Abel is avoiding the question I see.
So will we get a flashback for this to give Dan a better understanding of Dee? Or will this be a defining moment for Abel and Dan's budding faux teacher-student relationship?
Abel and Destania totally boned.
That's my theory. And it's the right one. Or so I hear.
Dan... I AM your father! or at least the father of one of your half brothers or sisters...
Abel looks adorable covered in watermelon in the first panel.
I think it was Tape who called it: The reason why Dan asked the question was because he actually did think that Abel knew her. And I just remembered this, (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_734.php), which is pretty much proof that dan figured it out ahead of time.
"ugh, you fight like my mom..."
Quote from: AndersW on August 24, 2007, 12:42:20 AM
Abel looks adorable covered in watermelon in the first panel.
I thought he was blushing muchly with that much pink on him, then I remembered the watermelon.
- I'm still in the totally boned camp. Though I'm still not convinced that it was anything more than homework.
- Abel's expression in panel 1 looks almost like it came out of Jigsaw Forte (especially with the two colors with the same saturation and value, but different hues)
- Amber should look into IBM Model M Keyboards.
"something bad about yo mamma"
This leads me to believe one of two things.
1. "bad" being "TMI bad", in which case Abel probably boned Destania.
2. "bad" being "I hate her bad", in which case... Abel was probably jealous of her after she married Edward. Remember what the SAIA doctor said to Abel? "Silly me... Here I was thinking you actually cared about his welfare since he happened to be Edward Ti'Fiona's Son?"
My thinking? Yaoi. Of course, I'm a yaoi fan, so I naturally look for it, so I'm probably assuming nothing.
Still, I'm really wondering about Abel's connection with Edward Ti'Fiona.
Or......it could be because Destania was once the teacher for the pain and terror department and Abel doesn't want Dan to know that his mom is really the architect for why Dan has dislike towards his own race, because she trained them all how to be hard ruthless murder machines of death and destruction. :mwaha
Just a thought. :D
Quote from: Xeksue on August 24, 2007, 01:33:27 AM
Or......it could be because Destania was once the teacher for the pain and terror department and Abel doesn't want Dan to know that his mom is really the architect for why Dan has dislike towards his own race, because she trained them all how to be hard ruthless murder machines of death and destruction. :mwaha
Just a thought. :D
Actually, that sounds pretty good. *claps*
Now then...
What's Abel's connection with Edward Ti'Fiona? Any thoughts?
Iiiiiiiii'm voting "boned".
Oh come on! That is such a pussy expression on Dan's face in the last panel.
Where's my "Oh yeah?" moment?
They were ex-lovers and Dee only got 'im from the rebound.
Nah.
Im thinking Ed was a friend to him or at least a father figure of sorts for a time.
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on August 24, 2007, 12:51:30 AM
Quote from: AndersW on August 24, 2007, 12:42:20 AM
Abel looks adorable covered in watermelon in the first panel.
I thought he was blushing muchly with that much pink on him, then I remembered the watermelon.
He really looks like strawberry juice right now...
On a side note, Nilae should be the next new character's name.
Quote from: Izkata on August 24, 2007, 01:57:50 AMOn a side note, Nilae should be the next new character's name.
Nah. We should try to come up with anagra--ALIEN? What is Amber doing writing so much about aliens?
Quote from: superluser on August 24, 2007, 02:05:04 AM
Quote from: Izkata on August 24, 2007, 01:57:50 AMOn a side note, Nilae should be the next new character's name.
Nah. We should try to come up with anagra--ALIEN? What is Amber doing writing so much about aliens?
I figured she might might know of someone named Elaine. It was the first thing that I came up with when I saw those letters.
I called (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=3258.30) it, I can't believe I called it, Able and Destania fight alike.
*does his happy dance* *happy dance over*
Back to the game.
I wonder what's going to happen next, things have just gotten interesting between Able and Dan. It looks like they are boding Able and Dan style.
Translation: They fight for a little while then chat like nothing happened.
is it me or do the colors off abel look a bit different. though I like this comic again =3
I love the pink and soggy Abel. Also, surprisingly expressive shoulders.
They're such guys, those two.
Quote from: Xeksue on August 24, 2007, 01:33:27 AM
Or......it could be because Destania was once the teacher for the pain and terror department and Abel doesn't want Dan to know that his mom is really the architect for why Dan has dislike towards his own race, because she trained them all how to be hard ruthless murder machines of death and destruction. :mwaha
Just a thought. :D
maybe but doubtful. one does not need to kill to inflict pain and terror in fact some one who's skilled in inflicting physical pain can keep their prey in agony for hours just shy of passing out and a long way form death if they choose. that is providing that they know enough about their preys tolerances.
Quote from: King Of Hearts on August 24, 2007, 01:41:13 AM
Im thinking Ed was a friend to him or at least a father figure of sorts for a time.
I thought Amber mentioned that Edward and Abel never actually met. Or am I just crazy? :D
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on August 24, 2007, 12:43:21 AM
I think it was Tape who called it: The reason why Dan asked the question was because he actually did think that Abel knew her. And I just remembered ["ugh, you fight like my mom..."] which is pretty much proof that dan figured it out ahead of time.
Yeah, that comment was what triggered the train of thought. I won't say "I told you so" because that would be vain and besides, Amber doesn't like it.
I will however take this opportunity to restate my belief that Dan is smarter than he looks >:3
Quote from: superluser on August 24, 2007, 01:06:53 AM
- Amber should look into IBM Model M Keyboards.
They're not indestructible, as I discovered by destroying mine. However they do rock, and I'm glad I got a replacement even though it cost around $60.
Quote from: AndersW on August 24, 2007, 12:42:20 AM
Abel looks adorable covered in watermelon in the first panel.
I thought it was the LCD colours again at first :rolleyes
Quote from: e_voyager on August 24, 2007, 04:03:56 AM
maybe but doubtful. one does not need to kill to inflict pain and terror in fact some one who's skilled in inflicting physical pain can keep their prey in agony for hours just shy of passing out and a long way form death if they choose. that is providing that they know enough about their preys tolerances.
Wishful thinking, I say. She was going to eat Edward's soul because he happened to be a Being, even after he rescued her. She's now planning
genocide. Abel probably doesn't know that bit (depends on what Fa'Lina knows and how much she told him) but he probably knows she's capable of it since he's known her for a while.
Either way, Dan is going to go ballistic when he finds she ran the Pain and Terror department. Even if he tries to rationalise it later like you did, I'd say he's in for a very nasty shock.
Quote from: Grenn on August 24, 2007, 04:20:31 AM
I thought Amber mentioned that Edward and Abel never actually met. Or am I just crazy? :D
I think so too. It would be a very strange situation to allow them to meet. More likely, Ed killed Aniz and Fa'Lina told Abel.
After that we start to go into conspiracyland with mental theories like "Edward is actually Aniz in disguise again which is why Dee didn't kill him"
Conspiracyland should be avoided at all costs. The tax is too high and the snapping turtles are massing.
It's kind of sweet that Abel isn't tempted to say it anyway out of revenge for the melon attack.
Quote from: Izkata on August 24, 2007, 01:57:50 AM
On a side note, Nilae should be the next new character's name.
"Type it early, type it often."
Quote from: Madmann135 on August 24, 2007, 02:59:33 AM
I called (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php?topic=3258.30) it, I can't believe I called it, Able and Destania fight alike.
*does his happy dance* *happy dance over*
Er, yeah. Tape mentioned, we don't like that, mmkay?
Good lad.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2007, 06:10:10 AM
"Type it early, type it often."
Isn't that what Kaskar got booted for doing? :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 05:17:09 AM
It's kind of sweet that Abel isn't tempted to say it anyway out of revenge for the melon attack.
He's a darling. I bet he appreciates fine tea and Italian biscuits.
Quote from: Grenn on August 24, 2007, 04:20:31 AM
Quote from: King Of Hearts on August 24, 2007, 01:41:13 AM
Im thinking Ed was a friend to him or at least a father figure of sorts for a time.
I thought Amber mentioned that Edward and Abel never actually met. Or am I just crazy? :D
Whoops... I guess I didn't see that lil' tidbit before.
Hmm... new theory...
Maybe he has some kind of preconception abut Ed with that He built up from his interactions with Dee. The whole referring of Dan as Ed's son making Abel think makes me think that there's more to it somehow.
Abel- Before I am completely honest with you, could you put down that axe?
Dan- Sure
Abel- and sit down, quietly, over there
Dan- ooookay
Abel- and wait a half an hour for me to drive to an undisclosed location where I will use a public telephone to call you and tell you
Dan- Really, how could it possibly be that bad
30 minutes later
Abel- *whisper whisper*
Dan- You know, I will try to kill you now, I think if i concentrate hard enough I can do it over the phone
Abel- *choke noises*
Nice, Brun. I like it.
And yeah, Amber has said that Ed and Abel never met. Multiple times, in fact.
Also, just to help stay out of conspiracyland, what she's mentioned about the inner workings of hybrid genetics indicates that Ed could not possibly be Aniz in another disguise, even if what we know about the plot does allow it, because that would make 'Lexsi a succubus, and she's a very confirmed Being.
Similar to how we ought to all know that May was a Being. Abel got most of his phisical characteristics from her, and what's been said before is that most hybrid offspring take most physical characteristics from the Being parent, but are of the Creature parent's species.
She's also mentioned that such rules are subject to change, of course...
Yeah, I think I'm guessing with the ones who say thumpa-thumpa was involved. Also, on a totally unrelated note, I smell watermelon right now.(the artificial flavoring which doesn't taste anything like watermelon, by the way, not the actual fruit.)
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 09:03:57 AM
Also, just to help stay out of conspiracyland, what she's mentioned about the inner workings of hybrid genetics indicates that Ed could not possibly be Aniz in another disguise, even if what we know about the plot does allow it, because that would make 'Lexsi a succubus, and she's a very confirmed Being.
Alexsi's mother was a Being, and we never saw her. I'm not convinced that a mix always results in a Creature. This was one of the Devin theories - that Devin was Aniz' child, but he left when he saw Devin wasn't a Creature.
How'z about this: Destania is Aniz' sister! :U And Aniz is actually Dan's father's father! :U So Dan is the result of an incestual pairing... thus the reason he's a moron most of the time. :B
Quote from: Zina on August 24, 2007, 12:38:38 AMAbel and Destania totally boned.
That's my theory. And it's the right one. Or so I hear.
Heh. But why would that mean Abel saying something bad about her?
Unless...
"Dan, the horrible truth is... your mum gave me herpes."
"Oh..."
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 09:03:57 AM
Also, just to help stay out of conspiracyland, what she's mentioned about the inner workings of hybrid genetics indicates that Ed could not possibly be Aniz in another disguise, even if what we know about the plot does allow it, because that would make 'Lexsi a succubus, and she's a very confirmed Being.
Alexsi's mother was a Being, and we never saw her. I'm not convinced that a mix always results in a Creature. This was one of the Devin theories - that Devin was Aniz' child, but he left when he saw Devin wasn't a Creature.
I always figured the odds for Being-Creature offspring to be Being or Creature was fifty-fifty...
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 09:03:57 AM
And yeah, Amber has said that Ed and Abel never met. Multiple times, in fact.
In which case... Edward is probably responsible for Aniz' demise. In which case... "Go, person who killed my evil father!"
(I like how we're all assuming that Aniz is dead...)
Anyways... if it's not yaoi (and honestly, we have Jyrras and whatever Wildy writes for that stuff), then...
Abel boned Destania.
I'm gonna laugh if we're all wrong, though.
I'm gonna laugh if you're right!
did Abel sleep with Dan's mom?
Is Dan's mother really a man Cubi?
Find out next time on DMFA...
Quote from: Zachski on August 24, 2007, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 09:03:57 AM
And yeah, Amber has said that Ed and Abel never met. Multiple times, in fact.
In which case... Edward is probably responsible for Aniz' demise. In which case... "Go, person who killed my evil father!"
That's been my working theory. Despite their bickering and the bat incident, Abel is being very protective of Dan, seemingly
because of the Edward connection. Even the paint trick was ultimately for Dan's greater good. It's like he owes the Ti'Fiona line really big, and ridding the world of his abusive father (who killed his mother's husband, and likely Hennya too) might fit the bill.
If Abel was jealous because Ed ended up with Dee instead of him, he ought to loathe or at least dislike Dan, kind of like Snape in Harry Potter 7 (minor spoiler!). At the very least he would have pointed and laughed when Dan got molested by Nirfy. Instead he was horrified and not just because of the robe.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 11:00:42 AM
Quote from: Zachski on August 24, 2007, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 09:03:57 AM
And yeah, Amber has said that Ed and Abel never met. Multiple times, in fact.
In which case... Edward is probably responsible for Aniz' demise. In which case... "Go, person who killed my evil father!"
That's been my working theory. Despite their bickering and the bat incident, Abel is being very protective of Dan, seemingly because of the Edward connection. Even the paint trick was ultimately for Dan's greater good. It's like he owes the Ti'Fiona line really big, and ridding the world of his abusive father (who killed his mother's husband, and likely Hennya too) might fit the bill.
If Abel was jealous because Ed ended up with Dee instead of him, he ought to loathe or at least dislike Dan, kind of like Snape in Harry Potter 7 (minor spoiler!). At the very least he would have pointed and laughed when Dan got molested by Nirfy. Instead he was horrified and not just because of the robe.
Plenty of chalked up theories but as I said before...Amber holds the key to our answers and she'd never say anything unless it was 50% truthful
Perhaps Abel is afraid that Dan would be upset at the idea of his mother teaching pain and terror at SAIA. As an adventurer, Dan spends his life fighing creatures (except cubi) who spread pain and terror throughout the realm. Abel had promised not to be a monster, and Destania was essentially teaching Abel how to be a monster.
The Edward-killed-Aniz hypothesis only works if the supposed killing happened only a few decades ago. Let's not forget that Abel is, what was it, 400 years old?
Quote from: Alondro on August 24, 2007, 11:43:06 AM
The Edward-killed-Aniz hypothesis only works if the supposed killing happened only a few decades ago. Let's not forget that Abel is, what was it, 400 years old?
He's almost that but not yet kitty..
Quote from: Alondro on August 24, 2007, 11:43:06 AM
The Edward-killed-Aniz hypothesis only works if the supposed killing happened only a few decades ago. Let's not forget that Abel is, what was it, 400 years old?
I do not grok. Edward can't be more than about 50. Therefore, any interactions between Edward (Edward is specifically named) and Abel or his line can only have taken place within that timespan.
Do you think you can clarify what you meant?
Quote from: Zedd on August 24, 2007, 11:24:22 AM
Plenty of chalked up theories but as I said before...Amber holds the key to our answers and she'd never say anything unless it was much less than 50% truthful
Just edited that to be correct. Hope you don't mind, Zedd... ;-]
I personally believe Amber to be truthful but deceptive. Sometimes, what she says is not what you think she's saying. In other words, tell the truth, but not necessarily the whole truth, and let the readers make fools of themselves with their assumptions.
By the way, I just noticed that Abel referred to Alexsi as being very scary (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_675.php). Since Destania was an instructor of pain and terror, perhaps she gave Alexsi some private turoring.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on August 24, 2007, 12:09:40 PM
Quote from: Zedd on August 24, 2007, 11:24:22 AM
Plenty of chalked up theories but as I said before...Amber holds the key to our answers and she'd never say anything unless it was much less than 50% truthful
Just edited that to be correct. Hope you don't mind, Zedd... ;-]
Nah no problem amgio
Quote from: Naldru on August 24, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
I personally believe Amber to be truthful but deceptive. Sometimes, what she says is not what you think she's saying. In other words, tell the truth, but not necessarily the whole truth, and let the readers make fools of themselves with their assumptions.
Heh. Confusion, there, methinks. I was referring to the ideas of everyone in channel being less than 50% truthful.
Amber herself, I believe she tells the truth as much as anyone.
Er, if everyone here is less than 50% truthful, and Amber is as truthful as anybody here ...
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 05:17:09 AMIt's kind of sweet that Abel isn't tempted to say it anyway out of revenge for the melon attack.
Well, you don't start fights for no reason.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 11:00:42 AMIf Abel was jealous because Ed ended up with Dee instead of him
Yeah, I don't think it was ever anything serious enough for Abel to get jealous over.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 11:49:35 AMQuote from: Alondro on August 24, 2007, 11:43:06 AMThe Edward-killed-Aniz hypothesis only works if the supposed killing happened only a few decades ago. Let's not forget that Abel is, what was it, 400 years old?
I do not grok. Edward can't be more than about 50. Therefore, any interactions between Edward (Edward is specifically named) and Abel or his line can only have taken place within that timespan.
I thought it was pretty simple. For that to work, Aniz and Edward could never meet in Abel's story, and Aniz cannot have died more than 50 or so years ago.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 11:49:35 AM
I do not grok. Edward can't be more than about 50. Therefore, any interactions between Edward (Edward is specifically named) and Abel or his line can only have taken place within that timespan.
That's not entirely accurate. Since we don't know the exact circumstances for why dragons have Ed, it's possible that mabye he was aligned with them at one point and traveled through time with them, until he did something to warrant his imprisonment.
I thought it was pretty obvious that the dragons are holding Ed hostage to get to Dee, which is also the only reason he's not dead yet. If Edward and Destania had never married, Ed would have been happy-go-lucky free.
I should warn that this has never been explicitly mentioned in the comic, only vaguely implied, so there's a good reason that I'm very very wrong, but I'm shaving with Occam's razor.
Anyway, if Edward is to have done anything to make Abel think significantly of him, then it has to have happened within Ed's lifespan. Also, I'm fairly sure Amber said that Abel felt a debt of gratitude towards Ed, even though they've never actually met. This multiple times, as well.
Additionally, Amber has not confirmed that Aniz was Devin's father. That, the community came up with on our own, and I personally think it's false. Remember, there was some degree of surprise at Alexsi not being a succubus, and she explained that Dee was not her biological mother. I think the odds for a Being/Creature offspring to be a Creature are significantly greater than 50/50. My guess is closer to 9 in 10 in favor.
Because 100% is a lot closer to 90% than it is to 50%.
Quote from: superluser on August 24, 2007, 03:44:21 PM
Well, you don't start fights for no reason.
Dan started it.
QuoteI thought it was pretty simple. For that to work, Aniz and Edward could never meet in Abel's story, and Aniz cannot have died more than 50 or so years ago.
That's self-evident. I can't imagine anyone expecting Edward to turn up in Abel's story, because it was set 350 years before he was born.
Quote from: Xeksue on August 24, 2007, 03:50:39 PM
That's not entirely accurate. Since we don't know the exact circumstances for why dragons have Ed, it's possible that mabye he was aligned with them at one point and traveled through time with them, until he did something to warrant his imprisonment.
I don't know if they have time-travel. We never figured out if Pyroduck was telling the truth about that.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 04:53:26 PM
I don't know if they have time-travel. We never figured out if Pyroduck was telling the truth about that.
Well we don't know if they don't got it either, so that one is kinda up in the air. For that matter it's possible that the reason behind why Abel feels he owes Ed could be based on a lie as well. A theoretical example being Fa'lina is sick of Abel spiraling into depression so she lies to Abel and says Aniz was killed by some adventurer linked to Ed or Ed himself. Why she would choose said name, I don't know, it could have been completely random, or she might have heard of Edward because of his adventuring antics.
Here is the quote where I originally posted the Edward killed Aniz idea.
Quote from: AndersW on April 28, 2007, 12:31:46 PM
Lets see how well my first crazy theory holds water.
First a review of the relevant facts.
- Cid, Edward, and Aniz all have a reasonably similar appearance(fur color at least)
- both Cid and Edward were adventures
- Abel appears to owe Edward for something (See #527 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php))
- Amber has said that Abel and Edward have not actually met
For this theory lets assume that Cid was an actual person, and Aniz killed him and pretended to be Cid. Lets say after Cid was married, but before Abel was conceived. Aniz has likely done this sort of think in the past, and will continue to do so in the future. He picks an adventure that looks reasonably similar to him, and kills them so he can pretend to be them. Aniz probably tried to kill Edward so he could impersonate him, but Edward got the better of him and killed Aniz. Lets say when Edward was married to his first wife, but before Alexi was conceived.(Don't want other siblings around that look normal) Abel somehow hears that Edward killed Aniz, and feels he owes Edward. It explains how Abel could owe Edward without having to ever meet him.
There it is, feel free to pick it to pieces.
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 04:09:18 PM
Additionally, Amber has not confirmed that Aniz was Devin's father.
That's why it's a theory and not fact :P
QuoteThat, the community came up with on our own, and I personally think it's false.
This is true, but one good reason why the story about Devin's father is likely to be significant is that Amber included it over a longish stretch when she was also saying that Abel's Story was going on and on. In other words, it could easily have been edited out.
Quote from: Xeksue on August 24, 2007, 05:04:55 PM
Well we don't know if they don't got [time-travel] either, so that one is kinda up in the air.
Yes, but it adds an extra supposition which we have very little evidence for. Occam's Razor :B
The idea that Aniz might live until about 30 years ago until he is slain by an adventurer named Edward Ti'Fiona doesn't really require anything else to support it. Unless of course Aniz is killed by Hennya in the next week or so >:3
My feeling was that the reason the bit about Devin's father was included was to provide Abel with a role model of somebody who faced a really crummy youth and managed to live with it.
I believe that this scene (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_54.php) was the point of discussing Devin's father.
As I mentioned before, Aniz and Devin's father are totally different types of monsters. Devin's father was looking for people he could dominate, while Aniz wanted people who would stand up to him. Unless Aniz is suffering from multiple personalities, I can't see them being the same person.
However, there is another possibility if Abel felt a strong obligation to Destania. Since Edward saved Destania's life (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php), he might feel indebted to Edward for that reason. As for why Edward and not Destania is mentioned in this scene (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php), would you trust anything said by this sadistic doctor?
Quote from: Naldru on August 24, 2007, 06:32:30 PM
However, there is another possibility if Abel felt a strong obligation to Destania. Since Edward saved Destania's life, he might feel indebted to Edward for that reason.
A very elegant theory. I'm impressed (and also going "why didn't I think of that?").
As for "why not Destania" - that's unexplained anyway, even if we completely ignore the Edward link. Why didn't he mention it when he was flicking through Dan's file if he knew Destania that well?
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 06:41:35 PM
A very elegant theory. I'm impressed (and also going "why didn't I think of that?").
Because you mind has been insufficiently twisted by life. Give it another twenty years of life, or a few more years of exposure to Amber's writing.
Abel is avoiding the question, but with good reason. Most guys don't react well to "your mamma" insults or the like. Though I think Dan is man enough to not care.
Quote from: Naldru on August 24, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
By the way, I just noticed that Abel referred to Alexsi as being very scary (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_675.php).
Not only that, he said she was "the third scariest thing I've ever met" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_623.php). Is Destania standing beside her daughter on that podium?
The top three scariest things Abel has seen.
1. Naked Aaryanna
2. Destania in a bad mood.
3. Alexsi in a bad mood.
That's my hypothesis, at least.
My understanding is that Abel being chased out of Lost Lake for the day is now the fourth scariest thing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_623.php) and Alexsi's reaction to Merlitz leaving is now the scariest thing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_675.php). And there was a comment in the latter scene that Alexsis could be even scarier.
It sounds like Destania gave Alexsis the post-graduate course in terror.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 04:53:26 PMQuoteI thought it was pretty simple. For that to work, Aniz and Edward could never meet in Abel's story, and Aniz cannot have died more than 50 or so years ago.
That's self-evident. I can't imagine anyone expecting Edward to turn up in Abel's story, because it was set 350 years before he was born.
Unless Abel's story jumps ahead some 300 years ;) It is possible.. hehe
Quote from: Naldru on August 25, 2007, 09:35:39 AM
My understanding is that Abel being chased out of Lost Lake for the day is now the fourth scariest thing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_623.php) and Alexsi's reaction to Merlitz leaving is now the scariest thing (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_675.php). And there was a comment in the latter scene that Alexsis could be even scarier.
It sounds like Destania gave Alexsis the post-graduate course in terror.
In 623 Abel says
"Your sister is the Third scariest thing I've ever Met" This Implies that its a person or a "thing" not an event, because you can not "Meet" an event. I am guessing Aary and Dee are the first two.. but not in that order
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: Raist on August 24, 2007, 04:09:18 PM
Additionally, Amber has not confirmed that Aniz was Devin's father.
That's why it's a theory and not fact :P
I think I remember reading that Amber confirmed that Aniz
Was not Devin's father.. I could be making up memories tho :mowdizzy
Quote from: Aurawyn on August 25, 2007, 11:44:50 AM
In 623 Abel says
"Your sister is the Third scariest thing I've ever Met"
This Implies that its a person or a "thing" not an event, because you can not "Meet" an event. I am guessing Aary and Dee are the first two.. but not in that order
I'd go for Alexsis being the scariest, Destania being number two, and Fa'lina being number three. (Her reaction to Merlitz leaving moved her to number one.) I also feel that Fa'lina and Destania could outdo Alexsis if they wanted to.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 24, 2007, 04:53:26 PMDan started it.
Dan started a spat. Talking trash about someone's mom, most especially if it's true, is an easy way to start up a Hatfield/McCoy feud that would last a lot longer than whatever this watermelon manhandling will.
Quote from: Naldru on August 24, 2007, 06:32:30 PMHowever, there is another possibility if Abel felt a strong obligation to Destania. Since Edward saved Destania's life (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php), he might feel indebted to Edward for that reason.
This leaves two holes.
One, Destania apparently didn't communicate with SAIA after she left. If she had, she certainly would have mentioned having an incubus son--probably well before mentioning that Edward had saved her.
Two, if it were true that Abel feels obligation to Edward by extension of Destania, Ink would have mentioned that Dan was Dee's son, not Edward's.
Quote from: Aurawyn on August 25, 2007, 11:44:50 AMI think I remember reading that Amber confirmed that Aniz Was not Devin's father.. I could be making up memories tho :mowdizzy
She might have said that Devin's father was not Cid, but I don't think she's said anything else about it.
Quote from: superluser on August 25, 2007, 11:05:51 PM
This leaves two holes.
One, Destania apparently didn't communicate with SAIA after she left. If she had, she certainly would have mentioned having an incubus son--probably well before mentioning that Edward had saved her.
I'm not so sure about that. Dan's got a picture of his clan symbol, and Alexsi is sleeping in Dee's bed, which also has the clan symbol on it. Now maybe she managed to convince some local artisan to carve the bed for her, and had a graphics design guy knock up a poster of her clan symbol, both without drawing attention to the fact that she's a succubus.
I'd be more inclined to believe that she went back to SAIA to formally resign and bring back a few heirlooms. That would have gone directly to Fa'Lina who may not have chosen to share it with Abel or Aary.
Fa'Lina seemed to know what had happened when she was talking to Aary about losing Pain and Terror professors. That might mean she knew. Or it might simply be that Aary told her in the covering letter. Difficult to say.
Dan's file is an interesting point. It's not small. If they had just Aary's letter to go on, it would have fit on the back of a postcard.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 26, 2007, 06:28:29 AM
Dan's file is an interesting point. It's not small. If they had just Aary's letter to go on, it would have fit on the back of a postcard.
That is an interesting point. Dan went and became an adventurer after Destania left to go find Edward, so how would they get that info.
The file on Dan was probably mostly about his adventuring exploits taken from public media such as newspapers and, more specifically, the obituaries. i would assume that SAIA would keep close tabs on the public doings of known slayers.... who knows, some of the cubi may have even had a Dan fanclub and some posters of him in suggestive poses, somehow it seems fitting and i can think of little else that would freak him out more then finding out someone has an action figure or yaoi comicbook of him.
Quote from: Brunhidden on August 26, 2007, 09:00:35 AM
The file on Dan was probably mostly about his adventuring exploits taken from public media such as newspapers and, more specifically, the obituaries. i would assume that SAIA would keep close tabs on the public doings of known slayers.... who knows, some of the cubi may have even had a Dan fanclub and some posters of him in suggestive poses, somehow it seems fitting and i can think of little else that would freak him out more then finding out someone has an action figure or yaoi comicbook of him.
You mean . . . fanfic exists in Furrae?!
Somehow I'd doubt that Dan would get anything ala 'The Boy Who Lived'. Now, there might be things of
his father to such effect (perhaps to the point that Destainia sought him out in a crazed fangirl sort of way), but Dan would by and large still be seen as an infant.
Fa'lina is head of SAIA, and probably has contacts with hundreds, if not thousands, of graduates. She probably has friends among the other races as well. In addition, she has the letter from Arrayanna. (Applications frequently involve things such as job history and other personal details.) This isn't even considering her own magical abiliities or those of those of the other teachers at SAIA. Given all this, I don't think it would take much time to build a file on Dan.
Quote from: Naldru on August 26, 2007, 11:35:10 AM
Fa'lina is head of SAIA, and probably has contacts with hundreds, if not thousands, of graduates. She probably has friends among the other races as well. In addition, she has the letter from Arrayanna. (Applications frequently involve things such as job history and other personal details.) This isn't even considering her own magical abiliities or those of those of the other teachers at SAIA. Given all this, I don't think it would take much time to build a file on Dan.
It's entirely possible that some or all of the background extras are SAIA graduates keeping an eye on Dan for Fa'lina. The heck with "building a file", if she can keep tabs on him in real time.
Quote from: Aleolus on August 24, 2007, 09:20:33 PM
Abel is avoiding the question, but with good reason. Most guys don't react well to "your mamma" insults or the like.
How exactly does Dan being a guy factor into this, anyway? I expect most girls would be just as offended by unkind comments about their mothers.
Girls aren't the ones who toss around "yo mamma" jokes. They are primarily used as guy-to-guy insults.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on August 26, 2007, 03:18:21 PM
Girls aren't the ones who toss around "yo mamma" jokes. They are primarily used as guy-to-guy insults.
To an extent, maybe, but Abel cites Dan being a guy as why he won't even say it
to him. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Does to me.
He's not even going to give a yo mama joke anyway, especially since any mention of it is not being said IN the comic. And that's ALL it is, a joke about a joke made OUTSIDE the comic. If you're going to get into debates about that over this comic...
Maybe Abel feels that guys are more likely to take a statement as an insult and start swinging. Whereas girls might give you five seconds to explain before bringing out the giant baku hammer. It should be mentioned that Abel doesn't know how much Dan and Alexsis know about their mother's past. It may be that after he says it all, Alexsis and Dan will simply say "Well, I knew all that."
I get the feeling that Destania's approach to teaching is not to take the gentle approach (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_703.php). If she throws her own children into the wall, can you imagine what she does to the typical student. I can picture Destania's method of teaching survival training to Abel (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_713.php), and it isn't a pretty picture.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 26, 2007, 06:28:29 AMDan's file is an interesting point. It's not small. If they had just Aary's letter to go on, it would have fit on the back of a postcard.
The one from 426? It probably includes his application letter, probably a little information on Dan gathered by a PI from public records or even a clipping service, possibly a brief write-up on Lost Lake, maybe a copy of his acceptance letter, and most certainly some information about his mother, about whom they would have enough to fill several filing cabinets.
Note that Fa'Lina didn't seem to need to let out the bottom of the folder. In fact, we only see one paper in it (though I concede that there are probably more papers in there).
What about the other point? That Ink would surely have mentioned Destania if Abel were indebted to her?
Quote from: superluser on August 27, 2007, 12:27:30 AM
What about the other point? That Ink would surely have mentioned Destania if Abel were indebted to her?
Naldru already covered that. Not convincingly, I'll admit. I have nothing further to add in that regard.
Quote from: Tapewolf on August 27, 2007, 05:57:32 AM
Quote from: superluser on August 27, 2007, 12:27:30 AM
What about the other point? That Ink would surely have mentioned Destania if Abel were indebted to her?
Naldru already covered that. Not convincingly, I'll admit. I have nothing further to add in that regard.
I dont think the big fox has much to say. All he knows its fun push buttons of many of his students.