Hey, I've got an idea, May--why don't you *give the charm to Abel*?
If you stick him up against a wall or something, Cid probably won't notice the lack of wings until you have time to explain it all.
Edit: Eep! Lousy numberpad. Date fixed.
ARGH CLIFFHANGER!
And hmm, May seems to be way too worried about this. Maybe she is hiding something?
Edit: "Was" an adventurer? Guess that puts the camp out the rest that say cid has to be a cubi 'cause he's still advernturing at that age.
In the fabled words of Harry from 'Beebo: The Cat what has Facial Hair' - "Oh snap!"
Ah Zen...Figures that would happened
Quote from: Kattuccino on March 24, 2007, 12:50:42 AMAnd hmm, May seems to be way too worried about this. Maybe she is hiding something?
I dunno. That had been my theory, but her reaction here seems not to fit. Unless she's trying to come up with excuses to take the attention away from her.
As for being too worried, if you had just heard stories about a creature that rips the faces off of its victims and wears them like Hannibal Lecter (the impression that I get from Hennya's description is *not* that of shapeshifting), then you might be concerned about what your adventurer husband might say.
Of course, if she did give the morphing amulet to Abel, that should be pretty conclusive proof that Abel is not being impersonated.
I'm just glad that I forgot the title that I initially had planned for this strip: It's Goofy Time!
I think we know which parent is the cubi now
"She said a swear."
Anyway, The charm would get rid of his backwings as well, so that'd just lead to more suspicion.
Quote from: Manawolf on March 24, 2007, 01:21:56 AMAnyway, The charm would get rid of his backwings as well, so that'd just lead to more suspicion.
Which is why you put him up against a wall or something.
Or, you could give the charm to Abel, and preemptively tell Cid that Abel found a creature-being morphing amulet. Since Abel still appears to be Abel (and not, say, Dr. Ink), Cid can assume that Abel's not being impersonated. When the charm is removed, and the headwings appear, Cid will just assume that someone cast a spell on Abel to make him look like an incubus.
Quote from: superluser on March 24, 2007, 01:08:07 AM
Of course, if she did give the morphing amulet to Abel, that should be pretty conclusive proof that Abel is not being impersonated.
I don't think so. It's not a "True Form" amulet, it's a Creature-To-Being amulet, as Hennya said a couple of comics ago. I mean, it morphed her
away from her true form!
How is putting him against a wall is going to hide missing wings. It's not like they're small enough to fold up completely behind his back.
Well, its entirely possible he'll make an extremely disarming comment, like "Oh, it looks like your headwings have finally come in Abel". Hilarity ensues. Or he'll go ballistic. Or accuse his wife of cheating on him. Or realize an incubus has impersonated him. Or make the same assumption the others made.
In the end, I'm sure this won't end exactly "well" for Abel, and I'm sure his father will figure out/know he's really an incubus.
Quote from: Izkata on March 24, 2007, 01:31:12 AMI don't think so. It's not a "True Form" amulet, it's a Creature-To-Being amulet, as Hennya said a couple of comics ago. I mean, it morphed her away from her true form!
I would think that it would be difficult to have anything that powerful work without disrupting existing morphs. Remember--it's not designed for shapeshifters, because they wouldn't need it.
Quote from: Manawolf on March 24, 2007, 01:31:51 AMHow is putting him against a wall is going to hide missing wings. It's not like they're small enough to fold up completely behind his back.
Given episodes like 56 and 30, I'd suspect that it would probably be possible for Abel to hide them well enough that no one would notice that his wings are gone unless they're actually looking for them. Cid would probably just assume that they're there, and in fact, when he thinks back to that day, he'd probably remember seeing them. Memory makes a habit of metonymy.
Somewhere, drowned out in the sound of a slammed door was the sound of a brain snapping. Poor May and Abel. :<
Oh Dear. May had better help Abel out fast, else, something very dire could happen.
Cid, being a former adventurer, could easily recognize the marks of a Cubi, and Abel is too inexperienced to hide them, of course. Perhaps there shall be a family spat, or perhaps, he shall simply attack the Cubi impersonating his son. Cubi are dangerous creatures, after all.
It would be the work of a moment to yell "It's not Abel, it's an incubus!", and one thing leading to another, Abel could be driven from his family as a monstrous incubus impersonating their son, never to see them again. May and Cid, of course, would never know what 'really' happened to their poor son.
It would explain alot about ol' angsty pants loincloth, at least.
Have to admit, Cid would pick 'just' the wrong time to walk in. No one seems to slip Abel the charm yet, or anything much yet .
I wonder what good news Cid has. Maybe, " I was tracking down some demons and I found a Cubi dead after another groups battle ? " Or maybe a variation on such ?
Quote from: Cogidubnus on March 24, 2007, 02:17:44 AM
Oh Dear. May had better help Abel out fast, else, something very dire could happen.
Cid, being a former adventurer, could easily recognize the marks of a Cubi, and Abel is too inexperienced to hide them, of course. Perhaps there shall be a family spat, or perhaps, he shall simply attack the Cubi impersonating his son. Cubi are dangerous creatures, after all.
It would be the work of a moment to yell "It's not Abel, it's an incubus!", and one thing leading to another, Abel could be driven from his family as a monstrous incubus impersonating their son, never to see them again. May and Cid, of course, would never know what 'really' happened to their poor son.
It would explain alot about ol' angsty pants loincloth, at least.
Any Cubi skilled enough to shapeshift into Abel's perfect likeness would have the skill to hide their headwings, so I don't imagine Cid would think that, initially. He'd probably have suspicions but I don't see him attacking his son on sight. Getting startled or upset, sure, but not violent.
awwww those two snake heads are so cute when they pull that face :3
ooooh, freakout time.. i love these..
although some answers as to the hows and whys of abel being a 'cubi may be answered in subsequent issues..
although i should really be doing other things than perusing the forums and DMFA.. >.> <.<
Nobody cared when he had the first two wings, so either way their son is still a creature...
On another note, yes, I might go crazy too if my son looked like... like... shit, too.
[Whistles the theme from Company of Wolves again]
The big question is whether - assuming he is a Being - Cid will know what Abel is. Devin had no idea, despite being able to vanquish an Angel. If he doesn't know about 'cubi either, then he probably won't see / want to see that his son is really an incubus.
Which would be fine for Abel until they realise he isn't ageing.
The above comments are all valid, however no one has said the important one.
Abel looks :mowmeep ing adorable in panel 2.
Well I am all glad for the comic so far even if its a cliffhanger moment, Cid might get might peeved seeing his son looking something he has no clue and/or does know about
Quote from: Zedd on March 24, 2007, 07:04:43 AM
Well I am all glad for the comic so far even if its a cliffhanger moment, Cid might get might peeved seeing his son looking something he has no clue and/or does know about
true, or Cid might just be the 'cubi part of Abel's bloodline, as for looking old, well, 'cubi ARE shapeshifters and all, it wouldn't be too far from the truth.
guess i'll just haveta wait and see..
Prediction:
Cid goes: "Oh, I knew that since his clan mark showed up."
Ciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid... you got some 'splainin' to do.
The first thing that ran through my mind was 'Dun-dun-duuuuuuuh.'
The second was a quote: "This will all end in tears, I just know it."
-Nar
It will interesting If Cid gets the amulet, and it does change his form. It does not seem to work on Beings. May had the amulet,and it didn't change her. But it may change a Creature shapeshifted into a Being. We don't know.
But there will have be some way of May to figure out that Abel's father or Cid's family has Cubi Blood in them. and If it is too Soon then May could lose her mind, if she is not close to that alright.
PBH
:) No comment.
Quote from: Narethlian on March 24, 2007, 09:05:59 AM
The first thing that ran through my mind was 'Dun-dun-duuuuuuuh.'
The first thing that ran through mine was "Headwings are
serious business."This is where I think that the line about Abel promising not to be a monster will finally surface, especially if Cid's discovery results in a terrible outburst. Maybe Cid and May will get into a horrible argument if it Abel's conception
was thanks to an Incubus impersonating Cid, and then Cid might turn on Abel next and go on declaring that he's a monster, he's not his son, et cetera et cetera all that angsty jazz and that May actually did cheat on him and that everything the townspeople said about her was right.
Abel might be driven from the home despite May's earnest protests, and left to wander the streets. But I have no idea what would happen next after that. I just think that it won't be pretty.
Personally I want to find out what Kria was doing to Devin's corpse.
Quote from: Moonfrost on March 24, 2007, 09:21:19 AM
:) No comment.
Then why post at all?
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Cid said "Hey, ladies," so he probably wasn't expecting Abel to be back yet.
That means that May and Hennya could end up stuffing Abel in a broom cupboard until they can figure out how to break it to Cid.
Or... it could be that BOTH of them are, again, cubi, and both of them try to keep their identities hidden as much as possible. 'Whatibus' could just be acting.
I don't get all the talk about may or cid changing form after getting their hands on the amulet... It was already said RIGHT IN THE COMIC that it's creature-to-being... if they already look like a being, nothing is really going to happen, as you've seen it already.
Quote from: Goatmon on March 24, 2007, 03:34:05 AMAny Cubi skilled enough to shapeshift into Abel's perfect likeness would have the skill to hide their headwings, so I don't imagine Cid would think that, initially.
This is true. I might suggest, however, that there are no ditherers in foxholes, and Cid may decide to kill it just to be safe.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 24, 2007, 06:14:04 AMThe big question is whether - assuming he is a Being - Cid will know what Abel is. Devin had no idea
Do we know that? He saw the headwings, and freaked out...possibly because he knew that they were the sign of an incubus.
Quote from: Prof B Hunnydew on March 24, 2007, 09:15:36 AMIt will interesting If Cid gets the amulet, and it does change his form. It does not seem to work on Beings. May had the amulet,and it didn't change her. But it may change a Creature shapeshifted into a Being.
As Aridas pointed out, if they've shifted into beings already, the amulet should not morph `cubi. I'm speculating that the amulet morphs the creature into a being analogue of their base form. So if she's impersonating someone else, the amulet should change her into a being version of her base form, thus blowing her cover.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 24, 2007, 10:27:15 AMThat means that May and Hennya could end up stuffing Abel in a broom cupboard until they can figure out how to break it to Cid.
Heh. And then Abel sneezes and Cid finds an incubus spying on them in their cupboard.
Quote from: superluser on March 24, 2007, 10:59:49 AM
Do we know that? He saw the headwings, and freaked out...possibly because he knew that they were the sign of an incubus.
Yeah, but he also wondered what they were, and was surprised when he found out whatever it was on his head was attached. He said, and I quote: "...The hell are these?"
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 24, 2007, 11:39:15 AMYeah, but he also wondered what they were, and was surprised when he found out whatever it was on his head was attached. He said, and I quote: "...The hell are these?"
OK. Let's assume that you're looking up into the westering sky here on Earth when you see a precisely correct version of Pyroduck flying overhead. Brown body, red tail, yellow eyes, bracers, the whole bit.
Your first reaction going to be which of the following:
1.) Oh, there's Pyro.
2.) ...the hell?
2) ... is Pyro doing -here-? -Is- it Pyro, or are my eyes deceiving me?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 24, 2007, 12:33:38 PM2) ... is Pyro doing -here-? -Is- it Pyro, or are my eyes deceiving me?
Or, by simple substitution:
-Are- those headwings, or are my eyes deceiving me?
That's really stretching things.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 24, 2007, 01:05:24 PMThat's really stretching things.
No, it isn't. Unless you think I mean ``the hell -Are- those (Devin gets killed) headwings, or are my eyes deceiving me?'' Which I don't.
I figure that Devin may be thinking that Abel is trying to spook him, like vampire teeth or fake antennae. There's probably a cottage industry in fake headwings. Devin was probably going to say ``Now's not the time for jokes, Abel, but then realized that they were real.''
Or maybe Devin doesn't know what `cubi are. Doesn't mean that Cid wouldn't--after all, Cid's years older than Devin, and had been adventuring for far longer when he quit.
Hmmm... It seems that the 'shit' which May mentioned is about to hit the fan... :3
*rants!* Ye have spoken the ward of carse and awakened the dragon! :3
And here's the first thing that went through my head after reading the comic: Meow-meow-meow-meow meow-meow-meow-meow meow-meow meow-meow meow-meow-meow-meow... :B
Quote from: superluser on March 24, 2007, 01:27:58 PM
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 24, 2007, 01:05:24 PMThat's really stretching things.
No, it isn't. Unless you think I mean ``the hell -Are- those (Devin gets killed) headwings, or are my eyes deceiving me?'' Which I don't.
I figure that Devin may be thinking that Abel is trying to spook him, like vampire teeth or fake antennae. There's probably a cottage industry in fake headwings. Devin was probably going to say ``Now's not the time for jokes, Abel, but then realized that they were real.''
Or maybe Devin doesn't know what `cubi are. Doesn't mean that Cid wouldn't--after all, Cid's years older than Devin, and had been adventuring for far longer when he quit.
But he wasn't KILLED in mid sentence.
Quote from: Alondro on March 24, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
And here's the first thing that went through my head after reading the comic: Meow-meow-meow-meow meow-meow-meow-meow meow-meow meow-meow meow-meow-meow-meow... :B
While I don't think this is what you meant... you have gotten the Meow Mix song stuck in my head! :E
o/` I want chicken, I want liver. Meow Mix, Meow Mix please deliver o/`
What are these good news you bring? Tell us! We must know! We shall ruin it all!
No, really... even though it might seem as if there's about to be a huge shock and awe in the next panel, I predict that there's just going to be a facedrop for Cid, unless they shove Abel somewhere.
Also, the text that goes with Hennya's first face expression is; Blarg! I am un Ork!
that's beside the point Aridas, what may happen is that Cid sees Abel with wings, a normal sight to him. That's the "there's Pyro" part. There are also headwings, an abnormal sight, but they are unexpected may be explained off as a trick of the light. Hence, the "or my eyes deceiving me?" It all depends on how accepting Cid's brian is of the image.
It seems to be equally possible that he will not question the headwings and instantly know what they are. It all depends on circumstances that can't be determined 100% yet. What you are all saying are logical trains of thought that Cid's brain may take.......except Alondro.
Wether May can hide the headwings or not, Cid will find out later. If he knows something we don't know he knows, then he'll be completely understanding of Abel being a cubi, but maybe not too happy about it.
-Meow
EDIT: Hennya is great at impressions.
Cid has nothing to do with Devin, so don't go telling me i'm wrong about something i'm not even talking about -_-
Exactly, Cid doesn't have anything to do with Devin and I wasn't saying you were wrong, I said it was very possible you are quite right. the thing is, like you stated, you weren't talking about it and that's the problem..... which means that what you said......
wait, WHAT? Start over.
I think, I think I misunderstood you or alot of things. (I appologize for conclusion jumping)
Please explain the argument, I'll shut up and listen.
I know I've seen that incubus face Hennya is doing before....
Oh yeah, it was on an incubus in a painting by Fuseli:
(http://24.106.113.210/otown/fuseli_nightmare_Hennya.jpg)
(Now why does that look familiar?)
That perrty much it...And sides I am still waiting to know whats next in line for the comic cause it looks perrty much we have to wait. And I can do so and I will keep some of my speculations to myself at the moment, cause I am sure they can be used for later.
Her tentacle-heads are saying: A durr...!
I'm still sticking with my latest theory that both Abel's parents has the cubi latent gene, and due to Cid's adventuring the magical residue he was exposed to caused the latent gene to activate for Abel.
That or one of Cid's parents was a cubi and he didn't tell May.
Also for all we know Amber probably used that picture as reference for Hennya's impression.
[off-topic]Gah, every time I see that painting of the incubus, I think about the game "The 7th Guest." Tempts me to click on it and watch that disturbing little animation they had added to it ... [/off-topic]
*random speculative remarks*
What if Cid's an 'adventurer' in the sense that he's an 'adventurer-HUNTER'?
I further speculate that not only is Cid an Incubus, he helped lead the previously-drawn assault. Never mind why he didn't stop Kri'a from taking out Abel . . . Call it under the guise of the test, or maybe that he knew Kri'a wouldn't be able to 'finish the job' anyway, so it was safe to have her approach Abel.
*shuffles out*
Quote from: Tikki on March 24, 2007, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: Alondro on March 24, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
And here's the first thing that went through my head after reading the comic: Meow-meow-meow-meow meow-meow-meow-meow meow-meow meow-meow meow-meow-meow-meow... :B
While I don't think this is what you meant... you have gotten the Meow Mix song stuck in my head! :E
o/` I want chicken, I want liver. Meow Mix, Meow Mix please deliver o/`
Actually, that's exactly what I meant... and exactly what I wanted to happen to those who figured it out! :mwaha It's based on a certain episode of the Simpsons with a tiny part in which Bart reads the thoughts of Principal Skinner and Homer. ;)
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on March 24, 2007, 09:04:18 PM
*random speculative remarks*
What if Cid's an 'adventurer' in the sense that he's an 'adventurer-HUNTER'?
He'd have been playing both sides, then. According to May (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_14.php), Cid has quite a record of protecting their town from Creatures.
Two sides of same coin. So quite amazingly flavors of chaos people adore. Its so odvious now that seeing him maybe in a quite chipper mood if he sees his son like this maybe.
Quote from: Aridas Soulfire on March 24, 2007, 02:18:53 PMBut he wasn't KILLED in mid sentence.
I think you'll note that I said that that wasn't my argument. Mainly because it's stupid.
My argument is that Devin sees the headwings, and may or may not know what headwings are. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that he knows. Devin sees the wings, and figures that either Abel has got some debris on him or he's pulling a rather inopportune prank. Or maybe a trick of the light, who knows? Devin knew Abel from childhood, and knew his parents--Abel's no incubus. He grabs on, and upon discovering that they're attached, he puts two and two together and figures out that Abel must be an incubus.
Quote from: Density D. on March 24, 2007, 03:04:35 PMThere are also headwings, an abnormal sight, but they are unexpected may be explained off as a trick of the light. Hence, the "or my eyes deceiving me?" It all depends on how accepting Cid's brian is of the image.
I don't think so. You'd expect a father to know how many wings his kids have. If your kid showed up with more, that would be a little hard to take. If he showed up with less, he might be able to pass it off if viewed at the proper angle.
Quote from: Zedd on March 24, 2007, 11:44:06 PMIts so odvious now that seeing him maybe in a quite chipper mood if he sees his son like this maybe.
Chipper mood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_%28film%29)?
--Meow (that's right. I *think* words I would never say)
A much easier idea, instead of dumping poor Abel in a cupboard, is for someone to put a hat on him. :batman
If all else fails, a tea cosy will do the trick nicely. :ill :chef
The Incubus in the Cupboard...
Wasn't that a book by Lynne Reid Banks that became a movie in 1995?
Quote from: Reaver225 on March 25, 2007, 10:07:10 AMIf all else fails, a tea cosy will do the trick nicely.
Nah. I think he's more of an Abel the Edge (or Abel the Arrow-Dodger). Bent as the `cubi academy and as hard as the doctor that moonlights there. Apparently, it's impossible to kill the orphan.
...OK. Maybe not, but putting a tea cosy on his head would virtually ensure that he dies.
-- walks away whistling the Tetris theme
Because he dodges arrows, Avi.
And I am sure somehow there will be more of that matrixing the snake moments when this story progresses. Yup-yup
Quote from: Zedd on March 24, 2007, 11:44:06 PMTwo sides of same coin. So quite amazingly flavors of chaos people adore. Its so odvious now that seeing him maybe in a quite chipper mood if he sees his son like this maybe.
Quote from: Zedd on March 25, 2007, 12:54:05 PMAnd I am sure somehow there will be more of that matrixing the snake moments when this story progresses. Yup-yup
What? Seriously, those ``sentences'' do not parse. Any chance you can be a little clearer in the future?
...and for those interested, you might be able to make a ``do not parse'' image macro out of this.
What, sort of like this:
(http://llearch.net/misc/parse.jpg)
?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 25, 2007, 01:32:33 PM(http://llearch.net/misc/parse.jpg)
Been years since I saw that. You get a cookie.
Alright sorry for the confuzement then. What I ment with chipper mood. I ment with he mostly be proud or mostly be upset however its up to Amber what he does. Nuff said
Quote from: superluser on March 25, 2007, 02:10:17 PM
Been years since I saw that. You get a cookie.
Well, it was that, or a monopoly logo, with "Do Not Parse Go"...
Quote from: Zedd on March 25, 2007, 02:22:51 PMI ment with he mostly be proud or mostly be upset however its up to Amber what he does.
Er... this doesn't help--now I need three sentences explained for me. Did you mean `will' instead of `with'? Then I can figure out what you mean, with a bit of effort.
I don't mean to get into the business of correcting grammar, but you usually make more sense than this.
You think so? I never have.
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on March 24, 2007, 09:04:18 PM
*random speculative remarks*
What if Cid's an 'adventurer' in the sense that he's an 'adventurer-HUNTER'?
I further speculate that not only is Cid an Incubus, he helped lead the previously-drawn assault. Never mind why he didn't stop Kri'a from taking out Abel . . . Call it under the guise of the test, or maybe that he knew Kri'a wouldn't be able to 'finish the job' anyway, so it was safe to have her approach Abel.
*shuffles out*
ooh.. I like that idea.. haha
Quote from: Jigsaw Forte on March 24, 2007, 09:04:18 PMI further speculate that not only is Cid an Incubus, he helped lead the previously-drawn assault. Never mind why he didn't stop Kri'a from taking out Abel . . . Call it under the guise of the test, or maybe that he knew Kri'a wouldn't be able to 'finish the job' anyway, so it was safe to have her approach Abel.
Unlikely. Cid knew Kria, and Kria knows that Abel is Cid's son. The conversation would have gone very differently had it been Cid. For example, ``I had tea with his mom'' would not be what you would say to the husband of that mom.
Unless, of course, Cid was in disguise.