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Title: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: AndersW on April 21, 2007, 11:10:51 PM
Cid is having a Heart attack I think.  This doesn't look good at all.  If Cid dies, Abel is going to feel totally helpless.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Kenji on April 21, 2007, 11:11:35 PM
Nonsense, he's obviously got a chest burster. It's that darned egg salad, I swear...

EDIT: ChestBURSTER, not burger... X3
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: bill on April 21, 2007, 11:12:04 PM
Delightfully mundane.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: techmaster-glitch on April 21, 2007, 11:13:04 PM
OH TEH NOES! Heart attack! DON'T DIE ON US CID!
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: bill on April 21, 2007, 11:13:56 PM
Call Gregory House!  :cry
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Manawolf on April 21, 2007, 11:22:49 PM
There you go, riling up the old man's blood.  Thanks for making Abel's worst day of his life all the more horrible.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Fuyudenki on April 21, 2007, 11:23:41 PM
Wait, I've seen this before, on Superman!

My guess is that Cid dies, and the story behind Abel's conception becomes irrelevant, so nobody ever finds out.

Or Cid dies, and May explains everything to Abel before kicking the bucket herself because she's lost the will to live.

or the next Abel comic is another fast-forward to Abel's enrollment at SAIA.

Actually, I'm putting my money on D: None of the Above.  The mere fact that I've suggested any of them automatically makes all of them invalid.

Shame for Abel, though.  As if his life weren't rough enough at this point.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Nino on April 21, 2007, 11:25:01 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on April 21, 2007, 11:13:56 PM
Call Gregory House!  :cry

WIN

Edit: Though House is a diagnostician, and it's clearly a heart attack, with most likely a simple cause. But it does seem like an opening scene from the show =P
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 21, 2007, 11:28:35 PM
I gotta say, I love the EKG background in panel 5.  And the return of the ring.

Speculation later, when I can think of some. (unless Cid's finally getting his wings)
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: techmaster-glitch on April 21, 2007, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: superluser on April 21, 2007, 11:28:35 PM
Speculation later, when I can think of some. (unless Cid's finally getting his wings)

..... Are you suggesting that Cid is about to sprout wings from his chest?!?!?  :erk
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: AndersW on April 21, 2007, 11:31:47 PM
In the last comic it showed Cid with his wedding ring, in this comic it shows May with her wedding ring. 
Just thought I'd bring it up.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: bill on April 21, 2007, 11:32:19 PM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 21, 2007, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: superluser on April 21, 2007, 11:28:35 PM
Speculation later, when I can think of some. (unless Cid's finally getting his wings)

..... Are you suggesting that Cid is about to sprout wings from his chest?!?!?  :erk
No, he's about to have an alien burst out from his chest. D:
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Zedd on April 21, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Oh frig like they say at this moment...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: bill on April 21, 2007, 11:33:24 PM
Quote from: Zedd on April 21, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Oh frig like they say at this moment...
"HOLY SHIT CALL A DOCTOR"?
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: techmaster-glitch on April 21, 2007, 11:34:04 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on April 21, 2007, 11:32:19 PM
No, he's about to have an alien burst out from his chest. D:
D: D: D: D: D:
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: kaskar on April 21, 2007, 11:37:34 PM
                What do we see next ? Cid , at the moment is looking as if he is having a heart attack, and may die, what would happen if a set of wings now sprouted out of Cid's head ? Cubi have hidden wings on their head. Is Cid a Cubi ? That would explain to many, including May, why Abel is a Cubi . Every family has it's little secrets ...........
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: nikename2 on April 21, 2007, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on April 21, 2007, 11:33:24 PM
Quote from: Zedd on April 21, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Oh frig like they say at this moment...
"HOLY SHIT CALL A DOCTOR"?

Eh, I'd call the priest, or shaman. It doesn't look like he'll last long enough for the doctor to arrive.

One thing is kinda bothering me though in the last panel, why would May's last word not have exclamation points after it unless she knew it was too late and about to burst into tears....or if it was gonna go into one of those tunnel moments for Cid where it has an inner monologe on his regrets before dying like how it was for Dan when he flatlined for a little (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_157.php) bit. (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_158.php)
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Fuyudenki on April 21, 2007, 11:41:45 PM
Oh, I forgot, and it's a bit late to go back and edit now.

Happy half-anniversary to Amber and Mason Williams.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Regal on April 21, 2007, 11:51:12 PM
Saying this is the worst day of Abel's life is such an understatement.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 21, 2007, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: BillBuckner on April 21, 2007, 11:32:19 PMNo, he's about to have an alien burst out from his chest. D:

Dear emoticon makers: Can we please have the Spaceballs chest burster dancing?

Quote from: AndersW on April 21, 2007, 11:31:47 PMIn the last comic it showed Cid with his wedding ring, in this comic it shows May with her wedding ring. 
Just thought I'd bring it up.

Already caught it, in the last thread and this one.  Perhaps symbolism that Cid's was in the last strip, and May's in this one?

Quote from: Xeksue on April 21, 2007, 11:39:47 PMOne thing is kinda bothering me though in the last panel, why would May's last word not have exclamation points after it unless she knew it was too late and about to burst into tears

Or if she were trying to calm Cid down.  Yelling things can't be helping.  After all, which would you prefer to have be your final moments?  Some guy in a liplock around you or some guy giving you a backrub (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/superluser/civildefensebackrub.jpg) (sorry, just had to do it)?

Maybe May isn't sure that Cid will make it, and is comforting him just in case.

Quote from: Fuyudenki on April 21, 2007, 11:41:45 PMOh, I forgot, and it's a bit late to go back and edit now.

Happy half-anniversary to Amber and Mason Williams.

Indeed.  I don't know what married people do on anniversaries or half-anniversaries (OK, what *other* things), but do it well.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 12:03:53 AM

        Yes, he has had a few really bad days, with death and destruction, and now , is Abel's life going to become even worse with the mental and maybe physical trauma in the family ?
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: devilsislegrl on April 22, 2007, 12:17:18 AM
NOOOOOOOO!  CLIFFHANGERS! Bwaaaaaarrghhhaaaaa...*writhes on floor in agony, then lays there, twitching*
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 12:32:26 AM
                 This Comic Strip is based around cliffhangers . From ' Janus Bond " , to Dan's Adventures, and even Abel'story . A comic relies on cliff hangeres and, of course, the good old, Bam, Thwak, Boom, etc... to get really good drama ...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: techmaster-glitch on April 22, 2007, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 12:32:26 AM
From ' Janus Bond " , to even Janus having a cold spell  in # 112 .

I think you mean "Jyrras" there...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: RJ on April 22, 2007, 12:53:06 AM
... :(

Oh noes!


And Happy 6-Month Anniversary, Amber and Mason. :) You two are awesome.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 12:55:55 AM
              Cid looks as if he is ailing fast.   What is May to do now ???
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on April 22, 2007, 01:04:36 AM
Wild Speculation: not wanting to give up his identity Cid tries to put up a smoke screen, unfortunately a heart attack being the side effect for long term transformation (I'm guessuing holding a being form for more than 20+ years has caught up with him), Cid looses control of transformation and we have another Cubi...a dead Cubi.

or Cid isn't  having a "normal"  heart attack the blood contract he made in a parallel dimension or past life is is about to reveal itself, and we now have one of those "Sailor saturn is possessed by mistress 9" deals. Wherein Cid is Saturn and the dark hand or claw guiding Kria from the shadows is none other than Cid's other personality.

or we have the three faces of eve scenario where Cid is a looney has a dissociative identity disorder , Cid was unable to cope with the reality that he was a Cubi and his mind split in half...

or Cid is a being who is dieing because Amber is or was  planning on killing off another character, because he was no longer essential to the story as anything other than dead weight. 

or Cid is the being, May is DarthVader and she is using 'the force' to crush his heart because he is arguing with her.

whatever the case may, Cid, enjoy the afterlife.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: techmaster-glitch on April 22, 2007, 01:06:06 AM
Quote from: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 12:55:55 AM
              The Jyrras character is played as if he is going to be eternally 'cute' . However, I feel that the character can be expanded quite a long way. His profile is adaptable to many conditions, apart from one . And that one is being termed " cute " by pandering females . It embarresses him, and also is harmful to his health, as he gets winded every time he is squeezed ...


....what the heck does any of that have to do with the fact(or at least freaking good acting) that Cid is having a heart attack? o_0?
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:09:30 AM
I predict more of the thought reading that Abel experienced as Devin was dying.  Which of course will send him over the edge.  Again.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 01:18:15 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on April 22, 2007, 01:06:06 AM
Quote from: kaskar on April 22, 2007, 12:55:55 AM
Sorry about that all, it seems my posts got mixed as Cid feels as if he's failing and ailing fast .....


....what the heck does any of that have to do with the fact(or at least freaking good acting) that Cid is having a heart attack? o_0?
Just hope Cid does not die on the stage ...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Cogidubnus on April 22, 2007, 01:18:33 AM
It occurs to me, much confusion has been flying about recently. Nothing to do with the old man's coronary, but Abel's favorite food nonetheless.

This sure has turned out to be a very, bad day for Mr. Sunshine. If Cid does die from a heart attack, however, I think we can rule out the Cid incubus idea. Unless he's an incubus that's been eating a breakfast, lunch and dinner diet of triple bacon cheeseburgers for the last hundred years, it's more likely that he is merely an old being, suffering from a stress-induced heart attack.

Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:09:30 AM
I predict more of the thought reading that Abel experienced as Devin was dying.  Which of course will send him over the edge.  Again.

You, my dear, are evil. I mean that in the best sense possible. >:3
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Damaris on April 22, 2007, 01:29:15 AM
kaskar, while some off topic fun is expected on this forum, your posts are habitually illegible and completely off the topic (to the point that it is such an annoyance to others that we have been recieving complaints.)

Shape up, or I'm banning you for a week.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:43:52 AM
Quote from: Cogidubnus on April 22, 2007, 01:18:33 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:09:30 AM
I predict more of the thought reading that Abel experienced as Devin was dying.  Which of course will send him over the edge.  Again.

You, my dear, are evil. I mean that in the best sense possible. >:3

It's not me.  It's the shovel.  It whispers in my ear at night.  Then again, would it be my fault that I still insist on keeping it next to the bed?  *shrug* evil begets evil, I suppose.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Nino on April 22, 2007, 01:49:43 AM
By the laws of energy, it should take energy to transform AND to transform back. So staying in being form probably doesn't TAKE energy, just to get there. Even if it did, it wouldn't make sense for Cid to change back after dying because that would definitely require energy.

Then again, when you add in magic entropy and thermodynamics go out the window.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Zedd on April 22, 2007, 02:11:13 AM
Yes its good for aniversitys! But gonna be almighty bad for Abel if his old man croaks...Had to my dad before but luckly he's still arounds for jebus sake
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Reese Tora on April 22, 2007, 02:25:24 AM
Quote from: Kattuccino on April 22, 2007, 01:49:43 AM
By the laws of energy, it should take energy to transform AND to transform back. So staying in being form probably doesn't TAKE energy, just to get there. Even if it did, it wouldn't make sense for Cid to change back after dying because that would definitely require energy.

Then again, when you add in magic entropy and thermodynamics go out the window.

That would depend on the machanism by which they transform.  It's not unreasonable that a transformation that depends on a 'cubi's concentration and conciousness to remain in effect would require a certain constant flow of energy to maintain.  If thier transformation is a sort of metaphysical twist and hold, the magical equivalent to the color change abilities of an octopus(where lots of little muscles manipulate skin color by contracting or relaxing) then it would take no energy to return to the natural state when they release the 'hold' on the form (or are caused tor elease it).  On the other hand, if the transformation is a state that must be shifted from or to, similar to the shifting of gears in a car, then you're right.

Jyrras's patches would be the first, for example, since thier removal reverts the subject.  If a cubi reverts when unconcious or dead, thier transformation would be the first as well.  If a cubi retains its form, even when slain, then it would be as you say...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: thegayhare on April 22, 2007, 02:29:25 AM
I hate to admit i but this one  was a tough one to rea... For personal reasons. 

It's odd how something like this comic can linger in the brain making you think about things...

hell I probably shouldn't post right now

I can't sleep and probably not makeing to much sense
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:43:52 AM
It's not me.  It's the shovel.  It whispers in my ear at night.  Then again, would it be my fault that I still insist on keeping it next to the bed?  *shrug* evil begets evil, I suppose.

... I feel that this particular situation is one where your sig does -not- apply, Azraelle. Of course, I could be wrong, but... :-]
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 03:26:24 AM
Quote from: thegayhare on April 22, 2007, 02:29:25 AM
I hate to admit i but this one  was a tough one to rea... For personal reasons. 

It's odd how something like this comic can linger in the brain making you think about things...

hell I probably shouldn't post right now

I can't sleep and probably not makeing to much sense

I know the feeling.  I didn't start reading until a few months ago, just when Abel was getting home from the funeral.  So reading the entire story up to that point in a single sitting was quite ... distressing.  But in a good way, because now I MUST know how it ends!

Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:43:52 AM
It's not me.  It's the shovel.  It whispers in my ear at night.  Then again, would it be my fault that I still insist on keeping it next to the bed?  *shrug* evil begets evil, I suppose.

... I feel that this particular situation is one where your sig does -not- apply, Azraelle. Of course, I could be wrong, but... :-]

Well, I never said having it whisper to me while asleep was a problem, and therefore, a solution is not necessary.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Zedd on April 22, 2007, 03:26:48 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:43:52 AM
It's not me.  It's the shovel.  It whispers in my ear at night.  Then again, would it be my fault that I still insist on keeping it next to the bed?  *shrug* evil begets evil, I suppose.

... I feel that this particular situation is one where your sig does -not- apply, Azraelle. Of course, I could be wrong, but... :-]

She has a talking shovel...So it might be best not to argue with it or her Master Llearch  :shifty
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Aridas on April 22, 2007, 04:30:24 AM
$50 says he dies.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 22, 2007, 05:47:01 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 03:26:24 AM
Well, I never said having it whisper to me while asleep was a problem, and therefore, a solution is not necessary.

Ah, you misunderstand me. I meant the comic, not the whispering. The whispering is just fine, no problem there at all.

Quote from: Zedd on April 22, 2007, 03:26:48 AM
She has a talking shovel...So it might be best not to argue with it or her Master Llearch  :shifty

Argue? I'm not arguing. I'm seeking elucidation and education. That seems to be the shovel's stock in trade, as it were, so requesting it is merely advancing the day...

... of course, that may -well- mean I'm just asking to get a shovel wrapped around my brain stem, in which case I'm going to regret asking....
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Reaver225 on April 22, 2007, 06:03:17 AM
Well, at least Cid said "Our son" meaning that he still thought of Abel as his.

It's probably going to be overlooked, but if it IS his last few words, it's a lot better than something on the lines of "THAT THING IS AN ABOMINATION!!" *coughs, dies*

Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Tapewolf on April 22, 2007, 06:34:30 AM
I almost missed this update completely.

Quote from: Kattuccino on April 22, 2007, 01:49:43 AM
By the laws of energy, it should take energy to transform AND to transform back.

I have the impression (as Reese says) that the transformation is like bending something flexible out of shape and keeping it there.  When you let go it reverts to equilibrium.  Personally I suspect that a dead (or possibly unconscious) 'Cubi will revert to their base form, although only Amber can really answer that.

Quote from: Azraelle on April 22, 2007, 01:09:30 AM
I predict more of the thought reading that Abel experienced as Devin was dying.  Which of course will send him over the edge.  Again.
Good one.  I'd go with that.

As others have said, this is quite heavy reading.  While I've never seen anyone collapse before my eyes, I have lost a lot of family so I can't honestly say this is one of my favourite strips.

**EDIT**
Damn, if he pegs it we're never going to find out what "May, I'll be right back..." meant when he saw Abel's headwings.  Or what the good news was.

Also, it would be just typical for Kria to pop in and give some kind of "Shame about your Dad, but he was only a Being anyway" speech.

["Shame about yer Dad, on the other hand, it is the way he said he always wanted to go: horribly."  -- Mrs Yellowbeard]
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: King Of Hearts on April 22, 2007, 07:49:22 AM
*gets May's ring and puts it on an open fire*

lesee if we can get some elvish outta this.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Faerie Alex on April 22, 2007, 09:26:07 AM
Good things never seem to happen when a parent insults you then dies. Remember the last time? (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_51.php) Perhaps they're more alike than Devin will ever be alive to see.

Much as I'd like to see Cid not croak, it isn't looking good for him.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Shadowcatcher on April 22, 2007, 09:28:50 AM
I can't help but wonder if Abel has the chance to save his father, but blows it like he blew the chance to save Devin.  He must know some healing magics iin order to even have an opportunity to blow.

No wonder Abel was quoted saying "Fear is the mind killer".
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Regal on April 22, 2007, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: Reaver225 on April 22, 2007, 06:03:17 AM
Well, at least Cid said "Our son" meaning that he still thought of Abel as his.

It's probably going to be overlooked, but if it IS his last few words, it's a lot better than something on the lines of "THAT THING IS AN ABOMINATION!!" *coughs, dies*

Except "Our son" is followed by "is a damn incubus!". And Abel is clearly overhearing it.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Prof B Hunnydew on April 22, 2007, 09:59:32 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 04:30:24 AM
$50 says he dies.

If Cid is a being he will.

IF Cid is the incubus, He maybe having some king of Magic attrack and transforms inot a incubus in front of poor May.  And she has a heart attrack...

ARGGGG, Cliffhanger like these are too open to spectulation...

PBH
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Aurawyn on April 22, 2007, 10:27:08 AM
Didn't see that comming...

Poor Cid  :mowsad
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 22, 2007, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 22, 2007, 06:34:30 AMPersonally I suspect that a dead (or possibly unconscious) 'Cubi will revert to their base form, although only Amber can really answer that.

I'm thinking blackouts, probably passing out, but not necessarily everything that makes you unconscious.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 22, 2007, 06:34:30 AMDamn, if he pegs it we're never going to find out what "May, I'll be right back..." meant when he saw Abel's headwings.  Or what the good news was.

I still think that the good news is that he bumped into Kria, who is waiting outside.  That will probably settle those questions.

Quote from: Shadowcatcher on April 22, 2007, 09:28:50 AMI can't help but wonder if Abel has the chance to save his father, but blows it like he blew the chance to save Devin.

Or Abel saves his dad, and in Abel's eyes redeems himself.
Or Abel saves his dad, and Abel beats himself up for the rest of his life for saving someone he loved, but not the guy who he had traditionally hated.

Or...OH!

Cid probably knows that `cubi can read minds, and so as he's lying there watching Abel's face, he comes to the realization that he can give Abel some final advice that no one else needs to know.

...I seem to have something in my eye again.

Or even start thinking something like, ``Abel!  What the heck did you take all of that magic for?  Come here.  Use spell #224.  Now #253.  Now...''

(of course, I'd expect Abel to fail on the latter)
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on April 22, 2007, 12:33:59 PM
there is no actual indication that it is aheart attack, Cid could be having a panic attack,
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Tapewolf on April 22, 2007, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 22, 2007, 12:33:59 PM
there is no actual indication that it is aheart attack, Cid could be having a panic attack,

Not explicitly, no.  But the suggestions are pretty clear.

1.  The ECG wave above his head in the middle-right frame
(as pointed out by superluser)
2. He's clutching his chest
3. He's saying "My hah-"

While he could possibly be trying to say "my head" or "my headwings", the fact that he's clutching his chest and not his head would tend to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on April 22, 2007, 01:11:36 PM
you're right the background does look like a cardiogram
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Angel on April 22, 2007, 03:15:52 PM
(gulp) Oh dear.... Not only have Abel, Hennya, and the readers figured out that yes, May had an incubus lover, but now Cid might die. A lot of plot for just two strips.

Geez.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: KarlOmega1 on April 22, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
Oh snap...Please don't let Cid die yet...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Reaver225 on April 22, 2007, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Regal on April 22, 2007, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: Reaver225 on April 22, 2007, 06:03:17 AM
Well, at least Cid said "Our son" meaning that he still thought of Abel as his.

It's probably going to be overlooked, but if it IS his last few words, it's a lot better than something on the lines of "THAT THING IS AN ABOMINATION!!" *coughs, dies*

Except "Our son" is followed by "is a damn incubus!". And Abel is clearly overhearing it.

It's still better than "That THING is a damn incubus!".
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Stygian on April 22, 2007, 04:06:48 PM
...

[Looks shocked and stunned. Then, slowly, his face cracks into a most malicious grin]

I. Love! Where. This. Is. Going.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Fex on April 22, 2007, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: Black_angel on April 22, 2007, 03:15:52 PM
(gulp) Oh dear.... Not only have Abel, Hennya, and the readers figured out that yes, May had an incubus lover, but now Cid might die. A lot of plot for just two strips.

Geez.

quick bring 2cc of plot now :3
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Aridas on April 22, 2007, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on April 22, 2007, 09:59:32 AM
If Cid is a being he will.
Uh, no. That's like saying everyone dies of heart attacks. My dad's had AT LEAST 3 in his life and look, he's still there.

Quote from: Tapewolf on April 22, 2007, 01:05:45 PM
1.  The ECG wave above his head in the middle-right frame
Actually, it looks more like a visualisation of pain. Notice the panel before it has the same color theme but there is a straight line. If this was meant to be an ECG in any way, then he would've logically been dead on the previous panel.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Rythak on April 22, 2007, 06:08:50 PM
Damn, first Cid finds that May has been with somone else and now hes havin a heart attck? Thats like... bad day +5!
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Aridas on April 22, 2007, 06:11:46 PM
I just noticed this is the happiest comic. I'm talking about the "83" on it.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 22, 2007, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on April 22, 2007, 09:59:32 AMIf Cid is a being he will.
Uh, no. That's like saying everyone dies of heart attacks. My dad's had AT LEAST 3 in his life and look, he's still there.

I'm sorry to hear that your dad's had heart trouble.  Here, have a  :hug .

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 22, 2007, 01:05:45 PM1.  The ECG wave above his head in the middle-right frame
Actually, it looks more like a visualisation of pain. Notice the panel before it has the same color theme but there is a straight line. If this was meant to be an ECG in any way, then he would've logically been dead on the previous panel.

The EKG (*) wave is very clearly supposed to indicate pain.  The reason why we associate EKG waves with pain is that we associate EKG waves with heart attack or cardiac arrest.  As you correctly point out, it doesn't mean that it is a heart attack, just that we will strongly associate it with that, and that perhaps the artist did as well.

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 06:11:46 PMI just noticed this is the happiest comic. I'm talking about the "83" on it.

Happier than 383 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_383.php)?  Look!  It has a little bow!  Actually (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_083.php), the content (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_183.php) of a (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_283.php) lot of (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_483.php) the _83 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_583.php) strips seems (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_683.php) to be rather unhappy.

Prediction: 783 will be unhappy.  Unless Amber sees this and decides to change it to spite me (an idea I'd endorse).  Probably with a question from the readers if 783 was supposed to be a downer.

Also, I think it would be bad taste to have Cid die in comic 86.


(*)I've had a few, and that's what they call them in the States (from the German Elektrokardiogramm)--just so you don't think I can't spell.  And don't get me started on spelling it Light Amplification by Ztimulated Emission of Radiation.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Aridas on April 22, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
Well, I was sort of referring to the fact it looked more like just plain jaggies. You know, the kind of jaggies you see when your girlfriend sees you out with a girlfriend in the movie theater jaggies. The ones that mean trouble.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 22, 2007, 07:31:32 PM
Just noticed something.  Cid is trying to figure out *why* it happened, not *what* happened.  Unless he was too ill to say the right word.

Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 06:57:56 PMWell, I was sort of referring to the fact it looked more like just plain jaggies.

Note that the lines are flat to the right (and probably to the left.)
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Reese Tora on April 22, 2007, 08:45:17 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on April 22, 2007, 09:59:32 AM
If Cid is a being he will.
Uh, no. That's like saying everyone dies of heart attacks. My dad's had AT LEAST 3 in his life and look, he's still there.

How many of those three times did modern medicine intervene quickly and efficiently to sustain his life?  Without competent medical care (read: proper equipemnt or medicine, or those trained in medical techniques) the chances of surviving a heart attack IRL are much much lower, though it's still possible.

I imagine that, if they can bring someone who can heal Cid fast enough, he'll be OK, but if they take too long (and we still don't have any real indication as to what sort of emergency response they have in furrae at that time period)
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Alondro on April 22, 2007, 09:10:09 PM
*Charline blinks and hmms*  Well... at least someone's dying now.  Still, I wanted Abel to do the deed.   Sons killing their fathers to ascend to new levels of ebil, or just as they discover their new horrible power which they can't really control is always so satisfying to watch.  >:}
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Aridas on April 22, 2007, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 07:31:32 PM
Note that the lines are flat to the right (and probably to the left.)
And the jaggies are only over him. not to the sides, where he isn't. Plus, it won't explain the jaggies in the first panel, which also show something unpleasant.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Nino on April 22, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: superluser on April 22, 2007, 07:31:32 PM
Note that the lines are flat to the right (and probably to the left.)
And the jaggies are only over him. not to the sides, where he isn't. Plus, it won't explain the jaggies in the first panel, which also show something unpleasant.

The jaggies in the first panel split at angles, whereas the jaggies in the fifth don't. However, it doesn't look like a heartbeat to me (p-wave, RTS interval, etc). Though of course Cid wouldn't have a regular one if it was a heart attack.

So my vote goes to it being purposefully a heartbeat, though I wouldn't be surprised if Amber did plan it on being only a panic attack or heartburn.

And yes, Cid did say "why." Him and I both would like to know at this point the "why."
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 22, 2007, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Reese Tora on April 22, 2007, 08:45:17 PMHow many of those three times did modern medicine intervene quickly and efficiently to sustain his life?  Without competent medical care (read: proper equipemnt or medicine, or those trained in medical techniques) the chances of surviving a heart attack IRL are much much lower, though it's still possible.

I had a friend whose dad (or was it grandfather) had a heart attack.  When they finally convinced him to go to the hospital, he drove himself.  I think he may still be alive.  Some people are much more resilient than others.  Plus, Zinvth probably had good magical healers.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Madmann135 on April 22, 2007, 10:43:28 PM
I don't know if it's been said before but what if Cid is a cubi with a split personality?  The non-cubi side of his is stronger and more dominate than the cubi side.

That could explain why May says she didn't cheat and why Abel is a cubi and why Abel hates those that change their identity. :mowcookie
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 22, 2007, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: Madmann135 on April 22, 2007, 10:43:28 PMand why Abel hates those that change their identity. :mowcookie

No, ``Abel has a severe dislike of Cubi who use their abilities to assume complete alternate identies (sic).''

It's hard to see that springing from a dad with a split personality.

Unless, as I suggested before, Cid was Kria's teacher, and he changes form to teach.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: BarGamer on April 23, 2007, 12:35:06 AM
My theory is that Cid DOES die on the operating table/in the process of Abel trying to save him. Abel is watching somehow, and after seeing all that blood on himself/doctor/May, his phobia goes nuts, and he somehow ends up in SAIA.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Sienna Maiu - M T on April 23, 2007, 01:36:44 AM
Dang man, no wonder Abel has issues.
And this is all in one day too!!! O.O *spazzes just a little*
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Ouai on April 23, 2007, 02:59:06 AM
I know this has been said a thousand times but l'll say it anyway...


                  DAMN, that sucks   :<
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Rythak on April 23, 2007, 04:58:40 AM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on April 22, 2007, 06:11:46 PM
I just noticed this is the happiest comic. I'm talking about the "83" on it.
The first thing i thought of when i noticed this was "oh man i bet 42 is really happy" im gonna nail somethin slick here... then i looked. have you seen Abel's Story 42? maybe you should...
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_44.php
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Rafe on April 23, 2007, 05:38:34 PM
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Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on April 23, 2007, 05:47:46 PM
now I want to know what Rafe said!
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 23, 2007, 06:53:59 PM
.. you're not the only one. Pity it's his right to not say anything. Oh, well...
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: bill on April 23, 2007, 10:28:42 PM
We'll never know. This seriously will bother me until I die. What if he said something important, like, "Don't take the highway on the 26th," or "Don't cook next Friday,"?
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: superluser on April 23, 2007, 10:34:28 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 23, 2007, 06:53:59 PM.. you're not the only one. Pity it's his right to not say anything. Oh, well...

You don't keep prior modifications of the messages here on the forum?  I would think that that would be a pretty standard way of dealing with disputes, such as when someone goes way over the line and gets reported for it, but then that person changes the message before the mods can get there.

Anyways, I'm just glad that you can't see the abusive, obscenity-laden version that I just modified this to replace.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Rafe on April 23, 2007, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: GabrielsThoughts on April 23, 2007, 05:47:46 PM
now I want to know what Rafe said!

Nothing that wasn't said already, which is why I removed it.  Didn't see a delete button.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 23, 2007, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: Rafe on April 23, 2007, 10:38:26 PM
Nothing that wasn't said already, which is why I removed it.  Didn't see a delete button.

There isn't one. Well.. unless you're a mod. Mods can do -anything-. :-]

*cough* something about a philosophical aversion to deleting posts on the part of the owners, or something. I don't pretend to understand, I just follow the rules. ;-]
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on April 23, 2007, 10:57:32 PM
I was never a mod, but I remember correctly there used to be a delete button... is there any way you can set up the delete button to appear within 5 minutes of a post?
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Rafe on April 23, 2007, 11:11:18 PM
Some boards have delete available up until another poster responds.

I'm a mod on David Hopkins' Jack forum, and an administrator, and it's always a pisser when you're on other forums and you realize you don't have your super-powers.   (It's really tempting to want to edit other people's posts and make them say what you want.)  My only consolation is that at least whenever Amber talks to me I share my evil plans.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Fuyudenki on April 23, 2007, 11:21:39 PM
I like the Delete button on posts.  It's almost as good as the Back button on my browser when I go to make a post.

Similarly, I like the edit button, and do not think that previous versions should be recorded.  Often if I've edited my post, you didn't want to see it before the change, anyway.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Rythak on April 24, 2007, 01:14:16 AM
I don't know if i got mental problems or what, but every I have a very hard time making things I try to say come out right. I also have a hard time with my own spelling/grammar... but when I read someone else's writing or posts I could tell whats wrong with every last little detail. It's hard to explain. I edit alot. Almost 8/10 posts of mine will be edited. But uasally its just sentence structure and stuff...

WoW forums have a delete button which at times does come in handy.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Fuyudenki on April 24, 2007, 01:27:00 AM
perfectly natural, that's why essay writers and authors usually get other people to proofread their work for them.  After writing the thing and reading over it a dozen times, you're just not going to notice that you misspelled "and" 23 times, and forgot 16 each "a" and "the" articles.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: Damaris on April 24, 2007, 10:18:22 PM
I nixed the delete button as I have seen people abuse it terribly, and have a hearty dislike for the button itself.  I feel it gives people the permission to be immature, type without thinking, and have a general disregard for concequences.  That's why we don't have it.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: kaskar on April 25, 2007, 03:42:00 AM
Quote from: Rythak on April 24, 2007, 01:14:16 AM
I don't know if i got mental problems or what, but every I have a very hard time making things I try to say come out right. I also have a hard time with my own spelling/grammar... but when I read someone else's writing or posts I could tell whats wrong with every last little detail. It's hard to explain. I edit alot. Almost 8/10 posts of mine will be edited. But uasally its just sentence structure and stuff...
WoW forums have a delete button which at times does come in handy.
However, everyone tries to get by, and everyone seems to be blind to their own faults (especially the exception of i before e, etc, and their etc ....  )   However, I thought this page was to discuss what is to come to everyone in Abel's house, while Cid looks as if he is going to have his last gasp . This probably won't happen now that  secrets are out from the past, and everyone now knows . Will this just be a short term attack, or will Cid be left lingering to recover?      Or will Cid die straight off and cleanly, and have the rest of the group there to clean up the mess ? ( So much for Hennya's happy wedding . ) We will probably find out in Abel's Story {84} , unless Amber plans another cliffhanger ... 
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: techmaster-glitch on April 25, 2007, 10:20:17 PM
I have a strong hope that Abel will try to use whatever magic he has to save Cid, and as someone suggested, will either result in
a) Abel redeems himself in his eyes for his failiure to save Devin or,
b) Beats himself up for the rest of his life for saving someone he loved, but not someone he traditionally hated.

Though it is more likely that the doctor/priest/shaman will arrive in time to save Cid.
And I will be VERY upset if Cid dies, he is a tough adventurer, he should be able to pull through this.
Title: Re: 04/22/07 Abel's Story [83] What to say
Post by: ShiningShadow on April 27, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
It will wind up Cid dying and Abel will try his first magic heal and Cid pain in the chest is gone.

Or Cid will die and Abel will have a very sucky life  >:3.