Oh before I type anything else, if you don't smoke thats cool. Just try not to flame those who do.
I was wondering what brands of potion smokers who lurk around these forms use? Personally I go for Silver brand cigarettes. Which I am convinced that only twenty stores nation wide carry. Although before I switched to a cheaper brand, I started and stuck with Camel Wides for about a year. (I've only been smoking for about three years. I have at least two more before I'm going to start thinking about quiting ;p)
Heh, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if I was the only smoker.
I don't smoke, I don't drink, I never swear and I'm fucking proud of it. :P
I doubt I could stop swearing if my life depended on it >>
The only drug I take is caffeine.
I like smokers. Smoking is medically proven to make you 33% cooler.
That, and tobacco companies are responsible for some of the meanest F1 liveries of all time.
It's all the tar, we hack it out and use it as hair grease. Thats where all the style comes into play.
unfortunately i see the effects of smoking while working, i get young people come in and buy cig's who look pretty healthy (yes i do check for id) then you see the older guys and gals that have been smoking for a while and its quite annoying to think that the younger generation will end up dependent on a drug that is proven to lower your life expectancy
makes me grrr
Sworn off threes things in my life that will only take away my money and leave me unhealthy and short of life:
Cigs, alcohol, and MMORPGS
I've been tempted to pick up a pipe, not for any need to smoke but I love the smell of cherry pipe tobacco, most pip tobacco is rather fragrent I've found...
I don't smoke but I wonder if I could burn it in an incence burner
I always see students around school who smoke, often they're only 15/16. It's just so sad to think of the problems they're going to face as they get older, especially since I consider some of them to be friends. Personally, I have sworn to never even try smoking although I'm not adverse to drinking... I mean... when I'm old enough of course :paranoid Only another month (yay!).
I don't smoke. I am bent on destroying other internal organs with alcohol ,video games and various self-baked cookies/experiments. :mowcookie
I burn incesne too
Can us non-smokers turn up at the assembly point with fire extinguishers? :-)
bah, cigarettes, child's "make me cooler" toy, f :cuss chain smokers :cuss
I prefer these
(http://wave-spirit.net/media/shisha.jpg)
or these
(http://www.davidoff.andorra.com/eng/img/habanos.gif)
on rare occasions :3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 05, 2006, 06:36:51 AM
Can us non-smokers turn up at the assembly point with fire extinguishers? :-)
why yes of course :3
*Charles quotes from Aladdin* Combination hookah and coffee maker! Also makes julienne fries! Guarateed will not break... eh... it broke... *toss* :mowhappy
Smoking is expensive. But, I wouldn't care if people smoked so long as I don't have to pick up their medical bills in rasied insurance premiums and hospital costs. I figure, it's your choice to smoke, and your choice to risk disease and death... But I shouldn't have to pay for your choice too. You could say before that the tobacco companies were hiding facts, but now it's all out there, all over the place. If you start now, you're on your own.
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 04, 2006, 06:06:26 PM
I like smokers. Smoking is medically proven to make you 33% cooler.
Indeed. You lose a lot of body heat when you die.
Quote from: Gabi on October 05, 2006, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 04, 2006, 06:06:26 PM
I like smokers. Smoking is medically proven to make you 33% cooler.
Indeed. You lose a lot of body heat when you die.
:laugh *applauds Gabi*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 05, 2006, 06:36:51 AM
Can us non-smokers turn up at the assembly point with fire extinguishers? :-)
I'm starting to think that there would be only one ;p
...
Sweet, I'm the Highlander of cigarettes. :trooper
Nah. Us non-smokers are just more verbal about it.
.. but then, we're more verbal about everything, since we don't have to stop and catch our breath so often... ;-)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 05, 2006, 11:19:16 AM
Nah. Us non-smokers are just more verbal about it.
Yes, we are a bit like vegans.
Each time vegans feel the urge to eat meat, they tell someone they are vegan.
Each time we feel like a smoke, we tell someone we don't smoke. ;)
While I am not a smoker myself, I do get annoyed at these people preaching in smokers' faces and saying "OMFG DONT SMOKE YOU FOOL" and "LOL SMOKERS SUCK", because not only is it rather rude, it also makes people who smoke feel like a piece of s**t.
It is up to people themselves to decide whether they want to smoke, some of my friends do and i couldn't care less, it doesn't change their personality or anything (unless they haven't had any cigarettes in a few days, then they get a little cranky >.>). A lot of smokers i know feel guilty about smoking as it is without having some self-righteous idiot who has appointed themselves the governor of morals preaching in their faces about how they shouldn't do it.
Don't get me wrong, smoking kills i know, but what smokers need is advice, not lectures.
There's my thoughts, anyway.
I don't have an issue with smokers, I grew up around them. I'm probably the only one in the family who has never picked up smoking as a habit.
I have tried a cigarrette or two, never really felt much of an appeal. Honestly I kind of liked the rare cigar better. When I was in college, going through the smokescreen outside of class was annoying, but there was always one person on Fridays who would smoke what I think were clove cigarrettes or something because they smelled rather fragrant and almost sweet. If I did pick up smoking, I'd probably give those a try.
But I'm too broke and really don't have the time for a new addiction.
Beer and Coffee YES!
Hard Alcohol and Tobacco NO!
Beer and strawberries yogurt, the champion's breakfast :3
Vodka and cigarettes, because breakfast is the most important meal of the day! :-)
nononono, potatoes for the evening, you need bread in the morning :B
Quote from: Gornemant on October 05, 2006, 06:10:29 PM
nononono, potatoes for the evening, you need bread in the morning :B
Only in Soviet Russia.
>> i'm considering going with a few of my friend and trying out a bit of what they smoke.. >>
Quote from: Xze-Xze on October 07, 2006, 12:27:51 AM
>> i'm considering going with a few of my friend and trying out a bit of what they smoke.. >>
YOU'RE THIRTEEN. Wait a few years. Jesus christ.
Actually I think Xze is 17...
Granted by law thats still illigal, but honestly I could care less what one does in their freetime. Just don't post about it incriminating yourself.
walking by people smoking ciggarettes makes me cough, and then I sound like I'm dying, so smoking's a no with me.
caffeine=hellz yes, though. >>
oh noes, smoking at 13. or, god forbid, 17!
I'm sorry, but do you know anythign that goes on in school systems these days? I can't go a day in my school withotu passing at least one person that was just smoking. *The smell kinda gives them away* Every morning on my way in, I see this group of sophmores smoking not far from the school.
Kids smoke. I don't condone it, but it happens and there's really nothign that can be done. You can tell them its bad, you can try and convince them not to, but its their choice, and they do what they want.
Sorry if I seem rude, but.... yeah.
I just don't see the point. It's expensive, and all it does is kill you. Well, shorten life expectancy, anyway.
W00t, I get to sound like a hypocrite now! If you decide to smoke don't start because your friends do.
It's bad, and wrong, it's badong.
(And if your curious, I started because I needed something to reduce stress.)
The issue insanekaosx isn't so much that they are smoking, so much that they are advocating/admitting it on a forum...where as its been shown many times that things people confess in public domains such as these have a tendency to bite either the poster or the forum-owners in the butt.
I did not tell Xze she shouldn't do something, so much that she shouldn't be going to a public forum to say she's doing something illigal. It is like if someone comes around asking for torrent sites. I could care less if people are downloading illigal files, but the forum is not the place to discuss things on.
Aheh, that wasn't aimed at you Amber, sorry >> I should'a quoted.
Was more towards Slaveki, but it could be in general as well I guess.
You are right though, this really isn't the place to discuss illegal matters *shoves bag under a couch with his foot >>*
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on October 07, 2006, 03:31:44 AM
W00t, I get to sound like a hypocrite now! If you decide to smoke don't start because your friends do.
It's bad, and wrong, it's badong.
(And if your curious, I started because I needed something to reduce stress.)
I guess 99% of all smokers started that way, kids that wanted to be "cool", "rebelz", "go with the flow" and end up like sheeps, see any irony there? :3
I've always been the black sheep anyway, bwahaha :kruger
I'm pretty sure that underage smoking is legal. Underage purchasing of cigarettes, or purchasing cigarettes to give to underage citizens is not.
The only place I mind smokers is in restaurants. That smell doesn't mix with food. But other than that, I really don't care. Probably the only reason I don't smoke is that I don't have the money for it and that my parents would freak (and I really don't need that right now. They already think I'm turning into some depressed wierdo just because I got bored in algebra and sharpied little black stars on my nails. o_O)
To tell the truth, I couldn't care less about my health. It's just that my uncle, a lifelong smoker, just got lung cancer, and he's definitely one of the greatest people I know. It makes me sad that I'm going to get to spend less time with him because of cigarettes.
No smoking or drinking for me. I'm strictly never touching the stuff- not just because of my religious beliefs, but after the people I had to hang out with last year at TAFE. Each day I went, I was bombarded with second-hand smoke... because EVERYONE smokes at TAFE, even the teachers. >.<
Not to mention I'm sensitive to the stuff... I do hate having the smell of cigarettes in my lungs all day D:
As much as I wish people would stop abusing their bodies that way, I guess I don't have much of a say in it. -.-
Quote from: Slavkei on October 07, 2006, 01:03:00 AM
Quote from: Xze-Xze on October 07, 2006, 12:27:51 AM
>> I'm considering going with a few of my friend and trying out a bit of what they smoke.. >>
YOU'RE THIRTEEN. Wait a few years. Jesus Christ.
I had ONE puff when I was 7. Cured for life after that.
My sensei smoked but when he got married last month his wife forced him to stop. The poor guy went cold turkey and got really sick for a few days before starting to recover. Unfortunately he's feeling much better now and has a lot more energy which means that we all have to work twice as hard at training :U. Seriously though, I'm glad he quit and it's really great to see him doing so well :)
http://ydouthink.com/joomla/facts.html
QuoteCan Anybody Tell Us Why Smoking Isn't Stupid?
* Girls who smoke are 7 times more likely to grow excess facial hair.
* Teens who smoke produce twice as much phlegm as teens who don't.
* Smoking causes "hairy tongues" from the tar.
* Teenage smokers see shrinks more than other teens.
* Cigarettes contain formaldehyde - the same stuff used to preserve dead frogs.
* Teens who smoke are more likely to catch a cold than people who don't-and their symptoms will probably be worse and last longer.
* Studies find nonsmoking women to be more physically attractive.
* Smoking is known to cause impotence in men.
* The Marlboro man died from emphysema.
* Teen smokers are more likely to gain belly fat.
* Male smokers are more likely to have mutated sperm.
* Puppies can die from eating 2 cigarette butts.
* Cigarette smoke causes asthma in cats.
* Smokers earn 10% less money than non-smokers.
* Over 7,000 companies do not hire smokers
* Kids who smoke 2 or 3 cigarettes a day can get hooked in as short as two weeks.
* Once they get hooked, the average smoker smokes for seventeen years.
* A Canadian dies every 12 minutes from tobacco use.
* 72% of high school seniors consider smoking a dirty habit, and say they'd rather date someone who doesn't smoke.
* Smoking is more common among individuals with less education and lower income.
* Smokers run slower and can't run as far as non-smokers.
* Cigars and spit tobacco are not safe alternatives to smoking.
* Even short-term use of spit tobacco can cause cracked lips, white spots, sores, and bleeding in your mouth.
* Many kids start smoking (even though they know it's stupid) because they don't know how to say no to tobacco.
* Smoking is the major cause of heart disease.
* Operations to remove oral cancers caused by tobacco can permanently change the shape of your face.
* People who try to quit chewing tobacco have the same symptoms as people trying to quit cigarettes.
* Spit tobacco diminishes your sense of taste, so food doesn't taste as good.
* Spit tobacco can cause tooth decay.
* Smoking can lead to diseases that make your hair fall out.
* Smokers are 1 1/2 times more likely than non-smokers to lose their teeth.
* Cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide, the same poisonous gas in car exhaust.
* Smoking a pack a day for a whole year will cost you about $1200.
* Quitting smoking now can boost your energy and stamina within just a few days.
* Secondhand smoke fills the air with many of the same poisons found in the air around toxic waste dumps.
* Smoking can decrease your life expectancy by as much as 15-25 years.
* Carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke can make your skin look wrinkled and gray.
* A single, large cigar smoked in one hour can contain as much tobacco as a pack of cigarettes.
* You might think smoking calms your nerves, but actually it can increase your anxiety.
* Among high school seniors who smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, 70% will still be smoking-and risking their health-5 years later.
* Tobacco is the only legal substance that is lethal when used as intended by the manufacturer.
* It takes 25 years for a cigarette butt to decompose.
* Cigarettes contain over 4,000 chemicals.
* Worldwide, 600 trillion cigarettes are sold each year.
* Secondhand smoke is just as bad for pets as it is for people.
* Studies show that smokers are more likely than non-smokers to go deaf as they grow older.
* Chewing tobacco lessens a person's senses of taste and smell. As a result, users tend to eat more salty and sweet foods, both of which are harmful if consumed in excess.
* 44% of teens say they didn't know bidi cigarettes could lead to cancer.
* One bidi cigarette produces 3 times as much nicotine and carbon monoxide as a regular cigarette and 5 times as much tar.
* Smoking just one cigarette is enough to impair the function of the heart so it has to work harder.
* Each year in the U.S. there are more tobacco-related deaths than deaths from AIDS, car accidents, murders, suicide, drug overdoses and fires combined.
* Teenagers who smoke have poorer general health than those who do not smoke.
* Teenagers who smoke use more medications than those who do not smoke.
* Teenagers who smoke have significantly more trouble sleeping than those who do not smoke.
* Lung cancer has surpassed breast cancer as the leading cause of cancer deaths among females .
* Tobacco companies spent more than $12.7 Billion each year on advertising.† That is 26 times the money NIKE made in 2003.
* Smokers have about 10 times as many wrinkles as non-smokers.
* Every 3 years, tobacco kills as many Americans as all our wars combined--over 1,000,000 people.
* Nearly 1 in 5 deaths in the U.S. are related to smoking.
* The most recent tobacco use figures for Virginia show that 4 of 5 High School students don't smoke.
* 40% of teenagers who smoke daily have tried to quit and failed.
* Nicotine is more addictive than so-called "harder" drugs. 1 in 3 users become addicted, compared to 1 in 9 for regular alcohol users and 1 in 4 for crack or cocaine users.
* Teens who try to quit smoking suffer the same nicotine withdrawal symptoms as adults who try to quit.
* About 2/3 of teen smokers say they want to quit smoking, and 70% say they would not have started if they could choose again.
* An estimated 1 billion packs of cigarettes are sold to minors under the age of 18 every year.
* Each cigarette you smoke cuts 11 minutes from your life expectancy.
* 1 out of 3 young people who become regular smokers will die of a smoking related disease.
* Young adult smokers are 43% more likely to suffer a stroke than their non-smoking peers.
* Secondhand smoke may cause thousands of healthy kids to develop asthma each year.
* Smoking as few as 5 cigarettes a day can reduce teens' lung function growth, with teenage girls being especially vulnerable.
* Girls and women are significantly more likely than boys to report feeling dependent on cigarettes and are more likely to report feeling sad, blue or depressed during attempts to quit.
* Studies rank secondhand smoke as the third leading cause of preventable death in the U.S., after active smoking and alcohol use, with 53,000 deaths annually.
* Smokers are admitted to hospitals twice as often as nonsmokers.
* A recent study showed that in households where both parents smoke, kids take in a nicotine equivalent of smoking 80 cigarettes a year.
* In 2000, the largest single cause of fatal accidental house fires was the careless handling and disposal of smoking materials.
* Smoking can cause gangrene in your leg because it makes you 16 times more likely to have blocked blood vessels in your legs and feet.
* Smoking costs Virginians $1.92 billion a year in healthcare costs.
* The tobacco industry spends $528 million each year marketing its products in Virginia.
* Each year, the tobacco industry contributes over $2.5 Million to political parties and federal candidates.
* Most Virginia kids who don't smoke say it's because they want to stay healthy.
* If you smoke and you break a bone it can take longer to heal.
* If you smoke when you're young it can stunt your lung growth.
* Smokers are three times more likely to get out of breath when they play sports.
* Smoking can make you look old when you're still young.
* Kids in Virginia who smoke are more likely to say it's because they are addicted than any other reason.
* Every day, 3,000 young people become regular tobacco users and 4,800 smoke their first cigarette.
* Tobacco smoke makes your hair and clothes stink!
* Tobacco stains teeth and causes bad breath.
* Nicotine narrows your blood vessels and puts extra strain on your heart.
* Kids who start smoking are more likely to get lower grades in school.
* Smoking can wreck your lungs and reduce the amount of oxygen available to your muscles when you play sports.
* Tobacco is the most widely grown non-food crop in 120 countries - 10 to 20 million people could be fed if food crop was grown in its place.
* Burning tobacco is the main source of indoor pollution in the developed world.
* One whole tree is needed to cure the tobacco for 300 cigarettes.
* Smokers have more back pain than non-smokers.
* By age 11, kids of mothers who smoked more than 10 cigarettes a day during pregnancy are shorter and below average in reading and math than kids of non-smoking mothers.
* A person who uses 8-10 dips or chews a day receives the same amount of nicotine as a heavy smoker who smokes 30-40 cigarettes a day.
:)
Quote from: Anara on October 08, 2006, 12:47:52 AM
My sensei smoked but when he got married last month his wife forced him to stop. The poor guy went cold turkey and got really sick for a few days before starting to recover. Unfortunately he's feeling much better now and has a lot more energy which means that we all have to work twice as hard at training :U. Seriously though, I'm glad he quit and it's really great to see him doing so well :)
oh I'm sure his wife is also pleased with him having more energy... eh hem :)
Quote from: Gornemant on October 08, 2006, 09:05:09 AM
http://ydouthink.com/joomla/facts.html
QuoteCan Anybody Tell Us Why Smoking Isn't Stupid?
* Girls who smoke are 7 times more likely to grow excess facial hair.
* Teens who smoke produce twice as much phlegm as teens who don't.
* Smoking causes "hairy tongues" from the tar.
* Teenage smokers see shrinks more than other teens.
* Cigarettes contain formaldehyde - the same stuff used to preserve dead frogs.
* Teens who smoke are more likely to catch a cold than people who don't-and their symptoms will probably be worse and last longer.
* Studies find nonsmoking women to be more physically attractive.
* Smoking is known to cause impotence in men.
* The Marlboro man died from emphysema.
* Teen smokers are more likely to gain belly fat.
* Male smokers are more likely to have mutated sperm.
* Puppies can die from eating 2 cigarette butts.
* Cigarette smoke causes asthma in cats.
* Smokers earn 10% less money than non-smokers.
* Over 7,000 companies do not hire smokers
* Kids who smoke 2 or 3 cigarettes a day can get hooked in as short as two weeks.
* Once they get hooked, the average smoker smokes for seventeen years.
* A Canadian dies every 12 minutes from tobacco use.
* 72% of high school seniors consider smoking a dirty habit, and say they'd rather date someone who doesn't smoke.
* Smoking is more common among individuals with less education and lower income.
* Smokers run slower and can't run as far as non-smokers.
* Cigars and spit tobacco are not safe alternatives to smoking.
* Even short-term use of spit tobacco can cause cracked lips, white spots, sores, and bleeding in your mouth.
* Many kids start smoking (even though they know it's stupid) because they don't know how to say no to tobacco.
* Smoking is the major cause of heart disease.
* Operations to remove oral cancers caused by tobacco can permanently change the shape of your face.
* People who try to quit chewing tobacco have the same symptoms as people trying to quit cigarettes.
* Spit tobacco diminishes your sense of taste, so food doesn't taste as good.
* Spit tobacco can cause tooth decay.
* Smoking can lead to diseases that make your hair fall out.
* Smokers are 1 1/2 times more likely than non-smokers to lose their teeth.
* Cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide, the same poisonous gas in car exhaust.
* Smoking a pack a day for a whole year will cost you about $1200.
* Quitting smoking now can boost your energy and stamina within just a few days.
* Secondhand smoke fills the air with many of the same poisons found in the air around toxic waste dumps.
* Smoking can decrease your life expectancy by as much as 15-25 years.
* Carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke can make your skin look wrinkled and gray.
* A single, large cigar smoked in one hour can contain as much tobacco as a pack of cigarettes.
* You might think smoking calms your nerves, but actually it can increase your anxiety.
* Among high school seniors who smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, 70% will still be smoking-and risking their health-5 years later.
* Tobacco is the only legal substance that is lethal when used as intended by the manufacturer.
* It takes 25 years for a cigarette butt to decompose.
* Cigarettes contain over 4,000 chemicals.
* Worldwide, 600 trillion cigarettes are sold each year.
* Secondhand smoke is just as bad for pets as it is for people.
* Studies show that smokers are more likely than non-smokers to go deaf as they grow older.
* Chewing tobacco lessens a person's senses of taste and smell. As a result, users tend to eat more salty and sweet foods, both of which are harmful if consumed in excess.
* 44% of teens say they didn't know bidi cigarettes could lead to cancer.
* One bidi cigarette produces 3 times as much nicotine and carbon monoxide as a regular cigarette and 5 times as much tar.
* Smoking just one cigarette is enough to impair the function of the heart so it has to work harder.
* Each year in the U.S. there are more tobacco-related deaths than deaths from AIDS, car accidents, murders, suicide, drug overdoses and fires combined.
* Teenagers who smoke have poorer general health than those who do not smoke.
* Teenagers who smoke use more medications than those who do not smoke.
* Teenagers who smoke have significantly more trouble sleeping than those who do not smoke.
* Lung cancer has surpassed breast cancer as the leading cause of cancer deaths among females .
* Tobacco companies spent more than $12.7 Billion each year on advertising.† That is 26 times the money NIKE made in 2003.
* Smokers have about 10 times as many wrinkles as non-smokers.
* Every 3 years, tobacco kills as many Americans as all our wars combined--over 1,000,000 people.
* Nearly 1 in 5 deaths in the U.S. are related to smoking.
* The most recent tobacco use figures for Virginia show that 4 of 5 High School students don't smoke.
* 40% of teenagers who smoke daily have tried to quit and failed.
* Nicotine is more addictive than so-called "harder" drugs. 1 in 3 users become addicted, compared to 1 in 9 for regular alcohol users and 1 in 4 for crack or cocaine users.
* Teens who try to quit smoking suffer the same nicotine withdrawal symptoms as adults who try to quit.
* About 2/3 of teen smokers say they want to quit smoking, and 70% say they would not have started if they could choose again.
* An estimated 1 billion packs of cigarettes are sold to minors under the age of 18 every year.
* Each cigarette you smoke cuts 11 minutes from your life expectancy.
* 1 out of 3 young people who become regular smokers will die of a smoking related disease.
* Young adult smokers are 43% more likely to suffer a stroke than their non-smoking peers.
* Secondhand smoke may cause thousands of healthy kids to develop asthma each year.
* Smoking as few as 5 cigarettes a day can reduce teens' lung function growth, with teenage girls being especially vulnerable.
* Girls and women are significantly more likely than boys to report feeling dependent on cigarettes and are more likely to report feeling sad, blue or depressed during attempts to quit.
* Studies rank secondhand smoke as the third leading cause of preventable death in the U.S., after active smoking and alcohol use, with 53,000 deaths annually.
* Smokers are admitted to hospitals twice as often as nonsmokers.
* A recent study showed that in households where both parents smoke, kids take in a nicotine equivalent of smoking 80 cigarettes a year.
* In 2000, the largest single cause of fatal accidental house fires was the careless handling and disposal of smoking materials.
* Smoking can cause gangrene in your leg because it makes you 16 times more likely to have blocked blood vessels in your legs and feet.
* Smoking costs Virginians $1.92 billion a year in healthcare costs.
* The tobacco industry spends $528 million each year marketing its products in Virginia.
* Each year, the tobacco industry contributes over $2.5 Million to political parties and federal candidates.
* Most Virginia kids who don't smoke say it's because they want to stay healthy.
* If you smoke and you break a bone it can take longer to heal.
* If you smoke when you're young it can stunt your lung growth.
* Smokers are three times more likely to get out of breath when they play sports.
* Smoking can make you look old when you're still young.
* Kids in Virginia who smoke are more likely to say it's because they are addicted than any other reason.
* Every day, 3,000 young people become regular tobacco users and 4,800 smoke their first cigarette.
* Tobacco smoke makes your hair and clothes stink!
* Tobacco stains teeth and causes bad breath.
* Nicotine narrows your blood vessels and puts extra strain on your heart.
* Kids who start smoking are more likely to get lower grades in school.
* Smoking can wreck your lungs and reduce the amount of oxygen available to your muscles when you play sports.
* Tobacco is the most widely grown non-food crop in 120 countries - 10 to 20 million people could be fed if food crop was grown in its place.
* Burning tobacco is the main source of indoor pollution in the developed world.
* One whole tree is needed to cure the tobacco for 300 cigarettes.
* Smokers have more back pain than non-smokers.
* By age 11, kids of mothers who smoked more than 10 cigarettes a day during pregnancy are shorter and below average in reading and math than kids of non-smoking mothers.
* A person who uses 8-10 dips or chews a day receives the same amount of nicotine as a heavy smoker who smokes 30-40 cigarettes a day.
:)
Quote from: Anara on October 08, 2006, 12:47:52 AM
My sensei smoked but when he got married last month his wife forced him to stop. The poor guy went cold turkey and got really sick for a few days before starting to recover. Unfortunately he's feeling much better now and has a lot more energy which means that we all have to work twice as hard at training :U. Seriously though, I'm glad he quit and it's really great to see him doing so well :)
oh I'm sure his wife is also pleased with him having more energy... eh hem :)
You forgot one major fact.
SMOKING is COOL! :P
I'm watching Constantine right now. If I've ever considered smoking, that movie would be the one to make me stop.
John Constantine: [to a spider he's trapped under a cigarette-smoke filled glass] Welcome to my life.
Gabriel: You're going to die young because you smoked 30 cigarettes a day since you were 15... and you're going to go to hell because of the life you took. John... You're fucked.
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 08, 2006, 02:17:28 PM
You forgot one major fact.
SMOKING is COOL! :P
that's consumerism propaganda D:
Quote from: Slavkei on October 07, 2006, 01:03:00 AM
Quote from: Xze-Xze on October 07, 2006, 12:27:51 AM
>> i'm considering going with a few of my friend and trying out a bit of what they smoke.. >>
YOU'RE THIRTEEN. Wait a few years. Jesus christ.
;; do i seem 13?
Quote from: Gornemant on October 08, 2006, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 08, 2006, 02:17:28 PM
You forgot one major fact.
SMOKING is COOL! :P
that's consumerism propaganda D:
You seem agitated. Wouldn't you like an ice-cold refreshing Coca-Cola?
:lol; You're evil, Bill.
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 08, 2006, 05:13:38 PM
You seem agitated. Wouldn't you like an ice-cold refreshing Coca-Cola?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 'A'
Quote from: Gornemant on October 08, 2006, 05:26:35 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 08, 2006, 05:13:38 PM
You seem agitated. Wouldn't you like an ice-cold refreshing Coca-Cola?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 'A'
Oh? Would you prefer a Pepsi, then?
How 'bout a delightfully bittersweet Moxie?
(moxie rules)
Quote from: Gornemant on October 08, 2006, 09:05:09 AM
http://ydouthink.com/joomla/facts.html
Quote from: Anara on October 08, 2006, 12:47:52 AM
My sensei smoked but when he got married last month his wife forced him to stop. The poor guy went cold turkey and got really sick for a few days before starting to recover. Unfortunately he's feeling much better now and has a lot more energy which means that we all have to work twice as hard at training :U. Seriously though, I'm glad he quit and it's really great to see him doing so well :)
oh I'm sure his wife is also pleased with him having more energy... eh hem :)
She's already pregnant ;)
well all that much more to get back in shape after giving birth... :U
Remember, if you stop smoking, you will get FAT.
All jokes aside, I'd never smoke. However, I do think that the restrictions on cigarette advertiesemt are absolutely stupid. I'm a big Formula 1 fan, and at any season since corporate sponsorship was allowed, about half the field were cig cars. The only influence this has had on me, is that if I were to start smoking, I would smoke West cigarettes. Mika FTW!
Becasue this thread needs a little pit of smoker pride!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/kaligathy/cig.jpg)
Bout friggen time someone else stepped up XD
That brings the count (unless I lost the abillity to read correctly) to 2 out of four hundred and something.
Only 2?
My forum is full of hippies! D:
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/489/cig2nx4.jpg)
Nothin' better to do :B
*hands out tie-dye t-shirts*
Oh... and only look at this if you want to quit smoking...
http://www.quitnow.info.au/internet/quitnow/publishing.nsf/content/smokescreen-lp
Feel lucky if you're not in Australia- we have some of the "worst" quit smoking ads, EVER.
does pot count?
I never really developed the habit of smoking, not in my nature. Of my family Ive only seen one of my uncles [who is now paralyzed because of a stroke from drinking, smoking, and eatimg fat foods too much] and my lil' sister whom have recently stopped bcause of her epillepsy.
Quote from: RJ on October 11, 2006, 01:49:28 AM
*hands out tie-dye t-shirts*
Oh... and only look at this if you want to quit smoking...
http://www.quitnow.info.au/internet/quitnow/publishing.nsf/content/smokescreen-lp
Feel lucky if you're not in Australia- we have some of the "worst" quit smoking ads, EVER.
I wish they had ads like those here.
The mouth cancer one is the most terrifying. And as far as I know, it's the one that's gotten the most complaints. It's funny that people complain that it should be taken off because it scares them, but it's supposed to do that. Boo-hoo if little kids get scared from it (I say)- more reason for them not to take it up.
Heh, reminds me of those VW commericals where the peeps get in an accident. Everyone was complaining about them, but they get the point across really well.
The main drawback behind scarier commercials is that sometimes the message gets ultimately lost in the shock/fear.
There was once a commercial for the anti-drug campaign around here where this little girl is in a bedroom and it starts filling up with water. It was suppose to have the message that what feels like a high is your brain drowning, and they show a shot of her underwater pounding on the glass window and then just floating dead.
That commercial scared me to heck...but it was only many years later did I realize it was an anti-drug commercial. It made me more scared of death via drowning than anything.
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Canada is kind of wacky. For a very "liberal" country, it is very vicious when it comes to cigarrettes. They have images of grisly things on the very containers of cigarettes.
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I don't advocate smoking, but honestly I don't see the need to be incredibly vicious in getting adults who are old enough to decide for themselves to quit. I have a few friends who smoke, and I've seen some people be downright assholes to them despite knowing nothing about them other than that they were smoking in an open-outdoor area where smoking was allowed even.
In some ways it feels almost like harrassment.
The mouth cancer ad we have here is actually quite tasteful after you get past the shock of it. It's quite direct, not metaphorical, and it centres around the woman speaking (that's the shock part- first you see the mouth, then it zooms out and show the woman with it, and she speaks about how cancer did this to her).
^_^; You know, sometimes I do feel like saying something to people. Mostly whenever I see a mother smoking with her baby in her arms (trust me, it's quite common to see where I'm from), but I'm too shy to...
OMG! The add where they go to cut the guys foot off is disgusting :yuck
Your right RJ, the adds down here are pretty intense. They even stuck one of the posters up right next to my locker for a while, not the sort of thing I want to look at every morning >_<
I don't like it when people smoke and if any of my friends started I'd probably get really annoyed at them but on the other hand, as long at people know the consequences of their actions I don't see why anyone else has the right to judge them or try to make them stop. It's their life.
Hmm, mouth cancer is far more common with chewing tobacco rather than cigarettes. We have had a few like that, though, mainly from people who had a cigarette hanging from one side of their mouth pretty much all day, every day.
Yet my grandfather started smoking at age 17 and didn't quit until he was 80, after his major heart attack... then he lived until he was 91. He did get diagnosed with lung cancer at the end, but his bad heart gave out first.
Meh, something's eventually gonna get ya, no matter what you do. :B
cigarrete, cigar, pot, crack, whatever, if someone else uses it it's not really my problem. personally I think the only difference between tobacco between something more illegal such as put, heroin, whatever is that it's legal, and I'm not saying to make tobacco look bad.
I think it's hypocrite to allow alcohol and tobacco (in some places, pot as well) and not allow others, I don't see any clear difference between them..
however I have a few classmates who smoke and then suddendly feel the need to smoke and then leave for up to 20 minutes, it's pretty annoying when we're on the mid of something
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 11, 2006, 01:37:37 AM
Only 2?
My forum is full of hippies! D:
correction, if they were all hippies, they would smoke.....
just something else :3
Quote from: Jack McSlay on October 11, 2006, 10:46:20 PM
I think it's hypocrite to allow alcohol and tobacco (in some places, pot as well) and not allow others, I don't see any clear difference between them..
There tends to be a noticable difference between someone who smokes a single cigarrette and goes back to work versus someone who shoots a line of heroin and then proceeds to fling themselves off a building thinking they can fly.
Honestly, you could do maybe 5 minutes of wikipedia research and find out the differences for yourself and why they are considered different from cigarrettes and alchohol. Granted all drugs of any scale will be a mood stimulant/depressant...but there are multiple factors that separate nicotine and alchohol from things like Meth and Crack.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 12, 2006, 01:56:31 AMbut there are multiple factors that separate nicotine and alchohol from things like Meth and Crack.
Oh yeah.
Remember kids.
Cigs + Coffee = Laxitive
Their will be a quiz.
:D
:yasrsly
Amber is quite right. Virtually every illegal drug (with marijuana as a notable exception, THC now showing very significant effects as a possible Alzheimer's treatment) has very severe side effects in small doses and the addictive potential is exponentially stronger.
Heroin withdrawal can be fatal, and the addiction is so powerful that lab animals will die of starvation or dehydration if given the choice between the drug and water/food. The same goes for cocaine and crack.
Phencyclidine (PCP) frequently triggers psychotic episodes in frequent users, leading to murderous delusions. PCP is also directly neurotoxic, stimulating NMDA receptors and causing prolonged depolarization of neurons, leading to the eventual death of those neurons. Blood pressure, pulse rate, and respiration drop. High doses cause seizures and coma (not to mention outright death).
Ecstasy (methylenedioxymethamphetamine-MDMA) almost extinguishes inhibitions and psychological barriers, also repressing thrist and exhaustion sensations leading to dehydration. The effects are caused by increased serotonin secretion and inhibition of re-uptake, which may lead to depression due to the artificial upregulation which induces downregulation of production. Paradoxically, the drug can also cause the inverse effect of water intoxication (hyponatremia) in some people due to the stimulation of vasopressin secretion, resulting in water retention, which can be fatal. The come-down period (known as 'suicide Tuesday') is an example of the withdrawal danger. The depression caused by serotonin depletion can be severe and lead to suicide.
Other amphetamines increase aggression, irrationality, and cause brain damage in the long-term. Adolf Hitler was addicted to amphetamines... nuff said!
LSD, now seen to be making a comeback, has the obvious effects of illusions and visual distortion, plus very intense fantasies. It is derived from lysergic acid found in ergot, a very poisonous fungus that grows on grain. Its main danger is that during a regular trip, the user may have loss of comprehension and understanding of danger, thus leading to life-threatening situations.
Essentially, nicotine and alcohol are mild drugs compared to virtually everything else on the illegal market. :P
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 12, 2006, 01:56:31 AM
Quote from: Jack McSlay on October 11, 2006, 10:46:20 PM
I think it's hypocrite to allow alcohol and tobacco (in some places, pot as well) and not allow others, I don't see any clear difference between them..
There tends to be a noticeable difference between someone who smokes a single cigarette and goes back to work versus someone who shoots a line of heroin and then proceeds to fling themselves off a building thinking they can fly.
Honestly, you could do maybe 5 minutes of wikipedia research and find out the differences for yourself and why they are considered different from cigarettes and alcohol. Granted all drugs of any scale will be a mood stimulant/depressant...but there are multiple factors that separate nicotine and alcohol from things like Meth and Crack.
Indeed.
Though pot is comparable in destructiveness to tobacco or alcohol, and is, in fact, not a hard drug (you don't get physically addicted to the stuff), it gets cracked down upon disproportionally harsh by US law.
A friend of mine has smoked pot (in moderation) in the past, and he now has a masters degree in philosophy. (no, not thanks to his 'pot habit'. He dropped the weed before he decided on his study.)
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