Hmm, It looks like Abel is copying Dan when Aary came to visit him. Seems theres some bad blood between Abel and Pyroduck.
Pyroduck is Fnar's father.
I actually feel a little conflicted here. Abel, for all his posturing (oh and he does posture) doesn't seem like a really bad sort, he's a bit of a jerk but he's not the evil kind of person who'd want anything really bad to befall anyone. In that respect, I'd say he has a bit of 'adventurer' in him (not the kind that randomly go around killing things but the sort that look out for people, much like Devin and Xander).
Considering how Abel feels about Pyro, I'm not sure whether Pyro was all the manners of good and nifty that I'd expected him to be. I'm silently hoping that this is a case of mistaken identity but I also have a feeling that I can really see quite where this is going ...
Quote from: Netami on September 17, 2006, 11:17:40 PM
Pyroduck is Fnar's father.
No, that was Drip...unless Pyroduck IS DRIP! That's grandmother****er!
or, maybe Pyroduck had PK'ed abel another day >:3
wow. this topic lost me almost as quickly as the comic did. I expect things to make more sense when explained, but dang.
Jack references.
http://pholph.com/
Beware, he truly is a grandmother****er (Drip anyway).
Quote from: Manawolf on September 17, 2006, 11:36:59 PM
Beware, he truly is a grandmother****er (Drip anyway).
Technically it was the other way round if I'm not wrong...
::Starts up musical-::
Nah, Amber's just gonna get madder the farther this goes.
As for Pyro, either he didn't do what he did to able yet (meaning further traveling back in time), or he's looking to act nonchalant while patching up old wounds.
*looks at the knives* ...I wonder if he's bluffing this time. o_o
Very interesting... And no, I don't think he is.
You know, with the hemophobia (is that the word?) that Abel has, you think he'd have mastered maces instead of swords.
Oh, and first post on new forums! *looks around* <<
Nah, he needs a sap.
You know, taking a closer look at Pyro, and remembering from Vol. 598's Demonology lesson, it might be possible that he is a halfdragon as it is apparently possible for beings and dragons to breed together.
for all his distast for blood i don't think able is bluffing. wait are those dan's swords?
I'm worried about Lost Lake.
Or maybe the reporter won't notice the huge swords that are stuck in the walls. :paranoid
Just show the bar, bypass the back room. Everything will be fine.
that might work but i'm not sure that Dan is wise enough to do that.
Here's my take on the matter. Abel saw where this was going and decided to sneak out before it was too late. Before Pyro gets a chance to foil his plans any further, he's threatening him out. I think that the problem here for Abel is a) he doesn't like crowds or whatever one might find in the outside world, so he wants to stay secluded. Also to be mentioned is his dislike for those who use there 'cubi powers to completely change their appearance, hence his distain to help in this matter. There is also of course the matter that he may have concluded that they want him to not teach Dan more skills, but to pose as Merlitz himself.
Well... that's just my thought on the matter...
but maybe he really does know Merlitz somehow...
dun dun dunnn!!!
If it was just a matter of Abel suspecting Pyro would ask him to imitate Merlitz I doubt he would respond with a knife-fling and an ultimatum. That's more of a "Let me save you some time. No." type of situation.
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Quote from: Toric on September 18, 2006, 02:28:09 AM
...ife-fling and an ultimatum...
An old tomatoe? :B
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Don't mind me, please, continue.
Quote from: Slipdance on September 18, 2006, 12:12:49 AM
You know, with the hemophobia (is that the word?) that Abel has, you think he'd have mastered maces instead of swords.
Oh, and first post on new forums! *looks around* <<
Maces are just as bloody, you know. Except most of the blood is kept in the bruises. :P
Unless one has a Morningstar. Those're pointy. >:3
well no matter how strong his phobia is his rage allows him him to overcome that
as a dragon of rage i understand what you mean hare. that is why i left that body behimd. 3000 years and it was burning out form ober use and over powing it all the time.
Quote from: Manawolf on September 17, 2006, 11:48:41 PM
As for Pyro, either he didn't do what he did to able yet (meaning further traveling back in time), or he's looking to act nonchalant while patching up old wounds.
No I'm sure he's already done what it is able wants to savagely beat and then skin him alive for. His reaction when he spotted Abel for the first time, his compleat lack of a reaction to the attack and his admitting he knew he was in danger comming in like that all points to the fact that he knows just why Abel wants to rearrange his internal organs in aa non functional manner.
His playing up that he dosen't know able to the others just seems to say what ever it is he wants it to remain a secret. I'm starting to wonder about the quality of out flamingfowl's charactor. the first thing that sprang to mind when I saw this was Pyro is a conartist. Abel was either one of his past victums or some one he used as apawn to get at a bigger prize... Maybe even something to do with what got him booted from the library for ever. (something thats been bugging me since we found out that Abel was a librarian and he's now banned from the library) Maybe he was the assistant librairain and Pyroduck scamed him into letting him at some of the rare books, which he stole and sold off for a ton of money.
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Quote from: Slipdance on September 18, 2006, 12:12:49 AM
You know, with the hemophobia (is that the word?) that Abel has, you think he'd have mastered maces instead of swords.
Oh, and first post on new forums! *looks around* <<
Maces are just as bloody, you know. Except most of the blood is kept in the bruises. :P
Unless one has a Morningstar. Those're pointy. >:3
The words 'saber' and 'light' come to mind, not in that order, mind you.
[contrived theories]
-Pyro once set up Abel and Aary on a blind date!
-Pyro is the monster from the outpost
-Pyro was Abel's ex
[/contrived theories]
So much time for someones
Quote from: Slipdance on September 18, 2006, 12:12:49 AM
You know, with the hemophobia that Abel has, you think he'd have mastered maces instead of swords.
I think it's more a case of blood triggering flashbacks of a particular event. If Pyroduck is somehow responsible for that event, killing him might even
cure it.
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Oh, and first post on new forums! *looks around* <<
Welcome aboard. Now please report to 'The Villa' for a full greetings thread :)
Quote from: e_voyager on September 18, 2006, 12:37:36 AM
for all his distast for blood i don't think able is bluffing. wait are those dan's swords?
I agree. For the swords, Abel has the ability to store them in hyperspace and recall them at will, about the only use of magic which Dan currently approves of.
Quote from: ITOS on September 18, 2006, 01:00:30 AM
I'm worried about Lost Lake.
Or maybe the reporter won't notice the huge swords that are stuck in the walls. :paranoid
I highly doubt they're going to show off the bedrooms in the basement.
Anyway. Pyroduck has wronged Abel, and wronged him bad. Pyroduck
knows what he's done, he's just admitted it in the last panel. This could be interesting.
Im sure its something...
One interesting thing to note is that medieval Christian bishops would go into battle with huge clubs as they were not allowed 'to spill a drop of blood'. Hypercritics.
This is a test post, Im new.
So that's why Clerics are always tied to the mace!
Or was it because undead only take full damage from blunt weapons... Eh. *Shrugs*
Guys and Gals I think Pyroduck really messed up with Abel to the point of sheer rage of the sight of him :kruger. But what happens then we will get a story about that. Till then Amber will weave this story and it will be very awesome. Anywho here's my conjections throwing in the wind
1. Pyroduck is Abel lover and left him at the alter.
2. Pyroduck is selling a business and asking Abel to put gold to get in the ground floor?
3. And finally Pyro is actually Abel Biological Father :B :B
Or Pyro's real name is Esteban and he's Abel's evil twin brother who fell in love with Abel's past lover who he then killed after realizing she was pregnant with Abel's child. :U
[/Spanish soap opera]
I'm quite interested to see how this plays out.
QuoteAbel has the ability to store them in hyperspace and recall them at will, about the only use of magic which Dan currently approves of.
I was thinking Abel got into Dan's sword stash as well (, explains why no maces :) ), but that works too .. nearly forgot about that.
In the mean time, it looks to me that Wildy is helping to hide Dan's wings by plucking him...
This scene is realy flames up the story for sure. What could happen that Abel have such hate, anger agents Pyro. >:3
Well my theory is still up that Pyroduck is actualy Devin. The two chars have similiraties for sure, and we have an magical world here aren't we? So many things can happen, such with magic some figures can changed into something else.
a.) Abels story styl preaty fresh and it's leave many possible ways open yet.
b.) They know each other, and awhile now surely as i think Abel didn't left the Academy for huge ammont of time ( hundreds of years )
c.) by point b Pyroduck also not an simple being ( or awhile now not an one, since he could be transformed some how, or basicly born this way )
So the best what with i can come up is it's Devin who didn't born "normal" as Abel, and both supernature creatures from the start.
What you think about this? :)
*Charline hmms* It does seem that Pyroduck has been toying with time... but is it a future Pyroduck with whom Abel is enraged or this current version? Only time will tell! :mowhappy Either way, I'll be devouring all their souls soon enough that I may elevate to tri-wing status, so it doesn't really matter as they're all doomed. >:3
Quote from: Alondro on September 18, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
*Charline hmms* It does seem that Pyroduck has been toying with time... but is it a future Pyroduck with whom Abel is enraged or this current version? Only time will tell!
I thought we'd hit that one on the head. Last frame : Pyroduck says "that's about two more seconds than what I expected." To me that means he
knew that Abel is after his blood and/or soul. If you have some other interpretation of this remark, I be interested to hear it.
QuoteEither way, I'll be devouring all their souls soon enough that I may elevate to tri-wing status, so it doesn't really matter as they're all doomed. >:3
"What makes you think you can handle that much power, Keller?" Harry's voice was dispassionate, merely interested.
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Quote from: Alondro on September 18, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
*Charline hmms* It does seem that Pyroduck has been toying with time... but is it a future Pyroduck with whom Abel is enraged or this current version? Only time will tell!
I thought we'd hit that one on the head. Last frame : Pyroduck says "that's about two more seconds than what I expected." To me that means he knew that Abel is after his blood and/or soul. If you have some other interpretation of this remark, I be interested to hear it.
I just read it as, "I'm surprised you gave me that much time," as opposed to, "That's not how I remember it."
Quote from: ×HaZ×MaT× on September 18, 2006, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 18, 2006, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: Alondro on September 18, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
*Charline hmms* It does seem that Pyroduck has been toying with time... but is it a future Pyroduck with whom Abel is enraged or this current version? Only time will tell!
I thought we'd hit that one on the head. Last frame : Pyroduck says "that's about two more seconds than what I expected." To me that means he knew that Abel is after his blood and/or soul. If you have some other interpretation of this remark, I be interested to hear it.
I just read it as, "I'm surprised you gave me that much time," as opposed to, "That's not how I remember it."
Alondro seemed to be suggesting that Pyroduck didn't know what he'd done, because he hasn't done the deed yet. I'm saying that he knows exactly what he did, because otherwise he wouldn't have known that Abel wants to kill him.
**EDIT for great clarity**
:tired
Like i would wrote to nothing.
Don't say my theory is this much impossible not worth to comment on :mowdizzy
and about Pyro reply, he dosen't realy fear from Abel and or preaty brave or know what he's doing. I wouldn't throwing around with such sentences like that if some one just wanna slice me up with swords. :kruger
Quote from: Ice4s on September 18, 2006, 10:27:57 AM
Like i would wrote to nothing.
Well, it wasn't easy to follow. The Devin/Pyroduck theory has already been covered. I don't believe it myself, but I can't see any flaws in it either. The other points I couldn't quite make out, but I'd say Xander is a more likely candidate for a Creature.
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and about Pyro reply, he dosen't really fear from Abel and or preaty brave or know what he's doing. I wouldn't throwing around with such sentences like that if some one just wanna slice me up with swords.
The swords are for throwing and for display. Abel doesn't want to kill Pyroduck if it can be resolved peacefully, or he wouldn't have given him an ultimatum. If Abel absolutely wanted him dead, he could just use his tentacles (note, they are readied) as soon as he walked through the door. 'cubi don't really
need swords.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 18, 2006, 10:37:04 AM
Well, it wasn't easy to follow. The Devin/Pyroduck theory has already been covered. I don't believe it myself, but I can't see any flaws in it either. The other points I couldn't quite make out, but I'd say Xander is a more likely candidate for a Creature.
But if Xander is, indeed, that dalmation from SAIA, then Xander can't be Pyroduck, since Pyro was making fluttery eyelashes at Alexsi at the time Dan was being remonstrated for thinking filthily....
At least, that's how I recall it...
Sry *shots self* English is the secound language for me, so yeah. <_<
He can be a creature as well, but some why i have that feeling Devin one of them. To much similiar things between Devin and Pyro for me so far. :)
Me again. Being new i have no idea what half of the things next to the various entries mean. what exactly does karma mean?
What are the stars and what does Position: Proto-Slime meant? Sorry to be a pain and I know i probably should have read up on this but it would really help if someone could give me a quick overview.
Thanks
:ot
The Shout Out would be better suited for your question.
the think is I don't think we can take Pyro's timetraveling for granted here
we've never seen any of this in comic and his "vacation" is lasting a long time.
We've only got his word that he can travel in time, and if my theroy that he's a con artist is true then his word realy isn't worth much.
Plus if he coudl use timee why not take the party outside of the inn go back in time till the time of the kidnapping and catch biggs's people as they left
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on September 18, 2006, 10:46:27 AM
But if Xander is, indeed, that dalmation from SAIA, then Xander can't be Pyroduck, since Pyro was making fluttery eyelashes at Alexsi at the time Dan was being remonstrated for thinking filthily.
Yes. Frankly it would be rather silly* if it turned out that Devin and Xander were both 'cubi as well as Abel, they're not supposed to be that common, after all.
Quote from: thegayhare on September 18, 2006, 10:58:28 AM
We've only got his word that he can travel in time, and if my theory that he's a con artist is true then his word really isn't worth much.
We've got his word and the fact that he never loses a bet. He also seems to be collecting historical data, but there may be some other explanation for that.
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Plus if he could use time why not take the party outside of the inn go back in time till the time of the kidnapping and catch biggs's people as they left
Ever read 'Flight of the Horse'? Sven's time travel device is an extension of some extremely bulky machinery fixed in the future. It costs a million dollars a shot, and he doesn't have a great deal of control over what it does. The control panel in the extension cage simply signals the technicians in the future to start it moving, stop it and recall him when the mission is completed.
Just because he has the ability to travel in time doesn't mean that he can do it at will without any apparent cost. (Assuming it's actually true)
*That's silly as in 'breaking the suspension of disbelief' not as in 'it is lovely to be silly at the right moment'
Quote from: Netami on September 18, 2006, 06:54:47 AM
So that's why Clerics are always tied to the mace!
Yes, as far as fantasy games are concerned. Historians, though, are divided on how true the mace-priest thing really is. While perhaps less bloody than a sword, maces will still easily draw blood. The fact of the matter is that killing another person in melee combat is very often a bloody affair, and the most effective weapons are the ones that tend to be the bloodiest. It was true then, and it is true now, that there is really no way to wage a clean bloodless war. Killing people will inevitably be a messy and frightening job.
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 18, 2006, 11:05:06 AM
We've got his word and the fact that he never loses a bet. He also seems to be collecting historical data, but there may be some other explanation for that.
collecting historical data could simply be part of his cover or it's needed for what ever his scams ultimate goal is about.
never losing a bet could be the result of a few differnt things. some low level precog that lets him get the outcome before hand, A few fixed bets and letting the reputation he's built as unbeatable keep the others at bay
Hmm no I haven't read flight of the horse. But something that awkward to use and expensive wouldn't be the sort of device you'd use for your vacation would it?
now I got to thinking about what could his scam be and I came up with this. He gets close to Alexis working his way into her confidance before turning on the charm and working his way in so to speak. In the mean time he could be making subtle hints about how the bar need a few repairs, and some publicity wouldn't hurt. Alexi spends her time and money fixing up the place, Pyro ensures the magizine artical goes off well. Busniness starts booming and with Alexis distracted Pyro puts out word that the owner of the newest tourists hotspot wants to sell. Since he has access to Alexishe has access to her papers and can easily convince people he's working as her agent in this. He makes the sale, maybe more then once, and then skedaddles with the money. Leaving Dan and Alexis with some very angery and possibly influantal people who are telling them they don't own there inn anymore
Hmmmmmmmmmm you are maybe right on this one. then Pyroduck is a con artist, then we should warn Dan and the others on this. If he pull this one off then the LostLake Inn will be no more. But I know the guys here in DMFA and they are pretty intelligent if something like this is amiss here. :meh I 'm just babbling here.......
Quote from: thegayhare on September 18, 2006, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 18, 2006, 11:05:06 AM
We've got his word and the fact that he never loses a bet. He also seems to be collecting historical data, but there may be some other explanation for that.
Hmm no I haven't read flight of the horse. But something that awkward to use and expensive wouldn't be the sort of device you'd use for your vacation would it?
It might be, if it it wasn't so expensive. They might have given him a couple of months or so in the past. Anyway, the point is that Pyroduck probably can't time-travel of his own accord - he's been dumped in the past for a few months or years and then gets taken back to his own timeline. Otherwise it's very easy to introduce plot loopholes with this kind of thing, and Amber has probably covered her ass in this regard.
It's also possible that he's not
really vacationing, but actually on a mission to gather historical data.
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[Pyroduck's con trick]
Bear in mind that technically Alexsi is not the owner of the tavern, it belongs to Edward, Destania, Alexsi and Dan in order of succession. That wouldn't make any difference to your scam anyway, since he'd be selling it under false pretences.
The other thing to remember is that we only have Pyro's word that it's a vacation - nobody really knows what he's doing here, we're just guessing, as several people have noted.
Myself, I'd prefer to think that he *was* on the up-and-up, since that provides more plot hooks to hang stories on, but the Abel reaction makes it very hard to argue for such a situation...
This might just be Amber's style of drawing... but take a real good look at Devin and Pyroduck in these strips
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol682.jpg
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel45.jpg
And take a good look at Pyro's cast picture
http://www.missmab.com/Cast/Images/04_Pyro.jpg
1: Devin and Pyro have the exact same eye color
2: Their front locks falls over the headband... exactly the same.
3: Both Devin and Pyro have wrist bracelets
Possibility?
Devin and Pyro are the same person. The bracelets Pyro has now "could" hold some of Jy Jy's patches.
Alternatively, Devin is a cubi and Pyro is his shapeshifted form.
:U Well now...So this how my moms shows are made
The other thing that's not explained by this is how Pyro could hit on Alexsi, if Devin is Furrae's biggest muncher?
*innocent look*
I think I know what's really going on here but I'm not going to say >:3
Quote from: je.saist on September 18, 2006, 01:13:26 PM
Possibility?
Devin and Pyro are the same person. The bracelets Pyro has now "could" hold some of Jy Jy's patches.
Alternatively, Devin is a cubi and Pyro is his shapeshifted form.
That would explain Abel's rage towards him yeah.
Fascinating strip...quite curious as to how more connections with Abel seem to be arising.
That, and the many, many unproved theories that spring up with it. =p
On a funny note...anyone else notice that the title bar is referencing a pretty messed-up Flash movie? :3
Quote from: Lone_Wolf on September 18, 2006, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: je.saist on September 18, 2006, 01:13:26 PM
Possibility?
Devin and Pyro are the same person. The bracelets Pyro has now "could" hold some of Jy Jy's patches.
Alternatively, Devin is a cubi and Pyro is his shapeshifted form.
That would explain Abel's rage towards him yeah.
If you find a side-view, you'll notice that Devin and Pyro have very different muzzles. If Pyro is using a patch, it's more likely to be the tail-band which he never removes, IMHO.
Although as someone mentioned, it could equally well be the time device.
As for Devin being Pyro, I'm not convinced. Abel's had a lot of grief from Devin as a kid, but they aren't kids anymore in the current Abel's Story era. Devin has
saved Abel from Xander and countless other adventurers. Unless he does something totally evil later on, e.g. killing one of his friends, that order of magnitude, I don't see why Abel should fly into a killing rage according to the evidence we have so far.
Charlie is messed up?
But... But... Unicorns! And Candy! And Unicorns! And Candy! And a quest!
I mean, how can you get better than that?
I wonder what flash movie that be...
Just to get it out there, I do like the introduction of serious dramatic... stuff in the main comic. Sweetness.
Some of these speculations make some rather broad assumptions based on the Abel story arc; now, I have no idea how Amber contrives her main plot, she may do it on the fly, plan it out weeks, months, or years in advance or she may have the whole thing written down in plain english. However, if the latter is more true, than we have to make the assumption that Amber didn't nessecarily decide to make a connection between the Abel arc and the current story. If there IS a connection, it's definitely going to answer some questions, but present new ones!
The plot is getting thicker, if you ask me.
Quote from: je.saist on September 18, 2006, 01:13:26 PM
This might just be Amber's style of drawing... but take a real good look at Devin and Pyroduck in these strips
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol682.jpg
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel45.jpg
And take a good look at Pyro's cast picture
http://www.missmab.com/Cast/Images/04_Pyro.jpg
1: Devin and Pyro have the exact same eye color
2: Their front locks falls over the headband... exactly the same.
3: Both Devin and Pyro have wrist bracelets
Possibility?
Devin and Pyro are the same person. The bracelets Pyro has now "could" hold some of Jy Jy's patches.
Alternatively, Devin is a cubi and Pyro is his shapeshifted form.
This is what exactly poked my eye what you show, thank you je.saist :)
I bet Devin and Pyro the same person.
If there are conection between the two stories thats make things even more interesting and will be oil to the fire of the whole era, as realy would make the story even more better. :)
You know, it's quite possible that Pyro was simply tactless. Abel wasn't completely thrilled about having to leave saia and teach Dan. This could just be him avoiding the responcability.
On a side note, I laughed when I saw this one's title page. I just freaked out my Parents by making them watch Charlie the Unicorn last night.
Doesn't Fa'Lina have similar coloured eyes?
I was wondering if there is any connection between the yellow/gold eye colour and the undead (who have glowing yellow eyes) Maybe on reaching a certain level of power the aging process slows down to a crawl (or stops entirely)
possible but not very likely. if that were true then almost all older cubi would have golden eyes. that any Pyroduck's eyes used to be blue so thats could be an impostor as well. don't belive me? look at him in comic 116
edit: and before that while he was writing in her journal his eyers were purple. i think it was in (91) before the Lorenda- Jyrras arc. and before (74) that still his eyes were brown. is there only one Pyroduck or are are there a team of them?. they power of the archive rules.
Quote from: thegayhare on September 18, 2006, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 18, 2006, 11:05:06 AM
We've got his word and the fact that he never loses a bet. He also seems to be collecting historical data, but there may be some other explanation for that.
collecting historical data could simply be part of his cover or it's needed for what ever his scams ultimate goal is about.
never losing a bet could be the result of a few differnt things. some low level precog that lets him get the outcome before hand, A few fixed bets and letting the reputation he's built as unbeatable keep the others at bay
Hmm no I haven't read flight of the horse. But something that awkward to use and expensive wouldn't be the sort of device you'd use for your vacation would it?
now I got to thinking about what could his scam be and I came up with this. He gets close to Alexis working his way into her confidance before turning on the charm and working his way in so to speak. In the mean time he could be making subtle hints about how the bar need a few repairs, and some publicity wouldn't hurt. Alexi spends her time and money fixing up the place, Pyro ensures the magizine artical goes off well. Busniness starts booming and with Alexis distracted Pyro puts out word that the owner of the newest tourists hotspot wants to sell. Since he has access to Alexishe has access to her papers and can easily convince people he's working as her agent in this. He makes the sale, maybe more then once, and then skedaddles with the money. Leaving Dan and Alexis with some very angery and possibly influantal people who are telling them they don't own there inn anymore
Hnn...dunno. Remember the calander picture for December? The Pyro and Alexsi cuteness? *slinks off*
You think that's changed? Go back to 113 and 91, and his eyes are black and purple, respectively. In 74 they're yellow again.
Skipping forwards, in 184, 185, 193, they're yellow. In 222 they're squinting, so you can't tell. 235, 263, 270, 311, yellow. 390, they're a bit small, but still yellow. Likewise 393. 432, 482, 484, 485, 556, yellow. 679, he has his eyes shut. 680 and 682, obviously yellow.
Sunny Chiba has yellow glowing eyes, too... (129 or so)
I think the eye thing was more an issue of me sucking and not double-checking the eye colour in between drawing him. Either way, I'd avoid trying to tie in any speculation to Pyroduck's eye colour. Eye-colours in DMFA are usually chosen at random to however I think looks nicest.
it is well done and i though that it may be radome or some think like that. widly and her bother have the same color eyes and it's the same with dan and his mother. so i thoug famly ore clan ties could be part of it too.
Quote from: Amber Panyko on September 18, 2006, 08:36:00 PM
I think the eye thing was more an issue of me sucking and not double-checking the eye colour in between drawing him. Either way, I'd avoid trying to tie in any speculation to Pyroduck's eye colour. Eye-colours in DMFA are usually chosen at random to however I think looks nicest.
Plus shifting eye colours are the best way to throw fans into random speculations as to who the characters may or may not be! :mwaha
I'm truely amazed at how many times eyecolor has been brought up to try to prove or disprove links between chars.
I mean able and cid came up several times
and eye color has been used to link random people in the backgrounds to main chars
My mom has brown eyes.
... *Gasp*
I AM MY OWN MOM!
so this is not a first? man i need to arcien this arubmesn so that ui can have a bais for speculation.
Quote from: thegayhare on September 18, 2006, 09:36:45 PM
I'm truely amazed at how many times eyecolor has been brought up to try to prove or disprove links between chars.
I mean able and cid came up several times
and eye color has been used to link random people in the backgrounds to main chars
Fans will always grasp at straws if it means they have a chance of somehow being related to a canon character. Well, some will. But you know how it is... the whole "Gay for Abel" thing. ;)
Quote from: MT Hazard on September 18, 2006, 06:23:46 AM
One interesting thing to note is that medieval Christian bishops would go into battle with huge clubs as they were not allowed 'to spill a drop of blood'. Hypercritics.
This is a test post, Im new.
On a related note, the followers or Kali are also not allowed to spill the blood of the people that are to be sacrificed to her, the belief is that everything of the sacrifice belongs to her, even the blood. Stangulation and blunt force trauma is the preffered method of killing during ritualistic sacrifice.
I'm surprised no one has brought up the possibility that Pyro could also just as easily be Aary in disguise, or Dark pegusus, or Fa'lina on a vacation in her adventurer disguise. and she was posing as Pyroduck because she knew all along where Destina was and that Dan was her child....
Has anyone seen Pyroduck and Fa'lina Together? I don't think so.
*doesn't feel like reading the thread*
Obviously Abel's just jealous of Pyro's hair. He wants more color on his body.
I do believe Pyroduck was a real person's character at one point in time. That suggests to me that the "Amber original character X in disguise" theory is unlikely to be true.
The important part of that statement is "at one time." Pyroduck's character as pretty prominent in Lost Lake, sure, but he's not been around and pretty much "sold his soul" to amber so she's going to do what she sees fit. I don't think it's beyond the scope of probability (some of the theories so far have been retarded, give me a break) that she'd have him be another character in disguise. After all, he's been Pyroduck for a long time, he's a new person.
*Erfs at TGH* Nuuuuu! That's too much of a possibility! Never say things that could actually be true! Pyroduck is not a CIA operative! That's not what it is! He's not a Cubi Intelligence Agency spy! Ack! *She's hit with a blowdart, rendered instantly unconscious, and then is dragged away by unknown persons in the shadows...* :mowdizzy
Wonders what he's getting Erf'd for, the con man theroy, or the eye color complaint*
Well I dont know women too well ya know..They are the odder deigrams of the living race of anything..
ey ey ey . you all are gooin off on more tanges then i am. an i only spout about 1/5 of the tangens that i think up
Easy enough to see.
Pyroduck is a Demon.
Look at the wings. Plus the fact that he is unconcerned about Abels threat.
He simply is confident that he can knock him on his ass in a second.
Abel knows him from living in Zinvth, the Demon city.
Has anyone considered that possibly Amber threw in the extra episodes of AS in order to bring the two stories more in sync, so that we get Pyro and Abel meeting in the main story, shortly before we get the back story on AS?
Just a thought, and just as valid as wandering through looking at eye colour. Which passed the time pleasantly for a while, at least :-)
indeed it is a vaild theory one that i was not about to state though i had thought about it.
Quote from: Zorro on September 19, 2006, 02:59:47 AM
Easy enough to see.
Pyroduck is a Demon.
Look at the wings. Plus the fact that he is unconcerned about Abels threat.
He simply is confident that he can knock him on his ass in a second.
Abel knows him from living in Zinvth, the Demon city.
Demon's arnt the only ones with wings like that. Cubi have wings like that as well as dragons.
tonight we will all know more so speculate, hyphenise and theorizes for tomorrow we learn the truth. Unless Amber is nice enough the throw up fill to let the game continue for a bit.
Quote from: e_voyager on September 19, 2006, 05:26:54 AM
tonight we will all know more so speculate, hyphenise and theorizes for tomorrow we learn the truth.
That sounds a little optimistic to me. More likely we'll get a few more datapoints and revelations, but telling everything in one strip? Doubtful. I suspect we'll either learn or get a glimpse of why Abel and Pyro are at odds, but not who or what Pyroduck is.
Quote from: thegayhare on September 18, 2006, 09:36:45 PM
I'm truely amazed at how many times eyecolor has been brought up to try to prove or disprove links between chars.
I mean able and cid came up several times
and eye color has been used to link random people in the backgrounds to main chars
If you're talking about Xander and the dalmatian at SAIA, I might point out that it was about four physical similarities - the spot pattern being most important.
Amber has now said that the Devin/Pyroduck eye colours were aesthetic, which IIRC leaves the hairstyle as the only matching point.
Quote from: Sheridan on September 18, 2006, 09:59:53 PM
Fans will always grasp at straws if it means they have a chance of somehow being related to a canon character. Well, some will. But you know how it is... the whole "Gay for Abel" thing. ;)
Man, who would want to do such an ill-conceived thing? You should try to keep them away from the canon ones, that way you can't prove it didn't happen :P
aww and here i was sure that i would get at leas a few hopes up before some one dashed it all.
Well we have tomorrow or you people will wait till past midnight to see the next strip. I'll be sleeping getting through my next dream :mowtongue........
Quote from: Tapewolf on September 19, 2006, 05:52:16 AMQuote from: Sheridan on September 18, 2006, 09:59:53 PM
Fans will always grasp at straws if it means they have a chance of somehow being related to a canon character. Well, some will. But you know how it is... the whole "Gay for Abel" thing. ;)
Man, who would want to do such an ill-conceived thing? You should try to keep them away from the canon ones, that way you can't prove it didn't happen :P
Like I said, some fans... :rolleyes
Great galloping conspiracy theories, BatMare! However, couldn't it just be that Abel's so ticked off because Pyroduck just asked him to impersonate Alexi in her absence, could it? I mean, he's a cubi, so it's well within his capabilities. Add Mab's "prettiest pink dress" and there's no reason why that wouldn't be a snap for him, at least physically.
Doesn't mean he'd like or want to do it though. :laugh
maybe but i hardly think that thats likely. the most likely cause is that they have history. in ables case negitive history
Quote from: Violet Dusk on September 19, 2006, 10:08:47 AM
Great galloping conspiracy theories, BatMare! However, couldn't it just be that Abel's so ticked off because Pyroduck just asked him to impersonate Alexi in her absence, could it? I mean, he's a cubi, so it's well within his capabilities. Add Mab's "prettiest pink dress" and there's no reason why that wouldn't be a snap for him, at least physically.
Doesn't mean he'd like or want to do it though. :laugh
You are right on this one but I like when conspiracies is throw up in the air. I can't wait for more theories from deep left field. Who knows maybe one of these theories will connect to the strip...............
But above all, people should get their facts straight before theorizing >.>
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 12:10:43 PM
But above all, people should get their facts straight before theorizing >.>
But we can't do that cause we don't have all the facts. Besides wild and unlikely speculation is all part of the forum experiance. there is oly one comic forum I visit in which this doesn't happen and trust me there is worse out there.
hare is right you know. trust it as the word form some one who visits 10 comice based forums a day
Quote from: thegayhare on September 19, 2006, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 12:10:43 PM
But above all, people should get their facts straight before theorizing >.>
But we can't do that cause we don't have all the facts. Besides wild and unlikely speculation is all part of the forum experiance. there is oly one comic forum I visit in which this doesn't happen and trust me there is worse out there.
Um, yeah, but people are getting stuff wrong that's ALREADY BEEN STATED. When I say "get the facts straight" I _MEAN_ "get the facts straight", not "know something you don't know". How is anyone supposed to speculate if I assumed everyone already knew everything?
And e, don't get involved. You understand what I said even less. Also, the number of comic forums you visit has nothing to do with anything right now.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on September 19, 2006, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 12:10:43 PM
But above all, people should get their facts straight before theorizing >.>
But we can't do that cause we don't have all the facts. Besides wild and unlikely speculation is all part of the forum experiance. there is oly one comic forum I visit in which this doesn't happen and trust me there is worse out there.
Um, yeah, but people are getting stuff wrong that's ALREADY BEEN STATED. When I say "get the facts straight" I _MEAN_ "get the facts straight", not "know something you don't know". How is anyone supposed to speculate if I assumed everyone already knew everything?
And e, don't get involved. You understand what I said even less. Also, the number of comic forums you visit has nothing to do with anything right now.
all i was saying was that due to my experience what hare said is true more often then not. it is true that some people quote and refer to comics in the archives to prove their point but in the end there really is only the decision of the authors and artists as to what is true and what is not.
any thing can seem true but prove only to be deception either planned ore not planed but the author. Dave Anniz for Bob and George is a perfect examples of this and you should have read some of our speculation of the Mynd story arc. during attack of the mega man there was wilder speculation that. this includes that mega man was programmed to be evil by doctor wily during are early game. that this mega man was form a different universe. that mega man was sot dumb that he simply forgot he was meant to be good and went evil destroy the world on his friend. there was even speculation that he was an imposter and that the person buy someone that was later seen in the strip with the evil mega man playing the drums in a rimshot during the punch line of a very horrible pun.. this last one was proven true around 4 story arcs later when we find out that he was indeed and imposter playing mega man. On top of that we find out he was the person that he was believed to be. we also find out that due to time travel the person playing the drums was also an imposter of the mega man imposter. It may seem unnessary to bring this up but this is what you were doing to hare trying to prove a point that doesn't need to be proven.
While this detail may seem unnecessary it is mealy proving a point this is what you were doing to hare. Also I'm sorry I had to post it before I was ready but the work I was on had gone out on me so I meanly run throug the commands to copy and paste the text form word were I was spell checking it to the already open post window incase the rest of the system went out next..
There's always a chance of speculation being wrong. That's part of the fun. Besides, Pyro's got too big a reputation for being an enigma not to speculate about him. I ]say it's either clairvoyance or he's from some alternate future, that he now knows for certain wont happen. That's why he's not worried about taking an intrest in Alexi somehow resulting in his ending up as his own great-great-grandfather.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 12:10:43 PM
But above all, people should get their facts straight before theorizing >.>
I don't need to keep my facts straight as long as I can keep my face straight. :kittydevious
Quote from: Boogeyman on September 19, 2006, 07:14:42 PM
There's always a chance of speculation being wrong. That's part of the fun. Besides, Pyro's got too big a reputation for being an enigma not to speculate about him. I ]say it's either clairvoyance or he's from some alternate future, that he now knows for certain wont happen. That's why he's not worried about taking an intrest in Alexi somehow resulting in his ending up as his own great-great-grandfather.
You're not supposed to speculate based on things you don't remember correctly or misheard. That'd just be stupid.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 08:36:26 PM
Quote from: Boogeyman on September 19, 2006, 07:14:42 PM
There's always a chance of speculation being wrong. That's part of the fun. Besides, Pyro's got too big a reputation for being an enigma not to speculate about him. I ]say it's either clairvoyance or he's from some alternate future, that he now knows for certain wont happen. That's why he's not worried about taking an intrest in Alexi somehow resulting in his ending up as his own great-great-grandfather.
You're not supposed to speculate based on things you don't remember correctly or misheard. That'd just be stupid.
Ah yes, but if you didn't remember correctly or misheard you wouldn't know until someone pointed it out to you, would you?
Maybe, but i'm saying it right now, someone in this room was wrong.
Was it Teroniss? e_voyager? Boogeyman? Violet Dusk? thegayhare? ShiningShadow? A mow?...
No the real answer is it's all of the above
everybunny was wrong
Everybunny? So in other words, just you. *runs off laughing maniacally*
don't you get it?it's your attitude i was talking about. thats is why i gave you a specific example. too bad his achieves are currently gone
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on September 19, 2006, 08:51:31 PM
Maybe, but i'm saying it right now, someone in this room was wrong.
Was it Teroniss? e_voyager? Boogeyman? Violet Dusk? thegayhare? ShiningShadow? A mow?...
All right let's put this to rest it was me. Okay can we go foward and speculate more..............
Hey we still don' t know if I'm wrong; all we know is Pyroduck's a dragon, and a very cool Dragon at that. :D I guess we'll find out Friday if Abel's mad because they've had a run in before, or if Pyro wants him to put on a pretty pink dress. Or both.
... or if Amber decides to stretch it out for another day, and we find otu monday or wednesday why Abel is so angry.
... or in a few months time, after a cutscene and all sorts of fun and games. Because Amber is cool like that :-) leaving us lots of threads to hang ideas on, and then not following up on them for months :-)
it is evil to temped people. i wonder if i could do that...
Well they better get Dan in that dress or he will be super plucked
I think with this arc well will get answer from amber soon. But until then we willwait and speculate *heh I made it rythme*.............