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Title: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: superluser on December 04, 2006, 09:10:04 PM
...it's neuter, though, so it should be ``scutum sanctum''--holy shi--eld.

Looks like Glory's not being bad, after all.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Zedd on December 04, 2006, 09:14:12 PM
You would all like to think that dont ya *smirks coyly*
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: superluser on December 04, 2006, 09:23:01 PM
You know, Devin really seemed to know what that spell was all about.  And also seemed to know why Glory was out there before.  It's almost as if he knows the ways of the paladin...

(I'll let you in on a little secret--I hate starting these threads because it makes me feel like I'm in a race, and doesn't give me enough time to collect my thoughts.  But I had my Latin dictionary right there...)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Zedd on December 04, 2006, 09:25:16 PM
Yay for research! But its half odvious what the spell was...But I tell you my father was a plaliadin...If you wanna know more..Drop me a line :)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Akisohida on December 04, 2006, 09:27:21 PM
Yay for combat! Also, I LOVE the donation counter for this month! EEEEEE for Matty and Dan! ^.^ *Does the Foxspider Dance Of Joy* :boogie :eager :bunny :ipod
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Roureem Egas on December 04, 2006, 09:36:58 PM
I'm a bit surprised that Devin referred to Abel as a friend. Beyond that, I don't have much to say. :/

Damn essays.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Caswin on December 04, 2006, 09:48:34 PM
This is just me talking here, but... I predict that someone's gonna die.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: superluser on December 04, 2006, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: Zedd on December 04, 2006, 09:25:16 PMBut its half odvious what the spell was...

-secut- in Latin tends to imply action.  That and you don't tend to encounter shields too often in Latin.

And then... she pulls a John Lovitz and switches emotions mid-sentence and suddenly fire starts coming from the sky.  I thought at first she was trying to lull them into a false sense ofGETTHEM! because she thought that Abel was the creature.

Quote from: Roureem Egas on December 04, 2006, 09:36:58 PMI'm a bit surprised that Devin referred to Abel as a friend. Beyond that, I don't have much to say. :/

I think they all know that the ribbing is all in good fun (except Abel when the ribbing is about him).  I think Devin realizes that he would be personally devastated to see anything bad happen to Abel.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Aridas on December 04, 2006, 09:56:45 PM
Woot! seemingly racist but just cautious. Yay glory. Now... WTF, we're about to find out what's going on, possibly. And likely what they've been after all this time.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Distracting on December 04, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
Hmm...call it a delusion, but is it just me or is a certain dalmatian who had it pointed out about him being at SAIA missing?

I like the fire though. =)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: superluser on December 04, 2006, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: HeroZero on December 04, 2006, 09:59:27 PMHmm...call it a delusion, but is it just me or is a certain dalmatian who had it pointed out about him being at SAIA missing?

You know, I also noticed that Abel seems to have an affinity to fire, and the fire seems to be caused by whatever this creature is.

...so, Xander is Dan's grandfather?
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Aridas on December 04, 2006, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: HeroZero on December 04, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
Hmm...call it a delusion, but is it just me or is a certain dalmatian who had it pointed out about him being at SAIA missing?

I like the fire though. =)
by that logic, you may as well assume the other few members of Glory's party are also missing. he should probably be considered as off-camera until something important happens, or he's entirely missing from the next one. At the time it was just between abel, devin, and glory... So you can't be too hasty. Still room for worry, though...

Quote from: superluser on December 04, 2006, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: HeroZero on December 04, 2006, 09:59:27 PMHmm...call it a delusion, but is it just me or is a certain dalmatian who had it pointed out about him being at SAIA missing?

You know, I also noticed that Abel seems to have an affinity to fire, and the fire seems to be caused by whatever this creature is.

...so, Xander is Dan's grandfather?
I'm pretty sure he didn't mean anything like that...
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: bill on December 04, 2006, 10:06:39 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 04, 2006, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: HeroZero on December 04, 2006, 09:59:27 PMHmm...call it a delusion, but is it just me or is a certain dalmatian who had it pointed out about him being at SAIA missing?

You know, I also noticed that Abel seems to have an affinity to fire, and the fire seems to be caused by whatever this creature is.

...so, Xander is Dan's grandfather?
Yes. Can't believe I missed that.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Landon_Fox on December 04, 2006, 10:13:05 PM
Paladins are an odd thing to me.  On one hand, I can understand how lawful good can easily become lawful stupid.  But on the other hand, all of their special abilities are based on frikkin' charisma!  So they should be extremely likable people.  I'm glad to see a paladin shown to have some sense.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Elader Arkon on December 04, 2006, 10:19:44 PM
Glory has a cool magical shield. Paladins generally seem fairly disliked until its time for combat. Then everyone loves 'em.

   Is it just me or does there seem to be little faces in the fire hinting at a very experienced caster?
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Manawolf on December 04, 2006, 10:25:38 PM
High charisma doesn't meen you're likable, it just means you have a more...domineering personality.  They show a sense of bravery, refusal in backing down, and also a demand for respect.  How you wish to flesh out that charismatic personality is up to you, but they most certainly won't be shy.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Faux_Pas on December 04, 2006, 10:31:20 PM
Those have to be the greatest looking fireballs I have ever seen EVER!!!! (I just had to comment on them alone...)

I like how the arc seems to be heating up, if we just get a tiny bit lucky, well get a nice battle scene that lasts like 5 comics long. We dont really get a chance to see magic happen all that much, and i likes magic. <3
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 04, 2006, 10:39:27 PM
Quote from: Faux_Pas on December 04, 2006, 10:31:20 PM
Those have to be the greatest looking fireballs I have ever seen EVER!!!! (I just had to comment on them alone...)

I like how the arc seems to be heating up, if we just get a tiny bit lucky, well get a nice battle scene that lasts like 5 comics long. We dont really get a chance to see magic happen all that much, and i likes magic. <3
Heating up... :giggle

Did ya' notice that the fireballs seem to have eyes? Maybe they're just cool spots, but they look like eyes.

And how come Abel doesn't seem worried? He seems to be confused about the whole thing.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Aridas on December 04, 2006, 10:42:33 PM
I think you guys are overanalyzing this eye thing, where it can easily be part of the fireball's spread-y nature. it's not solid, after all.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 04, 2006, 10:43:39 PM
That's possible too. :mowsad
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Elader Arkon on December 04, 2006, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 04, 2006, 10:42:33 PM
I think you guys are overanalyzing this eye thing, where it can easily be part of the fireball's spread-y nature. it's not solid, after all.

But that's not anywhere NEAR as fun as imagining the skill it would take for someone to cast such a spell.
*thinks back to the horses appearing in the water in the LOTR*

Ok, the caster probably isn't that powerful, but I would think that most magic users would add their own personal touch to their spell...
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Manawolf on December 04, 2006, 11:01:10 PM
I thought they were flame arrows at first.  When I think fireball, I see something...a lot bigger (except for D&D fireball, which is nothing more than a yellow bead till it reaches the target point, where it then explodes in a 40 foot blast).
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on December 04, 2006, 11:07:05 PM
Quote from: modelincard on December 04, 2006, 10:39:27 PM

And how come Abel doesn't seem worried? He seems to be confused about the whole thing.

He's going through his Aurther Dent phase.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Zaon on December 04, 2006, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: modelincard on December 04, 2006, 10:39:27 PM
And how come Abel doesn't seem worried? He seems to be confused about the whole thing.
Maybe he knows the spellcaster
after all Kria Soulstealer was his teacher and she HAS been known to go through the countryside and attack people. She did it on her trip with her daughter.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Toric on December 04, 2006, 11:32:57 PM
I can only hope we'll get to see some the magic Abel's learned within the next two or three strips! :eager
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Teroniss on December 04, 2006, 11:42:27 PM
Its always good to see someone who can quickly react to any threat. Gvies the idea of high reflexes. Also, charisma dictates alot of things. In Glory's case, a high charisma could dictates a very intimidating personality, as Charisma influences Intimidate in D&D
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Grenn on December 04, 2006, 11:42:42 PM
Heh, I thought at first that Glory was all of a sudden attacking Abel thinking he was the creature.

Now upon looking back, I can tell she's defending against an attack coming from outside the fort. Likley the monster ;)

Woo! Solved my own confusion by looking carefully. :lol
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: The Lurking Dragon on December 04, 2006, 11:47:13 PM
Charisma is more likely to make you dominating in a discussion, but not domineering. Charisma is force of personality whether it be by looks or just "aura of command" It by no means makes one Lawful Stupid, that's more a result of players being held to half of  LG - Lawful but not necessarily Good. Paladins tend to be hated because most tend to have less mercy in them than they should.
As far as the comic, well, just because Devin knows that those words mean holy shield and duck does in no way tie him to paladins, just makes him an adventurer. If he were in a D&D game I'd say he made his Spellcraft check. =) Abel's lack of reaction can be easily summed up with "Huh?" He hasn't quite twigged to what's going on, which is fair since he didn't see the fireballs coming.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Drake Manaweilder on December 04, 2006, 11:48:44 PM
Quote from: Toric on December 04, 2006, 11:32:57 PM
I can only hope we'll get to see some the magic Abel's learned within the next two or three strips! :eager
:yeahthat
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Manawolf on December 04, 2006, 11:55:07 PM
Quote from: The Lurking Dragon on December 04, 2006, 11:47:13 PM
Charisma is more likely to make you dominating in a discussion, but not domineering. Charisma is force of personality whether it be by looks or just "aura of command" It by no means makes one Lawful Stupid, that's more a result of players being held to half of  LG - Lawful but not necessarily Good. Paladins tend to be hated because most tend to have less mercy in them than they should.
As far as the comic, well, just because Devin knows that those words mean holy shield and duck does in no way tie him to paladins, just makes him an adventurer. If he were in a D&D game I'd say he made his Spellcraft check. =) Abel's lack of reaction can be easily summed up with "Huh?" He hasn't quite twigged to what's going on, which is fair since he didn't see the fireballs coming.

According to exalted deeds, it should be the othr way around.  A paladin should follow the law, unless the law starts to turn evil (such as forcing cruel punishment on people).  Then it's up to the paladin to set the law right so that it follows the way of good.  This is also how you get church inquisitors.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Mock AV on December 05, 2006, 12:02:43 AM
[dndgeek]Fire Shield, isn't that a 4th level sorcerer spell?[/dndgeek]
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Manawolf on December 05, 2006, 12:05:29 AM
[D&Dubergeek]No, it's also usable by clerics, but then it would be a cold shield, generating cold and resisting fire.  What Glory put up is more of a Shield of Faith, which is 1st level and known by clerics and paladins alike.[/D&Dubergeek]

Edit: I'm sorry, but he asked.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Mock AV on December 05, 2006, 12:09:35 AM
Oh, hmm where did fire come from, I guess I was reading to fast, or maybe it was the cookies

Edit: Accualtly the Cold version of Fire Shield is usuable by both clerics and sorcerers/wizards, and so is the fire version. Also clerics cannot cast is unless they have the fire or sun domains.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Manawolf on December 05, 2006, 12:12:42 AM
Because it is normally referred to as fire shield, cold shield is just an alternative version you can use.  Since a shield of force with what is most likely her faith's symbol is on it, it would definitely be Shield of Faith.  Cold Shield envelopes the person in a cold barrier, chilling anything that tries to get through it.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Mock AV on December 05, 2006, 12:14:25 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on December 05, 2006, 12:12:42 AM
Because it is normally referred to as fire shield, cold shield is just an alternative version you can use.  Since a shield of force with what is most likely her faith's symbol is on it, it would definitely be Shield of Faith.  Cold Shield envelopes the person in a cold barrier, chilling anything that tries to get through it.
I already said that I was wrong on my first assumition of fire shield because of reading too fast/cookies.  :eager
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Cogidubnus on December 05, 2006, 12:44:43 AM
Populus quisnam bulla Carcer quod Extraho commoror forum, turbatio sulum alius.

I figured since the comic spoke in latin, why not everyone else?

It says dungeons and dragons nerds inhabit this forum and are confusing everyone else.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Ted Schiller on December 05, 2006, 01:25:05 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 04, 2006, 10:42:33 PM
I think you guys are overanalyzing this eye thing, where it can easily be part of the fireball's spread-y nature. it's not solid, after all.

Maybe they are Warp-Aci and their aurae are really glowing.  :)

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Teroniss on December 05, 2006, 01:47:55 AM
I once played a CG Cleric that convinced a Paladin to accept the assistance of a Troll that had been imprisoned by the Fire Giants we were fighting in 1st Ed D&D. Woooo, Charisma 18 Baby!!!!
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Taross on December 05, 2006, 02:22:09 AM
Opening bets here.

The fire is being shot at the heroes by:

A. Aaryanna
B. Destania
C. Pyroduck(ling)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Zorro on December 05, 2006, 02:37:14 AM
Evil Clerics are the most powerful AD&D characters.

Nothing like a powerful one TURNING a Paladin!

That and commanding undead in to your service and creating them.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 05, 2006, 07:16:15 AM
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh battle time!!!!!!!!! I love this like throwing my first flashbang at a very unlucky soul and follow up with a strong attack with either my 50 Cal. machine gun or my double edge katanas *but hey that's me * Anyway I can't wait for the dreaded enemy to pop up and see the combatants ready to rock. I can't wait for what's next if when my battles will start I will have any AC/DC music blasting in my ears while I'm attacking unrelentlessly. But who is unknown enemy attacking we will have to wait to find out our culprit once and for all.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Stygian on December 05, 2006, 07:23:38 AM
Illic nos vado. Denique nos adepto video vidi visum nonnullus factum!*

My speculations at possible scenarios;

1: The "monster", more probably some sort of creature, was hiding with Abel and Devin under an invisibility spell or something like it and using them as a cover to launch further attacks against the adventurers fighting it.

2: Xander proves to be the "monster" in hiding. Whether it is the real Xander or not, I leave to you.

3: The "monster" simply launched a sneak attack at just this moment, after having followed Abel and Devin around and waiting to dive at them.

Now, were I the monster, I would have gone for a variant of option two, as that is closer to my way of approach to these situations. But I never would have just started throwing fireballs around...

Oh, and stop trying to apply D&D rules to this. It doesn't work that way.

*There we go. Finally we get to see some action!
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Pentawolf on December 05, 2006, 07:49:41 AM
Hrmmm.. the fireballs look vaugely like mice...

*Aurissa yells* "Rabbits not mice!!!"

*Pent Yells back* "Mice!"

"Rabbits!"

*And on and on and on.... sadly*
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 05, 2006, 08:03:10 AM
Throwing fireballs you do from point-blank range.

"Dodge this" type of shot. :-)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Arcalane on December 05, 2006, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: Landon_Fox on December 04, 2006, 10:13:05 PM
Paladins are an odd thing to me.  On one hand, I can understand how lawful good can easily become lawful stupid.  But on the other hand, all of their special abilities are based on frikkin' charisma!  So they should be extremely likable people.  I'm glad to see a paladin shown to have some sense.

Or Lawful Anal-Retentive.  :B
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Alan Garou on December 05, 2006, 08:59:04 AM
Quote from: Akisohida on December 04, 2006, 09:27:21 PM
Yay for combat! Also, I LOVE the donation counter for this month! EEEEEE for Matty and Dan! ^.^ *Does the Foxspider Dance Of Joy* :boogie :eager :bunny :ipod
I'll join in - I am evil Alan, I am evil Alan...  :ipod
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Arcalane on December 05, 2006, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: Pentawolf on December 05, 2006, 07:49:41 AM
Hrmmm.. the fireballs look vaugely like mice...

*Aurissa yells* "Rabbits not mice!!!"

*Pent Yells back* "Mice!"

"Rabbits!"

*And on and on and on.... sadly*

<Havoc> "Cow."
<Sydney> "Pig!"
<Havoc> "No, Cow!"
<Cow> "Moo!"
*tires screech as they steer around the cow*

:U
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: e_voyager on December 05, 2006, 09:16:00 AM
some how those fire balls of an meteor attack. (blood FF tactics game i never did beat it.)) me of a  rain of fire attack.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Alondro on December 05, 2006, 09:35:01 AM
*Charline smirks*  Oh come now, this is an easy one!  There's only one creature who could shoot fire like that!  Only one who could then trigger intense hatred within Abel upon a later meeting in the future!

*Charles*  Uhm... I know!  I know!  It's Pip!

*Charline sighs*  Yes, Charles... Pip... *whacks Charles with the really heavy Book of Knowledge.*

*Charles ack*  I was just kidding!  I know it must be Pyroduck!

*Alondro hmms*  Not so fast!  When has Amber EVER made something so obvious come true?  Hasn't she always twisted our expectations into tangled knots?

*Charles reasons*  Yes, but she might expect us to think that she'll twist it around, and instead it'll be exactly what we thinkit is!

*Charline adds*  Ah, but in that case, what we expect might not be what Amber expects us to think, since she knows that we know she always twists things into unknown directions, therefore what she expects will be obvious will in fact be what we least expect, and therefore the most unlikely guess will become the truth!

*Charles scratches his head*  Soooo... it is Pip?   :B

*Charline*  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR... *WHACK WHACK WHACK!!!*   :smack
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 05, 2006, 10:15:10 AM
It's Merlitz! I know it!


*giggle*
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Narethlian on December 05, 2006, 10:16:35 AM
I rather think, given what little evidence we have, it's a Demon.  Demons usually rampage, are highly skilled in magic, etc, etal.   It occurs to me that perhaps the creature is a particularly violent race of Mythos as well.

Unfortunately, Mythos aren't as well known for rampages.  Neither are Cubi, and also unfortunately, that is the one race that my writer's senses say the Creature belongs to.

Honestly, all we can do is sit back, wait for Abel to 'get' what's happening, have him see someone die(tired old cliche, but it works) and then everyone left gets to see what this  librarian soon to turn 'Cubi can do in a magical offensive.  

I'm half-willing to bet he could withstand a direct hit from a fireball and not be hurt too badly.  Even Cubi youngsters are magically resistant -- mainly to fire.  Note: this is according to the actual legends of Succubae and Incubae, not according to any any gaming that I'm aware of.   Since he's an adult, and almost to the age his second wings should appear, he may be almost fully immune to elemental spells.

A full-out magical assault with a fireball opener like what we see is exactly what I'd do, and have done in the past in some of my RPing excapades.  Get them all diving for cover, and while that's happening, launch a directed physical assault against the Mage/Claric/Paladin that just cast a protective shield.  If I were Glory, I wouldn't waste time in drawing my weapon and preparing for immediate melee combat.

I've played both sides(Aggressor and Defender) in this style conflict.

Now for the Defense.  This is assuming that the Creature is land-bound and not flight capable.

Glory draws her weapon and enages the charging Creature in melee combat.  Glory's party members would be the first to assist, engaging in melee as well.  Provided the Creature doesn't at this point doesn't cast a shockwave spell of some sort, they have a chance of winning.  Abel, Xander, and Devin would join in and help win it.

However, if the creature does cast a shockwave spell, things could get very messy.  It would have to depend on Xander and Abel to keep the creature off-balance while the melee characters get to their feet.  In my experience, a ranger and magic-casting librarian versus rampaging Creature = Not Good.

If the creature is flying, Only Xander, Abel, and possibly Glory could hope to damage it, and that would be with ranged and magical attacks.  Abel would also be the longest lasting spellcaster of the two, so he'd have the endurance, if not the skill and power to keep an effective attack going.  I'm not sure who could do so, but an Entangle spell would bring the Creature to the ground and allow the melee characters to engage.

I see ways to win it for the good guys, but combat is always full of unpredictable variables.

-Nar
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
Quote from: Narethlian on December 05, 2006, 10:16:35 AM
I'm half-willing to bet he could withstand a direct hit from a fireball and not be hurt too badly.  Even Cubi youngsters are magically resistant -- mainly to fire.  Note: this is according to the actual legends of Succubae and Incubae, not according to any any gaming that I'm aware of.   Since he's an adult, and almost to the age his second wings should appear, he may be almost fully immune to elemental spells.

I get what you're saying, but as a rule Amber's mythology is only tangentially related to the core mythology (rather like Garuda and Vodyanoi in Perdido Street Station).  DMFA Angels for example are neither messengers nor servants of the Almighty, and my 16th century source books say nothing about succubi stealing souls, which would be counterproductive anyway since if they ate people's souls, their victims would be unable to serve the Evil One.

Likewise I'm not sure DMFA 'cubi have element-resistance by default.  I suspect it's more likely something that Abel will pick up at SAIA.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 05, 2006, 10:46:08 AM
neuter aggredior  draco impotens.

Gah! more bad latin.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Arcalane on December 05, 2006, 10:56:40 AM
I'm just gonna settle for "Carpe Diem". Y'know.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 05, 2006, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: Narethlian on December 05, 2006, 10:16:35 AM
A full-out magical assault with a fireball opener like what we see is exactly what I'd do, and have done in the past in some of my RPing excapades.  Get them all diving for cover, and while that's happening, launch a directed physical assault against the Mage/Claric/Paladin that just cast a protective shield.  If I were Glory, I wouldn't waste time in drawing my weapon and preparing for immediate melee combat.

Ah, if you look at the frame where she's talking, where she casts the shield.. she is already drawing her sword.

I'd say, other than that, and the comments that Tapewolf has said, you're probably right. But, as you say, there's all sorts of variables. :-)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Drake Manaweilder on December 05, 2006, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: Narethlian on December 05, 2006, 10:16:35 AM
I'm half-willing to bet he could withstand a direct hit from a fireball and not be hurt too badly.  Even Cubi youngsters are magically resistant -- mainly to fire.  Note: this is according to the actual legends of Succubae and Incubae, not according to any any gaming that I'm aware of.   Since he's an adult, and almost to the age his second wings should appear, he may be almost fully immune to elemental spells.

Acording to Demo 101, cubi can be killed by "normal means" unless they are above a certain power level. So Abel probably has the constatution (resistance) of a regular being.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: thegayhare on December 05, 2006, 01:19:22 PM
Off topic sorry

Quote from: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
(rather like Garuda and Vodyanoi in Perdido Street Station). 

Whoa some one else who's read Perdido street station... Have you read the scar as well?  I should cheek to see if there have been any more books set in that extreamly interesting world.

he only apeard breifly once in the book but I'm entralled with Jack Half-a-Prayer...
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: superluser on December 05, 2006, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: Stygian on December 05, 2006, 07:23:38 AMIllic nos vado. Denique nos adepto video vidi visum nonnullus factum!*

*There we go. Finally we get to see some action!

I swear you people are just copying and pasting from online Latin dictionaries (video vidi visum?).  I'd translate it this way (apologies.  My latin is rusty):

Heia!  Denique pugnas videre poterimus.

Also, I'm trying for Chaotic Good.  Jake and Elwood are my role models.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Cogidubnus on December 05, 2006, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 05, 2006, 01:23:26 PM
I swear you people are just copying and pasting from online Latin dictionaries (video vidi visum?).  I'd translate it this way (apologies.  My latin is rusty):

Heia!  Denique pugnas videre poterimus.

Do you imply we don't actually know Latin, sir? Well, for the most part you'dn be right. But of course, you should know by now, all of us are Non Impeditus per sententia processus.

You should be able to guess what that says. >:3

Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: KarlOmega1 on December 05, 2006, 01:34:29 PM
you know what I would have used to reduce damage done to me by that attack if I were a paladin? I would use Fire Resist Aura from the Diablo 2* Paladin class


*Diablo 2...game by Blizzard/Blizzard North.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on December 05, 2006, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
(rather like Garuda and Vodyanoi in Perdido Street Station). 

Whoa some one else who's read Perdido street station... Have you read the scar as well?  I should cheek to see if there have been any more books set in that extreamly interesting world.
Not yet.  Iron Council is the third one in the series, by the way.

Quotehe only apeard breifly once in the book but I'm entralled with Jack Half-a-Prayer...
Yeah, he turns up again at the very end when they let Yagharek go.  My favourites has to be The Weaver, though.  And that wonderful description of The Torque..

Quote from: HeroZero on December 04, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
Hmm...call it a delusion, but is it just me or is a certain dalmatian who had it pointed out about him being at SAIA missing?
Hard to say.  The last shot we have of him, he was in front of where Abel and Devin are now.  It's possible he might have slipped behind them while the others were arguing over Abel, but if it is him he's just blown his cover by attacking which would have been a pretty silly thing to do.

Quote from: Stygian on December 05, 2006, 07:23:38 AM
2: Xander proves to be the "monster" in hiding. Whether it is the real Xander or not, I leave to you.
If you're suggesting that the real Xander was replaced by the monster during the 'signalling orb' bit, note that he has made an in-character comment since his return.  That doesn't preclude possession or substitution by a mindreading foe of course, but it does make it a bit less likely (unless of course he's always been the monster..).
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Aridas on December 05, 2006, 01:52:38 PM
Quote from: superluser on December 05, 2006, 01:23:26 PM
I swear you people are just copying and pasting from online Latin dictionaries
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Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: thegayhare on December 05, 2006, 01:59:13 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 01:36:40 PM
Not yet.  Iron Council is the third one in the series, by the way.

Ohh thank you, saves me a search,  the scar is quite good,  full of more biazare and interesting creatures and charactors.  The scab molders (I cn't remember there real name off the top of my head) and the probability sword realy caught my eye.  as did thewhole city of armada.

Quote
Yeah, he turns up again at the very end when they let Yagharek go.  My favourites has to be The Weaver, though.  And that wonderful description of The Torque..

I rememberd that as soon as I saw you'd replied... the weaver was unique to say the least so very insane but still an interesting creature... I wonder what he likes now.  It was sissors in the book and they mentioned checker boards before that he must have moved on to someting else by now.

It's such a vibrant and intresting wold he's created there so much is made referance to and so little is clearly defined.   

Sorry I'm a fan
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: superluser on December 05, 2006, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 01:36:40 PMIf you're suggesting that the real Xander was replaced by the monster during the 'signalling orb' bit, note that he has made an in-character comment since his return.  That doesn't preclude possession or substitution by a mindreading foe of course, but it does make it a bit less likely (unless of course he's always been the monster..).

I note that Xander doesn't have much of a personality until Abel screams that he doesn't want to be sodomized.  At which point Xander seems to change completely, almost as if he's saying ``What did Devin tell you we creatures do?'' but then checks himself as he realized what Devin has prepared for his cover.

And some Latin off-topicness:

Quote from: Cogidubnus on December 05, 2006, 01:33:49 PMBut of course, you should know by now, all of us are Non Impeditus per sententia processus.

You should be able to guess what that says. >:3

Car Talk fans?

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 05, 2006, 01:52:38 PMLorem ipsum dolor sit amet...

:mwaha :mwaha :mwaha (for those who don't get it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum))
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Amber Williams on December 05, 2006, 02:30:24 PM
There's a Rule #8 you guys should be remembering. Just because I use 2 latin words to do a spell in comic does not mean its open season for babelfish on the forums.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Teroniss on December 05, 2006, 02:32:04 PM
If Xander is the creature, the replacement/possession woulda had to have happened when Xander was away from Abel and Devin. Xander could not have been the creature from the start, cuz as Glory said, they followed its tracks from the outpost and it looped back around. Xander was with Devin and later Abel the whole time up until the outpost.

p.s.-Thats ok Amber, babelfish doesnt translate latin last i checked anywho
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Sid on December 05, 2006, 02:34:05 PM
I only speedread the three pages since I don't speak Latin, but OMG NICE EFFECTS! MWEEEE!

When I noticed the preview image, I first thought that Glory shapeshifted into Fa'Lina (the bit of her shield reminded me a bit of her Clan Symbol somehow, and the color scheme seemed to be similar...) xD

And I oh-so-totally heard the funky action-sequence guitar riff from Beast Wars when Glory started casting her shield.

I'm eager to see if we'll follow Devin and Abel or if we get to stick around the action a bit longer... :eager

Not-really-edit: I got DOUBLE-ninja'd? Hot thread...
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Arcalane on December 05, 2006, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 05, 2006, 02:30:24 PM
There's a Rule #8 you guys should be remembering. Just because I use 2 latin words to do a spell in comic does not mean its open season for babelfish on the forums.

Hey, Carpe Diem is perfectly legitimate latin, to my knowledge. >_>

~~

Quote from: KarlOmega1 on December 05, 2006, 01:34:29 PM
you know what I would have used to reduce damage done to me by that attack if I were a paladin? I would use Fire Resist Aura from the Diablo 2* Paladin class


*Diablo 2...game by Blizzard/Blizzard North.

Still only reduce it by 75% max. Unless you have some kinda item to boost your resistances beyond the 75% cap - and those are rare as heck.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Aridas on December 05, 2006, 04:34:19 PM
and fire absorb, but I don't remember if an item like that exists.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Zedd on December 05, 2006, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 05, 2006, 04:34:19 PM
and fire absorb, but I don't remember if an item like that exists.

Its been awhile but I think there was a fire adsorb item but rare as hell
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: ChaoSynergy on December 05, 2006, 04:44:23 PM
Glory is Bubblehearthing!  Coward! :E
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: e_voyager on December 05, 2006, 05:07:08 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 05, 2006, 02:30:24 PM
There's a Rule #8 you guys should be remembering. Just because I use 2 latin words to do a spell in comic does not mean its open season for babelfish on the forums.

babelfish?  did i miss something?
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Amber Williams on December 05, 2006, 05:10:26 PM
QuoteRule #8

The Conspiracy Rule: No posting in anything other than English. If the administrators cannot decode what you're saying, then you don't need to post it.

    * Section A: The languages which are prohibited include but are not limited to: any language other than English (all posts must be entirely in English, unless referring to a name or place), Excessive 1337-speak, backward text, encoding. Spanish is among the barred languages. This is simply because only one of our admins can speak Spanish, and while he can decode the posts, no one else can. Sorry.

Basically put, if it requires you going off-forum for an online translator...then you shouldn't be posting it.  Babelfish is a hitchhikers reference to a fish that would automatically translate one language into another via niftyness.   It isn't cool and trendy to make your posts mysterious with a different language most people cant read.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on December 05, 2006, 05:12:53 PM
Amber is incapable of translating Latin...and she be having zee problems cognating zee  olde engrish.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Aridas on December 05, 2006, 05:52:50 PM
I was posting gibberish :<
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: e_voyager on December 05, 2006, 06:00:52 PM
okay thanks.  some how i did not realize babelfish was a translator.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 05, 2006, 06:16:12 PM
e, they're referring to babelfish.altavista.com (lest you find some other alternatives, like astalavista.com :-)
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Anri on December 05, 2006, 06:55:41 PM
Sooo, nice that they're next to an overturned cart to take cover in. *nod*
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Stygian on December 05, 2006, 06:59:20 PM
As yet more new members fall victim to the horrible trap of the Latin Plague, will Amber make it on time to correct them all? Or will DMoon and his fiendish lackeys get to them before? Stay tuned on Clockwork Mansion!
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: Sid on December 05, 2006, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Tikki on December 05, 2006, 06:55:41 PM
Sooo, nice that they're next to an overturned cart to take cover in. *nod*

I think common sense implies that a cart made out of wood provides little shielding against mutiple fireballs :P
Of course, it's better than nothing, but I kinda hope they keep running until they reach the appropriate minimum safety distance (like... 1 mile for Cubi, 2 miles for Demons, 5 miles for annoyed Fae, next continent for enraged Wildy ;))
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: thetire on December 05, 2006, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: KarlOmega1 on December 05, 2006, 01:34:29 PM
you know what I would have used to reduce damage done to me by that attack if I were a paladin? I would use Fire Resist Aura from the Diablo 2* Paladin class


*Diablo 2...game by Blizzard/Blizzard North.


ah, just take it like a garou* and soak it, ya pansy.  >:3


*Werewolf: The Apocalypse





Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 05, 2006, 08:15:13 PM
Quote from: Sid on December 05, 2006, 07:10:02 PM
I think common sense implies that a cart made out of wood provides little shielding against mutiple fireballs :P
Of course, it's better than nothing, but I kinda hope they keep running until they reach the appropriate minimum safety distance (like... 1 mile for Cubi, 2 miles for Demons, 5 miles for annoyed Fae, next continent for enraged Wildy ;))

The idea of the cart is that the Bad Guy can't see what you're planning for him, while you're hiding.

Assuming that the cart actually provides any cover at all, of course.
Title: Re: 12/5/2006 Scutum means `shield'
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 15, 2006, 12:39:34 PM
Or a false mis-direction have somebody go there while the enemy forces his attack on the cart and the poor sap to go there in the first place. Then *viola* the main group is going towards the tower and get that sob once and for all.