random1 - Probably one of the few times Dan turns down an advance.
random2 - ...Kira looks devilishly attractive or is an attractive Devil. I can't decide.
Mad is guessing that Kira is 'selling out' her brother for his own good. She did say every time she resurrected him, he appeared not to be all there.
"Random 2" They never have to be mutually exclusive. >:]
It is sad that we will probably not be seeing DP again, except in a flashback. But I wouldn't want him removed far from himself.
I just hope someone else doesn't get to his body before Dan. I can imagine his reaction now, "Are we playing corpse keep away or something?!"
Quote from: Madmann135 on December 31, 2008, 03:35:16 AM
random2 - ...Kira looks devilishly attractive or is an attractive Devil. I can't decide.
Could be both. She
is a Demon, after all... :P
Is Fi asleep on the floor?
Quote from: Gamma on December 31, 2008, 03:51:27 AM
It is sad that we will probably not be seeing DP again, except in a flashback. But I wouldn't want him removed far from himself.
Indeed. It's probably better for his spiritual wellbeing this way. Assuming of course that Dan isn't somehow prevented from cremating the body.
**EDIT**
Did anyone else read Kria's stripes as a sort of swish with the word"ZIIM" written on them?
*in a narrator voice* Hey everyone, see if you can spot the Fi in this picture
Quote from: Hellcat on December 31, 2008, 04:44:09 AM
*in a narrator voice* Hey everyone, see if you can spot the Fi in this picture
[excitedvoice]Ooo, ooo, behind the leg of the couch, right?[/excitedvoice]
Also, I'm wondering if Dan would refuse Kria's advance if he didn't know she was Lorenda's mom.
Daniel doesn't know a good offer when he sees it, I guess.
*crosses his fingers that Dan doesnt have the casha nd will end up doing shirtless yardwrok for a year.*
So I take it Kria's not Dan's perfect date?
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2008, 04:32:48 AMDid anyone else read Kria's stripes as a sort of swish with the word"ZIIM" written on them?
I see what you're saying, but I doubt it's intentional.
That said, I'd be dying of laughter if there ever were a NINA hidden in one of Amber's drawings.
Quote from: Gamma on December 31, 2008, 03:51:27 AM
It is sad that we will probably not be seeing DP again, except in a flashback. But I wouldn't want him removed far from himself.
You're presuming that Dan has enough cash.
"I mean, crap, this looks more like... a ... telephone number. Oh."
Wow, poor Dan just can't get a break. Though Kria does act like a fun one to make up dialogue for.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 08:32:43 AM
You're presuming that Dan has enough cash.
He seems to be fairly well-off. Sword collection, loot, presumably some kind of reward for the 'Warrior for Hire' episode...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 08:32:43 AM
You're presuming that Dan has enough cash.
"I mean, crap, this looks more like... a ... telephone number. Oh."
You think he'd fall for that again?
... oh wait... this -is- Dan we're talking about.
*swipes Dan's wallet and makes a run for it*
If Dan did fall for that again... I wonder how Ma~ would take it.
There is no honor among thieves... or demons. :3
Quote from: Alondro on December 31, 2008, 09:39:21 AM
There is no honor among thieves... or demons. :3
Fortunately Dan is
also a demon, in the general sense.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2008, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 08:32:43 AM
You're presuming that Dan has enough cash.
He seems to be fairly well-off. Sword collection, loot, presumably some kind of reward for the 'Warrior for Hire' episode...
You presume he hasn't a) drunk the lot, or b) spent it all on pointies.
Specifically, he needs the liquid assets. Swords aren't very liquid - although I'll grant you pointing one at someone's throat will likely get you some spare change...
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2008, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: Alondro on December 31, 2008, 09:39:21 AM
There is no honor among thieves... or demons. :3
Fortunately Dan is also a demon, in the general sense.
Yes but he fights that aspect and seems to rely on adventurer's honor and camaraderie. That generally comes with a set of laws of governance based on class stereotypes (i.e. don't trust the thief, the cleric is a paragon of justice, the fighter is an honorable and stalwart companion, etc.). Just based on the few examples of adventurers you meet (such as Nitemyst's coterie). Additionally, Dan works largely off of the tenets taught to him by Edward, which he is much more alike than Dest.
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Specifically, he needs the liquid assets. Swords aren't very liquid - although I'll grant you pointing one at someone's throat will likely get you some spare change...
Stand and deliver, or the devil he may take ya...
Well, I guess if he needs to, Dan can always pass of the bill to Biggs.
However, part of me wonders if Kria has any intention of honoring her deal. If Dan doesn't cremate DP immediately... I could see her recovering DP's body and continuing the ritual an hour after she receives her payment. It would be a win-win situation in Kria's book, and she isn't exactly the most 'lawful' denizen of Furrae either.
Quote from: The1Kobra on December 31, 2008, 11:12:29 AM
However, part of me wonders if Kria has any intention of honoring her deal. If Dan doesn't cremate DP immediately... I could see her recovering DP's body and continuing the ritual an hour after she receives her payment. It would be a win-win situation in Kria's book, and she isn't exactly the most 'lawful' denizen of Furrae either.
It would then be Biggstania's problem again, since as you suggest, Dan's liable to claim the thing on expenses.
Also, if Kria does have the hots for Dan, teeing him off in that manner is an odd way of showing it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on December 31, 2008, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: The1Kobra on December 31, 2008, 11:12:29 AM
However, part of me wonders if Kria has any intention of honoring her deal. If Dan doesn't cremate DP immediately... I could see her recovering DP's body and continuing the ritual an hour after she receives her payment. It would be a win-win situation in Kria's book, and she isn't exactly the most 'lawful' denizen of Furrae either.
It would then be Biggstania's problem again, since as you suggest, Dan's liable to claim the thing on expenses.
Also, if Kria does have the hots for Dan, teeing him off in that manner is an odd way of showing it.
Since when has Kria been one of the more honest or stable members of the Furrae community?
Hmm, at times I really can't understand Dan, I would go for Kria and keep my money. Afterwards I probably won't even care about DP!
Quote from: Kipiru on December 31, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
Hmm, at times I really can't understand Dan, I would go for Kria and keep my money. Afterwards I probably won't even care about DP!
That's because Dan has taste... ;-]
So I guess this confirms that Kria's a predator first and foremost. :B
If Kria had a reputation for not doing what she's paid for, she would have a hard time getting those assorted side jobs (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_757.php). Besides, stiffing Dan would probably also offend Lorenda.
Another item is that if she didn't feel the need for keeping her word, she could probably just stop resurrecting her brother.
By the way, this link contains information on Al Hirschfeld for those who are wondering about the reference to NINA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hirschfeld).
By the way, I could see Alexis adding a little bit to the charges for damages to the inn and placing the money in an account for Dan to use later.
Edit:
I believe that Kria's remark was with regard to turning Dan into a stiff, not stiffing him.
Quote from: Naldru on December 31, 2008, 02:08:39 PM
..Besides, stiffing Dan would probably also offend Lorenda.
As I believe she's already expressed previously.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on December 31, 2008, 11:40:48 AM
Since when has Kria been one of the more honest or stable members of the Furrae community?
Stable? Yeah...Kria is not known for her resolve or lack of impulse. :U
Honesty though is another issue. It's never been fully tapped into or explained up front in comic, but most creatures are incredibly honest. As a society, its a power thing in that only the weak bother with deception and dishonesty because if they were strong, they wouldn't have to rely on underhanded tactics. It's generally one of the reasons Cubi get such a bad rap among other Creatures...a race that tends to have disguise self as a feature tends to be considered untrustworthy and weak. As such, when one lives in a world where many things live for hundreds if not thousands of years...and financial wealth can only get one so far...ones reputation can be the most valuable thing an individual has. So when it comes to dishonesty, many creatures will avoid that route.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: Kipiru on December 31, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
Hmm, at times I really can't understand Dan, I would go for Kria and keep my money. Afterwards I probably won't even care about DP!
That's because Dan has taste... ;-]
...different than mine! >:3
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 31, 2008, 02:21:34 PM
Honesty though is another issue. It's never been fully tapped into or explained up front in comic, but most creatures are incredibly honest. As a society, its a power thing in that only the weak bother with deception and dishonesty because if they were strong, they wouldn't have to rely on underhanded tactics. It's generally one of the reasons Cubi get such a bad rap among other Creatures...a race that tends to have disguise self as a feature tends to be considered untrustworthy and weak. As such, when one lives in a world where many things live for hundreds if not thousands of years...and financial wealth can only get one so far...ones reputation can be the most valuable thing an individual has. So when it comes to dishonesty, many creatures will avoid that route.
Such a situation only works when everyone agrees to work with it.
As soon as one person is dishonest, they tend to get away with murder...
Of course, there are checks and balances there that we don't see much of; the whole Adventurer business is one such, and dishonesty on such a scale is likely to bring them out of the woodwork...
But I digress.
Quote from: Gamma on December 31, 2008, 03:51:27 AM
"Random 2" They never have to be mutually exclusive. >:]
A devilishly attractive devil... has a nice ring to it.
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 31, 2008, 02:21:34 PM
Stable? Yeah...Kria is not known for her resolve or lack of impulse. :U
Honesty though is another issue. It's never been fully tapped into or explained up front in comic, but most creatures are incredibly honest. As a society, its a power thing in that only the weak bother with deception and dishonesty because if they were strong, they wouldn't have to rely on underhanded tactics. It's generally one of the reasons Cubi get such a bad rap among other Creatures...a race that tends to have disguise self as a feature tends to be considered untrustworthy and weak. As such, when one lives in a world where many things live for hundreds if not thousands of years...and financial wealth can only get one so far...ones reputation can be the most valuable thing an individual has. So when it comes to dishonesty, many creatures will avoid that route.
So True on many levels.
But when you take into consideration that there are hundreds of thousands of different views on life and hundreds of different society standards, one could view the general demon populace is self absorbed.
Cubi are creatures that feed off of emotions and some times souls (noms his sugar cookie with a ghost on the face). In order for a cubi to get substance the cubi will have to hide amongst said prey and passively feed while interacting with their food source, generally the prey is unaware that they are being fed upon, unless the cubi gets active and grabs a soul for lunch.
In short one's view of being a coward can be anther's view of just living.
Dan's another case. He doesn't care for hiding but he does care for doing the right thing. Being a pain and riotous cubi does make his feeding habits much easier when you take in his personality.
I like how Kria's trying to curl her wing around Dan to pull him closer... >:3
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on December 31, 2008, 08:05:36 PM
I like how Kria's trying to curl her wing around Dan to pull him closer... >:3
And here I was, thinking I could feel so special being the first one to notice that. :cry
Dan's one arm seems extra furry in panel 2. I normaly don't notice the fact that it's fur normally.
he gets an offer like that from someone like Kria an refuses? I'm starting to think Abel is not the only character with dubious masculinity in this comic
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 01, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
he gets an offer like that from someone like Kria an refuses? I'm starting to think Abel is not the only character with dubious masculinity in this comic
Given the presence of Cubi in the world at all, I'd say it's a perfectly good survival instinct to refuse the :januscat that's offered to you. You don't know where it's been.
You know, who's to say DP can't be revived from nothing but ashes? All that's implied here is that Kria doesn't know a method to do so. Maybe insane evil people know them and will just for the sake of being evil.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 01, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
he gets an offer like that from someone like Kria an refuses? I'm starting to think Abel is not the only character with dubious masculinity in this comic
Typical of Dan's luck, he goes from hopeless with women to attracting the wrong sort.
On an unrelated note check out my post in the villa!
Is it just me, or is every other strip with Kria suggestive in some way? Given, yes, she is hawt, and I'd love to be in Dan's shoes (XD), but it makes the character sound either always looking for a shag or just overly flirty. Probably the latter, but in a 3 page strip, it makes it hard for character development.
... On a sidenote, I'm surprised Kria hasn't been Rule 34'ed yet. I have found ONE pic of Mab in a birthday suit, but otherwise it looks like DMFA is sliding past the Molden Rule.
This raises a question, has Dan actually slept with anyone? I won't go in with what's possible (but as likely as a big meteor crushing SAIA), since it's squicky... but also amusing for me.
This took a lot of searching to find and it's probably the nearest you're going to get to an answer:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,4995.0.html
Ah, thanks. Also, I don't think the rating fits, but I probably already said that somewhere.
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As a society, its a power thing in that only the weak bother with deception and dishonesty because if they were strong, they wouldn't have to rely on underhanded tactics. It's generally one of the reasons Cubi get such a bad rap among other Creatures...a race that tends to have disguise self as a feature tends to be considered untrustworthy and weak.
Would some of the more shadowy, manipulative angels be considered "weak" for this reason?
(edit note: Son of a narfing narf! I hate the modify button being right next to the quote button. Curse you moderating powers!)
Edit:
It's not that hard to find the right button, Amber. Maybe it's just me? ;-]
-- llearch
Quote from: Amber Williams on December 31, 2008, 02:21:34 PM
Would some of the more shadowy, manipulative angels be considered "weak" for this reason?
By some demon standards, very much so. But Angel's have a whole different system of running things and tend to know how to play their cards just enough that they don't get the reputation as manipulative and shadowy.
I guess a key thing to always remember is different races often have different mindsets. Demons in particular...they are a proud and loud race in general with borderline anarchy tendencies. They respect power, as such they will often go out of their way not to make a claim they know they cannot back up. To Demons...their reputation is something they value considerably. Now granted...to you or I, the reputation may come across as something pretty downright sinister considering some Demons have a tendency to be pretty brutal. But dishonesty is one of the things Demons dont really dwell with. Cause the logic is if you are strong enough to back yourself...why sneak around and hide?
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 01, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
he gets an offer like that from someone like Kria an refuses? I'm starting to think Abel is not the only character with dubious masculinity in this comic
I believe Dan is simply just following a most ancient of sayings of "Do not stick it in the crazy." Many a man has forgotten this sage wisdom. Many a man has regretted it.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 03:01:02 PM
Such a situation only works when everyone agrees to work with it.
As soon as one person is dishonest, they tend to get away with murder...
Of course, there are checks and balances there that we don't see much of; the whole Adventurer business is one such, and dishonesty on such a scale is likely to bring them out of the woodwork...
But I digress.
I'd say the biggest thing to remember is that Demon society is not human society. And the Demon race already tends to get away with murder quite frequently without needing to be subtle about it.
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 02, 2009, 12:35:22 AM
Quote from: Jack McSlay on January 01, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
he gets an offer like that from someone like Kria an refuses? I'm starting to think Abel is not the only character with dubious masculinity in this comic
I believe Dan is simply just following a most ancient of sayings of "Do not stick it in the crazy." Many a man has forgotten this sage wisdom. Many a man has regretted it.
I've never heard that before now. Thanks for the advice, Amber! e De
Quote from: Minishear on January 01, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
This raises a question, has Dan actually slept with anyone? I won't go in with what's possible (but as likely as a big meteor crushing SAIA), since it's squicky... but also amusing for me.
Dan has slept with Abel... in the room. Of course, Abel wasn't sleeping (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_541.php). He eventually found something to do (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_547.php).
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Quote from: Amber Williams on January 02, 2009, 12:35:22 AM
But dishonesty is one of the things Demons dont really dwell with. Cause the logic is if you are strong enough to back yourself...why sneak around and hide?
I guess DP kind of
dropped the ball (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_897.php) there? I guess if he'd already been put through the resurrection mangle a few times by that point, he might not be acting in a way that Demons call 'rational'.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 10:54:59 AM
Specifically, he needs the liquid assets.
*Charline gags trying to suppress a guffaw* Oh god... considering the alternative payment Kria is suggesting, 'liquid assets' can have such an utterly euphamistic meaning here! :milklaugh
Quote from: AmigaDragon on January 02, 2009, 03:56:03 AM
Quote from: Minishear on January 01, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
This raises a question, has Dan actually slept with anyone? I won't go in with what's possible (but as likely as a big meteor crushing SAIA), since it's squicky... but also amusing for me.
Dan has slept with Abel... in the room. Of course, Abel wasn't sleeping (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_541.php). He eventually found something to do (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_547.php).
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You know what I mean. Still, another, unrelated question. Can anyone play any instruments?
Yes, anyone can plan an instrument. How well is another matter.
Ok, ok. Going with your intent... I play some mandolin, some guitar, a little ukulele and a tiny bit of recorder.
Once the site where I have pics uploaded comes back, I'll edit and throw up an IMG link here.
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I meant in DMFA, but that's interesting.
Quote from: Alondro on January 02, 2009, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on December 31, 2008, 10:54:59 AM
Specifically, he needs the liquid assets.
*Charline gags trying to suppress a guffaw* Oh god... considering the alternative payment Kria is suggesting, 'liquid assets' can have such an utterly euphamistic meaning here! :milklaugh
*cough* You think that was accidental?
... interesting.
Nice cover Llearch, no one suspects you simply are quick witted by turning other peoples words against them. :paranoid
Oh wait, isn't that one of the definitions of having a "quick wit"?
"Don't stick it in the crazy"?! LOL Amber!! I'm gonna remember that bit of advice!
That being said.... Oh man I wouldn't mind seeing where that comic could have gone. >;)
Quote from: TheDeere on January 03, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
"Don't stick it in the crazy"?! LOL Amber!! I'm gonna remember that bit of advice!
That being said.... Oh man I wouldn't mind seeing where that comic could have gone. >;)
Make sure to read A Girl and her Fed, think that's where it came from ;)
Where it would have gone...With Dan ending up as a snack when her daughter found out about it would be one guess ;) "You did WHAT?? With my *MOM*!"
Is Kria even aware of Dan's Incubus status yet?
I'm unclear on this, due to taking a hit on the noggin' recently.
Quote from: Evandril on January 03, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Dan ending up as a snack when her daughter found out about it would be one guess ;) "You did WHAT?? With my *MOM*!"
I think Kria is used to her mother's obsessions by now. Though whether any of them have gone that far while Kria has been around is something we will likely remain blissfully ignorant of.
Quote from: Slowtini on January 03, 2009, 11:52:59 PM
Is Kria even aware of Dan's Incubus status yet?
Possibly via DP (see strip 388), but her use of the term "incubus-level hot" a few strips back suggests she hasn't quite put all the pieces together yet.
Maybe used to, but not liking.
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