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Title: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Nerikull on December 20, 2006, 10:10:17 PM
Oh, SNAP! How do you explain that in the middle of battle?

Will this get Devin killed?
Will it help them live through this?

Discuss!
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: familyghost on December 20, 2006, 10:14:03 PM
My guess is cubi heritage mixed with magic lessons are coming to fruition...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Zedd on December 20, 2006, 10:15:53 PM
Hmmmmm I can only say..Welp ..I told you all not to hold your breaths
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 20, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
Yeah...I think I stopped breathing momentarily when I saw that...easier to breathe before that.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Aisha deCabre on December 20, 2006, 10:20:09 PM
WOO!  Finally the head-wings make an appearance!   :boogie

In other opinions...dang, Amber's good at killing us to near-death with cliffhangers.   :U  Awesome work...and man...this must be interesting for Devin: "We've got evil Creatures shooting at us and I've got a Cubi right in front of me..."  :erk
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Azlan on December 20, 2006, 10:25:20 PM
I'm fairly sure Glory can handle whatever that is, reasonably well... or maybe not, who can say?  Well only the Wiku one, but that would be telling definitely.


Headwings are cute though.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Sid on December 20, 2006, 10:26:50 PM
...I first thought that those were freaking HEARTS floating around. Memo to self: Don't check the comic at 4.25am anymore X_X;;;

On-topic: Yay! Headwings! Abel looks SO much better with them! :boogie ...it totally doesn't help that I got the theme song from the 90s Outer Limits stuck in my head right now... so fitting...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Snap on December 20, 2006, 10:27:32 PM
Oh well, seeing how calm and rational Abel is at the moment, he will have no problems at all explaining it to Devin (who of course has been his friend for a very long time) and the others.....

:erk

...

...Please Amber, just dont hurt them (too much).... :cry pretty please?
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Azlan on December 20, 2006, 10:30:22 PM
It is important to note that Abel doesn't know what he is at the moment.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Kasarn on December 20, 2006, 10:41:03 PM
Hey guys, I totally Photoshopped it so it looks gay

CHECK IT OUT! (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel62.jpg) :P
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Landon_Fox on December 20, 2006, 10:41:57 PM
Azlan has a point.  And I somehow doubt that the paladin is going to be sympathetic, given the circumstances, time period, and fact that she is a paladin.

The automatic "must smite cubi" reaction may give him his fear of beings.

Or...  if Devin turns on him, that could do it too.

Either way, we know that Abel is afraid of showing his cubi heritage.  That happens when people get burned.  It's why gay people want to stay in the closet rather than face the public stigma.  So the real question is not if, but when, who, and how Abel will get pummeled by this.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 20, 2006, 10:44:59 PM
I have a feeling that Devin knows enough mythology that he'll be able to use Abel as a meat shield.

Devin: Look, Abel.  This is gonna be hard to take, but you're an incubus, and that means that you're magic resistant.  If you make a run for it right now, we can make it out of here.  Spread your wings and pace yourself to me, and we'll both make it out of here alive.  Glory's gonna be after you because she thinks you're a monster.  We're not going to stop until we reach Zinvth.

Quote from: Sid on December 20, 2006, 10:26:50 PMI got the theme song from the 90s Outer Limits stuck in my head right now

Funny, I've got the intro to The Prisoner stuck in my head:

Quote from: Azlan on December 20, 2006, 10:25:20 PMthat would be telling

Who's on the roof?
The New Number Two...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: RushFox on December 20, 2006, 10:46:18 PM
:erk Suddenly, I'm feeling real sorry for Abel right now. This is the worst place for it to happen too...  :<

Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on December 20, 2006, 10:47:23 PM
Oh schnap! :O
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Snap on December 20, 2006, 10:53:54 PM
Please no killing of likable-just-introduced characters... Looking at the cover page, now would be a good time for the "sunshine and chocolate dip cookies"  :mowmeep....

Still my personal guess is that Devin is not gonna backstab poor confused ("I have wings coming out of my head, i have every right to be upset") Abel. "Word on the street" aside, he just shared a sepia toned flashback! Thats gotta mean something, right?
RIGHT?

Edit:
Quote from: Kasarn on December 20, 2006, 10:41:03 PM
Hey guys, I totally Photoshopped it so it looks gay

CHECK IT OUT! (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel62.jpg) :P
Alright.... i DO know that Abel really likes bananas
but give Devin a break! He just saw his partner being struck down by a firespell/arrow... And i dont think he has the jyrras  :hug syndrome  :)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Saist on December 20, 2006, 10:56:01 PM
Kill them ALL Abel! Go Cubi on their rumps!
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Narethlian on December 20, 2006, 10:56:59 PM
*Cues dramatic music*

*Deep announcer's voice* Will our Hero escape this situation with his head and both sets of wings intact?  Find out on the Next 'Abel's Story'!

This is fun waiting and watching for the next with bated breath.

-Nar

Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 20, 2006, 10:59:40 PM
Here's a thought.

Is it a cubi on the roof? Fa'Lina, perhaps?

Hmmm. Thinks, thinks, thinks. Who knows? (well, other than Amber, obviously...)

We shall have to wait and see....
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 20, 2006, 11:00:22 PM
It looks like Abel needs a hug.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Azlan on December 20, 2006, 11:00:56 PM
Quote from: modelincard on December 20, 2006, 11:00:22 PM
It looks like Abel needs a hug.

I volunteer for the hugging!
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Kenji on December 20, 2006, 11:02:54 PM
"They're, umm.... reindeer antlers."
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: KarlOmega1 on December 20, 2006, 11:12:19 PM
Devin: Abel...do you know that you have wings on your head?

Abel: I have WHAT?!

(oh man, this is gonna be classic)

Edit> I still think that black and purple thing is an Warp-aci...only this time I think it's trying to do that "teleport" thing on Abel...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 20, 2006, 11:12:39 PM
I suspect the "other" effect of Abel's heritige has made Devin...like Jyrras feel something.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Regal on December 20, 2006, 11:14:01 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on December 20, 2006, 11:02:54 PM
"They're, umm.... reindeer antlers."

Abel the chocolate chip reindeer,
grew a pair of shiny head wings,
and when Devin saw them,
he started thinking naughty things...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Zedd on December 20, 2006, 11:15:46 PM
Quote from: Regal on December 20, 2006, 11:14:01 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on December 20, 2006, 11:02:54 PM
"They're, umm.... reindeer antlers."

Abel the chocolate chip reindeer,
grew a pair of shiny head wings,
and when Devin saw them,
he started thinking naughty things...

My god that fitted
Title: Abel 12/21/06 : Headwings... ahoy!
Post by: Madd the Sane on December 20, 2006, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Kasarn on December 20, 2006, 10:41:03 PM
Hey guys, I totally Photoshopped it so it looks gay

CHECK IT OUT! (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel62.jpg) :P
:mowdizzy  :mowdizzy I don't see a difference between this one and the one on the site.
...
...
...
waitaminute!  They are the same!  Silly me.

And the headwings can also explain the tears in his eyes:  Remember, Dan was having headaches before he got his headwings.

Quote from: FireKatKid on December 20, 2006, 11:02:54 PM
"They're, umm.... reindeer antlers."
"...Yeah, you see, I'm 1/96th reindeer from my... mother's side. yeah."

Poor Abel.  This has got to be the worst day of his life:  he lost his lunch in the river, was attacked by an unknown force, unknown force killed possible friend, and now he has these strange things coming out of his head.  And it all started with Devin.  :paranoid :C
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: rt on December 20, 2006, 11:27:11 PM
An explanation for glory .. more sarcasm should do the trick .. just like

http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_57.php

.. I mean come now glory .. you didn't notice the wings comming out of Abel's head before .. they just pop'd up in the battle with all the excitement  :mwaha

As for now .. run now .. explain later.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: RJ on December 20, 2006, 11:38:20 PM
Yay for inappropriate moments! At least he won't have to worry so much about the awkwardness and all since they're about to be fried >_>
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Starcat5 on December 20, 2006, 11:48:16 PM
Abel has headwings now:
:ddrabel



Timing:
:omg



Amber:
:tohell



I think that sums everything up. I'd comment more, but I need to be at work in an hour.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 20, 2006, 11:49:03 PM
Quote from: Snap on December 20, 2006, 10:53:54 PM"Word on the street" aside, he just shared a sepia toned flashback! Thats gotta mean something, right?
RIGHT?

Right.  There's still the unresolved question of why Devin's mom denounced him right before she died.  If Devin dies, it becomes unlikely that we will find out the answer.

Quote from: Narethlian on December 20, 2006, 10:56:59 PM*Deep announcer's voice*

Will our trusty adventurers  make it to safety before the cart is destroyed?  Don't miss our next episode: Head Wings, Will Travel or: Fa'Lina off the Wagon!

--Ponsonby Britt
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Zorro on December 21, 2006, 12:15:40 AM
Remember what Cubi Feed on.

Abel might be particularly strong right now.  Like a fear and pain fed Ramjet.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Manawolf on December 21, 2006, 12:25:02 AM
Just run to be safe.  You are unsure what side he would be on, but right now, you have bigger problems.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Madmann135 on December 21, 2006, 01:20:50 AM
from what I understand Abel's emotion of choice is confusion.  Which would explain why he's such a complicated charactor.

Now I serously doubt that Abel's headwings are going to make a diffrence at the moment.  Abel's going to be in a panicked state for atleast 15 more minutes (in one way or the other) due to all the excitement going on and the recent heritage revilation.  I mean if I was him I would probably go insane, being hemophobic, seeing someone die, getting shot at and having wings grow out of your head all within 1 minute would send a good number of people into a stress induced coma.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Headwings... ahoy!
Post by: LionHeart on December 21, 2006, 01:45:52 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on December 20, 2006, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Kasarn on December 20, 2006, 10:41:03 PM
Hey guys, I totally Photoshopped it so it looks gay

CHECK IT OUT! (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel62.jpg) :P
:mowdizzy  :mowdizzy I don't see a difference between this one and the one on the site.
...
...
...
waitaminute!  They are the same!  Silly me.

That's a relief. I was afraid it was just me.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Madd the Sane on December 21, 2006, 02:06:49 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on December 21, 2006, 01:20:50 AM...being hemophobic, seeing someone die, getting shot at and having wings grow out of your head all within 1 minute would send a good number of people into a stress induced coma.
I believe I already said something similar. I feel so... overlooked  :cry

I know this is totally off-topic, but which comic is this from:
Quote from: starcat5 on December 20, 2006, 11:48:16 PM
...
Amber:
:tohell
...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: MaskedRetriever on December 21, 2006, 02:33:47 AM
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_225.php

This was about the point the comic went from "really damn good" to "holy cow my brains are exploding with awesome" if you ask me.

Because I'm a Cubi-holic.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: terrycloth on December 21, 2006, 03:54:59 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on December 21, 2006, 01:20:50 AM
Now I serously doubt that Abel's headwings are going to make a diffrence at the moment.  Abel's going to be in a panicked state for atleast 15 more minutes (in one way or the other) due to all the excitement going on and the recent heritage revilation.  I mean if I was him I would probably go insane, being hemophobic, seeing someone die, getting shot at and having wings grow out of your head all within 1 minute would send a good number of people into a stress induced coma.

Not to mention that since he's coming into his cubi powers, he's also being effectively emotion-jammered by the sudden shock and fear all the adventurers felt at the time of the attack. THAT's why he's been such a basket case. :mowdizzy
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 04:25:57 AM
Oh my.  Devin's worst fears just came true I think, and most likely Abel's as well.  Does Devin even know about 'cubi, though?

As for those who think he's going to go one some kind of soul bender, bear in mind that soul-stealing is almost certainly something that you need to learn.

While Devin's almost certainly dead by the current DMFA timeline (unless he is a Creature also), it's more likely that the misery on the cover is related to his parents.  Remember, he might be 100 or more when that picture was taken.
What are they going to do when their son comes back with headwings?  How would your parents react?  Bear in mind no-one has mentioned 'cubi at all in the strip so far.. I don't think they know about them.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Magic on December 21, 2006, 04:45:32 AM
Oh my. Oh my. Heh. Heheh--
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: MT Hazard on December 21, 2006, 05:14:43 AM
Plus points for Abel: doesn't despise creatures so is less likely to have a Dan like reaction.
His family love him so will cope, one way or another.

Negative points for Abel: No adventurer training, the most Dangerous this that's likely to have happen to him recently is a paper cut.

It would be traumatising if this happened when somebody wasn't trying to kill him, now its worse.

No over bearing teacher/cubi pride supporter to ask questions to and shout out.

Little chance of seeing this coming (unlike Dan who had every chance he just wasn't paying attention/denied it. )

Do Cubi ever fight/kill their own species? (apart from misunderstandings) I have this image of Abel being dragged away by his would be killer and telling the others at SAIA they found an 'adorable and lost incubi' while Abel is going insane though panic.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 05:20:21 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on December 21, 2006, 05:14:43 AM
Do Cubi ever fight/kill their own species?

Yes.  There are or have been wars between the clans - the fact that Fa'Lina had to negotiate a truce while on Holy Ground Academy premises is pretty damning evidence of that.

QuoteI have this image of Abel being dragged away by his would be killer and telling the others at SAIA they found an 'adorable and lost incubi' while Abel is going insane though panic.
Unlikely.  Cute image, though.  (I suspect the attackers may be demons rather than 'cubi)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Turnsky on December 21, 2006, 06:03:22 AM
hrm... what'd be a good excuse.. oh i know!

"they're the absolute latest in cool headgear, they much my colors well, don't you think?... they also get -great- cable reception"...

but really... bad timing? or something rather fortuitous?.. we'll see..  :)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: bill on December 21, 2006, 06:31:51 AM
Right, who dies? Anyone care to set up a pool?
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 06:32:59 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 21, 2006, 06:31:51 AM
Right, who dies? Anyone care to set up a pool?
$50 says Abel survives :P
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Kaerou on December 21, 2006, 06:33:24 AM
Wheee... what timing!  I love it! *snicker* :>

Though at first, i thought that he was having a charm spell cast on him to get im moving, till i looked at the next panel..!
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Snap on December 21, 2006, 06:38:48 AM


Quote from: starcat5 on December 20, 2006, 11:48:16 PM
{smilies}
Dont forget that Amber has been there - done that:
(http://mitglied.lycos.de/colorbysnap/dandoesntwanttohitongirls.jpg)
("that" being playing hockey probably)
Also, that post just made me click the [more] link for the smileys  :boogie...
(http://mitglied.lycos.de/colorbysnap/feelhappy.jpg)
Its cool to see that im not the only one who thought the Abel dance poses deserved an animation :)
(http://mitglied.lycos.de/colorbysnap/Abel%20Banner.gif)

also...

Quote from: MT Hazard on December 21, 2006, 05:14:43 AM
Do Cubi ever fight/kill their own species?

(http://mitglied.lycos.de/colorbysnap/blablabla.jpg)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Sunny on December 21, 2006, 07:13:47 AM
Haha, how did I know that 'OH SNAP' would be the first words on the thread? Haha...

All I have to say is that this will be pretty darn interesting to see concluded!
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 21, 2006, 07:16:48 AM
Right now there's power coming from Abel and it's something that he cannot control. Hmmmmmmmmmm Abel is ready to kick serious ass with the head wings appearing. Or killing Devin in the process who knows what direction will Amber story put us in. I hope he will has something very cool like Inferno or Blizzaga or my fave summon a Guardian Force *YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH* I love sensless violence.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Stig Hemmer on December 21, 2006, 07:34:53 AM
Abel is pretty much out of it, I am afraid... but there are other capable people around.

The reaction I expect from Devin is "An incubus? Oh, you can take care of yourself." and then leaving him there. Of course, a being running in zig zag away from the wagon will draw attention away from Abel, but I doubt he will see it that way.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: bigj on December 21, 2006, 07:56:53 AM
Well, their friendship wasn't awkward enough before now.  :mowtongue
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 08:17:24 AM
Since this is turning out to be a rather media-rich Abel's story thread, I figured I'd post this quick hack since it's rather apropos:
http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/test/wdathw4.mp3


Quote from: Stig Hemmer on December 21, 2006, 07:34:53 AM
Abel is pretty much out of it, I am afraid... but there are other capable people around.
The reaction I expect from Devin is "An incubus? Oh, you can take care of yourself." and then leaving him there.
I'm not sure Glory will see it that way, even if Devin does (IIRC he vowed to protect Beings, not Creatures)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: janusmaxwell on December 21, 2006, 09:13:25 AM
Aw hell.  Flip out on able for being an incubus in 3.........2.........1.........
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 21, 2006, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 04:25:57 AMAs for those who think he's going to go one some kind of soul bender, bear in mind that soul-stealing is almost certainly something that you need to learn.

Well, `learn' is probably relative, here.

It's probably similar to something like eating or walking.  Babies learn that stuff pretty well on their own, but as anyone who has seen parents trying to feed a baby knows, that doesn't mean that you can do at all without loads of practice.

Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 06:32:59 AM$50 says Abel survives :P

Ten cents says Abel dies.  Hey, the odds are probably a million to one, which means that I'd get $100,000.  Who's gonna pass that up?

Quote from: Stig Hemmer on December 21, 2006, 07:34:53 AMThe reaction I expect from Devin is "An incubus? Oh, you can take care of yourself." and then leaving him there.

And lose his magic-resistant meat shield?
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: MaskedRetriever on December 21, 2006, 10:16:20 AM
My money's currently on the paladin eating it and Devin living at ~least~ long enough to complicate things a lot.

Especially since with that blue fur he could be related to Destina...

Actually he could theoretically BE Destina...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AM
Quote from: superluser on December 21, 2006, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 04:25:57 AMAs for those who think he's going to go one some kind of soul bender, bear in mind that soul-stealing is almost certainly something that you need to learn.

Well, `learn' is probably relative, here.

It's probably similar to something like eating or walking.  Babies learn that stuff pretty well on their own, but as anyone who has seen parents trying to feed a baby knows, that doesn't mean that you can do at all without loads of practice.

Quite.  Learning to walk is a good analogy, since it takes a long time.  Abel has a few minutes (or seconds) to learn if he's going to use any advanced 'cubi stuff.

Quote
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on December 21, 2006, 07:34:53 AMThe reaction I expect from Devin is "An incubus? Oh, you can take care of yourself." and then leaving him there.

And lose his magic-resistant meat shield?
I don't think Devin knows that Abel is the main character  >:3

As an adventurer, Devin knows that 'cubi/demons/angels can die by normal means (e.g. arrows) and that whatever Abel is, he won't have control of any of his innate powers yet.  I'd imagine that if Kria taught him any countermagic or shield spells he would have used them when the fireballs first came.
So yeah, he might make a good meat shield, but he'd have to be carried after the first hit or so.  (Why can't I do that in Deus Ex or Thief?)

Quote from: MaskedRetriever on December 21, 2006, 10:16:20 AM
My money's currently on the paladin eating it and Devin living at ~least~ long enough to complicate things a lot.
Especially since with that blue fur he could be related to Destina...  Actually he could theoretically BE Destina...
Yeah, Amber's already denied that though, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 21, 2006, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: MaskedRetriever on December 21, 2006, 10:16:20 AMActually he could theoretically BE Destina...

Yeah, with Biggs' comment about how Destania's been a friend of the family for generations, I'm half-expecting her and a San to show up in this arc.

Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AMAs an adventurer, Devin knows that 'cubi/demons/angels can die by normal means (e.g. arrows) and that whatever Abel is, he won't have control of any of his innate powers yet.  I'd imagine that if Kria taught him any countermagic or shield spells he would have used them when the fireballs first came.

Well, I don't know that the creature would have conventional ranged weapons.

The magical resistance didn't sound like something that you could control--more like the Meissner effect where it's an artefact of being a superconductor.

It appears, however, that the magical resistance comes from this post (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1709.msg68711#msg68711), and not from Amber or Fluffy, so I'm going to have to retract my speculation along these lines.

Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AMSo yeah, he might make a good meat shield, but he'd have to be carried after the first hit or so.

There was a D&D game where one of the characters was being a total jerk, so with the DM's approval, one of my friends tried to sacrifice him to a god of blood.  He critically failed.

The best part, however, was that the critical failure meant that the god now required regular sacrifice of this jerk character's blood.  Which meant that he couldn't die.  So they shoved him on a pole and carried him around as a literal meat shield.

(Someone needs to keep reminding me not to try ``I am the very model of a modern feline incubus.''  I can't get past the first stanza.)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Alondro on December 21, 2006, 10:54:42 AM
*Charline smiles*  Ah, excellent.  Now the REAL trauma begins!   >:3  Devin's just had a good friend killed, now the most feared and powerful (and perfect, like me) of all creature races appears right in front of him!  I forsee so much pain and suffering!  My heart is pounding with the thrill of it all!   :boogie  Suffer Abel!  SUFFER!!!  And provide me with POWER!!  BWAH HA HA HA!!   :mwaha

*Charles erks..*  Heart... attack!  Too much plot... in one week!   *collapses*  :dribble
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: superluser on December 21, 2006, 10:48:34 AM
It appears, however, that the magical resistance comes from this post (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1709.msg68711#msg68711), and not from Amber or Fluffy, so I'm going to have to retract my speculation along these lines.

He's demonstrated resistance to fire and Dan reckoned Fa'lina had "resistance to the elements" during his kidnap.  But that was after ~370 years of SAIA.
Thinking about it, if 'cubi came out-of-the-box with magic or fire resistance, it would be a good way to tell them apart.*

QuoteThe best part, however, was that the critical failure meant that the god now required regular sacrifice of this jerk character's blood.  Which meant that he couldn't die.  So they shoved him on a pole and carried him around as a literal meat shield.
Fantastic!  That's just the sort of thing I'd try to do..


*e.g. if you can't singe the fur on their wrist/hair etc they're not a Being.  Setting their whole body alight would get through a lot of innocent Beings before you found a Creature...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 21, 2006, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 11:26:13 AM*e.g. if you can't singe the fur on their wrist/hair etc they're not a Being.

Bah.  I thought you meant something like the lake test, where you tie stones to a suspected witch and throw her into a lake.  If she floats, she's a witch, and if she drowns, she gets a Christian funeral.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: AndersW on December 21, 2006, 11:45:05 AM
Abel says he is Element resistant in comic #667 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_667.php)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 21, 2006, 11:58:40 AM
Quote from: AndersW on December 21, 2006, 11:45:05 AMAbel says he is Element resistant in comic #667 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_667.php)

Well, there's a difference between element resistant and magic resistant.  If you cast fire at an element resistant creature, that's one thing, but if you cast Magic Missile or Ultima (from Final Fantasy) or Charm, you would probably succeed.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Manawolf on December 21, 2006, 12:36:40 PM
Problems is, a lot of creatures are both element and magic resistant.  The magic resistance is easy to overcome in a fair fight, but elemental resistance is really dependent on the race, or if you prepared the right spell.  Of course, like most races, it would take time for that resistance to build it, it doesn't just happen.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 21, 2006, 12:40:07 PM
I completely forgot that Element resistance. So all elements is ineffectual to Abel but what about Dark, Holy hmmmmmmmmmmmmm what else should I throw at Abel.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: AndersW on December 21, 2006, 12:42:23 PM
From Amber's rant, "I'll try to get some sort of comical filler where I've set myself on fire up...or maybe some sappy mistle-toe kissy picture of a couple (any suggestions?)"

I would suggest Alexsi and Pyroduck for the sappy mistle-toe kissy picture of a couple.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Manawolf on December 21, 2006, 12:43:14 PM
Hm, cubi were originally a form of demon, thus stuff like holy water would be effective.  Now Amber has made them Angel/Demon hybrids, so either they've taken on both weaknesses, or neither.  But like I said, he may have learned some magic, but he probably hasn't gained the resistances yet.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 21, 2006, 12:44:27 PM
I second that for the Alexsi and Pyro kissing under missletoe.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Zedd on December 21, 2006, 12:44:37 PM
Unlike me...I still have this weakness always being burned...*headwing twiches*
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Regal on December 21, 2006, 12:59:59 PM
There could be a difference between resistant and immune.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 21, 2006, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AM
Quite.  Learning to walk is a good analogy, since it takes a long time.  Abel has a few minutes (or seconds) to learn if he's going to use any advanced 'cubi stuff.

Seconds. Less than 20, I'd guess, judging from the count Devin gave, and the hole poked in the wagon behind them a moment ago.

Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AM
So yeah, he might make a good meat shield, but he'd have to be carried after the first hit or so.  (Why can't I do that in Deus Ex or Thief?)

Why do I have a mental image of someone being nailed to a shield by an arrow... and then being carried around by the brute wearing the shield? :-)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Alablast on December 21, 2006, 03:32:37 PM
:O  Abel got headwings... wait... does this mean he's actually a 'cubi?  *shocked*


I think Glory will hold off on killing Abel.  She probably thought he was the bad guy from the start; she held off because Devin vouched for him.  Even though he has two sets of wings now, she'll probably keep him alive if Devin says he's a good guy still...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Drake Manaweilder on December 21, 2006, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: Alablast on December 21, 2006, 03:32:37 PM
:O Abel got headwings... wait... does this mean he's actually a 'cubi? *shocked*


I think Glory will hold off on killing Abel. She probably thought he was the bad guy from the start; she held off because Devin vouched for him. Even though he has two sets of wings now, she'll probably keep him alive if Devin says he's a good guy still...

Well what about the whole "Adventurer Racism" thing? I doubt that Dan is the only one who would have it.

Glory: "He has the potential to kill many people, and to do far worse, so we must kill him"

Of course he'll escape somehow, but he's still in being territory. Meaning that very few people are going to be friendly towards him. perhaps this is how he'll get "adopted" by Fa'lena.(yes, yes i suck at remembering how to spell names) He may not want to go home for fear of what his parents would think, Fa'lena/somebody else from SAIA runs into him, and upon hearing his story thus far, takes him to the academy.

This is likely about to get blown to pieces by somebody but this is my guess.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on December 21, 2006, 04:07:15 PM
Well what about the whole "Adventurer Racism" thing? I doubt that Dan is the only one who would have it.
Indeed.  I'm thinking Devin will prevent Glory from doing anything.  He's defended him once before... perhaps to make up for the rocks.

Today is proving to be a total mind____ for Abel.. he's just seen his childhood friend buried, been shot at by his childhood enemy who then protects him from other adventurers only to be attacked by monsters, see his childhood enemy's friend/lover die, then he get a pair of wings bursting from his head and now he's quite likely to discover that 6-year old Devin was right and he IS demonspawn!

Quoteperhaps this is how he'll get "adopted" by Fa'Lina.(yes, yes i suck at remembering how to spell names) He may not want to go home for fear of what his parents would think, Fa'lena/somebody else from SAIA runs into him, and upon hearing his story thus far, takes him to the academy.

My money's on him making it home.  The local doctor in Zinvfth might pass him onto a 'cubi and thence SAIA, but according to Amber SAIA isn't on the lookout for young 'cubi unless they're recommended.  See our nice wiki :P
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: TheDXM on December 21, 2006, 04:22:57 PM
No. Abel's just hitting cubi puberty. So we're all gonna need angst shields soon.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Zedd on December 21, 2006, 05:05:25 PM
Im sure answers will be noted and doted forever
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 21, 2006, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 21, 2006, 04:19:47 PMToday is proving to be a total mind____ for Abel..

Heh.  One more reason to let time pass between strips.

It seems that headwings come out during times of intense emotion.  I suppose that makes sense.  Since `cubi feed on emotions, and if you're giving off that much emotional energy, you would probably want to get all the emotions that you can, and I'm sure that headwings would help gather those emotions.

Still, he didn't get his wings after denying that he was an incubus, so I guess that rules that stupid theory (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1684.msg67368#msg67368) out.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Stygian on December 21, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
Heeeeey, here's a world of hurt! What if, and I'm just being silly here, what if that thing that's attacking the village is another cubi, who is the one who gets to bring Abel to SAIA, and thus starts off his life of an asshat?

I know, but you haven't exactly been more creative than that...
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Boog on December 21, 2006, 07:34:07 PM
Ohhh that'll ruin your day. That's why he's been so weepy and sensitive, his new powers are kicking in. Bad time for that to kick in is in a combat situation where there's already been a casualty. He's feeling everyone's stress and panic and Devins grief. And he's got magical powers he can't use yet, and people think a creature killed a bunch of folks.
...
Wow. That's a bad day. That's a really bad day. And now after this, Glory is going to show up and want him dead when she sees he's a cubi.

Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: topher chee on December 21, 2006, 07:48:18 PM
i think this also might be when Abel gets all them swords ^^
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: THiN on December 21, 2006, 08:06:38 PM
Those are obviously latent Bishounen sparklies manifesting themselves around him.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Kenji on December 21, 2006, 08:11:36 PM
Quote from: THiA on December 21, 2006, 08:06:38 PM
Those are obviously latent Bishounen sparklies manifesting themselves around him.

We'll know for sure if after the battle takes place, or before Abel fights, if at all, there are rose hips or cherry blossom petals in the air.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Aleolus on December 21, 2006, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: familyghost on December 20, 2006, 10:14:03 PM
My guess is cubi heritage mixed with magic lessons are coming to fruition...

...Except that Abel doesn't have any cubi heritage.  His mother was normal, and his father was an adventurer.  Unless his mother really did stray, which is entirely possible after how she reacted to the implied accusation of such by the teacher, then Abel is a first-generation cubi, just reaching maturity.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: superluser on December 21, 2006, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on December 21, 2006, 09:48:14 PM...Except that Abel doesn't have any cubi heritage.  His mother was normal, and his father was an adventurer.  Unless his mother really did stray, which is entirely possible after how she reacted to the implied accusation of such by the teacher, then Abel is a first-generation cubi, just reaching maturity.

I dunno.  Consensus seems to be that she either knowingly strayed or that she was unwittingly taken by an incubus in Cid's form.

I'm with the latter camp, speculating that she figured it out later, and that's why she's so pissed at the teacher's accusation.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: TheDXM on December 22, 2006, 11:54:49 AM
It seems I was probably right on my previous prediction, now that I think about it. Now, a question I pose: Do (half)-dragons typically have some sort of familiarness with invisibility? Or an inherent ability that allows them to hide in plain sight?
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Nullcast on December 22, 2006, 12:19:33 PM
Abel?  Why do you have Bishi sparkles?
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: thegayhare on December 22, 2006, 12:51:04 PM
I'm still of the opinion that May is a cubi .

now for the current situation  I think the attackers are either dragons in humaniod form or dragon worshipers (It was mentioned by Mab that some dragons had some religion form around them)

they are here searching for a succubus that disaapeared in this area years ago,  maybe the survivor of some dragon massacere, maybe a theif or double crosser who cheated a dragon.  But she went to ground in this area and the dragons never forget a debt.  May said Cid had protected and saved the villiage several times before,  Baybe those attackes were forey's by the same group.  May felt to scared to leave and possibly get caught in the open,  and when she had a family she was to scared to stay since that would mean her family was in danger.   For the most part dragons and cubi can take the long road with plans,  they've got years and years to play with so it wouldn't be imposible for  a search to still be going on.  The dragons wouldn't know that she'd left, so the attacks would continue and the latest sting of murders mentioned might have involved kidnappings and torture, the dragons learning of a boy born with wings some years back, of the adventureres family, locating there cubi target.

So all this would go to show the whys of some of Abels personality quirks,  His paranioa at the outside world, his voilent hate of dragons (the extreamity is outside the cubi norm I'm guessing), and his loathing for  those who hide what they are (his mothers disguise and years in hiding let countless others die in her place)
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Mel Dragonkitty on December 22, 2006, 01:01:46 PM
It's Destaina's pain and torture class on a fieldtrip. Tomorrow's strip will start with "Now class pay attention while I... hey, you, spotty cubi, get over here with the rest of the class."
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 22, 2006, 01:06:01 PM
Who knows what's with Abel and those headwings. So the magic he has learned will be powered up by 2. I don't know if anybody has the answer just answer it thanks.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: TWINK on December 22, 2006, 03:25:14 PM
Headwings ftw,
But I feel sorry for Abel, 'cause until now he's been just sitting there with big, scared eyes for like 5 pages.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Zedd on December 22, 2006, 03:29:51 PM
*floofs my headwings abit* No wonder why he was suprized...This whole head wing bit was a shocker to him
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Fex on December 22, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
How can you be chocked if you get headwings? I would dance the happy chibi dance then.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: Aridas on December 22, 2006, 06:39:49 PM
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even notice he has them yet. He's still worried about dying, after all.
Title: Re: Abel 12/21/06 : Umm..what are those?
Post by: TWINK on December 22, 2006, 09:44:50 PM
At that point I wouldn't much care if I got ass-wings.