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Title: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Drake Manaweilder on November 22, 2006, 09:49:52 PM
Busted. I had a feeling it wouldn't be so easy.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Akisohida on November 22, 2006, 09:52:00 PM
You will notice they did NOT notice any morphic magic on Abelitz. Since Abel morphed Dan, we now know an 'cubis innate morphic ability does not leave any scort of magical trace..At least, not once a person knows how to do it properly. :) I think, for Abel getting past any detection spells, he gets a ninja-mow! :mowninja

Edit: I LOVE the 'Meck Mecka Mow-Wow!' comment! They think Abelitz is trying to mack with FemmDan! Bwhahaha! Plus, Apparently Genisis has a thang for Merlitz. :)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Manawolf on November 22, 2006, 09:53:31 PM
They succeeded on their sense motive check.  And they're a little behind the times if they're just getting to checking up on Aary and Merlitz connection.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on November 22, 2006, 09:54:04 PM
I assume "Meck mecka mow-wow" is the equivalent of "Bow chicka bow-wow."

Grr, if the train weren't so bumpy, I'd be able to read the last thing she said.  What I think it says... "She probably isn't good in bed -blank-..."
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Kibin on November 22, 2006, 09:54:38 PM
...finding out Dan is a cubi for all the wrong reasons. How interesting.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Seth C Triggs on November 22, 2006, 09:54:53 PM
EVIL! EVIL! yet hilarious!

-Seth
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Dakata on November 22, 2006, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: HaZ×MaT on November 22, 2006, 09:54:04 PMGrr, if the train weren't so bumpy, I'd be able to read the last thing she said.  What I think it says... "She probably isn't good in bed -blank-..."
Naw, I think she said "She probably isn't even a real girl".
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Stygian on November 22, 2006, 09:56:37 PM
I can't but wonder why'd they be worried for Merlitz's sake though. He seems pretty experienced, and they should know that he wouldn't miss something like that.

Quote from: Kibin on November 22, 2006, 09:54:38 PM
...finding out Dan is a cubi for all the wrong reasons. How interesting.

You said it.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on November 22, 2006, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Dakata on November 22, 2006, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: HaZ×MaT on November 22, 2006, 09:54:04 PMGrr, if the train weren't so bumpy, I'd be able to read the last thing she said.  What I think it says... "She probably isn't good in bed -blank-..."
Naw, I think she said "She probably isn't even a real girl".
Haha, boys will be boys. :animesweat
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on November 22, 2006, 09:58:11 PM
humms the chemistry song " oh oh it's all about (jelousy) oh wa oh uh oh oh"
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Faerie Alex on November 22, 2006, 09:59:04 PM
QuoteShe probably isn't even a real girl
Interesting...Is that the jealousy speaking, or does she know the truth?
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Dakata on November 22, 2006, 10:00:02 PM
Quote from: modelincard on November 22, 2006, 09:59:04 PM
QuoteShe probably isn't even a real girl
Interesting...Is that the jealousy speaking, or does she know the truth?
It's the jealousy, of course. :P Only a jealous girl would say that.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Nino on November 22, 2006, 10:00:33 PM
ah, she's a lioness. Took me what, five strips to realize that? Haha.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Manawolf on November 22, 2006, 10:00:39 PM
Wait, now I get it.  Got the detect magic going, since it was used for the change.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Stygian on November 22, 2006, 10:01:02 PM
Yeh. She's infatuated with him. But she still hit dead on. Now, all I'm waiting for is the dispel and the Dan in a sagging dress.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Aisha deCabre on November 22, 2006, 10:02:12 PM
Heh!  She called it without even knowing it.  That happens alot with me too.

Boy, would Merl be on the edge...one crush, two crush...crushed...three crush. :p
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Landon_Fox on November 22, 2006, 10:20:16 PM
Two bucks says the adventurers head back after the reporter leaves, finds Abel who has already shed his Merlitz disguise, and think he's the incubus threatening Merlitz.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Alan Garou on November 22, 2006, 10:22:48 PM
Well, just as I suspected, she was flirting with Merbelitz. I think she's got it right with suspecting that Abel has a crush on Dan. And, yes, she did say "She probably isn't even a real girl." All hail the mumbly lioness! :bow
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 22, 2006, 10:25:04 PM
o/~
But you, my green-eyed girl..
do you remember when we used to sing...
sha la la la la la la la la ti da
....

Yeah, that's probably enough to identify the song. :-)

Quote from: Akisohida on November 22, 2006, 09:52:00 PM
Apparently Genisis has a thang for Merlitz. :)

Mmhmm. Why else would she strip (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_060.php) for him? :-)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: DigitalMan on November 22, 2006, 10:48:36 PM
Ahh, so that's why it took so long to color Gen's boobs...

This is likely to end in all sorts of awkward.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Boog on November 22, 2006, 11:06:27 PM
Ha! Oh that's rich! Merlitz goes off adventuring again, after breaking up with his Cubi girlfriend. Two incubi disguise themselves as him and his boss on the day his old adventuring party comes into town, and one of them has a crush on him and thinks he's dating his boss! HIJINKS ENSUE! Sitcomesqueity aside, she's probably gonna try to kill Dan. How great was his reputation as an adventuror again? Good enough for them to recognise him if/when he ditches the disguise?
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Alondro on November 22, 2006, 11:48:31 PM
*Charline snorts*  Well, I can understand her reaction.  We lions are perfect, after all!   

*Charles will agree wholeheartedly!  It's either that or painful disembowling again...*  :<

*Charline continues*  And now I see where a major battle could begin, oh yes!  Things are right on the cusp of an upheaval!  *grabs a bucket of mice to munch while awaiting the bloodshed*   >:3
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Manawolf on November 22, 2006, 11:50:52 PM
More like perfectionists.  Jealousy isn't a sign of perfection.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Supercheese on November 22, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: Alondro on November 22, 2006, 11:48:31 PM
*Charline continues*  And now I see where a major battle could begin, oh yes!  Things are right on the cusp of an upheaval!  *grabs a bucket of mice to munch while awaiting the bloodshed*   >:3

Ugh... I was going to munch some popcorn, but I don't think I will now.

*considers 'liberating' the mice for all of about .3 seconds, but quickly realizes how abjectly stupid and futile such an endeavor would be*
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Grenn on November 23, 2006, 12:15:58 AM
Heh, so if they couldn't detect Abel's morphing, then one could assume that a Cubi shapeshifting doesn't elave magic traces. At least experianced ones.

It's possible that inexperianced Cubi that shift leave a trace. Though Dan's was a result of outside forces, I would think the principal could be the same. So if Dan actually did it himself he'd probably leave a similar magic trace.

Otherwise they wouldn't think it was a Cubi since for that to be true, Cubi morphing would leave no magic traces :)

Ow. My head hurts. Time to play more Wii........ :p
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: Landon_Fox on November 22, 2006, 10:20:16 PM
Two bucks says the adventurers head back after the reporter leaves, finds Abel who has already shed his Merlitz disguise, and think he's the incubus threatening Merlitz.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Dan will make Abel get rid of his disguise first.

But if he doesn't, I'm betting that Abel will be incapacitated and the perma-Danielle that everybody is so looking forward to will happen.  Perhaps even duelling Alexsis.

P.S. This is my 42nd post and thus contains the answer to the question of Life, the Universe and Everything.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on November 23, 2006, 12:19:12 AM
Quote from: Grenn on November 23, 2006, 12:15:58 AM
Heh, so if they couldn't detect Abel's morphing, then one could assume that a Cubi shapeshifting doesn't elave magic traces. At least experianced ones.

It's possible that inexperianced Cubi that shift leave a trace. Though Dan's was a result of outside forces, I would think the principal could be the same. So if Dan actually did it himself he'd probably leave a similar magic trace.

Otherwise they wouldn't think it was a Cubi since for that to be true, Cubi morphing would leave no magic traces :)

Ow. My head hurts. Time to play more Wii........ :p
Either that, or the magic trace they picked up was the same from both of them, so they just assumed that it was all coming from Dan, since they trust Merlitz.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Grenn on November 23, 2006, 12:21:31 AM
True enough.

Also, upon closer inspection, the last line actually is: "She probably isn't even a real girl"

So we probably haven't seen the end of this. Also, it seems like Cubi/Being relationships are not a huge of a taboo as one may think. Since Pegasus and that Amazon have commited themselves to assuming that... well... *cough* meka meka wow wow :p between Merlitz and Lexi in their eyes.

So if they eventually did learn the truth that Aary was there and was with Merlitz, and Dan and Abel are living there and have been for a while, it wouldn't be a big deal. Since it seems that being a Cubi in itself isn't a crime. It just makes you much more suspicious to everyone. :D
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Cogidubnus on November 23, 2006, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: HaZ×MaT on November 23, 2006, 12:19:12 AM
Either that, or the magic trace they picked up was the same from both of them, so they just assumed that it was all coming from Dan, since they trust Merlitz.

I think, that they detected the spell cast by Abel on Dan, and that Cubi morphing, being a natural ability, does not require spellcasting per se, thusly leaving no morphing magic to detect.

At least, this would seem to make the most sense.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Madmann135 on November 23, 2006, 12:35:08 AM
There are lines like Trough is stranger than fiction...
This is one of my favorite comic skits.

A charactor says something so outragous and weird that in all likelyhood it's not true but in that unique situation it is.

I wonder what will happen if this happens
Destania exscorts Alexsi hack home to Lost Lake just as the reporters left.  At that same moment many things happen.  Dan and Abel drop the disguises, the adventurers come in (faced with 3 skilled cubi and a really deadly bartender) as Abel drops his Merlitz disguise.


But knowing Amber something more intresting and climactical will happen.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Zedd on November 23, 2006, 12:39:11 AM
There goes the smell of chaos again
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Aisha deCabre on November 23, 2006, 12:41:40 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on November 23, 2006, 12:35:08 AM
There are lines like Trough is stranger than fiction...
This is one of my favorite comic skits.

A charactor says something so outragous and weird that in all likelyhood it's not true but in that unique situation it is.

I wonder what will happen if this happens
Destania exscorts Alexsi hack home to Lost Lake just as the reporters left.  At that same moment many things happen.  Dan and Abel drop the disguises, the adventurers come in (faced with 3 skilled cubi and a really deadly bartender) as Abel drops his Merlitz disguise.


But knowing Amber something more intresting and climactical will happen.

And knowing it's this comic, maybe something done for the sake of comedy or irony or comedic irony.  :mowtongue  Still, it would be neat to see Destania visit Lost Lake.  Dan probably wouldn't make semi-racist comments about Cubi with a Cubus mother there.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Madmann135 on November 23, 2006, 01:16:46 AM
Knowing Dan if his mom shows up he will have a 45 second trip all across the emotional spectrum.

Angry because she didn't tell him about his cubi heritage and cubi future.
Glad that she's safe and well
Upset because they havn't seen each other in a long time
confused because he's just Dan.

and that's all that I can think of in 30 seconds
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: e_voyager on November 23, 2006, 01:59:16 AM
amber did surprize me there still knowing Dan he's not likely to cause trouble in his sister's form she'd hurt him bad as the "talked" it over like Widly and Biggs. speaking of which it's turkey day soon so where did the turkey's go?.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Hellcat on November 23, 2006, 02:04:22 AM
let us all remember that Biggs never did find out Dan was a guy, he may have thought Alexsi was the disguised Dan he was infatuated with, and wanted to marry him. The  very thought rots my mind  :aack
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Cogidubnus on November 23, 2006, 02:05:33 AM
Well, not as such. Destenia recognized that her daughter, being Alexis, and not Danielle, was up for kidnapping. At least, it would seem to indicate Biggs wants Alexis.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Grenn on November 23, 2006, 02:42:30 AM
True, but Biggs may have gotten intel that the person he was tricked by was named Alexi. It's very possible that one of his people mistakened Alexi for Dan when Dan was dressed like a woman. Said person would have been at Lost Lake, thought they had the one that tricked him, and sent back the news. They do look a lot alike after all.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: King Of Hearts on November 23, 2006, 03:11:15 AM
CATFIGHT!

*hiss* *hiss*

now whether it be Dan or Alexi be involved with Gen, would make for interesting scenarios.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2006, 04:12:34 AM
Oh dear.  I was hoping this wouldn't happen for a while.  Interesting that they went for Danielle rather than Merbel, and somehow I feel strangely happy about the idea that Beings don't really know much about 'cubi capabilities or how they work.

I wonder how this is going to play out?  They don't seem to have decided whether to go back immediately or not.  Do they really hate Merlitz so much as to try and ruin his bosses' life and lose his job for him?
I think the key question is whether they can wait until after the reporter has left.

Amber, if you do the wallpaper wars again, could we have an Alexsi vs Alexsi fight scene as one of the options?   >:3
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Sienna Maiu - M T on November 23, 2006, 04:16:50 AM
Hilarity shall ensue.
And I think that might just be "wishful thinking" from Genesis's part.
And is it just me... or did Nitemyste used to be female? -(okay clearly I was wrong about that part...)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2006, 06:25:41 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on November 23, 2006, 01:16:46 AM
Knowing Dan if his mom shows up he will have a 45 second trip all across the emotional spectrum.

Angry because she didn't tell him about his cubi heritage and cubi future.
Glad that she's safe and well
Upset because they havn't seen each other in a long time
confused because he's just Dan.

and that's all that I can think of in 30 seconds

...
Worried about what Alexsi will do to him
Concerned about what brings Destania back
Fearful that she might object to Matilda
Confident that he's looked after the reporters well
Panicky about what Merbel is doing with the lake


... should I go on?
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: ITOS on November 23, 2006, 07:51:14 AM
[EDIT] Never mind.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: AndersW on November 23, 2006, 09:47:47 AM
I think that when Merbel sets the lake on fire, or whatever he is going to do.  The party will think that Merlitz is under attack and trying to defend himself, and they will come running to the rescue at just the wrong time.

Also I went and zoomed in on the last piece of text and I believe it says "She probably isn't even a real girl"

(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6048/untitledjt2.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2006, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: AndersW on November 23, 2006, 09:47:47 AM
I think that when Merbel sets the lake on fire, or whatever he is going to do.  The party will think that Merlitz is under attack and trying to defend himself, and they will come running to the rescue at just the wrong time.

Quite possible.  The other angle is that they may see him while he's doing it and realise it isn't him (no flame-wings or fiery eyes!).  Of course, what the reporter will make of four marauding bandits attempting to murder the owner of Lost Lake Inn is quite another story, and arguably better copy >:3

"They just came at me," said Alexsi, age 27.  "If it hadn't been for Merlitz, who knows what might have happened."
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Stygian on November 23, 2006, 10:22:25 AM
They don't seem quite that belligerent. I don't think they would just stomp down the door and start throwing curses and swords all around...
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2006, 10:48:13 AM
... we can hope. :-)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Jack McSlay on November 23, 2006, 11:09:24 AM
Considering they're likely to return after the reporter leaves, they'd find Dan back to normal, Abel complete with headwings, and no merl. Things are likely tobe interesting  :eager

also I begin do wonder what would have happened if Aary didn't leave merl

"We`re  here because we're investigating cubi, have you seen any?"
"Oh, of course, she's my girlfriend"
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Boog on November 23, 2006, 02:27:35 PM
The lioness will probably be fairly belligerant, seeing as she has exess reason to be. As for the rest, they'll probably be convinced when Abel starts setting the lake on fire. After all, they don't know much about cubi, so they may think it's mind control. Wouldn't be too far fetched with all the other psychic abilities at a cubi's disposal.

And as for the "she probably isn't even a real girl," bit, aparantly this comic being on the internet is infecting it with "female body type in an MMORPG" syndrome.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Grenn on November 23, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
Well, Aary would have kicked all 4 of their butts without even trying, so... :)

After all, I don't think she's ever lost. I recall that whole knight soul in the bottle thing..... in fact I think he's still there. Bet he's mad.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2006, 03:48:50 PM
Hey, Aary lost against Abel, didn't she? I mean, de-dressu counts as winning, even if he paid for it....


... at least in my book :-)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: Jack McSlay on November 23, 2006, 11:09:24 AMConsidering they're likely to return after the reporter leaves, they'd find Dan back to normal, Abel complete with headwings, and no merl. Things are likely tobe interesting  :eager

Heh.  I suspect that Dan would just come clean.

Bad move, but that's Dan's style.

[Reporter leaves.  Door slams open]
Gen: Merlitz!  You need to know that Alexsi's a succubus!
[Merlitz is nowhere to be found.  Dan and Abel were chatting, presently Abel curls into the fetal position.]
Dan: Huh?  No, Destania's just her stepmother.
Gen: Look, I was just in here and that girl had transformation magic all over her.
Dan: Oh, uh, that was me.
Gen: ...Za?  Daniel Ti'Fiona?

Dan: Yeah, I'm an incubus, and so is Abel here.  I'm not pleased to be one, and Abel helped me transform into Alexsi, my sister.  She's been kidnapped, you see.  By the twinks.  So he transformed me into Alexsi and himself into Merlitz...Merlitz has been gone for a few days.  Dunno where.  Here's his note.

Gen: I...seee...
[scene change.  Tollbooth.]
Nightmyste: We're gonna need more men!  We've got two incubi over here and they've already kidnapped Merlitz and both the Ti'Fiona children!
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Zedd on November 23, 2006, 04:04:10 PM
Anyone well better know this is not the time to panic
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Aridas on November 23, 2006, 04:14:05 PM
I'm sure if they knew him and alexsi by name, they'd know their relations too... I think wasn't it Dan who was the only one left in the dark about that? I can't remember.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 23, 2006, 04:14:05 PM
I'm sure if they knew him and alexsi by name, they'd know their relations too... I think wasn't it Dan who was the only one left in the dark about that? I can't remember.

How long has it been since Destania left?  I'm betting that they'd know Dan from his reputation as an adventurer, and Alexsi would be hard to forget if they ever went to the inn.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: AmigaDragon on November 23, 2006, 04:31:58 PM
Quote from: Madmann135 on November 23, 2006, 01:16:46 AM
Knowing Dan if his mom shows up he will have a 45 second trip all across the emotional spectrum.

Angry because she didn't tell him about his cubi heritage and cubi future.
Glad that she's safe and well
Upset because they havn't seen each other in a long time
Actually, I don't think it was all that long ago since Dan saw Mom safe and well in Twink Territories.  Upset about the cubi heritage secret, perhaps.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on November 23, 2006, 04:31:58 PMActually, I don't think it was all that long ago since Dan saw Mom safe and well in Twink Territories.  Upset about the cubi heritage secret, perhaps.

You know, I'd really like to see that clarified.

Ooh!  Ooh!  Question from the reader:

Dear Amber--

In 405, you make it sound like no one knows what happened to Destania, while in 78, Dan seems to see his mother.  Was 78 just a throwaway joke, or does Dan (and Wildy) really know that his mother is alive and well in the Twink territories?
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Amber Williams on November 23, 2006, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 23, 2006, 04:51:25 PM
Ooh!  Ooh!  Question from the reader:

Dear Amber--

In 405, you make it sound like no one knows what happened to Destania, while in 78, Dan seems to see his mother.  Was 78 just a throwaway joke, or does Dan (and Wildy) really know that his mother is alive and well in the Twink territories?

Dear Reader--

Grow some patience and stop trying to jump throttle on the storyline just for the sake of knowing the answer sooner.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Manawolf on November 23, 2006, 05:03:38 PM
Not like she has the answer just yet, since you're asking about a strip before the comic became less nonsensical.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 23, 2006, 04:58:55 PMDear Reader--

Grow some patience and stop trying to jump throttle on the storyline just for the sake of knowing the answer sooner.

Well, how was I to know that question was part of the storyline...or indeed ever to be answered conclusively?
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2006, 05:15:56 PM
A sudden thought: Nitemyste was able to identify the morph spell spell used.  Do they also have the ability to cast some kind of 'Negate Magic' or 'Dispel Field' spell?  Because if so, that would mess everything up really properly.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Amber Williams on November 23, 2006, 05:22:27 PM
It doesn't help that your question tends to be asked seventeen times repeatedly in various (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_405.php") ways.  Usually with a "durh hurh...you made a plothole here :B" attitude I should add.  Note, this isn't you...I'm more referring to the emails I have gotten in the past.  You just happen to have triggered a response.

It should be obvious that the older DMFA's were more campy and a lot more amatuerish than the storylines of current.  The fact most everyone points it out adds to it.   However one of the many aspects of becomming a better writer and creator is to be able to take your prior mistakes and fix them so that it works.  And that's what I'm trying to do if people would just give me the chance and the time.

If people reallty want me to just go "lol it was me being silly back then and has no reference", I will gladly do so.  It saves me the time and lets me scrap a few storyarchs in the process. 
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Zedd on November 23, 2006, 05:34:39 PM
Thats why Amber carrys a big shinney shinney bat on hand to make sure most stay in line :shifty
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Amber Williams on November 23, 2006, 05:43:23 PM
No Zedd. I don't carry a bat and people don't need to stay in line.  Thats not the point I was wanting to make. -_-'

It's just that there are various questions that people seem to like asking that I can't honestly answer without spoiling things.  And the issue of comic 78 seems to be the big one most people like to bring up.  So much that I made comic 405 in response to the issue.

It's frustrating, and every now and then it causes me to react quick and bitter.  Cause I can't push the storyline along without causing a loss of quality....and when I get email after email of it...I begin to question if quality should be sacrificed for just getting it done and over with.  And I dont want that...and I doubt any of the people emailing/asking do either. But its the impression I walk away with.

I guess what I'm saying is: I have a plan. I might not have had it when I started...but I have one now.  Have faith that I wont mess up too big and that I'll entertain you. :3
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Tapewolf on November 23, 2006, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 23, 2006, 05:43:23 PM
It's frustrating, and every now and then it causes me to react quick and bitter.  Cause I can't push the storyline along without causing a loss of quality....and when I get email after email of it...I begin to question if quality should be sacrificed for just getting it done and over with.  And I dont want that...and I doubt any of the people emailing/asking do either. But its the impression I walk away with.
This sounds like good material for one of those "questions from the readers" strips - that would probably stop the flood and it would also have the benefit of remaining in the archives to dissuade most future readers from asking it too.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 06:31:50 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 23, 2006, 05:22:27 PMIf people reallty want me to just go "lol it was me being silly back then and has no reference", I will gladly do so.  It saves me the time and lets me scrap a few storyarchs in the process.

Well, the most important thing is that you stay true to the characters and the story.

If the characters do something that they're not supposed to, that's no good.  You've got strong characterization going on here.  You should let the characters decide where they want to go, and if the characterization of Destania works best with Dan having seen her in the twink territories, then that's how it should be.

If, on the other hand, it proves to be a handicap, shoehorning it in probably isn't the best idea.  I probably speak for a few people here when I say that I don't want a Crisis on Infinite Lakes.

I don't know what the plot will be, so I have to assume that you're doing a good job of it.  And I know that you've done a good job in the past, so I'm more than a little bit optimistic.

...so see, folks, we don't necessarily know that Dan saw his mother safe and well, so let's not assume and let Amber decide what goes on. 

Or...you could read my all-mow fancomic and lose interest after the second strip.

P.S. I do not have an all-mow fancomic, so please stop e-mailing me! D:
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2006, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: Zedd on November 23, 2006, 05:34:39 PM
Thats why Amber carrys a big shinney shinney bat on hand to make sure most stay in line :shifty
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 23, 2006, 05:43:23 PM
No Zedd. I don't carry a bat and people don't need to stay in line.  Thats not the point I was wanting to make. -_-'

Yeah. It's Fluffy who carries the Wand of Motivation....


*grin*


more seriously, I'm happy to just wait. An answer of "that's plot convenient, go away" is fine by me - but you've answered this one several times that I've seen, not just in the comic but also on the forums. So I cna understand Amber getting tired (oh, so -very- tired :-) of repeating herself...
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Sid on November 23, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on November 23, 2006, 05:22:27 PM
It should be obvious that the older DMFA's were more campy and a lot more amatuerish than the storylines of current.  The fact most everyone points it out adds to it.   However one of the many aspects of becomming a better writer and creator is to be able to take your prior mistakes and fix them so that it works.  And that's what I'm trying to do if people would just give me the chance and the time.

I think the most beautiful way would be for you to go along with the plan to unify the archives into one stream (excluding a few inevitable plotholes few people notice). The early strips do have a few rather odd deviations from what is later considered to be Full Canon, but you did manage to smooth out a few things in the past (like that rifle Jyrras uses, which is later more or less touched again during the revelations in his lab, the W-S branding and the party that kicked out Merlitz), and I think it works well. Such pointers to the past are always nice, and people who read the archive also get a nice "Whoa!" effect and maybe even ask themselves if you planned it in advance.

The recent wave of speculation and nagging surely doesn't help, but I'd be somewhat disappointed if some strips are suddenly declared to be fully out-of-canon (like the 78th strip) just because of the nagging. But in the end, the decision is yours to make. You could even declare complete arcs out-of-canon. (:P)

Edit: Ye Gods, I shouldn't post at 2am... I made the same point in FOUR ways. *streamlines a little bit*
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Azlan on November 23, 2006, 08:21:47 PM
Everything was carefully structured and planned years in advance.  What appears as campy and plothole ridden is a carefully constructed plan of deception and expert misdirection.  Under careful analysis, this can be determined if sufficient effort is placed in extrapolation and an expert team of NSA analysts are employed to decipher the carefully concealed and subtle nuances.  Now please resume standard speculation.

:mowdizzy
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: DigitalMan on November 23, 2006, 08:31:42 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 23, 2006, 06:29:47 PM
This sounds like good material for one of those "questions from the readers" strips - that would probably stop the flood and it would also have the benefit of remaining in the archives to dissuade most future readers from asking it too.

I agree :B While there are dozens of other questions I'd like answered, those will likely be answered in-comic eventually. However, what Amber just answered here will never be seen by newer members, and quite possibly by some current ones; not to mention anyone not on the boards. I actually find myself asking things that have been answered in the past, because I'm still rather new. So I don't think we'd mind at all if Amber tossed in a QftR strip to save some sanity :3
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: superluser on November 23, 2006, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 23, 2006, 08:31:42 PMI actually find myself asking things that have been answered in the past, because I'm still rather new. So I don't think we'd mind at all if Amber tossed in a QftR strip to save some sanity :3

You know, a FAQ file might be a good idea.  Even an unofficial one.

Quote from: Azlan on November 23, 2006, 08:21:47 PMNow please resume standard speculation.

With gusto!
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Landon_Fox on November 23, 2006, 09:34:52 PM
You forgot to include Amber's Freemason advisor, Azlan.   >:3
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: chaotik on November 23, 2006, 11:06:08 PM
Meka-meka Mow-wow.....hmm...now all we need is a couple of Jyrass's inventions.....


then we can have a Mecha-Mow!   



WOW!
:mowsmile


ba-DOOM-boom........
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Amber Williams on November 23, 2006, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: chaotik on November 23, 2006, 11:06:08 PM
Meka-meka Mow-wow.....hmm...now all we need is a couple of Jyrass's inventions.....


then we can have a Mecha-Mow!   



WOW!
:mowsmile


ba-DOOM-boom........


.....get off my internets! :U
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 23, 2006, 11:26:39 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 23, 2006, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on November 23, 2006, 08:31:42 PMI actually find myself asking things that have been answered in the past, because I'm still rather new. So I don't think we'd mind at all if Amber tossed in a QftR strip to save some sanity :3

You know, a FAQ file might be a good idea.  Even an unofficial one.

You mean, like, say, in the wiki, if we get that working?

Yes, that sounds like a good idea...
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: LionHeart on November 24, 2006, 01:52:26 AM
Well, it seems like everyone is in favour of the wiki; it's just that no-one seems to want the job of actually starting the thing up...
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Boog on November 24, 2006, 01:28:20 PM
Sorta like the story of the mice and the bell. Nobody wants to set up the wiki because then somebody's going to overwrite it with their views, and nobody wants to see their stuff overwritten or their name attatched to whatever the new person writes.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: KarlOmega1 on November 24, 2006, 07:01:25 PM
Just got back from my parents for thanksgiving...now that I have seen the comics that I missed over those couple days, I have one thing to say...

Jealousy is never a good thing...even from an attractive femme like Gen...
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: keybounce on December 06, 2006, 01:33:29 AM
78 and 405 are not a problem, at all.

Here is one possible answer:

Dan goes off adventuring, doesn't leave a forwarding address, moves a lot, etc. Always on the move, blah blah. Family doesn't know where to find him.

Being out of touch with things, he comes across his mother in twink territory (#78), and is suprised by it. Leaves without saying hello, for whatever reason.

Later, in 405, Amber starts to explain things -- his mother in twink territories, him off on an adventure with no one knowing where, when the cat (It is a cat, right?) stops the story.

Today, with Dan living at the lake, with his sister, at this point we see that his sister did not know that his mother was in twink territory.

The conclusion: Dan, having seen his mother there hundreds of strips ago came to the conclusion, "No, that must just be some other lady that looks like my mother". Remember, she would not have been in Cubi form (Dan didn't know he was Cubi back then), so it would have just been another lady, and maybe just "Well, she's close, but not quite". Either her shapeshift was a little different, or Dan was mistaken.

Either way, it's not a point of problem. Years ago, Dan was wandering, and Destania didn't know where. Later, neither Alexi nor Dan knew where Destania was, and Dan mistook her for someone else. Since Destania didn't know where her children were, and her children didn't know where she was, until the kidnapping, the kidnapping is actually a family reunion, which is part of why Destania hasn't killed Biggs for this -- he's responsible for reuniting the family.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: Aridas on December 06, 2006, 01:40:02 AM
I doubt "another lady" would recognize him and call him Danny (at least, I think that's what the speech bubble said...)
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: keybounce on December 06, 2006, 05:30:55 AM
Whoops, I missed that response. Alright, need a different idea then.

Point is, these comics are not inconsistent with each other. Maybe strange, but not inconsistent.
Title: Re: 11/23/06: jelousy
Post by: FlameSword on December 06, 2006, 06:26:59 PM
Yeah it sais "She probaly isn't a real girl." If she knew that Dan-Alexsi is a cubi... :B