Now we know Abel's clan name. I think Siar is our first clear image of a tri-wing. Though it would seem that she's dead.
Amber is back! Hooray! :) Welcome back, and don't push yourself so hard you have another relapse, OK.
Emo Siamese! I suspect that Siar is just a memory at this point. Pity. Is that the original location of her clan symbol?
Oh how I want a Demonology 101 on all the different clans.
Anyone else interest that Fa'Lina mentioned Clans Cyra and Siar in the same breath as clans of dark emotions and deceptions? Heck, the names even look similar. Interesting... I wonder if Cyra and Siar might have been related? Time for exposition on Clan Siar, methinks.
Also, that looks like a lovely garden.
You can do it Amber! We're rooting for you!
PS: That moniker, "Clan of Woe," does nothing for Clan Siar's image.
Quote from: !KCA on April 10, 2009, 02:14:19 AM
Emo Siamese! I suspect that Siar is just a memory at this point. Pity. Is that the original location of her clan symbol?
The location of the clan symbol varies by individual. Only Amber knows if that's the same place Siar's clan symbol was before she became a tri-wing.
Quote from: Jairus on April 10, 2009, 02:26:41 AM
Anyone else interest that Fa'Lina mentioned Clans Cyra and Siar in the same breath as clans of dark emotions and deceptions? Heck, the names even look similar. Interesting I wonder if Cyra and Siar might have been related? Time for exposition on Clan Siar, methinks.
Also, that looks like a lovely garden.
You can do it Amber! We're rooting for you!
PS: That moniker, "Clan of Woe," does nothing for Clan Siar's image.
And Clan Cyra is the Clan of Pain. Not a good image either.
OK, Interesting observation. Siar's wing coloration is reflected in Anise's wings, though with a reversal. Cyra's blue, and so is Destania. I wonder if this is a consistent pattern?
Oooh Triwing!
Yay, buttwings! :mowmeep
Awesome we finaly get to see a tri-wing. Nice job Amber. I also hope for a demonolgy on clans. Also if a clan doesn't have a founder and one of their mebers becomes a tri wing does the whole clan change? Like get a new symbol as well as a new name? Then if a clan has a founder and one of the members becomes powerfull enough to become tri wing does a new seperate clan form or is that ability supressed and they have to petion the founder to break their ties to the clam before they can found a new clan?
I sense fanart coming up she's one beautiful lady. Only I bet I'd get the eye colour wrong :< Amber if you're up for looking here while you're blarghing around, is she siamese in the tradtional sense just looking kickass and Cubi?
And interesting Seme which are one that vouched for staying with Abel are one of the darker...
Ooh, she's a pretty one. :)
Welcome back Amber! Abel's clan is clan Siar, whats was Dan's clan name?
Quote from: Evil Fox on April 10, 2009, 04:19:15 AM
Welcome back Amber! Abel's clan is clan Siar, whats was Dan's clan name?
Cyra.
Quote from: Feather Dancer on April 10, 2009, 03:26:13 AM
And interesting Seme which are one that vouched for staying with Abel are one of the darker...
Not particularly surprising. After all, if Abel is locked up in misery, why waste all that lovely emotion?
I'm personally wondering if any of the volunteers had Abel's best in mind, or if they were all self-interested...
Probably the latter :) But these extra tidbits of info are always interesting given we'll probably never see them/see and be aware of it.
Incidentlly I've left a tab open with Siar she's just too damn lovely to look at but then I am pedigree cat biased.
So clan Seme has a "negative" emotional affinity. I wonder what affinity clan Uke has.
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 10, 2009, 02:13:10 AM
I think Siar is our first clear image of a tri-wing.
There are 3 other images of tri-wing out there, and for some reason they are all female. :mowhappy
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 10, 2009, 02:13:10 AM
Now we know Abel's clan name. I think Siar is our first clear image of a tri-wing.
In canon, yes. But there have been others. The calendar, for example:
http://www.missmab.com/graphics/C_October.jpg
(before you ask, the missing one is
here (http://www.missmab.com/graphics/C_Septermber.jpg))
QuoteThough it would seem that she's dead.
Indeed. A victim of the clan wars, I would imagine.
QuoteAmber is back! Hooray! :) Welcome back, and don't push yourself so hard you have another relapse, OK.
Quoted for Truth.
Quote from: AndersW on April 10, 2009, 08:30:30 AM
There are 3 other images of tri-wing out there, and for some reason they are all female.
I asked - there are male Tri-wings. It's not a girl-only thing.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 10, 2009, 02:56:14 AM
Yay, buttwings! :mowmeep
Technically they are hip-wings, but yeah.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 10, 2009, 08:36:45 AM
Quote from: AndersW on April 10, 2009, 08:30:30 AM
There are 3 other images of tri-wing out there, and for some reason they are all female.
I asked - there are male Tri-wings. It's not a girl-only thing.
But we have only seen female Tri-wings. :mowwink
Quote from: AndersW on April 10, 2009, 09:00:17 AM
But we have only seen female Tri-wings. :mowwink
Indeed. Just heading off the inference you were making :P
Anyone else wondering if, had the updates been running to schedule, Dan would have died today and been revived on Sunday?
I FINALLY after losing the last forum registered again. (been following DMFA since the Merlitz and the human arc)
Doesn't this particular cubi have FOUR freakin' wings? O__o
Quote from: Graficcha on April 10, 2009, 09:05:11 AM
I FINALLY after losing the last forum registered again. (been following DMFA since the Merlitz and the human arc)
Doesn't this particular cubi have FOUR freakin' wings? O__o
Six. Most 'Cubi have four, except for immature 'Cubi who just have the two on the back. Tri-wing founders have six.
Welcome aboard, don't forget to read the rules. Have fun, etc...
*giggle* will do x°
I should learn not to go *objection!point* at stuff like this, you guys are experts :3 *pops back to work on stuff*
Quote from: Graficcha on April 10, 2009, 09:11:51 AM
I should learn not to go *objection!point* at stuff like this, you guys are experts :3
On the other hand it does mean I'm sad enough to have spent years studying the comic :rolleyes
EDIT:
Also,
do question me. I'm not trying to be a definitive authority figure on this, and even if I
was, there is a lot of guesswork involved and a fair amount of it may be wrong.
One thing I have to say to AndersW [Haven't figured out how to quote yet]: Buahg...That is the worst inference I have ever heard. Never say anything like that again. By the way, does anyone know any other Tri-Wing traits? Like, say they do determine their descendant's colors of wings and body?
I like how deftly Amber solved the PG-14 rating thing with Siar, having two little stickers that cover just her nipples. Very heavy handed. I mean, what's the point? Her wingspan isn't even very..."perky"
Sorry for all the bad jokes
p.s. Does anyone know where Cyra's symbol was on her body before it was so rudely censored?(Just kidding, that was proper, not rude)
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 10, 2009, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: Graficcha on April 10, 2009, 09:11:51 AM
I should learn not to go *objection!point* at stuff like this, you guys are experts :3
On the other hand it does mean I'm sad enough to have spent years studying the comic :rolleyes
<== *is a semi-expert at everything but fails at all of those when it comes to details and 'wake up for banana's sake*
Heck, I've spent two years lurking of Lab 305 on Gaia and am now a three-year thread regular *rolls*
DMFA I've known since pretty much the time I discovered the internet, and stayed with it ever since. It's got so much 'replay' value, too. If I recall correctly I found it via... Dragon Tails I think.
Okay, back on topic, I apparently could not count nor divide by three nor remember the very fact that made me go 'DUH' loudly once you mentioned it.
edit: Holy bisnatch these forums work user-friendly O_O
Quote from: N-Cat on April 10, 2009, 09:16:27 AM
One thing I have to say to AndersW [Haven't figured out how to quote yet]
Go to the post you want to quote, and press the 'QUOTE' button. When you're posting, you also get a list of some prior posts at the end of the page - they have a link marked 'Insert Quote', so there's two ways of doing it :P
QuoteBy the way, does anyone know any other Tri-Wing traits? Like, say they do determine their descendant's colors of wings and body?
Obviously it didn't do much for Abel's wings. The main body colours seem to be a product of the weaker member of the two parents.
Quotep.s. Does anyone know where Cyra's symbol was on her body before it was so rudely censored?(Just kidding, that was proper, not rude)
No, we don't. It has probably changed anyway... I only posted that at all because llearch wanted confirmation that she's female.
Tapewolf, I don't mean to be a pain, but I don't see a quote button, and when I click "Insert Quote," it just brings me to the top of the posting page. Where I am there's a filter so I have to use a proxy. Could that be somehow messing with the code?
Quote from: N-Cat on April 10, 2009, 09:28:08 AM
Tapewolf, I don't mean to be a pain, but I don't see a quote button, and when I click "Insert Quote," it just brings me to the top of the posting page. Where I am there's a filter so I have to use a proxy. Could that be somehow messing with the code?
Are you using the default theme or something weird? IIRC only the DMFA and default CMF theme are guaranteed to work.
I get this:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/tapewolf/scraps/quoting.png
(...moderator powers greyed out)
Trainwreak fanart sketches go!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Zephyr_the_Hedgehog/Sketches%20And%20WIPs/Siar.png)
I'll probably colour this when absolutely sure... I don't ink I just mash then colour and boy it shows :) I also broke OpenCanvas at one point.
"insert quote" will scroll the page to the top, and then, after a little thinking, usually, it'll paste the post you just asked it to quote into the text box.
The "Quote" button is at the top right of every post, along with the Modify button on your own posts, and, if you're a mod, everyone else's posts - not to mention the Remove and Split Topic icons, and Select checkbox...
What _you_ should see on everyone else's posts, in the top right corner, is a "Quote" image. If it's your own post, it'll usually have a Quote and a Modify or Edit (depending on which theme you're using) image.
Since *goes and looks* you're using the forum default, I'd guess you're using the DMFA theme here - the image you're looking for looks like (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/Themes/DMFA/images/english/quote.gif)
.. I see Tapewolf has already responded. ;-]
edit:
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 10, 2009, 09:37:48 AM
Are you using the default theme or something weird? IIRC only the DMFA and default CMF theme are guaranteed to work.
... Really? I thought I'd fixed all of them. If anyone has information otherwise, please, drop me a note...
I know we have it that there are tri-wing male cubi, but it does seem odd that all of the clan founders we know about are female, especially since one of the drawbacks of founding a clan seems to be sterility. Do we know if there's some sort of ratio? Are females much more likely to found clans than males or something?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 10, 2009, 09:42:21 AM
... Really? I thought I'd fixed all of them. If anyone has information otherwise, please, drop me a note...
Obviously I do not Remember Correctly :3
Quote from: Pagan on April 10, 2009, 08:01:18 AM
So clan Seme has a "negative" emotional affinity. I wonder what affinity clan Uke has.
Darn. I came in here to make that same joke, and I've been beaten to it by several hours.
Wait... if she's dead, where do Abel's Headwings and marking come from (or would she be just a Tri-Wing on the clan and not the clan leader?)
The clan symbol seems to remain, the only thing that goes is the tentacle heads from what we've seen so far.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on April 10, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
Wait... if she's dead, where do Abel's Headwings and marking come from (or would she be just a Tri-Wing on the clan and not the clan leader?)
Having a living tri-wing Founder gives you heads on your tentacles, and makes you generally more powerful (I've heard the surplus energy sort of radiates away from him/her into the other members). It doesn't affect the headwings or marking.
Woe betide Abel...
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 10, 2009, 09:58:07 AM
I know we have it that there are tri-wing male cubi, but it does seem odd that all of the clan founders we know about are female, especially since one of the drawbacks of founding a clan seems to be sterility. Do we know if there's some sort of ratio? Are females much more likely to found clans than males or something?
To be fair, we know about, what, three canon tri-winged clan founders? Not a good data set there. It is quite likely that the number is an even 50/50 ratio, and we just haven't seen any male founders yet.
*Charles thinks... a dangerous time for all* Hmm... clan founding causes sterility... there were 'clan wars'... but sterility could be overcome by cloning... so we could then have "Clone Wars"! A DMFA/Star Wars crossover! :boogie
Now who would be Jar-Jar... :B
Quote from: Alondro on April 10, 2009, 12:08:17 PM
*Charles thinks... a dangerous time for all* Hmm... clan founding causes sterility... there were 'clan wars'... but sterility could be overcome by cloning... so we could then have "Clone Wars"! A DMFA/Star Wars crossover! :boogie
Now who would be Jar-Jar... :B
The Fae, probably Albanion. Annoying little buggers, no one really likes them, and even the creator finds them annoying now.
Though I don't get all of the Jar-Jar hate... I kinda liked him.
Boy, tri-wings are fun to look at! :> Perhaps it's that extra set of wings.
Quote from: Jairus on April 10, 2009, 12:31:37 PM
Though I don't get all of the Jar-Jar hate... I kinda liked him.
>:O
Burninate the heathen!
:mob
Quote from: Jairus on April 10, 2009, 12:31:37 PM
Quote from: Alondro on April 10, 2009, 12:08:17 PM
*Charles thinks... a dangerous time for all* Hmm... clan founding causes sterility... there were 'clan wars'... but sterility could be overcome by cloning... so we could then have "Clone Wars"! A DMFA/Star Wars crossover! :boogie
Now who would be Jar-Jar... :B
The Fae, probably Albanion. Annoying little buggers, no one really likes them, and even the creator finds them annoying now.
Though I don't get all of the Jar-Jar hate... I kinda liked him.
Ah! Proof that I'm not alone!
EDIT: Just a random thought here - am I the only one who thinks that Siar's costume is sort of styled after Leia's?
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on April 10, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
Boy, tri-wings are fun to look at! :> Perhaps it's that extra set of wings.
Do they ever, like, fly with them? Seriously, I've like never seen them used for that.
Curiosity takes hold of me and begins to muse on this... are there any founders in a position similar to Fa'lina. A clan eradicated and only they remain. There seems to be more than a few clans whose founder is gone but how often does the opposite happen... For that matter, how available to clan founders make themselves. They would be a very valuable target to anyone wishing to weaken a lot of cubi at once.
Quote from: Tipod on April 10, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Do they ever, like, fly with them? Seriously, I've like never seen them used for that.
I understand that by the time you go Tri, you don't -need- to fly...
Quote from: Tikki on April 10, 2009, 02:47:54 PM
Curiosity takes hold of me and begins to muse on this... are there any founders in a position similar to Fa'lina. A clan eradicated and only they remain. There seems to be more than a few clans whose founder is gone but how often does the opposite happen... For that matter, how available to clan founders make themselves. They would be a very valuable target to anyone wishing to weaken a lot of cubi at once.
Yeah. About on par with weakening the whole of the US of A by sinking the Eastern Seaboard.
You forget that anyone who has reached Tri-wing status is about as easy to kill as uprooting the Rockies with your bare hands. Seriously, it would be safer to climb naked into a cage with an enraged mother bear and attempt to eat her cubs.
So how many clan founder's are still around? And how does one become a clan founder? Is it about power or something else entirely? Is it similar to becoming a Yakuza family boss?
Quote from: Tipod on April 10, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on April 10, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
Boy, tri-wings are fun to look at! :> Perhaps it's that extra set of wings.
Do they ever, like, fly with them? Seriously, I've like never seen them used for that.
They're smarter than that -- this is why they don't fly: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_263.php
Seriously though -- if I'm going to be looking at buttwings, I want to look at them attached to a hot female. (Yes I know they're not *really* on their butt, not quite anyway, but "buttwings" is just too amusing and evocative a word not to use.)
I do like that Fa'lina is giving Abel the quick intro to life as a Cubi. Before this he had *no* idea -- and his only example of a Cubi in action was Aniz -- not exactly prime role model material.
Just a quick note:
When I saw the preview image link, I totally thought Fa'Lina was an overhead, chibi version of herself in a matching go-kart.
Quote from: Rakala on April 10, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
So how many clan founder's are still around? And how does one become a clan founder? Is it about power or something else entirely? Is it similar to becoming a Yakuza family boss?
Amber has said round about dozen. Later she said about 8-9 of them. It's possible that some of these ascended to become the four 'Cubi gods and no longer count among the 8, but that's just a guess. (See
Comic Time & Conservation of Energy (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2262.msg93710#msg93710)).
I don't know what's involved, but a truly stupendous amount of energy seems to be part of the requirements. All but about 2 used soul-stealing to bring it about. It seems to be very risky too.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 10, 2009, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Tipod on April 10, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Do they ever, like, fly with them? Seriously, I've like never seen them used for that.
I understand that by the time you go Tri, you don't -need- to fly...
Twi-wings don't fly: they just move the world around them.
Quote from: Kenji on April 10, 2009, 04:05:45 PM
Just a quick note:
When I saw the preview image link, I totally thought Fa'Lina was an overhead, chibi version of herself in a matching go-kart.
DMFA Racing! *cue the Diddy Kong Racing theme music*
Quote from: Tipod on April 10, 2009, 02:46:23 PMQuote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on April 10, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
Boy, tri-wings are fun to look at! :> Perhaps it's that extra set of wings.
Do they ever, like, fly with them? Seriously, I've like never seen them used for that.
physically speaking, it would be very hard if even possible to fly with them, as they are quite small in comparison to the body when compared to actual flying animals, plus they lack a rudder device (the tail on birds, the membranae between the legs and the tail on bats and pterosaurids, insects don't count because they fly more like an helicopter than a plane)
*runs away from bringing physics talk on a fantasy webcomic* :U
Quote from: Jack McSlay on April 10, 2009, 05:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tipod on April 10, 2009, 02:46:23 PMQuote from: Orion Asmodeus Dezagrats on April 10, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
Boy, tri-wings are fun to look at! :> Perhaps it's that extra set of wings.
Do they ever, like, fly with them? Seriously, I've like never seen them used for that.
physically speaking, it would be very hard if even possible to fly with them, as they are quite small in comparison to the body when compared to actual flying animals, plus they lack a rudder device (the tail on birds, the membranae between the legs and the tail on bats and pterosaurids, insects don't count because they fly more like an helicopter than a plane)
*runs away from bringing physics talk on a fantasy webcomic* :U
The headwings can always act as rudders in flight. Moreover, considering that most winged creatures have some form of magic about them, the problems of steering in flight can be somewhat handwaved.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 10, 2009, 02:56:46 PM
You forget that anyone who has reached Tri-wing status is about as easy to kill as uprooting the Rockies with your bare hands. Seriously, it would be safer to climb naked into a cage with an enraged mother bear and attempt to eat her cubs.
Ah, but then there's the dragons. :3
QuoteYay, buttwings!
lol I thought the same thing...
QuoteAh, but then there's the dragons.
Or MOWs. Triwing vs. flock(?) o' MOWs? Tough call.
Quote from: Shachza on April 10, 2009, 07:29:51 PM
QuoteYay, buttwings!
lol I thought the same thing...
QuoteAh, but then there's the dragons.
Or MOWs. Triwing vs. flock(?) o' MOWs? Tough call.
The land would be torn asunder in such a battle!
It'd certainly be neat to see such a spectacle.
Quote from: insidexml on April 10, 2009, 07:53:17 PM
It'd certainly be neat to see such a spectacle.
... from a very very long way away.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 10, 2009, 08:02:13 PM
... from a very very long way away.
That would be a good idea, wouldn't it?
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 10, 2009, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Rakala on April 10, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
So how many clan founder's are still around? And how does one become a clan founder? Is it about power or something else entirely? Is it similar to becoming a Yakuza family boss?
Amber has said round about dozen. Later she said about 8-9 of them. It's possible that some of these ascended to become the four 'Cubi gods and no longer count among the 8, but that's just a guess. (See Comic Time & Conservation of Energy (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=2262.msg93710#msg93710)).
I don't know what's involved, but a truly stupendous amount of energy seems to be part of the requirements. All but about 2 used soul-stealing to bring it about. It seems to be very risky too.
For the ones that didn't use soul's. Do you think they gathered their emotional energy while meditating to distill it into a more powerful form of energy.
From that perspective it might have been the more friendlier clans that make up the two mentioned. Though it might not be the case, I can't help but imagine a cubi at a theme park absorbing all the happy emotions from the passer by's that are all pact in together.
I have thought of several others on the positive note. But the one about needing a harem to work just makes me want to smash my head into the wall. Yes their is a time when you think to much and I have reached that point. :B
You all should stop asking questions about things that have not been fully realized in comic form. Knowledge only breeds woe and sadness, great sadness if you've grown to have an attachment to certain things.
For some reason, the whole idea of Hip wings makes me think of Eternal Sailor Moon.
(For those who are not aware, ESM is her third form that was never shown in the dub butcher job they passed of as dub. In place of a bow at the back of her waist she has two pairs of Angelic-esque decorative wings that are attached at her hips. From the front it looks like they're connected to her back too but when you see her from behind it's clear they are not.)
I just wanted to know if they flew :[
Quote from: Azlan on April 10, 2009, 10:10:16 PM
You all should stop asking questions about things that have not been fully realized in comic form. Knowledge only breeds woe and sadness, great sadness if you've grown to have an attachment to certain things.
So... we'd just be feeding Able you're saying? :o
Quote from: Tikki on April 10, 2009, 10:57:44 PM
So... we'd just be feeding Able you're saying? :o
Well, that would have been Siar's affinity and the clan tends to share that... so I suppose so.
*runs around flailing* THEY WANNA EAT ME!
I'm thinking the librarian is a triwing or just a old cubi from a clan with a living founder I'm leaning towards triwing myself all those tentacles and the heads seem allot more sentient than Dan's http://www.missmab.com/DLoads/DMFA_Wallpaper28_1600.jpg
Quote from: LoneHowler on April 11, 2009, 02:23:59 AM
I'm thinking the librarian is a triwing or just a old cubi from a clan with a living founder I'm leaning towards triwing myself all those tentacles and the heads seem allot more sentient than Dan's http://www.missmab.com/DLoads/DMFA_Wallpaper28_1600.jpg
I'm pretty sure she was confirmed to be a type of Mythos that plonks it's self down and is pretty unmovable.
Quote from: Azlan on April 10, 2009, 10:10:16 PM
You all should stop asking questions about things that have not been fully realized in comic form. Knowledge only breeds woe and sadness, great sadness if you've grown to have an attachment to certain things.
"And when you approach the godhead, the last commandment is always 'Thou shalt not question'."
-- Jacob Bronowski,
The Ascent of Man
This may sound a really odd question, but is it possible to members of cubi clans already estabilished, like Siar or Cyra, to then go on to establish their own clans?
I'm doubtful of it, but you never know what it could mean if it were possible to
Quote from: Buhamet on April 11, 2009, 10:00:14 AM
This may sound a really odd question, but is it possible to members of cubi clans already estabilished, like Siar or Cyra, to then go on to establish their own clans?
Amber has said that it's possible to have a clan without a Tri-Wing, so I imagine branching off is indeed possible - I'm not sure about creating a whole clan from scratch, though.
According to Amber, in the entire 100'000 year history of the 'Cubi race, there have been less than 200 tri-wings, ever.
fair enough
thanks for letting me know. I just for some reason thought it could be possible for Dan to end up creating his own clan (or creating a branch) to try and......I dunno, improve the cubi image or have an adventuring cubi clan......
Hrm... no one else commented on this, so I'm wondering if it's just me, but... does Siar's face look rather more male than female?
I can't quite say why, but if I didn't look down, I wouldn't at all have thought "female" with regards to Siar. And even after, the face still looks male. At least to me. Am I just completely crazy this morning, or...?
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on April 11, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Hrm... no one else commented on this, so I'm wondering if it's just me, but... does Siar's face look rather more male than female?
I can't quite say why, but if I didn't look down, I wouldn't at all have thought "female" with regards to Siar. And even after, the face still looks male. At least to me. Am I just completely crazy this morning, or...?
Well, she's got eyelashes, and you'd think if s/he were going to go female she's remember the face... Though maybe this is the root of all Abel's androgyny. Hmm...
What holds that dress up on her... perks? Velcro? Tape? Glue? Magic? Or is it like Mystique's "clothing" in X-men?
I was totally blown away by that smug vixen! Though a killer smile and almost non-existant clothing are still not enough to place her above the crushing presence of Fa'lina.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 11, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
What holds that dress up on her... perks? Velcro? Tape? Glue? Magic? Or is it like Mystique's "clothing" in X-men?
I'm not a clothing designer, but the "engineer" in me got interested. I'd guess it could be any of those answers. Or given a winged female form, one could use the wings as support points and get creative with some wire sewn into the garment edges. I read that dress designers have been doing stuff like that since the days when whalebone was used to hold up bodices.
While I'm making stuff up here... That "Male Face" thing..? I'm not seeing it, but I did notice that Siar isn't wearing any lip color.
That might have been the difference Psy-Kosh had noticed.
Maybe it's shapeshifting. Make it look like your outfit is impossible because it is.
Quote from: Attic Rat on April 11, 2009, 01:07:14 PM
While I'm making stuff up here... That "Male Face" thing..? I'm not seeing it, but I did notice that Siar isn't wearing any lip color.
That might have been the difference Psy-Kosh had noticed.
Her face is wider and she has stockier neck than most of the feminine characters. Amber usually gives her girls long, graceful necks and thin foreheads. Siar doesn't have 'em.
Neither does Lorenda. :mowwink
Quote from: Attic Rat on April 11, 2009, 01:07:14 PM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 11, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
What holds that dress up on her... perks? Velcro? Tape? Glue? Magic? Or is it like Mystique's "clothing" in X-men?
I'm not a clothing designer, but the "engineer" in me got interested. I'd guess it could be any of those answers. Or given a winged female form, one could use the wings as support points and get creative with some wire sewn into the garment edges. I read that dress designers have been doing stuff like that since the days when whalebone was used to hold up bodices.
While I'm making stuff up here... That "Male Face" thing..? I'm not seeing it, but I did notice that Siar isn't wearing any lip color.
That might have been the difference Psy-Kosh had noticed.
She has fur, lots of ways you could attach stuff to that.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 11, 2009, 10:06:36 AMAmber has said that it's possible to have a clan without a Tri-Wing, so I imagine branching off is indeed possible - I'm not sure about creating a whole clan from scratch, though.
According to Amber, in the entire 100'000 year history of the 'Cubi race, there have been less than 200 tri-wings, ever.
So you're saying they're some kind of weird mutation? :P :rolleyes >:3
Just pulling your leg there...
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 11, 2009, 02:56:17 PM
Neither does Lorenda. :mowwink
Lorenda seems to be the only character that eats other beings whole, though. Perhaps that's it! She has a larger face and throat to better eat you with!
You know If I was a try wing I'd make a piont of using my butt wings...
*imagines a giggling bunny wings flapping furiously as he's lifted butt first into the sky*
I wonder what sort of naughtiness I could get up to...
Hmm I wonder since Founding a clan causes sterility would a gay cubi ever found a clan? It would seem that sterility wouldn't be much of a downside for them...
Quote from: thegayhare on April 11, 2009, 05:40:59 PM
Hmm I wonder since Founding a clan causes sterility would a gay cubi ever found a clan? It would seem that sterility wouldn't be much of a downside for them...
... Hehehehehe. Have you read Tapewolf's stories? Daryil is definitively homosexual. And constantly showing Jakob with roses, as I recall.
Jakob isn't terribly interested. Daryil is, as I understand it, happy to wait until that changes.
I've always been amused by that aspect of Daryil's fractured psyche. I suspect I'd be less amused in Jakob's position. ;-]
Quote from: AmigaDragon on April 11, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
Or is it like Mystique's "clothing" in X-men?
Always a possibility when it comes to 'Cubi. Remember when Aaryanna was showing off her "amazing abilities" to Dan, she shifted her dress into a schoolgirl "sailor suit". Although presumably when Abel was wearing that Merlitz disguise, it saved him some effort to use the shirt Dan gave him. And of course, Dan doesn't know how yet, so his "size six with a C cup" to go with his Alexsi disguise had to be real.
Quote from: Buhamet on April 11, 2009, 10:00:14 AM
This may sound a really odd question, but is it possible to members of cubi clans already estabilished, like Siar or Cyra, to then go on to establish their own clans?
I'm doubtful of it, but you never know what it could mean if it were possible to
To my knowledge, there is nothing about having a living founder that would prevent clan members from becoming tri-wings themselves.
So... Is this the clan that Keanu Reeves belongs to?
Quote from: Nutjob on April 14, 2009, 01:48:03 PM
So... Is this the clan that Keanu Reeves belongs to?
No, that would be the Wo'dn Aktor clan. :rolleyes :P
Do we know what clans try to make use of the positive emotions as of yet, or only the darker emotion clans?
Quote from: Buhamet on April 16, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
Do we know what clans try to make use of the positive emotions as of yet, or only the darker emotion clans?
Jin's clan (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_009.php) was negotiating to open a children's hospital, and then there is the Joybringer clan. That's it, and even those are speculative. We know that clans exist that have affinities for some positive emotions, but no examples have been explicitly given.
Even for darker emotions, the only certain identifications are Cyra - Pain, Siar - Misery
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 16, 2009, 06:59:32 PM
Jin's clan was negotiating to open a children's hospital, and then there is the Joybringer clan. That's it, and even those are speculative. We know that clans exist that have affinities for some positive emotions, but no examples have been explicitly given.
There's a possible connection that can be drawn around pages 43, 44 and page 48.
On page 43 we have a number of happy 'Cubi, with the exception of the guy irritated at the Confusion-Griffin's hyperactivity.
Then, on page 44 we have Mink's(?) general outlook and reaction to Abel. On that same page, Fa'Lina says that 'Cubi prefer to keep to a particular lounge.
On page 48, Destania describes the area as "this saccharine wing of the Academy".
I would not be at all surprised if the 'Cubi lounges are grouped around particular affinities. This would only make sense, since they tend to feed off each other's emotions while in the Academy. I would go so far as to suggest that most of the 'Cubi we've seen in these two pages are ones based around relatively harmless emotions.
When you tour a university as a prospective student, you're generally shown all the 'right things' to try and make a good impression. If I was Fa'Lina and I was personally inducting a traumatised student who thinks 'Cubi are evil, I'd show him the nice 'Cubi*.
This is purely hypothetical, of course - but it makes a lot of sense to me.
(*) The only hole I can obviously see is that they never did this to Dan, though I presume there was a reason for that.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 16, 2009, 07:23:55 PM
(*) The only hole I can obviously see is that they never did this to Dan, though I presume there was a reason for that.
The rapidly arriving group of adventurers (and one grumpy succubus) might have had something to do with it...
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 16, 2009, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 16, 2009, 07:23:55 PM
(*) The only hole I can obviously see is that they never did this to Dan, though I presume there was a reason for that.
The rapidly arriving group of adventurers (and one grumpy succubus) might have had something to do with it...
I would also have to say Dan was more emotionally stable at his first visited then Abel was.
This would mean Abel would have been treated with kids gloves. While Dan would have gotten the more extensive look at the academy.
Also Abel probably wanted not to lie to Dan because of his experiences in life. Abel will joke when it isn't a matter of life or death situation, but when he does make a serious comment he tends to not sugar coat it.
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 16, 2009, 07:23:55 PM
(*) The only hole I can obviously see is that they never did this to Dan, though I presume there was a reason for that.
When Abel gave Dan his tour, Dan was busy being a statue, which isn't very conductive to learning.
Also, Abel might have taken him elsewhere knowing he was a negative emotion affiliate.
Or perhaps to the learning places (library etc.) to 'teach' Dan about cubi, which also had the side effect of having him around mythos more incase Dan was still 'aaargh stupid cubi'.
Just posting some belated fanart (http://www.panicepisode.com/gallery/gallery/siar_fanart.png) of the clan founder (light content warning only insofar as it reflects the character's outfit in the comic).
(sorry for the late reply, haven't read it sooner)
Nice work, FSharp!
Looks very cool, if a bit breezy... ;)
And welcome to the forum!
Follow the rules and beware the box! >:3
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 11, 2009, 06:49:46 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on April 11, 2009, 05:40:59 PM
Hmm I wonder since Founding a clan causes sterility would a gay cubi ever found a clan? It would seem that sterility wouldn't be much of a downside for them...
... Hehehehehe. Have you read Tapewolf's stories? Daryil is definitively homosexual. And constantly showing Jakob with roses, as I recall.
Jakob isn't terribly interested. Daryil is, as I understand it, happy to wait until that changes.
I've always been amused by that aspect of Daryil's fractured psyche. I suspect I'd be less amused in Jakob's position. ;-]
A "true" clan (what ever
that means) can only be established by a tri-wing. Presumably, on the tri-wing's ascension, all of the tri-wing's descendants become part of the new clan.
Daryil's clan is probably a group of Cubi who have banded together for mutual support, with Daryil as nominal leader. It's a socal unit, but it lacks the advantages of a true Clan with a living tri-wing founder.
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 10, 2009, 01:25:57 AM
A "true" clan (what ever that means) can only be established by a tri-wing. Presumably, on the tri-wing's ascension, all of the tri-wing's descendants become part of the new clan.
It is possible to create a new clan in at least two ways - firstly by ascending into tri-wing state, and there is also another unspecified way, which I take to mean an existing clan being branched off by a group of individuals.
QuoteDaryil's clan is probably a group of Cubi who have banded together for mutual support, with Daryil as nominal leader. It's a socal unit, but it lacks the advantages of a true Clan with a living tri-wing founder.
Since you ask, what happened in Daryil's case is that the leader of his original unnamed clan was assassinated. I don't know if said leader was tri-winged or not.
The clan at this point had two candidates for succeeding the leader, one of whom was Daryil. The other candidate won the toss, and Daryil, believing that he should have won, left in a huff with a number of his supporters. He branched the clan off at this point, and became their leader.
What he also did during the branching was employ a spell he'd designed that faked the tentacle-heads for all members of the clan. Many shortcuts were taken to reduce the energy consumption and the result was what you might call "a cheap Chinese copy" of the tentacle-heads.
This caused certain other clans to denounce his clan as being fraudulent because he was in a way trying to "fake his ascension". It may be that the effort involved in this was part of what originally unbalanced him, that is lost in the murky past.