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Title: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 27, 2006, 09:40:24 PM
Yay!

... hey, are we now supposed to feel sorry for Devin?

(edited the subject to put the date first....)
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: bill on October 27, 2006, 09:41:51 PM
Woo! Sepia! :boogie
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 27, 2006, 09:51:33 PM
My mother smells the same...
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Faerie Alex on October 27, 2006, 09:58:10 PM
QuoteWoo! Sepia!
Well it is like 375 years ago. :mowdizzy

I believe that GabrielsThoughts said in another thread:
QuoteDevin probably had a horible childhood...
(Just expresses it well. Almost spot on.)
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Sid on October 27, 2006, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: modelincard on October 27, 2006, 09:58:10 PM
QuoteWoo! Sepia!
Well it is like 375 years ago. :mowdizzy

Actually, it's less than... 20 years ago. This is just Devin's childhood, told within Abel's youth...hood. Otherwise, the entire Abel's Story would have to be in Sepia ;)
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Faerie Alex on October 27, 2006, 10:26:40 PM
I was thinking color might have been invented between 375 and 400 years ago (relative to DMFA's normal storyline). Or maybe I should stop trying to think at 10:00 PM.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Sid on October 27, 2006, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: modelincard on October 27, 2006, 10:26:40 PM
I was thinking color might have been invented between 375 and 400 years ago (relative to DMFA's normal storyline). Or maybe I should stop trying to think at 10:00 PM.

Interesting argument... And it's 4.30am here, so I already stopped thinking :3
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on October 27, 2006, 10:32:17 PM
he's an orphan... oh the cliche', how tired art though.


:eager more, the devil is in the details.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 27, 2006, 10:56:46 PM
Well now, seems a few people called that one. Not me, though :B
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: JONJONAUG on October 27, 2006, 11:00:13 PM
Ah...an incubi father (note the headwing shadow).

Hm...could Abel and Devin be half-brothers, with Devin not inheriting incubi traits?
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 27, 2006, 11:04:36 PM
Interesting thought and theory there. I never have thought of it before. But it's the emotional side of Devin that needs to let out in the open.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Boog on October 27, 2006, 11:06:29 PM
Well, I called it. His excuse is that his own young life sucked, so ergo he'd be unkind to those around him. Cool sepia stuffs though.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:09:21 PM
Headwing shadow where? o.O
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 27, 2006, 11:11:00 PM
Maybe the sepia sets the mood for Devin and his agnst against everything in life.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 27, 2006, 11:11:30 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:09:21 PM
Headwing shadow where? o.O

Yeah what shadow...I dont see it..Might need your eyes checked Jon
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Toric on October 27, 2006, 11:12:41 PM
Those shadows could've been either ears or headwings. I wondered about that when I first saw the silhouette too. He didn't have any rear wings from what I could see though. The shadow behind his back is fairly obviously his tail.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:14:40 PM
I'm fairly certain the silhouette's Devin and those are his ears. :o
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 27, 2006, 11:25:21 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:14:40 PM
I'm fairly certain the silhouette's Devin and those are his ears. :o

Then you are refering that Devin is a Cubi. But never was a Cubi right?
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:38:53 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on October 27, 2006, 11:25:21 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:14:40 PM
I'm fairly certain the silhouette's Devin and those are his ears. :o

Then you are refering that Devin is a Cubi. But never was a Cubi right?

.....what.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: rt on October 27, 2006, 11:41:13 PM
Ahh yes nice 'brown fade back effect' of whatever fancy word you wish to call it.

I see ears with fluffy on the top in the shadow, and a tail with long hairs and a lion tail fluff on the end. Both like Devin has .. Maybe dad's ears are a bit more perky / stick up ears than Devin's (though was Devin's sad 'all is death' ears in past few comics it is a tricky comparison)
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Toric on October 27, 2006, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 27, 2006, 11:14:40 PM
I'm fairly certain the silhouette's Devin and those are his ears. :o
Oh, that would make sense. Devin does have those poofs at the tips of his ears. I'm just not used to them facing upward.

And SS, she's saying that the fluffy bumps above the head are ears, not headwings.

[Edit] Come to think of it, rt might be right, that could still be Devin's father. Along with the upright ears, the muzzle just seems too long, I thought Devin's snout was catlike, like Dan and Abel's.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: James StarRunner on October 27, 2006, 11:46:05 PM
Holy cow... Reading though this thread it seems like half of ya are confused out of your minds. Those that suggested they need sleep, please do so.

edit> It's just Devin's tail and ears that people are confusing as wings. That is all.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 27, 2006, 11:57:28 PM
:yeahthat I'm thinking the same.

Makes me wonder why his father left... Also makes me wonder if we'll ever find out.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on October 27, 2006, 11:59:36 PM
NO!  I've GOT IT.

Devin's Dad is really Fa'Lina.  Think about it.

You know it to be true.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Amber Williams on October 28, 2006, 12:01:49 AM
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on October 27, 2006, 11:59:36 PM
NO!  I've GOT IT.

Devin's Dad is really Fa'Lina.  Think about it.

You know it to be true.

STOP READING MY NOTES! :U
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 12:10:15 AM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 28, 2006, 12:01:49 AM
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on October 27, 2006, 11:59:36 PM
NO! I've GOT IT.

Devin's Dad is really Fa'Lina. Think about it.

You know it to be true.

STOP READING MY NOTES! :U

Yeah she gets enough getting her mind probe by freaking greys
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Supercheese on October 28, 2006, 12:12:38 AM
Is anyone else confused about that last sentence?

"She smelled of lilac... and the day she died."

It... doesn't make much sense to me. She smelled of the day she died?  :mowdizzy
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 28, 2006, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: Supercheese on October 28, 2006, 12:12:38 AM
Is anyone else confused about that last sentence?

"She smelled of lilac... and the day she died."

It... doesn't make much sense to me. She smelled of the day she died? :mowdizzy

I think it's a list of what he remembers, since he doesn't remember much.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Shakal on October 28, 2006, 12:41:47 AM
I concur that the silhouette is simply Devin. And yes, it's ears and tail, no wings.

right now, my current speculation IS going along the same lines of "Devin-Abel half brothers". If we take a look at what we know of Abel's clan, we know that it's gone at this point, and has been for a good long while. From this we may speculate that it was already dearly gone when Abel himself was born. If that were true, you could have had a situation of one of the last incubi of that clan searching for a way to have a child, to keep the clan alive. well, what options would he have to do this? We haven't seen a way in Furrae to create a child without the mother-father coupling. No artificial wombs, no 'make me a baby' spells, even Jyrras's creations are of different species, not a true 'child' in the way our hypothetical incubus needs. Thus, he'd need a female. A succubus would be out of the question, a clanless cubi would be in too great of danger of soul loss around another of his race to consumate a child, let alone raise it. The preferable mother would be of a more easily controlled, and less feared variety. IE, a being.

Thus far, I'm not bringing up anything that hasn't been brought up before, but consider HOW the incubus would go about finding a mother for his protegee. He'd want to stick around to ensure the child's safety, so a date rape or similar 'one night stand' won't work, he needs a long lasting relationship, preferably marriage, to keep things tied together. However, the incubus need only be emotionally attached to his child, so long as the mother is fooled enough to raise the young cubi well. Thus if the incubus could take over the life of someone ALREADY IN a marriage, and fool his 'wife' well enough that she never catch on, He gains the best and fastest beenfit.

Well, there's lots of folks out there that are male, married, and conveniently probably also looking for the incubus in question. Many adventurers fall into that group. So sometime when one that happens to be married and male comes to try to take him out, rather then kill the adventurer our hypothetical cubi instead traps him and studies him, until he thinks he can give a sufficiently good impersonation (remember, since cubi can listen in on surface feelings, it would be easy to keep suspicion down, as you simply alter what you're doing whenever you detect suspicion starting.

Again, most of this has already been brought up, but what I don't think has been asked yet... what happens if the incubus goes through the process, perfects his impersonation, proceeds with the plan... and then the child is born, but doesn't have wings. As far as we've seen, ALL cubi have wings. A lack of them would mean the child is a being, not a cubi, and thus worthless to the cubi. He'd then have to choose, should he start all over, or just plow ahead, only now only being able to invest half his resources, his wife only giving half of her attention, to the important child.

An incubus self centered enough to start this sort of plan would find the decision easy. Walk out the door, and try again with someone else's family.

I wouldn't by a long shot call this evidence, or a bullet proof theory. It hinges on a lot of speculations, specifically that Abel's clan was already near extinct at the time of Abel's Birth, and that one of the surviving members is dedicated to the continuation of the clan. But if those turn out to be true, then it would give a very good explanation for why Devin's father left as soon as he was able to give the newborn a good look. And it would lend more riddance to Cid being a cubi, which has always been my slant anyway. May would be too obvious.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Jim Halisstrad on October 28, 2006, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 28, 2006, 12:01:49 AM

STOP READING MY NOTES! :U

FINE!  YOU CAN JUST FIND ANOTHER CREEPY STALKER THEN!  :tantrum

On a side note didn't they use Lilac back in the RL darkages for... perfume I think.  I know it was used for something along those lines.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Cogidubnus on October 28, 2006, 12:44:57 AM
EDIT: Holy Crap Shakal and Jim Ninja'd  :mowdizzy

One look at him and walked out...hmm...

Perhaps little Devin showed far too little...resemblance, to his father? The red-filter flashback obscures what his father looks like, so one can't be sure, but...
It makes sense. As much sense as this comic makes, anyway.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Supercheese on October 28, 2006, 12:58:55 AM
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 28, 2006, 12:17:35 AM
I think it's a list of what he remembers, since he doesn't remember much.

Ah, yes, that's it! For some reason I completely misread that.  :B
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 28, 2006, 01:20:36 AM
Shakal might be onto something here... It reminds me of a book that I've long since forgotten the name of. But it's something along the lines of a king looking for a male heir but getting a girl instead. The Incubus wants a cubi to continue the clan, but gets a being instead. It really does make perfect sense.

And we might find out soon. *just read that Abel's story will likely get more updates next week* :eager
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: e_voyager on October 28, 2006, 01:25:59 AM
and so begin the jealousy explanation as Devin bear his wounds for able to understand. i don't think that these will ever heal still it proves that he has a heart even if it's a broken one.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Madmann135 on October 28, 2006, 01:42:17 AM
Well... what do you know.

By the way Devin's acting one could say that he's trying to reconsile with the pasy and make an attempt to become friends with Abel.  Though I didn't predict that Devin would tell Abel why he did what he did.




It's intresting when TV/Comic orphans talk about their parents.  They remember the intresting details like their smell or the look in their eyes at times.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: LigerJet on October 28, 2006, 02:39:45 AM
:O Some people really look so deeply into this... ...I'll put up the theory that his father was just a jerk.  The end. XD And watch as it's kicked to the curb.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 03:20:43 AM
Oh well soon or later someone is gonna give the poor blue cat a hug
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Nikki on October 28, 2006, 03:34:39 AM
Quote from: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 03:20:43 AM
Oh well soon or later someone is gonna give the poor blue cat a hug

i kinda feel like cuddling him ;;
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 28, 2006, 04:22:16 AM
Yeah, he doesn't seem like so much of an ass now :<
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Tapewolf on October 28, 2006, 04:56:09 AM
I think Shakal has it, myself.  The only problem I can see is how Devin would ever find out that it was the lack of wings which caused his father to leave, although it's possible that someone else who knew his father will tell him later.

I was going to add that his father wouldn't have lasted long in a village with wings or headwings, but this was mainly a thinko from the people who claimed they could see the father's wings in Devin's silhouette.  If Devin's father was a 'cubi, he's going to hide it, period.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: MT Hazard on October 28, 2006, 06:54:04 AM
There is a non cubi possible explanation that clicked pretty much straight away for me.

Devin's father left the day he was born and his mother would of died fairy young. So they both in different ways, abandoned him. Abel on the other hand was born with wings yet accepted and loved by both his parents unconditional, the even moved city for him. Imagine how Devin must feel about that, when he looked perfectly normal and one of his parents couldn't love him. He is jealous and holds and lot of hatred, Abels parents would love a freak but his own couldn't love him. Like Abel later on he drives people away to avoid being hurt. I see Devin as a glimpse of Abels future not a long lost relative.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Aridas on October 28, 2006, 07:07:12 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on October 28, 2006, 06:54:04 AM
he drives people away to avoid being hurt.
Yeah. My thoughts exactly. And just to address everyone who started that "gay for abel" crap...

*ahem* I TOLD YOU SO.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Netami on October 28, 2006, 07:31:36 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 28, 2006, 07:07:12 AM
And just to address everyone who started that "gay for abel" crap...

*ahem* I TOLD YOU SO.

Technically 4chan started it.  :)
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Aridas on October 28, 2006, 07:34:59 AM
I'm not talking about "gay for _____" I'm talking about everyone saying Devin had the hots for Abel and that was why he was all GRR I HAVE A SECRET, which 4chan DIDN'T start thank you very much...
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Magic on October 28, 2006, 07:40:25 AM
Quote from: DigitalMan on October 28, 2006, 04:22:16 AMHe doesn't seem like so much of an ass now.

This is a comic. After his little speech, he will still be an ass. It's for the funny.

And-- it was plausible to claim that either May or Cid is a succubus/incubus--

But now it's a little bit stretching it to say that Devin's dad is an incubus. First of all, the wings will always be prevalent. As we've recalled from Demonology, many of an incubus/succubus' features are tied to the use of magic and/or amassed power. "Degenerative mutation" is unheard of in magical races, as we already know that the magic itself causes the growth of extra limbs. Expounding on that logic, you can not 'hide' magic that is tied to the very essence of your existence, and of which you impart to your descendants. This lends the reason why incubus/succubus metamorphosis will never truly replicate true sex change, as the changes we make are solely on a superficial; and also the reason why you need permanent magic to change into the other sex.

In essence, it's not physically possible for Devin's dad to be an incubus and at the same time Devin is a being. No matter how good his impersonation of a being is.

Second, I'm sure you already know this as it has been already discussed. Whether or not you are a creature does not rely on genetics. The offspring of a being and a creature will always be a creature, as it is rooted in the latent magic that runs within the bodies of creatures, rather than the genetic code. This is what caught Daniel by surprise, remember? There is no half-breed incubus/succubus, at all.

I can therefore draw this conclusion from that; It is not possible for Devin to be Abel's brother, or half-brother for that matter.

Third, Devin couldn't be hiding his heritage either. Metamorphosis, although powered by the subconscious, is an acquired skill. You simply can't be caught doing while as you exit the womb as you barely have any semblance of coherent thought above basic functions for survival. (Hiding wings doesn't count as an innate survival instinct either, Daniel would have done the same if it were true.) Further cementing the argument that neither Devin nor his dad could be incubi.


Quote from: MT HazardThere is a non cubi possible explanation that clicked pretty much straight away for me.

Thank you. Non-cubi explanation. Finally.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Tapewolf on October 28, 2006, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: Ink on October 28, 2006, 07:40:25 AM
Second, I'm sure you already know this as it has been already discussed. Whether or not you are a creature does not rely on genetics. The offspring of a being and a creature will always be a creature, as it is rooted in the latent magic that runs within the bodies of creatures, rather than the genetic code. This is what caught Daniel by surprise, remember? There is no half-breed incubus/succubus, at all.

If so, what's Aary talking about in #501 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_501.php)?
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Sid on October 28, 2006, 08:17:54 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 28, 2006, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: Ink on October 28, 2006, 07:40:25 AM
Second, I'm sure you already know this as it has been already discussed. Whether or not you are a creature does not rely on genetics. The offspring of a being and a creature will always be a creature, as it is rooted in the latent magic that runs within the bodies of creatures, rather than the genetic code. This is what caught Daniel by surprise, remember? There is no half-breed incubus/succubus, at all.

If so, what's Aary talking about in #501 (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_501.php)?

Given that she's babbling about "half-breeds" (edit: of which Amber said they don't exist, I think) and stuff, I'd say that her speech falls under "making stuff up" :P

And even I (at X o'clock in the morning) had realized that the shadow does not have wings. O_o Sheesh. The recent ratio of completely weird and far-out guesses in Abel-threads is shocking me.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 08:28:09 AM
All I have to say is this... (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/It_looks_like_you27re_trying_to_bre.png) :shifty
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 28, 2006, 10:48:01 AM
Well shoot, that's no fun :c

So why the heck did his dad leave?
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Cogidubnus on October 28, 2006, 12:27:13 PM
Perhaps Devin's Mother got a little lonely while Devin's father was away? >:3
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Rafe on October 28, 2006, 12:30:53 PM
Because Amber's sepia colored marker was getting empty, and he knew that if he hung around too long, he'd be killed off too, just like Devin's mom. 
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Toric on October 28, 2006, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 28, 2006, 12:27:13 PM
Perhaps Devin's Mother got a little lonely while Devin's father was away? >:3

That's a possibility. Devin's Being mother "A"(let's say she's a goat) marries Being husband "B"(let's say he's an anthro dog). "A" has fling with Being father "C" of different species (anthro cat). Devin is born with cat traits that would not have appeared had he been the son of the husband. There have been human parallels in the film industry (Me, Myself, and Irene), so it wouldn't be so far off. The theory about his dad just being a jerk and leaving is just as plausible, though.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Tapewolf on October 28, 2006, 06:28:04 PM
I like Rafe's theory best.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Arcalane on October 28, 2006, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 28, 2006, 06:28:04 PM
I like Rafe's theory best.

Ditto. Sepia flashbacks are much more time consuming than normal flashbacks.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Amber Williams on October 28, 2006, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 08:28:09 AM
All I have to say is this... (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/It_looks_like_you27re_trying_to_bre.png) :shifty

Holy Snap. I think Zedd won the internets today. :O
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 06:53:56 PM
Quote from: Amber Panyko on October 28, 2006, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: Zedd on October 28, 2006, 08:28:09 AM
All I have to say is this... (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/It_looks_like_you27re_trying_to_bre.png) :shifty

Holy Snap. I think Zedd won the internets today. :O

Thanks Amber...You may keep it as a momento :)
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 28, 2006, 11:36:43 PM
OKay I was was one of them wrong on the Devin has the Hots for Abel. But the Sepia flashbacks is very interesting I have a feeling that maybe Devin Father is Abel Father. Look at the time line he saw the succubi and married her and Abel was Born. I think Abel Dad is also Devin's Dad but if i'm wrong here then I would apoligize to everybody.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Alondro on October 28, 2006, 11:46:27 PM
Devin is the legendary half-breed! *heh heh heh... evil mind at work*

*On the last episode(s) of DMFA-Z, after Abel is killed fighting the evil Fa'lina, who was trying to steal all sevel of the Dragon Gonads for herself to wish for the ultimate Tri-Wing Level, Devin's rage at the death of his friend causes him to reveal that he is in fact, the legendary half-breed cubi!  After both fighters spent the episode powering up, with a few scenes of some annoying blue-haired girl for no other reason than to show she's still there, they are now ready to fight!*

>:3
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 28, 2006, 11:49:54 PM
Quote from: Alondro on October 28, 2006, 11:46:27 PM
Devin is the legendary half-breed! *heh heh heh... evil mind at work*

*On the last episode(s) of DMFA-Z, after Abel is killed fighting the evil Fa'lina, who was trying to steal all sevel of the Dragon Gonads for herself to wish for the ultimate Tri-Wing Level, Devin's rage at the death of his friend causes him to reveal that he is in fact, the legendary half-breed cubi!  After both fighters spent the episode powering up, with a few scenes of some annoying blue-haired girl for no other reason than to show she's still there, they are now ready to fight!*

>:3

Hmmmmmmm are you sure you got the episode right is after they get their butts kicked and then train and power up?
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Cogidubnus on October 28, 2006, 11:52:00 PM
it's over nine-THOUUUSAAAAAAANNNNNDDDD!
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Alondro on October 29, 2006, 12:15:27 AM
*is very sure!*  Becoming the legendary half-breed cubi has nothing to do with training or skill or strength!  You just have to be really, really, REALLY constipated and strain hard enough!  Then the power just bursts right outa ya (along with something else... clean underwear anyone?)   :yuck
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 29, 2006, 12:22:03 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 29, 2006, 12:15:27 AM
*is very sure!*  Becoming the legendary half-breed cubi has nothing to do with training or skill or strength!  You just have to be really, really, REALLY constipated and strain hard enough!  Then the power just bursts right outa ya (along with something else... clean underwear anyone?)   :yuck

:erk :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha I love this thanks for making me smile today.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: DigitalMan on October 29, 2006, 12:39:42 AM
... Dood, seriously, we need the :lmao: and :rofl: emoticons from DA. That was just too hilarious.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: e_voyager on October 29, 2006, 04:19:30 AM
it was funny at that.. not too may thing reach me at 320 am you know
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 29, 2006, 05:13:32 AM
Quote from: Alondro on October 28, 2006, 11:46:27 PM
*On the last episode(s) of DMFA-Z, after Abel is killed fighting the evil Fa'lina, who was trying to steal all sevel of the Dragon Gonads for herself to wish for the ultimate Tri-Wing Level, Devin's rage at the death of his friend causes him to reveal that he is in fact, the legendary half-breed cubi!  After both fighters spent the episode powering up, with a few scenes of some annoying blue-haired girl for no other reason than to show she's still there, they are now ready to fight!*

Only a single episode powering up? Must be a small side-fight, with no real effect on the main storyline...

/sarcasm
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: komissarmakarov on October 29, 2006, 07:39:11 AM
Neon DMFA Evangelion.

Dan Ikari.

Mab Ayanami.

Wildy Langley.

Totally awesome. Yeah :mwaha
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: Zedd on October 29, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: Komissar Makarov on October 29, 2006, 07:39:11 AM
Neon DMFA Evangelion.

Dan Ikari.

Mab Ayanami.

Wildy Langley.

Totally awesome. Yeah :mwaha

*flicks his nose with a claw* Well thats the biggest Mary Sue idea I heard in awhile....Not to mention...Dan isnt that much a pussy whimp like him...Mab isnt that much of a mute....And lastly....Wildy isnt that much of a german glory hore......Wildy is more blalistic....
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Manawolf on October 29, 2006, 03:09:26 PM
Father leaving because of baby.  I'd like people to know I still had the idea as well before Amber used it (as such happenings do come up in my novel).
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Alondro on October 29, 2006, 06:41:48 PM
*Charles has had two funny posts in short order... and his brother is working every day!  Something is wrong in the universe...*   :erk    I suspect Dr. Ink.   :3
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 29, 2006, 09:46:46 PM
I like the power up friends. Ten thousand and still rising.  >:3 But I think Devins father is Abel father the one in the same.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: e_voyager on October 30, 2006, 04:15:33 AM
doubtful. not unless  Devin got almost no magic form dad but i believe inks statement. there are not half breads in mixed marriages,
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 30, 2006, 07:33:30 AM
I still don't understand how you people can speculate so far without even a BASE.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: komissarmakarov on October 30, 2006, 08:37:03 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 30, 2006, 07:33:30 AM
I still don't understand how you people can speculate so far without even a BASE.

We do have a BASE. They are all belong to us  :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: e_voyager on October 30, 2006, 01:59:12 PM
I've gotten to the point where i don't even bother to debate with him most times. he's simply out to try to annoy others by saying only my way is right until the author says otherwise. he misses that point that this is a place for the fans to guess about the comic and have fun. we are not paid to do this, we are not made to do this. this is something that we choose to do for our own reasons. that is all i have to say about his comment.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 30, 2006, 02:24:27 PM
That doesn't mean you can go saying things taht are downright stupid. Come on. There's a difference between speculation and pulling things out of your ass. You're supposed to make predictions based on what you can see or assume, not just make up some random crap and say "DUHH THIS COULD BE POSSIBLE", not saying that you act like that, but I'm a little miffed right now. Seriously. You can't just randomly spout things without a clue, all it does is confuse others. I've seen some really absurd things get passed around and all it does is make it harder to think about the comic. I kinda want to come into these topics just ONCE and see everyone making sense.

In other words, I want you two  (e and shiningshadow) in particular to at least TRY when speccing. Give us something good to think about. Oftentimes you don't.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: ninjannihilator on October 30, 2006, 04:11:11 PM
The very nature of speculation requires us to make stuff up. Since we don't have all the information but we still have some. We know his father left him, his mother died, and those have something to do with the reason Devin was a jerk to Abel. Where just putting one and two together plus some imaginary numbers along the way.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 30, 2006, 04:17:56 PM
well, your imaginary numbers are too high x.x
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Stygian on October 30, 2006, 04:24:02 PM
To me, you seem to be dividing by zero at places. Why does everything have to be driven by either sexual frustration or craziness?! It's lunacy! And not everything has to do with one's mother!

Freud: Shut up, you ignorant schweine!
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: ninjannihilator on October 30, 2006, 04:35:59 PM
^
:erk Wait are you calling Freud ignorant or is "he" calling you ignorant?
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Netami on October 30, 2006, 04:38:59 PM
The beauty of an open forum is the levels of speculation that occur when discussing the comic. And if you think about it, there's not much else to do. We know the past, we know the present, but speaking on the future and the unknown is much more appealing. Either as a game of competition or of suspense; to say that one person's claims are more or less ridiculous than the next is underestimating the power of the plot twist.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: e_voyager on October 30, 2006, 06:46:07 PM
That is true Netami. However if someone is always trying to shout down others that takes away part of the fun of the forum. While I prefer to settle things civilly or in private I was challenge and to repeat something I said.  The challenger claims to have support but I think that this, a private matter should stay a private matter.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 30, 2006, 07:04:21 PM
Maybe you should just... try not to exaggerate the situation and calm down?
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Alondro on October 30, 2006, 07:55:20 PM
*Charles hmms*  Note, as soon as Ink was mentioned as part of some conspiracy involving me actually thinking of something funny and directing world events (like my brother working every day... which is still scaring me) an arguement breaks out... almost as if Ink were invading minds, inciting strife to divert attention from his diabolical acts!  Well it didn't work, Ink!  I see through your sinisterality and cunninguinity!  You can't invade MY mind!

*Charline*  Of course not.  You'd first need a mind for him to invade.   :3

*Charles nods!*  That's right! ....  Wait, what?   :B
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Zedd on October 30, 2006, 08:50:24 PM
Maybe I should remind you something Charile and everyones...And with the picture made for Ambers... (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/HuskieBoi666/It_looks_like_you27re_trying_to_bre.png) :shifty
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: e_voyager on October 30, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
good one Zedd. do you mind if i  copy it for myself?
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Roureem Egas on October 30, 2006, 09:30:34 PM
...Hey! Where's the rotisserie chicken option?
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 30, 2006, 09:58:17 PM
Or the swedish fish?
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Teroniss on October 31, 2006, 12:49:52 AM
I find a problem with you explanation Ink, simply cuz it has a few holes that can be filled, and explains still the possibility of Devin and Abel being related. 1.) It could go back to the fact that May Rewanz may be the Cubi in Abel's family and that Cid had an affair with Devin's mother, and Devin inherited his coloring from her. 2.) We still havent seen what Devin looked like as a baby, and when his mother died, whoever adopted him may have been a Cubi, or a person fmailiar with Cubi and taught him how to hide his wings. 3.) I believed it was explained somewhere way back when that when a Creature breeds with a Being, the offspring while not a halfbreed, will end up being a Creature Or a Being and that the chances of it being a Creature are not 100%

(ahh, check that on number two, i looked closer and just noticed baby Devin. well that still leave 1 and 3)
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Roureem Egas on October 31, 2006, 12:59:06 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on October 31, 2006, 12:49:52 AM
I find a problem with you explanation Ink, simply cuz it has a few holes that can be filled, and explains still the possibility of Devin and Abel being related. 1.) It could go back to the fact that May Rewanz may be the Cubi in Abel's family and that Cid had an affair with Devin's mother, and Devin inherited his coloring from her. 2.) We still havent seen what Devin looked like as a baby, and when his mother died, whoever adopted him may have been a Cubi, or a person fmailiar with Cubi and taught him how to hide his wings. 3.) I believed it was explained somewhere way back when that when a Creature breeds with a Being, the offspring while not a halfbreed, will end up being a Creature Or a Being and that the chances of it being a Creature are not 100%

(ahh, check that on number two, i looked closer and just noticed baby Devin. well that still leave 1 and 3)

Quote from: Ink on October 30, 2006, 03:43:20 AM
Oh no-- not at all. I'm stating the obvious; That incubi are succubi are inherently magical, and that that trait replaces genetics in terms of deciding whether or not someone will be born as an/a incubus/succubus or not.

Being and a being will result in a being,
Creature and a creature will result in a creature,
And a being and a creature will always result in a creature.
[/b]

There goes your third theory.
Title: Re: Abel's Story, 2006-10-28
Post by: thetire on October 31, 2006, 02:00:06 AM
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on October 27, 2006, 11:59:36 PM
NO!  I've GOT IT.

Devin's Dad is really Fa'Lina.  Think about it.

You know it to be true.

it is!!!   :eager
I have proof that would be acceptable in some courts!!!  :U
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_Guest014.php


...but slightly more seriously, I would like to state for the record, that the cubi race are behind most wierd stuffs that happen, but not all of them.
Devon's dad is probably the inventor of sepia anyway...
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Psaakyrn on October 31, 2006, 02:08:01 AM
Of cause, Devin might have been deformed (like maybe overly stubby wings), which led to someone/thedoctor/hismom/someone deciding to amputate it entirely. :zombiekun2
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Zedd on October 31, 2006, 02:12:10 AM
Dont make me get hammer...
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: e_voyager on October 31, 2006, 02:27:07 AM
Hammer Zedd or McHammer?
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Zedd on October 31, 2006, 02:51:35 AM
The one hammer better to use...*summons the power of Dark Moon*
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Magic on October 31, 2006, 04:06:51 AM
Quote from: Roureem Egas on October 31, 2006, 12:59:06 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on October 31, 2006, 12:49:52 AM
I find a problem with you explanation Ink, simply cuz it has a few holes that can be filled, and explains still the possibility of Devin and Abel being related. 1.) It could go back to the fact that May Rewanz may be the Cubi in Abel's family and that Cid had an affair with Devin's mother, and Devin inherited his coloring from her. 2.) We still havent seen what Devin looked like as a baby, and when his mother died, whoever adopted him may have been a Cubi, or a person fmailiar with Cubi and taught him how to hide his wings. 3.) I believed it was explained somewhere way back when that when a Creature breeds with a Being, the offspring while not a halfbreed, will end up being a Creature Or a Being and that the chances of it being a Creature are not 100%

(ahh, check that on number two, i looked closer and just noticed baby Devin. well that still leave 1 and 3)

Quote from: Ink on October 30, 2006, 03:43:20 AM
Oh no-- not at all. I'm stating the obvious; That incubi are succubi are inherently magical, and that that trait replaces genetics in terms of deciding whether or not someone will be born as an/a incubus/succubus or not.

Being and a being will result in a being,
Creature and a creature will result in a creature,
And a being and a creature will always result in a creature.
[/b]

There goes your third theory.

I didn't want to repeat myself on that third one. But that point is an assertion, not a fact; there is no universal theory of magic to either prove or disprove it yet.

Anyway, the first theory is a possibility, I'd give you just that; Simply because it's difficult to tell what Devin's mother's eyecolour by the colouring from the current strip. It would have been too easy to discern the identities of both parents if the flashback was in full colour anyway.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on October 31, 2006, 04:24:54 AM
Quote from: Ink on October 31, 2006, 04:06:51 AM
It would have been too easy to discern the identities of both parents if the flashback was in full colour anyway.

Oooo. nicely done. :square
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: ShiningShadow on October 31, 2006, 07:27:09 AM
There's something in Devin that he didn't get killed as a baby. He's special what it is I don't know but as Abel story goes along we will find out in small pieces. It will add to the grand puzzle that Amber is showing us.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 31, 2006, 07:48:43 AM
Didn't Amber publically say that "being + creature = creature" was wrong? >.>
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Stygian on October 31, 2006, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 31, 2006, 07:48:43 AM
Didn't Amber publically say that "being + creature = creature" was wrong? >.>

Ehm, sorry. I beleive you are completely spacing out there. No hiding it.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 31, 2006, 01:09:50 PM
Then maybe you need to read more closely >_>
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Teroniss on October 31, 2006, 02:14:45 PM
Hah, so 2 of my Theories are possible then, booya Ink  :mwaha
j/k, love ya man  :hug
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: ninjannihilator on October 31, 2006, 03:02:05 PM
So with the new strip it seems that Devin is probably just jealous of Abel because Abel had loving parents and he didn't.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: Aridas on October 31, 2006, 04:14:17 PM
It could also be because it was an outlet, not necessarily that he was targeting him because of his family.
Title: Re: 2006-10-28: Abel's Story
Post by: ShiningShadow on November 02, 2006, 07:48:23 AM
I think he's being targeted because of his father is the same father that walked out on Devin and his mother.