So... Cyra really hasn't spoken to anybody in a while, huh?
"Only Destania remains"
Hurm. Wait... but...? Huh?
This begs the question to be asked...
Id De doing what she'd doing of her own will or is she doing what Cyra wants?
Oh and Dan has one HOT grandmother.
What... she is hot.
From what I gather Dee is her last DIRECT descendant so likely a daughter she had before hitting tri wing. Whelp clearly Fa'Lina and Cyra have one thing in common, love for GRANBABIES.
My word... she's a chatterbox, isn't she?
Okay, apparently Destania no longer dreams, Dan is Cyra's grandson, only Dan and Destania are direct descendants of her though that doesn't preclude there being more Cyras out there... quite a bit for us to take in. But Cyra seems nice so far.
Okay, what song is Amber referencing this time?
EDIT: Bummer, beaten to the punch. Oh well.
So... not great great great great great grandmother... Instead, Cyra is simply Dan's grandmother.
Now, why would it be that she cannot communicate except in dreams? (That is, it's said that the reason she is no longer in contact with Destinia is solely because Destinia no longer dreams.)
Now move out of the way, Dan, so that we can read the rest! :)
Wow, for once I was actually right predicting something from earlier
still, Dan being Cyra's grandson does kinda mean that there are quite a few possibilities and so on for the clan to rebuild itself
oh, and....... is it only me being sorta freaked out by her lack of eyes?
Huh, I forgot that even clan leaders can be laid back and casual.
I would like to know all of what was said in that wall of text, but I'm guessing it's nothing more than random nonsence that Amber made up to make it look like Cyra is blathering on.
Athough I would love to be wrong if Amber graiciouly provides the text
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on May 16, 2009, 02:52:17 AM
So... not great great great great great grandmother... Instead, Cyra is simply Dan's grandmother.
Now, why would it be that she cannot communicate except in dreams? (That is, it's said that the reason she is no longer in contact with Destinia is solely because Destinia no longer dreams.)
Now move out of the way, Dan, so that we can read the rest! :)
If we ask Amber nicely enough she might post that wall-o-text here. I wanna know what Cyra was saying.
Unfortunately even in his dreams Dan is as impatient as ever.
I mean it is his grandmother... the amount of info that can be talked out of her is endless.
She must have all sorts of embarrassing/funny secrets about De that we don't know about.
For instance me... I learned where my love for fire came from... not my father's side but from my mother's side because I was talking to my grandmother and it came up. I'm still laughing today after figuring out what my mom set fire to...
As to communicating in dreams, I'm guessing it has to do with psychic masking. I am guessing going by what Fi said earlier (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_422.php) that the Cyra clan has a higher psychic masking ability than most other clans. This trait passed on down along the line making them harder to find/detect by conventional means.
Quote from: Buhamet on May 16, 2009, 02:54:23 AM
oh, and....... is it only me being sorta freaked out by her lack of eyes?
you call them freaky... I call them mysterious, enchanting and cool.
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on May 16, 2009, 02:52:17 AM
So... not great great great great great grandmother... Instead, Cyra is simply Dan's grandmother.
Now, why would it be that she cannot communicate except in dreams? (That is, it's said that the reason she is no longer in contact with Destinia is solely because Destinia no longer dreams.)
There could still be a couple more generations between Cyra and Dan, but just calling him grandson for simplicity.
I don't think it's that she can only communicate via dreams, she just had nobody else to communicate to in dreams. Other modes of communication involve closer proximity (or telephones :mowwink ).
And so, we find that Cyra clan consists of only 3 cubi at the moment?
Well this is what I've managed to get so should do until we find out (If we do) everything she's saying :c And this is less boredem more computer scans are running and I need to kill time.
"A grandson! At long last! It has been so long since I have felt the presence of one of my descendants! So long have I -es for the -" Then can only work out the odd word.
"My apologies, It has been so long since I have had the option to communicate to one of my descendants . Only Destaina remains and she has long given up the ability to dream. Regardless, it fills my heart with joy that I have the option once again. And that I can finally meet my grandson for the first time. Albeit not Psychically but perhaps at a (safer?) point. (No idea bar the odd word now :D)"
I can also pick up she mentions destruction and it would be unwise to come in person which would make my safer guess accurate. She also mentions power and looking to something, possibly herself. So at a guess, he'd have to reach a certain stage before safe enough to see her in person as she cannot give her location away? Or even, cannot GET to where she is? Hm something to think about.
"SerseenSarts" that's what I thought the word was too. it's actually "descendants"
and "albeit not physically"... ie, they're meeting psychically right now.
I wonder what this all means in terms of power -- since a triwing founder's power "overflow" goes to their clan, does that mean that with only two others in Cyra's clan, they have considerably more power they could potentially tap into than members of a much larger clan? Just pondering this along with the significance of a certain WarpAci's sudden "growing up". Hmmmmm......
Three? But wasn't it mentioned to be one of the more powerful clans? *Blinks*
Also sure, a heck of a lot could be talked out of her... but Dan's never exactly been keen on either history nor his cubi heritage...
((On a random note, he really does have a hot grandma. x-x I wonder if he really is a grandson or just a great... GAH! So many questions...))
I'm not yet convinced that Cyra clan is only three people strong right now.
It's still possible that clans are not bloodline only.
And "only Destania remains" also can interpreted in several ways. ("only of what?")
But I agree that it is most likely.
Most powerful but almost extinct at the same time. Not impossible.
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on May 16, 2009, 03:16:07 AM
"SerseenSarts" that's what I thought the word was too. it's actually "descendants"
and "albeit not physically"... ie, they're meeting psychically right now.
I'll edit then :c
You gotta love Dan's expression in the last panel! Amber is really good at drawing awkward faces! I love it!
So Clan Cyra is really endangered too?
Typical grandmother. Sees their grandchild for the first time in a long time (or for the first time ever), and does nothing but talk talk talk talk yadayadayada.
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Quote from: Psy-Kosh on May 16, 2009, 03:16:07 AM
"SerseenSarts" that's what I thought the word was too. it's actually "descendants"
and "albeit not physically"... ie, they're meeting psychically right now.
I'll edit then :c
Well, to clarify, that's "as near as I can tell, based on squinting at the words and looking at the context". I realize now the way I said it made it sound like I had some extra authoritative info.
Wow, her affinity really is pain!
Aren't there like only a few triwings left?
So Cyra clan would be really powerful for that even it just has three members. Triwings are supposed to be nigh-godlike in power after all.
Hi, I believe it's from "Kenny Rogers, Coward of the County"
Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 02:50:55 AM
My word... she's a chatterbox, isn't she?
Okay, apparently Destania no longer dreams, Dan is Cyra's grandson, only Dan and Destania are direct descendants of her though that doesn't preclude there being more Cyras out there... quite a bit for us to take in. But Cyra seems nice so far.
Okay, what song is Amber referencing this time?
EDIT: Bummer, beaten to the punch. Oh well.
Quote from: Psy-Kosh on May 16, 2009, 03:46:56 AM
Well, to clarify, that's "as near as I can tell, based on squinting at the words and looking at the context". I realize now the way I said it made it sound like I had some extra authoritative info.
Nah don't worry it's the smiley. I have a habit of using : c but for some reason it makes a more :( face which is complately different from the intention (And never why I use the c, go figure). Also glad I wasn't the only one tot hink it was latin or something aha.
A clan of three, looks like Dan has no chance of avoiding being a incubi now. Soon a certain someone will be asking about "grandbabies".
Wait - Grandson?
Dan's just two generations separated from a clan founder? o_O
Impressive. Since the clan is not described as "functionally extinct", I suspect that there are other other members who are not directly of Cyra's descent. Also, Ink didn't seem surprised to see a Cyra 'Cubi when Dan was examined. On the other hand, I guess it can't be ruled out entirely.
If much of the clan was slain by Hizell and friends a'la Siar (but with the leader going into hiding) it would also explain Destania's problem with them. Even if it was just her direct siblings as opposed to the entire clan.
Either way, Dan is personally important to his Founder, which is pretty impressive. How tolerant she'll be of his lifestyle is another matter. And just what is she going to do when she learns it was Destania who sent her darling grandson to his near-death?
One last point, that Cyra has apparently spent millennia waiting for Dee to produce grandchildren yet not said "hello" before implies that she appear as a vision only to 'Cubi who can both dream and have a clanmark.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 06:11:02 AM
Either way, Dan is personally important to his Founder, which is pretty impressive. How tolerant she'll be of his lifestyle is another matter. And just what is she going to do when she learns it was Destania who sent her darling grandson to his near-death?
Name one Grandmother who didn't dote on their grandkids.
Quote from: Turnsky on May 16, 2009, 06:14:10 AM
Name one Grandmother who didn't dote on their grandkids.
Thinking in purely human terms, I imagine that if you were members of a particular clan or caste and you ran off with someone from a rival clan, your grandmother wouldn't be particularly impressed with you.
Regarding Cyra, I'm still thinking that she might expect Dan to "grow out of his silly ideas about not hurting people for fun" etc. If the two of them have diametrically opposite goals in life, there is going to be a certain amount of friction, no matter how much she loves him.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 06:22:03 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on May 16, 2009, 06:14:10 AM
Name one Grandmother who didn't dote on their grandkids.
Regarding Cyra, I'm still thinking that she might expect Dan to "grow out of his silly ideas about not hurting people for fun" etc. If the two of them have diametrically opposite goals in life, there is going to be a certain amount of friction, no matter how much she loves him.
them's some mighty big assumin' there pardner, considering how little we all KNOW about Cyra.
The Clan yes, but the Succubus behind the clan? not so much.
Quote from: Goatmon on May 16, 2009, 05:26:49 AM
Wait - Grandson?
Dan's just two generations separated from a clan founder? o_O
Well, Cyra
could be omitting a few (or a whole lot of) greats in there for simplicity's sake. Or not.
As for "Only Three Remain"... Well, that's open to interpretation:
Last 3 in Clan Cyra: Cyra/Destania/Daniel
Last 3 decendants of Cyra: Destania, Dan, and some other cubi
Last 3 direct decendants of Cyra: As above, but clan has more members who are of branch lines.
Last 3 members who are able to communicate coherently in this manner: In which case, Destania is really dropping the ball on maintaining a cool and unique ability...
Last 3 members who are still on the Dream Communication Friends & Family Unlimited Minutes Plan (which raises many
more questions)...
Quote from: Terrion on May 16, 2009, 06:30:18 AM
Last 3 members who are able to communicate coherently in this manner: In which case, Destania is really dropping the ball on maintaining a cool and unique ability...
The ability to dream fades with time. Destania's something like 7026 years old.
Love the expression in panel 3 But it kinda looks like Dan got hit by the "scrawny bat" again :P
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 06:37:45 AM
The ability to dream fades with time. Destania's something like 7026 years old.
Heh, my first thought was that Dee had learned to shield her dreams to avoid being chatted to death by her mother. And I wouldn't be surprised if Dan asks Abel for that in the morning.
And the question remains: Why isn't Cyra physically present? Not right here and now, but some time during Dans lifetime. Either Destania have been hiding herself and her family, or Cyra simply have no physical presence anymore. There may be other reasons, but I can't see any.
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on May 16, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
I think it's more likely to be 'Destania syndrome' where she's holed up in some unlikely place to avoid detection.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on May 16, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
I think it's more likely to be 'Destania syndrome' where she's holed up in some unlikely place to avoid detection.
or in plain sight.
Oh for the love of all that is holy Dan! Has it never occurred to you that if you would just LISTEN to what some of these people are saying you might find out something important? Stop being such a dunce! :rant
Hehe. She gets less awe-inspiring by the second. Oh well, Cyra is still awesome.
Quote from: foxxfurry on May 16, 2009, 04:04:43 AM
Hi, I believe it's from "Kenny Rogers, Coward of the County"
Or it could be from "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)" by the Beastie Boys.
(No link since Youtube apparently hates Europe or something :B)
Quote from: terrionLast 3 direct decendants of Cyra: As above, but clan has more members who are of branch lines.
So Cyra is forcing Dan to beware his aunt Morgan for she wishes to kill him off an install her daughter Pearl as the main family...
Oh wait, wrong series.
Quote from: Turnsky on May 16, 2009, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on May 16, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
I think it's more likely to be 'Destania syndrome' where she's holed up in some unlikely place to avoid detection.
or in plain sight.
Oh my god it all makes sense now!
Is it possible that the dragons decided to wipe out the Cyra clan because Destania saved one of the Siar clan from being destroyed? That would explain why both Destania and Aniz are both such head cases and it would tend to explain Destania's comments to Fa'lina (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_936.php).
Destania saves Aniz's life and ends up getting her own clan wiped out. Therefore, Destania now wants to destroy Aniz because she is so angry. Makes perfect sense to me.
Aniz has survivor guilt for his own clan and feels responsible for the destruction of Cyra's clan. It would make being in Destania's presence awkward.
My other thought is that we are going to see the events in Abel's story and the main strip interacting. This could indicate the end of Abel's story in a few months.
Perhaps Cyra doesn't approve of Destania's plans and doesn't want to risk the last few members of the clan vanishing. Perhaps Destania doesn't dream because she doesn't want to hear Cyra's comments.
Quote from: Turnsky on May 16, 2009, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on May 16, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
I think it's more likely to be 'Destania syndrome' where she's holed up in some unlikely place to avoid detection.
or in plain sight.
Yah, see, Dan really doesn't have a half-sister.. :B
Anyway, I think Cyra is stating that Dan is descended specifically from her, being a true grandson instead of just another member of the clan.
Quote from: Drathorin on May 16, 2009, 09:17:34 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on May 16, 2009, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on May 16, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
I think it's more likely to be 'Destania syndrome' where she's holed up in some unlikely place to avoid detection.
or in plain sight.
Oh my god it all makes sense now!
YES! Destania=Cyra! Of course! :B
Quote from: Ghostwish on May 16, 2009, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on May 16, 2009, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on May 16, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
No wait, speculation time: Cyra is held prisoner by the dragons, and Dee is working to release her, the hard way.
I think it's more likely to be 'Destania syndrome' where she's holed up in some unlikely place to avoid detection.
or in plain sight.
Yah, see, Dan really doesn't have a half-sister.. :B
Anyway, I think Cyra is stating that Dan is descended specifically from her, being a true grandson instead of just another member of the clan.
:shapeshifters
need i say more? >:3
She could be hiding as that plushie Aary gave dan oh so long ago, or one of the basement rats.. or even a barfly of lost lake, you never know!
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 06:11:02 AM
Either way, Dan is personally important to his Founder, which is pretty impressive. How tolerant she'll be of his lifestyle is another matter. And just what is she going to do when she learns it was Destania who sent her darling grandson to his near-death?
Now someone needs to draw a pict of Cyra holding Destania up over the blender... ;)
Of cause, Cyra may simply have found a way to hide/mask their psychic connections/emissions , which would probably a) prevent the dragons from tracing the Cyra clan via bloodlink, b) make the Cyra clan nearly impossible to detect via such means (which we've heard inkings of such a situation), and c) make it nearly impossible for Cyra to trace down her own subjects too. (it's likely Dan's own near-death situation (arguably nearer than the other near-death ones) allowed Cyra to track Dan down via pain-link)
That assumes that Destania isn't like Jin in Wapsi Square (http://wapsisquare.com/d/20090513.html). Perhaps Destania borrowed Harry Potter's cloak of invisibility and was watching the fight, ready to give DP a quick stab in the back or Dan a quick dose of healing as required. Remember that Dumbledore in the Harry Potter series was perfectly willing to sacrifice Harry, whom he loved like a son, to obtain his goal.
Remember that it was Destania who allowed Fi to get drunk.
Quote from: Deebs' giraffe on May 16, 2009, 09:20:37 AM
YES! Destania=Cyra! Of course! :B
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Nuuuu! My sanity! My precious, precious sanityyyyyyy! Nuuuuuuuuuu!
Think Cyra's lonely much?
I don't think their are only 3 in the Clan...maybe just 3 that are -directly- related to Cyra (via blood.)
Also, I'm waiting for her to pinch Dan's cheeks. :3
Maybe Cyra killed Regina and took on her rowel to keep super secret. Who would expect a evil, immature and lazy demon who Dan hates to be in fact Dan's grandmother who loves him. It's all a shared she is doing to point her identity off track.
Quote from: Garsemor on May 16, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
Maybe Cyra killed Regina and took on her rowel to keep super secret. Who would expect a evil, immature and lazy demon who Dan hates to be in fact Dan's grandmother who loves him. It's all a shared she is doing to point her identity off track.
Highly unlikely, considering we've seen (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php) Regina's (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php) thoughts in action. And if she was really Cyra, she'd have revealed herself to Dan.
maybe she's chatty becuase she hasn't spoken to anyone in so long. but that could get annoying really fast.
Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: Garsemor on May 16, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
Maybe Cyra killed Regina and took on her rowel to keep super secret. Who would expect a evil, immature and lazy demon who Dan hates to be in fact Dan's grandmother who loves him. It's all a shared she is doing to point her identity off track.
Highly unlikely, considering we've seen (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php) Regina's (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php) thoughts in action. And if she was really Cyra, she'd have revealed herself to Dan.
Cyra is a tri-wing we have know idea on what the can all do. how can you know she didn't fake her taught and if she is hiding she might not want to revel her self and blow her cover. All things can happen when it comes to Cubi tri-wings.
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Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: Garsemor on May 16, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
Maybe Cyra killed Regina and took on her rowel to keep super secret. Who would expect a evil, immature and lazy demon who Dan hates to be in fact Dan's grandmother who loves him. It's all a shared she is doing to point her identity off track.
Highly unlikely, considering we've seen (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php) Regina's (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php) thoughts in action. And if she was really Cyra, she'd have revealed herself to Dan.
Cyra is a tri-wing we have know idea on what the can all do. how can you know she didn't fake her taught and if she is hiding she might not want to revel her self and blow her cover. All things can happen when it comes to Cubi tri-wings.
Why would she fake her thoughts for an audience she does not know exists? I mean, sure, she could have known that Dan was reading her thoughts and faked them up, but in that case Cyra is an amazing actress the likes of which the world has never seen. And then there's the fact that in private Regina still acts like Regina, and not a scheming Cubi tri-wing. Edward=Aniz is believable. Regina=Cyra is not. No, Regina is Regina and Cyra is hiding somewhere where she cannot be found. Otherwise, it's just too complicated and confusing.
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Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: Garsemor on May 16, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
Maybe Cyra killed Regina and took on her rowel to keep super secret. Who would expect a evil, immature and lazy demon who Dan hates to be in fact Dan's grandmother who loves him. It's all a shared she is doing to point her identity off track.
Highly unlikely, considering we've seen (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_972.php) Regina's (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_973.php) thoughts in action. And if she was really Cyra, she'd have revealed herself to Dan.
Cyra is a tri-wing we have know idea on what the can all do. how can you know she didn't fake her taught and if she is hiding she might not want to revel her self and blow her cover. All things can happen when it comes to Cubi tri-wings.
Why would she fake her thoughts for an audience she does not know exists? I mean, sure, she could have known that Dan was reading her thoughts and faked them up, but in that case Cyra is an amazing actress the likes of which the world has never seen. And then there's the fact that in private Regina still acts like Regina, and not a scheming Cubi tri-wing. Edward=Aniz is believable. Regina=Cyra is not. No, Regina is Regina and Cyra is hiding somewhere where she cannot be found. Otherwise, it's just too complicated and confusing.
You know that since you've said that, Amber is going to come up with something completely ridiculous to surprise everyone.
Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
And then there's the fact that in private Regina still acts like Regina, and not a scheming Cubi tri-wing. Edward=Aniz is believable. Regina=Cyra is not. No, Regina is Regina and Cyra is hiding somewhere where she cannot be found. Otherwise, it's just too complicated and confusing.
Actually, I think Regina
might be Cyra. Only in strips 998 and 999, though. Destania did something very similar to Abel, after all. (But for a much more sinister purpose than Cyra seems to be doing).
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
And then there's the fact that in private Regina still acts like Regina, and not a scheming Cubi tri-wing. Edward=Aniz is believable. Regina=Cyra is not. No, Regina is Regina and Cyra is hiding somewhere where she cannot be found. Otherwise, it's just too complicated and confusing.
Actually, I think Regina might be Cyra. Only in strips 998 and 999, though. Destania did something very similar to Abel, after all. (But for a much more sinister purpose than Cyra seems to be doing).
But that's just in a dream, not in real life. So, the real Regina is still not Cyra. And yes, I find it likely that Cyra was at least somewhat manipulating Dan's dreamscape.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 16, 2009, 10:55:51 AM
maybe she's chatty becuase she hasn't spoken to anyone in so long. but that could get annoying really fast.
Or because she's a grandmother. :P
Hmm... The potential speculation opportunities make my head hurt. So, going on what I've actually seen in the comic (that I remember)...
1.) Cyra called Dan her grandson, and I did notice when she appeared that there was a significant resemblance between herself and Destania. Thus, when she refers to Dan and Destania being her only remaining descendants, I'd say that she means "direct/immediate descendants" as opposed to extended relations, clan members by marriage, etc. Basically, she might have a lot of great-great-great-great....grandchildren/nieces/nephews of some kind, but Dan and Destania are her the only ones that she considers close enough to her to be "family." Then again, there might really only be a few 'Cubi in Cyra's clan.
2.) Cyra has chosen to approach Dan psychically while he dreams, and that was apparently her preferred way to talk to Destania too. That might be because in person she has the whole "gaze upon me, mortals, and despair" thing going on, but I think it's more likely for the same reason Destania chooses not to visit: she's a major player in supernatural politics (or wars), so her presence would probably attract the attention of entities that Dan and Lost Lake (and maybe even Destania) aren't prepared to handle yet. In other words, a direct visit would blow their cover.
3.) I still haven't decided if she's going to be a loving grandmother that really wants to help him become more powerful for the sake of his own well-being, or if she's going to help him now so that he can be part of her Machiavellian schemes at a later date. Then again, she could be both. Goodness knows human grandmothers are capable of that kind of thing, so imagine what 'Cubi family machinations could be like!
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Jairus on May 16, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
And then there's the fact that in private Regina still acts like Regina, and not a scheming Cubi tri-wing. Edward=Aniz is believable. Regina=Cyra is not. No, Regina is Regina and Cyra is hiding somewhere where she cannot be found. Otherwise, it's just too complicated and confusing.
Actually, I think Regina might be Cyra. Only in strips 998 and 999, though. Destania did something very similar to Abel, after all. (But for a much more sinister purpose than Cyra seems to be doing).
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees
re: the title bar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wedmjYnTPxE
ONCE YOUVE BEEN TO BAIA, MY FRIEND! YOU NEVER RETURN!
Quote from: Arcalane on May 16, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees
Including: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildMassGuessing
Quote from: Arcalane on May 16, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees
I'll admit I said that because I was playing Devil's advocate, but given that it's a dream and we know that Cyra has been manipulating it, I'd be fascinated to see you disprove it >:3
Quote from: Kabbalist on May 16, 2009, 12:41:10 PM
I think it's more likely for the same reason Destania chooses not to visit: she's a major player in supernatural politics (or wars), so her presence would probably attract the attention of entities that Dan and Lost Lake (and maybe even Destania) aren't prepared to handle yet. In other words, a direct visit would blow their cover.
I hope she lays out the bare facts to Dan in a direct way so he'll understand. First point, Dragons will kill him if he runs into them in full 'Cubi form or with his mark visible.
Quote3.) I still haven't decided if she's going to be a loving grandmother that really wants to help him become more powerful for the sake of his own well-being, or if she's going to help him now so that he can be part of her Machiavellian schemes at a later date. Then again, she could be both. Goodness knows human grandmothers are capable of that kind of thing, so imagine what 'Cubi family machinations could be like!
This is a very real possibility. While people have noted that grandmothers tend to dote upon their grandchildren (which is true), it's possible that they may be thinking of Cyra as a human, which she isn't. In other words, we know how human/Being grandmothers view their grandchildren, and at the end of the day this has a lot to do with them continuing the line as it were.
With 'Cubi, the fact that they can live indefinitely gives the horrible possibility that someone like Cyra might plan to have children to carry out a specific purpose, the way you or I might go out and buy a power drill or something.
That's the worst case, though. It is tempered by the fact that Cyra herself can no longer have children of her own anyway, so it could go either way.
Dan is going to have a whole new hatred for the phrase "I wouldn't go out with you even if you were the last of your kind."
Quote from: Feather Dancer on May 16, 2009, 03:13:44 AM
"My apologies, It has been so long since I have had the option to communicate to one of my descendants . Only Destaina remains and she has long given up the ability to dream. Regardless, it fills my heart with joy that I have the option once again. And that I can finally meet my grandson for the first time. Albeit not Psychically but perhaps at a (safer?) point. (No idea bar the odd word now :D)"
I believe that last sentance actually reads closer to "Albeit not physically but perhaps at
some point...." don't see another 'a' in there but I could be wrong.
I second/third/fourth/whatever the motion for Amber giving us that wall-o-text! I'm always curious to learn more about stuff, and it looks interesting to read. Darn you Dan, for not paying attention! *shakes fist* xD
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 01:00:44 PM
This is a very real possibility. While people have noted that grandmothers tend to dote upon their grandchildren (which is true), it's possible that they may be thinking of Cyra as a human, which she isn't....
With 'Cubi, the fact that they can live indefinitely gives the horrible possibility that someone like Cyra might plan to have children to carry out a specific purpose, the way you or I might go out and buy a power drill or something.
That's the worst case, though. It is tempered by the fact that Cyra herself can no longer have children of her own anyway, so it could go either way.
Or both ways. I've seen and read of examples of grandmothers caring deeply for their grandchildren but also using them as pawns. Then again, sometimes grandkids bring out the best in a grandmother, at least as long as they're "good" grandchildren. Case in point: I've got a grandmother that I've been told can be a raging, contrary she-beast, but she's always been relatively sweet around me.
There's also the whole "ancient and inhumanly powerful" angle. You're very right that she might have a completely different view of morality and family than a being would. Heck, for all we know her mind could be so different as to be entirely alien by this point. That's probably taking things to the extreme, though.
I just got the feeling that Cyra's been feeling lonely :)
I hope that Dan and Dee arne't the last of their clan. I think it's more likely that it's a direct bloodline descendent thing. No one else in the canon (Fi, Falina, DP, Abel) seemed too surprised about finding another Cyra member. Though I don't think that there are all that many out there given that the dragons seem to be actively hunting them still.
THough between this and Abel's story, I wonder about Fa'lina's instruction to Abel on protecting Dan from dragons. What exactly does Fa'lina expect Abel to be able to do to protect Dan if they do run into a non-Pyroduck dragon?
I have so missed Dan's annoyed expression.
One point about the whole "Exotic hiding from the Dragons that will kill us if we make so much as one misstep." theory as to why Cyra can't/doesn't physically contact Dan is Lost lake inn itself. I can look up the comic later (I'm on a borrowed computer, and short on time.) but I distinctly recall Fa'Lina knocking Dan out with a picture of the Cyra clan symbol that was kept in Lost Lake. Fi sees it as well, when he first comes to teleport Dan to SAIA.
Now, if one is that paranoid, you probably wouldn't keep a picture of the Dragon's hated enemy just lying around in plain sight, even if it is down a basement. Destania is too canny to let something that incriminating lying around. I personally don't think that this Dragon vendetta is against Cyra clan per se, but possibly more against Destania.
Remember, we don't know exactly when that flashback of Fi's is chronologically. (The one where Destania argues with Fa'Lina about the necessity of wiping out the Dragons.) It is certainly plausible that when was at least willing to forget about it until they captured Edward for some unrelated reason, and that's what started off her big Plan O Revenge.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on May 16, 2009, 01:58:49 PM
One point about the whole "Exotic hiding from the Dragons that will kill us if we make so much as one misstep." theory as to why Cyra can't/doesn't physically contact Dan is Lost lake inn itself. I can look up the comic later (I'm on a borrowed computer, and short on time.) but I distinctly recall Fa'Lina knocking Dan out with a picture of the Cyra clan symbol that was kept in Lost Lake. Fi sees it as well, when he first comes to teleport Dan to SAIA.
Now, if one is that paranoid, you probably wouldn't keep a picture of the Dragon's hated enemy just lying around in plain sight, even if it is down a basement. Destania is too canny to let something that incriminating lying around. I personally don't think that this Dragon vendetta is against Cyra clan per se, but possibly more against Destania.
Remember, we don't know exactly when that flashback of Fi's is chronologically. (The one where Destania argues with Fa'Lina about the necessity of wiping out the Dragons.) It is certainly plausible that when was at least willing to forget about it until they captured Edward for some unrelated reason, and that's what started off her big Plan O Revenge.
Look at the 4th panel above the bed, http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_378.php , the Cyra clan symbols are not just in frames.
Quote from: Aganerral on May 16, 2009, 01:35:26 PM
I just got the feeling that Cyra's been feeling lonely :)
I hope that Dan and Dee arne't the last of their clan. I think it's more likely that it's a direct bloodline descendent thing. No one else in the canon (Fi, Falina, DP, Abel) seemed too surprised about finding another Cyra member. Though I don't think that there are all that many out there given that the dragons seem to be actively hunting them still.
THough between this and Abel's story, I wonder about Fa'lina's instruction to Abel on protecting Dan from dragons. What exactly does Fa'lina expect Abel to be able to do to protect Dan if they do run into a non-Pyroduck dragon?
Yell for help. If a fight whit a dragon brakes out he can't do much. A) he is minuscule compared to a dragon and B ) He vomits at the sight of blood. If he can do anything it's run for help or maybe serve as a distraction.
Idea to consider. Is the dragon-cubi war
really over? Or have the dragons switched strategies, and are now picking the cubi off, one clan at a time?
Or is Hizell pursuing a private vendetta?
Quote from: Garsemor on May 16, 2009, 02:04:20 PM
Look at the 4th panel above the bed, http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_378.php , the Cyra clan symbols are not just in frames.
Good spot check, Why the heck is the Cyra clan mark emblazoned on the headboard of Alexsi's bed? Possibly the bed used to be Dee's before, Dee didn't start hiding her headwings until after Dan was born. Another indication that Destania didn't feel the need to hide her clan affiliation until sometime after she settled down with Edward and had Dan.
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 16, 2009, 02:42:33 PM
Idea to consider. Is the dragon-cubi war really over? Or have the dragons switched strategies, and are now picking the cubi off, one clan at a time?
Or is Hizell pursuing a private vendetta?
I've read that the war ended thousands of years ago. That doesn't mean that there couldn't be isolated skirmishes afterwards. The Creature Council, interestingly, appears to have both a Tri-Wing and a Dragon among its members.
However I would not be surprised if they have, as you say, switched tactics. Equally it might be that Hizell is some kind of fanatic who thinks that they shouldn't have called it off. (Though the same could equally be said of Destania)
QuoteGood spot check, Why the heck is the Cyra clan mark emblazoned on the headboard of Alexsi's bed? Possibly the bed used to be Dee's before, Dee didn't start hiding her headwings until after Dan was born.
That's almost certainly Dee's bed. My guess is that before or after she married she went back to SAIA to hand in her notice and retrieve whatever family heirlooms she had at the Academy.
Dangerous thing to have around, though. If the dragons hate Cyra's clan that much, they might see the insignia and kill Alexsi on general principle.
"Seriously Ducky, what reason would you possibly want to be near the kill zone that makes up Destina's family?"
Source, I remembered nearly word for word scarily. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_729.php)
I think it's more of a Dee vs. Dragons rather than the Cyra clan it's self given she directly mentioned Dee's family. Possibly somewhat originally sparked from Aniz no doubt breaking up with her after his clan was destroyed? Plus Bigg's mentioned Dee'd been a friend of the family for generations...
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 16, 2009, 02:56:18 PM
Dangerous thing to have around, though. If the dragons hate Cyra's clan that much, they might see the insignia and kill Alexsi on general principle.
I've always thought the symbols might have been something akin to magical detection/scry wards that concealed the presence of the family, specifically Dan, from those searching for Crya's ilk. A sort of compromise, protecting one from the magical location spells, but having to be out and visible. Which in most ways is fine, if they have no reason to search a place then those looking will never visually see the symbols.
Fi states that because Dan is of Crya's clan they weren't able to detect him (#422)... I originally assumed it was possibly a ward because I was considering magical non-detection, even if magical ability is inherent, as an active "spell" one would have to maintain. Considering that dragons are hunting her and the remains of her clan, maintaining such for those one wishes to protect, would have left herself open to detection due to the use of magic. Since I have no concrete evidence for how magic worked at the time, or any specific insight into the nature of magical things, this seemed logical... working off of magical theories from fictional sources such as David Eddings, Mercedes Lackey, Terry Brooks, etc.
However, having revealed that detection is not so easy even for dragons, as Hizell needed Siar's essence to hunt down the last vestiges of her clan, it makes me believe that one requires a 'scent' of the prey to be able to sniff them out. This may mean that 'Cubi are magically stealthy creatures by nature... or dragons just fail at divination style magics.
It may also be that the wars are largely over, except for a few old grudges that are being actively pursued. Aary wasn't specifically worried about wandering around in public... but since there is not a lot of public scenes and even less 'Cubi (except at SAIA of course), it is just a personal theory at the moment.
On the thought that Cyra is in a shapeshifting disguise:
It would explain why Pip attacks Dan whenever he flirts with one of the few races that can't (safely) reproduce with Cubi.
And working together with Mab on her secret goal, which includes Jyrras' mining tools helping Beings defend themselves against Creatures... Gasp! They want to 'mine' the Dragons!
Quote from: Lucheek on May 16, 2009, 12:09:42 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 16, 2009, 10:55:51 AM
maybe she's chatty becuase she hasn't spoken to anyone in so long. but that could get annoying really fast.
Or because she's a grandmother. :P
statistically the older you get the less physical/emotional contact you receive, so the argument still stands.
Quote from: Ganurath on May 16, 2009, 04:21:36 PM
On the thought that Cyra is in a shapeshifting disguise:
It would explain why Pip attacks Dan whenever he flirts with one of the few races that can't (safely) reproduce with Cubi.
Nice one! The possibilities are endless.
Um, guys? I think there's a much simpler reason for Cyra not being in contact with Destania.
After a while, 'Cubi in general don't need to sleep.
No sleep, no dreams.
No dreams, no Cyra chit-chat.
Otherwise, yeah, I kinda agree with the idea of Cyra meaning direct descendants. I mean, who knows how many kids she had, and it's possible nearly all of her kids were killed in the 'Cubi/Dragon wars. Or, if her grandkids were all told how to not dream immediately after coming to power, or, as they got older, just slept less and less until they were just up around the clock without really noticing when that happened. . . Actually, that last is kind of an amusing thought. One way to get term papers done, I suppose. :3
Quote from: kazzellin on May 16, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Um, guys? I think there's a much simpler reason for Cyra not being in contact with Destania.
After a while, 'Cubi in general don't need to sleep.
No sleep, no dreams.
No dreams, no Cyra chit-chat.
Otherwise, yeah, I kinda agree with the idea of Cyra meaning direct descendants. I mean, who knows how many kids she had, and it's possible nearly all of her kids were killed in the 'Cubi/Dragon wars. Or, if her grandkids were all told how to not dream immediately after coming to power, or, as they got older, just slept less and less until they were just up around the clock without really noticing when that happened. . . Actually, that last is kind of an amusing thought. One way to get term papers done, I suppose. :3
Dan complained about insomnia the evening his wing tentacles manifested. Cyra got lucky, I think, Dan's fight brought out his clan mark and enabled Cyra to sense him. And his blood loss made him sleepy again and he can still dream.
Quote from: Arcalane on May 16, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees
Goddamnit, you got me started on a 2 hour archive binge! >:[
I'd start with the middle panel of #501, then... ;)
And where did Jyrras get the source materials for the patch shown in panel 4 of #246?? ;)
Quote from: kazzellin on May 16, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Um, guys? I think there's a much simpler reason for Cyra not being in contact with Destania.
After a while, 'Cubi in general don't need to sleep.
No sleep, no dreams.
I think you may be getting the cause and effect backwards there.
'Cubi don't need to sleep, but they
can. Abel does, for example, and it's likely that virtually all 'Cubi who choose to live as Beings will also do so purely to keep up the disguise.
However, the ability to dream fades with time. We don't know how long that takes. When they can no longer dream, Cyra's trick is not going to work for them. They also tend to stop bothering to sleep at this point.
You know, the fertility issue with clan founders makes me wonder something, especially since science is starting to advance in Furrae.
I wonder if anyone has thought about trying to clone Cubi. >:3
Quote from: Alondro on May 17, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
I wonder if anyone has thought about trying to clone Cubi. >:3
I did. I'm assuming that you get just the genetic parts, or in other words, a Being.
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Quote from: Alondro on May 17, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
I wonder if anyone has thought about trying to clone Cubi. >:3
I did. I'm assuming that you get just the genetic parts, or in other words, a Being.
Congratulations! I didn't know you got written into Amber's cannon.
Woot, grats! :3
Quote from: Drathorin on May 17, 2009, 12:59:59 PM
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Quote from: Alondro on May 17, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
I wonder if anyone has thought about trying to clone Cubi. >:3
I did. I'm assuming that you get just the genetic parts, or in other words, a Being.
Congratulations! I didn't know you got written into Amber's cannon.
Woot, grats! :3
he bribed her. >:3
Quote from: Turnsky on May 17, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
Quote from: Drathorin on May 17, 2009, 12:59:59 PM
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Quote from: Alondro on May 17, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
I wonder if anyone has thought about trying to clone Cubi. >:3
I did. I'm assuming that you get just the genetic parts, or in other words, a Being.
Congratulations! I didn't know you got written into Amber's cannon.
Woot, grats! :3
he bribed her. >:3
For as much as my dad paid for a 1984 honda goldwing I hear
Quote from: Drathorin on May 17, 2009, 12:59:59 PM
Congratulations! I didn't know you got written into Amber's cannon.
The question was "Did anyone think about it?". Nothing was said about canon.
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Magic is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Science's organized spreadsheets and pie-charts. :<
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 17, 2009, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: Alondro on May 17, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
I wonder if anyone has thought about trying to clone Cubi. >:3
I did. I'm assuming that you get just the genetic parts, or in other words, a Being.
There are three ways to become a member of a human clan
- Be born into it
- Marry into it
- Be adopted into it
The first obviously works for Cubi clans, the second probably doesn't.
As for the third... I recall mention of there being a magic ritual or techique for transforming a Being into a Cubi. Not much used, because seldom needed, but for a clan nearly wiped out ... Especially with the tri-wing still surviving... A form of adoption might be possible.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 17, 2009, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: kazzellin on May 16, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Um, guys? I think there's a much simpler reason for Cyra not being in contact with Destania.
After a while, 'Cubi in general don't need to sleep.
No sleep, no dreams.
I think you may be getting the cause and effect backwards there.
'Cubi don't need to sleep, but they can. Abel does, for example, and it's likely that virtually all 'Cubi who choose to live as Beings will also do so purely to keep up the disguise.
However, the ability to dream fades with time. We don't know how long that takes. When they can no longer dream, Cyra's trick is not going to work for them. They also tend to stop bothering to sleep at this point.
I was thinking it has more to do with an individual 'Cubi's mindset. Cyra is dreaming at this time, and she's got to be far far older than Destania. I'm guessing that should Destania choose to sleep, Cyra doesn't want to make direct subconscious-to-subconscious contact with a psychopath of Destania's implied magnitude. That's a very fast way to mess up your own head.
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 17, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Magic is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Science's organized spreadsheets and pie-charts. :<
Science is the boot that kicks Magic square in the nuts.
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 16, 2009, 04:44:08 PM
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Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on May 16, 2009, 10:55:51 AM
maybe she's chatty becuase she hasn't spoken to anyone in so long. but that could get annoying really fast.
Or because she's a grandmother. :P
statistically the older you get the less physical/emotional contact you receive, so the argument still stands.
But isn't dan considered a 6 year old by cubi standard?
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 17, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Magic is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Science's organized spreadsheets and pie-charts. :<
Magic views science as a "suggestion" rather than a law, I take it? I believe my exact expression was something along the lines of "magic violates science in so many ways it's not even funny."
To be fair, eventually magic has to become a science. Studying of magical laws, which ingredients work best in which potion, how to say the worlds and construct the magic circles... all of that is science in its own way. But from what you're saying, magic is too chaotic to nail it down like that? But then we know that science can be brought in: Jyrras has combined magic and science at least once, and created a (limited?) mass-production computer-controlled shapeshifting/illusion spell that anyone - regardless of magical talent - can use. Is that unique in Furrae, and no one has ever attempted/successfully done that before?
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 17, 2009, 01:38:37 PM
There are three ways to become a member of a human clan
- Be born into it
- Marry into it
- Be adopted into it
Right. This is
going back to 2005 (http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum1863.htm#ref4), so it's possible Amber has rethought it since. But:
"Clans can be switched over through a particular marriage process or being adopted, but the ties behind it to the individual being adopted are often weaker. However any children born under that clan title would get full benefit. Meaning if Cubi A who is from a weak clan marries Cubi B who is from a living-founder clan. Cubi A gets more power though not as much as if they were a natural. However children from Cubi A and B will be passed onto full benefits. "
Though this is straying a little from Alondro's question :P
Quote from: Shachza on May 17, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
I was thinking it has more to do with an individual 'Cubi's mindset. Cyra is dreaming at this time, and she's got to be far far older than Destania. I'm guessing that should Destania choose to sleep, Cyra doesn't want to make direct subconscious-to-subconscious contact with a psychopath of Destania's implied magnitude. That's a very fast way to mess up your own head.
Dan's dreaming, but I doubt that goes both ways. Cyra's most likely wide awake.
That and we simply don't know whether she considers Destania to be completely bugnuts, well-adjusted or a bit of a tearaway...
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 17, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Magic is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Science's organized spreadsheets and pie-charts. :<
Bah! Chaos is just order too complex for you mortals to understand! There is a method to madness, and it is far too sophisticated to be summarized with a meer "giant frog."
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 17, 2009, 02:02:25 PM
Dan's dreaming, but I doubt that goes both ways. Cyra's most likely wide awake.
That and we simply don't know whether she considers Destania to be completely bugnuts, well-adjusted or a bit of a tearaway...
We don't even know how current Cyra's knowledge of her daughter is. Destania disappeared and was thought dead over twenty years ago. Cyra undoubtedly knew her daughter was still alive, because of the connection between them, but that would not tell her much else.
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 17, 2009, 02:58:25 PM
We don't even know how current Cyra's knowledge of her daughter is. Destania disappeared and was thought dead over twenty years ago. Cyra undoubtedly knew her daughter was still alive, because of the connection between them, but that would not tell her much else.
Tricky. That could go either way. I was thinking more of Destania's behaviour in the academy, rather than the last 25 years. Being in the Academy might itself disrupt the comms link, owing to the magical barrier and all. Then again, we have the idea of a Siar-Cyra alliance so the clan leaders presumably knew what was happening then. Also, Destania seems to have a reputation even outside the Academy, not least because she's been teaching people how to commit atrocities. Though if Cyra's in hiding, she isn't necessarily going to get much gossip.
I was going to say that Cyra knew Dan existed, but looking at the strip again, that's completely wrong. In 1002 she actually has gone "OMG! Grandson!" though in a rather more flowery manner. So at the end of the day, it would seem her knowledge of Destania is at least 25 years out of date.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 17, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
I was going to say that Cyra knew Dan existed, but looking at the strip again, that's completely wrong. In 1002 she actually has gone "OMG! Grandson!" though in a rather more flowery manner. So at the end of the day, it would seem her knowledge of Destania is at least 25 years out of date.
She did know Dan's name, though I suppose she could have picked that up from his dream before she made her entrance. Still,
"Hello Daniel. It is good to finally meet you." suggests she's known of at least his existence for a while. Perhaps her link with Dee allowed Cyra to sense that her daughter had a successful pregnancy? So she knew that she had a grandchild, but no more.
"A grandson! At long last! It has been so long since I have felt the presence of one of my descendants! So long have I ..."Yeah "OMG! Grandson!" covers it. Grandma needs a hug.
Quote from: Ganurath on May 17, 2009, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 17, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Magic is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Science's organized spreadsheets and pie-charts. :<
Bah! Chaos is just order too complex for you mortals to understand! There is a method to madness, and it is far too sophisticated to be summarized with a meer "giant frog."
Quote from: Exalted Compass of Celestial Directions the Wyld, page 23"Pure Chaos does just flout the laws of nature, it flouts them insanely. This is part of what drives onlookers mad: nothing can be relied upon, nothing follows logically. ... Worst of all, it almost, almost makes sense, and the viewer is left feeling that a moment longer would allow her to understand. That understanding, of course, is the first sign you are going mad."
I got my eye on you Ganurath... :spidey
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 17, 2009, 03:56:18 PM
Yeah "OMG! Grandson!" covers it. Grandma needs a hug.
And I
would like to give her a hug. A big one. For a very long time. :D
Quote from: Shachza on May 17, 2009, 04:48:34 PMI got my eye on you Ganurath... :spidey
*looks at title* Still disciple of Slaanesh, Chaos god(dess) of pleasure and excess...
*looks at sig* Still a daemonette born of the Warp followed by Slaaneshi dogma...
*looks at avatar* Still a demon-warped psychotic demideity of sadistic cultists in the form of a child with an unhealthy passion for plushies...
*looks at undertext* Still villainous laughter...
...I need to be less subtle. I'll start with the manner by which I bring this post on-topic: I do not believe that Cyra will prove to be a sympathetic character, because she is the
mother of all pain.
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 17, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Science is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Magic's organized spellbooks and runic circles. :<
Fixed. :B
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 17, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Magic and Science have never been the best of friends. Magic is just too chaotic and wacky and keeps leaving its socks all over Science's organized spreadsheets and pie-charts. :<
But isn't that what makes it fun to try? No way to know the outcome! It's a mad scientist's dream come true! :mwaha
I just love the expression on Dan's face in the last panel , I swear you could enjoy this comic even if you did not read a word of english . :giggle