That came out of nowhere. Damn teleporters.
Ah, the one Cubi I trust to be powerful enough to properly stand up to a dragon. Not that I expect her to EVER resort to a straight up fight. She's way too smart for that... She'd manipulate events so she could resolve the situation most efficiently, with minimal effort.
Seems she and Pyroduck are acquainted. Again, no surprise.
So who, exactly, is Mab talking to?
Now I'm confused. Fa'Lina's not in Cyra clan. So this must mean that it's not just one clan or one family. Is Fa'Lina protecting Alexsi?
If Fa'Lina knew about Pyro (and she did; he was a character in the minds of everybody who went to SAIA to rescue Dan--well, aside from Aary), then why would she have let Dan leave?
She surely had the chance. If it were truly dangerous for Dan, she could have locked him up in the dungeon.
...Oh, wait. That's a Cyra marking on the warp-aci. Looks like Fi really did get a message to Fa'Lina.
...Nevermind.
Fi, you little squealer. You're just killing my liking for a lot of characters, Amber.
Quote from: HaZ×MaT on December 21, 2006, 10:16:44 PMSo who, exactly, is Mab talking to?
Herself.
She's obviously referring to 698, and since Pyro is nowhere around, and presumably did not stick his hand in the tree, Mab is emulating Gidget and has turned psychotic (bonus points for those who get the reference).
...anyways, the fact that Fi was able to get to Fa'Lina without any trouble makes it implausible that Destania felt that communicating with SAIA was unsafe. So Destania really doesn't want to communicate with SAIA.
hmm.. speculation dictates that Fa'lina is going to mistake Alexi for Dan, because of misinformation given to her by Fi. Nah, too easy.
Oh snap...
WHOOHOO! *does the Fa'Lina dance of joy* And is it just me, or did Fa'Lina get at the very least a small graphics update? I think also a minor wardrobe change, if the one strap to the neck piece counts.
And I think we just witnessed the closest DMFA can get to telefragging. GO FA'LINA, GO!
More on-topic: It appears that Pyro and Fa'Lina are old "friends", too... this might get interesting.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on December 21, 2006, 10:27:00 PM
hmm.. speculation dictates that Fa'lina is going to mistake Alexi for Dan, because of misinformation given to her by Fi. Nah, too easy.
Doubt it, since then, Merbel would have to be around, too. And if the adventurers were able to sense the transformation magic, then Fa'Lina should be able to sense it (or the lack of it), too.
Quote from: Sid on December 21, 2006, 10:31:28 PMthe adventurers
Ho-lee crap!
This is just prime for awesomeness. The adventurers are looking for `cubi, and run into Fa'Lina. Suddenly, the adventurers start bleeding from orifices that can't exist in fewer than 12 dimensions...
Hmm, so Pyro and Fa'lina know each other... Just how high ranking is Pyro in the dragon heirarchy anyways? Realy thinking pretty high if those two know each other and are still alive
*Charline gasps!* Oh no! Fa'lina can't horribly slaughter Pyro! I haven't even had the chance to seduce him yet! *sighs* Too late now. I suppose I'll just have to find someone else to molest...
*Charles and Alondro make themselves very scarce! A note of commentary on the comic is left behind* Note: It's a very interesting scenario. The thing is, does Pyro know of Fa'lina from the future and this encounter will lead to a major battle, or was the future thing a lie and there's something else going on! Since we don't know for sure either way... stay tuned for the next episode of DMFA or "When dragons and pink poodles collide!"
This won't lead to good things. I wonder when Alexi will realize what happened to Pyro.
Its not gonna be bright and pretty what happens next Charline *headwing twitches in disbelief*
Now I'm starting to wonder. Was Pyro sent to LL by Edward to protect Alexi and Dan since he knows about some secret plot that is being droven by a secret group of creatures to sow anarchy throughout the planet while they take over afterwards? And could it be something that even Fa'lina doesn't know about which may start even more mayhem?
Nah, I bet everyone but the main cast, a fair amount of the supporting cast, many of the extras and the readers are in on everything.
Ah.
I know what Amber is going to do.
Cutscene.
I'll put.. oh.... maybe two dollars and fifteen cents on it? :-)
Quote from: Alondro on December 21, 2006, 10:46:14 PMThe thing is, does Pyro know of Fa'lina from the future and this encounter will lead to a major battle
It's more likely that he knows her from the past, or by reputation.
Remember--Fa'Lina would not know that Pyro is a time traveller, if they've never met before, and if Pyro admits that he knows her, she could easily put two and two together. Pyro would not give up that information for no reason.
A thought occurs. With Fa'Lina on the move, is it possible that the designs of Destania and Biggs might be disrupted? Fa'Lina is certainly sympathetic to wanting to keep the Ti'Fiona kids out of harm, but this isn't her fight.
Or to be more precise, she's not on Destania's side. She might be neutral, and in times of peace, she might be on the side of justice, but if a real war flares up, she might just be on the side of the dragons.
Quote from: Fresnor on December 21, 2006, 10:50:21 PMWas Pyro sent to LL by Edward to protect Alexi and Dan since he knows about some secret plot that is being droven by a secret group of creatures to sow anarchy throughout the planet while they take over afterwards?
I only said I THOUGHT he kidnapped himself. You're the one who's so f'ing certain!
Is it just me, or does Fi look a little...angry?
Quote from: HeroZero on December 21, 2006, 11:10:39 PMIs it just me, or does Fi look a little...angry?
I'd say more...satisfied?
Fa'Lina = Chaos in a bottle
To bad the cubi don't take after their more...celestial ancestors. A bit too demonic.
Quote from: Zedd on December 21, 2006, 11:17:21 PM
Fa'Lina = Chaos in a bottle
Do you have to bribe her the right way?
....
What? She does like singing and dancing. >.>
the Warp Aki looks angry but Fa'lina looks almost happy in her own psychotic way.
I'm still wondering what Pyro's roll is in with the current plot. I know he has near oricale furture telling abilities (as in don't bet against him).
Not to mention we have yet to really see Pyro in a fight, for all we know he could be the most powerful there. I said really see him in a fight because against Abel, Pyro literally just used his weight and size to stop Abel's attacks, though Abel's attacks seemed to have little effect upon him in the long run.
Quote from: FireKatKid on December 21, 2006, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: Zedd on December 21, 2006, 11:17:21 PM
Fa'Lina = Chaos in a bottle
Do you have to bribe her the right way?
....
What? She does like singing and dancing. >.>
I could try kissing but a lady that age takes time to romance and probley a basketful of muffins..
Say, have we ever seen Pyro and Fa' Lina at the same time?
>:3
*twilight zone music*
Yeah, we just did, that's his tail in the last panel.
...Well, there goes conspiracy #3045. Eh well.
Quote from: Madmann135 on December 21, 2006, 11:22:05 PMthe Warp Aki looks angry but Fa'lina looks almost happy in her own psychotic way.
Well, that's Fa'Lina for you. She does seem mercurial. Which would explain why she gets on so well with Cyra clan.
Quote from: Manawolf on December 21, 2006, 11:28:47 PMYeah, we just did, that's his tail in the last panel.
Can you prove that? :smack (owww...)
Speculation go!
Fa'Lina reveals that the whole "extinction of dragons" thing is another big joke!
Fa'Lina and Pyro will have a venomous exchange about the days when they used to date.
Pyro will explain himself to Fa'Lina through interpretive dance.
During the fight between Fa'Lina and Pyro, an earthquake will open a rift in the earth that will swallow up Alexsi and force cubi and dragon to join forces to save an innocent being.
DMFA Forumites: Because sane predictions are for amateurs.
One has to consider whether Destinia's thoughts on species genocide is actually in line with general cubi beliefs though.
My thoughts:
a) However unlikely, Biggs is actually manipulating Destinia. (remember, only he has the information, why not "twist" it slightly to his advantage?)
b) The dragons (in general) believe the Ti'fonia family line to be of sufficient importance to justify "kidnapping". (note, we don't really know this to be true, since the information is only from Biggs.)
c) Pyro is not in agreeance (sp?) with the dragons (in general), and decide to step in, to prevent mishap to Dan, and the possibly eventual conflict.
d) The dragons already knows where Dan is. (it's not as if he's the quiet type of adventurer, and even if he wasn't, the Demons and other races (e.g. Fae) knows anyway.)
e) There is a long-standing rivary between Cyra clan and Dragons. Perhaps related to this portion of Demo 101: "Those that even bother to associate with other races are usually doing it for their own benefit and it isn't uncommon to hear of how a dragon double-crossed a powerful demon or cubi in order to further its own means."
Hooooly crud, and Fa'Lina makes an appearance finally. I wonder where she was all that time. It seems that she'd be able to teleport right quickly whence Fi got to her, unless she was stopped by Hot Pockets again. :B
I wonder, Pyroduck might've known that he was getting into some Cubi trouble...circumstances being what they are, I guess he's quite confident he'll stand a chance if he didn't head for the hills already. :erk
Quote from: Miss MabHa! I bet that was why you put your hand in it!
I just realized that that is referencing
comic 698 And yes, Psaakyrn, you do have many good points, especially letter e.
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on December 22, 2006, 12:00:17 AM
I wonder, Pyroduck might've known that he was getting into some Cubi trouble...circumstances being what they are, I guess he's quite confident he'll stand a chance if he didn't head for the hills already. :erk
That or he didn't care >:3 He might have loved Alexi too much for a little Cubi vs. Dragon thing to get in the way. :giggle
And, as always Amber: :eager :eager :eager
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 21, 2006, 11:58:54 PMOne has to consider whether Destinia's thoughts on species genocide is actually in line with general cubi beliefs though.
Genocide is generally one of those things that is considered bad across all cultures. It's extremely rare to find something like that, and so you'll hear that often used as a counterexample for moral relativism.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 21, 2006, 11:58:54 PMMy thoughts:
a) However unlikely, Biggs is actually manipulating Destinia. (remember, only he has the information, why not "twist" it slightly to his advantage?)
b) The dragons (in general) believe the Ti'fonia family line to be of sufficient importance to justify "kidnapping". (note, we don't really know this to be true, since the information is only from Biggs.)
d) The dragons already knows where Dan is. (it's not as if he's the quiet type of adventurer, and even if he wasn't, the Demons and other races (e.g. Fae) knows anyway.)
a) Destania could easily read Biggs' mind and find out the real deal.
b) That's very probably true, since Destania probably left for TT when she found out that Ed was kidnapped.
d) Yeah, plus Dan has had varied dealings with dragons already.
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on December 22, 2006, 12:00:17 AMunless she was stopped by Hot Pockets again. :B
*cough* Hot Pockets? I don't get how that would distract anyone. Let alone a succubus. You suppose they have a `cubi version? Soul Pocket! Maybe they have a version of the Lean Pocket? Oh, I don't want to fill up on personality. I'll just have the Emotion Pocket.
I wonder if the `cubi versions still give you the trademark indigestion?
Quote from: superluser on December 22, 2006, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 21, 2006, 11:58:54 PMOne has to consider whether Destinia's thoughts on species genocide is actually in line with general cubi beliefs though.
Genocide is generally one of those things that is considered bad across all cultures. It's extremely rare to find something like that, and so you'll hear that often used as a counterexample for moral relativism.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 21, 2006, 11:58:54 PMMy thoughts:
a) However unlikely, Biggs is actually manipulating Destinia. (remember, only he has the information, why not "twist" it slightly to his advantage?)
b) The dragons (in general) believe the Ti'fonia family line to be of sufficient importance to justify "kidnapping". (note, we don't really know this to be true, since the information is only from Biggs.)
d) The dragons already knows where Dan is. (it's not as if he's the quiet type of adventurer, and even if he wasn't, the Demons and other races (e.g. Fae) knows anyway.)
a) Destania could easily read Biggs' mind and find out the real deal.
b) That's very probably true, since Destania probably left for TT when she found out that Ed was kidnapped.
d) Yeah, plus Dan has had varied dealings with dragons already.
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on December 22, 2006, 12:00:17 AMunless she was stopped by Hot Pockets again. :B
*cough* Hot Pockets? I don't get how that would distract anyone. Let alone a succubus. You suppose they have a `cubi version? Soul Pocket! Maybe they have a version of the Lean Pocket? Oh, I don't want to fill up on personality. I'll just have the Emotion Pocket.
I wonder if the `cubi versions still give you the trademark indigestion?
You put too much confidence in Destinia's mindreading capability and too little in Bigg's own capabilities. Considering that it appears that Biggs appears to be in the creature/being council, I would think that he would at least know how to use a mind shield. (I wonder if the first meeting between Biggs and Dan was orchestrated, right up to him beng pwned by his sister)
On other notes, I think it's conclusive that Alexi doesn't know thay Pyro is a dragon, cause unlike Biggs, she has no reason at all to have a mind shield.
Actually, the way I read it from panel to panel, Falaffle is right behind Lexi and Mab, and just snagged Pyro, pinning him to the ground.
So Mab's talking to Pyro, and in the 2nd panel, Pyro is under us and behind just a little me thinks.
In the 3rd, Mab and Lexi are behind us.
Just how I took it :)
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 22, 2006, 12:31:05 AMYou put too much confidence in Destinia's mindreading capability and too little in Bigg's own capabilities. Considering that it appears that Biggs appears to be in the creature/being council, I would think that he would at least know how to use a mind shield. (I wonder if the first meeting between Biggs and Dan was orchestrated, right up to him beng pwned by his sister)
Well, I don't think that all creatures can read minds, and just because you're on the same council doesn't mean that you're going to share information about how to keep other council members from getting into your business. Especially if that makes it less likely that votes would go your way.
It seems unlikely that Biggs would have a mind shield on for years on end, and it also seems highly unlikely that Biggs would put mind shields on his underlings, who would have to interact with Destania every once in a while.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 22, 2006, 12:31:05 AMOn other notes, I think it's conclusive that Alexi doesn't know thay Pyro is a dragon, cause unlike Biggs, she has no reason at all to have a mind shield.
What you say could make sense. Memories are very malleable, and it may be that when people who don't know dragons see one, they just sort of reform the image to something comfortable, like Death. Which would explain why Fa'Lina never saw the dragon in everybody's minds at SAIA.
Quote from: Grenn on December 22, 2006, 12:41:20 AMSo Mab's talking to Pyro, and in the 2nd panel, Pyro is under us and behind just a little me thinks.
But Alexsi has already mentioned that Pyro is gone by the time Mab speaks. Surely she wouldn't continue talking to someone who has just been established to be gone.
Quote from: superluser on December 22, 2006, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on December 22, 2006, 12:00:17 AMunless she was stopped by Hot Pockets again. :B
*cough* Hot Pockets? I don't get how that would distract anyone. Let alone a succubus.
I believe she was talking about Fi. Fi
loves Hot Pockets.
What was Fa'Linas favourite food again?
Anyway... It can't be Biggs's doing. He's much too young for that.
Remember him mentioning the whole "friend of the family for generations"-thing. ;)
Quote from: Madd the Sane on December 22, 2006, 12:54:54 AMI believe she was talking about Fi. Fi loves Hot Pockets.
That's right. Now I feel stupid. I suppose it's OK to eat them if you don't actually exist in this dimension. Maybe that's the next venture for Hot Pockets: Dimension Pocket!
(Plus, I can't pass up a chance to make a Hot Pocket joke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_nCa0kDIow))
Quote from: Tiger_T on December 22, 2006, 01:07:13 AMWhat was Fa'Linas favourite food again?
Muffins. I might suggest blueberry muffins of death:
Quote from: superluser on November 01, 2006, 12:59:18 PMLast year or so, someone died in the apartment below me. Whatever they used to cover up the stench smelled like blueberry muffins. But it wasn't quite strong enough to cover the smell of a dead body, so Blueberry Muffins of Death.
I actually can't tell whether she wants to kill Pyro, or is just giving him a friendly greeting. That's frightening.
oooh... I'm sensing some drama-rama around the corner :3
Expected but funny none the less. also unless some one it thinking about something at the moment a surface probe is not likely to pick up on it.
Okay, this whole telepathy thing is really starting to get old. I liked it better when it was just used for nonoral communication.
Quote from: Manawolf on December 22, 2006, 01:53:09 AM
Okay, this whole telepathy thing is really starting to get old. I liked it better when it was just used for nonoral communication.
...I have no clue what you are talking about. Is this tied to anything in particular cause your context is rather left-field here.
No, I'm just realizing something I should avoid myself.
Note: if you have a race that can read minds, don't have too many of them show up in your story. It's only going to lead to rampant speculation.
I think the thread speaks for itself on the issue.
As for what I mean in using telepathy for nonoral communication, I just mean you can actively send messages to and from a telepath if you put effort into it, but the telepath can't just read your thoughts nonchalantly, like every cubi did in that hallway back in SAIA.
*shrugs* It doesnt bug me so much. I've already said time and time again there's a big difference between thought-reading and flat out mind-reading. If people still want to think otherwise thats their call. It just means they are wrong and I laugh at them from afar. :3
It's still something I should take note of since I want to be a proffessional fantasy writer. I really don't want my readers trying to sift through the meanings and what not. That's one of the things I hate the most about College English classes.
Teacher: "Note the gay undertones in this passage."
Me: "Wait, what?"
Hm, telepathy doesn't make them open beings I suppose. I think the whole point of this is rather similar to a program wherein one can read output from the program, via output logs, save files, debugging tools et cetera but one cannot ascertain the history of it or pick at any of its secrets, one would need the source for that. What does this have to do with anything? Not much.
Anyway, I have to say that this storyline is a little odd for DMFA standard, don't get me wrong I still like it but it seems a little more ... I can't say dark because it's not but perhaps involved than past storylines? I'm not sure what the word is that one would colloquially use in this situation but it's still different.
I'm finding that I like Mab more, and more, and more lately as she has proved to be something of an anchor, everyone's getting involved in this rather portentious storyline and Mab's just ... doing Mab things, I respect her for that.
I hope it doesn't turn out that Mab has a dark history or that Mab'll finally snap and turn into a peculiar Warlord Fae -- not wholly unlike Mr. Mxyzptlk in a certain alternate-Universe Superman storyline -- as that'll just get her noticed by this storyline and I'll have lost my anchor.
Quote from: superluser on December 22, 2006, 12:47:31 AM
It seems unlikely that Biggs would have a mind shield on for years on end, and it also seems highly unlikely that Biggs would put mind shields on his underlings, who would have to interact with Destania every once in a while.
But maybe Biggs' "lucky medallion" is a mind shield amulet.
Manawolf, if the author has no forum, the readers' speculations don't feed off each other and gain a monstrous life of their own. :mowwink
Quote from: Manawolf on December 22, 2006, 02:29:43 AMIt's still something I should take note of since I want to be a proffessional fantasy writer. I really don't want my readers trying to sift through the meanings and what not.
Huh? That's kind of pointless then, isn't it?
Good literature should focus on themes and motifs. See, for example, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man or The Crying of Lot 49.
Good fantasy usually falls into those categories. The Lord of the Rings, Beowulf, Dune, Harry Potter, even the Discworld series all have heavy focus on themes and motifs.
Quote from: Manawolf on December 22, 2006, 02:29:43 AMTeacher: "Note the gay undertones in this passage."
Me: "Wait, what?"
Well, if you're reading Oscar Wilde or Edward Albee, it's probably pretty important to recognize them.
I suppose it's my motivation. I just want to write a story for, well, the story. The actual happenings, not the supposed underlying meaning behind those happenings. I guess it comes with my straightforward attitude. I don't want to jerk around my readers too much.
Quote from: Sid on December 21, 2006, 10:31:28 PM
WHOOHOO! *does the Fa'Lina dance of joy* And is it just me, or did Fa'Lina get at the very least a small graphics update? I think also a minor wardrobe change, if the one strap to the neck piece counts.
Yeah, well wearing the same dress for 9000 years can get a bit old :P
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 21, 2006, 10:58:06 PM
I know what Amber is going to do. Cutscene.
Perhaps. She just did that though. Unless she's going to do the CCTV thing and give each scene a single strip in turn..
Quote from: Fresnor on December 21, 2006, 10:36:13 PM
Hmm, so Pyro and Fa'lina know each other... Just how high ranking is Pyro in the dragon heirarchy anyways? Realy thinking pretty high if those two know each other and are still alive
I'm wondering if he's on the 'cubi side and Abel doesn't know.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on December 21, 2006, 11:58:54 PM
e) There is a long-standing rivary between Cyra clan and Dragons. Perhaps related to this portion of Demo 101: "Those that even bother to associate with other races are usually doing it for their own benefit and it isn't uncommon to hear of how a dragon double-crossed a powerful demon or cubi in order to further its own means."
I'm wondering if it was the dragons who called for the extermination of the 'cubi race as implied by http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_508.php
Even if that's the case, I still find it hard to believe Destania is planning genocide. That's
Abel's Story material. Surely it's something slightly more humane..
QuoteI suppose it's my motivation. I just want to write a story for, well, the story. The actual happenings, not the supposed underlying meaning behind those happenings. I guess it comes with my straightforward attitude. I don't want to jerk around my readers too much.
Don't worry, the underlying meanings don't actually exist.
Or if you'd rather, DO worry, because no matter how straightforward and open you make your writing, someone will be able to deconstruct it into a commentary on the sexual habits of convicted felons.
(As for the comic, I'm guessing Pyro is at the very least out of sight, probably teleported away a short distance. Also, angry Fi is so cool. :giggle)
anyone else noticed the pic from the Nice box for DMFA changed from matilda to regina (even tho the text still refers to matilda)
*speculates*
Quote from: Jack McSlay on December 22, 2006, 04:23:30 AM
anyone else noticed the pic from the Nice box for DMFA changed from matilda to regina (even tho the text still refers to matilda)
*speculates*
I do believe Amber said that the next arcs are Regina's intro and then Mab's own arc. Perhaps it was the other way around; it doesn't really matter since she could just change her mind.
Hmmm... telepathy and species conflict... reminds me of something I can twist. >:3
Pyro in Lab outfit: The cubi seem to use some sort of extrasensory perception, telepathy...
(BEE-WOOP-BEE-WOOP!!)
*In the room, the dragon general, a few officers, and the dragon president come close to the magical restraining shield and sees Pyro hoisted up with a wing tentacle around his neck! Still, he tries to reason with the evil cubi* I know there is much we can learn from each other. Can there be a peace between us?
*cubi, speaking through Pyro* Peace... no peace...
*dragon president* What do you want us to do?
*cubi, through Pyro* Dieeeee... dieeeeee... dieeeee...
*buzzing in president's head!* Aieeeee!
*dragon general* Is that magic shield element-proof?
*dragon officer* No sir! *attack! The Cubi is taken out... but Pyro is already dead* >:3
Independence Day for dragons! :giggle
Quote from: Manawolf on December 22, 2006, 02:29:43 AM
It's still something I should take note of since I want to be a professional fantasy writer. I really don't want my readers trying to sift through the meanings and what not. That's one of the things I hate the most about College English classes.
Teacher: "Note the gay undertones in this passage."
Me: "Wait, what?"
You know what I hate about English class? To Kill a fricking Mockingbird. The book SUCK to the nth degree. I mean, it's a sniveling piece of drivel that is only famous due thousands of English Teachers saying that it's a great piece of literature, WHY? Cause they were told by THERE teachers that it was a great piece of literature? Same with 1984... For gods sakes, it's a fricking book about how much the world can SUCK!!! All the while great books, really in depth books that I would really love to dissect, such as the lord of the rings (which I hate) are ignored! Why? cause it's not a great piece of literature! Why, CAUSE IT ISN'T!!! Or you know what? Fifth Business... English classes take that great book, AND KILLS IT!!! English classes take EVERY great book and kills it. Who here likes Shakespeare, NO ONE? Why? It only reminds us of homework!
When literature becomes work, that's when we fail.
Higher education sucks, and anyone who takes it ends up being nothing more than a sheep. So, Screw you, Manawolf. You want to go out there and create MORE frikkin homework for me. More frikkin stuff for me to read, and I know it's not guaranteed, however, it doesn't matter. Either your stuff will be drivel that will be celebrated, great stuff that will Driven to the ground, or more GOD DAMMED ROMANCE Novels. You know what, I hate romance novels, I've dated too many girls that want the god dammed fantasy. Or you go out like Elizabeth Hayden, create a Mary Sue, and go and ruin more potential toilet paper. Or worse, you'll be GREAT, and thus another cool book that will be nothing but ignored will be created, and another reason for me (and thus everyone else, cause I'm always right) to be pissed at books. So Thank you Manawolf...
BECAUSE OF YOU CHILDREN IN AFRICA CANNOT READ!!!
You didn't really read TKAM, did you? :rolleyes
With all the shape changers and secret identities in the comic, one of the characters in the comic will probably end up with multiple personalities. My main bet is going to be Dan (Danlexsi, Alexsi, Dan, Cubi Dan) :)
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 22, 2006, 06:16:40 AM
You didn't really read TKAM, did you? :rolleyes
Was that a requirement?
Yes, I did, and in all honesty, I did hate it, partially for the reason that I saw nothing worth gushing about, but my teacher treated it as if it were sacra saint. It was more the smug superiority of it all. Outside of that I just considered it an "ok" "slice- of-life" book.
Quote from: Toric on December 21, 2006, 11:47:07 PM
Speculation go!
DMFA Forumites: Because sane predictions are for amateurs.
Well, in that case.... Fa'lina kidnapped Pryo in keeping with the family reunion theme. Yes, that's right- Pryo is really Fa'lina's mother. (Yes, her mom.)
More seriously, do you think Mab actually stuck her hand in the tree, or the weapon she picked up a few comics back?
And even more seriously, Fi doesn't look really angry, but rather tired. Teleporting a dragon against it's will probably isn't easy.
but... as far as I can see, nobody's teleported anywhere or been kidnapped (yet)
It's probably safe to assume Pyro got teleported- Alexsi can't seem to find him, and it's doubtful a warp aci could just knock a dragon off his feet. While it's possible the warp aci and Fa'lina just knocked Pryo over without Alexsi or Mab noticing, that's reeeeeeeally unlikely. A cubi and a warp aci would have a hard time dragging a dragon (and this is just from sheer weight, not assuming anything magical on the dragon's behalf) far enough out of sight from the road (and without causing enough noise to alert Alexsi) that it just would seem stupid if they didn't teleport Pyro (why else bring the warp aci along?).
the look on Pyro's face would've been priceless, needless to say.. Teleportation's the fun alternative to walking.... if you expect it, though..
While Chaos expresses themselves a bit more forcefully than I would, it is a sad fact that any book discussed in school will be destroyed in the process.:cry It is like explaining a joke. Just doesn't work. (The same could be said about comic forums, but lets not go there... :rolleyes)
Which is sad, since reading can be so much fun.
Back to the comic: Neither Fa'Lina nor Pyroduck seem like violent types to me. I think they will have a nice chat over tea and muffins. "Genocide? How vulgar! More tea, dear?"
Do I have to tentcle whip someone or get lioness to do it all...You know she would gladly do so...Crazy how gods/goddesses are now these days
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on December 22, 2006, 08:13:47 AM
While Chaos expresses themselves a bit more forcefully than I would, it is a sad fact that any book discussed in school will be destroyed in the process.
There's a few books I read at school which I thought were kind of cool, even Shakespeare. It depends how the school handles it.
QuoteBack to the comic: Neither Fa'Lina nor Pyroduck seem like violent types to me. I think they will have a nice chat over tea and muffins. "Genocide? How vulgar! More tea, dear?"
Fa'Lina, who wanted to kill Merlitz and laughed about the special incantation ploy? She may or may not be violent in and of herself, but she doesn't seem to care much about Beings...
Scratch that, she was about to deck Abel over Jouster (see http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_425.php - middle pane) .. not someone you want to mess around with :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 22, 2006, 08:32:57 AM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on December 22, 2006, 08:13:47 AM
While Chaos expresses themselves a bit more forcefully than I would, it is a sad fact that any book discussed in school will be destroyed in the process.
There's a few books I read at school which I thought were kind of cool, even Shakespeare. It depends how the school handles it.
QuoteBack to the comic: Neither Fa'Lina nor Pyroduck seem like violent types to me. I think they will have a nice chat over tea and muffins. "Genocide? How vulgar! More tea, dear?"
Fa'Lina, who wanted to kill Merlitz and laughed about the special incantation ploy? She may or may not be violent in and of herself, but she doesn't seem to care much about Beings...
Scratch that, she was about to deck Abel over Jouster (see http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_425.php - middle pane) .. not someone you want to mess around with :B
She does seem to like Wildy though... ( http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_582.php )
Sigh, wish folk would leave poor Pyroduck alone =( Poor guy hasnt done anything but look out for others and is being victimised for his species..
Now i'm looking at Falina unfavorably for the first time in a long time.
*grabs sign and scribbles on it* Save the dragons!
*walks back and forth*
What? No, i dont have personal interests >_>
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 22, 2006, 08:32:57 AM
Fa'Lina, who wanted to kill Merlitz and laughed about the special incantation ploy? She may or may not be violent in and of herself, but she doesn't seem to care much about Beings...
Scratch that, she was about to deck Abel over Jouster (see http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_425.php - middle pane) .. not someone you want to mess around with :B
I don't think Bird-Butt counts as a Being, there. :-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 22, 2006, 08:43:01 AM
I don't think Bird-Butt counts as a Being, there. :-)
Uhh...?
Let me rephrase that:
Fa'lina, upon hearing that Abel broke Jouster, seems to be about to smash Abel's face in, so apparently she
is violent in and of herself. She's also beaten Dan up at least twice...
And she likes people who beats Dan up (aka Wildy). But that does not explain her relationship with Mab in the slightest..
I bet you that it turns out that they ALL are evil, including Amber, and she created this comic for the sole purpose of gaining souls in her quest for world domination. You see, her Canadian manslave... er... sweetheart has turned both unfounded speculation and the short felling of hopes destroyed into a nigh infinite power source. As Long as she keeps us guessing, and keeps us guessing WRONG, the Canadian Military's lone tugboat can upgrade from steam power to the Fandom Drive.
All the while, she laughs all the way to the bank... the soul bank.
Yes, this is the best I could come up with.
I feel shame.
Oh please. We all know that she's keeping all that power for herself. Making Canada a world power doesn't really gain her anything.
Well it does improve her position for her eventual take over of canada
Quote from: terrycloth on December 22, 2006, 04:22:48 AMsomeone will be able to deconstruct it into a commentary on the sexual habits of convicted felons.
Oh, now you're just being mean. Just because Oscar Wilde was convicted...
You know, this is getting a bit off-topic. Maybe we should move this part of the discussion to the new thread that I just created for it in the OT forum (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1804.0).
I knew Falina was up to something she hates Pyro. What I saw her plans are comming together with the help of Destina and Biggs. I knew this from the other thread why Dragons Hate Cubi. My theories are comming true there is goning to be a war comming and the Dragon race will be wiped out if one person will stop it and I will tell you it will be Dan. Dan is the major key that fits in all of this and he's the one to stop this madness.
Right now, I rather see Fa'Lina striking a deal with Pyro to stop the madness. Both Fa'Lina and Pyro are most likely far older than Destania is, so they potentially have more experience and wisdom on their side.
Or they're just going to compare notes. Kinda like "So... what do YOU want from Dan?"
Quote from: superluser on December 21, 2006, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Sid on December 21, 2006, 10:31:28 PMthe adventurers
Ho-lee crap!
This is just prime for awesomeness.
...I really can't tell if I just gave you a brilliant idea or if you're poking fun at my post by just quoting those two words completely out of any context. :. (But if in doubt, my money is on the former guess, so all is well :P)
Quote from: ShiningShadow on December 22, 2006, 01:36:38 PMI knew Falina was up to something she hates Pyro. What I saw her plans are comming together with the help of Destina and Biggs.
Given what we know, I find it hard to believe that Fa'Lina is allied with Destania in this conflict. She knows about the Cyra/dragon feud, but the feud doesn't seem to be affecting her clan. Furthermore, Destania's and Biggs' plan to eliminate the dragons doesn't seem to be widely known, and Dee hasn't been in contact with Fa'Lina.
Waitaminnit. Destania wants to end the dragon race...what if that means the dragon *arms* race? Different clans start employing dragons and suddenly everybody's got dragons just to prove that of you ever used one, there would be mutually assured destruction. Pyro's been employed by a rival clan (that's what those bands tell you), and thus is a danger to Dan. :B
Quote from: ShiningShadow on December 22, 2006, 01:36:38 PMDan is the major key that fits in all of this and he's the one to stop this madness.
DO NOT WANT (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1787.msg73253#msg73253)!
Quote from: Chaos on December 22, 2006, 06:39:07 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 22, 2006, 06:16:40 AM
You didn't really read TKAM, did you? :rolleyes
Was that a requirement?
Yes, I did, and in all honesty, I did hate it, partially for the reason that I saw nothing worth gushing about, but my teacher treated it as if it were sacra saint. It was more the smug superiority of it all. Outside of that I just considered it an "ok" "slice- of-life" book.
Ugh. I have to agree with Chaos here... I also had to read TKaM, and hated it. Same with Animal Farm, The Scarlet Letter, and, more recently, The Jungle. Found all of them rather boring and pointless, and have never understood how they became popular ('Cept for The Jungle - that one is understandable in context, but not in this day and age)
Back on topic, though (sorta..) - Have Fa'Lina's breasts gotten larger? o_0
(Or does the dress just accentuate them more?)
Quote from: terrycloth on December 22, 2006, 04:22:48 AM
QuoteI suppose it's my motivation. I just want to write a story for, well, the story. The actual happenings, not the supposed underlying meaning behind those happenings. I guess it comes with my straightforward attitude. I don't want to jerk around my readers too much.
Don't worry, the underlying meanings don't actually exist.
Or if you'd rather, DO worry, because no matter how straightforward and open you make your writing, someone will be able to deconstruct it into a commentary on the sexual habits of convicted felons.
That's why I hate college level English reading classes so much.
Personally, I found Animal Farm and 1984 scarily realistic.
Or, rather, they pinpointed for me some of the objections that I have to SF and Fantasy. Much of SF&F has the Upright, Stalwart Hero, with His Trusty Sidekick, etc etc, Standing Alone Against The Waves Of Evil Henchmen, yadda yadda. Absolutely everyone visible is either good, honest, and trustworthy, and would never think of cheating, or is actually allied with the big bad dude.
Take, for example, Star Trek. -Everyone- is a believer in Enlightened Self Interest - absolutely nobody, except for the interchangable bad guys (who always kick the bucket at the end of the movie or episode) ever apparently -thinks- of cheating someone else.
Unlike, say, real life, where every third person you meet has an ulterior motive and will knife you in the back to reach it.
I spose in part this is due to, well, how can we reach the stars if we're too busy killing each other, or scrabbling over the pitiful remnants of whatever power is available down here in the Motherwell? If you can't trust the other guy in your tin can to help you out, there's no way we can send anyone out into space... People are, by and large, selfish and self-interested bastards. Expecting otherwise is just asking for trouble. And yet, sales of books that claim otherwise skyrocket.
Pfeh. People. Give me animals anyday. At least they're up front about what they want out of you. (A leg, usually...)
Animal Farm and The Jungle were absolutely amazing. Right now I'm reading Winesburg, Ohio, which is also great.
*Charline sniffs haughtily* A have also read "Animal Farm"... I didn't like it because the pigs eventually became humans. I thought pigs would be quite insulted by that analogy. But the point is quite true. Many social revolutions touting 'social equality' as their main rational eventually turn out just as bad or worse than what existed before. I always love it when people vote for a party for 'change'.. and have absolutely no idea specific changes they want, or what those they elect intend to put into law. Democracy only works in a society of highly educated and informed individuals who are aware of how many factors work together and aren't easly swayed by pomp and flare... which counts the US out.
*Charles, meanwhile, stares at Fa'lina's chest, mesmirized by apparent inflation of more than just currency in recent days...* A-ta! A-ta! :B
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 22, 2006, 02:52:20 PMAnimal Farm and The Jungle were absolutely amazing. Right now I'm reading Winesburg, Ohio, which is also great.
Well, if a moderator is joining in the off-topicness, I suppose I can't be blamed for commenting.
The Jungle was a very good book. I hated it. So much that I never finished it. It just got really really depressing for me, and I couldn't press through it anymore.
1984 was very good, in my opinion. Bits of it were too difficult to empathize with, which keeps me from calling it brilliant, but it was one of the best books of the WWII-Vietnam War era.
gahhh why did that little black thing known as Fi just have to do that.
and so Pyroduck and Falina have met before and know eachother well.
I never really penetrated 1984. Once they got to the book, I kinda dozed off. :<
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 22, 2006, 07:00:34 PM
I never really penetrated 1984. Once they got to the book, I kinda dozed off. :<
*snrk* You said Penetrated. :B
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 22, 2006, 07:02:43 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 22, 2006, 07:00:34 PM
I never really penetrated 1984. Once they got to the book, I kinda dozed off. :<
*snrk* You said Penetrated. :B
Too much eggnog?
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 22, 2006, 07:00:34 PMI never really penetrated 1984. Once they got to the book, I kinda dozed off. :<
Yeah,
the book was one of those things that I mentioned before as difficult to empathize with. There were a few other things that were just difficult to wrap my head around, like anything about the Proles or anything that O'Brien said.
P.S.
(http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/threetelescreens.jpg)
Ooh, thats a good theory.. that Fa'lina maybe trying to prevent any conflict and genocide?
The way she treats Pyro there may be normal.. she treats Dan and Abel like that too..
She is semi-omnipotent and wise.. and i VERY much doupt she's going to kill one of Mabs/Dans friends.
Pwease be on our side to prevent conflict Falina!
Quote from: Kaerou on December 22, 2006, 08:07:01 PMOoh, thats a good theory.. that Fa'lina maybe trying to prevent any conflict and genocide?
Well, I think it's too early to speculate that she'd try to prevent conflict, but I'd bet that she's not going to take any action to encourage it.
Quote from: superluser on December 22, 2006, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Kaerou on December 22, 2006, 08:07:01 PMOoh, thats a good theory.. that Fa'lina maybe trying to prevent any conflict and genocide?
Well, I think it's too early to speculate that she'd try to prevent conflict, but I'd bet that she's not going to take any action to encourage it.
Hey if you really wanna speculate say something like...Maybe shes inviting Pyro for lunch and wants him to join into picnic or something
This is why I prefer converting my enemies as opposed to continuous squabbles every time we meet. It's difficult, but far more rewarding. Then again evil doesn't do that, they corrupt, blackmail and dominate, causing the whole relationship to become hollow.
Make peace, not war...you racists.
Quote from: Zedd on December 22, 2006, 08:38:47 PMHey if you really wanna speculate say something like...Maybe shes inviting Pyro for lunch and wants him to join into picnic or something
Picnic time for Fa'Lina. The aged succubus is having a lovely time today.
Watch her catch him unawares. and see them picnic before genocide.
See them gaily gad about; they love to throw about the magic that they have learned.
At six o'clock, when mommies and daddies are sleeping sound in bed,
the dragons will be taken out.
People seem to have forgotten this page (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_697.php)....
Quote from: TWINK on December 22, 2006, 10:17:52 PMPeople seem to have forgotten this page (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_697.php)....
Not me! I didn't! What was I supposed to have forgotten from that page?
.. that Abel can get Merlitz' stripes to spell out words?
Something which I was pondering upon.
So it's known that there's some sort of beef between the Cubi and Draconic races - yet no real explanation why. We also know that there was a rather violent war between all the Cubi clans - yet no real explanation why.
Consider this.
Dragons at one point in time were the dominant species on the planet - in terms of intelligence, culture and all things magical. Then comes along a race which spontaneously grows wings out of its head and back, and enjoys preying upon mortals, be it for their flesh, fear or other etcetera. No big deal.
Then they start experimenting with magic...they start developing a culture, start gathering knowledge, becoming more and more intelligent - at a very accelerated rate.
The Dragons, of course, are worried. Numerous reasons, but mainly because of their own egotism that they should be the highest on the scale of advanced species - not some upstart society which enjoys such base pleasures such as emotions. So, they start to subtlety sew a few seeds. Seeds of dissent, among the ranks of these new species, these Incubi and Succubi. The Dragons are successful - distrust and paranoia begins to settle in amongst the various clans, and soon before you know it, it's full-fledged war. A war which sets the progress of Cubi on the evolutionary scale of things to a grinding halt.
Eventually, some way or another, it becomes revealed that the Dragons are responsible for the chaos that the Cubi race had gone through. And naturally, they're pissed. They're beyond pissed. They're seething with blind rage. But they're not stupid - no, they know better than to confront the Dragons head-on. So they wait, and they plot. And plan. And wait.
Which brings us to now. An endeavor centuries in the making. It's simple, and it's petty. It's revenge.
Amazing what washing dishes will make you muse upon.
Quote from: ChaoSynergy on December 23, 2006, 12:25:02 AMSo it's known that there's some sort of beef between the Cubi and Draconic races
No, we know that there's some sort of beef between Destania and dragons, and that this feud extends to her nuclear family. It's fair to say that this extends to the entire Cyra clan, but we don't know that.
It's also clear that this feud does not extend to either Abel's or Aary's clans, since Abel expresses no concern for Aary being around dragons, and Fi expresses no concern for Abel being around dragons.
It's unclear where Fa'Lina is on this, but since she didn't try to kill Pyro on the first shot, thus ensuring that she no longer has the element of surprise against a powerful enemy, it's unlikely that she's part of this, either.
Quote from: ChaoSynergy on December 23, 2006, 12:25:02 AMDragons at one point in time were the dominant species on the planet - in terms of intelligence, culture and all things magical. Then comes along a race which spontaneously grows wings out of its head and back, and enjoys preying upon mortals, be it for their flesh, fear or other etcetera.
Well, there were the Angel and Demon races, which don't live quite as long as `Cubi, but still live for a really long time. And the Fae race, which live about as long as dragons.
I dunno about dragons seeding distrust, but I know that the thing did mention that the cubi were "savage" which i supposed explained warring cubi clans.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 23, 2006, 01:30:08 AMI dunno about dragons seeding distrust, but I know that the thing did mention that the cubi were "savage" which i supposed explained warring cubi clans.
So Abel's a thing, now?
Remember--Abel wants people to fear `cubi. Calling them `savage' would fit his idiom, but that doesn't necessarily make it so.
I had a slight possible insight, and although it's probably been discussed elsewhere, I'll plop it out here.
Merl's old party was hired by the Dragons or someone working for the Dragons to find Cubi. Merl's old party found Cubi.
The Dragons have been/are looking for Destania. If my Plot Detector has been fixed (it's probably still malfunctioning), I forsee that Dragons will be in Lost Lake very shortly. Anyone's guess (except Amber, who already knows) what will happen next.
Comments, rebuttals?
-Nar
Quote from: Narethlian on December 23, 2006, 11:54:15 AMMerl's old party was hired by the Dragons or someone working for the Dragons to find Cubi. Merl's old party found Cubi.
Ooh, that's good. Very good. But I think I can improve it.
Merlitz was hired by a Cyra (or perhaps Pyro) to investigate the dragons that hired his old party. Merlitz and the adventurers are now on a collision course.
No matter whose side Fa'Lina's on, and regardless of whatever Danlexsi's doing back at Lost Lake, they are all utterly, absolutely, and irrevocably doomed.
Bwee! Fa'lina's back on the scene :3
Quote from: Gareeku on December 25, 2006, 07:55:56 AM
Bwee! Fa'lina's back on the scene :3
mirth and fluffy pink mayhem, here we come! >:3
Quote from: Zedd on December 25, 2006, 08:03:11 AM
Quote from: Gareeku on December 25, 2006, 08:00:04 AM
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Quote from: Gareeku on December 25, 2006, 07:55:56 AM
Bwee! Fa'lina's back on the scene :3
mirth and fluffy pink mayhem, here we come! >:3
Mwehehehe, oh yes! >:3
Hide me! I know she can smell me lightyears away!
i suggest changing aftershave. :U
Quote from: Turnsky on December 25, 2006, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: Zedd on December 25, 2006, 08:03:11 AM
Quote from: Gareeku on December 25, 2006, 08:00:04 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on December 25, 2006, 07:57:59 AM
Quote from: Gareeku on December 25, 2006, 07:55:56 AM
Bwee! Fa'lina's back on the scene :3
mirth and fluffy pink mayhem, here we come! >:3
Mwehehehe, oh yes! >:3
Hide me! I know she can smell me lightyears away!
i suggest changing aftershave. :U
Well its the only Dr. Who brand after shave....Smells great on other peoples
Here's the masterplan... Fa'lina is trying to arrange for a giant party in which she will spice the punch with Spanish Fly... and a memory erasing drug. the only reason she will do this is to unveil her greatest creation, made from the combination of all those brought to the party. A Half-Celestial-Draconic-Etherial-Fiendish-Were-Zig-Zag-Succubi!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I'll stop now...
ooookaaaay, no more caffeine for you..
It makes me sane.
the attractive Poodle cubi manages to make a comeback...
Well she is back. I will watch my back and i will look at her straight in her eyes. For any reason she doing something insidious then Dan and the rest of the gang will stop Falina once and for all.