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Title: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Jack McSlay on November 30, 2006, 11:56:12 AM
[speculation]
dunno if anyone else noticed, but can you see a certain similarity?

#366 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php) (3rd panel)
[/speculation]
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Zedd on November 30, 2006, 12:03:41 PM
Answer no..Its not...And stop picking it wont get better
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 30, 2006, 12:04:18 PM
You're not the first to so speculate. I'm sure there's some mention somewhere else in the forum....


Edit:

Oh, here we go.
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1638.msg65503#msg65503
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=989.msg32504#msg32504
- http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=989.msg32539#msg32539
- http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=989.msg32563#msg32563
- http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=989.msg32569#msg32569
- http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=989.msg32646#msg32646

And, of course, this thread.

This doesn't take into account anything Amber might have said on the old forum. Try me again later, after I get home and sort out my web server there....
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: AndersW on November 30, 2006, 01:15:29 PM
you may be right.  I was thinking the same thing myself when I read #479 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_479.php)

Kria mentions both Biggs and the Council in the same context.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Arcalane on November 30, 2006, 01:24:43 PM
Unlikely. Although he may be there as a representative of the TT, I doubt anybody really pays attention to what he says.

I'm more interested by whoever that is in space #2. Fae, obviously, and I'd guess, going by outline, one of the "big cat" types. But it's probably nothing important. :P
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Toast on November 30, 2006, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: Sheridan on November 30, 2006, 01:24:43 PM
Unlikely. Although he may be there as a representative of the TT, I doubt anybody really pays attention to what he says.

I'm more interested by whoever that is in space #2. Fae, obviously, and I'd guess, going by outline, one of the "big cat" types. But it's probably nothing important. :P

I was thinking equine. :O Although I'm probably wrong.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Arcalane on November 30, 2006, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Toast on November 30, 2006, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: Sheridan on November 30, 2006, 01:24:43 PM
Unlikely. Although he may be there as a representative of the TT, I doubt anybody really pays attention to what he says.

I'm more interested by whoever that is in space #2. Fae, obviously, and I'd guess, going by outline, one of the "big cat" types. But it's probably nothing important. :P

I was thinking equine. :O Although I'm probably wrong.

If the white dot is where it's mouth is, then unless the head's at a very odd angle, that's gotta be a very short muzzled equine of any kind. >_>
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Teroniss on November 30, 2006, 02:14:39 PM
Oh plus the fact that the demonology on Fae alludes to the fact that the notable fae figure, Albanion, is on the creature council. So yea, i'd say equine

ps- plus the shape of the gem on the fae's head matches Albanion's

pps- As for Biggs on the CC, its possible. If you look very closely at the shadowed figure, there are some similarities.

1. The hair of the shadowed figure and Biggs is very similiar.
2. The shadowed figure is wearing a bandana, which Biggs also wears.
3. The shadowed figure is wearing something around his neck, which when I used a paint program to zoom in on an clean up the magnified image, resembles a B.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Toric on November 30, 2006, 03:50:06 PM
Well, if that IS Biggs, this quote from Demo 101 "To this date there isn't even a Were on the Creature-Being council" will burst the bubbles of all those people who think Wildy's a Were. But then there'd be the question of what the heck ARE they?
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Sid on November 30, 2006, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Toric on November 30, 2006, 03:50:06 PM
Well, if that IS Biggs, this quote from Demo 101 "To this date there isn't even a Were on the Creature-Being council" will burst the bubbles of all those people who think Wildy's a Were. But then there'd be the question of what the heck ARE they?

*blinks* Wha?
There's a "WereWildy" theory out there? O_o;;; When did that happen?
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Cogidubnus on November 30, 2006, 04:13:55 PM
There is now! >:3
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Toric on November 30, 2006, 04:24:06 PM
It started back when somebody thought too hard about Wildy's human-fandom I think. But yeah, I know I'm not the first person to mention this.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Amber Williams on November 30, 2006, 04:30:42 PM
Speculate my pretties! Speculate!  :mwaha
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Stygian on November 30, 2006, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 30, 2006, 04:30:42 PM
Speculate my pretties! Speculate!  :mwaha

Nein! I shall refrain, and simply state; this is not going in healthy directions!

And that council seems to silly to actually possess the means to do more than scheme!
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Tapewolf on November 30, 2006, 04:42:25 PM
Weres are supposed well-developed magical powers.  Wildy has shown no evidence of this that I can recall.  Now Dan is also highly magic-capable but dislikes it, although Wildy's "can you do magic?" question to Dan in their childhood kind of speaks against that line of reasoning.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Toric on November 30, 2006, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 30, 2006, 04:30:42 PM
Speculate my pretties! Speculate!  :mwaha
I do as you command.

1. Kria's a Twink
2. Biggs and Wildy are Were/Fey/Cubi/Toothpick hybrids
3. Pyroduck is actually vacationing from the past, since everyone knows you can't go BACK in time and change events, only FORWARD.
4. Jyrras's ears will cover the entire world exactly twelve years from now. (And Amber will still be making comics by that time. :mwaha)
5. Destania has her third set of wings.
6. Fa'Lina has her fourth set of wings, on her ankles.
7. Wildy has a crush on Jyrras, but is afraid to admit it because throwing one more romantic conundrum into his head will make him crack.
8. Merlitz's story about going back to adventuring is a ruse: he has gone back to SAIA to be with the new love of his life: the librarian. Nevermind the fact that Dan was in the library the entire time Merlitz was wandering off by himself.

There ya go, discuss!

[Edit] Oh, and Tapewolf, don't forget that Wildy's a shaman, so she probably has some sort of healing magic in her reportoir by now.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Zedd on November 30, 2006, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: Toric on November 30, 2006, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 30, 2006, 04:30:42 PM
Speculate my pretties! Speculate!  :mwaha
I do as you command.

1. Kria's a Twink
2. Biggs and Wildy are Were/Fey/Cubi/Toothpick hybrids
3. Pyroduck is actually vacationing from the past, since everyone knows you can't go BACK in time and change events, only FORWARD.
4. Jyrras's ears will cover the entire world exactly twelve years from now. (And Amber will still be making comics by that time. :mwaha)
5. Destania has her third set of wings.
6. Fa'Lina has her fourth set of wings, on her ankles.
7. Wildy has a crush on Jyrras, but is afraid to admit it because throwing one more romantic conundrum into his head will make him crack.
8. Merlitz's story about going back to adventuring is a ruse: he has gone back to SAIA to be with the new love of his life: the librarian. Nevermind the fact that Dan was in the library the entire time Merlitz was wandering off by himself.

There ya go, discuss!

You forgot a few

9. Amber is really my mother
10. No one really loves Jack Sparrow
11.  Jyyras is really a tank program
12. Fluffy broke in Bill Gates kneecaps in making her computer poop out
13. And I need a bagel on my plate right now

And there you have it people
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Tapewolf on November 30, 2006, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Toric on November 30, 2006, 04:47:39 PM
Oh, and Tapewolf, don't forget that Wildy's a shaman, so she probably has some sort of healing magic in her reportoir by now.
Yeah, but that was just a mail-order degree - we haven't so far seen any evidence of actual powers so far, unless you count Dan's resurrection - and I swear Dan was self-healing via his latent 'cubi powers.

Now, usually when we do insane speculation, I trot out the 'Abel-is-Dan's-father' theory but last time I did that (earlier this week) people started to believe it, so I think now is not the time.

Merlitz is actually a rock star.  He actually decided to leave Pegasus, Gen, Dice and Nitemyst because of artistic differences, but his attempts to pursue a solo career didn't pan out.  Aliyka and he are currently engaged in an epic cross-dimensional search to recruit the legendary human organist Keith Emerson.  If they succeed, the band will be known as EL&M (Emerson, 'Liyka and Merlitz).
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on November 30, 2006, 05:45:35 PM
Quote from: Toric on November 30, 2006, 04:47:39 PM6. Fa'Lina has her fourth set of wings, on her ankles.

Such a mercurial attitude!

Anyways, if we're being ordered to speculate...

1. Destania is Neni (no one's proven me wrong, yet).
2. Jyrras kills Kria on their honeymoon.
3. Destania was mauled by Aaryana.
4. Pyroduck is from an alternate universe where you're issued ration cards for music.  You know, a utopia.
5. Not only is Abel hemophobic and homophobic, he is also hydrophobic.
6. Abel also has the royal disease.
7. Dan kills his father and marries his mother.
8. Bill Watterston comes out of retirement to do a strip that proves that the noodle incident and the library incident are one in the same.

Edit:  Oh!

9. Dan has Dutch Elm Disease.  You see, it turns out that `cubi can seduce not only animals but also plants, fungi, single-celled organisms, bdelloid rotifers...  And what Dan thought was a really vivid dream about The Last Unicorn was not.

(http://www.frontiernet.net/~superluser/popcorn.gif)
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aisha deCabre on November 30, 2006, 05:59:30 PM
Oh, you people.   :rolleyes

Heh, on the subject of the topic itself...I haven't seen anything of Biggs using magic (and I'm not sure if anyone's pointed that out somewhere yet...), so one would think that he was a Being, not a Creature, and therefore not on the Creature Council. 

Though who knows, maybe they were impressed by his taking over of Twink Territories and gave him an honorary position.   :3

It's a good thing someone pointed out that Demonology entry, else I would have suspected that the person/thing in that seat looked indeed like a Were in human form...or just a human.  Then again, they don't exist in that dimension, so instead of speculating, one should just be keeping opinions open.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on November 30, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
took over? In the comic, he says all that was his doing, not that he took over.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: terrycloth on November 30, 2006, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on November 30, 2006, 05:59:30 PM
Heh, on the subject of the topic itself...I haven't seen anything of Biggs using magic (and I'm not sure if anyone's pointed that out somewhere yet...), so one would think that he was a Being, not a Creature, and therefore not on the Creature Council. 

Though who knows, maybe they were impressed by his taking over of Twink Territories and gave him an honorary position.   :3

The creatures' law is 'if you're strong enough to take and hold something, then you deserve to have it'. So, if Biggs was powerful enough (using whatever sort of power) to create the twinks, which group includes a whole bunch of creatures, he'd be worthy of a seat on the creature council even if he was a being.

And of COURSE the twinks would rather work under Creature laws than Being laws. If a being PKs, they can get sent to prison for murder.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on November 30, 2006, 07:00:44 PM
The only problem being that twinks aren't a race, but a "species/class", meaning they can't actually be on the council unless they were representing their race.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on November 30, 2006, 07:07:11 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 30, 2006, 07:00:44 PM
The only problem being that twinks aren't a race, but a "species/class", meaning they can't actually be on the council unless they were representing their race.

You're forgetting that these are twinks, and they'll probably just change their attributes.

You know, this is more fun than arguing that Dan is Abel's father.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on November 30, 2006, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 30, 2006, 07:07:11 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 30, 2006, 07:00:44 PM
The only problem being that twinks aren't a race, but a "species/class", meaning they can't actually be on the council unless they were representing their race.

You're forgetting that these are twinks, and they'll probably just change their attributes.

You know, this is more fun than arguing that Dan is Abel's father.
and you're forgetting amber hasn't yet defined twinks in demonology, so they'll be a mystery forever on what they actually DO when they're twinking (or at least until she sacrifices everything to get it updated) :3

And I'm still convinced Pyro's a twink. We have pre-canon evidence of him liking twinkies. Everyone knows twinks and twinkies go together like a fish and a bicycle. Solid evidence.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on November 30, 2006, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 30, 2006, 07:10:49 PMand you're forgetting amber hasn't yet defined twinks in demonology, so they'll be a mystery forever on what they actually DO when they're twinking (or at least until she sacrifices everything to get it updated) :3

We know what twinks do.  They twink.  They godmode, they hack the servers, they cheat.  If a twink wanted to get onto the Creature Council, it would just use a hex editor to change the value of the race attribute in the character structure.  How would it find the proper offset?  From another twink.

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 30, 2006, 07:10:49 PMpre-crisis

Fixed that for ya.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on November 30, 2006, 07:29:54 PM
Since when do servers and hex editors exist as real-world tools?
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on November 30, 2006, 07:34:00 PM
*Beats Aridas over the head with something large and heavy.* :sweatdrop
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on November 30, 2006, 07:34:27 PM
He ruined my mood, I wasn't going to let him get away with it >_>
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Weleho Rogan on November 30, 2006, 07:39:37 PM
since when they haven't been!?

.. Do you think that's air you're breathing?   :mwaha
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Faerie Alex on November 30, 2006, 08:02:11 PM
Quote from: Toast on November 30, 2006, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: Sheridan on November 30, 2006, 01:24:43 PM
Unlikely. Although he may be there as a representative of the TT, I doubt anybody really pays attention to what he says.

I'm more interested by whoever that is in space #2. Fae, obviously, and I'd guess, going by outline, one of the "big cat" types. But it's probably nothing important. :P

I was thinking equine. :O Although I'm probably wrong.
No, you're right.
http://www.missmab.com/Demo/fae.php
(Look towards the bottom.)
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on November 30, 2006, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 30, 2006, 07:29:54 PMSince when do servers and hex editors exist as real-world tools?

Well, godmoding, spamming, and player-killing have all been mentioned in the strip.  e-mail has also been mentioned, and you can't have e-mail without servers.  Hex editors wouldn't be too far-fetched, especially for one strong with the twink.

Quote from: Weleho Rogan on November 30, 2006, 07:39:37 PM.. Do you think that's air you're breathing?   :mwaha

Think that's scary?

HOW DO YOU GET TO SHELL BEACH?
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Alondro on November 30, 2006, 09:37:08 PM
*Charline hmms*  I'm most interested in knowing who that feline-looking incubus is on the creature council.  Kittah?  Destania herself?  Destania's clan founder?  Questions questions! 
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Teroniss on November 30, 2006, 09:38:47 PM
Alright, I may be speculating, but look:

I took the 3rd panel person from here http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_366.php

I then focused on the chest itself, increased the image size and embossed it to bring focus to the 3 dimensional details.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Teroniss/biggs.jpg)

That thing on his chest looks like a B, speculation or no.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Miaka on November 30, 2006, 09:50:43 PM
Just random and going by the fact that they're shown up before....

That character you guys are thinking is biggs, the ears are too small and the muzzle far too short, which leads me to think more human than anything...

Speculating, and more likely than not, about as far off as you can get.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Merlin on December 01, 2006, 06:10:22 AM
I always thought the figure in cell 3 was a human, and any lookalikeiness to Biggs was coincidence.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 01, 2006, 07:12:27 AM
I say he's a card carrying member at the council why? because he has the abilities as a Twink to cheat at everything and has unlimteless magic at his disposal. I bet he changed his appearance so nobody will figure out who he really is. The B on his chest confirms it and also why Lorenda's mom will mentioned his name and the council at the same sentence because she's knows Biggs is part of that council that's why.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on December 01, 2006, 07:23:27 AM
If he did, he wouldn't get people to do his dirty work and be a complete sissy. >.>
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Arcalane on December 01, 2006, 07:25:07 AM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on December 01, 2006, 07:12:27 AM
I say he's a card carrying member at the council why? because he has the abilities as a Twink to cheat at everything and has unlimteless magic at his disposal. I bet he changed his appearance so nobody will figure out who he really is. The B on his chest confirms it and also why Lorenda's mom will mentioned his name and the council at the same sentence because she's knows Biggs is part of that council that's why.

The problem with twinks is they generally lose power as they leave their 'home'. This is why Biggs is rarely seen outside the TT - his 'powers' (if any, which I doubt) would dwindle and become ineffective once he entered somewhere that at least vaguely follows the laws of physics, biology and genetics.

See, at least in a standard roleplay-type scenario, most people just ignore them. The more ignored a twink is, the more their powers weaken. Ignore them entirely and eventually they just get a clue and give up or change. The problem is, as soon as someone starts paying attention who isn't either the DM or an Admin, they recover their losses. Hence why TT still survives, even if ignored by the outside world, because they just can't ignore one-another. Self-powered situation, as it were.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on December 01, 2006, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on December 01, 2006, 07:25:07 AM
The problem with twinks is they generally lose power as they leave their 'home'.
I remember hearing that somewhere. I forgot, but now I remember. And that makes a whole lot more sense.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Izkata on December 01, 2006, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: superluser on November 30, 2006, 08:15:37 PM
HOW DO YOU GET TO SHELL BEACH?

When was the last time you saw the sun in this city?

(I cannot believe I almost forgot about that movie!)
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: terrycloth on December 01, 2006, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: Teroniss on November 30, 2006, 09:38:47 PM
I then focused on the chest itself, increased the image size and embossed it to bring focus to the 3 dimensional details.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Teroniss/biggs.jpg)
g on his chest looks like a B, speculation or no.

Computer! Zoom in and enhance! :mowdizzy
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on December 01, 2006, 04:23:05 PM
it looks more like a squiggly line. If it were a B, it'd be backwards, and I dunno if a backwards biggs is such a good idea...
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Alondro on December 01, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Actually, if you look at it carefully, it looks like some sort of little screaming skull.   :3
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Amber Williams on December 01, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
This is what I get for not simply using a 100% black and instead chose 95% since my monitor both showed them as pure dark. :3
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Kasarn on December 01, 2006, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
This is what I get for not simply using a 100% black and instead chose 95% since my monitor both showed them as pure dark. :3

JPEG artifacts.
It looks like a single gemstone to me (big white splotch/line on one side and a small white point on the other)

Or... maybe it's a iPod... :3
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on December 01, 2006, 06:39:02 PM
It looks like marbles embedded in his chest. D:
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Arcalane on December 01, 2006, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on December 01, 2006, 06:39:02 PM
It looks like marbles embedded in his chest. D:

Well that would stop him from losing them.  :B
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on December 01, 2006, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
This is what I get for not simply using a 100% black and instead chose 95% since my monitor both showed them as pure dark. :3


Wait.... so you actually have who or whatever that is sketched out in the original pre-computer colored strip?

If so, you should sell it on furbid.  You would make a FORTUNE.


*edit* Also, I don't think that is Biggs.  If you look very closely the jaw is way to square.  (Yay for brightness shenanigans)
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Azlan on December 01, 2006, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 30, 2006, 05:45:35 PM


1. Destania is Neni (no one's proven me wrong, yet).

I married a succubus???!!! *cries*
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Alondro on December 02, 2006, 12:02:31 AM
*looks at the spot more carefully... using high-resolution image analysis software*  It's Elvis AND Jesus!  Mab'll make a fortune on Ebay!   :U
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: luiqui on December 02, 2006, 04:43:08 AM
*sigh* You made me come out of lurking for this?

OK, here's my indisputable theory:

The shadowy figure is the council's amazon representative.

Fact 1: The shadowy figure looks identical to Hahwru (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/were.php). Too identical to be a coincidence.

Fact 2: That very Demonology entry states that Weres have no representation on the Creature council.

So, if she's on the creature council, she must be hiding her Were nature.

Fact 3: Hahwru is an amazon.

That's the only other relevant piece of information we have about her, and the only other reason I can think of why she'd be on the council. Why would an amazon be on the council if they're a 'class'? Perhaps some council big-wigs wanted a Were rep, but were aware that the race preferred to stay hidden, so they invited Hahwru to represent Amazons instead. This would have been accepted perhaps for similar reasons as to why people have thought Twinks would be there - they're highly influential, and have gained an honourary position.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Tiger_T on December 02, 2006, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: Azlan on December 01, 2006, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 30, 2006, 05:45:35 PM


1. Destania is Neni (no one's proven me wrong, yet).

I married a succubus???!!! *cries*
That'd explain soo much. >:3
*patpats*

So.. Are you Dan's father? :rolleyes

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on December 01, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
This is what I get for not simply using a 100% black and instead chose 95% since my monitor both showed them as pure dark. :3
I guess that means that she doesn't want to tell us (yet).  :boogie
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Teroniss on December 02, 2006, 07:35:10 PM
Damn you and your obsure logic and usage of Demo 101 luiqui, damn it all to heck.

Though technically doesnt look completely like her either. We shall see
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: EvilIguana966 on December 02, 2006, 08:15:44 PM
6 AD : Entrails
2006 AD: JPEG artifacts

While the technology for divination has advanced, the underlying methods remain largely unchanged.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Caswin on December 02, 2006, 09:32:41 PM
*Squints*

A sharp playing card thrown with uncanny accuracy.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: bill on December 02, 2006, 09:36:07 PM
God, soon folks are going to go through the archives, attempting to see if Amber's been using steganographic techniques to hide hidden messages in the low bits of .jpg noise.


No, that wasn't a suggestion.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Arcalane on December 03, 2006, 06:46:28 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 02, 2006, 09:36:07 PM
God, soon folks are going to go through the archives, attempting to see if Amber's been using steganographic techniques to hide hidden messages in the low bits of .jpg noise.


No, that wasn't a suggestion.

Oh well, too late now! You've gone and done it now haven't you?

.

..

...

That should keep 'em entertained for a while. :B
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: icarus on December 03, 2006, 08:49:34 AM
'to date' is a relative term.

it's her. (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/were.php)[/b] the glint is off the clasp that holds her tunic on. since as an amazon she's cut off one tit, we see a masculine chest profile in the shadow.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on December 03, 2006, 09:53:22 AM
Quote from: icarus on December 03, 2006, 08:49:34 AMit's her. (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/were.php)[/b] the glint is off the clasp that holds her tunic on. since as an amazon she's cut off one tit, we see a masculine chest profile in the shadow.

You know, the myth that I heard was that one breast was bound, not cut off.  Anyways, that seems to be based on the theory that they could use a bow more freely, but since the longbow wasn't invented until c.1300 and the Amazon myth goes back to Homer (at least), it's unlikely to be true in any case.

Edit: It is, however, likely to be true that this Hahwru has one breast bound, since we see that in her profile.  It's just not an Amazon thing (Unbound in 707 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_707.php) and 709 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_709.php)).

Also, since longbows have probably been invented by now in Furrae, the bound breast thing may have been since adopted.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Aridas on December 03, 2006, 12:48:17 PM
Interesting thingie on amazons, while we're on that subject.

Quote from: WikipediaThe name Αμαζών is probably derived from an Iranian ethnonym, *ha-mazan-, originally meaning "warriors". A connected word is probably the Hesychius gloss ἁμαζακάραν· πολεμεῖν. Πέρσαι ("hamazakaran: 'to make war' (Persian)", containing the Indo-Iranian root kar- "make" also in kar-ma).

The Greek variant of the name was connected by popular etymology to a- (privative) + mazos, "without breast", connected with an aetiological tradition that Amazons had their right breast cut off or burnt out, in order that they might be able to use the bow more freely; there is no indication of this practice in works of art, in which the Amazons are always represented with both breasts, although the right is frequently covered. Other suggested derivations were: a- (intensive) + mazos, breast, "full-breasted"; a- (privative) and masso, touch, "not touching" (men); maza, a Circassian word said to signify "moon", has suggested their connection with the worship of a moon-goddess, perhaps the Asiatic representative of Artemis.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: luiqui on December 03, 2006, 06:08:09 PM
I seem to recall Mab stating that she lost that breast to cancer.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: FlameSword on December 03, 2006, 07:35:56 PM
Definitely maybe though the head is the wrong shape *thinks hard* I know this is wrong but it almost looks human :[
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: bill on December 03, 2006, 07:59:57 PM
I've actually toyed with the idea of a human being in the CC for whatever silly reason.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 03, 2006, 08:28:40 PM
Okay, I know this might just be an out-of-canon incident, but the human in the "Merlitz and the Human" arc obviously had to get to Furrae somehow. Perhaps a dimensional rift is known about only by a select few (those on the council) and thus, they have a human on it. Maybe to help keep other humans out.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: bill on December 03, 2006, 08:29:14 PM
Maybe they're just... hiding behind couches. Like the dinosaurs in Dilbert.  :B
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on December 03, 2006, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: modelincard on December 03, 2006, 08:28:40 PMOkay, I know this might just be an out-of-canon incident, but the human in the "Merlitz and the Human" arc obviously had to get to Furrae somehow. Perhaps a dimensional rift is known about only by a select few (those on the council) and thus, they have a human on it. Maybe to help keep other humans out.

Hmmm.  The human didn't seem particularly clueful.

Maybe it's the son of whoever is on the creature council.

Quote from: BillBuckner on December 03, 2006, 08:29:14 PMMaybe they're just... hiding behind couches. Like the dinosaurs in Dilbert.  :B

The Couch of 95% darkness?
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: bill on December 03, 2006, 08:56:04 PM
Hey, when's the last time you looked behind your couch? The plan could work.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 04, 2006, 07:15:48 AM
Quote from: modelincard on December 03, 2006, 08:28:40 PM
Okay, I know this might just be an out-of-canon incident, but the human in the "Merlitz and the Human" arc obviously had to get to Furrae somehow. Perhaps a dimensional rift is known about only by a select few (those on the council) and thus, they have a human on it. Maybe to help keep other humans out.
Merlitz knew how to find one to send the human back (and yes, this must be canon since the current arc is referencing it).  It might not be exactly common knowledge, but Merl certainly knew about it.

Now speaking from a practical point of view, if you wanted to go off and find humans, either you'd try to get hold of some way to manipulate dimensional gates, or you'd summon a Warp-Aci, since they can and do cut through the dimensional boundaries with their tails.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 04, 2006, 07:27:50 AM
A human on the council to farfetched maybe. I still think it's Biggs because if Destinia was with him all this time will she pull that same magic that Abel did to Dan to make him Alexsi? I think thats Biggs for sure mind you she's there at Twinks territory for some reason which we will know for a later time. But with that theory there which I stated it has to be Biggs for sure.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Alondro on December 04, 2006, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on December 03, 2006, 08:56:04 PM
Hey, when's the last time you looked behind your couch? The plan could work.

*Charles erfs*  I did look behind my couch once.  Where do you think I found Charline?  *sobs*  Don't let what happened to me happen to you! 
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: FlameSword on December 04, 2006, 08:14:16 PM
I just took a look and it denfinetley looks like a human. And because I love Star Wars... :starwars
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Faerie Alex on December 04, 2006, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 04, 2006, 07:15:48 AM
Quote from: modelincard on December 03, 2006, 08:28:40 PM
Okay, I know this might just be an out-of-canon incident, but the human in the "Merlitz and the Human" arc obviously had to get to Furrae somehow. Perhaps a dimensional rift is known about only by a select few (those on the council) and thus, they have a human on it. Maybe to help keep other humans out.
Merlitz knew how to find one to send the human back (and yes, this must be canon since the current arc is referencing it).  It might not be exactly common knowledge, but Merl certainly knew about it.
I was thinking that since it was said that Dice wanted to use the incident, perhaps his girlfriend created the illusion of a human. As for Merlitz's knowledge of the gate, I'm not sure about that. Maybe it's common knowledge among adventurers, such that they'll know what to do with a human if they found one.
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 04:41:05 AM
Quote from: modelincard on December 04, 2006, 10:48:57 PM
As for Merlitz's knowledge of the gate, I'm not sure about that.

"Well we made up, and I told him the way to the nearest dimensional gate."
--Merlitz, #59

QuoteMaybe it's common knowledge among adventurers, such that they'll know what to do with a human if they found one.
Merlitz doesn't seem to know how the human got there until he's talked to him somewhat.  By implication he also knows the location of multiple gates..
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: superluser on December 05, 2006, 05:33:51 AM
You know, everyone seems to be overlooking one thing--

What if gates and the knowledge and locations thereof are more common in Furrae than in the human dimension?

What if there's one gate in the human dimension, located on the continent of Mu beyond the Guardians of Infinity and usable only to those who have read and understood the eldritch symbols of the Voynich Manuscript?

But in Furrae, there's a dimensional gate in every 7-11, right behind the Slurpee machine, with instructions on how to use it in three languages?
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: Tapewolf on December 05, 2006, 05:41:00 AM
Quote from: superluser on December 05, 2006, 05:33:51 AM
You know, everyone seems to be overlooking one thing--
What if gates and the knowledge and locations thereof are more common in Furrae than in the human dimension?

That's actually the basis of the 'Marooned in 1968' arc in my story :P
Title: Re: Biggs in the creature council?
Post by: ShiningShadow on December 05, 2006, 07:01:32 AM
I don't know if a human is here in Furae then this world will be in shock and dismayed but the ruthlessness of the human. That's why in Furae they feared humans for that reason of destruction etc. If this is true that a human is on the counsel then Furae is in a lot of trouble to deal with this matter.