Home from work our Juliet clears her morning meal
She dabs her skin with pretty smells, concealing to appeal.
I will make my bed, she said, but turned to go
Can she be late for her cinema show?
Romeo locks his basement flat and scurries up the stair.
With head held high and floral tie, a weekend millionaire.
I will make my bed with her tonight, he cries.
Can he fail armed with his chocolate surprise?
--Cinema Show, Genesis
Hopefully her date with Mr. Lynx didn't end up like her date with Jakob, which was a little fraught.
And before Merlin starts sulking about Illiath being straight, she's probably bi.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 04, 2016, 05:11:37 AM
And before Merlin starts sulking about Illiath being straight, she's probably bi.
I'm still mad about the Addams Family musical! Such catchy tunes, such rubbish story
Illie should look into reality TV, people get so mad watching Dr Phil
Incidentally, is it normal, when someone ships one of your characters, to switch into Father Mode and start tut-tutting about their choice of date?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 04, 2016, 05:28:25 AM
Incidentally, is it normal, when someone ships one of your characters, to switch into Father Mode and start tut-tutting about their choice of date?
It's OK she's a big girl now she has to make her own mistakes
Quote from: Merlin on November 04, 2016, 05:20:44 AM
I'm still mad about the Addams Family musical! Such catchy tunes, such rubbish story
Aww. I liked it. That is to say, I liked the heavily revised version they did after the show went off broadway and then went on tour. Fixes most everything that was wrong with it which, in the 2010 version, a lot of things were wrong with it. Music is always good though yes. It was really fun to play when my school put it on...
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 04, 2016, 05:28:25 AM
Incidentally, is it normal, when someone ships one of your characters, to switch into Father Mode and start tut-tutting about their choice of date?
From my experience... yes. A pang of disapproval. Shaking your head, thinking about how your child-- I mean character!!! ...can do so much better.
So I totally missed that Illiath was female.... Maybe I'm just slow.
However, props to Amber for making armor that has realism and not just silly eye candy.
Bisexuals. Bisexuals for everyone! HAHAHAHAHAHA~
Actually in retrospect I probably should have checked where Illiath sits on the old Kinsey scale. :U
*sits back and basks in all the Dan/Illiath shipping that has begun* :B
I'm just laughing at the date. Love it when Cubi come up with creative ideas to feed their affiliations.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 04, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
Actually in retrospect I probably should have checked where Illiath sits on the old Kinsey scale. :U
*sits back and basks in all the Dan/Illiath shipping that has begun* :B
Don't know if I can see it as a romantic ship... but Dan/Illiath is definitely my new...
(http://i.imgur.com/aFGCTt7.png)
Hrmph. Normally I'm good at coming up with ship names but I'm drawing a blank on this one...
Quote from: Puyon on November 04, 2016, 02:42:35 PM
Hrmph. Normally I'm good at coming up with ship names but I'm drawing a blank on this one...
Daniath? Illidan? Punch and Danny?
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 04, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
Bisexuals. Bisexuals for everyone! HAHAHAHAHAHA~
Actually in retrospect I probably should have checked where Illiath sits on the old Kinsey scale. :U
...am I the only one who thought that was a woman in the last two panels?
Quote from: Lying Foo on November 04, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 04, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
Bisexuals. Bisexuals for everyone! HAHAHAHAHAHA~
Actually in retrospect I probably should have checked where Illiath sits on the old Kinsey scale. :U
...am I the only one who thought that was a woman in the last two panels?
I did not, but now that I see it I refuse to believe otherwise :D
Quote from: Puyon on November 04, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Aww. I liked it. That is to say, I liked the heavily revised version they did after the show went off broadway and then went on tour. Fixes most everything that was wrong with it which, in the 2010 version, a lot of things were wrong with it. Music is always good though yes. It was really fun to play when my school put it on...
Ooh clearly I should check
that version...
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...am I the only one who thought that was a woman in the last two panels?
Androgeny! Androgeny for everyone! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH~
Quote from: Tilendor on November 04, 2016, 11:39:35 AM
So I totally missed that Illiath was female.... Maybe I'm just slow.
Contrary to popular belief, I do have female characters in my stories as well as male ones...
That said, you're not the first to say this. It seems likely that Taun clan members are fairly androgynous - recall that Jeremiah was thought to be female, and Quill isn't that well-endowed either.
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However, props to Amber for making armor that has realism and not just silly eye candy.
Indeed. The 'boob armour' thing has recently become a pet peeve of mine and I'm trying to ensure that Illie doesn't have that in future appearances.
You know, now I am imagining that cubi from Taun's clan would feel very at home in internet cafes that have online gaming. Enough rage to feed twenty of them at once! (Though I'm sure the power of a source has nothing to do with how many can feed)
Quote from: Anri on November 04, 2016, 08:41:13 PM
You know, now I am imagining that cubi from Taun's clan would feel very at home in internet cafes that have online gaming. Enough rage to feed twenty of them at once! (Though I'm sure the power of a source has nothing to do with how many can feed)
That's a really interesting thing to ponder actually; we know they have some level of gaming tech (Wildy plays video games and she and Dan have gone DDR clubbing before) and also the internet (which Mink was forbidden from using for his clan leader report) but do they have online multiplayer yet? I know you said gamer cafe, where folks would be physically gathered, but could cubi feel and feed off of emotions that are being transmitted remotely? Or do they have to be physically present in order to snack on screaming sniper victims? Could someone from Jin's clan run around as an MMO cleric, or the Kish'ta clan use Let's Plays of Five Nights at Freddy's as a quick snack?
Eheh... heh... I've thought a little on how to use gaming to the advantage of emotional affinity. I'm fairly certain you can't absorb emotions from other players online, via MMO or through LPs, if only because watching a scary movie doesn't give off emotions (stated by Abel more or less here: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1249.php), so its best to be present when gamers are doing their gaming thing.
For example, one of my 'Cubi OCs, Ruse Manil, is from a clan with an affinity for Frustration... Ruse owns a hobby shop and hosts fighting game tournaments weekly and feeds off of the frustration of the tournament participants. Of course you might get the occasional Rage player, the kind who gets aggressive to their controller and starts yelling and cursing... usually these types of players are kicked and banned quickly because it usually ends in property damage and scaring off other potential players. Also Ruse doesn't really like Rage... it's a bit too strong.
I guess if you want to cultivate anger or rage with technology, you might want to go with something that isn't so... hands-on or interactive? The Rom-Com plan is especially good because there's a good chance there's other people in the theater getting super angry and idiot characters and then you can feeed off of them too.
Another way I'd guess to get Rage by taking advantage of technology? Hang around Programmers, my god, I've never seen anyone get angrier at a computer screen than a person who realized they made a simple mistake while coding.
Wait.. waiiit.. Blondie is a girl?? :mowdizzy
I'm so very observant arent I...
Quote from: Anri on November 04, 2016, 08:41:13 PM
You know, now I am imagining that cubi from Taun's clan would feel very at home in internet cafes that have online gaming. Enough rage to feed twenty of them at once! (Though I'm sure the power of a source has nothing to do with how many can feed)
One of my Taun Cubi goes to internet cafes and uses her thought reading to find out what sites people are on, and troll them. She keeps a tab open with a comedy website just as an alibi if she starts laughing.
Quote from: Puyon on November 05, 2016, 12:33:33 AM
Another way I'd guess to get Rage by taking advantage of technology? Hang around Programmers, my god, I've never seen anyone get angrier at a computer screen than a person who realized they made a simple mistake while coding.
lolyep, we spent a month tracking defects that caused full crashes... all were caused by Some Genius forgetting to put semicolons on the end of statements.... hidden all over the place too :B not even the worst or most recent example, but such rage, wow
edit: naturally when I updated my site last night I DID THE EXACT SAME THING, broke the whole thing by missing a semicolon, gdi programming
Quote from: Puyon on November 05, 2016, 12:33:33 AM
I'm fairly certain you can't absorb emotions from other players online, via MMO or through LPs, if only because watching a scary movie doesn't give off emotions, so its best to be present when gamers are doing their gaming thing.
Another way I'd guess to get Rage by taking advantage of technology? Hang around Programmers, my god, I've never seen anyone get angrier at a computer screen than a person who realized they made a simple mistake while coding.
No, but you can get a job at an internet cafe. We have one local one that has a juice bar in the front of the store (they don't allow even a covered drink near the computers due to risk of spillage.) For someone like Illiath, working the juice bar and soaking up all the anger would be an ideal job.
As for the second thing I've quoted above? The source of the rage depends on if you're fixing someone else's work or not, as Merlin states. At my last programming job, there was one guy who quit to take another job all sneaky-like; when we went through his programming library, we found out that instead of designing his programs to ask for a date parameter (well, actually, a semester parameter, such as 998 (for fall semester 1999), he had hard-coded them. I suppose it's one way of ensuring job security, making sure the client has to come back to you every semester to have a program updated. Still, it was the source of a lot of rage for the guys that had to fix them.
And even if you're working on your own programs, when you're talking about thousands of lines of code, it's always possible to spend days tracking down a single missed semicolon (or a missed period; these were COBOL programs, and almost every line had to end with a period.) It is definitely the source of much stress. So is spending all day writing a program to generate a report that the client didn't know they needed, until the day AFTER they needed it (thus making it a rush job)... and when you get done, they tell you "it's just what we asked for, but not what we want." (*Cue rage noises*)
Quote from: MSpears on November 06, 2016, 08:34:20 PM
And even if you're working on your own programs, when you're talking about thousands of lines of code, it's always possible to spend days tracking down a single missed semicolon (or a missed period; these were COBOL programs, and almost every line had to end with a period.) It is definitely the source of much stress. So is spending all day writing a program to generate a report that the client didn't know they needed, until the day AFTER they needed it (thus making it a rush job)... and when you get done, they tell you "it's just what we asked for, but not what we want." (*Cue rage noises*)
And then you find out that everything was coded just fine, the reason it's not in production is somebody copied across the wrong version of the source code to prod :B
there's always something else too lol
Quote from: Puyon on November 05, 2016, 12:33:33 AM
Another way I'd guess to get Rage by taking advantage of technology? Hang around Programmers, my god, I've never seen anyone get angrier at a computer screen than a person who realized they made a simple mistake while coding.
There is a reason 'Heads You Lose' got quite nasty in chapter 6. Things were not going well at work.
"If I can't be happy, I don't see why my readers should..."
I'm getting this weird feeling that Taun wants Dan to date Illiath, to cement a clan alliance between Cyra and Taun. Dan will probably be freaking out in his head about what to tell his other girlfriend. :mowwink
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 07, 2016, 09:24:36 AM
I'm getting this weird feeling that Taun wants Dan to date Illiath, to cement a clan alliance between Cyra and Taun. Dan will probably be freaking out in his head about what to tell his other girlfriend. :mowwink
She might not care that much. 'Cubi are known to be a bit loose, and Matilda comes from a polygamous background anyway, AFAIK.
As for Dan pairing with a Taun, we don't know enough about the way clan leader power is divvied out to tell if the child would be born a Taun or a Cyra. In any case, the last time someone allied with Cyra, they were exterminated - Taun strikes me as being a bit too canny for something that direct. Besides, Dan is still rather an unknown quantity.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 07, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 07, 2016, 09:24:36 AM
I'm getting this weird feeling that Taun wants Dan to date Illiath, to cement a clan alliance between Cyra and Taun. Dan will probably be freaking out in his head about what to tell his other girlfriend. :mowwink
She might not care that much. 'Cubi are known to be a bit loose, and Matilda comes from a polygamous background anyway, AFAIK.
As for Dan pairing with a Taun, we don't know enough about the way clan leader power is divvied out to tell if the child would be born a Taun or a Cyra. In any case, the last time someone allied with Cyra, they were exterminated - Taun strikes me as being a bit too canny for something that direct. Besides, Dan is still rather an unknown quantity.
Okay. That makes sense I guess. But just curious here, do you see Dan and Illiath actually dating? And I think Matilda would be glad to be friends with Illiath. Also why is an image of Dan marrying both Matilda and Illiath popping in my head all of a sudden?
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 07, 2016, 11:07:49 AM
Okay. That makes sense I guess. But just curious here, do you see Dan and Illiath actually dating?
Personally, no. It's not impossible, but for the most part Illiath was written as a slightly dour, badass war-maiden type who makes war, not love.
It would also have to be retconned into her own stories, especially if she did end up with a child.
Quote from: Merlin on November 06, 2016, 11:17:01 PM
And then you find out that everything was coded just fine, the reason it's not in production is somebody copied across the wrong version of the source code to prod :B
there's always something else too lol
We were trusted enough to be able to put our own programs directly into production, so that was never the issue (fortunately).
I think another one of the main reasons for programmer rage is that most of us know the operating system inside and out. We expect the computer to do
what we tell it to do,
when we tell it to, and
how we tell it to. And there's a little arrogance in there, too;
because we know the operating system so well, we tend to forget that we sometimes do make mistakes.
So, when the computer doesn't do exactly what we tell it to do, we get mad at it... until we look back at the command history and find out that it's all our fault, at which point rage turns to embarrassment. (I like my humble pie with a hint of cinnamon, thanks.)
Or on the flip side when the computer does exactly what you told to but not what you wanted.
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 07, 2016, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 07, 2016, 11:07:49 AM
Okay. That makes sense I guess. But just curious here, do you see Dan and Illiath actually dating?
Personally, no. It's not impossible, but for the most part Illiath was written as a slightly dour, badass war-maiden type who makes war, not love.
It would also have to be retconned into her own stories, especially if she did end up with a child.
I see. Well not all relationships have to end up with a child being born. I do however see them becoming good friends. I guess since they just met anything is possible. Still they look like they would make a good couple.
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 07, 2016, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 07, 2016, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 07, 2016, 11:07:49 AM
Okay. That makes sense I guess. But just curious here, do you see Dan and Illiath actually dating?
Personally, no. It's not impossible, but for the most part Illiath was written as a slightly dour, badass war-maiden type who makes war, not love.
It would also have to be retconned into her own stories, especially if she did end up with a child.
I see. Well not all relationships have to end up with a child being born. I do however see them becoming good friends. I guess since they just met anything is possible. Still they look like they would make a good couple.
Adventure Bros
I cannot deny there is always a lil worry whenever someone's character shows up that I'm going to run their continuity into the dirt. I figured in Illiath's case, she's a bit younger than when she shows up in Tapewolf's storylines so she hasn't fully been serious business'd via her careers and the frustrations as is. :U
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 07, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
I cannot deny there is always a lil worry whenever someone's character shows up that I'm going to run their continuity into the dirt. I figured in Illiath's case, she's a bit younger than when she shows up in Tapewolf's storylines so she hasn't fully been serious business'd via her careers and the frustrations as is. :U
Also, a lot of that is a facade, since at that point she's dealing with young and unruly 'cubi students and wants them to keep in line. This does mean that I haven't put a vast amount of thought into her romantic inclinations because that's simply not been a factor in any of her stories thus far.
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 04, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
Bisexuals. Bisexuals for everyone! HAHAHAHAHAHA~
Actually in retrospect I probably should have checked where Illiath sits on the old Kinsey scale. :U
*sits back and basks in all the Dan/Illiath shipping that has begun* :B
Then it turns out Illiath has the hots for Hizel! (because dragons breathe fire, so it's 'hot'. Hee hee, I did a funny)
And then she betrays everyone and tons of characters die and the comic becomes one of those anime that suddenly turn all emo for no reason and piss all the fans off!
;)
Quote from: MSpears on November 07, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
So, when the computer doesn't do exactly what we tell it to do, we get mad at it... until we look back at the command history and find out that it's all our fault, at which point rage turns to embarrassment. (I like my humble pie with a hint of cinnamon, thanks.)
As Qwex1 says - the computer did exactly what you told it to; just not what you wanted it to. ;-]
Quote from: Alondro on November 07, 2016, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on November 04, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
Bisexuals. Bisexuals for everyone! HAHAHAHAHAHA~
Actually in retrospect I probably should have checked where Illiath sits on the old Kinsey scale. :U
*sits back and basks in all the Dan/Illiath shipping that has begun* :B
Then it turns out Illiath has the hots for Hizel! (because dragons breathe fire, so it's 'hot'. Hee hee, I did a funny)
And then she betrays everyone and tons of characters die and the comic becomes one of those anime that suddenly turn all emo for no reason and piss all the fans off!
;)
"Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"
Illiath set off exactly 0% of my female detection sensors. Yeah, this was a bit of a shock.
Quote from: DarkwingDude on November 11, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Illiath set off exactly 0% of my female detection sensors. Yeah, this was a bit of a shock.
How many did Jeremiah set off?
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Tilendor on November 04, 2016, 11:39:35 AM
So I totally missed that Illiath was female.... Maybe I'm just slow.
Contrary to popular belief, I do have female characters in my stories as well as male ones...
That said, you're not the first to say this. It seems likely that Taun clan members are fairly androgynous - recall that Jeremiah was thought to be female, and Quill isn't that well-endowed either.
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However, props to Amber for making armor that has realism and not just silly eye candy.
Indeed. The 'boob armour' thing has recently become a pet peeve of mine and I'm trying to ensure that Illie doesn't have that in future appearances.
Any particular reason you don't like boob armor?
To me it depends on the character. I have some who like boob armor and I have some who would hit me upside the head if I ever put them in boob armor.
But I'm just curious. One more thing I'm curious about: does Dan have his own school?
Put on some boob armor and whack it with with a dull sword and/or spear a few times, then you tell me what his problem with it is.
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 11, 2016, 06:11:08 PM
Any particular reason you don't like boob armor?
It's fine if it's purely decorative, but most of my characters which have been portrayed wearing them were supposed to be badass warrior types and that means they should be wearing something actually practical.
Basically, it creates new attack surfaces which don't even need to be there, given that the breasts will tend to conform to the shape of the armour. The cleavage provides a handy guide for a two-handed axe to follow, and as someone else on the forum recently mentioned, the fact that there's a division between the cups at all gives you a nice, sharp point which you can drive into the breastbone and kill the wearer, probably just by kicking them hard enough in the right place.
QuoteBut I'm just curious. One more thing I'm curious about: does Dan have his own school?
In Project Future? That I don't know. My story is set over a century after DMFA, partly to give some time for things to settle after the events in DMFA proper have happened, which look to be pretty world-shaking. From what Mab says to Rose in one of the foreshadowings, there is a nonzero chance that Dan will be killed. Abel is likewise caught between two very deadly threats so his future is uncertain. In any case, the best way to make a terrible fanfic is to start using the characters from the original story, so I avoid doing that as a rule. (And where I don't, I've been consulting Amber to try and make sure it's reasonably close to their personality)
TL;DR - it's not for me to decide what Dan gets up to after DMFA.
Quote from: PalmettoPaladin on November 11, 2016, 06:11:08 PM
Any particular reason you don't like boob armor?
To me it depends on the character. I have some who like boob armor and I have some who would hit me upside the head if I ever put them in boob armor.
Boob armor isn't practical. At all. In the 'cleavage' of boob armor, it creates a small pressure point. If you were to fall and your metal tiddies hit the ground, that's going to jab into your chest and probably crack your sternum. Additionally, chest armor is supposed to deflect blows away from your vitals like your heart. Your heart is in between those baps of steel, and when a sword is swinging at you or an arrow is coming your way, there's a good chance that the blows won't be deflected at all and instead will guide the attack straight towards the heart.
Some excuses made for boob armor so that character designers have a reason other than 'the honkers must be seen because my female character must be sexy', is that have room for the gazonkers would be more comfortable. That would be the case if you were practically naked under the armor, and if you're naked under armor, it's probably for seductive reasons so in that case, go ahead, have the rack out. But for battle... like, men don't just put a breast plate over a layer of clothing they have underneath. If the only thing you had protecting you from blades or arrows was a plate of metal and a thin layer of clothing, then you're going to freaking die. When you have armor on, you need to wear thick padding with ample room for movability. The padding acts as a shock absorber so you won't get the wind knocked out of you and also you will be less likely to be stabbed if an arrow pokes through there since you'll have layers of protection. When you put on all that padding, those puppies are gonna be compressed against the body (like if you were wearing chest binder, only probably far less comfortable) and the curvaceous figure of your lady character is going to be lost.
As a result, the difference between men's armor and women'd armor will be incredibly unnoticeable. Boob armor only exists to sexualize female characters because sometimes people are gross like that and demean their lady warriors to make them eye candy. And sometimes people don't realize they're doing it because boob armor is such a common thing that they don't understand what's wrong with it??
Of course, though, in Furrae you've got magic defense enchantments and shield spells. Boob armor could exist for aesthetic reasons and sometimes ladies might feel more badass and confident and sexy in that equipment. So... as long as the enchantments are assured to make the boob armor function like real armor, then I guess it's okay to use it?? ...boy golly, this got long, but I hope you catch my drift.
EDIT:: Oh my good golly gosh, I didn't notice Tape replied already. I just added an unnecessary wall of text here. My bad!!
The line down the middle gotta be convex to defect the blade insteada concave to guide it to your bones. So maybe if it was triple-boob armour, still not practical but a little less bad? lol
Quote from: Merlin on November 11, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
The line down the middle gotta be convex to defect the blade insteada concave to guide it to your bones. So maybe if it was triple-boob armour, still not practical but a little less bad? lol
nope because that still leaves gaps and depressions that cause issues.
a better design is just to use a normal chestplate and make it a bit thicker between the front and back to accommodate the (bound) female chest.
triple-boob armour?? impractical??
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