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Title: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: inuhanyo on March 25, 2009, 11:47:37 PM
Hah, next we get exposition from Fa'Lina

EDIT:  Dang it, seconds apart.  Well, TapeWolf or somebody,  please merge the topics,.
Title: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Tezkat on March 25, 2009, 11:47:43 PM
Sorry to hear about your continuing money troubles, Amber. :kittydepressed Hope things work out for you and Mason! :mowcookie


Anyways... looks like some delicious infodumping ahead. Geek out in advance! >:]

Abel's secret life as a banana will finally be revealed! :dface Or was that Pyroduck? I keep mixing up Fa'Linas kids. Also, is it just me, or is she unusually... um... large today?
:mowtongue


EDIT: Dang... 6 seconds? :B
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 25, 2009, 11:51:50 PM
hmm. Not sure what to think about this strip. Contemplative characters are usually hard to read. One wonders what has Fa'Lina so worried. I mean, why should she care if Destania manages to off Aniz? It's not her problem, and Abel would probably breathe a sigh of relief.

I am hoping that Fa'Lina will reveal whatever it is that Aniz is up to, and why Abel's coloration is so important, but I've seen enough of Amber's comics now to realize that my hopes are pretty slim, and that something's going to come up.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Yes she was serious
Post by: Lisky on March 25, 2009, 11:53:16 PM
oh sweet mother... it's boob-zilia... it's back D:

and now that that's been taken care of...

i wonder what everything includes...
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Indy on March 25, 2009, 11:53:49 PM
Quote from: Tezkat on March 25, 2009, 11:47:43 PMAlso, is it just me, or is she unusually... um... large today?

I think she's just holding up her boobs with her crossed arms and that makes them look bigger from the side. Gravity, you know.

...I didn't realize how easy it is to forget how big they really are. o_o
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Jairus on March 25, 2009, 11:56:58 PM
Wow... the girls sure look bigger in profile. Also, infodump off the starboard bow! And I loved Fa'Lina's line "I've seen her attempts at humor."

And stress is perfectly understandable in your circumstances, Amber.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Starcat5 on March 25, 2009, 11:59:35 PM
*Reboot Voice* "Warning: Incoming Data."

Ooh, next week is going to have SO much yummy exposition...  :mwaha
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Jairus on March 26, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: starcat5 on March 25, 2009, 11:59:35 PM
*Reboot Voice* "Warning: Incoming Data."

Ooh, next week is going to have SO much yummy exposition...  :mwaha
Unless they take a strip to settle down for muffins and tea... which would be most delectably eeeeviiiil of Amber. :mwaha
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 12:03:13 AM
She is perfectly capable of it.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Teh_Hobo on March 26, 2009, 12:06:57 AM
Side story within a side story. YESSS.

On a "BEWBIES!" related note, man, Fa'Lina is starting to be kind of like Police Girl/Seras from Hellsing. Every issue, she seemed to get a little bigger...
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Why so serious?
Post by: Jairus on March 26, 2009, 12:07:48 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 12:03:13 AM
She is perfectly capable of it.
And she would do it so well that we would thank her for doing it and compliment her for pulling it off so well.

Actually, for the sake of pacing, I can see why she'd take an extra comic to let the characters get somewhere quiet and settled in. I sense this might take a while... and since we're about 50+ pages away from the length of Part 1, there might be quite a bit of exposition ahead of us, though there's no guarantee that Part 2 will be quite that long.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on March 26, 2009, 12:44:27 AM
Falina seems more robust. big boned...like Lorenda 
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: N-Cat on March 26, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
Yeah, I noticed that Fa'Lina was unpleasantly...erm... Large today.  Especially in the second panel.  It is also emphasized by her dress being shinier that usual.  Earlier she seemed big, but not (with implants) impossible for a supermodel or something.  Here, though, it's just plain weird.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: WojtekPod on March 26, 2009, 09:12:18 AM
*gives Amber a cookie*

I agree that exposition is coming.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 09:15:51 AM
Quote from: WojtekPod on March 26, 2009, 09:12:18 AM
I agree that exposition is coming.

Either that, or we cut to Abel leaving afterwards...

**EDIT**

I guess Fa'Lina's stupendous globes have been adequately covered by now, so I'll just mention that she looks very unimpressed with Destania in the second panel.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] Yes she was serious
Post by: LionHeart on March 26, 2009, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on March 25, 2009, 11:53:16 PM
i wonder what everything includes...
The first thing Fa'lina might have to start with is to explain to Abel what cubi are.

Given that Abel had no idea what an incubus is when Hennya commented on his headwings...
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Magic on March 26, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
QuoteI'll just mention that she looks very unimpressed with Destania in the second panel.

She knew after all what would happen. Note her disappointment in talking to Aniz back in #18.

Actually, I think this is more Amber leaving bits and pieces of Fa'lina's personality and history. She seems to have taken to being rather melancholic whenever she can't seem to change the future for the better, or the past, for that matter. Speculative, but not unfounded considering she could have easily imploded Aniz' face with a third punch back then but didn't.

Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Angel on March 26, 2009, 10:31:16 AM
First question: Exactly how much does Fa'Lina's back hurt most of the time?

And now, we wait for Fa'Lina to deliver exposition. And all the confused readers cheer. :)
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Magic on March 26, 2009, 10:39:50 AM
Short answer, no.
Long answer, her dresses are more likely to protest than her back.
Cynical answer, this thread will most assuredly derail into bras and cup sizes the moment anyone else talks about it so back on topic.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Azlan on March 26, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
In fantasy and comics, breast sizes and the effect on the body rarely follow real life situations. 

Cubi seems to be able to defy certain physical conventions because of shapeshifting in my observations, reorienting mass and such.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Turnsky on March 26, 2009, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: Azlan on March 26, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
In fantasy and comics, breast sizes and the effect on the body rarely follow real life situations. 

Cubi seems to be able to defy certain physical conventions because of shapeshifting in my observations, reorienting mass and such.

not forgetting that Fa'Lina has "standard equipment", too. if you want the logical conclusion, Cubi prolly have enhanced back muscles anyway due to their wings.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 11:51:21 AM
Doesn't she mention at some point that "Any bigger and I'd have to reinforce my spine?"
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 11:51:21 AM
Doesn't she mention at some point that "Any bigger and I'd have to reinforce my spine?"
Presumably she has...
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
 Abel's story, part two issue twenty five (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_025.php)


It also seems to imply that 'Cubi are bound by laws of physics, no matter what their form are.

I'm still wondering here if a 'Cubi can shapeshift a cut closed. Or regrow a major organ. Or turn into an animal without having to go through the irritation of having to adapt to a novel sensory array and new center of mass.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
I'm still wondering here if a 'Cubi can shapeshift a cut closed.
They can do something like that, yes.

QuoteOr regrow a major organ.
Don't know about internal organs, but assuming the injury itself doesn't kill them, they can regenerate limbs etc.

QuoteOr turn into an animal without having to go through the irritation of having to adapt to a novel sensory array and new center of mass.
Aary turned into a feral poodle, though that might be a case of stretching 'reality' to fit the joke, who knows...
No, I misspoke.  Weres can transform into feral animals, so it's a good bet 'Cubi can too.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 01:22:16 PM
I'm not doubting that a 'Cubi can turn into an animal.

But lets say, Jack the Cubi wanted to turn into a cat for some reason. Compared to humans at least, (and presumably humanoid 'Cubi) Cats have extremely good hearing and smell, with sight not being quite as good in normal light, although very good relative vision in the dark. You are now quadraped, much lower to the ground, your weight distributed differently etc.

If we wanted to be 100% realistic/deny any compensatory abilities, then our 'Cubi turned cat will probably spend a lot of time tripping over his paws, bumping into things, etc until he gets used to his new form. I was wondering whether or not 'Cubi had to go through that learning process.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 01:22:16 PM
If we wanted to be 100% realistic/deny any compensatory abilities, then our 'Cubi turned cat will probably spend a lot of time tripping over his paws, bumping into things, etc until he gets used to his new form. I was wondering whether or not 'Cubi had to go through that learning process.

Tricky.  Hennya seemed to do reasonably well after the patch turned her into a Being, so that kind of magic might also provide rudimentary reflexes.  'Cubi shapeshifting is probably different.

Personally?  I'd assume they have to learn how to walk as a quadruped and use any other unusual abilities they've given themselves.
It might be a bit more widespread, actually - in one of my stories someone was fingered as a shapeshifter because they had the wrong body language for their assumed species.  That's not canon, but depending on how far Amber takes things, I could imagine that the greater part of shapeshifting is learning how to move and act like a member of a different species.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [A2#50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Psy-Kosh on March 26, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: Azlan on March 26, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
In fantasy and comics, breast sizes and the effect on the body rarely follow real life situations.

But sometimes, in fantasy comics, the effects are explicitly noted: http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2002-05-22 :)
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Angel on March 26, 2009, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Ink on March 26, 2009, 10:39:50 AM
Short answer, no.
Long answer, her dresses are more likely to protest than her back.
Cynical answer, this thread will most assuredly derail into bras and cup sizes the moment anyone else talks about it so back on topic.


Ink, because I respect you and your Zero Punctuation quotage, I will obey and get things away from the off-topic-ness. I created it, I can destroy it.

Quote from: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 26, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
I'm still wondering here if a 'Cubi can shapeshift a cut closed.
They can do something like that, yes.

QuoteOr regrow a major organ.
Don't know about internal organs, but assuming the injury itself doesn't kill them, they can regenerate limbs etc.

Then how come Abel needed RJ and Ink to heal his torn-off wing in ? He was decidedly not dead, but he didn't heal the injury on his own. I always figured regenerators didn't need to think consciously about healing an injury...or do they?

Also, Amber, that isn't whining. That's completely logical stress, and this is your site, so there is no need to apologize for telling us what's going on. I'd donate money if I could, but I'm a technically-unemployed college freshman. So I'm sending you good thoughts instead.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: PinkKitty on March 26, 2009, 03:03:57 PM
=o.o=; I guess I am not the only one who noticed a certain something's tendency to... grow... as Abel's story continues. Perhaps Amber is going through another phase similar to Jy's ears.

Looking forward to next week's Abel's story though... The whole thing is 75% done, so now we are getting into the final stretch~ =n.n=
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on March 26, 2009, 03:03:38 PM
Then how come Abel needed RJ and Ink to heal his torn-off wing in ? He was decidedly not dead, but he didn't heal the injury on his own. I always figured regenerators didn't need to think consciously about healing an injury...or do they?
I'm not entirely sure how they do it, but apparently it's fairly common to Creatures.  IIRC there's a link in the wiki.  As for Abel, I imagine it takes a long, long time to regrow a wing naturally (as opposed to using spells to glue it back together).

EDIT:  http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,574.msg10293.html#msg10293
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 26, 2009, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: PinkKitty on March 26, 2009, 03:03:57 PM
=o.o=; I guess I am not the only one who noticed a certain something's tendency to... grow... as Abel's story continues. Perhaps Amber is going through another phase similar to Jy's ears.

I believe Amber has somewhere stated that when she started drawing Fa'Lina, she wasn't able to draw her as she wanted her to appear (if that makes sense).

So what we're seeing is not so much them growing, as Amber's ability to draw what we should see is improving...
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Buhamet on March 26, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
Although I find the topic of Fa'Lina's breast size highly interesting, I am wondering exactly how much there is to tell about Aniz, and what he's been doing to upset seemingly hundreds of people (apart from the general "I am your father, and your mother was a useless bag" factor with Abel) Along with how Destania is going to be shown in the rest of Abel's Story......... because now she's beginning to creep me out.......

also, mental note....... Destania = Melodramatic
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Buhamet on March 26, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
I am wondering exactly how much there is to tell about Aniz
I'm not sure that's what he's going to be told about.  Not just yet, anyway.  There's a heck of a lot of basic information that we know that Abel doesn't.
First and foremost, he needs to be gently told that he's a soul-stealing monster who can read minds and lives for thousands of years...
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Buhamet on March 26, 2009, 04:15:02 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Buhamet on March 26, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
I am wondering exactly how much there is to tell about Aniz
I'm not sure that's what he's going to be told about.  Not just yet, anyway.  There's a heck of a lot of basic information that we know that Abel doesn't.
First and foremost, he needs to be gently told that he's a soul-stealing monster who can read minds and lives for thousands of years...

That's a fair point. After all, he's as new to the whole idea as Dan, but with even less knowledge of the subject....... I just wonder if he'll react the same way as Dan did when told he's live to be thousands of years old....... I have no ide which strip that was though, my mind just blanked.


Also, looking at the new A.S. comic, I'm getting the feeling Fa'Lina doesn't like Destania at all...... maybe Abel will also find out why when told everything else (even if by accident)
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Buhamet on March 26, 2009, 04:15:02 PM
That's a fair point. After all, he's as new to the whole idea as Dan, but with even less knowledge of the subject....... I just wonder if he'll react the same way as Dan did when told he's live to be thousands of years old....... I have no ide which strip that was though, my mind just blanked.

Strip 308.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: N-Cat on March 27, 2009, 09:14:06 AM
Well Dan's only real point of reference was Aaryana, a succubus who befriended Merlitz and was generally nice, while Abel's point of reference was Aniz, who sliced his friend into nice easy pieces.  It's not hard to see who really would turn out better.   Do you guys think that Abel is going to start wearing tons of makeup and 17 belts? I'm not inclined to think so, because he was really concerned with how he looked, and this Abel looks really scared and lonely.  Looks are usually a concern when trying to impress someone, and while I think Abel is going to be emo and angsty, I think that that won't into play until something else makes him depressed.
Title: Re: 03/26/09 [Abel 2 #50] - Why so serious?
Post by: !KCA on March 27, 2009, 11:37:15 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 26, 2009, 04:16:32 PM

Strip 308. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_308.php)


Thanks for the link, Tape. I've been wondering where that was.