Project Future Radio Series
Based on the comic by J.P. Morris, aka "Tapewolf"
Organized by Jairus, Edited by Pagan
Most of you are probably aware of The DMFA Radio Series Project (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,2757.0.html), which is basically organized and edited by Tapewolf. Well, this is going to be similar: an audio play adaptation of Project Future, also by Tapewolf. However, we'll be doing a few things differently, and what with Tape already balancing a whole bunch of other things at this point, he shall not be organizing or editing this show: those duties at this point will be fulfilled by myself and Pagan respectively. At this point, we're still basically just pulling the project together, so this is more an announcement of what we're up to and also a casting call, considering we have precisely five voices at this point (Tapewolf, Pagan, Keaton, brunhidden, and myself).
Current Cast of Players:Tapewolf - Niall Jakobsohn/Nilson Ausmann
Jairus - Jakob Pettersohn
Pagan - miscellaneous background voices
Keaton - Kirian
Brunhidden - Oskar/Ashley
Tezkat - Daryil and the Panthers
Sofox
JamesCray - Farlane
llearch n'n'daCorna - Joshua/Mayor Tiandrial
Cogidubnus - Lord Page
James StarRunner
Current cast list and accent/dialect:Narrator
Joshua Oswald - British dialect, a bit like James Bond
Kristofer Ausmann - possibly slight Scandinavian accent or German accent
Nilson Ausmann* - British dialect
Oskar van Erikson*
Jakob Pettersohn - slight Scandinavian accent
Lord Page - has a certain nobility to him, occasionally lapses and sounds like a hippy, except when he plays the Dark Master
Lord Ikaarion Daryil - bright and cheerful
Panther R-MAC - clean and human sounding
Panther L-TRK - more robotic
Farlane - a pilot
Kirian - female, likely high-pitched
Niall Jakobsohn* - British dialect
Dorcan Ja'Fell - British dialect
Ashley Daryil*
* Oskar/Ashley and Niall/Nilson will likely end up having the same voice actor for each pair.
i know a swede who may be persuaded to do a role if we cajole him enough
JP isn't playing himself?
As I indicated earlier via PM, I'm game for helping out. Since they seem to be open, I guess I'll start by trying out for the panthers and Lord Daryil. Panthers are inherently awesome, and Daryil amuses me. Plus they don't have too many lines. :animesweat
Daryil's got a British accent, right? It'd be a stretch to deliver lines like "Ta for the dream, mate!" with an American accent (except maybe Brahmin). How... um... "fabulous" do you want him? >:]
Do the two panthers sound alike? By "more robotic", do you mean channeling Stephen Hawking's flat intonation, or is this more of an effect you hope to achieve in post-production?
Quote from: Tezkat on February 22, 2009, 06:02:11 AM
Daryil's got a British accent, right? It'd be a stretch to deliver lines like "Ta for the dream, mate!" with an American accent (except maybe Brahmin). How... um... "fabulous" do you want him? >:]
Oh, I say. Rather, old chap. Jolly good show, wot wot? ;-]
Quote from: Tezkat on February 22, 2009, 06:02:11 AM
JP isn't playing himself?
No. Firstly he was originally supposed to have a Scandinavian accent, though honestly, I don't care about that so much these days. Secondly, he's liable to have a different voice between Kris and Jakob. The other form he uses (when that shows up) has a different voice again.
There is also another reason that I'd rather not go into here. We may need the same actor for other work later on.
QuoteDaryil's got a British accent, right? It'd be a stretch to deliver lines like "Ta for the dream, mate!" with an American accent (except maybe Brahmin).
Daryil doesn't have to have a British accent. I'd be quite happy with him sounding like the guy in Lard or the B-52s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry0TyIJXgoU (The Power of Lard)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_7PK6cPpQ (Channel Z: see around 1:11)
...both of those seem to have had the audio track compressed to crap, but I hope it make some kind of sense.
QuoteHow... um... "fabulous" do you want him? >:]
Vary it. By default he doesn't 'sound gay'. However, there are points where he should - one of which is upcoming in the next few weeks.
QuoteDo the two panthers sound alike? By "more robotic", do you mean channeling Stephen Hawking's flat intonation, or is this more of an effect you hope to achieve in post-production?
Mac sounds perfectly human.
L-TRK (I think no-one has worked out the easter egg there) and most of the others have a slightly more mechanical delivery, slightly Dalek-like, or like Xerxes in System Shock II. ("The family, of the Many, grows. With every, passing, moment."). I suggested using pitch-manipulation in post like we did with Dark Pegasus.
Here's Xerxes: http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/test/xxrmsg09.aiff.mp3
One thing I would like to point out is that while Jakob and Kris should sound distinctly different, Oskar and Ashley, and Niall and Nilson aren't using such deep disguises, and arguably should have the same VA. Personally I think it makes it
more confusing, particularly for Nilson who suddenly turns into Niall with little warning or explanation, since it was already implied earlier.
Jay disagrees on this count, but in the end it's up to him :P
IMHO that approach will only really work if you do a video of it as well (And I can provide all the frames for that with the speech bubbles missing on request).
**EDIT**
Guys, you forgot the narrator. There isn't much narration, but there is some.
Also, in my haste to define Page, I forgot to point out that while he has been exposed to the 1960s counterculture, he has also been an adventurer and the ruler of a city-state. So it would be best if he had a certain nobility to him as well - don't go full-out Neil on him.
**EDIT EDIT**
Now that I think about it, the hippie talk is probably something he lapses into on occasion rather than doing it all the time. There are a few serious moments when he should absolutely not do it.
At the risk of redundancy, I'll post the original descriptions of the accents that I sent to Jay:
Jakob was originally supposed to have a slightly Scandinavian accent (there are still wild wolves there, unlike the UK). I'm not quite sure whether Kris has the same voice or not. I'd imagined he does, but it probably helps a radio production if they're different... I played Shaman-Wildy in
Warrior For Hire myself for this reason.
If they are different voices, Kristofer Ausmann would have a slight German accent.
Note that Jakob is likely to [redacted] in a few [redacted] - I'd prefer to have the same actor for him in both series.
Niall/Nilson had a different upbringing so he's likely to have a different accent again - I'd like to voice him myself if possible. Joshua is the James Bond type so he should ideally have an BBC-style English accent and mannerisms.
Dorcan was written with a view to him having a British accent - I imagine him sounding a bit like Simon Jones (Arthur Dent in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy), though we also need him to go on a bender, much like Dan is at the moment.
I had my eye on Dorcan myself, but after trying a few of the upcoming lines, I wasn't quite convinced I could do it quite how I wanted.
For Kirian, you ideally want a higher-pitched female voice with the same kind of fairy-dust I use on Fi. This is basically a large amount of phasing with some echo. If you have access to a Zoom RFX-2000 I can send you the program data, or alternatively if you send me the recordings you want processed I can do that and send them back to you.
I realise that my vision of how the characters sound might not be practical, but that's how I imagined them. I'm curious to see what you'll come up with.
....
Niall and Nilson have a fairly plain British accent. Think Merlitz in the Radio Project.
Farlane sounds like a pilot. If there is a certain amount of distortion in his voice, so much the better. Think the military bots in System Shock 2. (I can provide a sound sample, but not right now)
Page normally speaks like a hippie, except for when he's doing his Dark Master bit. Think of Nigel Planer in
The Young Ones (you'll probably need YouTube for that)
[edit: see disclaimer above]
Daryil, I honestly don't know. He should sound bright and cheerful.
R-MAC has a clean, human-sounding voice, L-TRK is more robotic. Might want to consider pitch-shifting like we did with Dark Pegasus.
Hey, cool to see you're doing this.
I'd like to help out with the voicework. Little known fact about me: I took a lot of drama classes when I was in school and one of the think I specialised in was English accents.
Quote from: Sofox on February 22, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
Hey, cool to see you're doing this.
I'd like to help out with the voicework. Little known fact about me: I took a lot of drama classes when I was in school and one of the think I specialised in was English accents.
Cool - most of the characters in the series I imagine as British-sounding (well, duh...)
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 07:21:57 AM
Daryil doesn't have to have a British accent. I'd be quite happy with him sounding like the guy in Lard or the B-52s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry0TyIJXgoU (The Power of Lard)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_7PK6cPpQ (Channel Z: see around 1:11)
...both of those seem to have had the audio track compressed to crap, but I hope it make some kind of sense.
[...]
By default he doesn't 'sound gay'. However, there are points where he should - one of which is upcoming in the next few weeks.
Heh. I'd have trouble mimicking Fred Sneider without sounding really gay. Because he does, you know, sound really gay. Jello Biafra has a noticeable lisp, as well. :3
I suppose what you had in mind there was rather the energetic, punchy delivery of the spoken song? >:]
Anyways... I'll play with it a bit and see what I come up with.
QuoteMac sounds perfectly human.
L-TRK (I think no-one has worked out the easter egg there) and most of the others have a slightly more mechanical delivery, slightly Dalek-like, or like Xerxes in System Shock II. ("The family, of the Many, grows. With every, passing, moment."). I suggested using pitch-manipulation in post like we did with Dark Pegasus.
Here's Xerxes: http://www.jpmorris.force9.co.uk/music/test/xxrmsg09.aiff.mp3
When I asked whether they sounded alike, I wanted to know more if they should be recognizably the same VA. So I'd create a voice for Mac, for instance, and then just flatten the accent/emotions for his dumber brothers. Maybe add a flanger or something in post.
Or should the upgraded panthers be distinctive and unique?
QuoteOne thing I would like to point out is that while Jakob and Kris should sound distinctly different, Oskar and Ashley, and Niall and Nilson aren't using such deep disguises, and arguably should have the same VA. Personally I think it makes it more confusing, particularly for Nilson who suddenly turns into Niall with little warning or explanation, since it was already implied earlier.
Jay disagrees on this count, but in the end it's up to him :P
IMHO that approach will only really work if you do a video of it as well (And I can provide all the frames for that with the speech bubbles missing on request).
Well... I personally think it would be more confusing if they had different VAs. The first transition in Jakob's case is fairly obvious, at least (shapeshifting SFX + "ZOMG! CUBI!!!"). Changing the voice could damage the emotional investment listeners have built up, as voice is their only tie to the characters.
They don't even look all that different in Creature form... :animesweat
Quote from: Tezkat on February 22, 2009, 09:17:54 AM
I suppose what you had in mind there was rather the energetic, punchy delivery of the spoken song? >:]
Anyways... I'll play with it a bit and see what I come up with.
Pretty much, yes. See what you can do.
QuoteWhen I asked whether they sounded alike, I wanted to know more if they should be recognizably the same VA. So I'd create a voice for Mac, for instance, and then just flatten the accent/emotions for his dumber brothers. Maybe add a flanger or something in post.
Or should the upgraded panthers be distinctive and unique?
Difficult to say. There is actually a scene where someone is resurrected as a panther later on - for that it would be best if they kept the same VA as when they were alive, by the same reasoning as Niall/Nilson. With that in mind, different VAs would help.
QuoteThey don't even look all that different in Creature form... :animesweat
Niall and Ashley certainly don't, though Ash is partly Ren's fault because he couldn't do a Caracal properly :P Niall and Nilson was my fault because I thought he looked so awesome as a grey fox.
That I think, is one of the reasons we should keep the same VA for both forms.
As for Kris/Jakob, the transformation scene certainly brings out the similarities because I only had the 'Cubi line-art and had to convert that back into Kris myself.
Ah, welcome aboard Tezkat! I don't recall getting the PM, but I might have just missed it!
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 07:21:57 AM
One thing I would like to point out is that while Jakob and Kris should sound distinctly different, Oskar and Ashley, and Niall and Nilson aren't using such deep disguises, and arguably should have the same VA. Personally I think it makes it more confusing, particularly for Nilson who suddenly turns into Niall with little warning or explanation, since it was already implied earlier.
Jay disagrees on this count, but in the end it's up to him :P
Well, it's more of a worry about not having many cast members. But, as I said, we'll see how things line up when we get there.
And welcome about to you too, Sofox!
And... I'll probably have more interesting things to say when I finish waking up. Suffice to say, it looks like this project is starting to move forward. Yay!
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 22, 2009, 06:06:52 AM
Quote from: Tezkat on February 22, 2009, 06:02:11 AM
Daryil's got a British accent, right? It'd be a stretch to deliver lines like "Ta for the dream, mate!" with an American accent (except maybe Brahmin). How... um... "fabulous" do you want him? >:]
Oh, I say. Rather, old chap. Jolly good show, wot wot? ;-]
*shudders* I only do that with the atrocious British dialect when I'm feeling silly. Do people over there actually talk like that?
Quote from: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 10:19:59 AM
*shudders* I only do that with the atrocious British dialect when I'm feeling silly. Do people over there actually talk like that?
AFAIK I've only heard it in sitcoms.
If I wasnt such a fail-lord, I would totally go for Kirian. But sadly my failure is epic in its levels. :U
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 10:25:39 AM
If I wasnt such a fail-lord, I would totally go for Kirian. But sadly my failure is epic in its levels. :U
The warp-aci do have the advantage that their voices are very heavily processed.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 10:25:39 AM
If I wasnt such a fail-lord, I would totally go for Kirian. But sadly my failure is epic in its levels. :U
Well, I was actually thinking "Narrator" as a sort of in-joke. But may I consider you aboard, Amber?
Also, armed with knowledge of the future, I know that Keaton does not wish to play herself when the time comes.
I lack any decent recording device. Other than the headset I currently have...but I have absolutely zero knowledge when it comes to how to make the recording sound like it has quality or a professional feel. And I dont really have the time nor attention span to sit down and take a lot of time to learn how.
It's the main reason I never did anything for the DMFA radio project. That and I cant help but feel my voice is completely hideous.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
I lack any decent recording device. Other than the headset I currently have...but I have absolutely zero knowledge when it comes to how to make the recording sound like it has quality or a professional feel. And I dont really have the time nor attention span to sit down and take a lot of time to learn how.
Well, there are a few easy tricks that can be tried (turning off electronic items around you, making sure the heater or AC doesn't turn on suddenly), but if you don't really feel comfortable doing it then that's alright too. I'd love to sneak you in somehow, though.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
It's the main reason I never did anything for the DMFA radio project. That and I cant help but feel my voice is completely hideous.
And now you know why one of the hardest things for anyone to do is to get me to watch or listen to anything I'm in. My voice is one of the most annoying things I can hear. Though if I want to play Jakob, I'll certainly have to get used to listening to it. *shudders and weeps*
Am I going to have to post my 'how I got past hating my voice' pep talk again? :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 11:07:14 AM
Am I going to have to post my 'how I got past hating my voice' pep talk again? :P
Sure, why not? Actually, maybe it wouldn't hurt for all of us to hear it.
Quote from: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 11:09:28 AM
Sure, why not? Actually, maybe it wouldn't hurt for all of us to hear it.
I may well have said this already, but there was a time when I was starting out with the music thing, around 2003. I was only recording instrumentals because I hated the sound of my voice, it just sounded crappy.
What changed my mind was seeing the making of 'The Dark Side of the Moon'. This was an interesting program where they took the original multitracks from the album and played them back in isolation. Hearing Pink Floyd sing without any echo or reverb suddenly made me realise that Roger Waters had a crappy voice too, yet that album remained in the charts for eight years solid.
What I did then was I invested in a semi-decent microphone and an effects unit (the Zoom module I mentioned to Pagan). I began to record songs after that, using a small amount of echo and reverb to thicken my voice. In 2005 we started doing the DMFA radio project, and for the first time I was forced to record vocals without any effects.
I suddenly realised that my voice had either improved, or more likely, there was nothing wrong with it in the first place and it was all in my head.
Yeah, what Tapewolf said.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
I lack any decent recording device. Other than the headset I currently have...but I have absolutely zero knowledge when it comes to how to make the recording sound like it has quality or a professional feel. And I dont really have the time nor attention span to sit down and take a lot of time to learn how.
Really? Just open a sound recorder, press the red button, and speak into the mic. That's what I do, but if the quality comes out as bad I'm sure I could learn along the way. Still worth a shot.
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 22, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
It's the main reason I never did anything for the DMFA radio project. That and I cant help but feel my voice is completely hideous.
Don't worry, we can keep that a secret and no one listening will ever know.
egads, i have no clue which role i would be good at.... obviously im not british so that limits half of the roles, and im not exactly scandinavian either....
so either fake accent, normal voice, or the in-joke is that someone has a wisconsin swampfolk accent of absurdity
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 22, 2009, 05:52:24 PM
so either fake accent, normal voice, or the in-joke is that someone has a wisconsin swampfolk accent of absurdity
I never settled on an accent for Ashley. Besides, he's a spotted feline like Abel, you'd fit right in :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: Jairus on February 22, 2009, 10:19:59 AM
*shudders* I only do that with the atrocious British dialect when I'm feeling silly. Do people over there actually talk like that?
AFAIK I've only heard it in sitcoms.
Or when people are extracting the urine, as it were. *cough*
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 22, 2009, 07:21:57 AM
QuoteDaryil's got a British accent, right? It'd be a stretch to deliver lines like "Ta for the dream, mate!" with an American accent (except maybe Brahmin).
Daryil doesn't have to have a British accent. I'd be quite happy with him sounding like the guy in Lard or the B-52s:
QuoteHow... um... "fabulous" do you want him? >:]
Vary it. By default he doesn't 'sound gay'. However, there are points where he should - one of which is upcoming in the next few weeks.
I was thinking perhaps something like Richard Simmons.
Being an aviation enthusiast, I could hardly pass up the chance to play a sentient F-16, now could I?
Quote from: JamesCray on February 25, 2009, 09:26:37 PM
Being an aviation enthusiast, I could hardly pass up the chance to play a sentient F-16, now could I?
Probably not. Welcome aboard! Let me just add you to the cast roster...
i might be able to tackle lord page unless someone suggests a better role for me
i could have volunteered for daryil, but its better someone else already did. i just don't think i could be fabulous enough for that role even if i could ace the nutty power trip
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 26, 2009, 02:13:47 AM
i might be able to tackle lord page unless someone suggests a better role for me
I imagined you as Oskar/Ashley myself. Though it's really up to Jay.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 26, 2009, 05:00:52 AM
Quote from: Brunhidden on February 26, 2009, 02:13:47 AM
i might be able to tackle lord page unless someone suggests a better role for me
I imagined you as Oskar/Ashley myself. Though it's really up to Jay.
Let me make this perfectly clear. I love advice. I love hearing ideas like that. I have no idea what I'm doing right now, and I am gradually figuring this out. In short, if you have advice Tape, speak up. Thank you.
And Pagan was thinking of doing Pageboy. But I suppose it's about time to start figuring out who's playing who. And I'm still waiting for Amber to get back to me on if she wants to have a part.
Also, Tape, I was wondering if you could play the narrator. You or Ren. I think it would be appropriate.
I volunteer just give me something and I'll do it... although something more accent-less would be my forte
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 08:45:58 PM
Also, Tape, I was wondering if you could play the narrator. You or Ren. I think it would be appropriate.
I'd love to find out what Ren sounds like, but to be honest, I probably have the better setup for doing narration (the 'Secrets of Morrowind' series for instance, was rather well-received). Note that it will probably sound like most other characters I play, though.
Quote from: Jairus on February 26, 2009, 08:45:58 PM
Let me make this perfectly clear. I love advice. I love hearing ideas like that. I have no idea what I'm doing right now, and I am gradually figuring this out. In short, if you have advice Tape, speak up. Thank you.
If you look far enough back into the archives, there was a time (Jan 2006?) when Amber pitched in on the DMFA Radio Project, and suggested that we replace some of the cast members. That nearly broke the project, and I'm well aware that the same thing may happen here if I try to (or even appear to) overrule the guy who is truly in charge of it.
The question I have to ask is... Do you feel lucky, punk?
Well, do ya? ;-]
ok, ok. Do you see any space for me in this, or not?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 27, 2009, 12:21:46 PM
ok, ok. Do you see any space for me in this, or not?
I don't know what Jay is intending, whether to do the first arc as a single unit and then concentrate on the second, but as far as I can see, the role of Mayor Tiandrial is still open.
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 27, 2009, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 27, 2009, 12:21:46 PM
ok, ok. Do you see any space for me in this, or not?
I don't know what Jay is intending, whether to do the first arc as a single unit and then concentrate on the second, but as far as I can see, the role of Mayor Tiandrial is still open.
I was thinking we'd try to get through them a strip at a time, and then organize them into the chapters as we get through them. Sort of like how DMFA is going. If we do it as strips, it'll probably be easier to go in and fix them up.
*goes to add Boxy and his new part to the front page*
Quote from: Jairus on February 27, 2009, 12:34:45 PM
I was thinking we'd try to get through them a strip at a time, and then organize them into the chapters as we get through them. Sort of like how DMFA is going. If we do it as strips, it'll probably be easier to go in and fix them up.
Well, the DMFA radio project doesn't really have a fixed schedule... I'll be honest, a lot of the time it's been more "Ooh, that's cool, let's do that one!", particularly when I get score in my head. Notable example of this are Albanion, Abel's return home after the battle, and Dan going evil in the latest set.
Things are a bit more organised when a full production is scheduled, though, which I'm hoping to ramp up to over the next few months. That will hinge on getting more voices from Mystiqe and James, though.
Quote*goes to add Boxy and his new part to the front page*
Don't be too hasty - he might not
want to play the mayor :P
He asked. I'm ambivalent, but can provide short parts, so meh.
Besides, how can you resist it when you're offered "Mayor Tiandrial. And probably any other despots we need." ? ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 27, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
He asked. I'm ambivalent, but can provide short parts, so meh.
Besides, how can you resist it when you're offered "Mayor Tiandrial. And probably any other despots we need." ?
Shocking thing, you can turn me down. I'm not trying to make you uncomfortable, Boxy.
Quote from: Jairus on February 27, 2009, 06:53:40 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 27, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
Besides, how can you resist it when you're offered "Mayor Tiandrial. And probably any other despots we need." ?
Shocking thing, you can turn me down. I'm not trying to make you uncomfortable, Boxy.
Dammit. I missed something. *edits*
Edit:
There. Much better. *grin*
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 27, 2009, 05:30:46 AM
If you look far enough back into the archives, there was a time (Jan 2006?) when Amber pitched in on the DMFA Radio Project, and suggested that we replace some of the cast members. That nearly broke the project, and I'm well aware that the same thing may happen here if I try to (or even appear to) overrule the guy who is truly in charge of it.
Hmm... that's not how quite I remember it. Amber mentioned the Radio Project in a rant which featured some choice criticism of my Jyrras portrayal. >:] That lead to a forum discussion about how the voices in the project sounded nothing like the voices in her head. Then the project, which up until that point had been operating on a first come, first served basis with respect to roles, finally opened up for auditions. Which didn't go anywhere. Amber wished us well but declared that she wanted nothing to do with the project. And then everything returned to business as usual. :animesweat
That experience doesn't necessarily translate to this one. The original creator of the intellectual property (i.e. you) is involved from the outset, lending this project a legitimacy that the DMFA RP is never going to have. Like it or not, that also means that we'll be looking to you for guidance on how the characters should act and sound, even though Jairus is in charge of production. The project director may have final say, but creator input usually makes adapted works better, not worse.
On an unrelated matter... How the heck do you pronounce "Daryil"?
Quote from: Tezkat on March 01, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
Hmm... that's not how quite I remember it. Amber mentioned the Radio Project in a rant which featured some choice criticism of my Jyrras portrayal. >:] That lead to a forum discussion about how the voices in the project sounded nothing like the voices in her head. Then the project, which up until that point had been operating on a first come, first served basis with respect to roles, finally opened up for auditions. Which didn't go anywhere. Amber wished us well but declared that she wanted nothing to do with the project. And then everything returned to business as usual. :animesweat
Maybe I am misremembering/misinterpreting it. What I took away from that experience was that we almost lost one of our most talented actors because Amber didn't like his rendition of Jyrras :P
QuoteThat experience doesn't necessarily translate to this one. The original creator of the intellectual property (i.e. you) is involved from the outset, lending this project a legitimacy that the DMFA RP is never going to have. Like it or not, that also means that we'll be looking to you for guidance on how the characters should act and sound, even though Jairus is in charge of production. The project director may have final say, but creator input usually makes adapted works better, not worse.
Yes, I don't have a problem with that - I just don't want to end up taking the thing over by proxy, that's all.
QuoteOn an unrelated matter... How the heck do you pronounce "Daryil"?
Da-Rill. Where 'Da' is pronounced as in 'Dalmatian' or 'Daniel'. I think there's only one way to pronounce 'Rill'...
In other news, I'll announcing a new strip very soon.
Quote from: Tezkat on March 01, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 27, 2009, 05:30:46 AM
If you look far enough back into the archives, there was a time (Jan 2006?) when Amber pitched in on the DMFA Radio Project, and suggested that we replace some of the cast members. That nearly broke the project, and I'm well aware that the same thing may happen here if I try to (or even appear to) overrule the guy who is truly in charge of it.
Hmm... that's not how quite I remember it. Amber mentioned the Radio Project in a rant which featured some choice criticism of my Jyrras portrayal. >:] That lead to a forum discussion about how the voices in the project sounded nothing like the voices in her head. Then the project, which up until that point had been operating on a first come, first served basis with respect to roles, finally opened up for auditions. Which didn't go anywhere. Amber wished us well but declared that she wanted nothing to do with the project. And then everything returned to business as usual. :animesweat
That experience doesn't necessarily translate to this one. The original creator of the intellectual property (i.e. you) is involved from the outset, lending this project a legitimacy that the DMFA RP is never going to have. Like it or not, that also means that we'll be looking to you for guidance on how the characters should act and sound, even though Jairus is in charge of production. The project director may have final say, but creator input usually makes adapted works better, not worse.
On an unrelated matter... How the heck do you pronounce "Daryil"?
I got news for you no one's voices for the characters sound the same as they do in your head.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 03, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
I got news for you no one's voices for the characters sound the same as they do in your head.
I think Tezkat knows that.
Apologies for the relative silence in this thread, but real life has taken precedence for the next week or so. How dare it? I'll just post something random to keep the thread alive. Good gods is it already the 10th?
At this point, the following parts are still not called for...
Narrator
Joshua Oswald - British dialect, a bit like James Bond
Kristofer Ausmann - possibly slight Scandinavian accent or German accent
Oskar van Erikson*
Lord Page - has a certain nobility to him, occasionally lapses and sounds like a hippy, except when he plays the Dark Master
Dorcan Ja'Fell - British dialect
Ashley Daryil*
I'll try to spread the parts around over the next two weeks, but no promises that RL won't come down on me and make me temporarily forget this thread.
And Amber, if you drop by I'm still waiting for your word on whether you're up to play Kirian.
If nobody has dibs on Lord Page, I think I'd like to give it a shot.
well if im going for oskar you can have lord page, although now i wonder why oskar has an asterisk after it
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 10, 2009, 03:04:54 PM
well if im going for oskar you can have lord page, although now i wonder why oskar has an asterisk after it
Probably indicates it's ganged with Ashley.
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 10, 2009, 03:04:54 PM
well if im going for oskar you can have lord page, although now i wonder why oskar has an asterisk after it
Apologies, I forgot to copy this from the previous page (and remove Nilson)
"* Oskar/Ashley and Niall/Nilson will likely end up having the same voice actor for each pair."
So, whoever voices Oksar will likely also voice Ashley. Tape, meanwhile will probably end up voicing Nilson in addition to Niall.
Okay, I'll add you guys to our list of players and what parts you've got.
EDIT:
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2009, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 10, 2009, 03:04:54 PM
well if im going for oskar you can have lord page, although now i wonder why oskar has an asterisk after it
Probably indicates it's ganged with Ashley.
Bingo.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2009, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Brunhidden on March 10, 2009, 03:04:54 PM
well if im going for oskar you can have lord page, although now i wonder why oskar has an asterisk after it
Probably indicates it's ganged with Ashley.
Out of interest, what's the plan for dealing with 'Evil Azrael'? Same voice with processing?
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
Out of interest, what's the plan for dealing with 'Evil Azrael'? Same voice with processing?
Yeah, the traditional slight echo effect and deepening of the voice. Nothing as low as Evil!Albanion, but something similar. Maybe Azzy will summon some thunder effects to mark his dark triumphant entry. Oh, and an evil laugh. Gotta have one of those. But he already does. Yay!
everyone needs more maniacal laugh
Quote from: Jairus on March 10, 2009, 03:41:22 PM
Yeah, the traditional slight echo effect and deepening of the voice. Nothing as low as Evil!Albanion, but something similar. Maybe Azzy will summon some thunder effects to mark his dark triumphant entry. Oh, and an evil laugh. Gotta have one of those. But he already does. Yay!
Specifically I was thinking of the communicator, as opposed to the resurrection itself. But yes, slowing him down and adding a slight reverse echo would probably do the job. I'd be curious to know what Cog sounds like evil.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 10, 2009, 03:56:40 PM
Specifically I was thinking of the communicator, as opposed to the resurrection itself. But yes, slowing him down and adding a slight reverse echo would probably do the job. I'd be curious to know what Cog sounds like evil.
I do believe I tried out for Aniz awhile back. You'd still have the recordings at home, I imagine. >:3
Quote from: Cogidubnus on March 10, 2009, 04:02:00 PM
I do believe I tried out for Aniz awhile back. You'd still have the recordings at home, I imagine. >:3
Found it on the mac - I'll have to move it over to the main machine. Very slick and bitter sounding... I think you'd do it pretty well. The recording did have a lot of popping problems, but that can be overcome.
so after cogi and i pick does that leave much of a challenge to fill the remaining roles?
Well, I haven't shown up yet, but I will at some point. I'll voice myself.
Quote from: James StarRunner on March 14, 2009, 07:50:18 PM
Well, I haven't shown up yet, but I will at some point. I'll voice myself.
Well, in the meantime, I'm sure you can voice someone else. Anyone you're interested in?
Quote from: James StarRunner on March 14, 2009, 07:50:18 PM
Well, I haven't shown up yet, but I will at some point.
In about 7 years :<
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 14, 2009, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: James StarRunner on March 14, 2009, 07:50:18 PM
Well, I haven't shown up yet, but I will at some point.
In about 7 years :<
If you did slightly shorter strips, you guys could probably update twice a week or something like that. On the other hand, yay, we have a goal: get James' character introduced within seven years! How hard could that be?
You guys don't have to rush for my sake. I'd be half tempted doing other roles right now, but it may be selfish of me since I haven't caught up on the other characters I voice (mostly Dan).
Quote from: Jairus on March 14, 2009, 07:58:04 PM
If you did slightly shorter strips, you guys could probably update twice a week or something like that.
What we're effectively doing is three DMFA updates, but combined into in a single page instead of three. I originally wanted to do two such updates a week, but it soon became apparent that Ren wouldn't easily be able to do that.
QuoteOn the other hand, yay, we have a goal: get James' character introduced within seven years! How hard could that be?
Quite easy if I hand you the scripts - then you can record a whole chapter at once :P
Quote from: James StarRunner on March 14, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
You guys don't have to rush for my sake. I'd be half tempted doing other roles right now, but it may be selfish of me since I haven't caught up on the other characters I voice (mostly Dan).
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to hearing your take on the Regina speech...
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 14, 2009, 08:06:50 PM
QuoteOn the other hand, yay, we have a goal: get James' character introduced within seven years! How hard could that be?
Quite easy if I hand you the scripts - then you can record a whole chapter at once :P
"The Project Future Radio Show has just released it's fortieth chapter! Meanwhile, Project Future is on its twelfth."
I apologize for that. True, though, the scripts would work, but wouldn't that be spoiling things for those who - like me - don't know what's coming up?
Quote from: Jairus on March 14, 2009, 08:12:20 PM
I apologize for that. True, though, the scripts would work, but wouldn't that be spoiling things for those who - like me - don't know what's coming up?
And this is why I haven't actually given them over :P
Also, I have tended to edit the dialogue a bit to fit the strips, made last minute improvements and so on.
**EDIT**
For future reference, the Radio Project people may wish to know that in panel 3 of page 55, Niall has called the base PA system since Daryil isn't wearing a watch. Hence there will probably be some echo and a little bit of clipping on the voice. Also, the extra speaker in panel 6 is Ashley.
purple hair?... I mean uh, I still want to participate.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 15, 2009, 12:58:15 AM
purple hair?... I mean uh, I still want to participate.
Not a problem, I'll just add you to the player's list.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on March 15, 2009, 12:58:15 AM
purple hair?... I mean uh, I still want to participate.
See this thread:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,5770.msg269097.html#msg269097
I was 90% sure llearch would give me purple hair by morning.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 15, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
I was 90% sure llearch would give me purple hair by morning.
Nuts. I hate being predictable.
Just a quick announcement to not only announce Boxy as our current Joshua, but that this project is still on. Hopefully, we hope to have something up at some point in the not-too-distant future.
Quote from: Jairus on April 01, 2009, 05:27:20 PM
Just a quick announcement to not only announce Boxy as our current Joshua, but that this project is still on. Hopefully, we hope to have something up at some point in the not-too-distant future.
Sweet. I was going to ask how you were doing there. Let me know if you need me to run up some generic wind sound effects or something.
You gonna blow on the mic? :B
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 07, 2009, 11:05:15 AM
You gonna blow on the mic? :B
I used this: http://www.vintagesynth.com/waldorf/pulse.php
If I remember correctly, the patch I created uses a white noise source and the filter resonance turned up so it goes into self-oscillation. From there I just play around with the cutoff frequency and it gives you a reasonably good howling gale. I've done this on "Warrior for Hire" (strip 144), "Recipe for disasters" (strip 306), and at the end of "Project Dragonsong" on my "Mythical Creatures Exhibition" album.
I suspect this is what the Radiophonic Workshop used to do in the 70s.
If any openings pop up, I'd love to know.
Drop me a line if I can be nudged in somewhere.
Translation:
If an opening presents itself, I'd love to help!
ditto.
No pokemon allowed in Lost Lake! Especially Ditto!
*gets Alexi's mallet* :3
It's been a bit quiet around here, so I figured I'd post a few clips of the kitties. :kittycool
Here's Panther L-TRK (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Panther%20L-TRK%20017.mp3) from Chapter 2.
I finally opted for less of a Stephen Hawking thing and more of a soft, "I'm sorry Dave..." delivery. You can make him sound even more robotic with filters and such. Here's a version with a bit of flanger added (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Panther%20L-TRK%20017%20(Flanger).mp3).
And here's his big bro (http://dmfa.tezkat.com/temp/Tezkat%20-%20Panther%20R-MAC%20017-018.mp3), from the same scene.
Yeah. He's a panther. He's big. He's black. We get it. But it's a super fun voice to do. >:]
Apart from the flanger, those are otherwise raw clips. Could probably use at least some compression and EQ...
I might try Dayril if Tezkat and Tape don't mind...
Quote from: Tezkat on May 23, 2009, 03:45:51 AM
It's been a bit quiet around here, so I figured I'd post a few clips of the kitties. :kittycool
Apart from the flanger, those are otherwise raw clips. Could probably use at least some compression and EQ...
I may do the final assembly myself if Pagan sends me the project. It's easier to add those effects with a multitrack system than in Audacity IME. Either that or we investigate using
Traverso (http://traverso-daw.org/) instead of Audacity as a full-fledged DAW.
I haven't tried it, but it looks promising. Most importantly it will run on the Holy Trinity (Windows, Linux, MacOS)
By the way, what flanger did you use for that? It worked very well.
Quote from: Zedd on May 23, 2009, 04:30:16 AM
I might try Dayril if Tezkat and Tape don't mind...
As I understand it, llearch is looking at that role. I thought Tezkat would make a good Joshua, but apparently he's a bit pressed for time for such a big role - though Joshua tends to be more of a background character after chapter 11. I dunno what the latest is there, but if I have any say in the matter I'd prefer to have a good actor who can do a good English accent.
Either way, this comic has no shortage of male characters owing to my relative inability to create decent female ones.
EDIT:
At the end of the day, you're quite welcome to give Daryil a try - no promises that it'll be used, though.
As Tapewolf says, you're welcome to try out for it. After all, I might not get a chance to record anything for it for a while - I have a few other calls on my time, particularly at present.
In other words, if you get tapped, I shall applaud for you. If you don't, in favour of me, I shall commiserate with you. Either way, no offence will be taken. ;-]
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 23, 2009, 06:45:10 AM
By the way, what flanger did you use for that? It worked very well.
DJ Flanger on default settings (LFO sync 1, LFO period 1s, LFO depth 4ms, Feedback 0%). It sounded okay, so I didn't bother with further fiddling. I had a bunch of fun presets for robot voices on my box at home, but I couldn't remember what they were. :animesweat
Quote
As I understand it, llearch is looking at that role. I thought Tezkat would make a good Joshua, but apparently he's a bit pressed for time for such a big role - though Joshua tends to be more of a background character after chapter 11. I dunno what the latest is there, but if I have any say in the matter I'd prefer to have a good actor who can do a good English accent.
I've recorded lines from Chapter 1 to demo for Josh, but I don't know how they turned out yet. I couldn't make him work in a manly man James Bond voice. He spends even more time doing the :dface face than Jyrras does. :animesweat I did do a bunch in a Sean Connery voice for the lulz, but that's probably just outtake fodder. :3
Essentially, what I explained to Jairus is that I'm out of town for about 3/4 of the month until early fall. So... no sexy condenser mic, no pretty recording box, no pro audio software. I'd almost certainly become the project bottleneck in a major role. Josh has a lot of lines in the first ten chapters before he fades into the background. Daryil, on the othe hand, is the other way around. He's only got little snippets of dialogue until his coming out party, which is way down the line when I'll presumably be more settled.
What I've been doing is letting stuff queue up and then sitting down for an hour or two a month to record all of it in one go when I have access to my gear--but not actually doing any review or editing. I just do a quick DNR pass and dump it on a portable HD for fixing up to post later. In Audacity, mind you. I don't have Audition on my laptop, so I'm missing all my nice custom presets. I've also yet to find a free dynamics plugin with the kind of functionality that Audition's offers.
The R-MAC recording could use a little filtering, I think. Needs a bit more weight...
Quote from: Zedd on May 23, 2009, 04:30:16 AM
I might try Dayril if Tezkat and Tape don't mind...
More options wouldn't be a bad thing. Neither llearch nor I even have auditions up yet... :animesweat
http://rapidshare.com/files/236525037/Lord_D.wav.html I did only a few lines..Don't mind the buzzing it's the computer fan and the only mic I have now is a USB kind now...
Quote from: Zedd on May 23, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
http://rapidshare.com/files/236525037/Lord_D.wav.html I did only a few lines..Don't mind the buzzing it's the computer fan and the only mic I have now is a USB kind now...
This is also USB mic:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/37506/
...anyway. There are a number of popping and breathing sounds in the recording as presented. As for the voice... it could come in handy, but it doesn't sound like Daryil to me. I imagine him being higher pitched myself.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 24, 2009, 06:23:55 AM
Quote from: Zedd on May 23, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
http://rapidshare.com/files/236525037/Lord_D.wav.html I did only a few lines..Don't mind the buzzing it's the computer fan and the only mic I have now is a USB kind now...
This is also USB mic:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/37506/
...anyway. There are a number of popping and breathing sounds in the recording as presented. As for the voice... it could come in handy, but it doesn't sound like Daryil to me. I imagine him being higher pitched myself.
I could change the tone...Just give me a minute
And this is my mic http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2811419
Edit: Update! http://rapidshare.com/files/236657243/Lord_D_2.wav.html Hope this tone is better
The fan noise can be digitally removed without impacting quality too much, but the breath noises are still a problem. That's something you need to address with better recording technique.
A simple solution involves angling the mic away from you slightly. That way, you're talking across it rather than into it, and the bursts of air don't hit it directly.
It also helps to dissipate the air before it hits the mic. Holding a pencil or index finger up about an inch from your mouth can make a noticeable difference. If you're feeling more adventurous, try wrapping some pantyhose around a coat hanger and talking through that. (We call that a "pop filter". Pros use the same thing--only with a more expensive coat hanger. :3)
Tez I wish I could but really I said before my mic is a clip on and I can't do much with it..And if I move it farther away..It's too quiet
Clipped on to what though? Unless it's attached to your face like a headset mic, none of my suggestions would be significantly hampered by that style of microphone. For that matter, the finger/pencil trick even works with some headsets. If you can't reposition the mic (e.g. because it's attached to your monitor), then reposition your head instead instead...
Basically, you need to find a way to record such that the air from your mouth isn't blowing directly on the mic, because that's what causes the popping. Pops are very difficult to remove from our end, and they were fairly prominent in your recordings.
A more challenging alternative is to alter your vocalization style to generate less air puffs. That's more difficult and takes a bit of practice. Essentially, you learn how to make your P's slightly more like B's and similar techniques to reduce the impact of plosives.
It clips to my shirt but I can't put it anywhere else
How are you getting breath noises with it clipped to your shirt? Are you talking down into it?
Quote from: Tezkat on May 24, 2009, 05:54:56 PM
How are you getting breath noises with it clipped to your shirt? Are you talking down into it?
You wont hear me at alll if I don't
Hmm... that does present a challenge, doesn't it? Is there a particular reason you can't set it up anywhere else? You'd probably have more control if you just laid it on a table and talked over it...
*whistles innocently*
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6060870336b1bc2a/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60608759143e2b77/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/606088409db8a219/
:mwaha If I'm not going to be selected for anything, I figure why not.
Quote from: Zedd on May 24, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
Quote from: Tezkat on May 24, 2009, 05:54:56 PM
How are you getting breath noises with it clipped to your shirt? Are you talking down into it?
You wont hear me at alll if I don't
That sounds awkward, if not painful if done long term.
Quote from: Tezkat on May 24, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
Hmm... that does present a challenge, doesn't it? Is there a particular reason you can't set it up anywhere else? You'd probably have more control if you just laid it on a table and talked over it...
Or how about...
hold it with one of your hands. Hold it near, but off to one side of your mouth so it's out of the plosive air path. Most headset boom mics use this method (the side position, not the hand-mount).
I'd consider doing an infrequent (even single page/panel only) male voice if you need a boring middle-American accent for a seldom seen/heard character. I haven't seen many of these yet so far but I suppose there may be some coming up (workers, villagers, whatever). I'm not looking for a frequently recurring (or exciting) role.
Unlike the DMFA radio project, I'm not hearing so many British accents here lately in the samples.
I attempted a few characters like Page and the judge in the dream, but I don't think I've come up with any good voices yet. So I may just do some very minor characters like one of the people in the jury or something until James comes.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 27, 2009, 07:42:20 PM
*whistles innocently*
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6060870336b1bc2a/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/60608759143e2b77/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/606088409db8a219/
:mwaha If I'm not going to be selected for anything, I figure why not.
Jacob sounds a little like a redneck or something here. :mwaha
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 28, 2009, 02:00:30 AM
I'd consider doing an infrequent (even single page/panel only) male voice if you need a boring middle-American accent for a seldom seen/heard character. I haven't seen many of these yet so far but I suppose there may be some coming up (workers, villagers, whatever). I'm not looking for a frequently recurring (or exciting) role.
Unlike the DMFA radio project, I'm not hearing so many British accents here lately in the samples.
Unless someone has been lax in editing the list up front of the thread, we're still looking for someone to play Ashley. If that's too big, Gabriel could probably do it with the voice he demoed for Joshua (but not the redneck voice - that made me cringe).
EDIT:
Actually, Ashley's a Siberian Lynx, so maybe Ren should voice him >:3
But... I liked the redneck Jakob... :mowtongue
Quote from: Tezkat on May 28, 2009, 02:09:39 PM
But... I liked the redneck Jakob... :mowtongue
I am
not voicing Jakob as a redneck. Now, as Mr. Popo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW7HT0H-vpo&feature=channel_page), that I would consider...
And apologies for the lack of interaction here: I'm down to my last few weeks of school here. I shall soon be active here again! But school comes first.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 28, 2009, 02:00:30 AM
Unlike the DMFA radio project, I'm not hearing so many British accents here lately in the samples.
I'm so sorry for going off on holiday. :-P
hey all... I still want to do my comic as a radio show too... http://www.grllv.com... (not an advertsement) would any of you be interested in doing voices for any of the cast? I'm tacking it in here because the original thread died after one response in the tower of art and no one seemed really interested. :kruger by hijacking an existing thread the odds of this one dissapearing are not as likely.