Heh heh, it IS about the buttons you push :)
Woo! Abel is gonna play Merlitz now :D
That's always how I know there's a new comic... "Hey, there's a topic about it!"
*now to actually read it*
EDIT: *laughs for a long while* Nice... Abel actually saved Dan from uber-awkwardness, eh?
The signature on the comic changed! D: Amber M. Williams.
I didn't get to say it before, but congrats Amber! :ipod
Abel seems to have recovered from the chimeshot pretty well. I donno about him, but I'd be down for like 5 minutes after that one....
:mowdizzy
Quote from: Supercheese on October 25, 2006, 12:07:19 AM
That's always how I know there's a new comic... "Hey, there's a topic about it!"
*now to actually read it*
My thoughts exactly xD
I can't help but wonder if Mab was pushing said buttons deliberately or not...
That wily Mab... :mowhappy
Abel is so opposed to Dan being at Pyroduck's mercy... Why oh why must you keep me wondering as to his reasons, Amber? 'A'
Man, I thought it was about the Twink thing, but yeah.. it's about leaving Pyro with Dan :) Brain fart ;)
That's mab :p Pushed a button and didn't even know it.
Winning without knowing.
Now Abel can finally give Merlitz that card... even if he is technically giving it to himself... :paranoid
Yummy dirt cake for the peoples...
:B
Once again, it is dated [10/25/06]. If you don't believe me, see the title bar for the comic.
Stop living in the past, silly `mericans. :P
"When life gives you dirt... make mud pies...?" o_o
I love Abel's angry face :)
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 12:11:07 AMI can't help but wonder if Mab was pushing said buttons deliberately or not...
Come now, she's too innocent to be devious.
Or so many think.
I think Mab is alot like Captain Carrot in this.
At times it's hard to tell if things work out do to devious ingenus planing or pure happenstance. But she's compleatly with out guile.
I like how Abel describes it as "stupid things" :laugh
Quote from: thegayhare on October 25, 2006, 12:51:35 AM
I think Mab is alot like Captain Carrot in this.
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Captain Carrot.... Is that a Discworld Reference?
But of course
There. Corrected the date :mowcookie
Quote from: Sheridan on October 25, 2006, 12:32:05 AM
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Once again, it is dated [10/25/06]. If you don't believe me, see the title bar for the comic.
Stop living in the past, silly `mericans. :P
But Amber lives just above us silly 'mericans, so shouldn't the date be accustomed to when
she uploaded the comic?
Mab is a fae, so if she wanted to, she could probably know every little detail of what's going on and make use of it in-character. Don't forget how deceptively powerful these guys are...
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on October 25, 2006, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on October 25, 2006, 12:32:05 AM
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Once again, it is dated [10/25/06]. If you don't believe me, see the title bar for the comic.
Stop living in the past, silly `mericans. :P
But Amber lives just above us silly 'mericans,
yup
Quoteso shouldn't the date be accustomed to when she uploaded the comic?
not neccesarily. Not many people check their webcomics late at night, so she puts them for the next day.
1:00 AM (when I go to sleep) and 9:00 AM (when I wake up) are the only times I check webcomics......
wow i didn't even know the difference. Able is good and he's very much like merlitz that merlitz might be fooled.
I love the way Mab and Pyroduck are heaped on the floor. Abel's gone into bouncer mode already. I think it's probably Wildy who's speaking (since it was her idea). Others have already realised why Abel has made his about-turn.
*sigh* and once again the females put one over on the males and get them to act according to thier whims.....if there's any justice in the world at all, Mab and Wildy's little plan will backfire horribly, and Dan will have to come pull them out of the fire anyhow.....
chYEAH......like THAT'S going to happen. *spit*
Welll someone give mab a bandaid too
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on October 25, 2006, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on October 25, 2006, 12:32:05 AM
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Once again, it is dated [10/25/06]. If you don't believe me, see the title bar for the comic.
Stop living in the past, silly `mericans. :P
But Amber lives just above us silly 'mericans, so shouldn't the date be accustomed to when she uploaded the comic?
Hey, don't ask me why they're dated in UTC. They just are.
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on October 25, 2006, 12:54:40 AM
Quote from: thegayhare on October 25, 2006, 12:51:35 AM
I think Mab is alot like Captain Carrot in this.
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Captain Carrot.... Is that a Discworld Reference?
Quote from: thegayhare on October 25, 2006, 12:56:11 AM
But of course
For a minute,
I thought you might have been referring to this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Carrot)...
Quote from: chaotik on October 25, 2006, 04:16:08 AM
*sigh* and once again the females put one over on the males and get them to act according to thier whims.....if there's any justice in the world at all, Mab and Wildy's little plan will backfire horribly, and Dan will have to come pull them out of the fire anyhow.....
Don't forget, the females are now in a heap on the ground outside Lost Lake, except for Alexsi who has been kidnapped. Wildy in particular appears to have got a nasty glimpse at how others view her.
I still think that Destania figures in this somehow. Heck, it's possible that
she kidnapped Alexsi to draw Dan into the Twink territories - perhaps she wanted to see how they've grown up but can't leave the TT for some reason. If these wannabes turn up instead of Dan she is going to be rather annoyed.
On the whole marriage name change thing, how common is the surname Panyko ? Does Amber have any others to pass the name on? What about Panyko-Williams? I know people how have taken double barreled name's to keep a family name going.
I quite possible that for various other reasons Amber may not want to keep the name and it is ultimately her choice. Maybe I'll sent an e-mail.
Any thoughts any one?
That's up to her on the name change. Now on the topic at hand hmmmmmmmm asking Abel to go to Twi nk territories with the gals hmmmmmmmm. I think Abel is a resident there at twink terrritories look at Dan's mom. Anywho I glad abel changed to Merlitz man that angry face is so funny.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on October 25, 2006, 07:05:08 AM
That's up to her on the name change. Now on the topic at hand hmmmmmmmm asking Abel to go to Twi nk territories with the gals hmmmmmmmm. I think Abel is a resident there at twink terrritories look at Dan's mom. Anywho I glad abel changed to Merlitz man that angry face is so funny.
And it means I get to do his voice again :P
have fun. i think that he changes to keep Dan as far form Pyro duck as possible. i wonder how this will play out in the long run though
Where is Jyrras and Azlan? I wonder if they would fall for Dan's and Abel's disguise...
Quote from: RJ on October 25, 2006, 12:36:52 AM
"When life gives you dirt... make mud pies...?" o_o
*Charles Confucianizes!* Wise man say, he who throw mud lose ground. :3
Hee, I just had a funny old cliche image of Merlitz showing up and doing the hallway mirror routine with 'Merlitz'. :mowhappy
Yup, there's Mab .. and hey she's being plot convenient again! :mowhappy :giggle
That suggestion is hilarious on so many levels, though.
A Fae and a Cubi combining their magic powers to shapeshift a Dragon that apparently can shapeshift already. Riiight. ;)
Now that they're out of the house, though, I hope the story stays with the rescue party. Right now (after the SAIA- and the Mall-arc), another arc of Dan and Abel chatting about their life stories and the Cubi race would possibly make me scream. Sorry, I know people apparently LOVE Abel, but my saturation level has been reached, and there is so freaking much potential in the rescue party that it would be a shame not to explore it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 04:14:48 AM
I think it's probably Wildy who's speaking (since it was her idea). Others have already realised why Abel has made his about-turn.
Actually doubt it. The "winning tastes like dirt" phrase strikes me as quite Mab-ish. Unless you meant something else o.o
Argh, edit: The titlebar song... what movie did it appear in? I think it was a prison movie, but I'm REALLY not sure anymore...
Quote from: chaotik on October 25, 2006, 04:16:08 AM
*sigh* and once again the females put one over on the males and get them to act according to thier whims.....if there's any justice in the world at all, Mab and Wildy's little plan will backfire horribly, and Dan will have to come pull them out of the fire anyhow.....
Yeah, but Dan is female right now, so it would still be the females being superior. :mowtongue
Quote from: Sid on October 25, 2006, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 04:14:48 AM
I think it's probably Wildy who's speaking (since it was her idea).
Actually doubt it. The "winning tastes like dirt" phrase strikes me as quite Mab-ish. Unless you meant something else o.o
You could be right there, looking at it again the speech bubble seems to correspond roughly with her head (although since it's off-shot we can't be sure).
I think it's Mabs saying this. She could give the meaning of plot changes cool I like where this strip is going. I can't wait for the continuing laugh riots in this strip.
This is why I dont like fighting at Lost Lake in Second Life....Its near a troll account called Lalalala Land...Oyi vey that place boots users to nowhere land
t's gotta be Mab talking :) That's just such a Mab phrase :)
And Azlan hit it on the head. Seeing the "angry Merlitz face" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_205.php) is just so much fun :lol
It's better to taste dirt than to lick asphalt.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 25, 2006, 01:31:48 AM
Mab is a fae, so if she wanted to, she could probably know every little detail of what's going on and make use of it in-character. Don't forget how deceptively powerful these guys are...
So basically, you think Mab is metagaming? Using player knowledge?
I bet she min-maxed her stats, too... you know how many points you can get for the sort of personality disadvantages she roleplays? :B
Quote from: DigitalMan
I can't help but wonder if Mab was pushing said buttons deliberately or not...
Quote from: Grenn
That's mab :p Pushed a button and didn't even know it.
Personally, I think Mab's clueless about those particular buttons. :mowwink
Quote from: e_voyageri think that he changes to keep Dan as far form Pyro duck as possible. i wonder how this will play out in the long run though
Is that it or does Abel just generally hate dragons?
Quote from: AmigaDragon on October 25, 2006, 02:04:22 PM
Is that it or does Abel just generally hate dragons?
The way I see it, he's terrified that Pyro is going to murder Dan. I think that probably extends to all or most dragons, actually, but we don't really know enough.
Given the discussion about Fa'Lina's alleged conspiracy in the other thread, I have been wondering something.
"..the deaths led [to] a call for war against all 'cubi races.."--Abel's history lesson, #508
What if it was the
dragons who organised this war?
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 02:15:40 PM
What if it was the dragons who organised this war?
Or maybe soommmmmething...Like...WE DONT KNOW YET! *holds Jak by the collar and shouts in his ear* Sorry had to be done by the near bigger dog...
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on October 25, 2006, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: Sheridan on October 25, 2006, 12:32:05 AM
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Once again, it is dated [10/25/06]. If you don't believe me, see the title bar for the comic.
Stop living in the past, silly `mericans. :P
But Amber lives just above us silly 'mericans, so shouldn't the date be accustomed to when she uploaded the comic?
Would you rather want to wait until it's midnight over there? >:3
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 02:15:40 PM
Given the discussion about Fa'Lina's alleged conspiracy in the other thread, I have been wondering something.
Which of the active threads is that? I don't follow these threads to the bitter end since they often end in chit-chat or over-the-top speculation.
But that history section (and Fa'Lina's role in it) interests me (since I will need it for my next project), so a pointer would be awesome. :) It most likely won't change my personal view of those events, but you never know...
Quote from: Sid on October 25, 2006, 02:59:31 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 02:15:40 PM
Given the discussion about Fa'Lina's alleged conspiracy in the other thread, I have been wondering something.
Which of the active threads is that? I don't follow these threads to the bitter end since they often end in chit-chat or over-the-top speculation.
"Cubi dislike Dragons" pages 5 and 6. On page 5, it is speculated that Fa'lina has her own special agenda and is moulding the 'cubi race to her will since virtually all 'cubi attend SAIA at some point in their lives. My counterargument is at the start of page 6.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 03:35:55 PM
"Cubi dislike Dragons" pages 5 and 6.
Thanks! *goes to check it out*
Quote from: Manawolf on October 25, 2006, 01:44:43 PM
It's better to taste dirt than to lick asphalt.
geez, ain't that the truth, I wiped out on a road once and left a 10m streak :[
anywhos I hope the reporters don't ask for a demonstration of fire magic... assuming that 'Lex told them his skill...
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on October 25, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
anywhos I hope the reporters don't ask for a demonstration of fire magic... assuming that 'Lex told them his skill...
Oh, no worries there. Abel's quite capable of that. It's when they start asking Being-specific questions about "What made you, a Being, decide to take up magic?" or "Where did you learn magic?" that things will start to get uncomfortable. To say nothing of the "tell us about the Human you saw" family of questions >:3
**EDIT**
Of course, Abel could reveal that 'Merlitz' is actually an incubus in disguise, but it won't help with the Human bit.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Drake Manaweilder on October 25, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
anywhos I hope the reporters don't ask for a demonstration of fire magic... assuming that 'Lex told them his skill...
Oh, no worries there. Abel's quite capable of that. It's when they start asking Being-specific questions about "What made you, a Being, decide to take up magic?" or "Where did you learn magic?" that things will start to get uncomfortable. To say nothing of the "tell us about the Human you saw" family of questions >:3
Specialy there is way play with magic as well..*as his eyes glowed*
i dobut that able will have a problem with fire magics all things considered (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_538.php).
Quote from: e_voyager on October 25, 2006, 04:13:51 PM
i dobut that able will have a problem with fire magics all things considered (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_538.php).
Abel gots my vote! for being the flaming manic
Quote from: Zedd on October 25, 2006, 04:17:31 PM
Abel gots my vote! for being the flaming manic
i do believe the terms was flaming hypocrite.
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 25, 2006, 05:07:26 AMI still think that Destania figures in this somehow. Heck, it's possible that she kidnapped Alexsi to draw Dan into the Twink territories - perhaps she wanted to see how they've grown up but can't leave the TT for some reason. If these wannabes turn up instead of Dan she is going to be rather annoyed.
You may have something there. It has a definite
Midsummer Night's Dream logic (if you want to call it that) to it.
*Woots as usual for Mab appearances*
some could say that Mab knew what she was saying though others can say that it was just Mabness speaking trying to be usefull.
Me personally Mab is the smart person who just loves life and is a convient story assistant.
Mab knows more than she will ever tell and she rarely gets on people's bad side which is not easy because you have to know who the said individual is and what they like and dislike.
Mab is REALLY har do be mad at for longet than 5 seconds and therefore can easily get away with many things.
Mab may be quite literal but she is also quite brilliant. Pyroduck could easily change himself into looking like Merlitz but she went the extra mile to say "between me and Abel we could make Pyroduck look like Merlitz."
Knowing Abel he still doesn't trust Pyroduck but won't do anything against him for a while BUT Abel won't help Pyroduck for as long as he can and Abel will not let Pyroduck stay alone with Dan if he could help it.
So either Bubbly luck or really observent Mab said the right thing and Angry Merlitz face is back.
Yay for angry Melitz face...And somehow sideline note..Does it look winning T to some people?
Oh, mabby has a more interesting history (or future?) than people realise.. :mowninja Ref http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_561.php and http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php
Yeah Mab is there as old friends with Falina for a very long time hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't like this she planning something big that involves everybody in DMFA. Till then I know for sure there a conspiracy at Saia.
Semi-random rant/analysis about Pyro's secret and Mab's omniscience:
Okay, maybe I'm really dense, or people are REALLY assuming that Mab is 100% omniscient.
It's not known if Mab even knows Pyroduck's species. People went from "Nobody knows" to "Everybody except for Dan knows" in just a few comics. What's up with that? Right now, the only basis for this is Wildy's very vague comment, but that only looks like "She knows" because we see what is happening in another room. "He's actually handy. If you ever talked to him, you'd know this." - Hey, people sometimes say the same about me, but that doesn't mean I'm Superman. Pyro HAS been handy (Twink Territory arc for example) without showing his Dragon side. As a consequence, the entire "He can shapeshift anyway" bit is not really a given, so Mab's comment might not have been a secret plan.
Yes, Mab has been blatantly plot-friendly in the past, but I always took that as a 4th-wall-joke and not as full canon. Otherwise, the immediate question would be why Merlitz didn't question Mab's comment (back, when Mab distracted Aary so Merl could rush to see Dan).
I would list things which I see as counter-examples against omniscience, but those would be built on sand because we know very little about the full extent of Fae Magic, about Mab's past or about the unwritten rules some Fae are following (like slipping into "roles" and such). So Mab is a complete wildcard, and since things always worked out in the end, people could argue that Mab is omniscient and basically knew in advance which way would lead to long-term happiness.
*rubs temples*
Here's how I see Mab. Or rather: "Here is how I see Mab in a context that completely ignores that Mab is whatever Amber needs in a situation, so I'm trying to find an explanation of her actions that stays in tune with the comic universe so far (excluding 4th-wall jokes) and doesn't try to assume any sort of never-mentioned power."
We know that she has a good deal of raw power at her disposal (I'm talking about the destructive kind, not regular magic like summoning a present). We also know that she never actually used that power except for one horrible reflex (the one that eventually forced her to move into Dan's closet). The next best thing I can remember is her threat (think it had been just before we learned that Dan's a Cubi).
I somehow don't think Mab can read minds or has some sort of omniscience. Unless I'm really overlooking something, this one is impossible to prove or disprove since any attempt to (dis-)prove it is based on circular reasoning ("I think she does/doesn't have this ability, and I can explain the events of the comic in a way that shows that my thesis is true."). So this is more my personal opinion, based on the fact that I really don't like omniscient characters.
Mab seems to have a talent for saying the right things at the right time. Sometimes at least. But I usually turn this one around, based on personal experience: People hear what they want to hear, Mab just happens to say things other characters might not say. Mab is open, she tries to help, and she tries to be friendly to everybody. So her words are usually free of sarcasm or hidden agendas. Most people simply make the mistake of trying to figure out Mab's "real goal" and react accordingly.
In a way, this is what happens in today's strip. Mab trusts Pyroduck and knows that, if push comes to shove, she and Wildy could do it alone or with Abel's help (since he could take Pyro's place in the rescue party). She also knows/guesses that the magic of two can shapeshift somebody else, and Pyro (being the only other male character in the group) is the only available "target". So the suggestion looks intuitive: "Hey, we can make Pyro look like Merlitz so you don't have to change". It's just Mab trying to be helpful. Abel could simply trust her. After all, Mab and Pyroduck have been around for years (Pyro still lives in Lost Lake, too... I think), so it should be reasonable that Pyro has had more than enough chances to do whatever Abel thinks he is up to. But Abel is so caught up in his paranoia that he sees a hidden plan in Mab's words and feels forced to act.
Which is why I have no idea why so many people think that this had been such a great "plan". Mab is possibly asking herself what was so wrong with her suggestion and Abel is doing something against his will (oh yeah, that'll make him feel right at home). Add to this Dan's unhappiness about not going to save his sister personally, Wildy's potential crisis and Pyro knowing that Abel might possibly tell some misinformation to Dan, and I don't see how this actually helped to make things better.
And a final tangent:
What's up with the recent wave of conspiracy theories? When did Fa'Lina and Mab become the great masterminds of a revolution that will completely change the DMFA universe as we know it?
I'd love to write a parody fanfic about this, but the theories I've seen so far are crazier than anything I could come up with on such short notice...
That is an obscenely large stack of good points. Which will promptly be ignored by many people, in 3, 2, 1...
now!
to Sid
a) Falina and Mab apparently recognises each other, based on http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php. Ink also apparently gets along well with Mab, though that might be a non-issue. We do not know whether Falina and Mab's relationship is in the past or future though. (I suspect future)
b) It was never mentioned how Dan and Mab met and got along. I suspect that if this was mentioned, it would only lead to more questions, so I won't dwell on it.
c) We already know Dan is at least a somewhat important figure based on Pyroduck's comment. Mab has been with Dan since childhood. This may or may not be a coincidence.
d) Mab is not as innocent as one might suspect. Ref: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_409.php
e) You don't need pure omniscience to be plot convenient, you just need some sort of "future instinct" to be such (something like Spiderman's "spider sense").
Spider Mab...Spider Mab...does spider things then calls a cab.
Hey lookout! here comes the spider-mab!
It's got a nice ring to it. :3
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 25, 2006, 10:34:33 PM
Spider Mab...Spider Mab...does spider things then calls a cab.
Hey lookout! here comes the spider-mab!
It's got a nice ring to it. :3
Hope the driver speaks any inglish....Pow their goes ol' family fashioned racism xD
*re-reads the SAIA arc* Fa'lina most assuredly has plans... plans that seem to stretch at least 200 years into the future. *erfs* This is gonna be a looooooong comic! :D
I expect something will eventually force Fa'lina's hand... perhaps one of the other creatures' plots. Yes, Fa'lina could be playing a Palpatine-like role, acting all nicey-nicey while secretly directing matters in a way which at the culmination of the various events will lead to her rise as supreme ruler of Furrae! :mowdizzy
*imagines a Star Wars-like scaenario* Dan, after defeating Dr. Ink, who was secretly Fa'lina's henchman all along, is pulled to the Dark Side of Cubi. He slaughters everyone dear to him, but loses arms, legs, wings, head-wingies, etc. in the battle with Pyroduck and must be put in a cubi life-support suit! Then, his secret love Matilda has his twin children! One becomes strong the Cubi-ness! A final battle eventually ensues pitting father against son as Fa'lina, contemplating the final end to the Being Rebellion, watches on in delight. But at last, Dan is struck down... but his son refuses to give the final blow! Fa'lina, furious at his insolence, zaps Dan's son with Cubi Death Static! Dan, seeing his son dying, has a change of heart, grabs Fa'lina, tosses her down the tunnel that is only in the scene for that purpose and... Fa'lina just sorta flies back up, "Hello? I have WINGS!" Then she kills them both, eats their souls, and rules forever as the most powerful cubi ever. The End. >:3
Quote from: Zedd on October 25, 2006, 10:41:39 PM
Hope the driver speaks any inglish....Pow their goes ol' family fashioned racism xD
Yup. Just like the crows in Dumbo :D
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
{Darth Vader Episode 3-style}
Quote from: Supercheese on October 25, 2006, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! {Darth Vader Episode 3-style}
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/20162308/
All right, all right this crossover is funny as heck but I like the spider-mab hmmm. being bitten by a radioactive mow. :mwaha :mwaha
I'm not sure why you listed those points since they don't directly factor into the conspiracy theories or the omniscience question... but maybe I'm not fully aware of the big picture, so I'll do this step by step anyway.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 25, 2006, 09:45:05 PM
a) Falina and Mab apparently recognises each other, based on http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php. Ink also apparently gets along well with Mab, though that might be a non-issue. We do not know whether Falina and Mab's relationship is in the past or future though. (I suspect future)
Yes, quite correct. Mab and Fa'Lina seem to have met at some point in the past (How would their relationship be in the FUTURE? Did I miss a theory that involves time-travel? O_o). It most likely can be assumed that both Mab and Fa'Lina are fairly old (we know Fa'Lina's rough age, and I guess that Mab isn't exactly 20...) and know each other well. Since Ink is around Fa'Lina's age (and has been at SAIA pretty much since Fa'Lina opened it), it's hardly surprising that Mab and Ink most likely know each other, too.
My personal theory is that Mab and Fa'Lina haven't been in contact since Mab joined Dan, though. Otherwise, Fa'Lina would have known about Destania's fate and her son (her reaction to Lost Lake (first strip, SAIA arc) seems to indicate that she didn't know about Destania's new life or Dan's birth until the application came in. She also had to send her Wrap-Aci via mail). Additionally, it appears that Mab forgot about Fa'Lina (or at leasts acts that way - neither Mab nor Pip recognized Fa'Lina before their arrival at SAIA), so it's possible that something happened either during her last meeting with Fa'Lina or between then and the start of the arc.
Quoteb) It was never mentioned how Dan and Mab met and got along. I suspect that if this was mentioned, it would only lead to more questions, so I won't dwell on it.
Well, we do know that Mab has been around since Dan's childhood (we see an apparently young Mab next to a young Dan in Mab's flashback), so I'd guess that they started out as normal childhood friends and that Dan never really thought about it until he got older (he does know about Mab's personal history... or at least about certain parts of it, so there most likely had been a time when Mab told Dan about her being more than met his eye).
Quotec) We already know Dan is at least a somewhat important figure based on Pyroduck's comment. Mab has been with Dan since childhood. This may or may not be a coincidence.
Mab's motivation to stick around Dan is certainly an interesting case. It might of course be a case of "He had been around when Mab needed to re-live her childhood" or something like that. Or it's because she knows something that made it important for her to stick around. Possible reasons (which have not yet happened in the comic) would be Dark Pegasus knowing about Destania having a child, Regina's connection to Dan, or whatever reasons Abel and Pyro have to care about Dan's health. Whether or not any of those reasons are related (or identical) is another question that only Amber can answer.
Quoted) Mab is not as innocent as one might suspect. Ref: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_409.php
Yes, she has her moments >:3
Mab is certainly no saint (Then again - who is?), but I would just put that under "regular fun-loving and mischief" and not under "signs of the revolution" ;)
Quotee) You don't need pure omniscience to be plot convenient, you just need some sort of "future instinct" to be such (something like Spiderman's "spider sense").
Good point, and at least as hard to (dis-)prove as the other theories. A related possibility is that Mab knows what to do... but not why she has to do it. For example, she knows that making the suggestion to Abel will lead to the desired result, but she doesn't know about Abel's issues with Pyro or about Pyro's race and abilities.
In the end, it's impossible to pin down Mab's abilities and motivation with only the comics. All we can do is guessing. Kinda like the cavemen in 2001 when they first ran into the Monolith. ;)
Quote from: Sid on October 26, 2006, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 25, 2006, 09:45:05 PM
a) Falina and Mab apparently recognises each other, based on http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php. Ink also apparently gets along well with Mab, though that might be a non-issue. We do not know whether Falina and Mab's relationship is in the past or future though. (I suspect future)
Yes, quite correct. Mab and Fa'Lina seem to have met at some point in the past (How would their relationship be in the FUTURE? Did I miss a theory that involves time-travel? O_o).
The part about future instinct? If you have a gut feeling that you'll be having a working relationship sometime in the future, it's best to have a good first meeting.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 26, 2006, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 26, 2006, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 25, 2006, 09:45:05 PM
a) Falina and Mab apparently recognises each other, based on http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php. Ink also apparently gets along well with Mab, though that might be a non-issue. We do not know whether Falina and Mab's relationship is in the past or future though. (I suspect future)
Yes, quite correct. Mab and Fa'Lina seem to have met at some point in the past (How would their relationship be in the FUTURE? Did I miss a theory that involves time-travel? O_o).
The part about future instinct? If you have a gut feeling that you'll be having a working relationship sometime in the future, it's best to have a good first meeting.
Oh, future instinct factoring in there? Hrm... that sounds all sorts of farfetched to me.
On the other hand, the SAIA arc is fairly confusing when it comes to timing and character whereabouts, so we're missing out on some potentially interesting character interaction there. Still, I (personally and subjectively) doubt that Fa'Lina's weird line refers to a future point.
I still think Mab has reset herself to childhood to grow up with Dan for some unknown reason (which may be of cosmic significance or simply a whim) and Fa'lina remembers her from before.
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
I wanna see a cubi proficient in lightsaber forms though.
I can't see many things stopping that.
Quote from: TheDXM on October 26, 2006, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
I wanna see a cubi proficient in lightsaber forms though.
I can't see many things stopping that.
Throw a room's worth of chairs at em.
Quote from: FireKatKid on October 26, 2006, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: TheDXM on October 26, 2006, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
I wanna see a cubi proficient in lightsaber forms though.
I can't see many things stopping that.
Throw a room's worth of chairs at em.
I'll raise you a two tables with your chairs and i will folds
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 25, 2006, 10:34:33 PM
Spider Mab...Spider Mab...does spider things then calls a cab.
Hey lookout! here comes the spider-mab!
Bwahah.
Quote from: Zedd on October 27, 2006, 01:29:12 AM
Quote from: FireKatKid on October 26, 2006, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: TheDXM on October 26, 2006, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 25, 2006, 11:28:10 PM
... It's official. Star Wars and DMFA don't mix.
I wanna see a cubi proficient in lightsaber forms though.
I can't see many things stopping that.
Throw a room's worth of chairs at em.
I'll raise you a two tables with your chairs and i will folds
I will throw in a ladder a Game cube system and a kendo stick beat that.
Um, nobody has to "beat" anything. you're betting. besides, Zedd folded, so you must be betting against yourself.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 27, 2006, 08:06:45 AM
Um, nobody has to "beat" anything. you're betting. besides, Zedd folded, so you must be betting against yourself.
I won the pot :mwaha. Anywho when the strip will start the Wildly and others finally going to twinks territory, and when Danielle and Merlitz will have the interview for the Bar at Lost Lake. WHEN, WHEN I TELL YOU.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on October 25, 2006, 09:45:05 PMd) Mab is not as innocent as one might suspect. Ref: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_409.php
More to the point, her power level: She's not saying she can't grant wishes, only that she doesn't want to.
But Mabs has power I think is off the scale. Very Dangerous to boot if you get her angry.
Bewareeesss! :milklaugh <- *at shineing*
Beware of Mabs getting real angry at someone.
preferably anybody at DMFA in range of her anger.
Mab practally vaporised her glen when someone surprised her. A magic release like that on a whim by shear surprise means she has magical properties that are off the scale or nearly off the scale.
Not to mention that she made a Gift for Widly with a few simple words and a twiddle of her fingers when Abel explained how hard that is to do.
I imagine all of the fae race is like that >_>
Alzan or Bambi isnt evil...Just clever *huggles Azzy plush*
now now don't may Azlan blush. he does have a wife at home after all.
With all that power at Mab's disposial i'm very surprised that she taken over Lost lake yet.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:53:58 AM
With all that power at Mab's disposial i'm very surprised that she taken over Lost lake yet.
I'm going to assume you meant:
QuoteWith all that power at Mab's disposial i'm very surprised that she hasn't taken over Lost lake yet.
I think that Mab doesn't
want to take ove Lost Lake. I mean, then she'd run the risk of losing at least Alexi and Dan as friends, if not the others. And then she'd have an inn that she was obligated to do something with. It'd probably be more trouble than it was worth!
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:53:58 AM
With all that power at Mab's disposial i'm very surprised that she taken over Lost lake yet.
But isn't the greatest proof of power the luxury of not having to use it?
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 03, 2006, 01:34:52 AM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:53:58 AM
With all that power at Mab's disposial i'm very surprised that she taken over Lost lake yet.
But isn't the greatest proof of power the luxury of not having to use it?
Indeed, but I think that most of all that pondering originates from the pure and simple fact that fae and dragons and such creatures just seem to be waaay overpowered. It's
silly, and with me, that is a capital crime!
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on November 03, 2006, 01:34:52 AM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:53:58 AM
With all that power at Mab's disposial i'm very surprised that she taken over Lost lake yet.
But isn't the greatest proof of power the luxury of not having to use it?
you are a person after my own coding. sure i have power and i know i have power but that doesn't mean i have to use it to try and impress you. that is the way more people should think.
Yeah great powers comes with great responsibility *had to use that* But with Mab's she is the one who rarely flys off the handle over something small. Well if you count destroying her glen and Jyrass Mech hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I think I should go back to the jury room to reevaluate this decision.