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Title: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: KarlOmega1 on November 07, 2006, 02:29:55 PM
Today's the day that we citizens of the USA vote for our senators, represenatives, and other state and local officials...

I have one question, though...I know that there's Republicans, Democrats, and Independents...Though I'm pretty much sure there was other political parties as well (in the US)...Does anybody know how many there are and can you list a few besides the ones I just stated?
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Cogidubnus on November 07, 2006, 02:42:33 PM
Independent covers everything that isn't Republican or Democrat.

There are a great number of independent parties. The Green party is one of the more well-known ones. The Libertarian is also another well-known third party. However, any party that is not Republican or Democrat is subject to the moniker of independent.

Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Gornemant on November 07, 2006, 02:46:49 PM
vote for communism  :B
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: thegayhare on November 07, 2006, 03:14:34 PM
I was surprised I actually had to vote for some of the candidates...

there were about 7 people running unopposed

But we had 5 different candidates for state Governor, Dem, rep, Independent, Green, and the tax rebellion
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Zedd on November 07, 2006, 03:15:04 PM
Crap I forgot to vote! *bolts*
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: ITOS on November 07, 2006, 03:20:56 PM
I only vote in polls, never elections. :shifty
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Vidar on November 07, 2006, 04:21:06 PM
Vote European!  :eager
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Stygian on November 07, 2006, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: Vidar on November 07, 2006, 04:21:06 PM
Vote European!  :eager

Hear, hear. Be an arrogant, greedy and lowly bureaucrat you too!

I'm European. That alone should mean something.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 07, 2006, 06:05:30 PM
... it means you're an arrogant, greedy, and lowly bureaucrat?
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Stygian on November 07, 2006, 06:23:44 PM
No. But it means I'm an untermensch. Now shut up and terror the Europeans. You want some decent people? Go to New Zealand, or Australia.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 07, 2006, 06:57:26 PM
Been there.

Both of them.

nice folks.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Damaris on November 07, 2006, 07:43:44 PM
would rather be there.

I did vote today.  Not that it will do me any good, living in the Bible belt as I do.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Stygian on November 07, 2006, 07:49:42 PM
Quote from: Damaris on November 07, 2006, 07:43:44 PM
living in the Bible belt as I do.

*shudders*

If there's one thing I can't stand, then it's organized religion. Institutionalized superstition!
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: DigitalMan on November 07, 2006, 07:59:37 PM
I'll vote when there's someone worth voting for, that's my stance.

Actually, I was considering making this my first time voting, but I'm quite uneducated on the subject as a whole. There are at the very least 18 compound issues to vote on, where can I find out exactly what the hell they all mean? What if I don't want to vote yes or no, can I leave it blank? I know we want Bob Taft out of office as governor, but then who do I choose?

And most importantly, are the machines working this time? I swear, a counting device should be the simplest damn thing to make, but last I checked they still haven't gotten it right.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: RJ on November 07, 2006, 08:10:16 PM
I wish I didn't have to vote :< It doesn't matter who I vote for in Australia- either way we're screwed.

Random fact- Australian people as a whole are some of the most generous in the world; however, our government is quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on November 07, 2006, 08:12:06 PM
I can't vote, and even if I could, I probably wouldn't. :P
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Hilary on November 07, 2006, 08:25:20 PM
Vote anarchy. :smile
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Aridas on November 07, 2006, 08:31:27 PM
vote for RJ as ruler of the world, it's simple as that. a few muffins to keep people in line and everything would be alright...
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Hilary on November 07, 2006, 08:35:12 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 07, 2006, 08:31:27 PM
vote for RJ as ruler of the world, it's simple as that. a few muffins to keep people in line and everything would be alright...

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/hilaryous14/Tijuana-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Aridas on November 07, 2006, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: Hilary on November 07, 2006, 08:35:12 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on November 07, 2006, 08:31:27 PM
vote for RJ as ruler of the world, it's simple as that. a few muffins to keep people in line and everything would be alright...

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/hilaryous14/Tijuana-1.jpg)
No, I'm not sure RJ wants just tijuana.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: RJ on November 07, 2006, 08:44:59 PM
Throw in all the Disneylands around the world, and we got a deal  :giggle
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: bill on November 07, 2006, 09:53:30 PM
Oh god, it's close as hell.


In the senate at least. The GOP is getting raped in the House.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Cvstos on November 07, 2006, 10:02:42 PM
Current status with many more raced yet to be called:

No possible GOP Pickups in the US Senate.  At least 3 GOP Seats in the Senate will fall to Democratic challengers: Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island.

Lieberman (I) will likely win in CT, creating a middle-of-the-road vote in the Senate.  It is unknown who he will caucus with.

Bernie Sanders (I) will win the in Vermont Senate race, and will side with the Democratic Party in most anything. If anything, this self-styled socialist is to the left of most Democrats.

The House, thus far, is trending Democratic with a net 3 seat boost to the blue, but there are a lot of seats yet to be called so this is far from over.

Two Democratic challengers have taken out GOP incumbents in Governor races (Massachusetts, Ohio).
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: bill on November 07, 2006, 10:04:02 PM
George Allen has a point over creepy-book-writer Webb in Virginia(GO CAVS! WOOOOO!).

VA SEN [91.53% IN]
R- ALLEN 1,042,414 49.82%
D- WEBB 1,024,756 48.98%
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: thegayhare on November 07, 2006, 10:14:01 PM
If you want live updates you can click here (http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2006/index.shtml)

Its the CBS automatic update
It shows the current count in house and senate as well as govenors along with 2004's totals broken down by party lines along with the change

as of typing this it's Senate dems up by 3 House dems up by 10 Gov dems up by 5

Edit:
Okay sorry to do this but it's 10:18 here and the polls have been closed for an hour but they are still running govenors political ads
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Damaris on November 07, 2006, 11:03:24 PM
To answer a question before:

You do not have to vote in all the races if you don't want to.  We abstained in all of the judge retention questions, as we knew nothing about the judges and didn't want to hurt or help them.

Next time you might want to call the election board and ask these questions.  That's what they get paid the big bucks to do.  It is hard to vote, though, especially when everything we tend to know about a person is them calling the other person a mean name.  I hate that about politics.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Darkmoon on November 07, 2006, 11:07:05 PM
That's why I don't bother watching commercials. Hard to get sucked into the mudslinging when I don't watch it.

Plus, I'm ultra-liberal. I vote Democrat unless it's in a race when my vote isn't as needed. Then I vote Green.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Cvstos on November 07, 2006, 11:27:33 PM
CNN, NBC: Democrats Projected To Win House

That alone will have the GOP worried.  With control of the House comes control of committee assignments and subpoena power, which means that the Democrats can force people to testify under oath and force people to turn over evidence.  That means investigation after investigation, exposed scandal after exposed scandal... if they do this right the next 24 months will be much like the last 3-4.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: bill on November 08, 2006, 06:08:07 AM
I doubt the GOP had any hopes of winning the house anyhow.


Mr. Creepy Books has a slim edge over Mr. Obscure Racial Slurs in VA.


VA SEN [99.75% IN]
R- ALLEN 1,162,327 49.22%
D- WEBB 1,170,686 49.58%
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: thegayhare on November 08, 2006, 06:36:51 AM
cording to CBS there are just 2 senate races that haven't been called yet leaving it 49 R, 47 D and 2 I

I think it would be truely amazing if those last two fell to the dems.  You'd have no clear magority and for once you might actualy see people coming together to work things out
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Tapewolf on November 08, 2006, 06:46:14 AM
Quote from: thegayhare on November 08, 2006, 06:36:51 AM
cording to CBS there are just 2 senate races that haven't been called yet leaving it 49 R, 47 D and 2 I
I think it would be truly amazing if those last two fell to the dems.  You'd have no clear majority and for once you might actually see people coming together to work things out

I read earlier that in the event of a tie the vice president can use his power to break the tie.  I don't know how the senate works in the US, but in the UK parliment, when you have such a close tie the opposition can often win votes on particular issue - if they remain united while a few of the ruling party abstain.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: bill on November 08, 2006, 02:48:50 PM
One of the I's is a socialist from *surprise* Vermont, and the other's Joe Lieberman, who is comprehensively screwing over the Dems. He may side with the GOP on some issues, giving them the advantage.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Supercheese on November 08, 2006, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on November 08, 2006, 02:48:50 PM
the other's Joe Lieberman, who is comprehensively screwing over the Dems. He may side with the GOP on some issues, giving them the advantage.

Oh yeah, that's going to be really interesting. Lieberman didn't win the Dem. primary... but he still won the Senate seat.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Zina on November 08, 2006, 04:10:05 PM
It might be too soon to say for sure, but it looks like my uncle has won a position in the State Legislator. Last I checked, he was ahead in the polls, 53% to 46%. So it looks pretty damn good. If he does win, he'll be representiing Spokane and that whole area. And he'll be the second indian ever to be a State Representative in Washington.
Still too soon to be sure, but regardless. First good news I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Netami on November 08, 2006, 04:23:27 PM
Politics, meh. I liked the status quo. But not enough to vote to keep it in. Now I'll like the new status quo just as much. Pretty chaotic standing, honestly...

I didn't think Native Americans ran for office. I thought they just... well... the full-blooded ones... Casinos...
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Zina on November 08, 2006, 04:26:10 PM
THEY RUN FOR FULL BLOODED CASINOS?!!!

Well, I guess we could always use more casinos. Filled with blood.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Darkmoon on November 08, 2006, 04:32:53 PM
Mmm... bloodied casinos...
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Netami on November 08, 2006, 04:40:01 PM
Isn't there a new 007 movie coming out... Er, never mind.

I think our country needs more Native American politicians crying over trash, though. Hopefully he will win. 
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Zina on November 08, 2006, 04:59:24 PM
Someone's got to cry over it.
*single tear* :'C
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Zedd on November 08, 2006, 08:03:31 PM
I heard that dude from the comercial was itailan or french....I hate when tv does that
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Alan Garou on November 08, 2006, 09:07:27 PM
Dangit, we got Rick Perry again. One should be allowed to vote against somebody, and not just for someone else. They did that during the Greek empire. Why not now?
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: bill on November 08, 2006, 09:42:20 PM
Creepy Books has defeated Obscure Racist Comments.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/08/D8L993C82.html
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Alondro on November 09, 2006, 11:25:32 PM
The Web-Allen race just goes to show, people don't mind sexual perversions as much as they hate it when you happen to use one or two racial slurs (one so obscure I'm still not sure what it means) out of context.  Though... wasn't Webb also the one accused of shouting racist things from a car as a teenager while firing guns?  I haven't had the time to follow all the scandels.  This election, there were too many to count, and I have to work.  :p 

Well, we'll see how the tune changes if he's caught acting out one of his literary scenes.  *Charles then remembers the massive Democratic support for Jerry Studds after he was caught with a 17-year old*  Oh... well... uhm, I guess NAMBLA will be growing in popularity in Virginia then...  I had the misfortune of reading one of the passages from one of Webb's books... very close to vomiting afterward.  I'm a furry weirdo... I've seen very twisted things... the single paragraph I read put me in shock and I hope I never see another word written by that freak again.  I just sat there, repeating "Oh my god..." for several minutes.  I would normally say go find the book yourself for proof.  Trust me, you really REALLY don't want to.  But if you feel so inclined, just remember I warned you. 

Of course, NJ re-elected Bob Menendez... the second time our state of morons voted in someone under federal indictment for corruption, mob ties, etc. *the previous being Toricelli*  And then after property taxes and taxes on everything under the sun soar again, and more billions of tax dollars in our state simply vanish without a trace, they'll all be complaining about it and the next voting cycle... they'll vote in the same people again.  Having lived in NJ all my life, I can honestly say this state has a disproportionate number of complete idiots.  They get raped by the state government every single time, then turn around and vote for them when they're promised "Oh we won't do it again!"  We had a $6 billion school construction bill approved, which was then rasied to $12 billion.  Only one school was ever built with the money, and it had to be torn down because it was built on soil that was contaminated with toxins.  The rest of the money just kinda went away.  A lot of politically connected contractors, lawyers, consultants, and 'assistants' became millionaires off that money.   Now they want billions more to build the schools they didn't build last time.  In the Camden, NJ school system alone, $300 million is GONE, and by that I mean no one knows where it went!    :mowtongue 
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Cogidubnus on November 09, 2006, 11:30:43 PM
And what does this tell us gentelmen? Repeat after me: The Government is Bad, and Corrupt.

Governments are like perfume. Less is more.
Title: Re: Nov. 7th- today's the day!
Post by: Cvstos on November 11, 2006, 04:36:36 PM
Alondro:

From what I understand (info from reliable sources on this is surprisingly sparse), the books he wrote were about his experiences in Vietnam, and let me tell you, every bit of evidence on the Vietnam War I've ever seen says that it sucked.  McCain had praised the novels, and I've even heard them being described as required reading for Marine Corps Officers.  If that much is true, then it's highly likely that the attack, which was started by Drudge (a right-wing rumor monger with the integrity of wet pasta), is nothing more than a Republican hit piece.  Like so many smears in politics (and especially the GOP), you're got to wear night vision goggles to see through the lies to what's really going on.

Now, Allen using racist slurs, well, we've got that on video tape.