Abel looks pretty numb there.
I wonder whether Aniz is still to be counted on to kill May, or whether Fa'lina could stop him? Would she do so in order to keep Abel from the mental torture of worrying about his mom? Or, would she rather have him believe it to keep him at SAIA?
I think that Fa'lina could stomp him into the ground and use his bones for a necklace. Whether she feels that the political situation among the cubi clans would allow her is another matter. Some people have surmised that May may have committed suicide. We'll probably find out next week. However, Aniz has apparently stirred up a lot of resentment towards all cubi. Returning home might even bring some of that resentment down upon May.
I'm more curious to see what will happen if May see's Abel again, if she'll welcome him back like a loving mother or give the whole "This is all your fault" reaction..
In due to the rant..I think I'll make a hundred dollar donation at the end of this month.
Speaking of Aniz, a while back, I realized something, which as far as I know, no one has mentioned yet:
Abel, in the DMFA timeline, is 399 years old. In Abel's Story, if I remember correctly, he's 24. That means the events in Abel's Story happened 375 years ago.
Aniz was banned from SAIA for 375 years.
Just thought I'd point that out.
Yeah, I noticed that. Makes you wonder where and what Aniz is up to right now... Abel's probably got a little half-sibling out there, and if Aniz tries anything again I can guess that Abel is going to have a few choice words with his father. Provided of course that Aniz is still alive.
Whatever may's fate is, Fa'lina seems pretty upset about the incident with Abel's mom.
Do most cubi even though most have a superiority complex to most other species. Have a respect to those who gave birth to them or to other cubi of the same clan, or do they just discard them as something of no further use.
Looks like Aniz just earned himself another beating, whether he knows it yet or not.
Quote from: Rafe on September 04, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
Speaking of Aniz, a while back, I realized something, which as far as I know, no one has mentioned yet:
Abel, in the DMFA timeline, is 399 years old. In Abel's Story, if I remember correctly, he's 24. That means the events in Abel's Story happened 375 years ago.
Aniz was banned from SAIA for 375 years.
Just thought I'd point that out.
Amber has made a great set-up, ne?
Abel got "I'm bored" look going for him.
If Abel does decide to come home will Abel want to have his emotions return to him as well. I mean it would difficult to talk to your own mother sounding like emotionless robot.
Yet it will be impossible to deal with her if things go horrible and another mental breakdown occur.
So many questions..
Quote from: Naldru on September 04, 2008, 09:56:55 PM
I think that Fa'lina could stomp him into the ground and use his bones for a necklace. Whether she feels that the political situation among the cubi clans would allow her is another matter. Some people have surmised that May may have committed suicide. We'll probably find out next week. However, Aniz has apparently stirred up a lot of resentment towards all cubi. Returning home might even bring some of that resentment down upon May.
I really doubt he'd allow May to do that; She's the lynch pin in his plan. Aniz obviously lacks any real parental skills and has no grasp on subtle authority. Fear (fear of his mother's death, in this case) is the only thing he seems to be using to keep Abel in line.
And that's Fa'lina for you1 When she says blunt she means it big time.
Quote from: Rafe on September 04, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
Speaking of Aniz, a while back, I realized something, which as far as I know, no one has mentioned yet:
That's come up. It gave the 'Edward is Aniz' theory something of a boost in some circles, since the timing is perfect for Dan to be his next attempt after Abel. If true, it could either mean that 350 years was enough brooding for it to sink into Aniz' skull that he did it all wrong, or that he was trying to do a textbook job to avoid Fa'Lina killing him. Alternatively, he could simply have got captured by Dragons before he could screw things up >:3
Even Fa'lina seems a little uncomfotable at Abel confirming the "Death to Parent" threat but then we know she has a real love of kids and given her clan situation it's probably something she can identify with. Aniz likely will pester May more though, "When you die of old age, I'll put flowers on your grave" he said a ways back.
This is of course forgetting Kira was gonna go there, whether she does or not is another matter but she may unintentionally help the situation if she does.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 04:21:36 AM
Quote from: Rafe on September 04, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
Speaking of Aniz, a while back, I realized something, which as far as I know, no one has mentioned yet:
That's come up. It gave the 'Edward is Aniz' theory something of a boost in some circles, since the timing is perfect for Dan to be his next attempt after Abel. If true, it could either mean that 350 years was enough brooding for it to sink into Aniz' skull that he did it all wrong, or that he was trying to do a textbook job to avoid Fa'Lina killing him. Alternatively, he could simply have got captured by Dragons before he could screw things up >:3
Huh. I missed that theory, but then again I wasn't even here when we learned about Aniz's "banishment" from SAIA (I came in at Ink's analysis of Abel, or somewhere about there). It's an interesting idea, certainly. Of course, if it is true, then Aniz is really due for an epic smackdown by BOTH of his sons. But then Dan is a member of Clan Cyra while Abel is a member of whatever clan he is... what happens when Cubi of two different clans breed? What do their kids end up being? And then Alexsi isn't a Cubi, so that throws that out the window...
Never mind, I see why I missed it. It just doesn't add up, unless I'm missing a piece.
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 04:27:58 AM
Of course, if it is true, then Aniz is really due for an epic smackdown by BOTH of his sons.
Abel, maybe. Dan doesn't seem to have a problem with Edward, though.
QuoteBut then Dan is a member of Clan Cyra while Abel is a member of whatever clan he is... what happens when Cubi of two different clans breed? What do their kids end up being?
The most powerful clan of the two. And Cyra is a powerful clan.
QuoteAnd then Alexsi isn't a Cubi, so that throws that out the window...
Never mind, I see why I missed it. It just doesn't add up, unless I'm missing a piece.
There are still some holes in it. Actually, there are still holes in Aniz being Abel's father too, but he is.
Anyway. The really interesting thing, thing which kicked it off is this.... Go through the archives. We don't have many pictures of Edward, but find the ones we do have - most of them are around 300. Apart from the physical resemblance to Aniz, see if you can find one clear shot of his left wrist, where the clan mark would be.
As for Alexsi, yes. If we take Fluffy literally, a Being-Cubi pairing isn't guaranteed to give you a 'Cubi.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 04:43:55 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 04:27:58 AM
Of course, if it is true, then Aniz is really due for an epic smackdown by BOTH of his sons.
Abel, maybe. Dan doesn't seem to have a problem with Edward, though.
If he finds out what Aniz/Edward did to Abel and his friend and mom, and then realizes that his own dad has been stringing him along this whole time... Aniz is dead. Dan may not use his Cubi powers to their fullest, but he's an adventurer and is perfectly willing to fight Aniz. And Dan's got all those wonderful friends who I'm betting would be a little pissed off to find out what Aniz/Edward did... and now I'm smiling at the mental image of Wildy beating the crud out of Aniz while he screams for mercy while everyone waits in line with a weapon of their choice. If this idea is true, then the last time Aniz pulled this trick he was attacking two inexperienced fighters and an old woman. This time... adventurers, Fae, angry ferrets, and inventor with a giant robo gryphon, Alexsi with a hammer... the list goes on. And from what I recall hearing, Aniz isn't even all that powerful of a Cubi, meaning this will be even more lovely. Of course, this is all dependent on the Aniz actually being Edward.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 04:43:55 AM
QuoteBut then Dan is a member of Clan Cyra while Abel is a member of whatever clan he is... what happens when Cubi of two different clans breed? What do their kids end up being?
The most powerful clan of the two. And Cyra is a powerful clan.
Okay, I can see that. In that case, why would Aniz breed with another clan if he wants to bolster his own clan's ranks, which is what it seems he's trying to do? I mean, Dan wouldn't be a member of Aniz's clan, he'd be a member of Destania's clan. Which complicates things somewhat... unless Aniz would be planning to gain powerful allies in other clans...
Still dependent on Aniz=Edward though.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 04:43:55 AM
QuoteAnd then Alexsi isn't a Cubi, so that throws that out the window...
Never mind, I see why I missed it. It just doesn't add up, unless I'm missing a piece.
There are still some holes in it. Actually, there are still holes in Aniz being Abel's father too, but he is.
Anyway. The really interesting thing, thing which kicked it off is this.... Go through the archives. We don't have many pictures of Edward, but find the ones we do have - most of them are around 300. Apart from the physical resemblance to Aniz, see if you can find one clear shot of his left wrist, where the clan mark would be.
To be fair, how many strips have we seen Edward in? Wasn't he in only five or so strips? *looks* Okay, three that I can find. Sure, the positioning is bad so we never see his left wrist, and the one time we get a clear shot of his wrist he's wearing a bracer (which looks like it's a part of a set of jewelry, to be honest - look at the baubles in his hair), but I find it a little hard to believe that Destania - a powerful Cubi who was a member of a powerful clan and seemed to hold some measure of influence in Cubi circles and who taught at a school where she had Abel as a student - would not at the very least recognize a Cubi clan marking on the few occasions his wrist was bare in those few strips. May is excusable: she didn't seem to know anything about Cubi, so she wouldn't know about the clan markings and if "Cid" ever took his bands off he could just excuse it as a tattoo (she even thought Abel's was a tattoo when she first saw it). But Destania would have probably gotten curious at some point and figured it out (she seems too smart to have not done so), so him passing it off as a tattoo wouldn't have worked.
Oh, I'm getting a headache from all of this.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 04:43:55 AM
As for Alexsi, yes. If we take Fluffy literally, a Being-Cubi pairing isn't guaranteed to give you a 'Cubi.
Or Aniz could have killed the real Edward shortly before the wedding... or even just after it if he played his cards right...
It's two AM... what am I still doing awake? Though that probably explains why nothing of what I've been writing seems to fit together right in my head...
Still, all of this has given me a lot to think about. And I'll probably dream of Cubi and shapeshifters and half-siblings and epic beatdowns all night long... sounds like fun.
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 05:02:28 AM
Okay, I can see that. In that case, why would Aniz breed with another clan if he wants to bolster his own clan's ranks, which is what it seems he's trying to do?
That's a good point. On the other hand, if he really did fall for Destania, he might have put that project behind him. Or maybe he just didn't know.
QuoteI find it a little hard to believe that Destania - a powerful Cubi who was a member of a powerful clan and seemed to hold some measure of influence in Cubi circles and who taught at a school where she had Abel as a student - would not at the very least recognize a Cubi clan marking on the few occasions his wrist was bare in those few strips.
I'll have to compile the whole theory at some point and stick it as speculation in the wiki. But in a nutshell, if she realised that he was a 'Cubi it might explain why she didn't kill him.
Then again, someone recently theorised that she knew full well who he was, and the 'by my laws' bit was about killing
him specifically as some kind of clan rivalry. The downside with that is it makes her not killing him even more mysterious, and solving that problem was one of the neat parts of the theory.
Anyway, it's certainly not proven, but if it is true, it has the potential to explain a hell of a lot of things which currently don't make sense.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 05:14:06 AM
QuoteI find it a little hard to believe that Destania - a powerful Cubi who was a member of a powerful clan and seemed to hold some measure of influence in Cubi circles and who taught at a school where she had Abel as a student - would not at the very least recognize a Cubi clan marking on the few occasions his wrist was bare in those few strips.
I'll have to compile the whole theory at some point and stick it as speculation in the wiki. But in a nutshell, if she realised that he was a 'Cubi it might explain why she didn't kill him.
Then again, someone recently theorised that she knew full well who he was, and the 'by my laws' bit was about killing him specifically as some kind of clan rivalry. The downside with that is it makes her not killing him even more mysterious, and solving that problem was one of the neat parts of the theory.
Anyway, it's certainly not proven, but if it is true, it has the potential to explain a hell of a lot of things which currently don't make sense.
Maybe she held off on killing him as a part of some plot to get Dan fully on her side, rather than him having divided loyalties between his parents. I can't figure out how she would do that, or why she would currently care about him given that Edward is currently imprisoned by the Dragons, but that's all I've got. Maybe she wants to bring Abel (with his significant appearance and whatnot) into her clan - I don't recall, can Cubi change clans? Maybe that's what Destania's trying to do: strength her clan even further, making it more powerful than it already is, though what that could accomplish (aside from giving them a bigger stick) is out of the reach of my sleep-deprived mind.
Darn it all, but this is fascinating!
It shows the talent of a good plot writer to cause such theories ;)
If Aniz did kill Edward it seems to me like Dee would (to some extent)be able to tell, if it was right after the wedding, 'cuz she's had about 7000 years of experience (give or take) by that time, And Aniz would be what, less than 1000? Might not make sense but that's just what im thinking.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 04:43:55 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 04:27:58 AM
Of course, if it is true, then Aniz is really due for an epic smackdown by BOTH of his sons.
Abel, maybe. Dan doesn't seem to have a problem with Edward, though.
QuoteBut then Dan is a member of Clan Cyra while Abel is a member of whatever clan he is... what happens when Cubi of two different clans breed? What do their kids end up being?
The most powerful clan of the two. And Cyra is a powerful clan.
QuoteAnd then Alexsi isn't a Cubi, so that throws that out the window...
Never mind, I see why I missed it. It just doesn't add up, unless I'm missing a piece.
There are still some holes in it. Actually, there are still holes in Aniz being Abel's father too, but he is.
Anyway. The really interesting thing, thing which kicked it off is this.... Go through the archives. We don't have many pictures of Edward, but find the ones we do have - most of them are around 300. Apart from the physical resemblance to Aniz, see if you can find one clear shot of his left wrist, where the clan mark would be.
As for Alexsi, yes. If we take Fluffy literally, a Being-Cubi pairing isn't guaranteed to give you a 'Cubi.
Agreed, cuz from what i can tell Alexsi is pretty powerful considering she has only been beaten in a fight 3 times, 'course there is also the matter of how many fights shes been in. And honestly i think if you get her pissed enough she could even make Fa'lina wince.
That is also my thinking... I confuse myself. :mowdizzy
...Is the purple under Fa'Lina's lip natural or lip-stick?
Quote from: Feather Dancer on September 05, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
It shows the talent of a good plot writer to cause such theories ;)
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
For my part, I wasn't intending to go into the theory big-time here - if Jairus hadn't asked, I wouldn't have elaborated.
*Charles stupidifies* I think Dr. Ink is Dan's father... cuz then it would be like Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker, cuz Ink is all evil and stuff and Dan isnt and Ink wants him to join the Cubi Side and stuff. :B
*Charline :tumbleweed * I think the brain damage from Charles' many deaths is proving cumulative. Well, I think Edward can't be Aniz! It'd prove too many specs right! Writers hate that. ;)
*Reads through the theories and headdesks. Several times.*
I have a whole rant on how off-the-wall speculation gives one cancer...and I'm wondering if anyone else pointed out the fact that Aniz seems to hate Destania...but I'll leave it at that.
Anyway, about the strip itself, I'm glad that we're getting into some of the nitty gritty on the situation. I for one am wondering about May as well. And about where Kria said she'd be. Since she knew Abel's family, I think it may be within her mercy to help May out once she got back.
But that's just me. :rolleyes
Quote from: Aisha deCabre on September 05, 2008, 11:16:51 AM
*Reads through the theories and headdesks. Several times.*
I have a whole rant on how off-the-wall speculation gives one cancer...and I'm wondering if anyone else pointed out the fact that Aniz seems to hate Destania...but I'll leave it at that.
Well, that's what happens when I'm up till two AM: I break out in speculation. Personally, I don't believe the Aniz=Edward theory, and a part of me thinks Aniz screwed up a second time and someone killed him, but I'm willing to wait and see what really happened.
Heh, here's an example of really wild speculation: maybe Aniz is really Moira, which would make Jyrras Abel's half-brother... and that also ruin the shipping. Never mind.
PS: No, I don't think Aniz is Moira. That's a little wild even for Amber.
Stop all the speculation and surprise before you give Speed a heart attack!
(http://www.appistry.com/blogs/files/appcom/sam/2008/06/speed_racer_image__3__2.jpg)
In all seriousness though, this is as interesting as its ever been plot wise. I love Falina's face in the last panel.
Are you basing the idea that Aniz hates Destania on this one (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_019.php). I had a different take on it. I assumed that Aniz was in love with Destania, :hug but he couldn't face her because of something related to his banishment, with the banishment due to some action his clan took in response to their perception of Fa'lina's weakness. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_018.php). Perhaps Destania's clan had declared a vendetta against Aniz's clan because of what happened, and Aniz and Destania became star-crossed lovers stuck between warring families like Romeo and Juliet. Aniz left because he didn't want to place Destania in a precarious situation. That was why I assumed that her stating that her laws required her to kill him might have been referring to the vendetta. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_298.php)
Of course, this all depends on Aniz having some good qualities, which some have claimed is a little far-fetched. :erk
I was reading through the comics again ealier and noticed when Aniz cut Abel's forehead, he says "Especially if "she" is involved. Better be safe and not push it." He got cut of due to Hennya attacked him unfortantely but there's another hmm there. He clearly has issues with Dee (Good or bad) and we know she was in the Pain & Terror department.
Could this comic have been an early referal to her? It's certainly not Fa'Lina as he mentioned her by name. It could be something completely different and thrown in as a red herring but all this musing made me think about it. I'm just having a general hmm rather than linking though :)
This is the comic I'm refering to. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_96.php)
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: Feather Dancer on September 05, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
It shows the talent of a good plot writer to cause such theories ;)
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
Epylliptic Orchard?
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: Feather Dancer on September 05, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
It shows the talent of a good plot writer to cause such theories ;)
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
I'm going to have to agree with this assertion. Madness, indeed.
I'm more curious about what Fa'Lina's going to say in the next comic than the Aniz is Edward theory, to be honest. I'm not exactly a fan of the Aniz = Edward theory anyway, and this is only because of the delivery and the repetitive speculation, not because of the theory itself.
It started off as a good idea, but now it's become the forum buttmonkey of speculations.
On the subject of Aniz, I'm a steadfast believer in the idea that Aniz is a terrible, irredeemable, cowardly bully, and nothing else.
So there. :U
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 05, 2008, 03:49:12 PM
On the subject of Aniz, I'm a steadfast believer in the idea that Aniz is a terrible, irredeemable, cowardly bully, and nothing else.
So there. :U
I'm not really a fan either... I just spent an hour speculating trying to figure out all the loops and hoops you'd have to jump to get it to work. It
could work... but it feels so complicated that I don't see how it is really feasible.
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.
Hooray! Someone agrees with me!
Let's start a club. :3
My brain seems to think that Edward killed Aniz.
I don't really know why, but that works forme.
Quote from: Lucheek on September 05, 2008, 04:21:05 PM
My brain seems to think that Edward killed Aniz.
I don't really know why, but that works forme.
That... would be so perfect. Almost as perfect as Abel leaving his dad begging for mercy after a beatdown. It certainly sounds interesting, but the coincidences involved would be a little hard to bear.
Ohh my, Fa'Lina does look angry in the last panel. >.> I wonder what she's planning on doing <.< I hope she doesn't murderize Aniz too badly >.>
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 05, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.
Hooray! Someone agrees with me!
Let's start a club. :3
Me me I will join..... I get the I hate Aniz buttons.
But seriously There is one fact that this theory can't get around is Destania is a Cubi, and she would know or figure out that Aniz is Edward or a cubi after 20 years. Edward was an Inn keeper, and retire adventurer, he is not going out and away from home. He would be home, working everyday with her. And why keep Alexsi alive, if Destania and Edward/Alexsi knew that each other was a cubi.
Also, Whose clan mark would the Cubi cub get if his parents are from different clans? Is it a 50/50 chance? Dan has Destania's clan mark.
PBH
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on September 05, 2008, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on September 05, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
And I agree with you wholeheartedly on your assessment of Aniz. And I'll say it again: the man needs another beatdown, preferably from his son.
Hooray! Someone agrees with me!
Let's start a club. :3
Me me I will join..... I get the I hate Aniz buttons.
But seriously There is one fact that this theory can't get around is Destania is a Cubi, and she would know or figure out that Aniz is Edward or a cubi after 20 years. Edward was an Inn keeper, and retire adventurer, he is not going out and away from home. He would be home, working everyday with her. And why keep Alexsi alive, if Destania and Edward/Alexsi knew that each other was a cubi.
Also, Whose clan mark would the Cubi cub get if his parents are from different clans? Is it a 50/50 chance? Dan has Destania's clan mark.
PBH
I could be mistaken but I remember reading that a 'cubi born from two 'cubi not of the same clan takes the clan marking of their more powerful parent. Ive been listening to the Leekspin-Soul Sucking Edition too much. :B
with that cold face and that statement by Abel...
I'm expecting there will eventually be fisticuffs in store.
I'm pretty sure you know but he probably wouldnt have that cold face if he could feel emotions
Quote from: Dagardo on September 05, 2008, 11:12:45 PM
I'm pretty sure you know but he probably wouldnt have that cold face if he could feel emotions
Spock considers you statement illogical.
Anyway, logical entities tend to seem cold to those of a more emotional state. This coldness or distance applies to all things equally, with the possible exception of things the entity is thinking about, which can make the entity seem colder and more remote.
So you're saying those who are speaking logically seem colder to those in an emotional state than they really are? Sorry if I'm inadvertently being irritating, but I'm kinda clueless to smart talk, even though people seem to tell me all the time I'm really smart. :B I guess I just don't pay attention.
Quote from: Dagardo on September 05, 2008, 11:38:44 PM
So you're saying those who are speaking logically seem colder to those in an emotional state than they really are? Sorry if I'm inadvertently being irritating, but I'm kinda clueless to smart talk, even though people seem to tell me all the time I'm really smart. :B I guess I just don't pay attention.
Maintaining a detached mind is key to noticing things that, if you allowed yourself to get angry or emotional, you would otherwise not notice. For instance, if the bad guy is threatening a person close to the hero, the attached hero will charge headfirst at said baddie to try and stop him. A detached/logical hero would monitor and analyze the baddie for weaknesses and exploit them at opportune moments to get the person away from the baddie, or kill the baddie before they can kill the hostage.
Now I understand what you're saying... at least the part about a detached/logical hero. 'Cuz if they charge in without think thinking odds are they miss a vital detail and wind up dead. "Patience is a warriors greatest weapon." Quoted from Jak 3, said by Damos. And I assume he meant any one who fights, melee or otherwise.
On a side note something makes me wish i was like that and didn't feel emotions. >:3
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 05, 2008, 05:14:06 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 05, 2008, 05:02:28 AM
Okay, I can see that. In that case, why would Aniz breed with another clan if he wants to bolster his own clan's ranks, which is what it seems he's trying to do?
That's a good point. On the other hand, if he really did fall for Destania, he might have put that project behind him. Or maybe he just didn't know.
ok im a late comer to this discussion but Did anyone point out That.. Anzi took 375 years of banishment over staying in SAIA with Destania... Could he really have "Fallen for her?
Quote from: Yugo on September 05, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
I'm going to have to agree with this assertion. Madness, indeed.
As one of the few voices of sanity, I'm quite obliged to be cheerful that other people - not just yourself - agree with my commentary. The number of wild and off the wall theories around here seem to only increase in number with every new comic that has even the tiniest of plot points. :<
Quote from: Ganurath on September 05, 2008, 03:08:40 PM
Epylliptic Orchard?
"Epileptic", and that's an excellent summation. Of course, it'll fly over the head of anyone who doesn't know of the life-destroying site it came from~
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 06, 2008, 04:21:48 AM
Quote from: Yugo on September 05, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on September 05, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
Or arguably, that everyone here is incredibly, one might even say ridiculously, overanalytical in their study and desire for More Data. Some of the theories that crop up are like hillocks to the mountains of madness.
I'm going to have to agree with this assertion. Madness, indeed.
As one of the few voices of sanity, I'm quite obliged to be cheerful that other people - not just yourself - agree with my commentary. The number of wild and off the wall theories around here seem to only increase in number with every new comic that has even the tiniest of plot points. :<
roying site it came from~
I can only speculate how bad it was when Biggs revealed that Edward had been imprisoned by the Dragons and the only reason Dan was still alive was because the Dragon race didn't know that he even existed.
Now I wonder why Edward was captured in the firs place. :U
Quote from: Dagardo on September 06, 2008, 11:00:17 AM
Now I wonder why Edward was captured in the firs place. :U
I always assumed that it was an attempt to counter Destania's plans.
Quote from: Naldru on September 06, 2008, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 06, 2008, 11:00:17 AM
Now I wonder why Edward was captured in the firs place. :U
I always assumed that it was an attempt to counter Destania's plans.
Good point, and now i wonder if she has ways of infiltrating the dragons ranks and freeing Edward without a hitch, course the dragons may of thought of that and set something up... Quite a conundrum, at least for me. Well I guess its like I said, I don't pay a lot of attention.
And on an unrelated note, I agree with Fi, Hot Pockets FTW! :)
Quote from: Dagardo on September 06, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
Good point, and now i wonder if she has ways of infiltrating the dragons ranks and freeing Edward without a hitch, course the dragons may of thought of that and set something up... Quite a conundrum, at least for me. Well I guess its like I said, I don't pay a lot of attention.
And on an unrelated note, I agree with Fi, Hot Pockets FTW! :)
Well, Biggs apparently has a source within the dragon ranks. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php) There was some speculation that it might be Pyroduck.
It may be madness to speculate. But then, the Cheshire Cat was wise: We're all mad, you know.
Quote from: Jairus on September 06, 2008, 10:55:57 AM
I can only speculate how bad it was when Biggs revealed that Edward had been imprisoned by the Dragons and the only reason Dan was still alive was because the Dragon race didn't know that he even existed.
Personally, I'd take anything Biggs told me with a grain of salt...
But that's just me.
Quote from: Aleolus on September 05, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
Ohh my, Fa'Lina does look angry in the last panel. >.> I wonder what she's planning on doing <.< I hope she doesn't murderize Aniz too badly >.>
Why not? I hope she doesn't do it too
quickly.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 06, 2008, 02:24:43 PM
Quote from: Jairus on September 06, 2008, 10:55:57 AM
I can only speculate how bad it was when Biggs revealed that Edward had been imprisoned by the Dragons and the only reason Dan was still alive was because the Dragon race didn't know that he even existed.
Personally, I'd take anything Biggs told me with a grain of salt...
But that's just me.
But Destania can read Biggs's mind. And that is going into a really twisted and warped place.
Quote from: Naldru on September 06, 2008, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 06, 2008, 02:24:43 PM
Personally, I'd take anything Biggs told me with a grain of salt...
But that's just me.
But Destania can read Biggs's mind. And that is going into a really twisted and warped place.
And? How do we know that Biggs is not enunciating a previously agreed-upon cover story for the sake of any listening devices that might or might not be around?
After all, for all we know, Destania has already let him know that there are listening devices, and he's deliberately leaving them present so that the owners of them can hear what he wants them to hear...
Twisty doesn't begin to describe where I can go with this. ;-]
I should have just PM'd Jairus about that, because I seem to have positively ruined the thread here. I can get 2 and 2 to equal 5 as well as anyone else, but I think this might be drifting a little too far, even for me.
The trick is to try and get a balanced theory which is profitable, i.e. it has more in favour of it than it has holes, and which explains more than it requires dicking around to make it work.
Ewps.
Sorry about that; my mind is a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Or, as listed elsewhere: Twisty a of in maze are you, passages little.
Anybody out there play the Mines game on Windows or Linux? It takes a lot of convoluted logic and effort to reach the end, usually blows up in your face, and you don't really get anything when you win. Reminds me of the debates about what Amber is going to do with the plot. But it's fun.
Anybody else want to write the International Olympics Committee and suggest that leaping to conclusions be made an olympic event?
Llearch may indeed have a mind that is a maze of twisty little passages. The problem with predicting the plot is that that description also applies to Amber.
Well if Aniz's goal is to motivate Abel to learn by trauma and threats. The only way that would work is if Abel became vengence obsessed with getting back at Aniz. So I wonder what Aniz is thinking if that's what he wants.
Quote from: Tsunari on September 06, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
Well if Aniz's goal is to motivate Abel to learn by trauma and threats. The only way that would work is if Abel became vengence obsessed with getting back at Aniz. So I wonder what Aniz is thinking if that's what he wants.
Abel (to me) dosent seem to be the type to be obsessed with vengeance, or respond to threats at all, unless in some semi-rare instances (maybe?). Although he does seem to get pissed easily. See here. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_811.php (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_811.php)
Just something I'd like to point out. Not saying I support the Ed=Aniz, but there is this. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php)
Wonder why someone might assume Abel would have a soft spot for Ed Ti'Fiona's son
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on September 07, 2008, 09:27:36 PM
Just something I'd like to point out. Not saying I support the Ed=Aniz, but there is this. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php)
Wonder why someone might assume Abel would have a soft spot for Ed Ti'Fiona's son
There are some who think that is because Edward Killed Aniz, and Abel is grateful.
I'd simply like to point out that, technically, what we've seen so far is perfectly consistent with Dan being Aniz and Abel's clan founder.
Thank you and good night.
Quote from: !KCA on September 08, 2008, 10:00:30 PM
I'd simply like to point out that, technically, what we've seen so far is perfectly consistent with Dan being Aniz and Abel's clan founder.
Thank you and good night.
What? Dan isn't due to enter the picture for another 350 years.
Quote from: DarkAudit on September 08, 2008, 10:24:53 PM
Quote from: !KCA on September 08, 2008, 10:00:30 PM
I'd simply like to point out that, technically, what we've seen so far is perfectly consistent with Dan being Aniz and Abel's clan founder.
Thank you and good night.
What? Dan isn't due to enter the picture for another 350 years.
Think what !KCA is saying is the chances of Aniz being Edward are about as high as Dan being the founder of Abel and Aniz's clan. Damn, please disregard that double post. I messed up. :<
P.S. I want to :hug all Warp-aci. :)
What double post? *whistles*
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 03:20:18 AM
What double post? *whistles*
llearch you're funny, :giggle thanks though. :mowsmile
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:25:41 AM
llearch you're funny, :giggle thanks though. :mowsmile
As we used to say, "Funny ha-ha, or funny peculiar?" ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:25:41 AM
llearch you're funny, :giggle thanks though. :mowsmile
As we used to say, "Funny ha-ha, or funny peculiar?" ;-]
At the moment, "Funny ha-ha". And while I'm thinking about it, do you have any clue if people can forget how to cry?
I thought Argentina had been asked to do that. I don't know if they were successful, though...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 04:00:50 AM
I thought Argentina had been asked to do that. I don't know if they were successful, though...
Don't know if I should be asking but I'm going to sate my curiosity, do what? Feel free to do whatever to me if I wasn't supposed to ask (preferably within rational measure). :B
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:36:05 AMAnd while I'm thinking about it, do you have any clue if people can forget how to cry?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 04:00:50 AMI thought Argentina had been asked to do that. I don't know if they were successful, though...
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 04:14:07 AMDon't know if I should be asking but I'm going to sate my curiosity, do what? Feel free to do whatever to me if I wasn't supposed to ask (preferably within rational measure). :B
Does this help answer your question?
Quote from: Jairus on September 09, 2008, 04:16:29 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:36:05 AMAnd while I'm thinking about it, do you have any clue if people can forget how to cry?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 04:00:50 AMI thought Argentina had been asked to do that. I don't know if they were successful, though...
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 04:14:07 AMDon't know if I should be asking but I'm going to sate my curiosity, do what? Feel free to do whatever to me if I wasn't supposed to ask (preferably within rational measure). :B
Does this help answer your question?
Nope, sorry still clueless. :)
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 04:17:47 AM
Quote from: Jairus on September 09, 2008, 04:16:29 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:36:05 AMAnd while I'm thinking about it, do you have any clue if people can forget how to cry?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 04:00:50 AMI thought Argentina had been asked to do that. I don't know if they were successful, though...
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 04:14:07 AMDon't know if I should be asking but I'm going to sate my curiosity, do what? Feel free to do whatever to me if I wasn't supposed to ask (preferably within rational measure). :B
Does this help answer your question?
Nope, sorry still clueless. :)
I am about 95% certain that you are currently making fun of me. In case you are not, however, you asked if people could forget how to cry, and Boxy answered that Argentina had been asked to do so. It is a reference to the musical
Evita and in song "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" sung by the titular character at the end of the show.
I promise I'm not making fun of you, up 'till now I've never heard of the musical you speak of. I don't think I've ever really heard a musical, and If I have I wasn't paying attention to it and forgot it. I don't really listen to music that isn't heavy. :3
Ah, so you listen to music that has solid performance? Or just immobile?
;-]
Both I guess, I'm just not a big fan of anything that isn't related to the metal genre, or rock. :3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:25:41 AM
llearch you're funny, :giggle thanks though. :mowsmile
As we used to say, "Funny ha-ha, or funny peculiar?" ;-]
Bit of both, actually. :mwaha
Quote from: DarkAudit on September 09, 2008, 12:07:54 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 09, 2008, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on September 09, 2008, 03:25:41 AM
llearch you're funny, :giggle thanks though. :mowsmile
As we used to say, "Funny ha-ha, or funny peculiar?" ;-]
Bit of both, actually. :mwaha
Both may be an drastic understatement for all we know. :3
ahahahahah
It just dawned on me that Abel has a B^U face in last week's AS.
Quote from: Goatmon on September 14, 2008, 08:00:28 AM
ahahahahah
It just dawned on me that Abel has a B^U face in last week's AS.
Grrr...
Do
not go there. The Buckley is a Bad Person. One who should be shunned. Associating anything Amber does with B^U should be considered a grave insult to Amber.
Oooo, I like that Ed killed Aniz theory. I've always pondered what the mad doc was going on about with Abel in 527. Edward certainly didn't fear cubi, and if he was anywhere as good or even better than Dan, my money is that Edward could beat the idiot out of Aniz..
.. Okay, so maybe no one could thrash him THAT hard, but Ed certainly could kill him twice over. :mowhappy
Quote from: Goatmon on September 14, 2008, 08:00:28 AM
ahahahahah
It just dawned on me that Abel has a B^U face in last week's AS.
A what face?
Quote from: Aurawyn on September 14, 2008, 11:57:07 AM
Quote from: Goatmon on September 14, 2008, 08:00:28 AM
ahahahahah
It just dawned on me that Abel has a B^U face in last week's AS.
A what face?
I wondered the exact same thing.
Quote from: Aurawyn on September 14, 2008, 11:57:07 AM
Quote from: Goatmon on September 14, 2008, 08:00:28 AM
ahahahahah
It just dawned on me that Abel has a B^U face in last week's AS.
A what face?
If you turn "B^U" 90 degrees clockwise, you've got the same expression Abel is making in the bottom left panel here.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_030.php
The reason I find this so funny, is because that smiley was pretty much coined entirely to make fun of Ctrl-Alt-Delete, who's creator is renowned by his lazy art because he copy and pastes the same B^U expressions on all of his characters over and over again.
Don't get the wrong idea, Amber's art is great and I've never thoguht it to be repetative. The way she uses it here makes total sense, seeing as Abel is supposed to be completely devoid of emotions in that scene. It's just funny how she appropriately uses an expression that's normally used to make fun of someone else's hollow artstyle.
Quote from: Goatmon on September 14, 2008, 07:21:13 PM
It's just funny how she appropriately uses an expression that's normally used to make fun of someone else's hollow soul.
FTFY.
I'll hold my comments re:Buckley to Bad Person, lest I bring down the wrath of the mods.