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Title: Could I maybe...
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 21, 2006, 05:49:10 PM
I was thinking...sometime down the road I'd like to make a set of card models for the cast of DMFA. (Possibly to be done by the 10th anniversary of DMFA, or maybe strip #1000.) Formatted as PDF files, to be downloaded, printed, cut out, and assembled. What I'd like to know is two things:

* Would I be allowed to do this (with copyright for characters & DMFA noted), or would it be a problem (legal or otherwise)?
* Is anyone interested?
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Supercheese on December 21, 2006, 06:57:14 PM
Hmm, would they have to be printed on special paper? (Card stock or something...)
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 21, 2006, 07:00:16 PM
Personally, I always use 110 lb paper. Some people work with lighter paper, which might be better for the compound curves involved, but wouldn't give you as strong a model.

(Yes, if anyone is interested, I do build models out of paper myself.)
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Rafe on December 21, 2006, 07:02:01 PM
This was done with the characters from David Hopkins' comic Jack, and was extremely successful.

The way it worked was that a fan and collector of Dave's art commissioned him to do a deck of playing cards.  Not just one design for a king, one for a jack, etc - Dave did 54 separate pieces of art, jokers included - no two alike.  He then got them printed, and split the profits of their sale with Dave.

They brought them to Anthrocon and decided to sell them for $10 a pack, which sounded a little high, but they sold so fast, and had so many people asking for them, that they printed anoother batch, upped the price to $15 each, and sold out again. 

Here's what some of them looked like:

(http://24.106.113.210/otown/jackcardsR2.jpg)
(http://24.106.113.210/otown/jackcards2R2.jpg)

Highwing, who commissioned them, printed them on the heavy coated stock they use for cards, and I believe he bought a cutter to do the rounded corners.  If you have any questions, the forum thread is here:

Jack Playing Cards (http://www.pholph.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7818&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

And you can PM Highwing or get his email from the thread.

Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Manawolf on December 21, 2006, 07:25:49 PM
Dude, awesome stuff, Rafe.  I noticed you left out Vanity, then again she is the anti-nymph.
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Zedd on December 21, 2006, 09:18:06 PM
I always did like my ranma 1/2 playing cards
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Amber Williams on December 21, 2006, 09:19:23 PM
The idea of playing cards would be fun. But I'm not sure I'd want to rain on Dave's parade...or how I'd go about doing such a thing.
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Sid on December 21, 2006, 09:23:32 PM
Card game != Card models, if I read the first post correctly. Unless card decks nowadays have to be assembled. Maybe Modelincard can link to examples so we get a better impression of what he has in mind? I'm certainly impressed by the idea (and I still use the bookmarks I once made, so I'm all for paper-work fun), and I'd love to hear more about it!
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Zedd on December 21, 2006, 09:25:09 PM
How come I see Fi as a Joker card...
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 21, 2006, 09:30:39 PM
Yeah, you're right. Playing cards are not the same as card models.

If I'm not here, I might be at:
http://www.cardmodels.net
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net
(http://airlandrail.net/img/CardModels/Airwolf.jpg)
A completed model, for reference.
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Sid on December 21, 2006, 09:45:33 PM
Ah yes, I suspected that you'd mean something like that. Needless to say that you got my interest... o.o
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on December 21, 2006, 09:52:22 PM
3-dimensional models made of paper?  That seems absurdly difficult.
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: Rafe on December 21, 2006, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 21, 2006, 09:19:23 PM
The idea of playing cards would be fun. But I'm not sure I'd want to rain on Dave's parade...or how I'd go about doing such a thing.

Rain on his parade?  You 'd be doing no such thing, and Dave would be the first one to say so.  You aren't copying his artwork, your fans are your fans, and they'd buy them just like Dave's do.  Dave also does commissions, and does a three days a week (or more) comic, like you do - you aren't raining on his parade there.

Cards are just something put your art on, not some copyrighted concept.  And as far as how to do them, I just explained it in my first post.  If someone wants to do it, they can handle the printing and take orders - you do the art, and you divide the profits.  Anyone interested in helping Amber and making a little money yourself? 
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 21, 2006, 10:10:48 PM
you know in Las Vegas the only game  that isn't rigged is poker... and every casino has a deck of cards, a few years back I started collecting them, I had all of the Station casino's and then, I lost them in one of the more than 30 or so moving days, and now all I have are a handful of pokemon cards, decade old magic the gathering cards, dacade old starwars trading cards, some mickey mouse playing  cards, But, I No longer posess my infamous stationhouse casino collection, oh the tragedy, what I could do with another deck of cards that I don't want.


I can wait for the roasting Amber will get for doing such a thing.


Edit: this represents the opinion of a Nevada local who is sick of playing cards in general, and in now way represents or reflects the opinions of others who may actually like the idea.
Title: Re: Could I maybe...
Post by: FlameSword on December 22, 2006, 07:05:56 AM
I think it's a good idea. :mowcookie