Okay, it's bad enough that they overpriced the PS3 and are becoming overprotective copyright nannies, but this has gone too far.
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3901
I can't believe that Sony would do this. But to shut down a service that has been one of the cornerstones of the gaming community is just sickening. What's next? Is Sony going to sue GameFAQS now?
Considering the price tag of the PS3 (and the $70-$80 games), and adding this on, it's clear that Sony wants to get out of the gaming business quickly.
I can't believe I'm actually saying this... but desperate times call for desperate measures... Go Wii60.
Curse you Sony... CURSE YOOOOU!
Seriously though, if this isn't the last straw, then whatever they have up their sleeves for next time is going to be a real doozy.
(Also to be mentioned: Sony have said that they will take legal action against anyone selling imported consoles to EU consumers before Christmas.)
Ya know its funny only a few years ago Microsoft was just about one everyones 'sh*t list' but they really cleaned up their act....And now its Sony's turn, but my god Microsoft never got this bad even it its worst. I think Sony's still warming up too...
All sony did was make up a bunch of false reasons of "concern" just to shut them down. What I'm wondering is why they can't just DROP sony and keep their other things up. No other company is that idiotic to pull something like that, except maybe microsoft.
Quote from: Paladin Sheppard on October 25, 2006, 12:07:28 PM
Ya know its funny only a few years ago Microsoft was just about one everyones 'sh*t list' but they really cleaned up their act....And now its Sony's turn, but my god Microsoft never got this bad even it its worst. I think Sony's still warming up too...
Nah, Microsoft got it plenty bad, too. The thing about Microsoft, though, is that they tend to learn and adapt very quickly, and from day 1 they've been concerned with growing gaming with a social aspect, and staying connected with their fans to get feedback. They're literally like the Borg (just with better propaganda).
Meanwhile, Sony is simply arrogant.
Will consoles and manufacturers ever give euro gamers a freaking break? :<
I think, by the end of this whole thing, market share will be roughly equal on all 3 sides, and I'm sure that song had a massive bulk of it last gen, I was leaning to the PS3, then the price dropped and I'm sling shotted to Nintendo land. There has to be some sort of understanding in Sony of this situation, maybe they know something we don't, and they will somehow win big on this, but I'm not seeing it.
I hope sony chokes on their PS3s.
Does anyone know a proper alternative to lik-sang?
Thats why me and FKK will be having fun with our Wii :P
So many Wii jokes... and yet the PS3 is still easier to make fun of.
Such as...PISS OFF 3
...I'm pretty sure Supercheese meant something more intelligent than namecalling...
I know but I like to have fun my kitty friend *hands him a cookie*
Fun? FUN?? YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN? Headcrabs are EVERYWHERE and the entire city's been taken over by semi-mindless, gruesome looking zombies, and you want to have FUN?? There's no TIME for fun! Grab a shotgun and get your ass out there! Sony could spread beyond this one city if we let a single one survive!
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 25, 2006, 04:10:12 PM
Fun? FUN?? YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN? Headcrabs are EVERYWHERE and the entire city's been taken over by semi-mindless, gruesome looking zombies, and you want to have FUN??
(I live in the country) :P
Dont worry I got a plasma caster gun turret powered by a Taski to keep them at bay!
Quote from: Vidar on October 25, 2006, 01:53:46 PM
I hope sony chokes on their PS3s.
Does anyone know a proper alternative to lik-sang?
Never used either one myself, but I think Play Asia (http://www.play-asia.com/) offers a similar selection. They might be in the same boat when it comes to Sony imports, though.
I'm not really sure what to think about this whole "Sony shut down lik-sang" business. The more I read about it, the more it seems like lik-sang just wanted out of the business. That's just conjecture, but if they're not showing up in court, doesn't sound like they're trying hard to me (yes, yes, they're based in Hong Kong, and the court was in England, but still).
And like I think I said, there's no reason they couldn't actually get rid of that crap that sony has an issue with, therefore solving all problems. I think they might just be making it up.
Well must be making it all up..Its so hard to focus the entire nature of Sonys being...But what game company isnt going to the crapper now and then
I can think of one... >_>
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 25, 2006, 03:57:56 PM
...I'm pretty sure Supercheese meant something more intelligent than namecalling...
Yes, I did. Thank you.
I can't believe what my dad said to me a few nights ago:
"Hey, shouldn't we get a PS3? We need a blu-ray player..."
I just stared at him for a while before reminding him of the massive price discrepancy, Nintendo's clear superiority, and the fact the he himself has been anti-Sony since day 1. He eventually admitted that he didn't really mean it, but it was still odd hearing those words from him.
"Buy a PS3?! I Wiifuse!" :P
I think the reasons behind Sony not wanting PS3s imported to the UK are:
1) The PS3 would be bought in the US for $600, then sold to the UK (the sold money would go to the PS3 owner, not Sony). As such, a lot of people in the UK would buy imports and not the official UK PS3s. And since UK dollars are usually worth twice the cost, Sony would lose money.
2) They don't want anyone having a system before it's released in that country. Maybe they want to increase hype or keep them waiting with inferior product numbers... again.
Either way, unless the PS3 drops to no more than $300 in the next year and a half, screw Sony.
Sony is the unholy perfection of everything bad about Microsoft.
Sony might as well go into the bomb business. And I don't mean their business decisions. *chucks sony-made laptop batteries at people*
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 25, 2006, 06:01:38 PM
Sony is the unholy perfection of everything bad about Microsoft.
There is no rest for the wicked ones. They will get theirs.
I would think sony was the unholy perfection of everything bad about Nintendo, seeing as they WERE partners way back in the day.
They were partners for 5 seconds.
simply put, If microsoft acted like sony acts now, the PC OS world would have been overrun by Linux
killing one of the best sources for people outside covered countries, and then sue anyone else who tries, wow that's a great strategy. I seriously don't get what they win by stopping people from buying imports, imports = sales boost
Sony obtains a brief ego boost from the illussion of complete control. They'll learn soon enough that they shot themselves in the foot. Well maybe not soon enough, but soon.
The sad thing is that Sony used to be a mark of assured quality. Their CE's now are mostly overpriced crap.
At this rate they're digging their own grave but with the money they make with everything else, they PS4 will come out. Hopefully by then SCE will stop acting like egotistical morons.
Sony screws up the PS3, SOE screws up MMOs and now my DVD is FUBAR. SE is the only thing I still like about Sony...
Quote from: ITOS on October 30, 2006, 09:22:27 PM
Sony screws up the PS3, SOE screws up MMOs and now my DVD is FUBAR. SE is the only thing I still like about Sony...
I never liked Sony.
Quote from: ninjannihilator on October 30, 2006, 08:41:00 PM
At this rate they're digging their own grave but with the money they make with everything else, they PS4 will come out. Hopefully by then SCE will stop acting like egotistical morons.
The thing is that they're trying to make the PS3 last a whopping 10 years. The PS2 lasted for an amazing 6, but 10 years is long enough for their rivals to come up with not one but two new machines in the same timespan. The GameCube lasted an average 5 years while Microsoft is hoping to keep the cycle fast and furious at just 4 years.
Microsoft has an excellent overall system this time around, and they'll have plenty of units in stock for the holidays combined with undercutting Sony by $200. This time, Microsoft has a much position against Sony, and I doubt the PS3 will be able to make good on it's 10-year promise. Hell, knowing Sony's Quality Control I doubt any significant number of PS3 units themselves will last 10 years.
Including or excluding the undoubtedly large amounts of returns early in the PS3 life due to system malfunctions that SONY systems are oh so good at?
Quote from: Cvstos on October 30, 2006, 10:25:04 PM
Quote from: ninjannihilator on October 30, 2006, 08:41:00 PM
At this rate they're digging their own grave but with the money they make with everything else, they PS4 will come out. Hopefully by then SCE will stop acting like egotistical morons.
The thing is that they're trying to make the PS3 last a whopping 10 years. The PS2 lasted for an amazing 6, but 10 years is long enough for their rivals to come up with not one but two new machines in the same timespan. The GameCube lasted an average 5 years while Microsoft is hoping to keep the cycle fast and furious at just 4 years.
Microsoft has an excellent overall system this time around, and they'll have plenty of units in stock for the holidays combined with undercutting Sony by $200. This time, Microsoft has a much position against Sony, and I doubt the PS3 will be able to make good on it's 10-year promise. Hell, knowing Sony's Quality Control I doubt any significant number of PS3 units themselves will last 10 years.
If Microsoft dropped the price of its Core System by $100 it would definitely hurt Nintendo. I'm guessing that they're going to do it next year.
Well its sad no one found it was the bodies of the people of sony :P
I can't understand what's up with the Playstations and poor quality. I have a Sony DVD burner, and it's solid as a rock. Absolutely perfect, and I've burned a lot of discs. Yet apparently on the original Playstation, copied discs burned too fast would fry the laser, and in the PS2 slim versions, the laser burns out from normal use, I believe because of a missing resistor. Plus on my Frankenstein-esque PS2 (long story involving a mod-chip and endless stupidity on my part), the glowy orbs don't spin around, which seems like it could hide a deeper malfunction.
I wonder what it would be like if Sony used the same technology in their game consoles as they do in other hardware.
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 31, 2006, 01:07:45 AM
I can't understand what's up with the Playstations and poor quality. I have a Sony DVD burner, and it's solid as a rock. Absolutely perfect, and I've burned a lot of discs. Yet apparently on the original Playstation, copied discs burned too fast would fry the laser, and in the PS2 slim versions, the laser burns out from normal use, I believe because of a missing resistor. Plus on my Frankenstein-esque PS2 (long story involving a mod-chip and endless stupidity on my part), the glowy orbs don't spin around, which seems like it could hide a deeper malfunction.
I wonder what it would be like if Sony used the same technology in their game consoles as they do in other hardware.
I've even remember Kutaragi criticising PS2's selling numbers due to a lot of users having bought their second PS2s already
anyway, this is amusing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PUWFpZ7DksI
D: NOOOO! Those poor machines :cry It's so senselessly cruel...
But I find it hilarious that the XBox hardly moved when smacked with a sledgehammer... And kind of frightening that the GameCube can put up with all that o_o;
Poor xsuck xD
the only other product sony does that is notable for its fragility are diskettes, but then again, few people use them anymore
and at 600 bucks I certainly hope the PS3 will be as resistant as this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRhCjglpzh8
wow. the gamecube certainly lives up to the nintendo seal of "built like a ****in' tank" quality.
Quote from: Kitsune Ascendant on October 31, 2006, 01:26:54 PM
wow. the gamecube certainly lives up to the nintendo seal of "built like a ****in' tank" quality.
Wow, yeah... that's crazy :mowdizzy
Quote from: Kitsune Ascendant on October 31, 2006, 01:26:54 PM
wow. the gamecube certainly lives up to the nintendo seal of "built like a ****in' tank" quality.
That's because Nontendo makes all their stuff from Nintendium. You can test this by abusing the living hell out of an old (black & white) gameboy.
I dropped an original Gameboy in mud once. it still worked after i wiped it off. I remember the story of someone's GB surviving a fire.... while the screen was weak and the buttons were fused to the case, the fact that it still worked was a miracle. My GBA, on the other hand... threw it at the ground in anger over how crappy MvsDK was, and the screen part got busted. nothing else, but... the screen was the important part.
I cracked my Gamecube (there is literally a fissure on it) down the middle and it still works. The only problem is that the fan is extremely loud now.
I had to comment on this one.
The thing that bothers me most about this is that a great deal of people just aren't aware of how incredibly dirty this is. Especially the way Sony are continuing to spin it and the fact that they are spinning, majorly. Well done Sony, you are officially the Microsoft of the console World.
To be honest, I like R-Force(.org)'s response. I hope importers start selling supremely expensive mugs and giving away free Playstation 3 consoles ad verbatim with those mugs.
As for Nintendo stuff ... well, the Megadrive (Genesis in America) was pretty solid. Actually I remember a friend of mine tossing his Megadrive out the window just to prove a point, then he took his Revenge of Shinobi cartridge and did everything the manual told him not to and a few more items.
At the end of the day, he had a Megadrive with some seriously scratched casing and a Shinobi cart that was so badly dented (and had lost its sticker from being washed in washing up liquid and dried with a dryer) and scratched up that it would barely fit in the slot.
The crazy barsteward puts it in and turns on the power. Does it work?
Yes, yes it does.
They don't build them like that anymore. I wish I had a PC built of whatever the hell Sega used.
I'm putting my money on pure Gekaganium Alloy.
Aw, look, now I have to actually put in a good word for Sony. D:
I just bought a $70 Sony S2 portable CD player, and it's amazing. It feels heavy , like I could throw it against a wall to no effect. What's more, it has a glorious analog volume control. This is Sony gone right. Pity they make too few products like this one.
Oh, all companies have at least some good sides to them. Microsoft puts together a decent keyboard, their hardware arm isn't so bad.
I don't know though, it just seems like Sony is getting increasingly worrying. Considering the rootkits, the DRM they have on their media players (I had to sell a Sony MP3 player my Grams bought to get her a Creative one so she could actually use the ruddy thing) and all this stuff now with their consoles, they seem to be at the start of a slippery slope.
They are a big company though so they're not all bad. SOE created a few decent MMOs, they might not always run them well but they are decent. PlanetSide is nice.
Credit where credit is due, I suppose. I just don't like where they're going.
heh, looks like Play-Asia already folded to Sony's nagging as wel... pity.