Now, is it right to kill sentient spiders?
Edit: Looks like Abel really likes that book.
If only you want to be a crime to kiss one...
Abel has taste in reading material. So does that spider.
...I've got nothing. :/
Shakespider?
"Shall I compare thee to a summers day? Because, well, y'know, June 14th was rather nice, and, y'see..."
ha! Wildy fanservice right 'ere.
I really wish I could finish with my fanart now...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2007, 10:20:41 PM"Shall I compare thee to a summers day? Because, well, y'know, June 14th was rather nice, and, y'see..."
Abel's hair kinda looks like a flock of goats, moving down the slopes of Gilead.
Quote from: superluser on February 20, 2007, 10:14:50 PM
Edit: Looks like Abel really likes that book.
I bet you he's re reading page 472 and imagining he's in janus's place
Ohh and Shakespider... I like that
KoH, your comment under your avatar brings into mind a joke...
There's this bar, see, full of people, and this guy comes running in, looking distraught, and asks if anyone here owns the pit bull, tied to a post outside.
The big dude down the back, 6'6" if he's an inch, and 300lb, all muscle, stands up and comes forward. "Yeah, what's up?"
The first guy says, apologetically, "Well, I'm terribly sorry, but I think my chihuahua just killed it."
The big guy is stunned, and says "But.. but.. I raised that dog to be a vicious killer from a puppy."
The first guy says "Well, yes, that's all very well, but my dog is stuck in it's throat."
Quote from: thegayhare on February 20, 2007, 10:29:35 PMI bet you he's re reading page 472 and imagining he's in janus's place
Betcha he's not. If that's what he's reading, betcha he's in Jyrras' place...or imagining Janus in Jyrras' place. I have more than a little suspicion that Jyrras/Abel is not a comfortable image for Abel.
*ponders*
llearch, how does the Elemental Lord of Wind comment remind you of that joke?!
It doesnt seem related in the least......
Also Amber, on your upset tummy bit, I sympathize with you. I just got out of the hospital for a really bad stomach bug myself.
^ Whoops, nevermind, I thought you were replying to his signature. Hoo boy, im off my ball today *Goes back to laying down and taking more pain meds.*
I think he meant the throwing up hairballs part.
Now it looks like Jyrras has some competition.
-Nar
Oh, and in case nobody noticed - that's one -big- spider.
... what on earth has it been eating down there, since there was another one just as large that Fa'Lina splashed, and there's been multiple others down there... ??
If roaches, how big are -they- ?? I get this feeling Dan might respond just like Abel did - hit it till it stops moving...
I'm fighting off a bit of a bug myself, as well as a splitting headache (funbles for more ibuprofen)
The headache realy suchs cause it makes it hard to read my new books (un lun dun, and Iron council)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2007, 10:43:29 PM
Oh, and in case nobody noticed - that's one -big- spider.
... what on earth has it been eating down there
Unlucky realitives of the basement rats who wander into the wrong room? Left over pizza delivery boys? The basement rats poptarts(all those preservitives might mutate the little bugger)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2007, 10:43:29 PM
Oh, and in case nobody noticed - that's one -big- spider.
Everything is big down there. Remember the basement rats.
Abel has a girlfriend... uh boyfriend...uh admirer. :love1
With enough roaches, anything can grow... I suppose you haven't seen Australian ones?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 20, 2007, 10:43:29 PMOh, and in case nobody noticed - that's one -big- spider.
... what on earth has it been eating down there, since there was another one just as large that Fa'Lina splashed, and there's been multiple others down there... ??
Well, if that habitat is right for that species of spiders, you'd expect a sustainable population.
Quote from: thegayhare on February 20, 2007, 10:45:43 PMI'm fighting off a bit of a bug myself, as well as a splitting headache (funbles for more ibuprofen)
Unless your headache is related to inflammation, you'd be better off taking acetaminophen.
Quote from: King Of Hearts on February 20, 2007, 10:23:41 PM
ha! Wildy fanservice right 'ere.
I really wish I could finish with my fanart now...
Woot Wildy But hey, Is she still Kidnapped by her brother no less
Abel is just getting a fan club...Whether he wants one or not..
Amber Have some herb Tea and rest up dear.
:mowcookie
PBH
Quote from: Stygian on February 20, 2007, 10:57:02 PM
With enough roaches, anything can grow... I suppose you haven't seen Australian ones?
nope I haven't seen those one but I have seen the flying armies of japanese roaches...
there is sometihng eirrie about them If you bug bomb a house they will actualy march en mass across the stree to the next house
-hugs Amber-lady-
Abel here, showing his sophisticated side whilst being pestered by sentient cockroaches.
So that's the end of that arch
Quote from: thegayhare on February 20, 2007, 11:06:12 PMthere is sometihng eirrie about them If you bug bomb a house they will actualy march en mass across the stree to the next house
I'm not sure if these bugs could find any such eyrie. Lost Lake seems kind of isolated.
P.S. Pro forma mention of approval of reference to Devo.
P.P.S. Pro forma mention of disapproval of DEV2.0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnot_03IAbQ)
Old tales never see to get old specialy the great ones
Aw, we didn't get to see what the writing on Wildy's face looked like. :mowsad
I wonder if Able has Scent Appeal due to the other spider that got mashed in his hair?
This would be a perfect chance to bring in this character. (http://www.mabsland.com/Levicel.html)
:D
Dought it Jim...Two diffrent world and all that razzle tazzle
Quote from: superluser on February 20, 2007, 10:14:50 PM
Now, is it right to kill sentient spiders?
It is not right to kill
any spiders!
Such cute little critters! (http://www.nefkom.net/m_lehmeier/images/smileys/loves.gif). And often furry! Don't we all love furry things?
I never understood why people fear them so often...
I like spiders too. But well, the thing about phobias is that they're irrational. You won't be able to find a logical explanation.
Now, not everything that has fur on is necessarily good.
Quote from: Gabi on February 21, 2007, 05:47:40 AM
Now, not everything that has fur on is necessarily good.
Thinks of possible counter-examples...
...
thinks longer...
Ah, okay, I have to agree for tasmanian devils.
Wow. Okay, the third panel really makes me crack up laughing, not only because of what Abel's reading (I REALLY don't want to know what Abel's lower half looks like in that panel...okay, maybe I do) and his expression, but because of the freakin' huge spider and his dialogue. Good lord Amber. XD
So does this finally conclude this arc? Maybe the next one'll feature Regina, since Amber DID say that she would be making an appearance in one or two arcs (this was around the time she featured the Dan and Mab wallpaper war). If so, I can't wait to see for myself what Regina is like... somehow I'm getting she's going to be somewhat of a Tira (see Soul Calibur))-esque character.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Gabi on February 21, 2007, 05:47:40 AM
I like spiders too. But well, the thing about phobias is that they're irrational. You won't be able to find a logical explanation.
Thats not necessarily true, a significant portion of Phobias have a very good explanation to them.
Real Example: I have Hemophobia (Fear of Blood), I have this phobia because of a rather traumatic event that involved blood in the past.
Theoretical Examples: Having a Phobia of Dogs because you were attacked by one before. Having a fear of large bodies of water because you almost drowned once, etc...
So, although some Phobias are completely unfounded, a great deal of them aren't.
As for the comic: Even though Abel looks really freaked out, he is still freaking sexy in that panel. Course, when is there a time when Abel isn't sexy? And Dan in the first panel is a combination of "OMG BISHIE!!!" and "HOLY SHIT DAN's BEING MATURE!!!!"
Quote from: Tilvan the Storyweaver on February 21, 2007, 06:53:45 AMThats not necessarily true, a significant portion of Phobias have a very good explanation to them.
Real Example: I have Hemophobia (Fear of Blood), I have this phobia because of a rather traumatic event that involved blood in the past.
...
So, although some Phobias are completely unfounded, a great deal of them aren't.
Having a logical explanation is different from having an explanation at all. Of course there are often reasons for phobias (for example traumatic events) but they are rarely logical for having a trauma.
I have a great fear of heights. Not exactly a phobia, but close. I can cite a number of explanations how I came to this fear, but none of them are logical.
Besides, living where I do, I have yet to find anybody who has a deep fear of spiders who could give me a reason for it, be it logical or otherwise.
Back on-topic: Is this "compare thee to a summer day" a quote or something that I should know?
Dard, it's Shakespeare.
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date.
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimmed;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance, or nature's changing course untrimmed.
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st;
Nor shall death brag thou wand'rest in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou grow'st,
So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
Sonnet 18, as listed in the thread topic.
Heey! Abel is stealing my girlfriend!
And as for spiders being fuzzy and cute; yes I am! ;)
I like seeing Dan mature, Wildy anytime, and Abel being hit on by a spider...Just not my girlfriend! :cry
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on February 21, 2007, 01:14:39 AM
This would be a perfect chance to bring in this character. (http://www.mabsland.com/Levicel.html)
:D
Akisohida...Give up on that two timer.. Maybe you should try dating
this character above .. She's a little closer to your size., but maybe a little bigger. (mmmm I know I don't your size.) Well, you guys seem to be from the same planet, so you have that much going for you.
PBH
That's ok, PBH - the female of the species is more deadly than the male...
... and usually a little larger. I'm sure they'd get on like a house on fire.
(You know, screams, flames, people running away... :) )
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 21, 2007, 09:05:59 AM
(You know, screams, flames, people running away... :) )
Yea, But only when they are hungry do they give chase...
But really the spider on Abel's shoulder is what about 4 inch tall... The female's of Akisohida's kind are as bigger as a Clydesdale, and the Queen is bigger than that...So Akisohida is about the size a a quarter horse, if he is on the short side. A little big to have a girlfriend the size of a mouse. But beings and dragons make a go at romance....:love2 So, who am I to said anything?
PBH
Hmm, I'm afraid Shakespeare's work other than his plays never impressed me much. I haven't heard of the Sonnett 18.
But I guess I could have known to use a search engine...
Mmmm. Wildy fanservice. We approve.
Quote from: Evil.Iguana on February 21, 2007, 09:44:43 AM
Mmmm. Wildy fanservice. We approve.
Ditto. String bikinis and a well supportive bra (two clasps). Obviously going for practical rather than sechs-ee. Unfortunately, it's only from the back. I have to admire her anatomy, as her tail seems to flow from the small of her back, as opposed to being "stuck-on". Words cannot express how technically proficient that looks...
??? I was wanting to see what Biggs drew on her face, too.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on February 21, 2007, 08:59:57 AM
Quote from: Jim Halisstrad on February 21, 2007, 01:14:39 AM
This would be a perfect chance to bring in this character. (http://www.mabsland.com/Levicel.html)
:D
Akisohida...Give up on that two timer.. Maybe you should try dating this character above .. She's a little closer to your size., but maybe a little bigger. (mmmm I know I don't your size.) Well, you guys seem to be from the same planet, so you have that much going for you.
PBH
Keep in mind, I am horrid with humbers but the origonal concept of Aki had the bottom of his abdomen about 2 1/2 feet off the ground and his head is about six feet off the ground. Probably not in proportion but, again, I am 'teh suck' with numbers. :) I always picture Aki as large enough to give one grown fur or two childs rides but not overly huge. ^.^
Quote from: Bunnaroo on February 21, 2007, 10:00:29 AM
??? I was wanting to see what Biggs drew on her face, too.
... We may still do so. It depends on how well it comes off... :-)
Now my wonderful dreams of Wildy will be interrupted by Shakespearian Arachnid nightmares! Poor Abel, why can't he just understand that the spiders are his friends.
Huh... that would be a cool band name. Now we present: Shakespearian Arachnid Nightmares :ipod
Belive me...I know theres gonna be a punchline hit to this all...Just like when Spears gave herself a nice clean scalp :)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 21, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
... We may still do so. It depends on how well it comes off... :-)
Permanent markers will not come off IF she is using Soap and water only...
:mwaha
And Akisohida: Now, you have me trying to figure out just how tall and big your character is to Amber's characters and their height to everyone else.....mmm The queen look like 4 ft to 5 ft her thorax and her abdomen is 6ft in diameter, which puts her head at 8-10 ft off the ground. mmm..I will have to get back to you on this. .... Levicel is 2/3-3/4 the queen's height, but only 1/2 her size....
:mowdizzy
PBH
Quote from: iownpants on February 21, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
Now my wonderful dreams of Wildy will be interrupted by Shakespearian Arachnid nightmares! Poor Abel, why can't he just understand that the spiders are his friends.
Huh... that would be a cool band name. Now we present: Shakespearian Arachnid Nightmares :ipod
We raiseith the roof..four times at once! :kirby
Quote from: Bunnaroo on February 21, 2007, 10:00:29 AMQuote from: Evil.Iguana on February 21, 2007, 09:44:43 AMMmmm. Wildy fanservice. We approve.
Ditto. String bikinis and a well supportive bra (two clasps). Obviously going for practical rather than sechs-ee.
Er, is it just me, or does anyone else find that calling Wildy's appearance in the strip `fanservice' is a little creepy? I mean, she's just cleaning up in her bathroom, not stripping. I'm still trying to figure out the fanservice in 699 (thread (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1465.0)).
Next thing you know, you'll be commenting on the fanservice in 550 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_550.php). (That abbreviation is totally salacious)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 21, 2007, 11:35:21 AM... We may still do so. It depends on how well it comes off... :-)
``Here's the smell of the ink still. All the solvents
of Alexsi's inn will not restore this little face. Oh, oh, oh!''
She might be washing off all the hair that she just shaved.
(Edit: Zedd, you may have ninja'd me today, but I think I have you beat (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2042.msg83745#msg83745))
Quote from: superluser on February 21, 2007, 11:58:40 AM
Er, is it just me, or does anyone else find that calling Wildy's appearance in the strip `fanservice' is a little creepy? I mean, she's just cleaning up in her bathroom, not stripping.
By definition, "fanservice" is the showing of a character the fans want to see in a "provocative" way. The definition of "provocative" differs, but it could be as simple as a male character removing his shirt because it's covered with mud, or a female character getting doused with soda. I remember one joke in
A Doemain of Our Own where the artist makes a fanservice joke about Sue bending over to collect something from the floor. (All we could see was her hind end and tail on the bottom of the frame.)
Some of us furverts would find looking in on a certain ferret as she's cleaning up as fanservice, especially if we could see without the fear of losing portions of our anatomy.
Let me guess, Superluster, you never tried climbing a tree to peek in on someone in the bathroom? Made an attempt to sneak a peek inside the girl's locker room? "Accidentally" walked in on someone changing? (For those of you who think
I might have attempted any of the above, I'm not telling either way!)
Quote from: Bunnaroo on February 21, 2007, 01:01:16 PMBy definition, "fanservice" is the showing of a character the fans want to see in a "provocative" way. The definition of "provocative" differs, but it could be as simple as a male character removing his shirt because it's covered with mud, or a female character getting doused with soda. I remember one joke in A Doemain of Our Own where the artist makes a fanservice joke about Sue bending over to collect something from the floor. (All we could see was her hind end and tail on the bottom of the frame.)
The examples above (Ooh! My shirt is so dirty! I guess I have to take it off) are certainly fanservice. It's gratuitous beef/cheesecake which would not be expected to happen in the real world.
If I were scrubbing my face trying to get permanent marker out, I would certainly take off my shirt. If I were wearing pants that I wanted to wear outside later, I'd probably take those off, too. I just don't think that this is fanservice.
Quote from: Bunnaroo on February 21, 2007, 01:01:16 PMLet me guess, Superluster, you never tried climbing a tree to peek in on someone in the bathroom? Made an attempt to sneak a peek inside the girl's locker room? "Accidentally" walked in on someone changing? (For those of you who think I might have attempted any of the above, I'm not telling either way!)
Like I said, creepy (and I'll add voyeur).
Also, there is no `t' in superluser. (Per Luster?)
In comics and other visual media, Fanservice only counts if the fans see something...
Beefcake--Abel's panty (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_513.php) and Dan's nice Chest (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_519.php)
cheesecake-- Cubi01 (http://www.missmab.com/Demo/Cubi01.php) and this thread's comic (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_751.php)
But you may not think of a panties shots is Fan-service.
:mowhappy
PBH
Bam...Three words...Cut it out :) *Dave Coulier ref*
What
The example of Beefcake or cheesecake?
Really, This forum services all fans reguardless of species, race, gender, or sexual orientation, so long as it is within the rules of this forum....MMM
Okay, Pai gon, I'll stop. Back to the Shakespearian Spiders... Pls
PBH
*blushes* Its just thinking of Beefcakes me go think of Tim or nice sliced carved chizeled boys...*rubs a circle on the desk slowly with a finger*
[walks into the thread shirtless]
Alas, this is getting out of hand! Our wishes are truly farther to the thought, and I would very much wish some people here tongue-tied, that this progress away from mere banter and dissent.
True it is that Wildy hath removed her clothes, but it is but a back shot, with her decency still easily safe and assured by undergarments and towel. And if you should think this in any way to be indecent - why, be that as it may, the more fool you! In this I agree with Superluser, whole and fully.
As for prying and peeping, to that sort of folley and foul behaviour, I can only say that it is an eyesore upon this thread that you speak of it that way. And so, I bid you good riddance, sir.
[bows and walks out]
Awwwww... who doesn't love spiders? heck, when i'm doing the vacuuming I dust around the spiderwebs. They're among the only type of insecty (i.e. with six or more legs) thing which i respect (apart from dragonflys, ladybugs, walking sticks, and honeybees). I've got a large spider hanging over the foot of my bed. Spideracists.
But yeah, Wildy in a bra. I didn't know she wore them anymore. ;)
And that's onenice spider. It glows.
Abel's Mind: "17 6|_0\/\/5! 17'5 73|-| 3\/1|_!!!!" (It glows! it's evil!)
And that's all folks. the end of the arc. :<
\/\/|-|0'5 |\|3X7? :spidey
.....\/\/1|-DY'5 |-|07.
So, would this be the source of Abel's phobia or a side effect of it? Now that I look, his headwings do have a sort of spiderish quality to them. The batlike parts spines look sorta like spider legs, etc.
Well, I don't know about that.. but whose been teaching spiders to talk anyway, or read for that matter? Sure, culture will do anyone good, I think...of course it will not stop your evil side, but it gives you character.
:mowhappy
PBH
Quote from: Stygian on February 21, 2007, 03:55:14 PM
As for prying and peeping, to that sort of folley and foul behaviour, I can only say that it is an eyesore upon this thread that you speak of it that way. And so, I bid you good riddance, sir.
I'm confused. I was referring to the antics of certain young males, a rank of which I no longer qualify. Are you saying such prying and peeping is foul, or are you encouraging it?
It's just possible that my mind is a bit dirty, and needs to be washed...
Quote from: superluser on February 21, 2007, 01:36:11 PMAlso, there is no `t' in superluser. (Per Luster?)
Oops, I thought your name was a reference to brightly polished things. It must have been bad eyesight. Getting old, you know...
Quote from: Stygian on February 21, 2007, 03:55:14 PMTrue it is that Wildy hath removed her clothes, but it is but a back shot, with her decency still easily safe and assured by undergarments and towel. And if you should think this in any way to be indecent - why, be that as it may, the more fool you! In this I agree with Superluser, whole and fully.
:erk Are we in agreement? I think that's a sign of the apocalypse, or something. Quickly, what's something that we can disagree about?
Uh...(points) That's not iambic pentameter!
[zips back in]
I do not hold grudges, good sir. So stop that. And there is no need for rhyme. If the good Shakespeare did not always need it, then neither do I. I voice my opinion, and that is it, no matter what you and certain others may think...
Oh, and yes, I was saying that your mind is dirty, Bun.
Quote from: Stygian on February 21, 2007, 05:15:19 PMI do not hold grudges, good sir. So stop that. And there is no need for rhyme. If the good Shakespeare did not always need it, then neither do I. I voice my opinion, and that is it, no matter what you and certain others may think...
I don't hold grudges, but I have noticed that we very rarely agree.
And iambic pentameter (which the bulk of the bard's plays were written in) doesn't need to rhyme, just use iambs (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/iamb).
On the other hand, sonnets (of which Sonnet 18 is one) do need to rhyme. Gimme a minute, and I'll whip up a Shakespearian sonnet about this arc.
Edit: The problem has come along, and I have whipped it!
CHORUS
And so here ends the tale of love by rat
Among his friends now two have learned the truth
The first informed: the cow, and then the cat
The third, tread light, for Abel is uncouth.
Among his friends, the rat must choose by grace
Which of the features would be best to love
A butt that's really cute, a pretty face,
A friend whose mother watches from above.
And still for Jyrras is yet more danger
A racist friend, a bellicose bovine,
A frightened and belligerent stranger
All these must weigh against aspects sublime.
We wait with bated breath to our chagrin
This act is over; let the next begin!
[exit]
Edit: oh, right, with the rhyming...
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on February 21, 2007, 04:22:05 PM
Well, I don't know about that.. but whose been teaching spiders to talk anyway, or read for that matter? Sure, culture will do anyone good, I think...of course it will not stop your evil side, but it gives you character.
:mowhappy
PBH
Jy probably gave them sentience or else Abel is mind/thought reading the spider.
OOH! D:< Amber you tease! No, not about Wildy fanservice, I so wanted to see the marker marks.:<
Great, all this talk of arachnids and poetry and now I can't stop thinking of Little Miss Muffet. Awsome comic to end an arc.
...You will hate the pun but think that spider may be the wife of the one that was squished? That would make her a widow, yes? :P
A black one, yes. ;-)
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on February 21, 2007, 11:53:09 AM
Permanent markers will not come off IF she is using Soap and water only...
:mwaha
True, but that also depends if the marker only got on fur or if it got beyond it and to Wildy's skin. I think she'll be able to get it off, if for no other reason than her brother not wanting her back again for revenge.
Brilliant! Lovely poem, 'scuse me, sonnet superluser. How do you do that?
I think the marker will come off and already is. Look at the towel. It's got stains.
Quote from: Density D. on February 21, 2007, 08:47:59 PMBrilliant! Lovely poem, 'scuse me, sonnet superluser. How do you do that?
A sonnet is a poem, so you don't need to get all snooty and technical.
The Shakespearian sonnet is composed of 14 lines of iambic pentameter, with a rhyming pattern of ABAB CDCD EFEF GG. That's the basic concept.
As to how to do it, I'm not sure. It comes naturally to me, so it might be innate and not learned. Maybe when I get around to writing my story in the Tower of Art (which will be in a different verse), I'll do a brief explanation on how I work.
(it also helps to remember to rhyme all your stanzas. Funny, peril doesn't rhyme with stranger...)
Quote from: Density D. on February 21, 2007, 08:47:59 PMI think the marker will come off and already is. Look at the towel. It's got stains.
Good point. It may be more coloring the towel than cleaning her face, though. On the other hand, I've been able to get permanent marker off without any water or solvents. Just friction--and no, my skin was still intact afterward.
I love Abel's arachnophobia! :boogie
*Charline notes the link earlier to Levicel's page and peers curiously* Favorite color: red. Not unusual... Favorite food: Lio... :eek *runs away screaming*
*Alondro reads as well* What's gotten Charline so terrified? *peers at the favorite food* D:
*Charles thinks he shall have to order a certain commission from Amber once he has funds, in order to get back at his leonine tormentors* >:3
Quote from: Dard on February 21, 2007, 07:46:07 AM
Quote from: Tilvan the Storyweaver on February 21, 2007, 06:53:45 AMThats not necessarily true, a significant portion of Phobias have a very good explanation to them.
Real Example: I have Hemophobia (Fear of Blood), I have this phobia because of a rather traumatic event that involved blood in the past.
...
So, although some Phobias are completely unfounded, a great deal of them aren't.
Having a logical explanation is different from having an explanation at all. Of course there are often reasons for phobias (for example traumatic events) but they are rarely logical for having a trauma.
I have a great fear of heights. Not exactly a phobia, but close. I can cite a number of explanations how I came to this fear, but none of them are logical.
Besides, living where I do, I have yet to find anybody who has a deep fear of spiders who could give me a reason for it, be it logical or otherwise.
I have some authority on this subject. You see, while I find spiders, lizards, snakes and other such fear-mongers cute, I have one fear that borders on phobia. I'm terrified of bees. Or, more accurately, any onsect that buzzes and can sting. This isn't quite a phobia - I'm not so scared of them that I can't leave the house. But if one buzzes in my ear, or flies within six inches of me where I can see it, I scream and run. This fear, though, has a logical history and is somewhat rational - I was stung by a hornet when I was a kid, and besides, bee stings hurt and are mildly poisonous. Most people who are afraid of something they could kill very easily have a perfectly good reason (some spiders are poisonous, e.g.).
Quote from: ChessM on February 21, 2007, 09:37:49 PM
I love Abel's arachnophobia! :boogie
.. I wonder if one of the others is going to wander in, say hi to the spider, and wander out again as if nothing unusual happened.... :-)+)
Probably one of the basement rats. They're used to stuff like household pests attaining sentience and such. The life of a basement rat can be fraught with with danger, dodging mutant, twinkee-gorged creatures that were once old laundry or carefully negotiating arachnid politics.
... What? It could happen.
Quote from: PookiesUncle on February 20, 2007, 11:38:13 PM
I wonder if Able has Scent Appeal due to the other spider that got mashed in his hair?
'Twould explain why the spidey's waving his leg near Abel's hair.
Quote from: Dard on February 21, 2007, 04:52:18 AM
Quote from: superluser on February 20, 2007, 10:14:50 PM
Now, is it right to kill sentient spiders?
It is not right to kill any spiders!
Such cute little critters! (http://www.nefkom.net/m_lehmeier/images/smileys/loves.gif). And often furry! Don't we all love furry things?
I never understood why people fear them so often...
YES! Someone who agrees! Seriously, once, there was a spider hanging from the ceiling in CCD, and I saw it, and didn't freak in the slightest. The girls AROUND me, upon noticing my new arachnid friend, freaked out to the millionth power. And I just sat there like, "Leave him alone, he's cute!"
So nice to know I'm sane in some respects...
(omg unintended iambic pentameter. This thread is having effects on my vernacular.)
As to other stuff... lovely sonnet, Stygian. Adieu to all you folks.
Quote from: Alondro on February 21, 2007, 10:18:23 PM
*Charline notes the link earlier to Levicel's page and peers curiously* Favorite color: red. Not unusual... Favorite food: Lio... :eek *runs away screaming*
*Alondro reads as well* What's gotten Charline so terrified? *peers at the favorite food* D:
*Charles thinks he shall have to order a certain commission from Amber once he has funds, in order to get back at his leonine tormentors* >:3
Dangit! I'm trying to train Charline to stop fearing spiders and one has to go and ruin that.
*Chases after Charline* Oy! Get back here!
Amber makes the most interesting characters, no? :)
I am slowly getting over my arachniphobia. In the olden days, when I saw a spider I couldn't be anywhere near it. My parents would have to kill it (usually with a small wad of tissue). The one time I tried that, I missed and the spider jumped onto the tissue and crawled up onto my hand. I screamed so loud and whipped my hand so hard that I ended up spraining my wrist.
Nowadays, I still get uncomfortable around them, but I'll either leave them alone, or get a dixie cup, put it over them, slide a paper underneath, and release them outside.
But if I see a black widow, I am freaking the #@$! out.
And I know how you feel about bees / flying stinging insects. Though it's subdued somewhat after the time I was mowing the front lawn and didn't happen to notice that there was a small hole in the ground where a swarm of bees had made their nest. I drove straight over the hole and got stung three times. Again, I sprained my fingers from trying to swat them away, and I still (three years later) have a small red mark on my ankle where one managed to get through my sock. But afterwards, I went back out to examine the hole, and found that on the previous mower pass, I had come within two inches of the hole and they had left me alone. I was able to finish mowing by simply going around the hole, and another one that I noticed which contained a similar nest. It wasn't until that day that the phrase "they only sting you if they feel threatened" really hit home.
And I never really noticed, *shifts the discussion back on topic* just how much Dan and Abel look alike. I mean, there's always been the similarity, but it's really very obvious in this strip; same face, same color hair (on Abel's tips anyway).
Heh. There's the time my wife asked me to extract a spider (I'm of your bent, Azraelle - I dislike them, but will leave them alone) from the house.
I went to look at it, and got a bowl. If I'd got a cup, it wouldn't have fit in it...
Yeah, I appreciated being asked to deal with that one...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2007, 08:14:34 AM
Heh. There's the time my wife asked me to extract a spider (I'm of your bent, Azraelle - I dislike them, but will leave them alone) from the house.
I went to look at it, and got a bowl. If I'd got a cup, it wouldn't have fit in it...
Was that in NZ or the UK? I had one about five years ago that was too big for a cup once. It escaped behind a cupboard while I was trying to get the bowl. About two days later I turned around from my desk and it was standing there on the floor right behind me as though it was watching me. I did manage to get it that time.
UK, although I have seen one of similar size back in NZ.
The one over here was just a wolf spider. Fairly harmless, if alarming when you find it sharing your shower of a morning. The one back in NZ was a bright orang coloured abdomen, and flat to boot. That was one I wouldn't risk touching, mostly because I couldn't identify it at all...
Wow, and to think that I once saw a spider that was about 2 centimeters long and I thought it was really big for a spider.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2007, 11:02:45 AM
The one over here was just a wolf spider. Fairly harmless, if alarming when you find it sharing your shower of a morning.
We have wolf spiders over here. At night, I can hear these little howls during the summer...
I don't squish things unless I have a good reason to. This applies to all manner of creepy crawlies, but especially spiders. Spiders do me, and you, a great service by controlling the pests that are actually truly dangerous. I seem to be especially fond of predatory creatures in general, because their danger to humans tends to be exaggerated and the benefits they provide to us are frequently unsung. Of course, I have this view of the world from the safety of suburban Pennsylvania, a part of the earth that is ostensibly included the ranges of 1 poisonous snake, 1 poisonous spider, and 0 potentially dangerous large mammals or reptiles. I say ostensibly, because while theoretically we can have copperheads and the brown recluse, the former stays in the deep woods and the latter prefers far warmer climate. But that doesn't change the fact that, even in places where there are lots of potentially harmful critters, you're better off with them than with their prey. Arachnophobics need to ask themselves if they prefer a few spiders living harmlessly in the corner or mosquitoes and flies biting them and potentially spreading disease.
The spiders.
Heck, I knew someone who had a spider web just outside the back door of their flat, one year (at university)
He reckoned they used to catch flies, and flick them into the web, while they were smoking, to see what it did. Apparently at the start of the year, it used to run out right quick, and snatch up the flies and deal to them.
By the end of the year, it was significantly bigger, and used to wander out sluggishly, maybe, if it felt like it... :-)
Quote from: Evil.Iguana on February 22, 2007, 04:13:10 PM
I don't squish things unless I have a good reason to. This applies to all manner of creepy crawlies, but especially spiders. Spiders do me, and you, a great service by controlling the pests that are actually truly dangerous. I seem to be especially fond of predatory creatures in general, because their danger to humans tends to be exaggerated and the benefits they provide to us are frequently unsung. Of course, I have this view of the world from the safety of suburban Pennsylvania, a part of the earth that is ostensibly included the ranges of 1 poisonous snake, 1 poisonous spider, and 0 potentially dangerous large mammals or reptiles. I say ostensibly, because while theoretically we can have copperheads and the brown recluse, the former stays in the deep woods and the latter prefers far warmer climate. But that doesn't change the fact that, even in places where there are lots of potentially harmful critters, you're better off with them than with their prey. Arachnophobics need to ask themselves if they prefer a few spiders living harmlessly in the corner or mosquitoes and flies biting them and potentially spreading disease.
I'd agree but the spider sin my house play jokes. I was on my futon, watching TV, when a spider came down on a web string three inches infront of my face. I rolle doff my futon and was out the door in less than two seconds just from sheer surprise. The thign had all its legs (save the very back ones) spread wide as if to say 'SURPRISE!' when it dropped down and stops in front of my face. >.> Strangely, I am a MAJOR arachniphobe but I am also kind to small things. If it intrudes, I act, but if it stays away, I am fine.
that's a balance thing, I think. They have their hands spread out like that to balance them, and also to warn them of any oncoming objects they should watch out for...
I'll admit, it -does- look like they're saying "Gotcha! Surprise!" :-)
Quote from: Azraelle on February 22, 2007, 01:19:09 AM
And I never really noticed, *shifts the discussion back on topic* just how much Dan and Abel look alike. I mean, there's always been the similarity, but it's really very obvious in this strip; same face, same color hair (on Abel's tips anyway).
Ears seem rather different though. Positioning, for one thing.
I found anouther freind for Abel and Charline
http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Peganthyrus/a_beautiful_machine.jpg
I have no problems with spiders (unlike my mom, who is terrified of them).
Ditto centipedes (I kind of like house centipedes as the flutter along a floor like an animated feather).
Slugs on the other hand... I don't run in fear from them, but no way am I touching one! (Though sea slugs are another matter....)
The Auld Grump, they don't give me the heebie jeebies, they give me the squeamies.
With me spiders rats and mice and anything else will get squished by me. BUt with spiders sometimes I let them go and have them eat the waterbugs in my apartment.