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Title: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Paladin Sheppard on February 08, 2008, 05:40:16 AM
Damn this goes a looong way back!

And despite defending so often it even Dan called his robe a dress at first!


*Pictures Wildy in a Chainmail Bikini* rawr! She looks good with her hair like that


Title: Re: 8/2/08 [DMFA #876] +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Alondro on February 08, 2008, 05:51:12 AM
It's not going to go all the way back to Dan wanting to have revenge on his brother for slaughtering his entire clan?   :B

And does this mean Pokemon will feature in some how?   :giggle
Title: Re: 8/2/08 [DMFA #876] +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 05:54:58 AM
Hmm.  So, now that Abel has restyled the robe, Dan's significantly more vulnerable to magic?  Never mind, I'm sure he can learn some kind of workaround...
Title: Re: 8/2/08 [DMFA #876] +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: kaskar on February 08, 2008, 06:18:48 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 05:54:58 AM
Hmm.  So, now that Abel has restyled the robe, Dan's significantly more vulnerable to magic?  Never mind, I'm sure he can learn some kind of workaround...

   8) Was it the fabric that was changed, or just the general style. Remember, I think Abel merely ripped and resewed the robe to his whim in fashion, not destroy the cloth itself ...
Title: Re: 8/2/08 [DMFA #876] +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 06:25:51 AM
Quote from: kaskar on February 08, 2008, 06:18:48 AM
Remember, I think Abel merely ripped and resewed the robe to his whim in fashion, not destroy the cloth itself ...

It now no longer protects his legs or groin from a magical attack.
Title: Re: 8/2/08 [DMFA #876] +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: e_voyager on February 08, 2008, 06:56:40 AM
Ouch that means that that spells below the belt  take on a whole new level of pain.
Title: Re: 8/2/08 [DMFA #876] +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Ren Gaulen on February 08, 2008, 07:20:55 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 06:25:51 AM
Quote from: kaskar on February 08, 2008, 06:18:48 AM
Remember, I think Abel merely ripped and resewed the robe to his whim in fashion, not destroy the cloth itself ...

It now no longer protects his legs or groin from a magical attack.

Magical kick in the b@llz! Inflicts 9999 points of damage!
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 08, 2008, 07:20:55 AM
Magical kick in the b@llz! Inflicts 9999 points of damage!

:giggle
Reminds me of Robot Chicken, "Testicle attack number 49! Oww my dragon ballz! (http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=7e11a83b70ee0c236590cb0020913d18)"


I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)

Of course I don't really care I just happen to be nit-picking at the moment.
Its an easy piece to overlook if it wasn't intentionally changed for convenience sake.

I don't have any problem with it, if it helps the story, do it. Besides stating this way way way back in comic 119, who would know for sure if it would matter later.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Sid on February 08, 2008, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)

Of course I don't really care I just happen to be nit-picking at the moment.
Its an easy piece to overlook if it wasn't intentionally changed for convenience sake.

I don't have any problem with it, if it helps the story, do it. Besides stating this way way way back in comic 119, who would know for sure if it would matter later.

*edits his posts now that he got edit-sniped*
Yes, my thought exactly! I mostly remember it because that comic touches the very reason I joined The Nice, actually (fanfic-related, but the idea later on struck me as not that awesome).

I always figured that Dan and Wildy had somehow been separated before Dan decided to become an adventurer and only met again after Dan's "retirement". But now... hm. I'm sure this will be explained later on, so we'll just have to wait and see. Flashback's just beginning, after all.

Plot musing aside, it's quite interesting to see how Dan and Wildy apparently swapped hair styles over the years. :giggle
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on February 08, 2008, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 05:54:58 AM
Hmm.  So, now that Abel has restyled the robe, Dan's significantly more vulnerable to magic?  Never mind, I'm sure he can learn some kind of workaround...

Could be, but keep in mind that Wildy didn't get the robe for a Cubus. His left foot alone conatins most likely more magical defense power then the larger part of the robe now.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 08:29:50 AM
Quote from: 127.0.0.2 on February 08, 2008, 08:28:44 AM
Could be, but keep in mind that Wildy didn't get the robe for a Cubus. His left foot alone conatins most likely more magical defense power then the larger part of the robe now.
That would be the workaround, yes.  But he doesn't know how to use it, and he's still wavering over whether learning magic is a good thing or not.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: 127.0.0.2 on February 08, 2008, 08:35:33 AM
TouchĂȘ. One can only hope that the powers and "cubi instincts" that come naturally with such a form do a decent job until he gets out of his current stupidity phase.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: e_voyager on February 08, 2008, 08:45:06 AM
i'm guessing that they must count for something for him to defeat DP so many times
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on February 08, 2008, 07:20:55 AM
Magical kick in the b@llz! Inflicts 9999 points of damage!

:giggle
Reminds me of Robot Chicken, "Testicle attack number 49! Oww my dragon ballz! (http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=7e11a83b70ee0c236590cb0020913d18)"


I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)

Of course I don't really care I just happen to be nit-picking at the moment.
Its an easy piece to overlook if it wasn't intentionally changed for convenience sake.

I don't have any problem with it, if it helps the story, do it. Besides stating this way way way back in comic 119, who would know for sure if it would matter later.

It's not an inconsistency. Consider that she was with him the whole time, except when he went off and actually started his adventurers. I'm sure we'll see that's the case in the next couple of issues.

Also, does anyone else notice the now-eerie resemblance between Wildy and Biggs? I mean, I know they're siblings, but she never looked so much like him before.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 10:17:34 AM
Glad I'm not the only one who thought there was a resemblance. Its explained away by the facial expressions being nearly identical to Biggs usual ones.


It is inconsistent, She didn't think of him as a "warrior type" in comic 119. That kinda means battles, adventuring, everything Dan went out and did.

She just gave him a magically protected robe in the flashback, right after he graduated from adventuring school. Magically protected meaning its armor, you know for battle.

Thats an inconsistency if I ever saw one.

By the way, I don't mean to be an ass, I just happen to be one.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on February 08, 2008, 10:38:23 AM
technically this is an inconsistent "first adventure" because

A) within  the earlier comics where we see that Wildy had no knowledge of his life as a warrior.

Meaning this is most likely his second or third adventure

And, B) it appears that before he got his robe  Dan preferred wearing a golden sash.


evidence of this can be seen here in strip 119 of DMFA cannon.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on February 08, 2008, 10:40:17 AM
I really should read the thread before posting.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Dannysaysnoo on February 08, 2008, 10:45:23 AM
I like the way Wildy's tail hasn't yet been made red yet.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 08, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)

Well, there's a difference between learning how to be an adventurer and making a successful career out of it, so she may simply have thought his tales of high adventure were exaggerations, while still knowing that he'd done a small amount of low-level hack'n'slash on the side.

For example, I have a piece of paper that says I know how to set up a Windows 2000 network.  Shortly after I got it, I went off and started writing Windows CE applications.  By now, I couldn't remember how to set up an Active Directory server if I wanted to.

Also, Wildy has a tendency to come and go in Lost Lake, if I remember right.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Aleolus on February 08, 2008, 11:37:34 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/monkeyscreamer2/1197176119111.jpg)

So true
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: MT Hazard on February 08, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Wildy continues to be the character with the most different clothes and hair styles I see.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kenji on February 08, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
See Saist?

Told ya they were dresses.  :giggle
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 08, 2008, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)
I'd say that here, Wildy was being a good friend by giving him a thoughtful gift (knowing how inept he can be at times... remember the rock summoning (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php)?). In 116-119 she finds out that he really has been following his adventuring vocation fairly successfully and not just telling tall tales.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kibin on February 08, 2008, 01:00:32 PM
The comic before this one seems to have disappeared completely.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 01:31:34 PM
Looks like the links are not going to the rightly numbered pages. Minor problem overlooked because of the internet outage I'm sure.

I must say you all have put a good spin on comic 119.
I admit that there is the slight possibility of those interpretations, it just doesn't add up completely with how she reacted to Dan's stories being true.

But as has been said, we will find out more about this as the comic progresses.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: zopey on February 08, 2008, 01:43:04 PM
i'ts amaizing how amber manages to subtle change a carecter to make them look older or younger. pure guinius
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: CameronCN on February 08, 2008, 01:59:30 PM
The Wildy continuity contradiction is something we've run into before. Does anybody remember the strip where she is the one who makes fun of Dan's robe as a dress? But later it is explained that she gave him the robe, and of course in today's strip she is the one saying "it's a robe!"

I don't regard it as an issue. It just shows that Amber's ideas about the characters' pasts have evolved over time. I like the "new" past better, anyway. :mowwink
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Zedd on February 08, 2008, 02:22:28 PM
Hmmm Wildy has the big credit cards
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: e_voyager on February 08, 2008, 02:30:24 PM
i think wildy just likes to tease - play with Dan. it's not all about her finding someone to pity (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_581.php) that actually enjoys pushing her buttons (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_472.php) at the same. plus Dan has a high tolerance  for pain and that comes in handy when she's  showing him how upset he made her (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_582.php)
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Aleolus on February 08, 2008, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Zedd on February 08, 2008, 02:22:28 PM
Hmmm Wildy has the big credit cards

Is zat like Destiana having a perky wingspan?  >:3
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: e_voyager on February 08, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on February 08, 2008, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Zedd on February 08, 2008, 02:22:28 PM
Hmmm Wildy has the big credit cards

Is zat like Destiana having a perky wingspan?  >:3
well you never know.  it could be.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 08, 2008, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: CameronCN on February 08, 2008, 01:59:30 PM
The Wildy continuity contradiction is something we've run into before. Does anybody remember the strip where she is the one who makes fun of Dan's robe as a dress? But later it is explained that she gave him the robe, and of course in today's strip she is the one saying "it's a robe!"

Well, Dan is saying it's a dress, now. She's saying it's a robe. If he changes his tune, you can bet Wildy is the sort to call it a dress, just to rub his nose in it.

I know -I- would ;-]
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Amber Williams on February 08, 2008, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)

Of course I don't really care I just happen to be nit-picking at the moment.
Its an easy piece to overlook if it wasn't intentionally changed for convenience sake.

I don't have any problem with it, if it helps the story, do it. Besides stating this way way way back in comic 119, who would know for sure if it would matter later.

Wildy is Dan's oldest and closest friend and has been since they were kids.  It'd be pretty hard not to know he's spending time learning to be an adventurer and then is setting off to do various adventures and still retain that title.  The story-arch where Wildy disguised herself as Shaman was actually the first time she had ever been on an adventure with Dan...and with reasons.

If you really want to view it as an error on my part, feel more than free.  However I don't see how someone giving a friend a gift to help keep them safe and then later on thinking they are coming back weaving over-exxaggerated tales of their exploits a continuity error.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on February 08, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
 :mwaha
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: thegayhare on February 08, 2008, 04:01:35 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on February 08, 2008, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Zedd on February 08, 2008, 02:22:28 PM
Hmmm Wildy has the big credit cards

Is zat like Destiana having a perky wingspan?  >:3

remember though it was Destina who said that so there is a hint of narcissism in that statement
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
While I do suffer from chronic "foot in mouth syndrome",
The statement of Wildy's in comic 119 doesn't convey any sarcasm that I can find. I may be wrong or course(see previous statement).

If she was being sarcastic about him being a "warrior type" the latest comic makes sense. This also hinges on the meaning that "warrior type" has the common meaning -anyone who actively seeks battle, like an adventurer.
If its the more strict meaning of a combatant for war and major victory then her statement would also make sense. They were discussing an event that would alter a major country or the world.

The statement itself in my mind seems open to interpretation.
My family does however have a history of looking at things differently. :B
Just remember rednecks can be nerds too.

To be honest I always look at the comic with a great sense of time. I mean the fact it has been created over the span of many years and the fact that the overall story has solidified toward a goal we don't know of but has taken turns and twists with things possibly left behind along the way.

Alright I better shutup before some one gets too mad.
I just hope there aren't any teeth involved.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: WhiteFox on February 08, 2008, 04:55:41 PM
I've got an awesome method for resolving any conflicts of continuity. I don't really care.

"The difference between fiction and real life is that fiction has to make sense."
-Tom Clancy

If something doesn't make sense in real life, we just shrug and move on. We might scratch our heads about  it the next day. If we see the same thing in a work of fiction, we get reams and reams of discussion and debate. I find it easier, and I enjoy the story more, if I overlook minor inconsistent details.

Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
Alright I better shutup before some one gets too mad.
I just hope there aren't any teeth involved.

Thunderbolts, man. Thunderbolts.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: AmigaDragon on February 08, 2008, 06:54:54 PM
OK, so Dan was calling it a dress while Wildy was calling it a robe (getting him to accept it). Her calling it a dress later doesn't have to mean anything against continuity, she likes to tease her friends. That she gave it to him means little as far as this is concerned.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: rt on February 08, 2008, 07:34:55 PM
Bah continiuity, continiuity, continiuity.

Your forgetting the important part .. chainmail bikini clad ladies!! (or chainmail lionclothed guys where preffered)
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 08:14:18 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on February 08, 2008, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Gamma on February 08, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
I see a minor inconsistency, I don't think Wildy ever knew of Dans adventuring days.
As evidenced by comic 119 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_119.php)

Of course I don't really care I just happen to be nit-picking at the moment.
Its an easy piece to overlook if it wasn't intentionally changed for convenience sake.

I don't have any problem with it, if it helps the story, do it. Besides stating this way way way back in comic 119, who would know for sure if it would matter later.

Wildy is Dan's oldest and closest friend and has been since they were kids.  It'd be pretty hard not to know he's spending time learning to be an adventurer and then is setting off to do various adventures and still retain that title.  The story-arch where Wildy disguised herself as Shaman was actually the first time she had ever been on an adventure with Dan...and with reasons.

If you really want to view it as an error on my part, feel more than free.  However I don't see how someone giving a friend a gift to help keep them safe and then later on thinking they are coming back weaving over-exxaggerated tales of their exploits a continuity error.

-does the I'm Right Dance, which looks alot like sitting in a chair and grinning-
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Paladin Sheppard on February 08, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
Quote from: rt on February 08, 2008, 07:34:55 PM
Bah continiuity, continiuity, continiuity.

Your forgetting the important part .. chainmail bikini clad ladies!! (or chainmail lionclothed guys where preffered)


Finally someone with their head on straight! Bring on the girls!! >:3 *runs away before rotten fruit is thrown at him*
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: Paladin Sheppard on February 08, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
Quote from: rt on February 08, 2008, 07:34:55 PM
Bah continiuity, continiuity, continiuity.

Your forgetting the important part .. chainmail bikini clad ladies!! (or chainmail lionclothed guys where preffered)


Finally someone with their head on straight! Bring on the girls!! >:3 *runs away before rotten fruit is thrown at him*

Hear hear! Let's see some buxom bounties beating baddies bearing bawdy bikinis! D=<
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: AnizInDisguise on February 08, 2008, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: Paladin Sheppard on February 08, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
Quote from: rt on February 08, 2008, 07:34:55 PM
Bah continiuity, continiuity, continiuity.

Your forgetting the important part .. chainmail bikini clad ladies!! (or chainmail lionclothed guys where preffered)


Finally someone with their head on straight! Bring on the girls!! >:3 *runs away before rotten fruit is thrown at him*

Hear hear! Let's see some buxom bounties beating baddies bearing bawdy bikinis! D=<

I'm with you brother!

Also, the picture on the last page, you gotta love it.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 11:26:03 PM
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on February 08, 2008, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: Paladin Sheppard on February 08, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
Finally someone with their head on straight! Bring on the girls!! >:3 *runs away before rotten fruit is thrown at him*

Hear hear! Let's see some buxom bounties beating baddies bearing bawdy bikinis! D=<

I'm with you brother!

Also, the picture on the last page, you gotta love it.

-hands Aniz another stack of paperwork- ;D There you go, big guy.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Azlan on February 09, 2008, 02:09:40 AM
I prefer my mail loincloths made from Elven chain.  Beware the one's made of old school drow elven chain... they are bad for use during sunny days at the beach.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Valynth on February 09, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
Okay, clearly there is too much happiness surrounding the idea of a chain mail bikini/lion cloth and as such I am here to destroy all that by pointing out a simple fact: Chain mail chafes badly.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: pyrohamster on February 09, 2008, 02:39:06 AM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 11:26:03 PM
Quote from: AnizInDisguise on February 08, 2008, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 08, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Hear hear! Let's see some buxom bounties beating baddies bearing bawdy bikinis! D=<

I'm with you brother!

Also, the picture on the last page, you gotta love it.

-hands Aniz another stack of paperwork- ;D There you go, big guy.
Aniz, you really should have started that paperwork a few years ago. tsk tsk tsk.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: WhiteFox on February 09, 2008, 02:59:20 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 09, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
Okay, clearly there is too much happiness surrounding the idea of a chain mail bikini/lion cloth and as such I am here to destroy all that by pointing out a simple fact: Chain mail chafes badly.

Depends on the chainmaille. Hardcore, medieval chainmaille was pretty rough. On the other hand, round wire, saw cut links feel oh so smooooth.

Some nice, .6 mil. stainless steel, eighth-inch diameter links, silky smooth and cool on your skin...

*Thunderbolt'd*

Right. Sorry. But it is more of a bite or pinch than a chafe.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: kaskar on February 09, 2008, 05:25:36 AM

   8) Did Dark Pegasus ever sell a line of " Kink " ...

   (http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w68/kaskar_photos/Vol152.jpg)
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:07:36 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 09, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
Okay, clearly there is too much happiness surrounding the idea of a chain mail bikini/lion cloth and as such I am here to destroy all that by pointing out a simple fact: Chain mail chafes badly.
Well, there would be a layer of fur in between.  Although it might make things worse if it tangles.  I don't remember what the stuff looks like close up.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 07:41:26 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:07:36 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 09, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
Okay, clearly there is too much happiness surrounding the idea of a chain mail bikini/lion cloth and as such I am here to destroy all that by pointing out a simple fact: Chain mail chafes badly.
Well, there would be a layer of fur in between.  Although it might make things worse if it tangles.  I don't remember what the stuff looks like close up.

http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg (http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg) There you go. A chainmail bikini, with apparently absolutely nothing under it. Not even padding. Apparently there's no danger of nipple-pinching, or I'm sure she'd be wearing something under the top.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:45:21 AM
Quotehttp://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg (http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg) There you go. A chainmail bikini, with apparently absolutely nothing under it. Not even padding. Apparently there's no danger of nipple-pinching, or I'm sure she'd be wearing something under the top.

I was really hoping for a closeup of some medieval chainmail so we could see the structure...
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:45:21 AM
Quotehttp://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg (http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg) There you go. A chainmail bikini, with apparently absolutely nothing under it. Not even padding. Apparently there's no danger of nipple-pinching, or I'm sure she'd be wearing something under the top.

I was really hoping for a closeup of some medieval chainmail so we could see the structure...

There is no generalized structure, it varied depending on who was making it, and it still does today. The only thing in common is the fact it's a bunch of chain links interlooping. Granted, you could pick the most stereotypical and go with that for debate's sake.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: WhiteFox on February 09, 2008, 10:50:43 AM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:45:21 AM
I was really hoping for a closeup of some medieval chainmail so we could see the structure...
There is no generalized structure, it varied depending on who was making it, and it still does today. The only thing in common is the fact it's a bunch of chain links interlooping. Granted, you could pick the most stereotypical and go with that for debate's sake.

Um... no.

Medieval chainmaille armor, almost exclusivly, used the european 4-in-1 pattern. It looks like this:
Four-in-one (http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/pics/67euro4in1.jpg) Rarely, they made 6-in-1, a very similar pattern: Six in one example (http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/pics/16400euro6-contract-sheet.jpg).
The method for making links was pretty labor intensive, since they couldn't  just walk down to the hardware store and buy some wire: Curl a sheet of metal into a tube, then chisel of the end of the tube to get a ring.

Here's a tutorial on making riveted chainmaille. This guy here is using links made from round wire, coiled around a mandril.
Riveting chainmaille (http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=9868#riveting)

Japanese chainmaille was actually plates with holes in them connected with links. It wasn't really chainmaille. These days, people make a variant made entirely with rings that looks like this: Japanese 4-in-1 (http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/pics/sm84jap4.jpg) and 6-in-1 (http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/pics/sm82jap6.jpg) Imagine the flat rings as square/hexagonal plates with holes punched in the corners, and you have the original style.

In early renaissance, chainmaille started getting used as jewelry. Chains emerged, like byzantine (http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/21530silver-plated_byzantine_necklace3.jpg) and persian (http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/16262necklas.jpg). (The names are modern conventions, btw. They're not actually from Byzantine or Persia.)

Nowadays, there are hundreds of weaves that people have come up with. Back in medieval era, they mostly only used the 4 in 1 pattern for armor. Chainmaille was either worn under plate to cover the joints, or as a head to knees haubrek.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:45:21 AM
Quotehttp://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg (http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg) There you go. A chainmail bikini, with apparently absolutely nothing under it. Not even padding. Apparently there's no danger of nipple-pinching, or I'm sure she'd be wearing something under the top.

I was really hoping for a closeup of some medieval chainmail so we could see the structure...

Are you -complaining- ??
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
Are you -complaining- ??

Call it a one-track mind...
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2008, 12:58:52 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 07:41:26 AM
http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg (http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg) There you go. A chainmail bikini, with apparently absolutely nothing under it. Not even padding. Apparently there's no danger of nipple-pinching, or I'm sure she'd be wearing something under the top.

Arguable. I know a number of people who would be interested in wearing one only if it -was- pinching...

Anyway, I like the shirt on the guy. Distracted me away from the prettier content for a while...
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Reese Tora on February 09, 2008, 02:29:35 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 07:41:26 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:07:36 AM
Quote from: Valynth on February 09, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
Okay, clearly there is too much happiness surrounding the idea of a chain mail bikini/lion cloth and as such I am here to destroy all that by pointing out a simple fact: Chain mail chafes badly.
Well, there would be a layer of fur in between.  Although it might make things worse if it tangles.  I don't remember what the stuff looks like close up.

http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg (http://hmtk.com/blog/showthread_files/BradChainmail1.jpg) There you go. A chainmail bikini, with apparently absolutely nothing under it. Not even padding. Apparently there's no danger of nipple-pinching, or I'm sure she'd be wearing something under the top.

Well, maile is usually worn with a paded jacket to help protect against impact (maile is only really good against cutting... piercing can split links unless they're riveted, and a solid blunt force translates through with almost no reduction fo force)

I always envisioned that furred creatures would need to wear some sort of canvas or cloth layer between the armor and them to prevent stray fur from passing through the weave and getting pulled.  With modern welded steel links, threre would still be that danger of pulled fur, though bare skin would no longer have to worry about being poked or scratched by rivets.(fun fact: modern maile can be considered reversible, but mideval riveted maile had a distinct inside and outside due to the rivets)
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 07:58:07 PM
Quote from: WhiteFox on February 09, 2008, 10:50:43 AM
Quote from: Kayriel on February 09, 2008, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on February 09, 2008, 07:45:21 AM
I was really hoping for a closeup of some medieval chainmail so we could see the structure...
There is no generalized structure, it varied depending on who was making it, and it still does today. The only thing in common is the fact it's a bunch of chain links interlooping. Granted, you could pick the most stereotypical and go with that for debate's sake.

Um... no.

Medieval chainmaille armor, almost exclusivly, used the european 4-in-1 pattern. It looks like this:
Four-in-one (http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/pics/67euro4in1.jpg) Rarely, they made 6-in-1, a very similar pattern: Six in one example (http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/pics/16400euro6-contract-sheet.jpg).
The method for making links was pretty labor intensive, since they couldn't  just walk down to the hardware store and buy some wire: Curl a sheet of metal into a tube, then chisel of the end of the tube to get a ring.

Here's a tutorial on making riveted chainmaille. This guy here is using links made from round wire, coiled around a mandril.
Riveting chainmaille (http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=9868#riveting)

Japanese chainmaille was actually plates with holes in them connected with links. It wasn't really chainmaille. These days, people make a variant made entirely with rings that looks like this: Japanese 4-in-1 (http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/pics/sm84jap4.jpg) and 6-in-1 (http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/pics/sm82jap6.jpg) Imagine the flat rings as square/hexagonal plates with holes punched in the corners, and you have the original style.

In early renaissance, chainmaille started getting used as jewelry. Chains emerged, like byzantine (http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/21530silver-plated_byzantine_necklace3.jpg) and persian (http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/16262necklas.jpg). (The names are modern conventions, btw. They're not actually from Byzantine or Persia.)

Nowadays, there are hundreds of weaves that people have come up with. Back in medieval era, they mostly only used the 4 in 1 pattern for armor. Chainmaille was either worn under plate to cover the joints, or as a head to knees haubrek.

And yet I've found so many hauberks, chain shirts, full-chains, and chain inserts that are either subtly or vastly different from what you're describing, that in my experience, I couldn't say there was one single way in creation overall. If you know better, jolly good, friend. =P

And yes Reese, I know. I was mentioning more the fact that aside from the mail, she's nude from the waist up while wearing the chain - meaning that unless Ilearch is right about the style of chainmail bikinis we see today, and the people who wear them actually wearing them FOR some sort of constant nipple-pinching/pulling sensation, they're crafted so as not to BE pinchy etc. which would mean furres could wear them directly over their fur without issue.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on February 09, 2008, 08:07:12 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong. Not -everyone- who wears chainmail is wearing it for that.

In fact, I'd hesitate to suggest more than 50%, if that.

As for over fur... maybe. If you don't mind the odd strand being caught in the links. Fur is a lot more "grabby" than skin - for example, whilst you might see a chainmail -bra- with no padding, I'll bet you don't see a chainmail -brief- in the same fashion. Unless said wearer has shaved, it'd hurt.

... Of course, see back to the earlier suggestion, but that sort of thing tends to be done in private, even if there -are- cameras in the room...
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: pyrohamster on February 09, 2008, 09:29:37 PM
I like Wildy's hair braided.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Naldru on February 10, 2008, 01:03:57 AM
If you were to put a thin cloth layer and sew it to the chain mail, you wouldn't be able to see it in the strips but it would still stop the pinches.

I seem to recall a set of advertisements for Hanes or Fruit of the Loom for which the basic concept was that it's hard to be a superhero if your underwear binds.  This thread reminded me of those advertisements.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2008, 01:13:43 AM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on February 08, 2008, 10:45:23 AM
I like the way Wildy's tail hasn't yet been made red yet.
Yay!  I'm not the only one to notice that.

Oh, I'm sorry.  Was I supposed to post something relating to the current thread? :P
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Aleolus on February 10, 2008, 11:58:24 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2008, 01:13:43 AM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on February 08, 2008, 10:45:23 AM
I like the way Wildy's tail hasn't yet been made red yet.
Yay!  I'm not the only one to notice that.

Oh, I'm sorry.  Was I supposed to post something relating to the current thread? :P

Actually, I like her tail better red.  Is smexier!
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: e_voyager on February 10, 2008, 12:44:28 PM
i like both but then as long as her personalty hasn't changed then i'm happy. i'm easy to please that way.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Kayriel on February 10, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: Aleolus on February 10, 2008, 11:58:24 AM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2008, 01:13:43 AM
Quote from: Dannysaysnoo on February 08, 2008, 10:45:23 AM
I like the way Wildy's tail hasn't yet been made red yet.
Yay!  I'm not the only one to notice that.

Oh, I'm sorry.  Was I supposed to post something relating to the current thread? :P

Actually, I like her tail better red.  Is smexier!

Everyone likes her tail red, but that's not the point. She had surgery to get the tail done within the current timeline, this is before the comic where she got the tail done as "Shaman".
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2008, 11:16:11 PM
Yeah, I apparently didn't include that, yes, I know Wildy didn't have the colorful red tail to begin with.
Title: Re: 02/08/08 [DMFA #876] - +5 chainmail bikinis...mmmmm
Post by: kaskar on February 10, 2008, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: Madd the Sane on February 10, 2008, 11:16:11 PM
Yeah, I apparently didn't include that, yes, I know Wildy didn't have the colorful red tail to begin with.

    8) So, it was Tail-or made, eh ...