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Title: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 27, 2006, 02:08:33 AM
Hey its nice she didnt kill him on the spot but in sport her chances telling the truth is usely high...Very high


Yet something is rotten in denmark and its not Ambers socks
Title: Re: Honesty hurts
Post by: Amber Williams on December 27, 2006, 02:09:17 AM
You have 1 minute to add a date to this thread otherwise I'm going to mine it.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 28/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 27, 2006, 02:10:03 AM
I fixed it ^^;
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 28/12/06
Post by: RJ on December 27, 2006, 02:11:25 AM
No wonder Abel and Fa'lina are close- Fa'lina causes confusion wherever she goes.  :)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 28/12/06
Post by: Reese Tora on December 27, 2006, 02:12:08 AM
dagnit!

I'm pretty sure I didn't see your thread when I started mine

--edit--

Well, Now I have to wonder what most dragons' reaction to Dan (or 'cubi in general) should be, if Pyroduck isn't representative of the species.

I'm definently thinking that Pyroduck's time traveler cover is looking weaker and weaker as the story progresses.

(removed one date thing, added my thoughts from the thread I had started)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 28/12/06
Post by: Roureem Egas on December 27, 2006, 02:14:23 AM
Fa'lina's hair is pretty light from when I last remember. Must be me. :/

Anyways, I find the little title on the bottom to be so appropriate.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Madmann135 on December 27, 2006, 02:20:08 AM
Me personally I would have named the title of the thread "Vague honisty"

It's weird how Dan doesn't like a number of dragons, yet he owed money to one (probably befriended him) and befriended Pyroduck, in addition to the fact that a number of dragons don't like the cyra clan. 

I'm still laughing over the spinoff where Dan was ranting on why he doesn't like dragons.  Me and dan are quite alike... we are both stubborn and hold grudges for a long time.  My enemies had better be glad I don't know how to use psychic powers and therefore kill from miles away.

I just disliked Missy Pink Poodle at first... now I really hate her.  She has some oracile thing going on where she can't say a honist and direct sentence.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 27, 2006, 02:22:02 AM
You can see it in her eyes...Somethings up
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Psaakyrn on December 27, 2006, 02:22:08 AM
Yep, Cyra clan problems it is. As for the internet, maybe it's related to some undersea cables being knocked out? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=au6dOp0iGc5w&refer=home

Eitherway.. What's Pyro's role in all of this, and how did he get into this mess to begin with? Of cause, it may be the omniprescent factor working full time, but that's a loophole I don't think anyone want to abuse. :o
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Sienna Maiu - M T on December 27, 2006, 02:25:51 AM
Oh Fa'Lina, you fiend!
I just love Pyroduck's expression in that last panel, and Fa'Lina's is pretty cool too, both are highly effective in portraying the appropriate moods.

I empathize on your sleep issues Miss Amber, of course in my own case, I suppose a lot is self-inflicted. Tonight for example I could have easily gone to sleep before eleven, and yet my clock now reads nearly 3:30. It's as though I'm a masochist of sleep-deprivation.
Well, I wish you all the best with your sleep-scheduling.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aridas on December 27, 2006, 02:27:55 AM
So, at least I was right about Pyro being alright... And this will now obviously explain why Abel's not actually going D:< DRAGON around dragons.... So, I'm beginning to think Destania has just gone insane with the draggie-killing and that most of it is a sort of survival bit. I wonder what the clan did to tick off dragons? I'm probably wrong about a few minor things here but i've got the basics.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Turnsky on December 27, 2006, 02:57:25 AM
either that or abel doesn't know Pyro's real identity yet..

on an artistic note, i'm envious on how amber draws wings..  and the sweet lineart  :3
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Manawolf on December 27, 2006, 02:58:55 AM
Always good to have willing allies (so to speak).  At least, those who just want peace, not more war and destruction.  Then again, the cubi aren't the nicest of races either.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 27, 2006, 03:05:48 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on December 27, 2006, 02:58:55 AM
Always good to have willing allies (so to speak).  At least, those who just want peace, not more war and destruction.  Then again, the cubi aren't the nicest of races either.

*cough* Im sure some are nicer than others...
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Alondro on December 27, 2006, 03:21:09 AM
*Charles hmms*  So, it's the 'Fa'lina and Pyro have a seperate plot' route.  Erf, that makes things even more confusing and harder to keep track of!  So now we've got the creature council plot, the Destania + Biggs plot (with or w/out Wildy?), the Fa'lina and Pyro plot, the mysterious from long-ago-Dark-Pegasus-knowing-about-Destania's-son plot, and the Charline eats everyone's souls and rules the galaxy plot.

*Charline snarls*  Didn't I tell you not to reveal that last one... *claws and fangs and wing tentacles attack!*

*Charles meep*  This is gonna hurt... alot...  :<

*Alondro winces as bits and pieces of Charles go flying this way and that...*  Oog.. that's gonna require some major reconstructive surgery... Anyway, certainly something mighty complicated is going on.  It's just a matter of who's going to act first.  And we mustn't count out the venomous Dr. Ink!  Who knows what wicked plans he's scheming behind the scenes!
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Dard on December 27, 2006, 04:15:34 AM
So it's just the Cyra clan that wants to wipe out all dragons.
I more and more get the feeling that Edward was abducted by dragons as some sort of blackmail aginst the Cyra clan and Fa'Lina wants to keep Dan ignorant about it and keep him out of the Cyra Clan's feud.
It would also explain how Pyroduck thinks he owes Dan a lot (because of his father's abduction) and how Dr. Ink was able to push Able's "button" with mentioning Edward Ti'Fiona.

I'm not sure yet about all motivations involved and how everything fits together, but it is beginning to make sense...
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: superluser on December 27, 2006, 04:26:36 AM
Quote from: Sienna Maiu - M T on December 27, 2006, 02:25:51 AMI just love Pyroduck's expression in that last panel

Yeah.  He looks put-upon, either because he knows that he is outclassed by an enemy, or he knows that he can't seriously attack his friend/ally.

Something still seems wrong.  Fa'Lina didn't say, ``the second a dragon finds a Cyra clan member, the dragon will try to kill it.''  So this still sounds like a Dan-centric thing, not even applicable to all Cyra.

Also, Pyro and Fa'Lina talked, and mentioned Abel?  This must have been before the SAIA arc, so what's so special about Abel?  Did Pyro know that Abel was going to be Dan's tutor?

Did Fa'Lina plan to make Abel Dan's tutor all the way back?  No, she couldn't have.  She didn't have any idea that Dan existed.  So this means that there's something special about Abel, too.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aridas on December 27, 2006, 04:29:09 AM
Quote from: superluser on December 27, 2006, 04:26:36 AM
Something still seems wrong. Fa'Lina didn't say, ``the second a dragon finds a Cyra clan member, the dragon will try to kill it.'' So this still sounds like a Dan-centric thing, not even applicable to all Cyra.
Uh, yes she did, basically. Saying that if they find out if he was from cyra, as opposed to simply finding out he's a cubi, should be good enough.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Mock AV on December 27, 2006, 04:40:57 AM
He's nice   :3
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: superluser on December 27, 2006, 04:45:11 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 27, 2006, 04:29:09 AMUh, yes she did, basically. Saying that if they find out if he was from cyra, as opposed to simply finding out he's a cubi, should be good enough.

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but something still seems wrong.  Or...maybe this goes the other way, that Pyro isn't one to attack Dan, but will attack any other Cyra.  I dunno, the statement still seems unusually specific and tailored to one character.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aridas on December 27, 2006, 04:46:55 AM
The thing that's always seemed to pop out first when people talk of dan is the fact he's Cyra clan. It comes up every time. Like... ZOMG CYRA CLAN often
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Snap on December 27, 2006, 04:49:02 AM
Well, if im not mistaken the only members of the cyra clan weve yet come to know are the cubi in dans family... and seeing that dragons are holding dans father hostage while searching for Destania also implies that it might not be a "dragons vs cubi" thing but rather a "dragons vs dans family" thing, which kinda results in a "dragons vs destania (and offsprings)" as far as i can tell.
Correct me if i missed someone here.

Also hooray for Pyroduck being the nice exception to the rule!
With Devin and Xanders corpse already lying under the christmas tree, Pyroduck would just have been to much to take. I cant even begin to wrap my head around how wrong that would seem in the regular pg13 dmfa timeline.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aridas on December 27, 2006, 05:02:27 AM
But as we already know, cyra clan cubi are rare, and Dan/Des seem to be the more immediately known... well, especially Des, I guess. But nobody really says it's about them, they talk of cyra clan.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 05:11:35 AM
Without specifics, it's all up in the air.

For all we know, Dan is the only one of the Cyra clan who is vulnerable. And that's simply because he's the only young Cyra cubi around....

Or maybe there's another reason. We won't know until Amber lets us know. Doo be doo be doo....
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: superluser on December 27, 2006, 05:33:08 AM
Quote from: Snap on December 27, 2006, 04:49:02 AMWell, if im not mistaken the only members of the cyra clan weve yet come to know are the cubi in dans family... and seeing that dragons are holding dans father hostage while searching for Destania also implies that it might not be a "dragons vs cubi" thing but rather a "dragons vs dans family" thing, which kinda results in a "dragons vs destania (and offsprings)" as far as i can tell.

See, that's what I'm wondering.  Trouble is that they aren't inherently anti-Dan, just anti-Dan-because-he's-a-Cyra.

So I'm wondering of this is some sort of prophecy thing, like ``There will come a son of an adventurer and a Cyra, and with him will end the dragon race.''
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Psaakyrn on December 27, 2006, 06:00:19 AM
Random thought: Does the quote at the bottom also refers to http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_113.php ?

Random thought 2: What sort of "Nice" does Fa'Lina mean? The nice "Nice, or the naughty "Nice"?

Random thought 3: I think Fa'Lina deserves her own cast page (even if she already has a mini-section under demonology).

Random thought 4: End of the dragon race seems too drastic.. Maybe the prophecy is figurative like the one Aaryanna got?

Random thought too many to bother numbering: If this culmulate in a final battle..
Dee: I am your mother!
Dan: Nooooo!!!.... wait, I need to stop forgetting these things.

Random thought X: Assuming superluser prophecy is correct, an alternative meaning: Perhaps because of Dan (or more precisely, Dan's relationship with his sister's husband), that the dragons give up their secular lifestyle and form a joint university with the cubi, and the great-grandson being the principal?

Random note: The power of aluminium compells you!
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 06:04:19 AM
If Fa'Lina was to have her own cast page, Amber would have to let out a lot more information about her that perhaps she doesn't want to, just yet.

Also, whose cast page would you remove to make space?
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Turnsky on December 27, 2006, 06:11:51 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 06:04:19 AM
If Fa'Lina was to have her own cast page, Amber would have to let out a lot more information about her that perhaps she doesn't want to, just yet.

Also, whose cast page would you remove to make space?

well, Fa'Lina could have a cast page filled with "??'s"  :mowtongue
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Psaakyrn on December 27, 2006, 06:15:26 AM
Not true, Regina's page has been there for a long time without new information, and Bigg's page was manipulated by Biggs to have false info.

And for your question, Aliyka technically has does less than Fa'Lina, and if I'm not wrong, appeared less too. (but adding is mor fun than removing/replacing..)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Stygian on December 27, 2006, 06:26:26 AM
Regardless of her former actions, I am beginning to resent Fa'Lina more and more. I vote that she be smitten with painful realization of her own conceit and some degree of truth very soon.

Quote from: superluser on December 27, 2006, 05:33:08 AM
Quote from: Snap on December 27, 2006, 04:49:02 AMWell, if im not mistaken the only members of the cyra clan weve yet come to know are the cubi in dans family... and seeing that dragons are holding dans father hostage while searching for Destania also implies that it might not be a "dragons vs cubi" thing but rather a "dragons vs dans family" thing, which kinda results in a "dragons vs destania (and offsprings)" as far as i can tell.

See, that's what I'm wondering. Trouble is that they aren't inherently anti-Dan, just anti-Dan-because-he's-a-Cyra.

So I'm wondering of this is some sort of prophecy thing, like ``There will come a son of an adventurer and daughter of a Cyra, and with him will end the dragon race.''

...I'm not sure how that all makes sense. Probably it doesn't. Hokay...

In any case, now is not the time to cop out and make the story unbearably clear. How many revelations have we had in the latest few strips? Too many, that's my opinion. You need to keep some suspense...
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Tapewolf on December 27, 2006, 07:14:02 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 27, 2006, 05:02:27 AM
But as we already know, cyra clan cubi are rare,
Er, do we know that?  Cyra Clan is supposed to be high and powerful according to Dan's bio.  While I suppose it's possible that it consists of a handful of extremely powerful and influential members, I rather doubt it.
Abel's clan does supposedly consist of a handful of scattered members and that makes his clan 'virtually extinct'.  So I'd expect there to be a few dozen Cyra members at the very least...

Quote from: Stygian on December 27, 2006, 06:26:26 AM
In any case, now is not the time to cop out and make the story unbearably clear. How many revelations have we had in the latest few strips? Too many, that's my opinion. You need to keep some suspense...
Agreed.

I have little else to add...
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aridas on December 27, 2006, 07:28:08 AM
Well you do notice that you don't see very many cyra clan around, don't you? ;P
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Tapewolf on December 27, 2006, 07:38:07 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 27, 2006, 07:28:08 AM
Well you do notice that you don't see very many cyra clan around, don't you? ;P
You don't see many other 'cubi, either... or do you?  >:3
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aridas on December 27, 2006, 07:41:21 AM
I was going to go by the assumption that clans would tend to share distinguishable features other than clan markings, but I could probably throw that one out the window. It still seems to me that the dragons have done something though, to get Destania so.. uh... crazy.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Tapewolf on December 27, 2006, 07:46:17 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 27, 2006, 07:41:21 AM
I was going to go by the assumption that clans would tend to share distinguishable features other than clan markings, but I could probably throw that one out the window.
Well there's the dragon heads and the pain thing, but that's not something you'd spot at first sight (not unless they tried to kill you, anyway).

QuoteIt still seems to me that the dragons have done something though, to get Destania so.. uh... crazy.
Good point, although I'm still thinking that Fa'Lina put her up to it since she seems to have a finger in all the pies, as it were.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 07:56:07 AM
Actually.. maybe it's jsut me, but I tend to think that Destania is not as simple-minded - nor as single-minded - as her conversations with Biggs may make her out to be.

Take, for example, Fa'Lina. Does -anyone- take anything she says for granted as being clear and straightforward? No? I thought not. Destania is almost as old as Fa'Lina. You can bet that she's going to be a lot brighter than she seems - and she seems smart enough already.

After all, it's not like you can survive to >7000 years without being at least a -little- street smart...



Of course, I may well be just reading more in to the comic than Amber ever put into it, which wouldn't surprise me at all. :-)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Tapewolf on December 27, 2006, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 07:56:07 AM
Actually.. maybe it's jsut me, but I tend to think that Destania is not as simple-minded - nor as single-minded - as her conversations with Biggs may make her out to be.

We know she can be stubborn though, and that despite their allegedly short attention spans, 'cubi can get locked into long-drawn out feuds.  Otherwise the clan rivalries would just have fizzled out.

QuoteTake, for example, Fa'Lina. Does -anyone- take anything she says for granted as being clear and straightforward? No? I thought not. Destania is almost as old as Fa'Lina. You can bet that she's going to be a lot brighter than she seems - and she seems smart enough already.

True, but she was like 2500 when the young Destania was brought into her care.  And she seems to be an expert manipulator.  If the Dragon business is Fa'Lina's idea, she could have drummed it into Destania over the course of seven millennia, starting from when Dee was young and malleable.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Caswin on December 27, 2006, 11:31:58 AM
So from what I'm hearing, this is supposed to be making everything clear and revealed and everything, but... well, Fa'Lina has managed to lose me over the last two comics.  What's going on?
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 01:17:11 PM
Nobody knows.

Well.. apart from Amber, who is snickering up her sleeves at us all. :-)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Madmann135 on December 27, 2006, 01:28:23 PM
I'm wondering why Cyra clan is considered a powerful clan.. I have numerous guesses but I don't have evidence to prove it.

A few dragon related guesses.
1 - Cyra clan likes the souls of dragons, hense the dragon tentical head thingeys.
2 - Dragons don't like Cyra clan so they got strong to fight the dragons.
3 - A Cyra clan and a dragon fell in love and the offspring is considered an abomination by dragon kind and therefore must be removed.
4 - A dragon found out that a Cyra clan member tasted good and the Cyra clan wants revenge.


I wonder where did Pyro and Pink Poodle first see each other?
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: thetire on December 27, 2006, 01:33:18 PM
the day the feud started was around the same time that pink spray paint was invented. No dragon could ever look anyone in the eyes if he had pink nails!  :mwaha
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Madmann135 on December 27, 2006, 01:43:24 PM
so your saying that a Cyra clan member spraypainted a dragon's nails pink and that started the fude?

I think pink nails coud be explained by "had lunch and didn't clean up properly"

If it was spray paint I think painting "you dragons suck" on the back of a dragon would start it.
Or 
painting circles around a dragon's eyes.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: superluser on December 27, 2006, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 27, 2006, 06:00:19 AMRandom thought 2: What sort of "Nice" does Fa'Lina mean? The nice "Nice, or the naughty "Nice"?

I say it means fastidious, the real definition from the 16th century.

Quote from: Tapewolf on December 27, 2006, 08:18:19 AMIf the Dragon business is Fa'Lina's idea, she could have drummed it into Destania over the course of seven millennia, starting from when Dee was young and malleable.

Well, that may be so, but it doesn't explain why she would make such a claim about the feud being a Cyra/Dan thing.  Also, why would Pyro specifically request that Fa'Lina talk to Abel, but not Aary?

Quote from: Stygian on December 27, 2006, 06:26:26 AM...I'm not sure how that all makes sense. Probably it doesn't. Hokay...

Yes.  I am currently running on two hours sleep.  Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Kibin on December 27, 2006, 01:59:43 PM
The reason why the dragons are against Cyra clan members could possibly be because a member of the Cyra clan wronged the dragons in some way, probably something like stiffing the dragons on a deal. This has grown to be a feud between the two. It's possible Dan is in danger because as he is still young and inexperienced, he's a lot easier to take down than, say, Destania, and thus an easier target for the dragons to strike against the Cyra clan.

Destania's plotting would thus be part of this feud, and she would then have to have some way to wage a war against the dragons that she believes that she is going to win and that is going to be over fairly quickly. It might be related to the kidnapping that Biggs(and Destania) is doing. It also might be that speaking of the end of the dragon race is simply metaphorical, and that she's thinking of simply removing the dragon race from power, by economic means or something similar. Kidnapp people to gain information about the dragon's economic power, and once you have enough information, strike against them by a stock market crash or something like that.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: thetire on December 27, 2006, 02:17:27 PM
Quote from: Madmann135 on December 27, 2006, 01:43:24 PM
so your saying that a Cyra clan member spraypainted a dragon's nails pink and that started the fude?

I think pink nails coud be explained by "had lunch and didn't clean up properly"

If it was spray paint I think painting "you dragons suck" on the back of a dragon would start it.
Or 
painting circles around a dragon's eyes.

*cough* not that I would know anything about that...  :animesweat
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 27, 2006, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 27, 2006, 07:14:02 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 27, 2006, 05:02:27 AM
But as we already know, cyra clan cubi are rare,
Er, do we know that?  Cyra Clan is supposed to be high and powerful according to Dan's bio.  While I suppose it's possible that it consists of a handful of extremely powerful and influential members, I rather doubt it.
Abel's clan does supposedly consist of a handful of scattered members and that makes his clan 'virtually extinct'.  So I'd expect there to be a few dozen Cyra members at the very least...
I have little else to add...


Other than I am the soul survivor of my own clain...Who looms like a mushroom?
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 27, 2006, 05:43:54 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 27, 2006, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 27, 2006, 06:00:19 AMRandom thought 2: What sort of "Nice" does Fa'Lina mean? The nice "Nice, or the naughty "Nice"?

I say it means fastidious, the real definition from the 16th century.

You mean "scrupulously correct" ?
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Alan Garou on December 27, 2006, 06:47:22 PM
Fa'Lina is obviously the mistress of the loophole. Awesome.  :)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Aleolus on December 27, 2006, 06:56:22 PM
...Ok, Fa'lina, could you be more vauge?  I mean, oi vey!
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Alondro on December 27, 2006, 07:29:10 PM
*Charline hmms*  Cyra clan... *gasp!*  It's a racist attack by the CCC!  The Cyra Cats Clan!  They'll burn effigees on the dragons' front lawns!  They'll burn down dragon temples!  They'll force dragons to sit on the back ends of busses.. literallt sitting ON the back ends of busses...)  And look!  They're already keeping cubi and dragons segregated!  NOW it makes sense why Dan is a racist!  His whole clan is a bunch of evil hatemongers!   :U
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: superluser on December 27, 2006, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: Alondro on December 27, 2006, 07:29:10 PMIt's a racist attack by the CCC!  The Council of Conservative `Cubi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Conservative_Citizens)!

Fixed that for ya.

Quote from: Alondro on December 27, 2006, 07:29:10 PMNOW it makes sense why Dan is a racist!  His whole clan is a bunch of evil hatemongers!   :U

And as we all know, it's been proven that you can predict the behavior of any organism by knowing what race clan he is.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Reese Tora on December 27, 2006, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 27, 2006, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: Alondro on December 27, 2006, 07:29:10 PMIt's a racist attack by the CCC!  The Council of Conservative `Cubi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Conservative_Citizens)!

Fixed that for ya.

Quote from: Alondro on December 27, 2006, 07:29:10 PMNOW it makes sense why Dan is a racist!  His whole clan is a bunch of evil hatemongers!   :U

And as we all know, it's been proven that you can predict the behavior of any organism by knowing what race clan he is.

Well, it would have been a good point if he'd been raised by his own clan... oh, wait, how long was he raised by his mother before she left?  I don't remember hearing how old he was when she did.  A child will generally imprint with thier parent's prejudices fairly quickly, so it would really depend on 1: how long Destania stuck around, and 2: whether or not Edward would have conflicting or reinforcing views of the dragon race.

If his parents both were prejudiced against dragons, it would be a very reasonable explanation to dan's own behavior (Which has been reinforced by personal experience as well.)
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 27, 2006, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on December 27, 2006, 06:47:22 PM
Fa'Lina is obviously the mistress of the loophole. Awesome.  :)

or it could be that amber s queen of the plotholes.but I didn't say anything.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Imperial fox on December 27, 2006, 11:12:03 PM
what is it with Dragons and the Cyra clan, honestly?
is it that they just hate eachother for no apparent reason.
or the clan is nearly wiped out so they would easily pick them off?
or
Cubi and Dragons just hate eachother?
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 27, 2006, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: Blade Fox on December 27, 2006, 11:12:03 PM
what is it with Dragons and the Cyra clan, honestly?
is it that they just hate eachother for no apparent reason.
or the clan is nearly wiped out so they would easily pick them off?
or
Cubi and Dragons just hate eachother?

Its just a romanice that can never be healed and stiched
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Taross on December 28, 2006, 01:58:57 AM
Didn't dragons already kill Dan once? :P
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Kibin on December 28, 2006, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: Taross on December 28, 2006, 01:58:57 AM
Didn't dragons already kill Dan once? :P

That entire storyline was retconned.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Alondro on December 28, 2006, 11:13:51 AM
*Charles snerks*  I'm Conservative, BTW, superluser.   And yer obvee-usly a Lib'ral!  Now I gotcha ya pinko commie-nazi-Frenchman!  Time ta break of the Confed'rat flag an' git dem crosses a' burnin'!  Yee-haw!  NASCAR!  Where's mah cousin?  I needs to inbreed s'more!   :B

As for Dan being a racist, I wasn't referring to dragons.  I was referring to his racism against his own kind (though he hadn't exactly had any reasons to think otherwise up to this point, and Abel himself has admitted to Jyrras that most cubi are jerks... and Fa'lina did sorta bash him over the head... and Dr. Ink did sorta perform horrific tests upon him... and Arryanna didn't exactly help matters by constantly insisting that Dan tear apart young girls and devour their souls... uhm, I think maybe he has a valid excuse). 

My little farce is that Dan's clan is a hard-wired hate-mongering clan.  It stems from the fact that cubi clans are already programmed to have a preference for certain types of emotions, therefore why couldn't it apply to other behaviors as well?  A focus on one particular type of emotion would also tend to lead the clan members to certain actions that would then generate more of the emotion they feed upon.  Racism would lead to pain, obviously, in one form or another.  It'd become a self-reinforcing attitude, as they would gain strength from it, which would allow them to hate even more strongly and cause more pain, which would give them even more energy, and so on. 

And certainly there must be a clan out there that specializes in hate, regardless, since we must assume that all emotions are covered in the cubi races, unless the pure-hate clans were among those wiped out in the cubi wars.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 28, 2006, 01:13:56 PM
I knew Falina has a hand in this war against the dragons. I never trusted her since she first appeared. There is a war comming and Dan is the only one that he could stop it being from the Cyra Clan. I bet he's so powerful that he doesn't know it.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Alondro on December 28, 2006, 03:31:15 PM
Uhm... yeah... Dan will be the only cubi capable of acheiving the tetra-wing power level... cuz he's a half-breed and all half-breeds have WAY more power than pure-breds (except Inuyasha, who only has power because of his sword, otherwise he's a wussy lil demon compared to Sessomaru).  Oh wait!  Dan got a sword from matilda!  So that'll be the magic sword he was destined to get from his father... but his father was only an adventurer.  Hmm...

Okay, how's about this.  Dan's grandfather on his mother's side (obviously not he clan founder or Dan and destania wouldn't have tentacle heads) made a sword out of one of his wing-tentacles just before being slain by Edward.  Edward took the sword as a trophy, not realizing the hidden powers within!  Destania, already a grown cubi at the Academy, knows nothing of this and one day met up with Edward, had Dan; and now Dan by a mysterious power of fate as the sword and will soon unlock its tremendous power which will make him strong wnough to defeat even the wicked Dr. Ink, who is actually a being who gave his soul to the demons and gained tremendous powers and abilities and now seeks to destroy Inuya... er... Dan, who is destined to destroy him.  But he didn't do it at SAIA because Fa'lina would have sensed his true identity and destroyed him then and there, cuz she's mysteriously powerful too, thus he merely tested Dan to confirm his identity and knowledge of where he lives.  Dr. Ink is driving things behind the scenes to get Dan killed in battle so he won't have to do it.  He'll force Jy-squeak to kill the ones he loves by making him think they've betrayed him: Dan, Abel, Lorenda, and whoever else he gets a crush on eventually.  And after that, Dan is pinned with a techno-magic arrow to the ancient ale keg for 50 years until he realizes his true power and ascends to Super Cubyan level 600000000, thus easily destroying Dr. Ink and saving the world, after which they all celebrate with korean BBQ.

And that's what'll happen.   :3
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: superluser on December 28, 2006, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: Alondro on December 28, 2006, 11:13:51 AM*Charles snerks*  I'm Conservative, BTW, superluser.   And yer obvee-usly a Lib'ral!  Now I gotcha ya pinko commie-nazi-Frenchman!

Well, the CCC (formerly the White Citizens' Council) is a white separatist organization synonymous with racism in the US.  `Conservative' in this case means about as much as `American' did in the American (A/K/A Know-Nothing) Party.
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 28, 2006, 03:38:07 PM
Have you been eating from the sugar bowl again  :erk
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: bill on December 28, 2006, 03:38:55 PM
I don't think I want to even bother reading page 2.   :erk
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Stygian on December 28, 2006, 07:31:51 PM
Stygian: A conservative geneticist?! I thought you were all stuck in the mid 19th century! Rargh! *he pulls up one of his .50 cals and loads it with a tranquilizer dart*

Stygian: Oh, and no matter what people say, Fa'Lina is scatterbrained, vicious and fickle... Which We despise! Now, get here, you horrible little gaybeater! I'm gonna "examine" you!
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Alondro on December 29, 2006, 01:10:35 AM
*Charles merely grins*  Stygian, conservativism merely fits my goals better than the weakness of socialist ideology.  You can't affix any lable to me because I don't fit any of them.  My dear creature, no one knows us. 

*Charline grins as well* No one will know...

*Alondro grins*  Until the day comes for us to show what we really are...

*all don rubber noses*  Clowns!  *big freakish clown smiles!*   :D  Don't fear us... we all floooooat down here!  And you'll float too!
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Stygian on December 29, 2006, 05:42:36 AM
*Stygian gapes, then shakes his head*  No! You're lying! We are the only It here, and so it shall remain...  *he takes out his other gun and silver bullets*

*While loading, he affixes them both with his gaze* Oh, and by the way, automatically assuming that We're toward the other end of the scale like that isn't very clever. It's not that we're not right-wing, just that american conservatism appalls us. Now stand still and this will be over quick...
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: Zedd on December 29, 2006, 02:24:35 PM
Hmmm well..You know..This is one the reasons I do belvie I can grow a chuckle seeing this chaos happening
Title: Re: Honesty hurts 27/12/06
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 31, 2006, 09:50:28 PM
I could say this *SHOOT, SHOOT, SHOOT* yeahhhhhhhh I love random violence. >:3