So he IS gay for Abel.
I would have thought that was a given.
Defently a given
Please. Obviously he's just mad cause Abel got higher grades on the SATs, thus Devin's dad beat him, leading to a lesser known life of crime where blue boy had to pretend to be an angel prostitute to gain entrance into big businesses and swipe company secrets.
Geeze.
That's what happens when you get a 6 on your GEDs.
Huh... I can't believe it. He's quite possibly gay for Abel. I never thought I'd say that with any level of seriousness...
Abel: Why did you throw rocks at me?
Devin: It's non of your business, even though it has everything to do with you.
Abel: Ok! :3
?
Its a love hate relationship people and congrats Amber....
Again this is one of those situations (like naruto) where I don't think the characters are gay. Devin probably had a horible childhood, probably a nasty older sibling or something. Children who don't grow up with siblings are not used to heckling and tickle torture, poking and titty twisters. Devin might have been treating Abel in the same way as his older Sibling(s) and may not have realized what he was doing was harmful or mean.
Edit: My sister Is The spawn of the devil !!! EVIL! My brothers for some reason are especialy nice
Gee, people sure are quick to jump on the "he loves Abel!" wagon. He's not blushing folks. He's not talking like he's embarrassed, nor acting like it. Might I suggest waiting at least until the hat is dropped before jumping on the nearest bandwagon?
DMFA Plot Rule #462: They aren't gay. Probably.
Did I say anything about being gay? I meant love hate relatisonships as friendship peoples
Hence why I said "quite possibly." The situation at hand does lend its self very much to that assumption, but it is not conclusive proof. 'Tis up to Amber to decide in the end.
Speaking of which, I'm gonna guess she's getting married this weekend?
Seriously, what's a better storyline, "Devin knows a Terrible Thing about Something that can be Dramatically Revealed Later", or "Devin is Gay for Abel"?
Don't answer that.
so cold it warms my heart. that is on strange scene. i think that lust and envy my have there role in it but i doubt if we will learn the full truth anytime soon.
Also considering Amber is going to be gone till monday...
Now... is She getting married? I just joined recently so I'm out of the loop here.
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on October 20, 2006, 10:10:10 PM
Abel: Why did you throw rocks at me?
Devin: It's non of your business, even though it has everything to do with you.
Abel: Ok! :3
?
That's what I was thinking. >>'
And I fail to see how this solidifies any claim that Devin's gay for Abel. There are other reasons for people to torment others, folks. :/
Long story short....Devin needs a hug from daddeh...But daddy wasnt there...*plays on guitar*
*snerks* Seriously. I was asking myself "How on earth is it none of Abel's business?" I'd think wanting to know why someone hates you or throws things at you is absolutely your business! Consider the following...
Person 1: Why are you stalking me and trying to take nekkid pics of me through my bathroom window?
Perverted Stalker: None of your business!
*Person 1 pulls out shotgun and blows hole in Perverted Stalker's chest*
You see? Avoiding the question can only lead to heartache! >:3
What everyone seems to be saying right now does NOT AT ALL fit with what's happening o.O
Quote from: BillBuckner on October 20, 2006, 10:26:12 PM
DMFA Plot Rule #462: They aren't gay. Probably.
You mean, "DMFA Plot Rule #462: They aren't gay. Probably. Or not. Maybe. We'll see."
If that's how things worked, we'd have far less business-celebrities in the world. Which would be a good thing.
And all those guys of you in denial who are releiving pressure through this, and you shonen-ai fangirls... Do not get with the ghey! I repeat, do not get with the ghey! They are having a conversation, and one is being a jerk! No ghey!
It's probably just some pent up secret with either parents or cubi/wing phobia...
Death by shonen-ai... still cracks me up
And he continues to be a jerk. If you make someone's childhood a hell, it is their business to know why!
Hmmm...
At first when I read the comic, I was like 'Lolz, what do mean it's not his business?', but in reading it again, I think that Devin might not actually be trying to be arbitrary, here.
Note that Devin does not say that he hates Abel right now. He says that 'it was a long time ago, we were kids'. So, it would seem that although Devin does not hate Abel now, he did indeed once, and he has some deep-seated issues about it. Remember that the principal of the school didn't like Abel either - and she had blue coloring...like Devin? Perhaps we have figured out where Devin got his attitudes toward our favorite Cubi?
Maybe Dr. Phil needs to pay them a visit. Meh.
Alternatively, he might just be gay for Abel.
Maybe he's a Cubi who decided to try and live a new life because he had a crappy life with beings picking on him :p
So one day he decided to pretend to be a being's child by replacing them at a young age and wanted to see what growing up as a being would be like.
Maybe Abel hates those who take on alternate identities because he finds out that Devin's whole life was a false identity and that false identity made his young life a living hell.
Wild speculation, but it kinda makes sense. Abel already hates Devin, and he then finds that out.
Who knows?
Of course maybe I'm just piecing a few bits of info together in the wrong way. But speculation works that way :D
Quote from: Zedd on October 20, 2006, 10:50:38 PM
Long story short....Devin needs a hug from daddeh...But daddy wasnt there...*plays on guitar*
Perhaps the priblem was that Daddy
was there- all too much...
...and Abel got th brunt of Devin's anger. :tired
That's just weird. And no, Devin is not embarrassed - in the second panel, he's doing what Abel did when he won the chance to have his very own storyline (http://missmab.com/Comics/WW05_2275.php), i.e. black rage.
I missed something. Who's Frankly? And who is he to say what is or isn't Abel's business? :B
I don't see where the whole "Devin's gay for Abel" thing is coming in. I more or less read this page as: something horrible happened to Devin in his childhood involving something with wings, maybe a demon or a cubi or what have you, and he took out his anger on Abel. Whatever happened was upsetting and he doesn't want to talk about it. Either way, he regrets it now.
*shrug*
Besides, we all know Devin's doing Xander. I mean, c'mon.
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 04:55:42 AM
Besides, we all know Devin's doing Xander. I mean, c'mon.
Maybe Abel tried to be friend with Xander and Devin didn't like that? :meh
Anyway, Devins said that he was bullying Abel because of "bad reasons". Does that mean it was weak reasons or uncomfortable reasons?
Quote from: ITOS on October 21, 2006, 05:06:27 AM
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 04:55:42 AM
Besides, we all know Devin's doing Xander. I mean, c'mon.
Maybe Abel tried to be friend with Xander and Devin didn't like that? :meh
Whether Devin is or is not gay for Abel now, assuming sexual relations between any of them when they were
eight is wholly unreasonable D:
QuoteAnyway, Devins said that he was bullying Abel because of "bad reasons". Does that mean it was weak reasons or uncomfortable reasons?
Uncomfortable ones, I'd guess.
i have no read ideal but i think that able is going to devlope a major complex due to this
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 21, 2006, 05:24:28 AM
Quote from: ITOS on October 21, 2006, 05:06:27 AM
Maybe Abel tried to be friend with Xander and Devin didn't like that?
Whether Devin is or is not gay for Abel now, assuming sexual relations between any of them when they were eight is wholly unreasonable D:
:U Your way to think amaze me.
Quote from: ITOS on October 21, 2006, 05:43:28 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on October 21, 2006, 05:24:28 AM
Whether Devin is or is not gay for Abel now, assuming sexual relations between any of them when they were eight is wholly unreasonable D:
:U Your way to think amaze me.
If that wasn't what you were implying, perhaps you should have replied to someone other than Zina. In context, it looked pretty bad :P
I'm on with the entire anger thing...
Owner kicks the dog, dog bites the cat, cat bites the mouse... etc. I'm calling that Devon's dad was either abusive or demanding, beating on the poor kid to be better than those 'monsters', or just beating on him.
And Abel was sufficiently different that Devon and the rest of the kids could gang up.
I'm guessing that at this point Devons father's dead and he's finally trying to be a better person than he was, though certain behaviour is just too deeply rooted and people keep reminding him of what a basterd he was, or his father was.
Which is just what Abel did again.
GUYS YOU'RE RIGHT DEVON WAS TOTALLY WANTING ON HIM WHEN THEY WERE BOTH SIX OH HAWT
...Right.
I'm more inclined to agree with those who said that Devin was just treating others as he'd been treated. Or maybe somebody abnormal just scared him, and Devin was just increasing the violence.
Seriously folks the whole 'gay for who ever..' sernino is getting really annoying...
but i can see something has devin in the past that properly involved him getting picked on by an older sibling or an abuseive father - or he was picking on abel just cause he was different
anyone thought that it was just plain bullness - and now hes regerting it
Hmm, I hadn't even thought about the aspect of time passing... So it's safe to assume Devin wasn't gay for Abel that that point. And I am now completely terrified of anyone thinking otherwise.
*waits patiently for next Saturday before speculating any further*
Surprisingly (wait, what...?) DigitalMan is the only one here who has caught the real idea as of yet...
Talking about jumping to conclusions.
Devin could have had thousands of bad reasons on why he did what he did. In a way it looks like he's trying to reconsile what he did in the past but also in a way he's trying to forget it. I have years I want to forget because I hated them.
for instance...
1- the other students/teachers/family could have been pressuring him to do what he did because Abel was diffrent
2- Devin could have wanted to be with the 'in' cround and therefore picked on Abel because that was what they were doing
one more reason why I don't like humans
"Love" is often a very different thing in the mind of a child than it is to an adult. Little kids can have crushes on other little kids, they're just not sexual in nature (normally anyway. If they are, then something's very wrong at home.) Trust me, I had a raging crush on a classmate first grade, though I didn't show my affection by throwing rocks at him. However, I knew lots of little boys who'd do just that, or other meanish things to little girls they liked. Same-gender crushes aren't unheard of either, but just because a kid has a same gender crush doesn't mean he or she will grow up to be gay.
Now, that aside, I don't think that's what's going on here is Devin being gay for Abel. I think the people pointing to Daddy might be on the right path though. It's entire possible that "Daddy" is something they have very much in common. Namely (my wild speculation follows) that outside of their very different coloration and tail hair, how much the two of them look alike? Same facial structure, same tufted ears, similar hair lines, builds (narrow shoulders and lightly muscled), height and fluffy fur. Of course, it's hard to say how much of that is Amber's style, and how much of it might be intentional. It would explain Devin's general angstyness, not to mention his career choice. (Idolizing and adopting the traits of the absent parent.) This wouldn't necessarily make their father an adulterer, btw. We don't know exactly how old either of them are; it's entirely possible Devin is slightly older and the result of pre-marital, post-adventure barmaid debauchery. (I seem to recall adventurers having a taste for that. See Exhibit A. (http://exhibit%20a.)) Even if they aren't half-brothers, they may be in some way related. Cousins from feuding branches of the same family tree, for example.
one possibility? two words: peer pressure
For all of those looking at Devin's father as potentially being abusive and the cause of his bad behavior/memories... remember most people have two parents. The father is necessarily the abusive one.
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
What I gathered from reading the strip was that Devin had his own personal issues and took it out on Abel because he was an easy target. Now he realizes he was unfair to him, but still doesn't want to talk about his own problems. He wants to put it all behind.
At least that was my interpretation.
And Devin reveals his true identity...
as ZORRO! :B
very well observed Gabi,
All this surpression of emotion by devin or anyone indeed is not good for the body or mind
we can make a thousand speculations on why Devin was picking on Abel, we can also have thousands of reasons on why he did it. but the one thing that we are forgetting is this.
In all likelyhood Devin will not explain what caused him to do what he did but he might say he was sorry but that will do little to the wounds that it caused him and what came from Devin's actions.
Men have a tendency to NOT talk about emotions and we also have a tendency to have a hard time talking about the cause of what brought on the negative emotions.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Yes guys have a hard time talking it out with anthor gent..Even I do...Well used to anyways....Yet still I dought anyone understands me at home...But gladly I hope soon Abel will help Ol' blue face
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspiciously like the principal that first School? :3
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Quite right. They aren't even the same shade of blue, and I don't see any badger heritage in Devin. In fact to be honest, I can't see any resemblance at all.
Eh, what do I know. They probably aren't. But, the plot would be delightfully, deliciously twisty if so.
Deliciously twisty!
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Then how do you explain your relationship to newspapers, lil miss black and white? D:
i agree wit mini-lion Gabi is probably right and it was a good observation. as for suppression of emotion and stuff like that that... well if anything is suppressed it will fight it's way free and cause problems along the way.
Quote from: FireKatKid on October 21, 2006, 06:45:10 PM
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Then how do you explain your relationship to newspapers, lil miss black and white? D:
I said I didn't want to talk about it. :<
Then where does the purple fit in?
*Gasp*
She's trying to bring the Mab into syndication!
I think Firekat means causes she black and white and red (read) all over...
lol funny zedd. it's an old joke bot classes are near timeless. though it truth i still don't get the syndication thing form mana. the author in bob and George wears purple but he's not syndicated with Mab is he?
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Especcially given that one's a -badger- and the other's a feline of some sort.
Quote from: Miaka on October 22, 2006, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Especcially given that one's a -badger- and the other's a feline of some sort.
That's not going to stop speculation. Especially after Jyrras.
Not that I believe they're related, I doubt they are. But speculation, especially on this forum, can't be stopped that easily.
Quote from: Gabi on October 22, 2006, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: Miaka on October 22, 2006, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: Zina on October 21, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on October 21, 2006, 11:29:52 AM
Like perhaps his mother? Of whom Devin looks suspociously like the principal that first School? :3
Edited for bad grammer.
Just because they're both -blue- doesn't mean they're related.
Especcially given that one's a -badger- and the other's a feline of some sort.
That's not going to stop speculation. Especially after Jyrras.
Not that I believe they're related, I doubt they are. But speculation, especially on this forum, can't be stopped that easily.
Hush! no words for you! *waves arm about accusingly* ...er.
Quote from: Madmann135 on October 21, 2006, 02:37:31 PM
Men have a tendency to NOT talk about emotions and we also have a tendency to have a hard time talking about the cause of what brought on the negative emotions.
Part of that (IMO, at least) is that "not talking about emotions" (or even admitting to them) is practically hard-wired into the definition of being male, in our culture...
Quote from: Gabi on October 22, 2006, 08:12:27 AM
...speculation, especially on this forum, can't be stopped that easily.
If it can be stopped at all...
I think he's hiding his emotions for Abel for some reason or another. I will wait till the hat falls for an answer. Till then I will not speculate further.
Quote from: ShiningShadow on October 23, 2006, 11:58:09 AM
Till then I will not speculate further.
You'll miss half the fun. :P
i agree. if you don't try to predict the future then you'll never get any better at it.
Quote from: e_voyager on October 23, 2006, 07:08:14 PM
i agree. if you don't try to predict the future then you'll never get any better at it.
But isn't it written
"it won't get better if you pick at it"?
That's right like vultures. Okay I will speculate here it is. I think have a huge crush on Abel and he doesn't want Abel to know about it. Why because he is extremely shy and don't know his feelings for Abel is true or not. Henceforth the rejection issues anyway as I see it it will be revealed in the next strip.
...ya know, I keep seeing one knowitall or another on the forum, talking about how Devin has a crush on Abel without putting down any evidence either to prove it sufficiently or disprove the alternative... So instead of that, I'll put down what I think. The show of emotion and the effects used especially detail something else is wrong. I think he's even crying, as shown on his right eye, unless that was just accidentally messing up the shadow over his eyes... But he does hint that the reason he was the way he was is a bad one. He never said or did anything to hint that he had any feelings for Abel other than the regret and sorrow he seems to have now. This is all negative stuff, not really the kind of reaction you'd see if this were a simple crush. Seriously. I think he wanted to consider Abel his friend, but had an image to keep up. Things are like that in real life, and I know that all too well.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 24, 2006, 07:33:24 AM
...ya know, I keep seeing one knowitall or another on the forum, talking about how Devin has a crush on Abel without putting down any evidence either to prove it sufficiently or disprove the alternative... So instead of that, I'll put down what I think. The show of emotion and the effects used especially detail something else is wrong. I think he's even crying, as shown on his right eye, unless that was just accidentally messing up the shadow over his eyes... But he does hint that the reason he was the way he was is a bad one. He never said or did anything to hint that he had any feelings for Abel other than the regret and sorrow he seems to have now. This is all negative stuff, not really the kind of reaction you'd see if this were a simple crush. Seriously. I think he wanted to consider Abel his friend, but had an image to keep up. Things are like that in real life, and I know that all too well.
I'm not claiming to be a know it all just seeing beyond the lines etc that's all. But you have a point there if the crush is evident it will show in the strip. Who knows what will Devin will finally say to Abel when this matter is said and done. I don't know either in this case I could be completely be wrong on the message is giving out to us.
You shouldn't be "beyond the lines" because as evidenced by most of your other posts about the plotlines, you end up far off from anything that would ever become a plot.
Quote from: Gabi on October 24, 2006, 06:34:39 AM
Quote from: e_voyager on October 23, 2006, 07:08:14 PM
i agree. if you don't try to predict the future then you'll never get any better at it.
But isn't it written "it won't get better if you pick at it"?
silly Gabi that pick at not predict it. also that's something from Karnak the demon of wounds philosophy not mine.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 25, 2006, 01:19:22 AM
You shouldn't be "beyond the lines" because as evidenced by most of your other posts about the plotlines, you end up far off from anything that would ever become a plot.
Touche. Maybe I do that if there's is a plot line way off of left field here and sometimes I get it right. But in my case it's very rare I get it right. That's why I over anylize the strip till I get something there. *meh* that's me
One thing comes to mind, though...
KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid :3
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on October 25, 2006, 11:40:01 AM
One thing comes to mind, though...
KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid :3
OUCH! you wound me my herald joking. Anywho I know you think Devin is not the kind of person who share feelings with anybody is that what the consensous think. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I hope this is simple enough.
I still dunno. All the signs just don't point to what everyone seems to be saying.
*nails a sign on someones house "Abel's gay..Fergeet about eet"* >:3
sighs. do i need to time travel and pull proof form some future comics to settle this? well to bad since i hate time travel. IT slowly eats away amt memory and sanity over time.
Im just stabbing in the dark like most formumnites do sometimes E and didnt we rember leave that sanity at the door?
Quote from: e_voyager on October 25, 2006, 04:22:25 PM
sighs. do i need to time travel and pull proof form some future comics to settle this? well to bad since i hate time travel. IT slowly eats away amt memory and sanity over time.
Except, YOU CAN'T. And even if you went into the future, you wouldn't be coming back.
Aridas chill. this is not the brain trust ( snide comment omitted until annoyed) this is a place to talk about the comic we enjoy a play around a but not try to bring star trek the the world as we know it.
This isn't the place to complain about my comments and put together incoherent sentences either.
Aridas, E voayger calm down lets. cool our heads and do this in a respectful and civilized manner please. I don't like it when you two go at it then it will be flamming please let's keep our focus and the topic on hand okay.
Don't police us either. I've had enough of you sucking up and telling people what to do. Especially since I've had to be told not to tell people what to do. Just get your nose out of our business, because it really doesn't have anything to do with you.
:nono
Enough. If I see anything else along this discussion path, I'm taking names to the admin forum to discuss ban lengths.
Having just gone through and rescripted the Abel story, for the last half a dozen pages, I'm thinking there is something there, and Abel should have pushed for an answer. However, I realise that in his position, it's very hard to kepe pushing fo a response - and bear in mind, the response you get may not be the one you asked for.
Interesting theories, though. I plan to wait and see, as ShiningShadow mentioned...
I can't wiat for how this story will come full circle and we all understand what Devin meant and his feelings will finally be out in the open.