to get up tower and is seeing to the fiend directly, but when were obvious things right. :o
Yeah, it is the obvious thing, but I think it is the right one.
It would make sense if the story will go into two directions:
a) Glory finished the attacker off and returns to find a cubi and a recently killed comrade-in-arms. This could be bad for Abel if this is all Glory sees.
b) Glory fails in her attack. The attacker believes there is nobody left alive and doesn't look for Abel. Or finds Abel.
I guess the negative outcomes for Abel far outnumber the good ones. The only good we know is that Abel will eventually end up at SAIA, and the reason could be both Glory or the attacker (ironically) or a just-in-time arrival of a third party. (Warp-Aci from SAIA)
"Comrade-in-Arms?" I don't think Devin and Glory were exactly on good terms there. :P
Comrades-in-arms needn't be on good terms.
i dunno, but viewing this, then the comic on a sleep-deprived and caffinated tangent, i can't help but concoct in my mind, a stream of various "black knight" quotes from monty python and the holy grail..
and let's not forget the all immortal "it hurts and stings!"
but really, from this point, abel's path could take any multitude of paths, some good, some bad, some that others might not even suspect..
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
Hope Abel be able to help Devin.
Wouldn't be nice see he just sit there and watch as life pass away from Devin.
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
Perhaps all the people at Lost lake were thinking loud thoughts, thus giving Dan a headache, but not allowing him to be able to decipher any one line of thought. It seems like Glory might have thought far enough ahead to have a mind shield, so Devin's were the only thoughts he could read.
Also, I thought he was reading thoughts passively (at least, not trying to) in http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_562.php
Thats sad, poor Abel doesn't even understand his powers yet and they are just kinda slapping him in the face. I would guess he is reading the thoughts without realising it. And the attacks stopped because they are probably unaware of Abel since he is hiding, or perhapse Glory finished them off. Its also possable Glory has been bested and whoever they were figured vicorty, but i guess thats less likley. It sucks everyones dying around him, but it would be kinda cool if he goes all "enraged" and kills all the baddies without even knowing how.
I wanna give Abel a hug :cry
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
Devins the only one near Abel. The only mind near by, and his mind is screaming at the top of it's voice. He's in pain, can't breath and utterly terrified it makes sense that Devins mental volume is cranked up to the point where even Abels still developing cubi powers might pick them up
ps: i tried zooming in on the last words, but they just become to pixelated to read, i believe part of it is "i cant move" but thats about it.
Other than what Modelincard and TGH said:
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
I think that Cubi powers don't fire up in fixed order or timing. Amber might've said so somewhere, but I'm kinda in a hurry right now and thus can't check, so I'll just file this under "educated guess" for now. Additionally, Abel has been studying magic for a good while now, so it's hard to compare Abel and Dan in terms of progress. It's possible that mindreading just comes easier when you already have some knowledge of magic. Who knows?
edit: I am referring to the mind-reading text at the bottom of the last panel
We may not be able to discern what is it, because Able wasn't able to discern what it was. Like if you hear someone say something, but you didn't hear what they said, but you know they said something.
If this makes no sense, it is because I just got up.
Quote from: modelincard on December 30, 2006, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
Hope Abel be able to help Devin.
Wouldn't be nice see he just sit there and watch as life pass away from Devin.
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
Perhaps all the people at Lost lake were thinking loud thoughts, thus giving Dan a headache, but not allowing him to be able to decipher any one line of thought. It seems like Glory might have thought far enough ahead to have a mind shield, so Devin's were the only thoughts he could read.
Also, I thought he was reading thoughts passively (at least, not trying to) in http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_562.php
Dan's headaches were explained already: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_488.php
plus this thread's about abel, don't forget he's not good at the sight of blood, and doesn't seem to have a head for combat at all, who knows what sort of edge this's push him off of.
Holy--
Oh my God, poor Abel. Poor, poor Abel. What a way for your mind-reading abilities to manifest... I rarely really pity a character without cackling evilly, but, as much of a fantastic strip (probably one of my favorites for the emotion and how elaborately Abel's hair is drawn. It reminds me of how great Page 38 was in how excellently Abel was drawn in the first panel) and what a great source of character development this is, I'm really feeling for Abel. If he already didn't have hemophobic problems to begin with since he was a kid, I wouldn't blame him for gaining them after all this trauma.
Now there's the matter about Abel's attacker, and Glory. Can't wait for the next comic, Amber.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Sid on December 30, 2006, 10:31:17 AMAdditionally, Abel has been studying magic for a good while now, so it's hard to compare Abel and Dan in terms of progress. It's possible that mindreading just comes easier when you already have some knowledge of magic.
It's also possible that Abel has learned some mindreading spells, and that they have accelerated his development in this regard. There's also the off chance that some `cubi can't read thoughts at all. Destania, Dan, and Aary have all shown disinclination to read minds (sometimes straining credulity in the process (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_274.php)), so perhaps Abel was basing his assumptions off of his own development, which are not generalizable to the entire `cubi population.
It might be very interesting if Devin is still conscious, and hearing Abel read his thoughts, while Abel probably thinks that he's just hearing Devin speaking normally.
*Charline smiles wickedly, her wing tentacles arcing about Abel in translucent spirit form* Ah, poor little Abel. You know not what you are, nor what you can do. And now you hear in your mind the last vestiges of your friend's life as it ebbs. What else do you think you'll hear, my dear? What will he be thinking about you? You'll learn the whole truth as it echoes in your mind, every last facet of it, even the parts you won't want to hear! *she cackles with cruel glee in anticipation!*
*Charles erfs* Charline is enjoying this too much. Abel's gonna need therapy.. about 400 years of it, to be exact. :3
Quote from: thegayhare on December 30, 2006, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: Ice4s on December 30, 2006, 04:54:34 AM
But an though, abel abelity to hear what Devin thinks poped up lil suddenly, i mean, Dan now have it's head wing awhile, still can't read others mind, and also Abel him said before it take time till he be able to do that, so from this aspect this is strange
Devins the only one near Abel. The only mind near by, and his mind is screaming at the top of it's voice. He's in pain, can't breath and utterly terrified it makes sense that Devins mental volume is cranked up to the point where even Abels still developing cubi powers might pick them up
Abel is also listed as being a "natural" at picking up thoughts, to boot, so that's something worth taking into account.
Dammit. Not only is Devin dying, but Abel has to endure the torture of hearing his dying thoughts. Fate is being downright sadistic to our Abba.
Alas, Abel did go for "whimpering pool of snivel" with a generous portion of helplessness thrown in. Looks like I lost that bet. *sigh*
Though, yeah, if Abel has picked up any healing abilities in his magical studies, NOW would be a swell time to whip them out, before the little blue fluff ball kicks the bucket.
*blinks* Well, I blew it up on photoshop 300%
Does anyone wonder why it's "we can't move"?
[tr][/tr]
Quote from: HaZ×MaT on December 30, 2006, 05:15:53 AM
"...puncture in chest...we can't move..."
zoomed in on the text also (though watching the pixels close up doesnt help the letter recognition), my bet would be on hazmat`s guess. The problem there is that the highlights on abels cloth right there have a similar bright white color like the letters, adding strange lines that form weird non-existing letters. Funny thing: the last "e" from move combine with the "..." almost looks like the thoughts turning into a flatline...
Also, i dont think everybody we want to will walk away from that scene alive... theres no pg13 rating for a reason.
Maybe "We", for some reason or other refers to both Devin and Xander?
Hm. Without blowing it up or zooming in - just putting my face close to the screen - the word you say is "can't" looks like "cease" to me.... But that doesn't make sense with the other words...
...next time, Amber will/should just put something like "Lorem Ipsum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum)" at a small font-size font into a comic and take a week off, just to watch us speculate about the text until we all foam out of the mouth. ;)
Devin, unwittingly, has become the torture to Abel that he always wanted to be...
I think, we now know why Abel did not want to leave SAIA.
And Abel's mind-reading powers awaken, along with his head-wings! Yay! Now, hopefully his Cubi magic will awaken at the same time, and allow him to pull off a miracle and heal Devin from the brink of death, and annihilate whatever it was that was attacking them!
I see someone's cup is half-full.
IF THE CUP IS NOT FULL THEN YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB PROPERLY!
Did a little fiddling in photoshop. It's not crystal clear, but it is easier to see than in the original image.
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2640/untitled2np0.jpg)
Quote from: MT Hazard on December 30, 2006, 05:50:56 AM
Who says its thoughts that he's hearing? I have no idea what reanimation feels like or how long it takes but this could be the start of the undead race. (or at least a increase to their numbers)
That kind of fits with the the "can't breath" and "It hurts" voices, I would expect 'so cold' to be heard as well soon, maybe with a little a little screaming as some of them realise whats going on.
Nah, the undead race was started 34 years ago according to Demonology 101
If a fully-trained 'cubi can trap and eat souls, it also follows that 'cubi should be able to sense them, and I'd wager it's a damn sight easier if the soul has just detached from the body.
This is a theme I've been slowly weaving into my CJP story but it looks like Amber may have got there first. (That's assuming Devin's already died from shock and Abel isn't simply reading his dying mind)
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 30, 2006, 02:17:12 PM
I see someone's cup is half-full.
The cup is always full! Just sometimes with air...
The first word in the first line is "I" but I can't make out the second word... g something... doesn't look like 'guess' though. Maybe it's something like "I guess in the end we can't move?" I think though it's supposed to be smaller because it's getting harder for Abel to hear- meaning Devin is dying quickly.
He's obviously just mumbling about his love for Xander. Devin's got the hots for spots. D:
"You know, I've always loved you."
The man has a punctured lung, that's why he can't breath. Unfortunately, I don't think healing was that much of a skill for anyone here but the paladin.
Speaking of which, where did the barbarian and swashbuckler go? Seriously, the sniper take them out too?
Quote from: Manawolf on December 30, 2006, 04:11:56 PM
Speaking of which, where did the barbarian and swashbuckler go? Seriously, the sniper take them out too?
If I had to guess, I'd say that (since they're cameo characters) they got Plot Armor and survived the battle.
Not saying that they were uber-useful in the fight (since I don't recall them having ranged weapons, though they might be magic-users, too), but surviving should be a definite possibility.
I guess we wait and see. I'd expect Glory to take most of the heat, and I saw one of them had a shield somewhere...
Right hand side of panel 5 of strip 57, I believe. Abel59.jpg, anyway.
Quote from: Manawolf on December 30, 2006, 04:11:56 PM
The man has a punctured lung, that's why he can't breath. Unfortunately, I don't think healing was that much of a skill for anyone here but the paladin.
Speaking of which, where did the barbarian and swashbuckler go? Seriously, the sniper take them out too?
I'm fairly sure that I actually saw one of Glory's allies putting up a shield in the same strip that Xander was killed(?) in--there is a vague, blue shape in the corner of the very same panel that his hand was, and I'm assuming that was a shield, since a fireball was aimed directly toward it. Dang, is that Creature ever a multi-tasker.
I think someone once guessed that it was a clan symbol (Kittah's) when I was but a wee lurker.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Might be two different Creatures, Keaton. Remember that at this stage of the fight, there was the one on the roof and the one in the tower.
Admittedly the one on the roof swapped ammo pretty darn quickly, if that's what they did...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 30, 2006, 05:52:34 PM
Might be two different Creatures, Keaton. Remember that at this stage of the fight, there was the one on the roof and the one in the tower.
Admittedly the one on the roof swapped ammo pretty darn quickly, if that's what they did...
Hmm, point. Just, are we talking about the roof of the watchtower, or on the fort itself? Because I think a creature would've come rather close to being skewered if he happened to be resting on the same place that became an icicle nest.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: FireKatKid on December 30, 2006, 03:47:29 PM
He's obviously just mumbling about his love for Xander. Devin's got the hots for spots. D:
I was thinking something like that...the last word does kinda look like "love" instead of "move" to me.
He can't love? >_>
There's too much of a space if you were to take it that way.
Quote from: Gornemant on December 30, 2006, 07:26:54 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on December 30, 2006, 05:50:56 AM
Who says its thoughts that he's hearing? I have no idea what reanimation feels like or how long it takes but this could be the start of the undead race. (or at least a increase to their numbers)
That kind of fits with the the "can't breath" and "It hurts" voices, I would expect 'so cold' to be heard as well soon, maybe with a little a little screaming as some of them realise whats going on.
Damn thats a creepy thought. Of course being stuck somewhere with a head full of dying peoples thoughts is pretty nasty as well but at least they won't come up to you looking for their loved ones/legs.
usually it takes longer than a few second for someone to die :x
I personally know someone who was clinically dead in one fashion or another for 45 minutes and is still alive today. Death, unless from the most extreme trauma, is not a straight line. Various organs, functions, and parts of consciousness die in differing order and at varying speeds.
Poor Abel... Poor Devin... :mowsad
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 03:04:34 PMIf a fully-trained 'cubi can trap and eat souls, it also follows that 'cubi should be able to sense them, and I'd wager it's a damn sight easier if the soul has just detached from the body.
Depends on the details of the Furrae afterlife. I suspect that souls of the deceased are not physically connected to a time and place, like Ghost or Hamlet or Field of Dreams, which seems to be a sort of animistic theory of souls.
So I think he's hearing his dying thoughts.
Technically, I thought that cubi eat emotions, not souls? The eating of the soul is more like torture, a cubi that consumes laughter might tickle their prey to death for example.
Quote from: superluser on December 30, 2006, 08:20:35 PM
Depends on the details of the Furrae afterlife. I suspect that souls of the deceased are not physically connected to a time and place, like Ghost or Hamlet or Field of Dreams, which seems to be a sort of animistic theory of souls.
Difficult to work out what you're thinking here, because that's not quite what I meant. As you say, it depends very much on the mechanics of the Furrae afterlife, details of which we do not current have.
I'm not suggesting that Devin is permanently tied to the location of his death so much that he's become separated from his body a'la #175 until 'the management' deals with him, whether it be Jack or the tunnel of light business in the 'Warrior For Hire' arc.
(Yes, I know the 175 arc was "rolled back" - whether that makes the concept invalid is an open question :S )
Quote from: Kibin on December 30, 2006, 08:36:40 PM
Technically, I thought that cubi eat emotions, not souls?
They eat
energy, at least that's what the calendar says. They are equipped to run off emotional energy and dream energy (add that to the wiki). But yes, they can and often do devour people's souls which greatly increases their power and lifespan.
Oookay, put cubi on the "do not anger or they will eat your immortal soul" list...
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 08:41:26 PMI'm not suggesting that Devin is permanently tied to the location of his death so much that he's become separated from his body a'la #175 until 'the management' deals with him, whether it be Jack or the tunnel of light business in the 'Warrior For Hire' arc.
(Yes, I know the 175 arc was "rolled back" - whether that makes the concept invalid is an open question :S )
Well, fair enough. I suspect that this might apply to spectres and ghosts, but not to souls in general. My suspicion is that without a body to tie them to this world, souls just zap directly to their eternal reward, without passing GO or collecting 2 denarii.
This might be my personal religious beliefs coloring my view of Amber's world, but as I say, souls physically leaving the body sounds kinda archaic.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 08:41:26 PMBut yes, they can and often do devour people's souls which greatly increases their power and lifespan.
Has this been established in Amber's demonology? Just curious.
Quote from: superluser on December 30, 2006, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 08:41:26 PMBut yes, they can and often do devour people's souls which greatly increases their power and lifespan.
Has this been established in Amber's demonology? Just curious.
Well, she's said it several times on the forums, but since you ask, here's an extract from the 'Cubi entry in the Demonology:
"..while many Cubi are content to live lives peacefully simply absorbing energy, quite a few Cubi will gladly go for the power boost [soul stealing] that requires a bit of cruelty but gets more results a lot faster."
and:
"Much like their demonic cousins, Cubi seem intent on gaining power as it not only increases their lifespan and allows them special abilities, it is a prime focus of their clans goals."
**EDIT**
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=746.msg18019#msg18019
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 09:00:47 PMWell, she's said it several times on the forums, but since you ask, here's an extract from the 'Cubi entry in the Demonology
Thanks, but I didn't necessarily mean Fluffy's Demonology 101. Any of Amber's statements on the topic will do.
Specifically, the question is this: `cubi can feed on souls to extend their lives, but do they need to?
That picture in the attic certainly helped Dorian Gray live longer, but he was survived by those without the aid of magical paintings.
Quote from: Kibin on December 30, 2006, 08:47:34 PM
Oookay, put cubi on the "do not anger or they will eat your immortal soul" list...
*Charline grins* My dear, you don't need to get us angry for us to do that. You just have to have an appetizing soul...
Yours could use some nutmeg... >:3
Meh, I already lost my soul in a bizarre gardening accident.
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 30, 2006, 11:28:07 PM
Meh, I already lost my soul in a bizarre gardening accident.
Mistook a reaper for a Reaper, didja?
I think it Abel is developing the powers when the headwings appears. These things happens when stressful and dangerous situations arises and to hear Devin painfull words it's taking a toll on poor Abels mind. If that academy taught anything to abel about healing spells I hope he has some to give to Devin to save his life. If the chest wound is too much for Abel to handle then he has to hope that Glory will come and save Devin. I do know if Abel is a Libarian and can't do the skills of healing Devin. I don't know what will happens next I can't wait :eager.
Quote from: Kibin on December 30, 2006, 08:36:40 PM
Technically, I thought that cubi eat emotions, not souls? The eating of the soul is more like torture, a cubi that consumes laughter might tickle their prey to death for example.
They can 'leech' emotions, but some of them go in for the whole soul-devouring deal. It's like you're faced with a cup filled with a substance that can extend your lifespan. Some will sip at it from time to time, and some will take it all in one go.
`cubi are just faced with multiple cups*. :B
Although I'm guessing the 'value' of the soul is probably based on personality, memory, and such. Getting the soul of, say, a famous adventurer, would give a longer boost than getting the soul of an average commoner. :P
(*millions of little cups on legs, walking around like little Happy Meals, just waiting to be eaten. Cookie to whoever gets the quote! :P)
Quote from: Sheridan on December 31, 2006, 04:42:26 AM
(*millions of little cups on legs, walking around like little Happy Meals, just waiting to be eaten. Cookie to whoever gets the quote! :P)
Spike from Buffy when he's telling her why he doesn't want to let Angelus destroy the world?
Curse you DMoon and making me watch Buffy! D:
Bufffy never stuck to me strange enough
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 31, 2006, 04:51:27 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on December 31, 2006, 04:42:26 AM
(*millions of little cups on legs, walking around like little Happy Meals, just waiting to be eaten. Cookie to whoever gets the quote! :P)
Spike from Buffy when he's telling her why he doesn't want to let Angelus destroy the world?
Curse you DMoon and making me watch Buffy! D:
Yup. But I can't find any cookies now. :dface
EDIT: But I did find the image I wanted!
(http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1161382100-cookie.b.jpg)
:B
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 08:41:26 PM
They eat energy, at least that's what the calendar says. They are equipped to run off emotional energy and dream energy (add that to the wiki). But yes, they can and often do devour people's souls which greatly increases their power and lifespan.
... which makes one wonder what happens if you plug a Cubi into the mains....
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2006, 07:49:48 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 08:41:26 PM
They eat energy, at least that's what the calendar says. They are equipped to run off emotional energy and dream energy (add that to the wiki).
... which makes one wonder what happens if you plug a Cubi into the mains....
About the same as if you tried to put crude oil into the petrol tank, or tried to eat raw carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen.
Element resistance notwithstanding, it would probably count as 'killed by normal means' especially if you flew into a 250kv 3-phase transmission line.
I'll probably be doing an in-depth look at 'alternative energy' sometime in 2007 when Jakob's past runs out...
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2006, 12:23:25 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2006, 07:49:48 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 30, 2006, 08:41:26 PM
They eat energy, at least that's what the calendar says. They are equipped to run off emotional energy and dream energy (add that to the wiki).
... which makes one wonder what happens if you plug a Cubi into the mains....
About the same as if you tried to put crude oil into the petrol tank, or tried to eat raw carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen.
Element resistance notwithstanding, it would probably count as 'killed by normal means' especially if you flew into a 250kv 3-phase transmission line.
I'll probably be doing an in-depth look at 'alternative energy' sometime in 2007 when Jakob's past runs out...
Blame Rig for making me live so long....
OK, I see two possibilities at this point. One, Able will realize he can use the magic he's learned how to use to heal Devin from the point of death, thus cementing their friendship and causing them both to go forth and SMITE whoever it is attacking them, or, option two, Devin dies (:crying :crying), causing Abel to go totally Berzerk, which will scare everyone else around, and eventually lead to Abel's going to Saia to find a place where he can belong.
Quote from: Aleolus on December 31, 2006, 02:26:23 PM
OK, I see two possibilities at this point. One, Able will realize he can use the magic he's learned how to use to heal Devin from the point of death, thus cementing their friendship and causing them both to go forth and SMITE whoever it is attacking them, or, option two, Devin dies (:crying :crying), causing Abel to go totally Berzerk, which will scare everyone else around, and eventually lead to Abel's going to Saia to find a place where he can belong.
I like the first one :3
>> That'll hopefully....hopefully....be the one that ends up happening.
Quote from: Alondro on December 30, 2006, 11:08:07 PM
*Charline grins* My dear, you don't need to get us angry for us to do that. You just have to have an appetizing soul...
Yours could use some nutmeg... >:3
Aww, but you wouldn't eat MY soul, now would you? :3 *flutters headwings and gives you her most precocious stare possible*
As for my opinion of what will happen next... here's what I think'll happen. Abel might crawl over to Devin's corpse to see if he's actually talking, following the thoughts he has been picking up. Upon realizing that the voice he's hearing is in his head, he'll freak out, too preoccupied with his own horror to realize that the creature has only ceased fire in order to appear behind Abel--here I think it might be another Cubi, one of Abel's relatives, or just a member of the same clan that Abel is part of--and recognize him in one way or another. Thus, this reveals the identity of the creature to us.
Another option is the one that everyone else seems to be going through: Glory comes back after slaying the creature, only to see Abel near Devin's dead body and assume the worst.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
First, I must react to the comic.
Whoa. Just whoa. This has become a very stressful day indeed for Abel. And at first I thought Devin might have been talking somehow, but when I read the other posts I realized...
Aw expletive. Poor Abel. Poor Devin. It must suck to be alive when you're bleeding and in a lot of pain and can't breathe and... :(
And now, the speculation!
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 31, 2006, 02:48:45 PM
As for my opinion of what will happen next... here's what I think'll happen. Abel might crawl over to Devin's corpse to see if he's actually talking, following the thoughts he has been picking up. Upon realizing that the voice he's hearing is in his head, he'll freak out, too preoccupied with his own horror to realize that the creature has only ceased fire in order to appear behind Abel--here I think it might be another Cubi, one of Abel's relatives, or just a member of the same clan that Abel is part of--and recognize him in one way or another. Thus, this reveals the identity of the creature to us.
I'm thinking it's likely either Fa'Lina or Destania in that scenario. I was tempted to say Kria but then I remembered that she would have eaten the victims.
Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 31, 2006, 02:48:45 PMAnother option is the one that everyone else seems to be going through: Glory comes back after slaying the creature, only to see Abel near Devin's dead body and assume the worst.
This seems very likely to me as well. She may know that the spear in Devin's throat isn't Abel's fault, but she didn't trust Abel to begin with, and thus will probably attack him anyway. So it may be best if the creature killed Glory.
Quote from: Black_angel on December 31, 2006, 03:21:41 PMIf he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
The problem with this theory is that I doubt that this creature would leave Abel's parents alive.
Quote from: superluser on December 31, 2006, 03:49:01 PM
The problem with this theory is that I doubt that this creature would leave Abel's parents alive.
..and if the Creature is Cid..? (http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/icon_twisted.gif)
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_335.php
Something like that?
Quote from: modelincard on December 31, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_335.php
Something like that?
I just noticed that Kria teached Abel magic ... man I am slow
Quote from: Black_angel on December 31, 2006, 03:21:41 PM
Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I can't really imagine the creature as Cid. His almost oblivious enthusiasm at the beginning of the comic disarms any suspicion I may've had about him.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 31, 2006, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on December 31, 2006, 03:21:41 PM
Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
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Quote from: Black_angel on December 31, 2006, 03:21:41 PM
Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2006, 03:53:22 PM..and if the Creature is Cid..? (http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/icon_twisted.gif)
Well, then I doubt very much that Abel would leave his father alive.
OK. Serious now. What is this creature doing? It doesn't seem to be attacking for any real reason, more sort of having a bit of fun. We've never seen Cid doing anything like that. He seems rather stoic.
Unless... (Refill your heart medication now)
If that's Cid on the roof, he must have followed Abel from Zinvth. And since the creature had been active in the area for an unspecified, but probably significant amount of time (days and weeks rather than hours and days), and since the funeral for Cindy was probably within a couple of weeks (depending on local custom and knowledge of embalming), the creature would have had to begin his rampage before Cindy's death.
And since that means that Cid would have to be sneaking off, that would suggest a very deliberate reason for doing this. He probably would have engineered Cindy's death by feeding her negative emotions. Then he would take Abel off to SAIA aboard the Inconvenience or something.
It might be a sort of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing...
Or...y'know, maybe it's not Cid.
who knows what will Abel will do to help Devin. I hope he will do this right away and save Devin life. I don't know at this point but Abel has to get focused and try to do something to save Devins life.
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Who says its thoughts that he's hearing? I have no idea what reanimation feels like or how long it takes but this could be the start of the undead race. (or at least a increase to their numbers)
That kind of fits with the the "can't breath" and "It hurts" voices, I would expect 'so cold' to be heard as well soon, maybe with a little a little screaming as some of them realise whats going on.
Damn thats a creepy thought. Of course being stuck somewhere with a head full of dying peoples thoughts is pretty nasty as well but at least they won't come up to you looking for their loved ones/legs.
usually it takes longer than a few second for someone to die :x
I personally know someone who was clinically dead in one fashion or another for 45 minutes and is still alive today. Death, unless from the most extreme trauma, is not a straight line. Various organs, functions, and parts of consciousness die in differing order and at varying speeds.
Poor Abel... Poor Devin... :mowsad
How long have people strewn around the building been dead? It could be hours,days even. Also what killed them, blunt force trauma, stabbing, magic ?
Oh and demo.101 says that
one person has been dead for 34 years, not the age of the species.
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 01, 2007, 07:34:43 AM
Oh and demo.101 says that one person has been dead for 34 years, not the age of the species.
True. However, Amber has insinuated that the one listed was, mostly, at about the same time as all the others. Of course, this -is- Amber we're talking about, and she may well be insinuating one thing whilst actually meaning another, in her usual confusing way (and don't we like being confused? :-)
I suspect we'll have to wait and see if they show up in the comic at all. And even then...
If Devin were to become undead, the first thing he'd probably say is BRAAAAAAAAAINS
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on December 31, 2006, 04:44:44 PM
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Quote from: Black_angel on December 31, 2006, 03:21:41 PM
Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
(also yanks up a pillow and her new Jack Skellington plushie for comfort) Circle time? Please? :bunny
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 01, 2007, 07:34:43 AM
Oh and demo.101 says that one person has been dead for 34 years, not the age of the species.
Well from the context aboth that statement, the Demon that accidentally created the sentinent undead did so 34 years ago. So there you go. The undead race is 34 years old.
DEMO.101-link (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/undead.php)
Quote from: Tiger_T on January 01, 2007, 06:08:56 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 01, 2007, 07:34:43 AM
Oh and demo.101 says that one person has been dead for 34 years, not the age of the species.
Well from the context aboth that statement, the Demon that accidentally created the sentinent undead did so 34 years ago. So there you go. The undead race is 34 years old.
DEMO.101-link (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/undead.php)
From TFA:
QuoteSince they are a new race, only existing for a couple hundred years
So there you go. The undead race is a couple hundred years old.
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Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
(also yanks up a pillow and her new Jack Skellington plushie for comfort) Circle time? Please? :bunny
I will tell my tale and it will take 260 moons and 300 suns to tell it all!
Abel is 399 years old according to his cast page, so Devin's is going to die. MUUWAAHAAHA! SUFFER!
...unless a deus ex machina happens. Which probably won't happen. After all, one person already died. Wait... two people actually, hmmm... Maybe three? Wait, four, two people died because of that explosion...
Quote from: superluser on January 01, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
From TFA:
QuoteSince they are a new race, only existing for a couple hundred years
TFA? Got a link?
Quote from: Tiger_T on January 01, 2007, 08:42:50 PMTFA? Got a link?
TFA = The Fine Article (the very link that you provided)
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Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
(also yanks up a pillow and her new Jack Skellington plushie for comfort) Circle time? Please? :bunny
I will tell my tale and it will take 260 moons and 300 suns to tell it all!
Cliffs' notes plz kthx
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Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
(also yanks up a pillow and her new Jack Skellington plushie for comfort) Circle time? Please? :bunny
I will tell my tale and it will take 260 moons and 300 suns to tell it all!
Cliffs' notes plz kthx
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Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
(also yanks up a pillow and her new Jack Skellington plushie for comfort) Circle time? Please? :bunny
I will tell my tale and it will take 260 moons and 300 suns to tell it all!
Cliffs' notes plz kthx
Quoting for bigger quote box :3
Do I smell a quote tree?
Aah, found it. D'Oh.
I don't know how I could overlook it, sorry. :<
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Dude - what if it's his biological parent (assuming it's neither May nor Cid)? I see another scenario... The Creature is his parent. S/he was about to kill Abel, but saw the headwings and fur and realized who Abel was. As s/he is leaving, Abel sees the marking on his/her back and gets a dawning realization. If he returns home, he'll probably mention it to his parents and depending on whether or not my theory is correct, one of Abel's parents will have an explanation.
Ultimately, I'm going to assume with you that it's possibly one of Abel's parents, if only because of the beforementioned (by moi) similarities between those tentacle-needles which had been bombarding Devin, and Abel's wings. They don't have heads, after all. *pokes Abel's wings* Blegh, once more, I feel for Abel. If it IS one of his parents, then you can only imagine the emotional anguish he would go through. Then again, things aren't exactly all roses for him at the moment.
I'm not sure whether to cackle evilly or just weep for Abel at the moment.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
If you wanan hear my tale...You might wanna pull up a pillow
*pulls up a pillow and pops some popcorn* Try me.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
(also yanks up a pillow and her new Jack Skellington plushie for comfort) Circle time? Please? :bunny
I will tell my tale and it will take 260 moons and 300 suns to tell it all!
Cliffs' notes plz kthx
Quoting for bigger quote box :3
Do I smell a quote tree?
Yes, you do, Bill. Yes you do.
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Uh, I do believe that there's an entire newsgroup, alt.cascade, for this sort of stuff. Maybe we should just quote the relevant messages rather than every message that's ever existed in the history of the thread?
... buzzkill.
Quote pyramids. Only on the interwebs.
And surprisingly common on this forum. Seriously people, just stick to the reply button.
My responses are always irrelevant to everyone else's. They are to be put in a different category. For cool people.
Same here. Anywho I can't for wednesday update to see what happens next with Devin and Abel.
Quote from: superluser on December 31, 2006, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2006, 03:53:22 PM..and if the Creature is Cid..? (http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/stuff/icon_twisted.gif)
...and since that means that Cid would have to be sneaking off, that would suggest a very deliberate reason for doing this. He probably would have engineered Cindy's death by feeding her negative emotions. Then he would take Abel off to SAIA aboard the Inconvenience or something.
While I was being facetious about it being Cid, we don't know what he does during the day. In Strip 15, which is admittedly 18 years or so earlier, he comes home at night. If he did have to do some kind of part-time adventuring gig to make ends meet you wouldn't really know if that's what he was actually doing or not.
(That said, 50-something adventurers aren't exactly common)
My point in digging this up is this:
By the present timeline, Abel is rather put off by the 'cubi shapeshifting thing, even though he is very good at it. While this might be some innate quirk like the haemophobia thing, I feel it's more likely that something happened to cause that.
While Amber may well have a secret third possibility up her sleeve, the two more obvious ones are:
* Cid isn't his real father.. they were an incubus in disguise who seduced May.. family turmoil results etc etc
* The Creature is a 'cubi and it's someone he knows
Now it's possible that he does get whisked off to SAIA without seeing his parents ever again but that would make the Abel-Never-Changes-His-Base-Form the result of an event at SAIA, which strikes me as a little odd.
Quote from: Manawolf on January 02, 2007, 02:52:44 AM
[quote pyramids are] surprisingly common on this forum. Seriously people, just stick to the reply button.
While overuse of quote nesting is horrible, abstaining from it completely is IMHO, rather worse in that it becomes very difficult to work out who you're addressing, or in some cases what you're referring to at all. >:3
I'm not sure how he'd get whisked away, considering what info we've been given, SAIA accepts applicants rather than abducting random cubi.
I'm going with the notion that Abel's hearing voices of ghosts of the recently dead.
He probably missed our favourite spotty pup because he was distracted and he wasn't in much stress during the time of death. Devin, he watched him fall.
But, I could be wrong, it happens often.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 02, 2007, 11:42:56 AMWhile I was being facetious about it being Cid, we don't know what he does during the day. In Strip 15, which is admittedly 18 years or so earlier, he comes home at night. If he did have to do some kind of part-time adventuring gig to make ends meet you wouldn't really know if that's what he was actually doing or not.
Perhaps, but it still seems like Zinvth is a long way away. Pretending to moonlight as an adventurer doesn't help if you don't bring back the money, and unless he's doing highway robbery, he's not going to make much from random encounters.
Adventurers would tend to pack light, and most of the valuables that someone would be carrying would be instantly recognizable to any pawn broker in the town. The town that Cindy was in doesn't appear to be too big, and the 16th century cosmopolis Rome had only 100,000 people. In a town as small as this one surely is, everybody would know everybody's business, and if the fuzz came around to your shop asking about that nice sword with the red stains that you just got, you'd tend to remember who sold it to you.
And if you're going to say, `shapeshifter,' I find it odd that Devin wouldn't have mentioned that fact to Abel. The town would have surely picked up on the fact that reputable members of the community were repeatedly pawning items from the recently deceased, and put two and two together. Or hanged everybody, making it more difficult to find victims. As for impersonating a stranger, the town would obviously have put in an ordinance that no outsiders may pawn goods while the murders are still unsolved.
Ah, but he's pawning them in Zinvth, you say. Not likely. News of this sort would make it back to Zinvth, and while they would be unlikely to prosecute a fellow creature, this rather depends on them knowing that Cid is a creature, and if they know that, then I'm willing to bet that this information would have made it back to May, who seems not to know.
It's not a bad theory, though, now that I think about it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 02, 2007, 11:42:56 AM(That said, 50-something adventurers aren't exactly common)
``I remember my granddad telling me he saw him ... my granddad telling me he ... my granddad...''
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 02, 2007, 11:52:32 AM
I'm not sure how he'd get whisked away, considering what info we've been given, SAIA accepts applicants rather than abducting random cubi.
Technically, Dan was abducted. Even though Aary applied on his behalf, he didn't want to go. Hence, abduction.
I think Abel's about to accidentially eat Devin.
Think about it. Cubi can eat souls. If one was just floating there, and you were a Cubi reaching out to it, not knowing what you were doing, mightn't you end up pulling it closer to you, trying to help it somehow? Even as it was pulled inside you?
We don't really know everything about how soul-eatin' works but it seems entirely possible that Abel could end up trying to help Devin and accidentially absorbing his soul like a dry sponge on kool-aid.
Which would explain a few things about Abel's charming personality...
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on January 03, 2007, 10:38:29 AMI think Abel's about to accidentially eat Devin.
I'm pretty sure soul-eating is an acquired ability rather than an intrinsic one like emotion absorption. If he
did, we wouldn't actually know from a narrative point of view, since Abel knows nothing about it and he wouldn't know what happened, and there isn't really anyone else around who's wise enough in the ways of the 'cubi to tell him what he just did.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 02, 2007, 11:52:32 AM
I'm not sure how he'd get whisked away, considering what info we've been given, SAIA accepts applicants rather than abducting random cubi.
I was thinking more along the lines of Abel's attacker kidnapping him, as opposed to Fa'Lina working for SAIA. As for why, I was thinking maybe if it happened to be his relative, to get him out of the danger zone, or if it's just a random Cubi or Creature, to use as a meat shield.
As for the concept of Abel accidentally eating Devin's soul... I'm going to agree with Tapewolf. As much of an emotional blow as it would be for Abel (and quite the plot twist *hula dances*), I can't really imagine it happening involuntarily as opposed to it being a learned skill.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 02, 2007, 11:52:32 AM
I'm not sure how he'd get whisked away, considering what info we've been given, SAIA accepts applicants rather than abducting random cubi.
I know and it wasn't my idea to begin with, but it brings up an interesting point - how
does Abel get to SAIA, if neither of his parents are 'cubi? I'm thinking that someone at Zinvth sponsors him, say for example the doctor that Abel's parents will presumably take him to when he runs home with wings coming out of his head.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 03, 2007, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on January 02, 2007, 11:52:32 AM
I'm not sure how he'd get whisked away, considering what info we've been given, SAIA accepts applicants rather than abducting random cubi.
I know and it wasn't my idea to begin with, but it brings up an interesting point - how does Abel get to SAIA, if neither of his parents are 'cubi? I'm thinking that someone at Zinvth sponsors him, say for example the doctor that Abel's parents will presumably take him to when he runs home with wings coming out of his head.
What about Kria? If she still has a teaching career or is still in Zinvth, maybe she would help Abel out?
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 03, 2007, 01:47:17 PM
What about Kria? If she still has a teaching career or is still in Zinvth, maybe she would help Abel out?
Uh. She might be having fun and all, but she's not part of SAIA...
Well. Not unless there's things going on that Amber hasn't shown us yet. Any bets? :-)
There is probably some sort of orphan and foundling provision at SAIA, especially if Falina is as adoption crazy as she currently appears. Anyone want to donate to the "Orphans of Adventurer Hunters" Scholarship fund?
I'm speculating that if Abel eats Devin's soul, he's gonna know that he's eating it. The only circumstances that I can think of when that would happen would be if the creature on the roof were trying to get Devin's soul for some nefarious purpose.
Quote from: Mel Dragonkitty on January 03, 2007, 02:40:29 PMThere is probably some sort of orphan and foundling provision at SAIA
Abel's 24. I don't think he qualifies as an orphan. Even 400 years ago, Abel would be well past any age of majority. Even among `cubi, medieval times can be a harsh mistress.
Scratch even. 400 years ago, the age of majority would probably be somewhere in your early teens.
I didn't mean orphan in the strictly traditional sence. More of a Big Brothers/Big Sisters organization for cubi without clans.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 03, 2007, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 03, 2007, 01:47:17 PM
What about Kria? If she still has a teaching career or is still in Zinvth, maybe she would help Abel out?
Uh. She might be having fun and all, but she's not part of SAIA...
Well. Not unless there's things going on that Amber hasn't shown us yet. Any bets? :-)
Well, you don't necessarily have to be part of SAIA to send in a submission form, do you? O_o
~Keaton the Black Jackal
The librarian is a mythos, but I think they just keep her around for the tentacles.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 03, 2007, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 03, 2007, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 03, 2007, 01:47:17 PM
What about Kria? If she still has a teaching career or is still in Zinvth, maybe she would help Abel out?
Uh. She might be having fun and all, but she's not part of SAIA...
Well. Not unless there's things going on that Amber hasn't shown us yet. Any bets? :-)
Well, you don't necessarily have to be part of SAIA to send in a submission form, do you? O_o
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Well, you'd have to know about it, request one (probably), and provide a large amount of detailed information. (A comic said this, I forget which.) Theoretically, his non-cubi parent (be it May, Cid, or both) would be able to provide this information, but I doubt his teacher would know enough about him to be able to do it.
Quote from: modelincard on January 03, 2007, 04:51:24 PMWell, you'd have to know about it, request one (probably), and provide a large amount of detailed information. (A comic said this, I forget which.) Theoretically, his non-cubi parent (be it May, Cid, or both) would be able to provide this information, but I doubt his teacher would know enough about him to be able to do it.
I got the impression that the application was largely a formality, and that just about all applicants get accepted, provided that they are `cubi.
I wonder if anyone's ever tried the old enroll a pig prank at SAIA?
Found it:
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/SAIA
Scroll down a bit, second paragraph under "Application."
Quote from: modelincard on January 03, 2007, 07:53:52 PM
Found it:
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/SAIA
Scroll down a bit, second paragraph under "Application."
But where did Sid get that from in the first place? Part of it is from this:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1438.msg56515#msg56515
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 03, 2007, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: modelincard on January 03, 2007, 07:53:52 PM
Found it:
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/SAIA
Scroll down a bit, second paragraph under "Application."
But where did Sid get that from in the first place? Part of it is from this:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1438.msg56515#msg56515
What about Destina maybe she had a extra form just in case when Abel was born. Maybe she must of asked Kira to get a form through her connections at SAIA to get the form and henceforth landing it at Sid's hands. What about Fi maybe Destina call him and asked him for that favor to get that form for her. I have to stop I'm getting headache for the spouting off these theories.
I'm amazed that it took thought to come up with that crap >_>