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Title: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Faerie Alex on November 24, 2006, 11:28:40 PM
I wonder if they're after Abel. Perhaps they percieve him as the "danger"? :eager
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Roureem Egas on November 24, 2006, 11:38:52 PM
To be honest, that wasn't the first thing I noticed.

It's likely that Glory and her friends (or whatever) think Abel is at least some sort of threat, which they could say solely on the fact that Abel has wings. It could be even bigger trouble if they know about the traits of cubi. Or it could just as likely be that whatever was causing the panic will for some insane reason just jump out at everyone. I doubt this bit though.

And finnaly, I'm wondering if Glory's a short raccoon or a ferret. Can't tell without seeing the tail.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: DigitalMan on November 24, 2006, 11:48:38 PM
Personally I was thinking that they were referencing themselves as the threat.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Regal on November 24, 2006, 11:56:51 PM
The saying "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" came to mind when I saw this strip. I wonder if these are competent adventurers or smash everything adventurers.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Fresnor on November 24, 2006, 11:59:21 PM
I'd more say, at least the leader, "Short man/woman syndrome" adventurers...  The small always trying to take on those bigger than themselves to prove a point, some better than others though.  That, along with some of the general "holier than thou" attitudes paladins can get, leads to bad confrontations.   :mowninja
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 12:00:32 AM
Isn't it beautiful when Paly's and Barbs can work side by side.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Wanderer on November 25, 2006, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Regal on November 24, 2006, 11:56:51 PM
The saying "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" came to mind when I saw this strip. I wonder if these are competent adventurers or smash everything adventurers.
Depends on if this is a "lawful stupid" paladin, or one that's actually good for something.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: icarus on November 25, 2006, 12:09:42 AM
i don't know about the others
but i know one certainly enjoys breaking others' bones for fun.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: DigitalMan on November 25, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on November 25, 2006, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Regal on November 24, 2006, 11:56:51 PM
The saying "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" came to mind when I saw this strip. I wonder if these are competent adventurers or smash everything adventurers.
Depends on if this is a "lawful stupid" paladin, or one that's actually good for something.

Nah, the lawful stupid ones are usually the fumbling idiot heroes. It's the chaotic stupid ones you need to worry about.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: KarlOmega1 on November 25, 2006, 12:15:53 AM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 25, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on November 25, 2006, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Regal on November 24, 2006, 11:56:51 PM
The saying "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" came to mind when I saw this strip. I wonder if these are competent adventurers or smash everything adventurers.
Depends on if this is a "lawful stupid" paladin, or one that's actually good for something.

Nah, the lawful stupid ones are usually the fumbling idiot heroes. It's the chaotic stupid ones you need to worry about.

Chaotic stupid, eh?

*thinks of Shadow the hedgehog doing a move that causes everyone else to become stupid*

Shadow : Chaos Stupidity! *notices it works* Ummm...oops.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: ninjannihilator on November 25, 2006, 12:20:04 AM
Seems like Abel is in for some trouble. It also seems that Devin isn't carrying a weapon.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Zedd on November 25, 2006, 12:29:13 AM
Trouble is Devins middle name...
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Kasarn on November 25, 2006, 12:30:00 AM
GOOD FOR THE GOOD GOD!
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 12:53:24 AM
At least there's no Dwead Piwate Woberts.

Edit: I also must nitpick, that hammer is not going to counter balance well at that angle, especially judging from the muscle mass in the lady's arm.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Cogidubnus on November 25, 2006, 12:56:34 AM
Liar! I am the Dread Pirate Roberts, No# 1023873!
Call 100-0001 for franchising options in your area
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Mock AV on November 25, 2006, 01:04:01 AM
Ah yes, the daily does of uppity paladin, what every adventure needs to get in the mood to KILL people... er monsters.. in the morning. :3
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Fresnor on November 25, 2006, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 12:53:24 AM
At least there's no Dwead Piwate Woberts.

Edit: I also must nitpick, that hammer is not going to counter balance well at that angle, especially judging from the muscle mass in the lady's arm.

Yes, and we all know muscles have to be bulging out grossly to have any effect, and hammers of that size can't be enchanted for personal lightness... >.>
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Weleho Rogan on November 25, 2006, 04:01:11 AM
anyways, it could be just a metal coated wooden hammer like that big hammers usually are...
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Arcalane on November 25, 2006, 04:23:15 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 12:53:24 AMEdit: I also must nitpick, that hammer is not going to counter balance well at that angle, especially judging from the muscle mass in the lady's arm.

You underestimate Kammi.

~~

OT;

I thought the ear-tufts and colouration looked familiar...
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Tapewolf on November 25, 2006, 05:59:58 AM
Oh Jesus, I can't believe I forgot about Dorian until I saw Zina's latest art thread.  I'm curious about the orange lady with the human nose, though.  What is she?
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Arcalane on November 25, 2006, 06:41:01 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 25, 2006, 05:59:58 AM
Oh Jesus, I can't believe I forgot about Dorian until I saw Zina's latest art thread.  I'm curious about the orange lady with the human nose, though.  What is she?

Kammi (http://inhuman-comic.com/kammibio.php)
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: ITOS on November 25, 2006, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 25, 2006, 05:59:58 AM
I'm curious about the orange lady with the human nose, though.  What is she?

Were, is she?

[EDIT]
Quote from: Sheridan on November 25, 2006, 06:41:01 AM
Kammi (http://inhuman-comic.com/kammibio.php)

Hekshanian? That's not in the Demo.101. :P
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Arcalane on November 25, 2006, 07:02:05 AM
Quote from: ITOS on November 25, 2006, 06:44:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 25, 2006, 05:59:58 AM
I'm curious about the orange lady with the human nose, though.  What is she?

Were, is she?

[EDIT]
Quote from: Sheridan on November 25, 2006, 06:41:01 AM
Kammi (http://inhuman-comic.com/kammibio.php)

Hekshanian? That's not in the Demo.101. :P


Of course not, it's a random cameo. :P
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on November 25, 2006, 07:15:34 AM
Quote from: Mock AV on November 25, 2006, 01:04:01 AM
Ah yes, the daily does of uppity paladin, what every adventure needs to get in the mood to KILL people... er monsters.. in the morning. :3

But I like my uppity Paladins in the morning, they will be whining little girls by evening.  Really, a little god call, and they will be running for the hills or Bar-B-Q.

Glory looks more like a raccoon and, given Devin's comment, she may be a very good paladin adventurer.  Devin and Glory seem to be just rival adventurers

PBH
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Tapewolf on November 25, 2006, 07:31:52 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on November 25, 2006, 06:41:01 AM
Kammi (http://inhuman-comic.com/kammibio.php)

Ohh.. an out-worlder.  That kind of implies a quick encounter rather than a long drawn-out role, but I guess we shall see.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Magic on November 25, 2006, 07:40:42 AM
Heh. Zina's Llama.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Sid on November 25, 2006, 08:29:16 AM
Yay! Dorian! *mweeeee*

I'll keep further speculation to myself for now, but things are looking interesting!
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Alan Garou on November 25, 2006, 09:43:52 AM
Grumpy short people are awesome, and even better when they're paladins. But they are nothing when compared to sexually ambiguous llamas. Here's a llama, there's a llama, and another little llama... :boogie
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: Fresnor on November 25, 2006, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 12:53:24 AM
At least there's no Dwead Piwate Woberts.

Edit: I also must nitpick, that hammer is not going to counter balance well at that angle, especially judging from the muscle mass in the lady's arm.

Yes, and we all know muscles have to be bulging out grossly to have any effect, and hammers of that size can't be enchanted for personal lightness... >.>

Yes, it did cross my mind it could be a weapon enchanted with the balanced special quality.  Then she'd be able to weild it with one hand.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 25, 2006, 01:15:40 PM
Quote from: Alan Garou on November 25, 2006, 09:43:52 AM
Grumpy short people are awesome, and even better when they're paladins. But they are nothing when compared to sexually ambiguous llamas. Here's a llama, there's a llama, and another little llama... :boogie

.. duck. *swipe* :-)
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Distracting on November 25, 2006, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: Fresnor on November 25, 2006, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 12:53:24 AM
At least there's no Dwead Piwate Woberts.

Edit: I also must nitpick, that hammer is not going to counter balance well at that angle, especially judging from the muscle mass in the lady's arm.

Yes, and we all know muscles have to be bulging out grossly to have any effect, and hammers of that size can't be enchanted for personal lightness... >.>

Yes, it did cross my mind it could be a weapon enchanted with the balanced special quality.  Then she'd be able to weild it with one hand.
Unless it's like a bird's wings. Then with the weaving of...well steel I guess, it could be much lighter than if it was completely solid, but could remain pretty strong.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 01:27:40 PM
You mean being hollow (or corked, perhaps).  Sure, if you want to use it to hit home runs.  Just don't expect it to have as much of an impact against a steel plated beast.  The head might not stand up to the force it hits, and break off from the haft.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Distracting on November 25, 2006, 01:40:34 PM
True, but in combat a hammer with a head that large would be largely ineffective for much other than hitting home runs out of an enemy anyway. Well...unless you want to crush them, that is. I'll admit that with the lightness, you'd sacrifice damage though. But what's not given is how much damage said hammer actually gives.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 01:46:56 PM
It's a Maul, granted an oversized one.  Downward swings usually do the best with it, but you may still break some bones if you perform a horizontal swing.  Granted, there are plenty of ways to kill a humanoid, you just have to worry about needing that extra oomph when fighting the big nasties.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Distracting on November 25, 2006, 02:06:23 PM
In many confrontations, I'd imagine, downward swings would leave many of your vital parts more open to quicker weapons such as swords, daggers, maces, spears, and sharpened sticks. Whatever floats your boat (water displacement floats mine though), so I guess with a distraction the maul could work. Most of the force behind it would be the momentum which would be magnified by the weight. It could work as a weapon for swinging sideways and not just down.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 02:08:53 PM
Exactly, horizontal for the little foes, downward for the big ones (caused it's hard for a dragon to grab you with a crushed claw).
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Teroniss on November 25, 2006, 02:11:38 PM
Oooooo, this wont end well. Likely little miss Paladin knows Abel is from Xinth, doesnt like the presence of one from the Demon City, and will righteously try to slay him. We know Abel will survive, but the question is, will they just escape, or will Devin and Xander protect Abel as stated earlir in the comic and die trying?
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Distracting on November 25, 2006, 02:18:08 PM
A dragon with a hurt leg would be less able to attack too. The bad thing about dragons are their rows of razor sharp teeth that they'd love to shred you with. I'll admit though, a downward strike would be a lot better against parts of larger creatures. A large mace would suffice for me though.

More to the storyline, I think there might be a confrontation coming on...maybe the thing that makes Abel decide that he hates the world and to go to SAIA.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 02:20:47 PM
Of course wantonly slaying someone who isn't inherently evil, and is currently not trying to do evil, does kind of go against the paladin's code of conduct.  When you're working the side of good, it's better to wait for your enemy to actually show aggression before just ruling them evil and ending up killing an innocent.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Arcalane on November 25, 2006, 02:21:26 PM
Another problem with dragons is the whole breath weapon deal some have going on. Not pretty. :P
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 02:24:14 PM
It all depends on what they come at your with.  You'd be able to break a claw with a downward swing, then smash some teeth with a horizontal.  As for the breath weapon, it's probably why I go with the whirling fury, to keep up the pace and out of the breath weapon's path.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Distracting on November 25, 2006, 02:26:37 PM
It sounds like a long running grudge between them. Maybe Devin did something in the past that would constitute as prior aggression.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 02:28:51 PM
There is always competition amongst adventuring parties, since they would sometimes compete for the same job.  Why can't we all just work together?  Oh, that's right, anal people don't get along except with each other.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: ChaoSynergy on November 25, 2006, 04:49:24 PM
Oh god...a ferret paladin.  If she bubbles, we're all screwed.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Eibborn on November 25, 2006, 05:39:12 PM
Hot diggity, Devin is screwed if he carries on being himself (ie. a jerk :D) around that lot- Kammi, I know would be only too glad to SMASH HIM TO DEATH OVER AND OVER without any provocation at all.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Elader Arkon on November 25, 2006, 07:00:37 PM
I don't think there will be too many problems, unless Devin really makes an idiot of himself. Also confrontation isn't likely to happen because it is a cameo... Unless said cameo lasts longer than normal.

But Devin is a jerk, and most likely will cause some problems for the enjoyment of us all. ;)
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Kenji on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina made him. And he's hundreds of years old. But that means Zina is hundreds of years old. o: No wonder she's goth! She went through hundreds of years of being surrounded by stupid people! Yes... it all makes sense now...
Now to figure out how, Kammi is it?, Is related to Lillithin..
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 07:10:55 PM
There are some cameos that get their own arc.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Zina on November 25, 2006, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina made him. And he's hundreds of years old. But that means Zina is hundreds of years old. o: No wonder she's goth! She went through hundreds of years of being surrounded by stupid people! Yes... it all makes sense now...
Now to figure out how, Kammi is it?, Is related to Lillithin..

NO MY SECRET. DDDD:
There is still time to fix this!!

Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina is awesome. Lets all throw her a party with cake, male strippers and vodka. I will buy.

Eeeeexcellent.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Kenji on November 25, 2006, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Zina on November 25, 2006, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina made him. And he's hundreds of years old. But that means Zina is hundreds of years old. o: No wonder she's goth! She went through hundreds of years of being surrounded by stupid people! Yes... it all makes sense now...
Now to figure out how, Kammi is it?, Is related to Lillithin..

NO MY SECRET. DDDD:
There is still time to fix this!!

Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina is awesome. Lets all throw her a party with cake, male strippers and vodka. I will buy.

Eeeeexcellent.

Well.... shoot. :< Guess I better start saving up for next AC..
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Zorro on November 25, 2006, 07:42:19 PM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 02:24:14 PM
It all depends on what they come at your with.  You'd be able to break a claw with a downward swing, then smash some teeth with a horizontal.  As for the breath weapon, it's probably why I go with the whirling fury, to keep up the pace and out of the breath weapon's path.
Dragons are FAR too intelligent to get in a fair fight.  You assume you will even be armed at the time one makes its move against you.

Even if you do have a weapon and a Dragon out in the open you will be THOUROGHLY burned, shocked, frozen, poisoned and slowed before you ever get a shot.  Beings that live thousands of years are known for taking EVERY possible advantage.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Zedd on November 25, 2006, 07:52:50 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Zina on November 25, 2006, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina made him. And he's hundreds of years old. But that means Zina is hundreds of years old. o: No wonder she's goth! She went through hundreds of years of being surrounded by stupid people! Yes... it all makes sense now...
Now to figure out how, Kammi is it?, Is related to Lillithin..

NO MY SECRET. DDDD:
There is still time to fix this!!

Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina is awesome. Lets all throw her a party with cake, male strippers and vodka. I will buy.

Eeeeexcellent.

Well.... shoot. :< Guess I better start saving up for next AC..

What kind of Vodka will do? Sides I know many places
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: thegayhare on November 25, 2006, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Zina on November 25, 2006, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: FireKatKid on November 25, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
But that Llama sitll exists today in the time of Zina... HE'S OOOOLD! D:
But wait.. Zina is awesome. Lets all throw her a party with cake, male strippers and vodka. I will buy.

Eeeeexcellent.

can I come???



ActualyI think the stickler here might be Xander he looked mre than a little worried
I tink sometihng happened a while back between these folk and xander.  then Devin stepped in to protect his partner hence the bad blood


Now if I was going to fight a dragon I'd leave the armor behind... against breath weapons it's usless and would just slow you down.  I'd probably go with a pick for a weapon  so you can have that long spike to punch threw scale
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: superluser on November 25, 2006, 08:09:23 PM
You know, there seem to be quite a few parties lately.  There's Merlitz's old party and Glory's party.  Uh, and [insightful statement].

Hrm, if we add these two parties together, we can have a sending of eight...
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 25, 2006, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on November 25, 2006, 08:00:26 PM
can I come???

.... I take the fifth. Honest. :-)
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 09:39:55 PM
Quote from: Zorro on November 25, 2006, 07:42:19 PM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 02:24:14 PM
It all depends on what they come at your with.  You'd be able to break a claw with a downward swing, then smash some teeth with a horizontal.  As for the breath weapon, it's probably why I go with the whirling fury, to keep up the pace and out of the breath weapon's path.
Dragons are FAR too intelligent to get in a fair fight.  You assume you will even be armed at the time one makes its move against you.

Even if you do have a weapon and a Dragon out in the open you will be THOUROGHLY burned, shocked, frozen, poisoned and slowed before you ever get a shot.  Beings that live thousands of years are known for taking EVERY possible advantage.

Yes, but normally that just from the traps they set up, easily enough to get those out of the way.  Plus you come prepared to the party, so less chance of them getting the drop on you.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: thegayhare on November 25, 2006, 09:44:12 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 25, 2006, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on November 25, 2006, 08:00:26 PM
can I come???

.... I take the fifth. Honest. :-)


And they call me a perv...  I guess it's my fault for hiding all my dirty comics in the box
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: EvilIguana966 on November 25, 2006, 10:54:02 PM
Greetings.  I am Kylahn Dy'Nar, Lord Protector of the city of Qeynos, Loyal subject of Queen Antonia, and faithful Paladin of the Truthbringer, Mithanial Marr, God of Valor. 

I hereby lodge my formal complaint against the creator of this comic strip, Mrs. Amber M. Williams of the kingdom of Canada, for spreading vile and completely false impressions about Paladins. Most of the negative impressions you may have about Paladins are outdated at best, and complete fabrications at worst.  In fact, it seems that the majority of the libelous claims about us have been spread by a class of person known variously as a: Shadow Knight, Blackguard, Anti-Paladin, Dread Lord, or Big-Meanie-Face.  You can identify these people by their posession of one or more of the following traits: Coal black full plate armor, glowing red eyes, devil horns and/or tails, vorpal bastard swords bathed in a demonic red glow, a strong chaotic aura, a strong evil aura, a law degree and membership in the trial lawyers association of America, or one or more undead or demonic/devilish companions.  If you ever hear a rumor from somone resembling said description, disregard it. 
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: DigitalMan on November 25, 2006, 10:59:00 PM
All hail the Shadow Knights. Though I never thought of having my Shadow Knight character be a lawyer... that's evil...
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 11:05:47 PM
You left out the blackgaurds of tyranny and slaughter.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: e_voyager on November 26, 2006, 12:20:44 AM
it's not that i remember a lot form my games but i think that some people that play Paladin are full of themselves. a lot of them that i read about in dragon lance many Paladin's do seem to be full of themselves but i'm sure that they can't all be like that.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on November 26, 2006, 01:05:36 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 07:10:55 PM
There are some cameos that get their own arc.

Hi.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Teroniss on November 26, 2006, 01:26:19 AM
One little problem about all the paladin assumptions is that your basing it off D&D. Amber could be basing this paladin after the Christian Crusader paladins that existed during the Crusades, like the Knights Templar. There is no Lawful Good rules for those guys, they did whatever they thought was justified by their religion.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 26, 2006, 02:35:20 AM
Well, she hasn't really established religion in Furrae, so not sure what else to base them off of.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Tapewolf on November 26, 2006, 06:01:58 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 25, 2006, 07:10:55 PM
There are some cameos that get their own arc.
But do they come from a different comic strip?
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Faerie Alex on November 26, 2006, 10:03:32 AM
Quote from: Manawolf on November 26, 2006, 02:35:20 AM
Well, she hasn't really established religion in Furrae, so not sure what else to base them off of.
Well...
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_045.php
:eager
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Stygian on November 26, 2006, 10:26:43 AM
I'm not entirely sure that qualifies. That might be an a reference to the actual mab that we see there. It was an early strip, after all.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Sid on November 26, 2006, 10:48:17 AM
There have been a few references to gods, religion or religious groups in DMFA.
The dudes that visited Wildy one day, Dark Peg. trying to summon a Dark God (I think), a few phrases in spoken language, the (potentially OOC-ish) "Power of Christ" by Abel and Fi, and so on. But I think Amber had made a post concerning religion in DMFA in the past, and I think it had been fairly "Eh. *shrug*"-ish. But I'd have to dig it out in order to verify it...

I think we should just wait until the next strip to see what sort of Paladin Glory (was that the name?) is. Trying to derive the religious system and/or the alignment/behavior from one frame is somewhat overkill :P

It's even possible that any annoying warrior fighting for The Good Cause is called "Paladin" by Devin. Keep in mind that this is not Devin establishing objective canon. It's just him making a silly remark. So if he wants to call her "Princess Fairytail of the Five Axe-Swinging Viking Gods", that doesn't have to be her actual name or title ;)
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: superluser on November 26, 2006, 11:09:37 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 26, 2006, 10:48:17 AMTrying to derive the religious system and/or the alignment/behavior from one frame is somewhat overkill :P

Oh, you're no fun anymore!

Quote from: Sid on November 26, 2006, 10:48:17 AMIt's even possible that any annoying warrior fighting for The Good Cause is called "Paladin" by Devin.

Who just happens to be wearing white armor with gold trim.  I suppose that could be any knight commissioned by a rich patron, and how a knight differs from a paladin is beyond me.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Boog on November 26, 2006, 12:23:11 PM
Obviously she's a paladin, on the basis that she's kind of a jerk. Pally's ruin everything.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: e_voyager on November 26, 2006, 04:12:31 PM
do they really? remember the rumor about Devan and if i'm not mistaken  his behavior card should trump her's
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Zedd on November 26, 2006, 04:43:47 PM
Make sure someone tosses a rock at his head next time
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Reese Tora on November 26, 2006, 04:51:40 PM
paladins, RL:
1. any one of the 12 legendary peers or knightly champions in attendance on Charlemagne.  
2. any knightly or heroic champion.  
3. any determined advocate or defender of a noble cause.  
(according to dictionary.com, anyway)

paladin, D&D(old):
The guy that kills anything evil, defends good, and converts neutral, living in a black and white point of view, extremely racist/prejudiced regaurding 'monster' races.  What we expect.

paladin, D&D(normal):
Holy warrior with magic power that actually thinks about whether someone is evil or not based on thier actions.  What we want to see, but rarely do.

--

on warhammers: a warhammers power is in the focusing of it's weight into a small area, the weapon was designed as a foil to plate armor where swords cutting edges were ineffective. one would break bones using the blunt side of the head, or pierce plate over a vital point using the spiked side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer

Real world warhammers have small heads becasue a smaller area of contact causes more damage.  The weight has to be kept down because, while a heavier hammer could be more damaging, it would be unwieldy to all but the strongest of warriors.

Fantasy warhammers (ie: the iconic warhammer, as pictured in the strategy game of the same name) are made to be visially appealing or intimidating, as thier real world effectiveness is immaterial.  I think that it's entierly appropriate that she's wielding a fantasy style warhammer, persoanlly.  (and can't wait to see if there's any 'phalic weapon' jokes going to come out of this :P )
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Anri on November 26, 2006, 05:57:07 PM
Or, yanno, could be the danger they're oblivious to is the fact they're acting casual at the scene of a light slaughter. >_>
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Tapewolf on November 26, 2006, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 26, 2006, 10:48:17 AM
There have been a few references to gods, religion or religious groups in DMFA.
The dudes that visited Wildy one day, Dark Peg. trying to summon a Dark God (I think), a few phrases in spoken language, the (potentially OOC-ish) "Power of Christ" by Abel and Fi, and so on. But I think Amber had made a post concerning religion in DMFA in the past, and I think it had been fairly "Eh. *shrug*"-ish. But I'd have to dig it out in order to verify it...

At the risk of warping this into a DMFA Religion thread, there's also the graveyard in the 'Vampire' strip (#510) - the grave markers are cruciform.  This, along with the Christians in #114 tells us that there's at least one Christian-derived religion.
This itself is quite interesting.  What species is Jesus, for instance?  In my CJP writings I've assumed that it's very fragmented - some believe in a human Jesus (unsurprising since humans are mythical in Furrae) while others have various species of Saviour.  One could also imagine various schisms developing between species:
"Jesus was a lion.. He died to save us lions.  You tigers are all going to hell!"
"Heretic!  He was a wolf and all canids are blessed in His sight..."
..repeat for each species.

The timing is another interesting point.  If their Jesus (or Jesi) happened at the same time as ours, it means that there's a fair few 'cubi (to say nothing of Dragons or Fae) who are older than Christ and may possibly remember Him.  Or, if they faith was passed down by long-lived races, it might mean that He died 10'000 years ago or longer.

As for the Dark God, who knows?  It could all have been in Dark Pegasus' imagination like Karras and The Builder* in Thief 2.  On the other hand, there are a lot of very powerful races such as Fae which are almost-godlike anyway - so the Dark God doesn't have to be a god per se.

As for the danger, I think they're probably referring to Abel myself.
(Dib: "Okay.. am I the only one who doesn't see the alien sitting right over there?")


*Praise to Karras!!! (...and the Builder.)
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: superluser on November 26, 2006, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 26, 2006, 06:42:57 PMWhat species is Jesus, for instance?

Wait.  Isn't Aslan Christ?

Anyways, I think it's time to start makin' some popcorn (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_201.php)!

...``Ralph, Jesus did not have wheels.''
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Sid on November 26, 2006, 07:17:33 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 26, 2006, 06:42:57 PM
The timing is another interesting point.  If their Jesus (or Jesi) happened at the same time as ours, it means that there's a fair few 'cubi (to say nothing of Dragons or Fae) who are older than Christ and may possibly remember Him.  Or, if they faith was passed down by long-lived races, it might mean that He died 10'000 years ago or longer.

It's also possible that "Jesus" was just one of the roles of a bored Fae... (Or a practical joke gone wrong by a Cubi... or heck, maybe it was a Demon! Wouldn't THAT be awkward?) ...which would also fit well into your bit about the Dark God not having to be an actual God.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Manawolf on November 26, 2006, 07:26:58 PM
There is a belief in D&D that deities are merely super powerful individuals that claimed themselves to be the Gods of their respective races or beliefs.  While this is a possibility, that just meant there was a different means to them being deities, and not them simply existing and creating all that exists today.  Mileage varies though, and it is merely one kind of belief in a world where religion exists.  This belief I have just told you of is labeled as "Deism," though that belief also goes with the idea that the "True Creator" (which can pretty much boil down to the Author of the fantasy realm) created all there is and these beings who then went on to claim to be deities after the original Creator left.  But I'm sure Zina and some others have grown tired of this sudden abundance of D&D referencing.  I'm simply going with what I know.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: icarus on November 27, 2006, 01:58:55 AM
Quote from: superluser on November 26, 2006, 07:14:58 PM
Wait.  Isn't  Aslan Christ?

yeah. that's one of the reasons he's jesus is popularly drawn as a lion. though i think that the reason aslan's a lion comes from some bit in the bible about lions lying down with lambs, which would create the image of an all-powerful dangerous beast not only protecting but living peacably beside weaker animals (which are prone to following).

i think dan's sworn a few times, but i don't think that religion is really an IMPORTANT part of any of the stories in DMFA's universe. so i think that in general we can think of paladin in this case as the 'super lawful good warrior', minus the religious connections.
Title: Re: 11-25-06 Oblivious to danger
Post by: Aridas on November 27, 2006, 02:25:58 AM
Yeah. and don't forget what amber said about wild spec. enough of that and you'll probably make her head explode if she reads it all, and then there won't be ANY comic. Do you want that?