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Title: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Darkmoon on November 21, 2008, 12:54:42 AM
Might just be able to get Abel moving, no?
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Jairus on November 21, 2008, 01:04:33 AM
Maybe...

That's a good mentality of "Devin's," though. His past sucks, but he's still alive... so now what?
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Darkmoon on November 21, 2008, 01:05:17 AM
Punch and pie?
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Jairus on November 21, 2008, 01:08:32 AM
Quote from: Darkmoon on November 21, 2008, 01:05:17 AM
Punch and pie?
I was thinking cute 'roo-rats, but that sounds good too. What kind of pie is it?

Oh, and Dewey Decimal Death Attach sounds like an awesome Limit Break.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Azraelle on November 21, 2008, 01:19:49 AM
Quote from: Jairus on November 21, 2008, 01:08:32 AM
Oh, and Dewey Decimal Death Attach sounds like an awesome Limit Break.

It's OVER 900!!!!!
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Dagardo on November 21, 2008, 01:46:55 AM
Devin may be just as big a (expletive) as ever but it also seems to be his way of being insightfully helpful. And I agree with him, life does indeed suck, (to the greatest degree and then some from where I sit) but he can still do something to make it better, not his past sure, but his future. And he has at least a total of three-thousand years to do it in, which is a long damn time. Makes me want some of the things I desire even more when i think about it.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Howl on November 21, 2008, 02:02:55 AM
I'm kinda sick of this part between Abel and Devin now. It's boring.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Nino on November 21, 2008, 02:14:02 AM
Quote from: Minishear on November 21, 2008, 02:02:55 AM
I'm kinda sick of this part between Abel and Devin now. It's boring.

It's the necessary Abel character development scene. He has to turn into a jerk at some point D=
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: e_voyager on November 21, 2008, 02:25:54 AM
the ghost of a loved one or at least a longtime close  acquaintance is a time honored method of a character coming to grips with a crises or a truing point in their lives. especially were life and death are concerned. he may not have liked Devin but Devin was close to him. a bully form childhood and a constant reminder of something that he didn't want to be yet ironically would become to a degree.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: superluser on November 21, 2008, 03:38:27 AM
I suppose that's true.  If you get out of a life and death situation alive, what you did was, by its very nature, the right thing to do.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Feather Dancer on November 21, 2008, 05:13:18 AM
Devin rather insightful for a dead guy but it's what Abel needs to hear, more so from somebody he knows than a stranger he'd feel he could doubt. Sides, he gets more screen time to be an ass before he goes probably for good so bonus!
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Naldru on November 21, 2008, 05:28:00 AM
Quote from: Azraelle on November 21, 2008, 01:19:49 AM
Quote from: Jairus on November 21, 2008, 01:08:32 AM
Oh, and Dewey Decimal Death Attack sounds like an awesome Limit Break.

It's OVER 900!!!!!
Well, military history would be over 900, but I've always found science and technology to be the places to look which would be in the 500 and 600 classes.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Joe3210 on November 21, 2008, 05:46:50 AM
Quote from: Naldru on November 21, 2008, 05:28:00 AM
Well, military history would be over 900, but I've always found science and technology to be the places to look which would be in the 500 and 600 classes.
*facepalm*
I think he isn't talking about that.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Turnsky on November 21, 2008, 06:04:16 AM
it might be devin's ghost, or some part of devin left with Abel. Don't forget that we're fairly unclear as to what his creature capabilities were.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 06:08:15 AM
It's rather interesting that Devin knows he's a librarian, since he probably didn't know that while he was alive.

Quote from: Minishear on November 21, 2008, 02:02:55 AM
I'm kinda sick of this part between Abel and Devin now. It's boring.
Basically, when doing a weekly strip like this you have to strike a balance between immediate gratification of readers and the longer term, since going through the archive, or having the strip in print form looks a bit strange when you have some kind of dramatic hook on every single page.

As I understand it, Amber's decision has been to make the story as a whole more readable in the archives.  The price we pay is that some strips will have less going on.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Noone on November 21, 2008, 07:26:26 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 06:08:15 AM
It's rather interesting that Devin knows he's a librarian, since he probably didn't know that while he was alive.
Well, this point reinforces the theory that Devin is either Fa'lina or Ink in disguise, since it's likely that they both would have known(via thought reading).
Abel got his library job after he moved to Zinvith, as I recall. It might be interesting to see how this leads to him getting banned from the SAIA library...
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Damaris on November 21, 2008, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Naldru on November 21, 2008, 05:28:00 AM
Well, military history would be over 900, but I've always found science and technology to be the places to look which would be in the 500 and 600 classes.

Strictly speaking, wars are found in the 900s, and the history of America's military is found in the 600s
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 07:28:49 AM
Quote from: The1Kobra on November 21, 2008, 07:26:26 AM
Well, this point reinforces the theory that Devin is either Fa'lina or Ink in disguise, since it's likely that they both would have known(via thought reading).
Indeed.  On the other hand, being dead might allow Devin to know things which he did not know in life.

QuoteAbel got his library job after he moved to Zinvith, as I recall.  It might be interesting to see how this leads to him getting banned from the SAIA library...
We don't get to find out what the library incident itself was, mind.
Title: Wut?
Post by: Alterationartist on November 21, 2008, 07:55:34 AM
So Devin, the  Jerk With A Heart of Gold (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkWithAHeartOfGold), thinks he has bettar magicks than the Glass Cannon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GlassCannon), Abel.

I honestly think that if Dan, if not weighed down by his mother's wishes, could tear Abel up in physical combat. The reverse is also true.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Ghostwish on November 21, 2008, 09:20:52 AM
Yall need to stop watching so much TV, Alt.

You know, I'm starting to believe this could very well be Fa'lina, shifted. A tad too knowing and insightful to be Devin, but that kind of wisdom seems to be part of Fa'lina's character. And hey, cubi can read minds. Fa'lina is one hell of a cubi, so I think her reading abilities could be capable of pulling such things from Abel's mind.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Rakala on November 21, 2008, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on November 21, 2008, 09:20:52 AM
And hey, cubi can read minds. Fa'lina is one hell of a cubi, so I think her reading abilities could be capable of pulling such things from Abel's mind.

It's been said many times that they can only read surface thoughts. Prying into the mind and looking at your inner most secrets causes pain. Look for the "Cubi Mind Abilities" section in the Demonology 101.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: superluser on November 21, 2008, 10:07:13 AM
Quote from: Rakala on November 21, 2008, 10:04:37 AMIt's been said many times that they can only read surface thoughts. Prying into the mind and looking at your inner most secrets causes pain. Look for the "Cubi Mind Abilities" section in the Demonology 101.

While true, this could have easily been gleaned from simple thought reading over a span of a few hours or even more simply, an intake interview.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 10:09:02 AM
Quote from: superluser on November 21, 2008, 10:07:13 AM
While true, this could have easily been gleaned from simple thought reading over a span of a few hours or even more simply, an intake interview.
Also, Abel seems to have been reliving the events of that day multiple times while Fa'Lina was wondering what to do with him.  In any case, Fa'Lina is an exceptionally powerful succubus.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Mao on November 21, 2008, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: Darkmoon on November 21, 2008, 01:05:17 AM
Punch and pie?

I'm sorry, but I came to this thread under the impression that there would be punch and pie.

I'm not sure that I believe just yet that this is some sort of 'cubi mind trick'. *waves hand* My gut is telling me that it's either a ghost or is something that Abels own mind has conjured up as a coping mechanism.

That said.. that could just be indigestion.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: superluser on November 21, 2008, 10:14:58 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on November 21, 2008, 10:09:02 AMAlso, Abel seems to have been reliving the events of that day multiple times while Fa'Lina was wondering what to do with him.

What I meant.

Either Abel was obsessing about the events of the day while Fa'Lina was reading his thoughts, or Fa'Lina was asking him about the events of that day...while reading his thoughts.

Quote from: Mowser on November 21, 2008, 10:12:05 AMI'm sorry, but I came to this thread under the impression that there would be punch and pie.

How about a nice Hawaiian Punch?
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Alondro on November 21, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
*Charles hmms*  Is this the part where Devin shows Abel what the world would be like if he'd never been born?

We can even use the famous line:  Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wings.

*Charline pipes in*  And every time a Being screams, a cubi gets its head-wings!   >:3

*Charles does not want that*  Noes.   :<
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Rakala on November 21, 2008, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: Mowser on November 21, 2008, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: Darkmoon on November 21, 2008, 01:05:17 AM
Punch and pie?

I'm sorry, but I came to this thread under the impression that there would be punch and pie.

I'm not sure that I believe just yet that this is some sort of 'cubi mind trick'. *waves hand* My gut is telling me that it's either a ghost or is something that Abels own mind has conjured up as a coping mechanism.

That said.. that could just be indigestion.


"There's more gravy than the grave about you."
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: AmigaDragon on November 21, 2008, 01:00:03 PM
Quote from: Joe3210 on November 21, 2008, 05:46:50 AM
Quote from: Naldru on November 21, 2008, 05:28:00 AM
Well, military history would be over 900, but I've always found science and technology to be the places to look which would be in the 500 and 600 classes.
*facepalm*
I think he isn't talking about that.
Whatever he's talking about, I don't know either.

Quote from: Kattuccino on November 21, 2008, 02:14:02 AM
Quote from: Minishear on November 21, 2008, 02:02:55 AM
I'm kinda sick of this part between Abel and Devin now. It's boring.

It's the necessary Abel character development scene. He has to turn into a jerk at some point D=
I just can't think of anything more to say on this part of the story that hasn't been said already by me or the rest of you... at least not until something else exciting or informative happens.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: LionHeart on November 21, 2008, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: superluser on November 21, 2008, 10:14:58 AM
Quote from: Mowser on November 21, 2008, 10:12:05 AMI'm sorry, but I came to this thread under the impression that there would be punch and pie.

How about a nice Hawaiian Punch?
Sounds like a real hit.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Naldru on November 21, 2008, 01:16:16 PM
Yes, I have seen Dragonball Z and the scenes where they kept reading out the readings on the scouter glasses.  And if you don't know that 500, 600, and 900 are the science, technology, and history sections of the Dewey Decimal System, you aren't spending enough time in the library.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on November 21, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
Survivor's guilt is rarely rational. Besides, even if Abel couldn't fight off the demons (probably true, although he did take that magic class with Kria in Zinvth, I don't know how good he was, and besides, a hemophobic probably wouldn't be delving into the sorts of magic that are combat applicable) he probably blames himself more for freeing than for not being able to save Devin. True, there probably wasn't much he could have done, but what he *did* do was get in the way. At the very least he probably blames himself for forcing Devin to stop and stare at him.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: AmigaDragon on November 21, 2008, 02:31:49 PM
It's been 25+ years since I've paid any attention to the term Dewey Decimal, and about as long since paying attention to what categories were in what number ranges. Instead, I'd just look up what I want in the card catalog and go to wherever it said the book was. Rather than knowing "science is in the 500s which is over there", I know "science is over there", or more likely, "scifi/fantasy is in that other area". The numbers just help me find it once I'm in the right area (this shelf or that shelf of scif/fantasy).
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 21, 2008, 03:23:11 PM
Yeah, Amiga, but Damaris is a librarian. ;-]
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: superluser on November 21, 2008, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on November 21, 2008, 03:23:11 PMYeah, Amiga, but Damaris is a librarian. ;-]

To be fair, it's been a long time since I've been in a library which used the Dewey Decimal System.  Most seem to use the LCC system these days.  Public libraries still use Dewey, I suppose, but I typically only go to them for the microforms.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: RobbieThe1st on November 21, 2008, 11:02:13 PM
@ Dewey Decimal discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtsHzrpMkhI
Sorry, I just had to.

Devin wise, I figure it could definitely be Fa'Lina, watching his thoughts passively, or perhaps she used some power to actively "nudge" his thoughts in the direction she wanted - It wouldn't have been hard.

It could also be something in Abel's mind, although I don't think it is a Ghost - I have never heard anything about ghosts in Furrae, so unless I see evidence to the contrary, I am going to figure they don't exist.


-RobbieThe1st
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Anri on November 22, 2008, 04:45:43 PM
Mwahahaha. I was thinking about Conan the Librarian while reading this thread. Thanks for saving me the trouble of youtubing it myself. ;3
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Damaris on November 22, 2008, 10:20:57 PM
Because I'm a nerd, and its bugged me for days, I went and looked it up.  355 is military science.  623 is military and nautical engineering.  The 900s only hold major wars because they occurred in Europe and Asia, and that area is dedicated to world history.  There is no 900s entry for military history.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Naldru on November 23, 2008, 12:06:53 AM
300 is the social sciences and military science is considered a social science rather than a physical science.  I had forgotten about that.  (It's actually 355 to 359. 355 is military science in general, while 356 to 359 are more detailed areas.)  I shall attempt to better research my jokes in the future.
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Syxal on December 08, 2008, 07:52:50 PM
Destina. "Devin" is Destina. Look in the top right corner of the last frame, see the little part of a feather? Headwings! That's how "Devin" knew Abel worked at the library! and note that she's solid in this comic.  :boogie
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: AmigaDragon on December 08, 2008, 11:39:31 PM
What feather (in #37)? Devin has tufted ears. But you're right, #39 shows (prior to your post about #37) that it is Destania, having revealed her true appearance (deeper-blue fur, headwings, ..."other features").
Title: Re: 11/21/08 [Abel 2 #37] - What Now?
Post by: Damaris on December 10, 2008, 07:27:41 PM
ooooh, I totally didn't catch that.

oops