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Title: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Damaris on January 27, 2008, 11:39:33 PM
That crazy Biggs.  Always thinking ahead.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Naldru on January 27, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
Yes, but with a mind so twisted it makes a corkscrew look straight.  However, I think that Dan getting killed would get Destania mad at both Biggs and Dark Pegasus.  Of course, Biggs might feel that dealing with Dark Pegasus is safer than dealing with the people sniffing around Lost Lake in an attempt to find Destania (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_729.php).
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Jakon on January 27, 2008, 11:59:22 PM
And here I was thinking Dan was going to be working for DP. Hurrrr, I'm smart.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Toric on January 28, 2008, 12:30:52 AM
I really have to wonder how DP's latest plot in the kingdom of H'Ann interfered with one of Biggs' schemes. Maybe Biggs wanted to hire the guard dragon as a bouncer for a high-profile party he was hosting that weekend.


Let the speculation begin!!!!
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: techmaster-glitch on January 28, 2008, 12:32:43 AM
So, Biggs apparently doesn't know that Dan is the one who's taken down DP all three times before...
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Kayriel on January 28, 2008, 12:45:39 AM
Quote from: Naldru on January 27, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
Yes, but with a mind so twisted it makes a corkscrew look straight.  However, I think that Dan getting killed would get Destania mad at both Biggs and Dark Pegasus.  Of course, Biggs might feel that dealing with Dark Pegasus is safer than dealing with the people sniffing around Lost Lake in an attempt to find Destania (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_729.php).

When she says Kill-Zone, I believe she's referring to the fact that Destania's clan are dragon-slayers, and that Pyroduck is obviously a dragon.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Fresnor on January 28, 2008, 01:47:55 AM
Hmm, seems Biggs doesn't know of the 'Mommy Complex'...  Any harms comes to thier babies, and thier liable to level anyone/thing that has anything to do with it, sometimes not even caring which side they were on...
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: LionHeart on January 28, 2008, 02:08:39 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on January 28, 2008, 12:32:43 AM
So, Biggs apparently doesn't know that Dan is the one who's taken down DP all three times before...

Even if he did know, he would probably consider that that would give Dan an advantage over his own hirelings.

(Was it three times?)
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Zedd on January 28, 2008, 02:37:31 AM
Im sure Dan will make out this in time....*long pause* :shifty

Put all my money on DP to loose!!
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: e_voyager on January 28, 2008, 03:44:56 AM
Remember Zedd you don't have to survive to win the battle. you just have to stop the other guy from succeeding.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Anri on January 28, 2008, 03:45:28 AM
Now, Panel 3.. I've seen ferrets make that face. That is a pure evil ferret look.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: e_voyager on January 28, 2008, 04:10:14 AM
but what kine of evil? there are several kinds i believe
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Fex on January 28, 2008, 04:20:10 AM
if Amber had drawn two fangs in Bigs mouth in the last panel he would look uber wevil  :3

Bigs is smarter than he looks when I saw him for the first time in the comic I thought he was kinda brainless ....  :giggle
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Reaver225 on January 28, 2008, 06:11:55 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on January 28, 2008, 12:32:43 AM
So, Biggs apparently doesn't know that Dan is the one who's taken down DP all three times before...
You never know, DP might have been revived a dozen times and killed a few extra when no-one was looking...
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2008, 06:59:40 AM
Quote from: Reaver225 on January 28, 2008, 06:11:55 AM
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on January 28, 2008, 12:32:43 AM
So, Biggs apparently doesn't know that Dan is the one who's taken down DP all three times before...
You never know, DP might have been revived a dozen times and killed a few extra when no-one was looking...

Well, -someone- would have had to be looking. DP himself, at the very least, and whoever killed him. However, we think we know it wasn't Dan...

Who knows. Maybe Amber is playing with our heads again. ;-]
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Tapewolf on January 28, 2008, 07:13:03 AM
C'mon Fi, what are you doing?  Even Dan can see this is stupidly dangerous...
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Stig Hemmer on January 28, 2008, 07:31:51 AM
He is an adventurer!  Stupidly Dangerous is his middle name!  Er, names.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Sid on January 28, 2008, 07:55:43 AM
Knowing Dan's odd impulses, he might die just to get back at Biggs (assuming Destania will react in the "You sent him there, so now you die, too!" way some predicted). ;)

Also, Biggs doesn't really factor in Wildy. Even though he might gamble on her never finding out that it was Biggs who sent Dan into his doom...
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2008, 08:45:51 AM
The problem with that is that it has been noted that Dan has managed to kill Dead Pegasus at least twice now, and while he died the last time around, almost, he -was- doing a certain amount of grandstanding etc. I think, if he were by himself, he'd go through DP like a hot knife through butter, honestly. He just felt he couldn't make his friends feel totally worthless...


Although I -do- look forward to a re-iteration of the light switch. ;-]
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Alondro on January 28, 2008, 10:27:44 AM
I think it's rather interesting that DP doesn't seem to be very powerful, considering Dan 'killed' him with a simple sword and couldn't manage to even scratch a cubi. 

And yet, DP manages to keep coming back to life... something one would expect only phoenixes to manage.  Clearly, he has some unusual ability.

And then there's the fact that what he does interferes with Biggs' plans... which we know involve destroying the dragon race.

Hmmm... very interesting possibilities this raises.   >:3
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Aleolus on January 28, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
Uummmm, yay for the no-lose scenario?

Oh, I am so sure that Dan is just going to love that response to his honest question.
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: e_voyager on January 28, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
Let's look at this form the mind of E.: check your sanity at the door please

Yes Dan's sword is probably enchanted to cut through stone hard flesh.

no he never used it on Able or any other cubi that we've seen. after all against able he's used  a punch and failed. a melon and succeed. and strange honesty emotions that seemed the throw him off guard.

yes Dan has won agent DP more then once they last time seeming to cost him his life.

yes Dan is Dan enough to go after DP again in the usual 4 to six party fashion.

yes Biggs set this up and Dan's mother may not know about it yet which is a file of worms to be opened another day...

have i missed anything? 
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Kayriel on January 28, 2008, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: Stig Hemmer on January 28, 2008, 07:31:51 AM
He is an adventurer!  Stupidly Dangerous is his middle name!  Er, names.

Stupidly Dangerous
Stupidly||Dan||gerous

Apparently Dan is right smack in the middle of stupidly dangerous. =D
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Tapewolf on January 28, 2008, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Alondro on January 28, 2008, 10:27:44 AM
I think it's rather interesting that DP doesn't seem to be very powerful, considering Dan 'killed' him with a simple sword and couldn't manage to even scratch a cubi.

I'm worried because he didn't even manage to smack down a ferret.  Of course, as people said, it's likely he didn't want to annoy Wildy or Dee by killing him.

QuoteAnd yet, DP manages to keep coming back to life... something one would expect only phoenixes to manage.  Clearly, he has some unusual ability.

Well, next time he should kill him, cut off his head and hammer a stake through his heart.  That ought to slow him down a little.

In any case, it's not necessarily DP self-resurrecting.  More likely his minions doing some weird ritual (Dan assumed the Shaman had done this to him initially).


And Abel is seriously going to have kittens when he finds out about this.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2008, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on January 28, 2008, 01:30:59 PM
Stupidly Dangerous
Stupidly||Dan||gerous

Apparently Dan is right smack in the middle of stupidly dangerous. =D

No, "y da" is right smack in the middle of "stupidly dangerous"...
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: e_voyager on January 28, 2008, 01:39:46 PM
split the hair split the atom same difference. either way expect fallout
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: AnizInDisguise on January 28, 2008, 03:12:19 PM
Biggs looks sexily evil in that last panel
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Zedd on January 28, 2008, 04:01:39 PM
Everyone seems to love Win-Win moments...Specialy the little perv-o-machino
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: E-Jade on January 28, 2008, 04:07:26 PM
Well he does have a point in that.  Either way you look at it he wins.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Fuyudenki on January 28, 2008, 06:51:00 PM
...Dark Pegasus knows that Dan is Dee's child.

Dark Pegasus apparently knows a lot about Dee.

Why does he even bother coming back to life?  He's going to get Dan sent after him, and if he manages to actually kill Dan, he's going to have the former head of SAIA's pain and torture department wanting to give him some... pain and torture.

For Biggs, we call this win/win.  For DP, we call this lose/epic lose.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Tapewolf on January 28, 2008, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: Volfram on January 28, 2008, 06:51:00 PM
...Dark Pegasus knows that Dan is Dee's child.

Oh my gods... I even voiced DP for that strip!  How the heck could I have forgotten that?

QuoteWhy does he even bother coming back to life?  He's going to get Dan sent after him, and if he manages to actually kill Dan, he's going to have the former head of SAIA's pain and torture department wanting to give him some... pain and torture.
I don't know if she'd do that.  If I were a 'Cubi who was several times older than Christ and DP killed my son, I'd cut straight to the part where I ensure he never gets resurrected again  :B

QuoteFor Biggs, we call this win/win.  For DP, we call this lose/epic lose.
I'm not sure we call this win/win for Biggs.  Regardless of the outcome for Dan, I think Biggs will be in for a substantial portion of lose when she finds out that he sent her only son off to kill a demon.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2008, 07:32:45 PM
....

Unless Destania believes Dan can take Dead Pegasus, no worries, and set up with Biggs to get Biggs to send Dan out after DP...


Nah. That's -too- Machiavellian.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Fuyudenki on January 28, 2008, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 28, 2008, 07:30:42 PM

Oh my gods... I even voiced DP for that strip!  How the heck could I have forgotten that?

I'm not surprised.  I forgot it, too, until halfway through my thinking out the cause/effect ramifications for that post.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: WhiteFox on January 28, 2008, 09:24:33 PM
Wizards coin toss: heads I win, tails you lose.

I think Dan killing DP coincides with both Biggs and Destanias goals, she just doesn't want Dan to see her right now. Cause then she'd have to go through several strips of exposition that amber doesn't want us to know yet.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Angel on January 28, 2008, 09:43:02 PM
That evil little smirk on Biggs's face made my day. I guess evil really DOES run in the family. Why would DP bother with Biggs though? Or did he not mean on purpose, just that by circumstance their plans get tangled?

And dammit! Now I wanna know more about Mr. and Mrs.-San!

Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Eibborn on January 28, 2008, 11:15:38 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say that the wine Biggs is selecting is for him to share with Destania, just as soon as Dan gets on the road and out of his hair.  >:3
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Seth on January 29, 2008, 08:58:35 AM
Question: If Dan does die, what's Fa'Lina going to do?  :U
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: AndersW on January 29, 2008, 10:45:01 AM
Fi is currently getting drunk at the mini-bar, so Dan will likely leave him there.  When Fi sobers up he will ask where Dan went, and be told that he went to kill a 700 year old Demon.  Fi will go tell Abel that Dan is doing something "very stupid and dangerous."  The thing is that Fi at this point has lost track of where Dan is, and therefore Abel will not know where Dan is.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: e_voyager on January 29, 2008, 02:03:45 PM
there are more ways to fail Horatio then are written in your high score table.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Amber Williams on January 29, 2008, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 29, 2008, 02:03:45 PM
there are more ways to fail Horatio then are written in your high score table.

...what the hell did you just type. 
Title: Re: 1/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: PurpleCheeseLlama on January 29, 2008, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on January 28, 2008, 01:34:07 PM
And Abel is seriously going to have kittens when he finds out about this.

Now I want a little cheetah-Cubi kitten D-:
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: pyrohamster on January 29, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 28, 2008, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: Kayriel on January 28, 2008, 01:30:59 PM
Stupidly Dangerous
Stupidly||Dan||gerous

Apparently Dan is right smack in the middle of stupidly dangerous. =D

No, "y da" is right smack in the middle of "stupidly dangerous"...
lol :)
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: CameronCN on January 29, 2008, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 29, 2008, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 29, 2008, 02:03:45 PM
there are more ways to fail Horatio then are written in your high score table.

...what the hell did you just type. 

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--Hamlet
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Naldru on January 29, 2008, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: CameronCN on January 29, 2008, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on January 29, 2008, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on January 29, 2008, 02:03:45 PM
there are more ways to fail Horatio then are written in your high score table.

...what the hell did you just type. 

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--Hamlet
Of course, I still don't have any idea what e_voyager was trying to say.  Perhaps he's saying that there are alot of ways that the characters can mess things up.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: Kayriel on January 29, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
Sad thing is. Knew what he was getting at, knew the original quote, still have no idea what he's trying to do.

Also, Abel kittens? Hell yes, Kayriel wants Abel kittens. =3
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 29, 2008, 08:03:35 PM
Quote from: CameronCN on January 29, 2008, 06:59:35 PM
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--Hamlet

Oh, we recognised the quote. It was what spanky was trying to do with it that wasn't clear...
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: e_voyager on January 29, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on January 29, 2008, 08:03:35 PM
Quote from: CameronCN on January 29, 2008, 06:59:35 PM
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
--Hamlet

Oh, we recognised the quote. It was what spanky was trying to do with it that wasn't clear...

sorry i kind of when to sleep right after post that but i'll try to clear it up. if i can remember my state of mind properly i was saying that to Biggs this is all a game and as much as it may seem win win he could still lose Bigg. like a good drama  all things could tumble down around his ears even if Dan does succeed Dp could tell him all he needed to know to truly kibosh Bigg's plan and stet his sister free on him for her revenge just when he thinks thing are as bad as they can get. on top of that he'll still have to deal with Dee when she comes back. but then i was still pretty much half sleep when i posted that. i'm most creative and least senseable a few hours after i get off of work and i'm normally up for more hours that is wise.
Title: Re: 01/28/08 [DMFA # 871] - It's all about the win-win
Post by: AnizInDisguise on January 29, 2008, 09:12:40 PM
Ah, it all makes pseudo-sense now!  :3