When did Kria get huge, Zebra girl wings? And does anyone else think she was the one who was doing all the being-killing?
Oh guess you dont rember...Shes a demon mare for reason...
Trust me, I do too. And I gotta admit... I thought Abel would be a bit more outraged, or wanting to know why she was there in the first place, than, you know, just flabbergasted. I know that it hasn't really been verified yet that Kria may've been responsible for all the murdering, but for her to just be out there in the open during all that mayhem, and Abel... blaugh. Though, it must be a blessing for him to experience that massacre, and to see a friendly (?) face.
Though, I think I know what Kria's medallion is for now--time for more speculation from moi. Notice how Abel's backwings and headwings disappear when he holds the medallion. Well, I think that Kria's medallion actually HIDES her own wings, or demonic attributes for her, and that she's equipping it to Abel in order to prevent any more Adventurers from ambushing him.
Honestly though, I sort of hope Devin and Xander aren't immediately forgotten. Yes, I know they're dead, but surely they can't be deposited off in the garbage and so instantly abandoned by all the characters?
(EDIT: Oh yeah. And Kria's wings are the @$%&.)
~Keaton the Black Jackal
"It's dangerous to go alone. Take this."
>:3
And yes, I too am wondering where she got those wings as well... Is it a side effect of giving him the skull amulet? That means it works like a patch, right?
Cool. :3
*is still in fervent denial about Kria being the one to kill them all*
Actually, I had just figured the skull thing might've just been a symbol telling any other demons to back off... Heck, I wouldn't want to mess with Kria. But the wing thing is a definite point... Didn't even realize that at first.
(Oh, btw, am I the only one who thinks that Kria's wings are the kewlest thing EVER?)
It really does seem more like a mask - a hint to its function, perhaps. Notice the way the eyes changed colour...
http://its-dangerous-to-go-alone-take-this.ytmnd.com/ (http://its-dangerous-to-go-alone-take-this.ytmnd.com/)
Khria is creeping me out. Call it a hunch.
I vote Kria for the "Best Wings Thus Far Award". :3
I thought that skull kept her shirt on, personally.
Wow. One thing to say about this strip: Coolest. Wings. Ever.
It's also pretty cool, too, now we know what the amulet thingy is for. At least Abel's headwings are conveniently hidden. Now run, little cubus, run!
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on January 19, 2007, 09:35:41 PMCoolest. Wings. Ever.
Quoted for truth.
Well that solves the mystery of Kria being a wingless demon (or not, as we've found out). Now then, what of Lorenda?
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on January 19, 2007, 09:35:41 PMCoolest. Wings. Ever.
Quoted for truth.
Well that solves the mystery of Kria being a wingless demon (or not, as we've found out). Now then, what of Lorenda?
Lorenda not having wings could be just due to the fact that her father was a Being, and thus carried on more of his physical appearance in terms of lack of readily visible Demon characteristics (unlike her teeth and claws).
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on January 19, 2007, 09:35:41 PM
Wow. One thing to say about this strip: Coolest. Wings. Ever.
It's also pretty cool, too, now we know what the amulet thingy is for. At least Abel's headwings are conveniently hidden. Now run, little cubus, run!
And the backwings, too, it looks like.
Hehe. I hope when they show the full amulet, it matches Abel's eyes like it matches Kria's.
Hmm...the amulet does seem to be some sort of patch...but Jyrras won't be born for another 380 years or so. Must be magical, then.
QuoteWow. One thing to say about this strip: Coolest. Wings. Ever.
It's also pretty cool, too, now we know what the amulet thingy is for. At least Abel's headwings are conveniently hidden. Now run, little cubus, run!
Actually, I didn't notice that the first time through. (Why I enjoy the forum so much.)
aah, suppression talisman. its safe to guess that as long as he holds that thingy he wont be haveing any more....'accidents' when he gets excited. a youg guy has enough embarrasment with stuff popping up without adding wings on your head, glowy red eyes, and talking to people in their brains.
other places you can see theese, the comic 'girl genius' and the anime 'saiyuki'
QuoteIn order to go forward, you must first hold back
Now onto the mystery of why Kria doesn't have any horns...
Perhaps horns are a trait of male demons?
Nope they're not. Female demons have them too. Check out Regina. She's got horns, as has the demoness on the demonology demon page.
*Charles eep!* She can swoop in on her victims as well! No wonder Dan's adventuring group never found out she was the one doing all the murdering back when they met Aary. It leaves no tracks; just plop down on them, rip them to bits, and fly off again. ;)
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 09:58:43 PM
Nope they're not. Female demons have them too. Check out Regina. She's got horns, as has the demoness on the demonology demon page.
The only truly
logical conclusion is that they are all very good crossdressers :P
Quote from: Kasarn on January 19, 2007, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 09:58:43 PM
Nope they're not. Female demons have them too. Check out Regina. She's got horns, as has the demoness on the demonology demon page.
The only truly logical conclusion is that they are all very good crossdressers :P
Amber likes to draw her bishies quite frequently, but I don't think any of her characters are THAT bishie... yet.
1 ) Coolest wings EVER!
2 ) If the amulet WAS holding her top on, and she gave it to Abel..HOORAY! *Ducks*
3 ) I like how it changed eye color when it was put in Abels hand
4 ) I still refuse to think Kria was behind the killins. It she WAS teaching a class, keeping Abels headwings visible would keep the students from attacking him because they would know he is not a being. Hiding his headwings would be bad in that case.
The only reason I'm not completely sure it's Kria is because that'd be too obvious. She has no adversion to killing beings whatsoever.
I have little doubt that Kria could be involved in the killing of beings. I mean, there are the more evil members of the cast; Kria, Aaryanna, and others that have referenced themselves to being evil at least once or twice. While it was done in a lighthearted manner that doesn't change that they do evil things. Eventually they're going to be doing something to back that up.
Of course, if Kria is indeed one of the two that was involved in the attack on Glory and the others I'm curious as to who it was that Devin took out (that is if his Ice attack succeeded, which it did from the looks of things.)
within 5 minutes of her removal of the charm Kria's transformation to a winged wabbit eared philie went completely unnoticed by the people around her...
Quote from: Kenji on January 19, 2007, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: Kasarn on January 19, 2007, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 09:58:43 PM
Nope they're not. Female demons have them too. Check out Regina. She's got horns, as has the demoness on the demonology demon page.
The only truly logical conclusion is that they are all very good crossdressers :P
Amber likes to draw her bishies quite frequently, but I don't think any of her characters are THAT bishie... yet.
O RLY?
(http://www.mabsland.com/NABBA_Mikelo.jpg)
...hm. Guess you're right.
It -would- explain why the ice didn't kill her... if she was up there in the first place, there's no reason she couldn't leap out the back...
If it was Kria doing the killing, I mean...
Quote from: Caswin on January 19, 2007, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: Kenji on January 19, 2007, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: Kasarn on January 19, 2007, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 09:58:43 PM
Nope they're not. Female demons have them too. Check out Regina. She's got horns, as has the demoness on the demonology demon page.
The only truly logical conclusion is that they are all very good crossdressers :P
Amber likes to draw her bishies quite frequently, but I don't think any of her characters are THAT bishie... yet.
O RLY?
(http://www.mabsland.com/NABBA_Mikelo.jpg)
...hm. Guess you're right.
Nah, you can still tell he's male when he gets in skirts. :mikelo2
You know, the wings would explain how someone from the city could respond so fast to an alert from the tower. I'm still going on the theory that she's there as a response to that alert, seeing that she doesn't seem to be the type to use ranged attacks anyway.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 19, 2007, 10:24:25 PM
It -would- explain why the ice didn't kill her... if she was up there in the first place, there's no reason she couldn't leap out the back...
If it was Kria doing the killing, I mean...
That is, if she was the one targetted by the ice. She might be the one that Glory went after, in which case... R.I.P. Glory - chan, we hardly knew ye. I mean, seriously. Like, 4 pages.
Quote from: Akisohida on January 19, 2007, 10:11:57 PM
2 ) If the amulet WAS holding her top on, and she gave it to Abel..HOORAY! *Ducks*
:giggle :giggle
Definately still a bit speacheless with the .. what .. wings?!? ... definately awesome wings there!
I was wondering what was up with the Red-Green colour change on the skull thing. Good catch with the "they match with the person's eye colour". Always usefull when your magical talismon doesn't clash :)
Yes i have to admit that the wings surprised me. still i have to rate her at, at least an eight on the hotness scale.
I don't see any wings at all, except for Abel's.... o.O
Did I miss something?
...it almost makes you wonder how she knew the south path was "safe". :B
But admittedly, I do love the wings a lot...
Quote from: Goatmon on January 19, 2007, 10:42:36 PM
I don't see any wings at all, except for Abel's.... o.O
Did I miss something?
You did, apparently. You missed the newest strip. X3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 19, 2007, 09:26:17 PMWell, I think that Kria's medallion actually HIDES her own wings, or demonic attributes for her, and that she's equipping it to Abel in order to prevent any more Adventurers from ambushing him.
You've got a point there.
(Karma's still broken)
...Or maybe not.
Quote from: Akisohida on January 19, 2007, 10:11:57 PMIt she WAS teaching a class, keeping Abels headwings visible would keep the students from attacking him because they would know he is not a being. Hiding his headwings would be bad in that case.
Well, in that case, she'd be able to say, ``See that guy out there? Don't kill him.''
Back to the topic at hand, I think it's curious that she would give Abel a patch rather than just tell him to hide his wings. This must mean that either (A) she doesn't know what `cubi are, or (B) she knows that Abel is within his first few days of manifesting his incubus powers. There are surely other `cubi at Zinvth. That means that (A) is not likely, and Dan learned how to hide his wings with minimal effort within [however much time elapsed between 303 and 621], because someone else would have taught him that technique fairly quickly.
That means that Kria was probably watching Abel from before the attack and noticed the distinct lack of headwings before. And either she didn't recognize Abel until she got up close, or she's reaching new levels of evilness by killing Abel's companions, *who she knew were his friends and no threat to Abel*, and then pretending like it didn't happen to Abel's face.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 19, 2007, 10:24:25 PMif she was up there in the first place, there's no reason she couldn't leap out the back...
Well, just because you have wings doesn't mean that they're not vestigial.
Yes alot secrets behold in life....But bigger question is...http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=my-juice.jpg&category=Drinks&date=2005-08-02 Is this yours or mine?
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: Goatmon on January 19, 2007, 10:42:36 PM
I don't see any wings at all, except for Abel's.... o.O
Did I miss something?
You did, apparently. You missed the newest strip. X3
So I did. >_>;
Oh well, glad that's cleared up.
The wings are mucho smexy. o.o
About Kria being responsible or not:
She knows that the South path is empty, so I guess that she had been there recently. Glory's last pre-battle words were to head that way, too. I assume she told them that because their group just came that way... following the trail of the monster... *plays creepy music*
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 19, 2007, 09:26:17 PM
Though, I think I know what Kria's medallion is for now--time for more speculation from moi. Notice how Abel's backwings and headwings disappear when he holds the medallion. Well, I think that Kria's medallion actually HIDES her own wings, or demonic attributes for her, and that she's equipping it to Abel in order to prevent any more Adventurers from ambushing him.
Well observed, I totally missed the connection (and Abel's lack of wings)! *gives KBJ a cookie* Once again proving that I shouldn't read comics at 5am.
While considering to write a oneshot fanfic about Demons, I also planned that they're hiding their wings by means of magic, so today's comic didn't shock me too much. Kria's amulet being the magic equivalent of a patch
is interesting, though. Less the fact that she was using one (CJP kinda prepared me for their existence, if I recall correctly... Christ, I
really have to re-read and catch up with that story...), but rather her amulet actually being one.
Interesting how Amber finds ways of answering long-forgotten questions this way. :)
Oh, and Kria's wings are TOTALLY AWESOME AND SO FULL OF WIN.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 19, 2007, 09:26:17 PM
Honestly though, I sort of hope Devin and Xander aren't immediately forgotten. Yes, I know they're dead, but surely they can't be deposited off in the garbage and so instantly abandoned by all the characters?
At this rate... I fear for the worst. :/ Abel leaving the location of the fight pretty much means the end for them. Only chance basically is for him having a moment in the next strip, just before leaving.
I don't really think all DMFA demons are supposed to have horns. I know that the horns of the two previously mentioned demons are actually kinda part of the animal species they're representing, not necessarily that it's because they're demons.
Yeah. I first thought maybe she was a Cubi but she lacks the headwings so that's out.
Quote from: Goatmon on January 19, 2007, 11:26:02 PM
Yeah. I first thought maybe she was a Cubi but she lacks the headwings so that's out.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_618.php is a blunt, but effective reply to that ;)
But I think it's well-established that Kria's not a Cubi. That would be... odd...
Quote from: Sid on January 19, 2007, 11:30:02 PMhttp://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_618.php is a blunt, but effective reply to that ;)
Well, why would she need the bolo tie then?
Quote from: superluser on January 19, 2007, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: Sid on January 19, 2007, 11:30:02 PMhttp://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_618.php is a blunt, but effective reply to that ;)
Well, why would she need the bolo tie then?
I didn't say she is a Cubi. I just meant that lack of headwings is not exactly a good way to determine that somebody is not a Cubi. You know, because Cubi are shapeshifters.
About her needing the amulet in the first place - Azlan's cast page hinted at the open question why magic-using races need/use patches at all since they apparently have the potential to shapeshift anyway (Dragons and Cubi are proven to be able to, and Azlan's entry hints that the Fae can do so, too. Thus, the idea of Demons being able to shapeshift isn't
too absurd.). So that is a better question than you most likely thought. ;)
Quote from: superluser on January 19, 2007, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: Sid on January 19, 2007, 11:30:02 PMhttp://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_618.php is a blunt, but effective reply to that ;)
True, but there's no reason that there wouldn't be any CUbi out there, unaware of their heritage and thus are likely oblivious to their shapeshifting powers and such. If Aaryanna hadn't come to kill Dan way back he wouldn't have known. Fa'lina wouldn't have found out about him (and further educated him about what he is) either, were it not for her.
Dan only learned how to change some of his appearance without a patch recently. In any case, this just means Kria's a bit more unique than we originally thought.
Quote from: Goatmon on January 20, 2007, 12:04:55 AM
True, but there's no reason that there wouldn't be any CUbi out there, unaware of their heritage and thus are likely oblivious to their shapeshifting powers and such.
Of course not, and I'm not arguing about that. :P
However, Lorenda also told Jyrras that her mother is a demon-mare, and although we have seen the word "demon" being used for non-Demon races, I doubt that this is the case here. (I could of course be lazy and just point at Kria's cast page, but it's more fun to argument based on the comics. ;))
...come to think of it, I'm kinda losing track of who is arguing for or against what, so I'll just stop here before I start replying to (and disagreeing with) my own posts or something xD
QuoteIf Aaryanna hadn't come to kill Dan way back he wouldn't have known. Fa'lina wouldn't have found out about him (and further educated him about what he is) either, were it not for her.
He would've known when his headwings popped out. Additionally, Alexsi knew of his heritage, and Mab and Pyro would've realized what's going on. Getting to SAIA would have depended on Alexsi or Mab knowing of it. Either is possible.
In short....Read all pages before saying anything...
Quote from: Sid on January 19, 2007, 11:52:51 PMQuote from: superluser on January 19, 2007, 11:43:57 PMWell, why would she need the bolo tie then?
I didn't say she is a Cubi. I just meant that lack of headwings is not exactly a good way to determine that somebody is not a Cubi.
I didn't say that you thought that she was one of the `cubi. Just adding other reasons as to why she wouldn't be.
Quote from: Sid on January 19, 2007, 11:52:51 PM(Dragons and Cubi are proven to be able to, and Azlan's entry hints that the Fae can do so, too. Thus, the idea of Demons being able to shapeshift isn't too absurd.).
Well, dragons can shift from wyrm form to the anthro form, but aside from that, do we have any information on whether or not they can shift into any arbitrary form? Can they do it on a whim, or does it take training to master the Samurai Lincoln form?
Quote from: Sid on January 20, 2007, 12:17:02 AMGetting to SAIA would have depended on Alexsi or Mab knowing of it. Either is possible.
I had a theory about that once (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1774.msg72686#msg72686)...
Quote from: Gareeku on January 19, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on January 19, 2007, 09:35:41 PMCoolest. Wings. Ever.
Quoted for truth.
Well that solves the mystery of Kria being a wingless demon (or not, as we've found out). Now then, what of Lorenda?
She's still young. Maybe they haven't sprouted yet. A nice surprise for Jy one day. :mowwink
ooo she got nice wings I wanna hug them :mowmeep but I just know she would eat me like a cookie :mowcookie
Aw, he really was sweet back in the day. Asking 'What about you?' when he is as shaken as his is? That's very gentlemanly. Unless he just wanted her to come with him... :)
Quote from: Fex on January 20, 2007, 01:16:17 AMooo she got nice wings I wanna hug them
Hugging leathery wings is generally quite difficult. They're not rigid structures, and it's usually just a flap of skin over some bone. If you're not careful, you can tear the skin and then the wing is useless.
Two points that I've been meaning to make are the following:
(1) She couldn't have flown there. How would she have carried the amulet?
(2) Why is the *left* eye on the amulet green? Shouldn't that be the right eye?
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 01:44:24 AM
(1) She couldn't have flown there. How would she have carried the amulet?
Does the amulet make the wings cease to be or is it purely cosmetic, such as making anything more than the normal being frame invisible?
Quote from: Valynth on January 20, 2007, 01:50:53 AMQuote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 01:44:24 AM(1) She couldn't have flown there. How would she have carried the amulet?
Does the amulet make the wings cease to be or is it purely cosmetic, such as making anything more than the normal being frame invisible?
While we don't know for sure, my money's on the full transformation, like a patch. Otherwise, the wings might wind up hitting things. Would be great at parties... ``What? No, I didn't hit you. You all saw me; did I hit him?''
Heh. I didn't notice Abel's wings or the skull's eye color the first time, either.
I thought it was a cubi that took Kria's form - either because she knows who Abel is, or because she read his mind and knew he'd trust Kria. Which could make this the reason why Abel doesn't change his base form, right?
oh, come ON......I've seen this coming ever since we found out Kria was his freaking schoolteacher. of COURSE she's been doing the killings...she once introduced herself by killing a pizzaboy just so she could say hi to Lorenda. KRIA IS AN EVIL BITCH. Sparing Abel was a whim....I have no doubt that if he ever puts two and two together, realizes she is the one who killed Devin, and confronts her about it, she'll turn on him in an instant. Sadly, since this is all flashback, it doesn't look like she'll ever be brought to task.
*spits*
I miss the times when the good guys would actually FIGHT the bad guys....this shades of grey crap is getting aggrivating. and it isn't even a particularly light shade of grey either.
On the subject of magical patches, has anyone thought about Lorenda's earrings ?
"The earrings Lorenda has are the only memento she has of her father. They were a gift to Kria which were given to Lorenda when she turned five."
A patch in disguise?
In another strip she mentions sending Lorenda to a normal school so she'd blend, kind of hard to blend with giant wings.
Jyrras hasn't been born yet.
Why do you people assume patches exist?
Polymorphic magic and the ability to enchant them into objects has existed before the technology to make it effortless.
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 20, 2007, 05:00:07 AM
On the subject of magical patches, has anyone thought about Lorenda's earrings ?
This speculation has now been added to Lorenda's Wiki entry. (In fact it is currently the only information about her, the rest of the entry being a stub).
And yay for concealment charms :)
Thank you doctor and tape....I want to add Please tell them reason why she has wings cause shes the type of demon who has wings so if they keep bringing up..."Is she a cubi?!" thing again..Feel free to smack em around...And leave room for me okays sir?
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AMKRIA IS AN EVIL BITCH.
No kidding here.
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AM
Sparing Abel was a whim....
But I don't think so. Abel was her pupil. That's some responisibility to him. Killing off your pupils would be bad. But who cares about pizza boys?
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AMI have no doubt that if he ever puts two and two together, realizes she is the one who killed Devin, and confronts her about it, she'll turn on him in an instant.
No.
She would say "Of course I did it! Because I can! MUWAHAHAHA. :mwaha Now let's talk about your future. You know, there is a nice school that specializes in people like you. And you are really lucky today, I am good friends with the headmistress. Aren't you glad?"
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AMI miss the times when the good guys would actually FIGHT the bad guys....this shades of grey crap is getting aggrivating. and it isn't even a particularly light shade of grey either.
I don't!
This is exactly what makes all of this great.
Black and white is boring!
BTW, like the original poster suggested, here is a potential inspiration for today's strip (http://zebragirl.keenspot.com/d/20020809.html).
Quote from: superluser on January 19, 2007, 10:50:05 PM
Well, just because you have wings doesn't mean that they're not vestigial.
Indeed. However, we do have the strip of the weasel dude flying and I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that you could use them to glide or at least fall in a more controlled way.
(And kudos for Sid for remembering the charms in CJP - this news makes my job easier to keep it as DMFA-compatible as I can)
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AM
oh, come ON......I've seen this coming ever since we found out Kria was his freaking schoolteacher. of COURSE she's been doing the killings...she once introduced herself by killing a pizzaboy just so she could say hi to Lorenda. KRIA IS AN EVIL BITCH. Sparing Abel was a whim....I have no doubt that if he ever puts two and two together, realizes she is the one who killed Devin, and confronts her about it, she'll turn on him in an instant. Sadly, since this is all flashback, it doesn't look like she'll ever be brought to task.
*spits*
I miss the times when the good guys would actually FIGHT the bad guys....this shades of grey crap is getting aggrivating. and it isn't even a particularly light shade of grey either.
I assume you're a vegetarian, then? Because you sure as heck won't support killing animals, right?
Sorry, but Creatures are on top of the food chain (and the hierarchy of power), ABOVE Beings (at least at that time). Most Creatures live longer, have more abilities, are better at those abilities/skills, have more stamina, faster reflexes... and they are very well aware of that.
The classic Creature point of view is that Beings are simply not on the same level, just like I won't treat a farm pig or dog as my equal. Yeah, sure, it breathes, it thinks, but I'm not going to prod the supplier of my meat with genocide charges or anything simply because he killed a few thousand farm animals. It's not exactly nice to the poor animals, but this is the way things developed.
Your point of view reflects Jyrras' stance during his meeting with Kria. And Kria made it very clear what the Creatures think of that. Kria is evil by the standards of Beings because she occasionally kills Beings. By the classic Creature standard, she is perfectly normal.
Focusing on Kria in particular, she does have an issue with killing Beings, and it stresses her relationship with Lorenda (who tends to side more with Beings than with Creatures). It shows in the strips following the Pizza Delivery Guy incident. We also see there that Kria tries to be good and helpful (Gardener incident), but has some trouble in finding her place.
So I'd say that the Demon mindset is more to blame than Kria's personality (even though it doesn't exactly help).
About the "Good vs. Evil" gig... what would you call a bunch of adventurers raiding an elementary school in a Demon/Creature village? I mean... the Creatures would eventually grow up to be Evil (by the classic Being view)... so the adventurers are... the Good Guys? It's all a matter of perspective, and it makes things a lot more grey than you assume.
Quote from: Ink on January 20, 2007, 06:13:35 AM
Jyrras hasn't been born yet.
Why do you people assume patches exist?
Polymorphic magic and the ability to enchant them into objects has existed before the technology to make it effortless.
We (or at least I) use the term patch exactly for this sort of thing. Looks like a patch, works like a patch, buuuut in reality it's an "enchanted item with a polymorph spell". Sorry, but I stick to the shorter term that most people know, even if it's not technically accurate. :P
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AMoh, come ON......I've seen this coming ever since we found out Kria was his freaking schoolteacher.
Well, many other people have suggested this, but decided against it. It's not her style. Now it's pretty much certain that it is her, but it's still not her style (unless she's teaching creatures to hunt).
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 20, 2007, 05:00:07 AMOn the subject of magical patches, has anyone thought about Lorenda's earrings ?
"The earrings Lorenda has are the only memento she has of her father. They were a gift to Kria which were given to Lorenda when she turned five."
A patch in disguise?
I doubt it. At the very least, Jyrras would have found out about it by now. You don't wear earrings when you sleep, and Jyrras would have seen her before she put them in at some point. That doesn't mean that it didn't happen, but it would be an odd story to pass up.
It would also be odd for a being to have something to hide creature features. Note, ``The earrings Lorenda has are the only memento she has of her father. They were a gift to Kria which were given to Lorenda when she turned five.'' not ``The earrings Lorenda has were given to her when she turned five as a memento of her father.''
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 06:53:10 AMQuote from: superluser on January 19, 2007, 10:50:05 PMWell, just because you have wings doesn't mean that they're not vestigial.
Indeed. However, we do have the strip of the weasel dude flying and I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that you could use them to glide or at least fall in a more controlled way.
My point was more along the lines of ``It'd be even cooler if I knew how to fly with them (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_357.php)!''
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: MT Hazard on January 20, 2007, 05:00:07 AMOn the subject of magical patches, has anyone thought about Lorenda's earrings ?
"The earrings Lorenda has are the only memento she has of her father. They were a gift to Kria which were given to Lorenda when she turned five."
A patch in disguise?
I doubt it. At the very least, Jyrras would have found out about it by now. You don't wear earrings when you sleep, and Jyrras would have seen her before she put them in at some point. That doesn't mean that it didn't happen, but it would be an odd story to pass up.
True, but on the other hand, Lorenda designed the magical component of the patches, didn't she?
About the "Good vs. Evil" gig... what would you call a bunch of adventurers raiding an elementary school in a Demon/Creature village? I mean... the Creatures would eventually grow up to be Evil (by the classic Being view)... so the adventurers are... the Good Guys? It's all a matter of perspective, and it makes things a lot more grey than you assume.
Yes! Finally, someone who gets it. (I think.) If Kria did slaughter those people, she may have had perfectly good reasons for doing so, at least in her mind. Or they may simply be casualties of war.
I think it was Mab that helped with the patches. Referenced here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_261.php) and next strip.
Also I think that just because Dan didn't know how to fly that time doesn't mean he can't fly with them now.
Quote from: AndersW on January 20, 2007, 10:24:05 AM
I think it was Mab that helped with the patches. Referenced here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_261.php) and next strip.
Yes, that was my initial impression. Something else came along and changed it though. If only I could remember what...
We know that Lorenda didn't make the patches, but let's not forget that she didn't even know about their construction (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_242.php) until recently.
Of course, you don't necessarily need to know anything about their construction to use (or possibly even make) them. So this is not in any way conclusive, but it suggests that patches, or other magical shapeshifting fetishes are probably not something that Lorenda had much experience with before she met Jyrras.
If I were in her position I'd so be framing Abel for this stuff.
What better way to teach someone something about life after a bad day but to make it a whole lot worse?
Doesn't seem like she's going that route yet though...
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 10:59:01 AM
We know that Lorenda didn't make the patches, but let's not forget that she didn't even know about their construction (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_242.php) until recently.
THAT was it: "Thanks for helping me out, Lorenda". I took that to mean that she - a demon, and full of magic - designed the magical component and that Mab had gone to check them out in #261 after they had come up in conversation. Mab doing the design work makes a lot more sense, though.
QuoteOf course, you don't necessarily need to know anything about their construction to use (or possibly even make) them. So this is not in any way conclusive, but it suggests that patches, or other magical shapeshifting fetishes are probably not something that Lorenda had much experience with before she met Jyrras.
OTOH, hiding your wings to keep you from being vanquished in a school full of Beings would be useful, though. I was going to add that we've never seen Lorenda sleep (and thus take off her earrings), but Kria does seem to need sleep so I imagine her daughter does too.
Quote from: The DXM on January 20, 2007, 11:03:25 AMIf I were in her position I'd so be framing Abel for this stuff.
If the Creature Council ever found out about it, there would be hell to pay. Kill a being? Pay a fine. Evidence tampering, obstruction of justice, perjury? You only get out of jail time for that if you're an elected official.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 11:08:06 AMI was going to add that we've never seen Lorenda sleep (and thus take off her earrings), but Kria does seem to need sleep so I imagine her daughter does to.
Didn't we see her once drying her hair or something? You'd have to be pretty crazy to leave them in when you shower.
About the "Good vs. Evil" gig... what would you call a bunch of adventurers raiding an elementary school in a Demon/Creature village? I mean... the Creatures would eventually grow up to be Evil (by the classic Being view)... so the adventurers are... the Good Guys? It's all a matter of perspective, and it makes things a lot more grey than you assume.
Not really. it depends on exactly what they're TEACHING at said school, and what the staff/student body does in thier time off. I don't give a flying **** HOW nice Kria is to kids or how amusing she might be occasionally, she's still a mass murderer, and one who in EITHER timeline shows no particular signs of stopping. As for the kids...of course killing a bunch of innocent kids on suspicion of wha they MIGHT do is wrong...and guess what? Good Guys who do stuff like that are a bout as "good' as some SOB who convinces impressionable people it's "good" to blow up yourself and anyone who had the misfortune to take the wrong bus, just becasue they happen to be on "the other side" If a cop/adventurer/whoever kills someone becasue they're rampaginf through the community destroying lives, that's good. If they kill the kids too, becasue of what they MIGHT do, and they can't be bothered to take the time to educate/instruct the kids WHY what thier teacher was doing was wrong,that's EVIL. There's very little grey about it....the general public just seems to be too morally lazy to bother trying to make the distinction, so they just paint everything grey, try and try to pretend that black and white never existed in the first place...at least, until it's THIER turn to take the wrong bus.
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 12:45:29 PMshe's still a mass murderer
No, she's not.
She's a serial killer. Mass murderers kill a mass of people in one incident. Serial killers kill a few at a time over several incidents.
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 12:45:29 PMGood Guys who do stuff like that are a bout as "good' as some SOB who convinces impressionable people it's "good" to blow up yourself and anyone who had the misfortune to take the wrong bus
Oh good. Now we're onto the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. This will end well. And fast.
Oh my, quite the rant there. I'll try to keep international politics out of it...
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 12:45:29 PM
it depends on exactly what they're TEACHING at said school, and what the staff/student body does in thier time off.
It's an elementary school. I kinda doubt that they actually teach Lightning Strikes there. And you don't raid a school to get to a teacher.
QuoteI don't give a flying **** HOW nice Kria is to kids or how amusing she might be occasionally, she's still a mass murderer, and one who in EITHER timeline shows no particular signs of stopping.
I'd guess that this also applies to most adventurers, unless you ONLY focus on those who merely grab their sword when a Demon is going all "I shall now begin the Apocalyptic Ritual!". Beings view Creatures as inherently evil, so their inhibition will be low when it comes to killing. We just don't read of the Demon Gardener being slaughtered before the "hero" can enter the bad guy's mansion.
QuoteThere's very little grey about it....the general public just seems to be too morally lazy to bother trying to make the distinction, so they just paint everything grey, try and try to pretend that black and white never existed in the first place...at least, until it's THIER turn to take the wrong bus.
There is more than enough grey either way, but you get rid of some of it by forcing YOUR point of view onto everybody. The Creature races are almost ALL older than the Being races, if I'm not mistaken. Beings and their fancy laws are relatively new in the game, so why should Creatures bow to the law of a Being?
The point of view of the Creatures is completely valid and not TOO much different fromt he view of Beings or our society. The only thing that changed is scale, but you don't see it because you put Creatures and Beings onto the same level.
If we apply this to our world, we would simply say "Killing a living creature in an act of not-self-defense is murder", I'd face murder charges for accidentally running over a cat. Or a fly, to put it to an extreme level. Cattle farmers would be charged with pretty much genocide, I guess.
Of course, our world is not that simple. We keep animals as pets or kill them for food, resources or fun. We do it because we are stronger and more advanced. Nobody asked the animals about their point of view, we just do it, and we don't see these killings as an evil act.
Creatures are better, faster, and stronger. Their life span is measured in FACTORS of a Being lifespan. To them, Beings are more or less ambitious primates. No natural defenses, no widespread access to magic, no hyped abilities, no nothing. This is their point of view. Beings are little more than a by-product, and killing off a few of them is no big deal. Kria grew up with that mindset, and it only changed a while ago, thanks to Lorenda (and maybe Moira). By her race's standard, she is not evil. Just like the cattle farmer is not evil by our standard. Asking PETA might lead to different results, though... which again goes to show that it's all a matter of perspective. So you won't get far with that black/white approach unless you convince everybody to play by your rules.
And before you try: Other people tried that. Both fictional and non-fictional. From Star Wars to WW2, from DMFA to your crisis du jour, there will always be at least a second point of view that is equally valid to the degree yours is.
My Thoughts:
1. Poor Abel
2. Kria's wings are beautiful
3. Jy-Orange! :)
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 12:45:29 PMGood Guys who do stuff like that are a bout as "good' as some SOB who convinces impressionable people it's "good" to blow up yourself and anyone who had the misfortune to take the wrong bus
Oh good. Now we're onto the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. This will end well. And fast.
QUICK SOMEBODY BRING UP HITLER, TOO
Y'know, I wouldn't entirely be surprised if this ended up being booted into the Underground Mine, which is a big shame. I was rather enjoying all the friendly speculation.
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 20, 2007, 02:25:06 PM
Y'know, I wouldn't entirely be surprised if this ended up being booted into the Underground Mine, which is a big shame. I was rather enjoying all the friendly speculation.
This case is quite clean and isolated. My guess is that the posts about the tangent will just be branched out into the Mine,. leaving the main thread intact (though reduced in post number).
Just be careful. Thread reduction is dangerous as the the operation may cause it to become infected with ATP. That's Angry Troll Posts. It's a very serious matter.
Onto an actual topic that matters, however, I love how Kria's wings make her hair stand out all the much more. :bat
Quote from: Eibbor_N on January 20, 2007, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: chaotik on January 20, 2007, 12:45:29 PMGood Guys who do stuff like that are a bout as "good' as some SOB who convinces impressionable people it's "good" to blow up yourself and anyone who had the misfortune to take the wrong bus
Oh good. Now we're onto the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. This will end well. And fast.
QUICK SOMEBODY BRING UP HITLER, TOO
Trying o invoke Godwin's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_rule)? *smites with Quirk's Exception*
Quote from: Alan Garou on January 20, 2007, 02:02:17 PM
My Thoughts:
1. Poor Abel
2. Kria's wings are beautiful
3. Jy-Orange! :)
yay, I'm not the only one who noticed it :3
Since Jy is a scientist and inventor, would that make Orange-Jy a clockwork orange? >:3
Quote from: Kenji on January 20, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
Just be careful. Thread reduction is dangerous as the the operation may cause it to become infected with ATP. That's Angry Troll Posts. It's a very serious matter.
Would those Angry Troll Posts form Angry Troll Pustules? But more on topic, my opinion of Kria has dropped even lower than before.
[Desperately trying to get the thread back on topic...]
A-ha! I didn't find her drying her hair, but I did find Lorenda diving into a pool (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_109.php). No earrings. And no wings.
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 03:52:01 PM
A-ha! I didn't find her drying her hair, but I did find Lorenda diving into a pool (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_109.php). No earrings. And no wings.
Interesting. Also rather irritating. Do we have any other examples of wingless demons? I may have to reinstate that bit of the Wiki.
Of course Lorenda might be some strange Being-Demon hybrid just like Amber says can't happen (at least, not with 'cubi) >:3
I swear to God, Amber's pulse rises each time somebody talks about halfbreeds xD
And we don't really know enough Demons to be sure. Other than that, I really don't know (and I'm too lazy to dig out Amber's previous statements about halfbreeds right now, so I can't verify if winglessness is part of what the Being father can pass on - just like the species of the child, since Lorenda took after her father, species-wise).
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 04:01:12 PMDo we have any other examples of wingless demons? I may have to reinstate that bit of the Wiki.
I'm on it!
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 04:01:12 PMOf course Lorenda might be some strange Being-Demon hybrid just like Amber says can't happen (at least, not with 'cubi) >:3
To quote Amber:
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 19, 2006, 06:02:36 AMDemons/angels on the other hand...you can be half. You don't have such a startling transformation of powers and energies like a Cubi that make up your race. You can be primarily a being but with wings...or a normal-looking gal who has the ability to make her skin rock-hard. Lorenda is a half-breed in the sense she does not have the full epic scale of powers like her mom does who is a full-blooded demon.
Yay for zebra-wings!
Can't go wrong with stripes, you know. >:3
Nice subtle thing with the skull-bone-button. I didn't even notice that Abels wings vanished at first!
OK, time for speculation.
Abel will go ahead and leave. He'll then return shortly after to get something he forgot and will - by accident- watch Kria cleaning up the place/snacking. (off screen obviously, to go easy on the comics rating)
Poor Abel. >:3
Quote from: Tiger_T on January 20, 2007, 04:25:48 PM
OK, time for speculation.
Abel will go ahead and leave. He'll then return shortly after to get something he forgot and will - by accident- watch Kria cleaning up the place/snacking. (off screen obviously, to go easy on the comics rating)
That would make their inevitable meeting in the main comic... interesting to say the least. >:3
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 04:19:18 PM
I'm on it!
The 'find other examples' bit or the 'update the wiki' bit? Because that quote from Amber is
gold.
Quote from: Tiger_T on January 20, 2007, 04:25:48 PM
Abel will go ahead and leave. He'll then return shortly after to get something he forgot and will - by accident- watch Kria cleaning up the place/snacking. (off screen obviously, to go easy on the comics rating)
He has no possessions. What could he forget? Besides, when Kria says she'll be around to see him later, that's prophecy. She has the brooch in the mainline and Abel doesn't- Q.E.D.
That is a perfect opportunity for Abel, slightly recovered after the horrible things he's seen, or May, to ask what the heck Kria was doing there in the first place.
I was wondering whether Abel is going to somehow drop the brooch in Glory's sight, like the way the One Ring sometimes comes off your finger in
The Hobbit.
Oh yeah, about the green eyes thing - speaking as a programmer it probably wasn't designed for heterochromiacs, i.e. the author assumed both eyes were the same and only took the colour value from one of them :P
Kria is an Angel! Not and angel-race... but an Evangelion Angel! And Abel is all whiny like Shinji! Then Fa'lina will force him to pilot a Gryphon mech which has the cloned body of an Angel in and create Third Impact... which will give her Tri-wings! Third Impact=Tri-wings! Do you see!? DO YOU SEE!!! :erk
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 04:33:16 PMThe 'find other examples' bit or the 'update the wiki' bit? Because that quote from Amber is gold.
The ``find other examples'' bit. Alas, I don't think I can find any. The demon in the corridors at the Zinvth school had wings.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 04:33:16 PMHe has no possessions. What could he forget?[...] She has the brooch in the mainline and Abel doesn't- Q.E.D.
Unless he drops the brooch, sees her feasting while searching for it and runs off before picking it up.
Besides, I think that it would be much less traumatic to see Kria walking around eating the corpses than what I'm about to suggest. There's a certain bestial quality to that sort of thing. It's not like Kria's going to inscribe an octogram and light candles and pray to Dagon or something. It's going to be very primitive and prosaic.
You see an animal doing what it needs to do to survive. We don't get grossed out when we see vultures picking at the flesh of corpses on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. And while we do get grossed out watching Alive, we sympathize with those people.
On the other hand, if Abel goes home and Kria meets up with him, she's likely to start talking about eating a being's liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. That would be much more traumatizing, I think.
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 20, 2007, 04:33:16 PMOh yeah, about the green eyes thing - speaking as a programmer it probably wasn't designed for heterochromiacs, i.e. the author assumed both eyes were the same and only took the colour value from one of them :P
Maybe it takes the color of the creature's eyes. And maybe Abel's creature parent had green eyes...
...Otherwise, that's the sort of error that I usually see right before ``Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)''.
Quote from: Sid on January 20, 2007, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on January 20, 2007, 02:25:06 PM
Y'know, I wouldn't entirely be surprised if this ended up being booted into the Underground Mine, which is a big shame. I was rather enjoying all the friendly speculation.
This case is quite clean and isolated. My guess is that the posts about the tangent will just be branched out into the Mine,. leaving the main thread intact (though reduced in post number).
I'm in favour of a hands-off approach. If the conversation mentions something, so be it. If people get worked up about it, and then move on, that's fine.
It's only when people go on and on and on and on about something, round and round and round, and don't get anywhere, and don't STFU and let people get on with their chat, then we might be inclined to step in.
In this case, it was mentioned, it was responded to, both were, variously, -reasonably- polite, and the subject was left there. I see no reason to do anything with this. *shrug*
Quote from: Alondro on January 20, 2007, 04:57:28 PM
Kria is an Angel! Not and angel-race... but an Evangelion Angel! And Abel is all whiny like Shinji! Then Fa'lina will force him to pilot a Gryphon mech which has the cloned body of an Angel in and create Third Impact... which will give her Tri-wings! Third Impact=Tri-wings! Do you see!? DO YOU SEE!!! :erk
Whatever you're on, mail it to me. Just send a mess and I'll give you the destination and cash transfer.
I don't take Kria as the one to do anything that harmful or malicious at all, really. Not after having seen this arc. The wing question we should take to Amber, since I am curious as to whether if Cubi is the only race that has decent shapeshifting and masking abilities to start off with, and just how much expertise one would need in Furraean magic to be able to take on another shape, and to mask it reasonably well.
The dispute, I really don't care for. I figure I agree with Llearch. We're grown people. Let's act that.
And finally, I'm a bit annoyed at Llearch for his karma. What does a jerk have to do? Just awarding oneself like that... Are you testing the smiter, friend? Because it's no cheating, I hope... :shifty
Oh, it's definitely cheating.
But then, it boils down to cheating anyway, since most of what I had was handed to me in lump sums by the mods anyway. *shrug*
... Are you feeling under-appreciated, Styggy?
Theoretically, that would be overappreciated, if the karma system worked like it should. But that's too off topic a subject to continue on... Which is why I deserve some smiting for bringing such a useless thing up. >:3
*edited for Karma horror*
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I AM NOT GOOD!
....I'm confused. Nothing new, but still. Just when you thought all the winged characters had been presented...
Do all demons inherently have wings?
I shall answer this with a quote:
Quote from: ye olde book of Demonology
The wings of a demon will usually be batlike or leathery, and it isnt uncommon for them to have horns and claws.
I shall assume yes 'till I'm smited by the powers that be.
Not all demons, just the lucky ones. Others are not so gifted, usually due to their lowly status, but Kria would be of a relatively high rank among the demon race.
And of course, wings MUST be dependent on something such as status in the community, as opposed to say... oh... something like genetics.
DMFA ≠ D&D, or any other external sources.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on January 21, 2007, 05:13:37 AM
And of course, wings MUST be dependent on something such as status in the community, as opposed to say... oh... something like genetics.
DMFA ≠ D&D, or any other external sources.
Well, genetics can have a powerful influence on society.
Especially if genetics for wings is a sign of power in a society where the strong rule the weak.
Saying that wings create social status is, IMO, putting the cart before the horse.
http://www.missmab.com/Demo/demon.php
Generally, demons should have leather wings.
And may I request that we switch the immediate topic of discussion from genetics/society to something less dangerous?
Quote from: Ink on January 21, 2007, 05:58:56 AM
http://www.missmab.com/Demo/demon.php
Generally, demons should have leather wings.
And may I request that we switch the immediate topic of discussion from genetics/society to something less dangerous?
Sure whats on your mind sir?
Something that hasn't been touched much (I think): Will we ever see Kria's wings in the main comic? And what would Jyrras' reaction be?
...what would
Wildy's reaction be? After all, she has a minor obsession with wings ;)
Quote from: Zedd on January 21, 2007, 06:56:06 AM
Quote from: Ink on January 21, 2007, 05:58:56 AM
And may I request that we switch the immediate topic of discussion from genetics/society to something less dangerous?[/i]
Sure whats on your mind sir?
...do you really want to know? >:3 *shoves Zedd into the doctor's office* *locks the door*
Quote from: Sid on January 21, 2007, 07:27:09 AM
...what would Wildy's reaction be? After all, she has a minor obsession with wings ;)
Weeheehee! That's something to look forward to! :-)
Quote from: superluser on January 20, 2007, 05:20:44 PM
The ``find other examples'' bit. Alas, I don't think I can find any. The demon in the corridors at the Zinvth school had wings.
The demon in the corridors also had an identical amulet hanging from her belt (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_22.php). Just adds to the confusion of course.
When I saw that originally, I thought it had something to do with being a teacher.
Quote from: Moonfire on January 21, 2007, 10:10:28 AM
The demon in the corridors also had an identical amulet hanging from her belt (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_22.php). Just adds to the confusion of course.
Ooh, but the eyes are the wrong colour. Perhaps Kria's charm is disguised as something that was fashionable at the time?
Quote from: Moonfire on January 21, 2007, 10:10:28 AM
The demon in the corridors also had an identical amulet hanging from her belt (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_22.php). Just adds to the confusion of course.
When I saw that originally, I thought it had something to do with being a teacher.
Maybe it's their version of detention: Two hours of trapping the bad student's soul inside it... >:3
EDIT:
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 21, 2007, 10:17:39 AM
Ooh, but the eyes are the wrong colour. Perhaps Kria's charm is disguised as something that was fashionable at the time?
Quite likely and reasonable, but too straightforward and thus boring :P
Quote from: Zedd on January 21, 2007, 06:56:06 AM
Quote from: Ink on January 21, 2007, 05:58:56 AM
http://www.missmab.com/Demo/demon.php
Generally, demons should have leather wings.
And may I request that we switch the immediate topic of discussion from genetics/society to something less dangerous?
Sure whats on your mind sir?
You're asking what's on Dr. Ink's mind? He said to switch to something
less dangerous. :mowwink
With regards,
Ted
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 21, 2007, 10:17:39 AMOoh, but the eyes are the wrong colour. Perhaps Kria's charm is disguised as something that was fashionable at the time?
So she had a skull on her belt, which was the style at the time?
Note that A22's skull has a third eye in the forehead, which is the right color. Note also that we can't be sure if the other eyes are the right color or not. They have a slight reddish hue, but that's most likely from the JPEG compression.
Maybe she's not a demon, and this one *gives* her wings?
(Yes, yes. I see the Red Bull joke. Very funny.)
Quote from: superluser on January 21, 2007, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 21, 2007, 10:17:39 AMOoh, but the eyes are the wrong colour. Perhaps Kria's charm is disguised as something that was fashionable at the time?
So she had a skull on her belt, which was the style at the time?
Note that A22's skull has a third eye in the forehead, which is the right color. Note also that we can't be sure if the other eyes are the right color or not. They have a slight reddish hue, but that's most likely from the JPEG compression.
Maybe she's not a demon, and this one *gives* her wings?
(Yes, yes. I see the Red Bull joke. Very funny.)
:U you mean, red skull gives you wings?
Seriously, though, kria wasn't wearing that skull that had the third eye, it was another teacher, though she is wearing a similarly shaped, third-eye-less skull in A26... which is not, I note, the same design as the one she was recently wearing, and gave to Able... which means she either has two such magic skulls, or that Amber changed the design >:3
Or designs may simply very, while the item has the same effect as a protective charm. Also, note how the eyes changed color when it was passed to Abel.
BUt in any case Kria has wings when I saw that I said holy s***. But that amulet that releases her wings could be something of magic which is fashioned after her she's a Demon and very excellent in magic think about it.
Here's a thought.
The amulet and the wings are totally unconnected. She just decided to extract her wings just now, and it's entirely coincidental that they happened to be at the same time that she removed the amulet.
The amulet is simply a "hey, this is a kid from school, don't touch or the entire teacher body will hunt you down and make you wish you hadn't" type notice... Or a "don't look at me" type thing, making him effectively invisible...
'course, that doesn't explain Abel's wings (head or otherwise) but still...
I think Kria amulet is that very thing to hide her wings and sexy ones to boot *Woot* Anyway this is a magical amulet to hide those things and mak ethe other beings not notice these things.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 22, 2007, 12:34:56 PM
I think Kria amulet is that very thing to hide her wings and sexy ones to boot *Woot* Anyway this is a magical amulet to hide those things and mak ethe other beings not notice these things.
:erk
Quote from: gothtk14 on January 22, 2007, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: ShiningShadow on January 22, 2007, 12:34:56 PM
I think Kria amulet is that very thing to hide her wings and sexy ones to boot *Woot* Anyway this is a magical amulet to hide those things and mak ethe other beings not notice these things.
:erk
What?