The Clockwork Mansion

Outskirts => The Villa => Topic started by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 09:15:29 PM

Title: SHINEYS!
Post by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 09:15:29 PM
Okay.  So Darkmoon is working on the new version of the site.  It includes the currently updating (he's building the pages as I type this) photo album.

The link is below.  However, there are two rules if you are going to view the site:

1) You must remember that this is still in demo version, and not complete.  If you point out typos (which is encouraged) you must state what page and paragraph they are in.  Giving surrounding text gives you karma cookies.   :mowcookie  (be aware, Darkmoon may swear at you before he changes them.  This cannot be helped.  Don't take it personally.  If you don't tell him where the typo is, he will *definitely* swear at you, and then ignore it.)

2) You cannot change your photo album bio.  Like karma, they are all in good fun.  Besides, Darkmoon won't do it, and I don't have the FTP password.

www.clockworkmansion.com/ (link updated)

Have fun!

:zombiekun3
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Aridas on October 07, 2006, 09:36:35 PM
Does the misspelling of "juliennes" on the 13th word of This page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumgabi) count as a typo? And is it just coincidence it happens to be on an unluckily numbered word?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 07, 2006, 09:39:04 PM
Dmarais warned you: Fuck You.

I'll fix it soon
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Aridas on October 07, 2006, 09:40:32 PM
It's true! It's everything it was said to be! :P
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Paladin Sheppard on October 07, 2006, 09:59:25 PM
Heh I love it! *Is still laughing his ass off*
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 07, 2006, 10:01:33 PM
My name is not "Bill Buckner". It's BillBuckner. [/nitpick]
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 07, 2006, 10:02:29 PM
Fuck you and the shitty assed sprots car you rode in on...
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 07, 2006, 10:03:21 PM
You misspelled "Sprots". And, it's an open-wheel single seater, not a "Sprots" car.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Amber Williams on October 07, 2006, 10:05:30 PM
I keep getting half the Photo Album peeps coming up bad.  I'll come up with a list in a minute...right now there are fajitas for me...
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 10:07:25 PM
of course they're coming up bad.  He hasn't written them yet.  That's part of the "in progress" part ;)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Amber Williams on October 07, 2006, 10:12:01 PM
LIES! :U
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Zina on October 07, 2006, 10:17:52 PM
Dude.
I did have it coming. :<
My only comfort is that I took Scrump down with me.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Paladin Sheppard on October 07, 2006, 10:18:26 PM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumgabi

Paragraph 1

"eliminate pet orders" is that meant to be odours?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 07, 2006, 10:19:40 PM
Quote from: Paladin Sheppard on October 07, 2006, 10:18:26 PM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumgabi

Paragraph 1

"eliminate pet orders" is that meant to be odours?
I would assume so, since we have an admin who CAN'T SPELL 6 LETTER WORDS.


*books teh f*** out*
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 07, 2006, 10:20:24 PM
:(
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 10:20:55 PM
bah.  He can't spell THREE letter words.

But we keep him around cause he's cute.  :mowmeep
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 07, 2006, 10:21:38 PM
Mabye he should just communicate entirely with emoticons.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 07, 2006, 10:21:53 PM
 :epenis

(cough)

It WAS that big... but no more...
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 10:22:28 PM
He was totally typing an emoticon driven post when you ninjaed him

*dies*
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Paladin Sheppard on October 07, 2006, 10:23:16 PM
I feel so left out Dmoon didn't swear at me  :tired
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 07, 2006, 10:26:23 PM
:pzilla
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 07, 2006, 10:27:12 PM
It mystifies me as to why someone would make that emoticon.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 10:28:31 PM
*pokes Amber*

heh
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Paladin Sheppard on October 07, 2006, 10:30:22 PM
You're right Damaris only Amber would come up with something like that  >:3
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Aridas on October 07, 2006, 10:35:39 PM
This may turn out to be the best thread since.. uh... that other one.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Amber Williams on October 07, 2006, 10:49:37 PM
My only regret of making the Peniszilla emoticon was that I didnt think to make a light-background version as well.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 07, 2006, 10:50:07 PM
It works fine for those who use the Inverted Dungeon scheme.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Damaris on October 07, 2006, 10:52:08 PM
 :mwaha

our plan is falling into place.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Zedd on October 07, 2006, 11:00:08 PM
And I never knew why it takes so long to do anything... :U
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Eibborn on October 07, 2006, 11:15:30 PM
*Cough*
There's a few problems with ElectricMotiveDiesel's page.
First Paragraph- "Technology ahs come a long way."
Fav Colour- "Blue's and greens" Misplaced apostrophe, ahoy!
Fav Music- You just put a space between the 'J' and the 'A' in Jazz

Pretty small stuff... but there you go.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 07, 2006, 11:44:50 PM
The site will launch tomorrow. All pages are setup, it's just a matter of typoing now.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: insanekaosx on October 07, 2006, 11:44:59 PM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumkaosx

In the names section at top, while Tani is a name that one person calls me, most go with Tanis. Unless you don't want people thinking I'm a Dragonlance freak, which I kindof am.

Oh, and thanks for killing me. You can edit it to say Prom instead of dinner if you want ;P Thats what it actually was.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on October 07, 2006, 11:52:03 PM
I didn't know I was a strange, kinky man...
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Dakata on October 07, 2006, 11:55:00 PM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumdakata

'Favorite Color(s): Dark Red/Maroon/Blood Red tongue'

Change the 'tongue' part. It looks stupid. And it should be a :P smilie.

BTW, can we ask Darkmoon to change the info (Favorite stuff, Likes, Dislikes, ect.) if we want it changed? :B
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Nikki on October 07, 2006, 11:57:59 PM
;;

i seem like a freak
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 12:15:43 AM
Yesm, you can change your basic info. You however cannot change your summary. That is my domain.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Dakata on October 08, 2006, 12:16:36 AM
...Well, can I have a new summary that's totally random and stuff? :B
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: xHaZxMaTx on October 08, 2006, 12:18:04 AM
Even if I could change my summary, I doubt I would. :lol
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: insanekaosx on October 08, 2006, 12:22:49 AM
Hey, if you'd rather not have the same picture there for Miaka and I, I also have this you could use

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/insanekaosx/afterschoolpics0015.jpg
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Kasarn on October 08, 2006, 12:30:30 AM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumkasarn
Darkmoon, I know Joseph is what you like to call me at nights, but my name is really James
Although, there was also that girl back when I was in grade 8 who called me Jason...
Actually, I think James sucks too. So you can put whatever you like in there... you will anyway :)

Also, it's zodiac... or you could spell the sign Kaprikorn; either way works :)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Zedd on October 08, 2006, 12:50:37 AM
Would anyone be kind to help me with this?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Azlan on October 08, 2006, 12:54:02 AM
Yes it is very shiney...
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 01:07:05 AM
Probably just a typo, Kasarn. I'll check it tomorrow.

Dakata: no. I like what I wrote.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Supercheese on October 08, 2006, 01:30:35 AM
On the FAQ page...

QuotePrincess: There's always room for Jell-O

Lack of punctuation at the end... (minor)

QuotePrincess: There is no "Old Forum" Neo... its all in your mind.

its --> it's 

...

Rules section:

QuoteRule #8

Please forward all complaints/concerns to either Damaris or Darkmoon (if they will not be available for several days, a secondary point person will be designated). If your complaint or concern is about Darkmoon or Damaris, you should choose the other administrator. All PMs off an "issue" nature that cannot be resolved immediately will be posted in the admins' area as documentaion of the issue. The admins will then come up with a fair desicion on the matter.

While I applaud the appropriate use of the apostrophe in "admins'", "desicion" should be "decision", "documentaion" should be "documentation", and the "off" I believe should be simply "of". However, there is a chance I am wrong on that last one...


Hmm, I like the rules. A compilation of banned annoyances that any sensible person can comply with without qualms.  :)



But, running the entire Rules page through a spellchecker yields all sorts of interesting things, some actual typos, some just words it doesn't recognize. A comprehensive list could be compiled, but I'm really too lazy to do it...

"flaimbait" was an interesting one. Should be "flamebait", or no? [In Rule 2, Section A, Sentence 1]

EDIT:  <.< 

Uhhh, wait, was I only supposed to care about the Photo Album?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: ITOS on October 08, 2006, 03:41:21 AM
Quote from: Supercheese on October 08, 2006, 01:30:35 AM
Uhhh, wait, was I only supposed to care about the Photo Album?

It is the funny part. :P

Nice work, Darkmoon. Very  ...  creative. :paranoid
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Suwako on October 08, 2006, 03:50:22 AM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumaiyno

QuoteOnce owned a hampster named Bruce. Sadly, Bruce met with a particularly cruel fate. Aiyno still hasn't recovered.

Hampster! and my Hamster was named Deedee and did meet a cruel fate. The cat responsible is still alive and petable  D:

or is Darkoon just unique with writting hampster while the spell check says its wrong?  D:

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumramsey

There we go again. I request hampster being added to the spell check :P
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: RJ on October 08, 2006, 09:04:53 AM
QuoteThis picture was taken just minutes befoer RJ went on a murderous rampage, killing 3 dozen people and a particularly cute hampster named "Bruce". What Bruce did to earn RJ's ire we don't know, but RJ swear that "he had it coming!"

Ah, not particulary the best moment of my life, but it was necessary.

I would have laughed more if THIS picture had been used:

(http://www.furry.org.au/randomjoy/minimecosplay2.jpg)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Miaka on October 08, 2006, 09:11:56 AM
Woot, I'm a ninja now.

So much love.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Gabi on October 08, 2006, 10:25:26 AM
I'm for sale? I'll need to have a word with whoever wants to buy me.

Nice site, Darkmoon!

Now, for the insults part... Slav's name is Slavkei, not Slaveki or Slavenki. It's been spelt wrong on both the main list (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=photos) and his page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumslaveki).

And RJ's page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/demo/main.php?page=albumrj) says "This picture was taken just minutes befoer RJ went on a murderous rampage". It should be before.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: skwerly on October 08, 2006, 10:35:18 AM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php
a hand full of pages -> handful
FAQ: A run down of rules -> rundown

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=photos
2nd paragraph: it's relly quite simple -> really
Forest Cat -> Forestcat (or ForestCat?)
Slaveki -> Slavkei

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumaisha
the tough of a snake -> tongue

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumaiyno
hampster -> hamster (mentioned)
Bruce -> Deedee (mentioned)

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumdmoon
against all odd -> odds

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albummotive
Technology ahs come -> has (mentioned)

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumclara
sandwhiches -> sandwiches

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumforestcat
Throught - Through

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumgabi
she juliennes fries -> she makes julienne fries (mentioned)

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumgullible
nick names -> nicknames

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumhazmat
what he's grown... illegal -> what he's grown... is illegal

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumhilary
told you not too! -> to

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumilly
margnically -> marginally

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumkaosx
governments -> government's

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumitos
adnroid -> android
and with who -> and with whom (?)

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumjim
37th times -> 37th time
27 is just too much. -> 37

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumjorge
who's -> whose

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumliger
threash -> thresh (or thrash)
alandscape -> a landscape
Usually the later -> latter

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumlysander
christian -> Christian
encycolpedias -> encyclopedias

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albummabby
drivvel -> drivel
doesnt -> doesn't
incredably -> incredibly
sentance -> sentence

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumpaladin
has to time -> has time (or has the time)

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumpoofy
during and administration -> an

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumramsey
hampster -> hamster

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumrj
befoer -> before (mentioned)
hampster -> hamster
RJ swear that -> swears

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumslaveki
(Gabi ninja'd me)

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumxzexze
an Transformer -> a

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumzina
Scrumps dying words -> Scrump's


*sits quietly and awaits a Jack-like wrath from Darkmoon)*

[Edit: demo de-demo'd, links updated]
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 11:30:37 AM
If anyone wonders:

Yes, I can spell. I just type really fast and have dyslexia, so unless I'm paying attention, I get ahead of myself and don't realize I've made errors. Even reading over them sometimes doesn't show me my errors.

No, I don't write these things in Word before I put them into Notepad, since Word uses quotation marks that don't interpret to the web.

No, I don't proofread these things, since usually it takes me 10 hours to write up a huge batch and code them anyway. I prefer just going back over them later and editing them when people notice.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Kasarn on October 08, 2006, 11:37:02 AM
I make spelling mistakes all the time.

Like, there was this time I thought vociferous was voliferous and that other time when I thought egregious was egrarious... :B
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 11:55:09 AM
I swear I thought hamster has a p in it... Prolly cause I was thinking it's be spelled like the "Hamptons" or something...

BTW, skwerly... 68 smites, so you don't feel left out. ;)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Aridas on October 08, 2006, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 11:30:37 AM
dyslexia
You bastard, you spelled that right. *angry pitchfork*

other than that, hampster and hamster seem to mean the same thing now despite one of them having been wrong...
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 12:20:30 PM
Damn skippy!
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: RJ on October 08, 2006, 12:58:01 PM
Nice work :3

(Can you post up that extra photo of me too though? It makes the hamster thing much funnier XD )
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: bill on October 08, 2006, 12:58:48 PM
I can change my photo, right? The one that's up was a placeholder that I forgot to change.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: skwerly on October 08, 2006, 02:11:01 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon
Yes, I can spell.  I just type really fast and have dyslexia, so unless I'm paying attention, I get ahead of myself and don't realize I've made errors. Even reading over them sometimes doesn't show me my errors.

No one types perfectly, and my post shouldn't be taken as "HAW HAW UR SPELING IS TEH SUCK!!"  Damaris encouraged typo-finding, so I decided to go a-huntin'.  Most of 'em I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.  It's the whole "get the word close and the brain fills in the intent" thing.  A few I had to verify in dictionary.com.  Considering the amount of typing you do, it's still a damn high accuracy.

QuoteNo, I don't write these things in Word before I put them into Notepad, since Word uses quotation marks that don't interpret to the web.

The curly quotes?  I hate those things.  If you want to write in Word instead of notepad, you can turn off the quote changing:

Tools->AutoCorrect Options->AutoFormat As You Type->Replace As You Type->"Straight Quotes" with "Smart Quotes" (uncheck)

That's for Word 2002.  The menus may have changed since then.

QuoteNo, I don't proofread these things, since usually it takes me 10 hours to write up a huge batch and code them anyway. I prefer just going back over them later and editing them when people notice.

That's the proper way to do things.  Have your minions fine-tune your work, and then smite them for doing so. :)  I just now realized, Damaris promised karma cookies, but she never said it'd be good karma. *sigh*

Sooo.. want me to go proof the other pages? :)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 02:43:12 PM
Proof anything you can find. I'll edit as need be.

RJ: If you want your second picture up, I'll need more content. More faves or whatever.

Bill: I like that picture, but I will et you have a second one up. If I remove that one, though, the bio would have to be rewritten.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 08, 2006, 03:30:20 PM
On Slav's pag (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumslavkei), it talks about killing a yak from fifty "yeards" - is that a measure of distance, or time? :-)

On Aiyno's page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumaiyno), under "Tries to be:" annoying is spelt with only one n...

On Daimien's page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumdaimien), did you miss a < br > or two or something? :-)

On Electromotivediesel's page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albummotive), "Desperately" is, uh, not spelt like that, at the bottom of the page.

On Gabi's page (http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumgabi), there's, in the disclaimer, a missing f from "side effects", and a missing u from "unusual"

After that I got bored :-)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 04:11:10 PM
How do you spell desperately then?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 08, 2006, 04:24:13 PM
Correctly. :-)



On that page, it's missing the terminal e, though....
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: skwerly on October 08, 2006, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon
Proof anything you can find. I'll edit as need be.

Very well..

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=rules
Rule 1 para 1: deal with yu -> you
Rule 2 sec B: going to far -> too
Rule 3 para 1: suitible -> suitable
Rule 3 para 1: need to ask -> need to act
Rule 4 sec C: univers discussion -> universe
Rule 5 sec A: argumententative -> argumentative
Rule 5 sec A: you seems like -> seem
Custom Title: postin rank -> posting
Link to http://kategorie.cz: I don't think that's an image resizer anymore.

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=faq
Para 1 line 5: lengerie -> lingerie
Para 6 line 4: inuendo -> innuendo
Para 10 line 3: A dungeonite are -> Dungeonites are

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=timeline
CDF v1.0: ass a picture -> as
Freaksville: Orignally -> Originally
CDF v2.0: Offical -> Official
ICVDF v2.0: it's user uses -> its (user uses? eh?)
FPD v2.0: posts as RSU -> at
ICVDF v4.2: forum do to -> due
RSU v3.0x: navigatability -> navigability
RSU v3.0x: conhesiveness -> cohesiveness
CVRPG v1.0: codes aer supposed -> are
CMF v1.2: August -> July 2006
CMF v1.2: unject -> inject

Any other pages need looking at? :)
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 08:20:29 PM
Groovy, those will be up momentarily.

Actually, if anyone knows basic dates from DMFA and the DMFAF, I'll add them on to the timeline as well. Since we're all one big community now, it seems fair.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Hilary on October 08, 2006, 09:00:35 PM
http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=photos
On the main page, my name is spelled Hillary. It's Hilary, with one 'l.'

http://www.clockworkmansion.com/main.php?page=albumhilary
B-day: It's March 29th, not August 3rd. Which you misspelled... but that doesn't even matter. :paranoid

You say my eyes are creepy in my picture? *points at Kaos' pic*  >:3
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: insanekaosx on October 08, 2006, 10:33:22 PM
Quote from: Hilary on October 08, 2006, 09:00:35 PM
You say my eyes are creepy in my picture? *points at Kaos' pic*  >:3

You mean the one where I look high or possessed?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Hilary on October 08, 2006, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: insanekaosx on October 08, 2006, 10:33:22 PM
You mean the one where I look high or possessed?
Possessed, most definitely. *shies away from the demonic glowy-eyes*
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: RJ on October 08, 2006, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon on October 08, 2006, 02:43:12 PM
RJ: If you want your second picture up, I'll need more content. More faves or whatever.

Hm, okaie dokie... I'll post a re-draft up in the photo album thread.
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: skwerly on October 08, 2006, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: Darkmoon
Actually, if anyone knows basic dates from DMFA and the DMFAF

D'oh, I missed DMFAF's birthday.  First Post (http://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=79;t=000001) was Oct 6 2003.

I'm guessing DMFA started late '99, cuz Vol 19 is dated 1999-2000.  I'm sure several others know the exact date.

Semi-OT question: Did DMFA have a forum before The Nice?
Title: Re: SHINEYS!
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on October 09, 2006, 12:22:40 AM
Ok, now my bio is something full of magic and hilarity.   Actually, most of the Bios are full of magic and Hilarity.   :tmyk