There appears to be a little history between Aniz and Destania. Given the increase in time to the next kid and the other clues, the possibility of Edward being Aniz seems to have gone up.
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Hey, isn't anybody going to yell at me for bringing up "Edward may be Aniz" again
Dan is now right age
This could be reference to relationship between Destania and Edward. It also explains how he knew her name (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_298.php)
Have you considered the possibility that Destania felt that she must destroy Edward because she did see through his disguise and knew he was Aniz?
Perhaps Destania was required to kill Aniz but was prevented from doing so while they were both at SAIA. Edward might have liked Destania and felt that this would be a very awkward situation. Destania might have worked at training Abel because she felt thankful to Edward for not forcing the awkward situation.
All comments made with the understanding that Amber is the final arbiter and her decisions are final, just, wise, and not subject to appeal. Although I do find the story line appealing.
Please remember:
If it swims like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it does not mean that it is a duck. However, it being a duck is a reasonable hypothesis worthy of consideration and evaluation.
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Wow, he must really hate Dee..
So much so that he would rather wait 375 years before he can bring another kid in then spend 50 years at SAIA when shes there..
I was thinking that he can't face Dee because of shame.
maybe he was a poor student in Dee's class and fears she might pick on him :U
Quote from: Naldru on May 26, 2008, 12:18:42 AMHey, isn't anybody going to yell at me for bringing up "Edward may be Aniz" again
woudn't Destania be a clever enough cubi to see right through another cubi's disguise?
Short and sweet
AAANDD the plot thickens!
Now it makes me wonder if Abel's dislike for Dee could be the same reasons why Aniz dosen't like her?
I really like Fa'lina's expression in the third panel. Its as if she knows by that point what Aniz's answer would be.
If Aniz can't stand to stay because Destania's there, there must be some strong conflict between them, whether real or perceived.
Aniz=Edward? I still say no. Though I haven't yet seen any confirmation or denial regarding cubi being able to sire non-cubi. If they can't, then Aniz isn't Alexsi's father, so up to around her birth, Edward isn't Aniz (though he could be after that).
As or Abel's dislike of Destania, where did you get that? I don't recall anything hinting that part.
If we only knew what is going on between Destania and Aniz!... Either way, I am all but sure that Edward is Aniz (in disguise) now. And yes, I think Aniz "replaced" Edward with himself after Alexi's birth.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 26, 2008, 02:08:25 AM
If we only knew what is going on between Destania and Aniz!...
Don't worry. I'm sure Amber will spill that sooner or later.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 26, 2008, 02:08:25 AM
Either way, I am all but sure that Edward is Aniz (in disguise) now. And yes, I think Aniz "replaced" Edward with himself after Alexi's birth.
You watch too much TV.
As the Captain Obvious just said there in a post before the last one, there might be something between Aniz and Destania. I put my money on "ex lover" -option. COME ON! Daddy needs new suit!!
thews is so much more here then is this? and is that? but is' also more simple then people are willing to let it be. and lets not forget Alexsi as she ands more uncernity to the equation.
I'm in the view that the Cyra clan is in part responsible for the cubi genocide, based on several references from:
*hidden page* (links dragon and cubi destiny)
Destinia (as opposed to Cyra Clan) being sought after by dragons.
Offspring of Destinia (as opposed to Dan Ti'Fonia) being sought after by dragons. (conclusion: Cyra clan is also similarly sparse, and Destinia the only surviving clan member, clan leader may or may not be surviving)
Destinia seeking death of dragons. (related to links between cubi and dragon: given that the links are formed long ago...)
Aniz apparent dislike of Destinia. (if Cyra Clan is involved with his clan's near-annihiliation...)
I doubt Aniz is Edward, given that of all people, Fa'Lina should realize that from visiting the tavern and background research. (unless she is implying that Aniz is fast and cowardly in http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_489.php ) And that Destinia refers to Edwards as Edwards in http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_726.php which I find unlikely if she did know that Edwards is Aniz.
On a curiosity, what would happen if a clan founder dies?
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 26, 2008, 04:04:42 AM
I'm in the view that the Cyra clan is in part responsible for the cubi genocide, based on several references from:
*hidden page* (links dragon and cubi destiny)
The first rule of hidden page is you do not talk about hidden page. :mowtongue
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Destinia (as opposed to Cyra Clan) being sought after by dragons.
Offspring of Destinia (as opposed to Dan Ti'Fonia) being sought after by dragons. (conclusion: Cyra clan is also similarly sparse, and Destinia the only surviving clan member, clan leader may or may not be surviving)
Cyra is alive and well in the present day, and her clan is supposedly one of the most powerful.
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Destinia seeking death of dragons. (related to links between cubi and dragon: given that the links are formed long ago...)
I'm pretty sure that the bad blood between Cubi and Dragons extends beyond Destania's little operation. Just look at Abel's first impression of Pyroduck.
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On a curiosity, what would happen if a clan founder dies?
The clan goes on, but its members lose the special abilities that came from their founder pouring their energy into the clan (like tentacles heads). Only a small handful of clans contain living founders.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 26, 2008, 02:02:37 AM
As for Abel's dislike of Destania, where did you get that? I don't recall anything hinting that part.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_811.php
Can't they all, just get along? :B :B
Alright. I'll bring up my theory about Ed is Aniz in a bit. First I have to get through this.
AS2 no.13: Aniz talks about how Abel looks. "The wings. The eyes. They're perfect."
AS2 no.15: Aniz mentions "His plan" and Fa mentions "the last one" she shut down.
Here's my theory: Aniz is trying to recreate his clan (Hence the importance of Abel's look). Fa'Lina is worried about irresponsible breeding producing hordes of teen Cubi, not raised responsibly, getting dumped on SAIA, (or just having too many in the world in general causing trouble). Aniz might have struck a note with the Clan comment. So Fa compromises and says it's ok to do what you're doing as long as the kids are raised properly.
Theory 2: Fa is just making Aniz stick around so he'll bond with his son, realize he's not some tool or prop, and maybe Abel comes out with a real dad and a better life. And flowers and kittens and rainbows.
Anyway... As for Aniz/Ed, maybe Dest picked Ed for his similar looks to Aniz. Maybe going for a similar Clan look (As Aniz was doing), maybe she got sentimental, but maybe Ed just *looks* like Aniz.
[EDIT] If there's one thing that impresses me about this comic compared to everything so far, it's how little there is on this page. A minute of silence, a pause, a tense moment is such a powerful tool in story telling that often gets little regard in favor of constant action and dialogue. Dedicating an entire page to what could be done in a panel and a half is brave. Bravo, Amber.
Excuse me while my head blows up.
Repeatedly.
Just because I played with the theories doesn't mean I actually expected it. :U
(Honestly, this wouldn't have surprised me so much if it weren't for the tie-in of Destania.)
Well there's a mention of a Cubi Vs Dragon war or a big war at least from what little Abel mentioned a ways back, though Fa'Lina directly mentions "The killzone that makes up Destina's family" which seems to drag at least part of the Cyra Clan having something to do with the Cubi war OR she's referring to the future potential of the wiping out the Dragons Dee and Biggs mentioned. That said, given the Dragons are clearly after Dee, it seems like something happened prior to start this line of thinking. Cyra's clearly alive as Dan has the Dragony heads (ironic) wing trademark and a wallpaper war commented if she or Neni would show up first. Look forward to that one happening.
Abel also at least seems to be aware of the Ti'Fiona name on top of this weeks page so clearly SOMETHING happened in that direction that meant Aniz/his clan was somehow involved or an unintentined victim of said something. Fa'lina's clan also got dragged into it via whatever reason yet doesn't appear as grudge bound, whether she is or not is another matter.
Personally I'd love to hear more about the war, that snippet got me really interested. I've a history freak.
Quote from: Jack McSlay on May 26, 2008, 12:51:32 AMwoudn't Destania be a clever enough cubi to see right through another cubi's disguise?
Yes, but it might take a few minutes to do, especially given that Dee was in a particularly sorry state when she met Edward.
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him
because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
It certainly explains the 'laws' if it was a clan-specific law, given that 'Cubi are sparsely distributed and in some cases ignorant of their own lore. Though it does re-open the question of how he talked her down, which the Edward-Aniz theory solved if she thought he was a Being.
A counterpoint to that notion is Abel himself. Would she have invested her time in teaching him to survive alone, would she have 'a vested interest' (713) in his wellbeing if they were mortal clan enemies held together only by Fa'Lina's will? One possibility is that she actually wanted to use him to take Aniz down, but frankly that's a silly idea.
QuoteMod Edit: Please do not revert the changes I made to your thread subject. :V
I hesitate to say this, because it's none of my business, but... Hanlon's razor? If you were both editing it and and he finished last, your edit would surely get squashed, mod or no and he'd have no idea.
I'm actually interested in the fact that Aniz was willing to see reason, and that Destina was only the kicker. I mean, really, 50 vs. 375, and he was willing. Then again, given Abel's description of her, Aniz might thing she's more evil then he is.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 26, 2008, 02:02:37 AM
If Aniz can't stand to stay because Destania's there, there must be some strong conflict between them, whether real or perceived.
I... don't know about this. I got the impression Aniz had already decided to leave, and his question about Dee was a different matter. And I don't go with the "they hate each other" idea: there's something almost hopeful in Aniz's question. Enough to make him change his mind, depending on the answer? Apparently not.
Fa'lina's expression and body language... there's a whole conversation going on here that we don't know anything about. Yet. I'm looking forward to finding out.
Quote from: Deebs' servant on May 26, 2008, 04:46:47 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 26, 2008, 02:02:37 AM
As for Abel's dislike of Destania, where did you get that? I don't recall anything hinting that part.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_811.php
Alright, I was forgetting that one.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 26, 2008, 04:04:42 AM
On a curiosity, what would happen if a clan founder dies?
He/she is dead. :B
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
Well, for starters you're the only person who really knows what makes her tick psychologically >:3. The rest of us have already had several very conflicting reports of what she's like, from Abel, Aary and Alexsi which has given us a very confused idea of what she is capable of.
Also, if she's spent most of her 7000 years inside the academy, confined to a relatively narrow field, she might not be too hot when it comes to actual, real combat. With that in mind, she might not need to fake injury, especially given that a single crossbow bolt in the right place is liable to kill her, 7000 or not.
Ultimately, we do only know what Alexsi related, so a feint is quite possible.
Edward and Aniz aren't the same person. Alexsi is Edwards daughter from another woman remember. Des and Aniz might have dated or something in the past and it didn't end well. Also I think Falina has a thing for Aniz too. That may just be me.
Quote from: Daimien on May 26, 2008, 01:59:48 PM
Edward and Aniz aren't the same person.
If you can absolutely disprove that, I and a bunch of other people would be very interested to hear your reasoning >:3
QuoteAlexsi is Edwards daughter from another woman remember. Des and Aniz might have dated or something in the past and it didn't end well. Also I think Falina has a thing for Aniz too. That may just be me.
I'm not sure what the significance of your first statement there is, but I rather doubt Dee and Aniz had much going at SAIA, given that she would have been his teacher. Even if that's not considered taboo, he'd have had a lot of competition. AFAIK she's been at SAIA for the last seven millennia. I can't comment on the Fa'lina-Aniz thing.
Also, isn't there a possibility that Cubi-Being fraternisation generates a Being, rather than a Cubi? It's not 100% Cubi, I mean. In which case, it's possible that Aniz == Edward, and Aniz + Alexsi's mother came up with Alexsi, who isn't Cubi.
That's all from memory and supposition, though, so I could well be wrong.
Didn't fluffy say something about Cubi get with Beings make a Cubi cause there is almost no chance of the child being born a Being. If there is a chance it would be very small, seeing as Beings aren't very strong. Cubi mate with Beings to get a Cubi child. I don't know why people are so set on Edward being Aniz. Maybe Edward was the one that killed Aniz or something.
Quote from: Daimien on May 26, 2008, 02:50:46 PM
Didn't fluffy say something about Cubi get with Beings make a Cubi cause there is almost no chance of the child being born a Being.
She said that only seemed to happen if the 'Cubi was the more powerful of the two parents. She did not say that that result would always be a 'Cubi, and indeed when discussing Megan, her exact words were "She'd probably look something like this if she became a 'Cubi." - note the qualifier at the end.
QuoteIf there is a chance it would be very small, seeing as Beings aren't very strong. Cubi mate with Beings to get a Cubi child.
Yes, but that doesn't mean they will end up with one. I'd put my money on a 3/4 chance, which seems to be the norm with genetics. It has been suggested that Devin was a failed attempt and that his father left when the child didn't have wings.
QuoteI don't know why people are so set on Edward being Aniz. Maybe Edward was the one that killed Aniz or something.
Maybe. I like the idea of Aniz having grown into a better person, which is my stake in the theory, I think.
Y'know, I'm not really sure if anyone has suggested this before, but I'll throw this out anyway. What if Aniz only attempted to kill him and assume Edward Ti'Fiona's identity, and had failed for whatever reason? Particularly, if Edward managed to defeat, and kill Aniz?
I'm probably going to hold onto that theory. The three hundred seventy five-year distance is still curious.
I'll just speculate about Destania for now, since everyone else on the forum has the Aniz = Edward niche occupied. :B
~Keaton the Black Jackal
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
Well, for starters you're the only person who really knows what makes her tick psychologically >:3. The rest of us have already had several very conflicting reports of what she's like, from Abel, Aary and Alexsi which has given us a very confused idea of what she is capable of.
Also, if she's spent most of her 7000 years inside the academy, confined to a relatively narrow field, she might not be too hot when it comes to actual, real combat. With that in mind, she might not need to fake injury, especially given that a single crossbow bolt in the right place is liable to kill her, 7000 or not.
Ultimately, we do only know what Alexsi related, so a feint is quite possible.
Hmm... that's another thing that's been bugging me for a while. Destania is obviously not a weak fighter. (Consider Abel's and Alexsi's respect for her combat abilities.) 7000 years is probably
way past the point where crossbow bolts without some serious magical buffs will be any threat.
Everyone seems to be assuming (probably because of the torches and pitchfork crowd at the inn) that it was Adventurers of some kind who jumped Destania after she left SAIA. I can't find any official, Amber-supported references to that effect. Given her power level, I really don't see that happening. She's almost as old as Fa'Lina.
It makes a
lot more sense for her assailants to have been slightly larger, and of the prone to fire-breathing persuasion. Either that, or completely imaginary. >:]
Quote from: Tezkat on May 26, 2008, 03:29:07 PM
Hmm... that's another thing that's been bugging me for a while. Destania is obviously not a weak fighter. (Consider Abel's and Alexsi's respect for her combat abilities.) 7000 years is probably way past the point where crossbow bolts without some serious magical buffs will be any threat.
This is just guesswork, but I was under the impression that you basically had to become tri-wing in order to reach a state where you can't die by normal means.
QuoteEveryone seems to be assuming (probably because of the torches and pitchfork crowd at the inn) that it was Adventurers of some kind who jumped Destania after she left SAIA. I can't find any official, Amber-supported references to that effect. Given her power level, I really don't see that happening. She's almost as old as Fa'Lina.
But I rather doubt she's as powerful as Fa'Lina is. I'm not sure it really matters who it was that attacked her initially. If she (really) was sufficiently weakened, a bunch of adventurers could finish the job, regardless of who started it.
QuoteIt makes a lot more sense for her assailants to have been slightly larger, and of the prone to fire-breathing persuasion. Either that, or completely imaginary. >:]
Assuming an actual foe, that's a pretty sensible theory.
Quote from: Ren Gaulen on May 26, 2008, 02:08:25 AM
If we only knew what is going on between Destania and Aniz!... Either way, I am all but sure that Edward is Aniz (in disguise) now. And yes, I think Aniz "replaced" Edward with himself after Alexi's birth.
There may not be any replacing going on here at all, Edward, if he really is Aniz, could have been Aniz all this time. Still in the baby making business, and the time would have been about right if Alexei was intended to be his next child to bring to the Academy.
1) Alexei's mother is not Destina, it was someone else (unnamed?). Cubi + beings roll the cosmic die when determining if their offspring are going to be cubi. Alexei simply rolled Not Cubi. Another case of Devin if Aniz is his father, too. Maybe something happened to him during the three centuries that made him decide to stay with Alexei, instead of abandoning her.
2) Something happens to Alexei's mom (was it ever explained how she died?) Edwards/Aniz meets up with Destinia, being chased by the lynching mob. He saves her life, protecting her from the crowd. And you know the rest of the story. That makes me think of a couple of things:
a) Destinia didn't know if Dan would be cubi or not -- she assumed that he would have a shot at the cosmic dice too. Unless I'm mistaken, the dice are rolled only when Cubi + non-Cubi are involved, right? So that means Destinia wouldn't know that Edwards is cubi, if it really is Aniz in another disguise.
b) If that is true, then there may be a lot of hell coming up if there is animosity between Aniz and Destina, and she learns the truth.
Just some thoughts. Doesn't mean anything until we learn more about Edwards.
I simply don't see how it's possible that Destania wouldn't figure out Edward was Aniz unless she never ever read his mind and never really looked at him carefully (seeing as how there'd be.. ahem... certains times in their relationship when she'd be able to see his clan marking).
Cubi can't hide from each other very well.
speculating is for spectators... if you want to be involved you gotta force the prediction into reality.
For instance, I say ANIZ is in fact Merlitz from the future.
I have no evidence to back this up...and absolutely no proof whatsoever,and I can't ever be proven wrong, unless Amber reveals the truth, which would mean that I've forced her into doing so, which in turn usualy reveals more information than speculation alone. thus giving us a clearer view of what is to come.
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
Very interesting.
My first thought is that cubi aren't really known for modesty, which pretending to be weaker than she was would amount to.
My next thought is that I can think of a reason for Destania to pretend weakness: to learn Aniz's true feelings towards her. Would he risk his life to defend her? (He did.) Would he be willing to die rather than fight her? (He was.)
I don't know if you have ever read As You Like It by William Shakespeare. In it, two women escape to the forest to avoid political plots and disguise themselves as men for protection. While in the forest, they meet their would be suitors. There are two ways of putting on this play.
The women have fooled the men.
The men have fooled the women into believing that the women have fooled the men.
How is this connected to DMFA? Perhaps everybody is just fooling around.
Amber is great. Amber is wise. Amber is excellent at messing with our heads.
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
2 reasons: reference link: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_298.php
a) Would Aniz forget Destinia so easily? (unless that is a disguize.)
b) Why would Destinia give a warning, assuming that isn't Aniz?
And 1 more for good measure: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
No bracer far as I can tell there.
If a hundred people ganged up on a single monster, would that really be a fair fight? Considering the possibilities, even if the monster only had more years of experience, and was physically more powerful than ten individuals, it really wouldn't be an entirely fair fight.
You know what, for the hell of it, I'm gonna throw my own crazy speculation out there.
Destania leaves SAIA at the behest of Fa'Lina to bring back Aniz, while she was seeking him out, she did something that got the attention of local adventurers, leading up to her's and Edward's meeting. Wangbangbam, Dan is born and Destania gives up her assignment and life at SAIA. Aniz, who comes back to SAIA of his own accord some years later, finds out that Destania had been sent out to find him, he leaves to find her, and finds out she's been wed to a Being. Out of some form of jealously or another, he teams up the Dragons to kidnap Edward in an attempt to get to Destania, leading up to current events.
Hmm, perhaps I was wrong. It's not that Fa'Lina is in love with Aniz, Aniz and Destiana can't stand each other, and Fa'Lina is wanting to try and patch things up between them! The pieces begin to fall together, Amber, wonderful work!
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 26, 2008, 10:30:41 PM
And 1 more for good measure: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
No bracer far as I can tell there.
We also can't see the wrist where the mark would be if he is Aniz.
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
yep, fuel for plot twists, those are.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 27, 2008, 04:09:54 AM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 26, 2008, 10:30:41 PM
And 1 more for good measure: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
No bracer far as I can tell there.
We also can't see the wrist where the mark would be if he is Aniz.
We can't, but he is in a tavern. Other's would've noticed. (though he could claim it's a tattoo...) More importantly, Destinia would've noticed. More, more importantly, if that was Aniz, he'd know any cubi would've noticed.
Though I think there's a more important question anyway, what was Destinia's assignment?
And for some reason, I still have doubts that Dan is of the Cyra clan despite any evidence otherwise, or more precisely, because of the lack of evidence proving such.
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 27, 2008, 05:31:20 AM
We can't, but he is in a tavern. Other's would've noticed. (though he could claim it's a tattoo...)
Quite. May thought Abel's mark was a tattoo.
QuoteMore importantly, Destinia would've noticed. More, more importantly, if that was Aniz, he'd know any cubi would've noticed.
Point.
QuoteAnd for some reason, I still have doubts that Dan is of the Cyra clan despite any evidence otherwise, or more precisely, because of the lack of evidence proving such.
It's in his bio and he's got the Cyra Clan heads. Though I grant there's an interesting discrepancy between Dee's wing-heads and her son's.
Now for a theory even I don't really believe - we've never found out what Aniz' clan is called. What if their founder was called Ti'Fiona?
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 27, 2008, 06:03:00 AM
Now for a theory even I don't really believe - we've never found out what Aniz' clan is called. What if their founder was called Ti'Fiona?
Or worse! What if the clan founder was named D'Lyon!! D:
*Charline* :mwaha
Fat chance. :P
even though I'm having trouble keeping up with the theories one that comes to mind is destania meets edward at the pub seemingly injured now she could have been faking but what was her reason if it was aniz then maybe she came to kill him and that would give more of an understanding of how they feel about each other and how their laws work but maybe she needed something from him but if edward is just edward maybe she's just rebuilding the clan similar but not exactly like aniz is. with another thought who's to say if edward and aniz did meet that aniz did kill him and not the other way around aniz may be more powerful but but edward might have still had a chance and that might explain the reaction she had towards him in another way that she saw edward as a threat at first because she senced that he killed aniz or she came to avenge or to dispose of a potential threat to her or the cubi race i just love this storyand it kees you guessing no matter how many times you get something wrong :P
Quote from: joshofspam on May 27, 2008, 01:52:52 PM
even though I'm having trouble keeping up with the theories one that comes to mind is destania meets edward at the pub seemingly injured now she could have been faking but what was her reason if it was aniz then maybe she came to kill him and that would give more of an understanding of how they feel about each other and how their laws work but maybe she needed something from him but if edward is just edward maybe she's just rebuilding the clan similar but not exactly like aniz is. with another thought who's to say if edward and aniz did meet that aniz did kill him and not the other way around aniz may be more powerful but but edward might have still had a chance and that might explain the reaction she had towards him in another way that she saw edward as a threat at first because she senced that he killed aniz or she came to avenge or to dispose of a potential threat to her or the cubi race i just love this storyand it kees you guessing no matter how many times you get something wrong :P
Josh, let me introduce you to something you don't appear to have met before.
It's called a "full stop", or a "period", depending on where in the world you are. It's used to designate the end of sentences. Just like that. It's also used to indicate where you paused for thought. You did pause for thought, didn't you, Josh? Doing otherwise would be spamming, and that's frowned upon.
Another thing you might not have met is called a "comma"; that's used to indicate a where you paused for breath.
A final thing, for this lesson, is called the "enter key" - liberal use of this will break your posts up into strange, obscure things called "paragraphs".
Liberal use of these will ensure people actually read your posts, which may increase the likelihood of people paying attention to what you've said. Otherwise they'll just ignore you, and nobody likes that.
A word from the wise...
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 26, 2008, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
2 reasons: reference link: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_298.php
a) Would Aniz forget Destinia so easily? (unless that is a disguize.)
b) Why would Destinia give a warning, assuming that isn't Aniz?
And 1 more for good measure: http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
No bracer far as I can tell there.
It's a flashback told from Alexi's POV, so can't be taken as gospel.
Quote from: Amber Williams on May 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
On the other hand, the idea that she knew immediately despite her injuries and exhaustion and had to destroy him because he was Aniz and they had some kind of clan squabble is rather an interesting one.
What amazes me is that despite all the speculation peeps have thrown out, no one has ever made the assumption that when Destania came in all "weak and injured", that she was faking it...
She kinda screamed 'faking it' when she started glowing blue and produced head wings and stuff... Which is kinda why I doubt Aniz=Edward.
I should really pay more attention to the forums... And not lose my password. Again. ^^;
Noticing the date on this, is this Abel update taking the place of the main story's update (because it's late), or is the main strip also pushing back a day (seeing that 907 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php) was out on friday and it's already late tuesday and it's still up as "current")?
If Amber just needs a slight break to stabilize the update schedule, that's ok. I was just wondering.
Been reading some theories here, lately. Thought I'd throw out some stuff.
Abel -does- have a connection with Edward. http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_527.php This hasn't been brought up, why?
Personally, I liked the Edward-killed-Aniz threory. :B
The connection was mentioned already (by me, I just misremembered at the time who brought it up to Abel), just no details yet on what that connection between Abel and Edward is. Regardless of all the theories bouncing about, I still say Edward isn't Aniz. As was theorized at least once, Edward may have eliminated Aniz.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 27, 2008, 07:46:06 PM
Noticing the date on this, is this Abel update taking the place of the main story's update (because it's late), or is the main strip also pushing back a day (seeing that 907 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_907.php) was out on friday and it's already late tuesday and it's still up as "current")?
If Amber just needs a slight break to stabilize the update schedule, that's ok. I was just wondering.
let her take as much time as she needs/ wants. she works so hard when she's here that she's entitles to take vacations
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
and indeed when discussing Megan, her exact words were
Who's Megan?
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 27, 2008, 06:03:00 AM
Quote from: Psaakyrn on May 27, 2008, 05:31:20 AM
And for some reason, I still have doubts that Dan is of the Cyra clan despite any evidence otherwise, or more precisely, because of the lack of evidence proving such.
It's in his bio and he's got the Cyra Clan heads. Though I grant there's an interesting discrepancy between Dee's wing-heads and her son's.
The shape and size of the Tentacle heads could just be an individual thing.. I tend to believe just having them.. is granted by the Clan Founder...
Megan is the theoretical offspring of Dan and Matilda, I believe.
Quote from: Aurawyn on May 28, 2008, 01:37:53 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
and indeed when discussing Megan, her exact words were
Who's Megan?
http://missmab.com/Demo/HG02.php
In the last panel. That's Megan. There was some discussion at the time the Hybrid Genetics strip was posted as to what to call her, and Our Glorious Artist chipped in with something like "I call her Megan." to stifle the wanton speculation.
I believe she also suggested that Megan won't ever appear in the strip, which I consider to be a shame, but it's not my story to tell (and thank goodness for that - Amber does a far better job than I would.)
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 28, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
I believe she also suggested that Megan won't ever appear in the strip, which I consider to be a shame, but it's not my story to tell (and thank goodness for that - Amber does a far better job than I would.)
It would foul things up somewhat if she did appear, because Dan is liable to disappear off to SAIA for a few centuries. Granted, she would likely follow in a couple of decades but it would make things even more awkward than they are now.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 28, 2008, 10:18:14 AM
It would foul things up somewhat if she did appear, because Dan is liable to disappear off to SAIA for a few centuries. Granted, she would likely follow in a couple of decades but it would make things even more awkward than they are now.
Yeah. Being better than your Dad at everything you do? Awwwkward!
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on May 27, 2008, 01:58:26 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on May 27, 2008, 01:52:52 PM
even though I'm having trouble keeping up with the theories one that comes to mind is destania meets edward at the pub seemingly injured now she could have been faking but what was her reason if it was aniz then maybe she came to kill him and that would give more of an understanding of how they feel about each other and how their laws work but maybe she needed something from him but if edward is just edward maybe she's just rebuilding the clan similar but not exactly like aniz is. with another thought who's to say if edward and aniz did meet that aniz did kill him and not the other way around aniz may be more powerful but but edward might have still had a chance and that might explain the reaction she had towards him in another way that she saw edward as a threat at first because she senced that he killed aniz or she came to avenge or to dispose of a potential threat to her or the cubi race i just love this storyand it kees you guessing no matter how many times you get something wrong :P
Josh, let me introduce you to something you don't appear to have met before.
It's called a "full stop", or a "period", depending on where in the world you are. It's used to designate the end of sentences. Just like that. It's also used to indicate where you paused for thought. You did pause for thought, didn't you, Josh? Doing otherwise would be spamming, and that's frowned upon.
Another thing you might not have met is called a "comma"; that's used to indicate a where you paused for breath.
A final thing, for this lesson, is called the "enter key" - liberal use of this will break your posts up into strange, obscure things called "paragraphs".
Liberal use of these will ensure people actually read your posts, which may increase the likelihood of people paying attention to what you've said. Otherwise they'll just ignore you, and nobody likes that.
A word from the wise...
He has a point, I gave up after the first line XD
In the flashbacks, which might not be accurate, you can see Edward's right forearm. There isn't any clan marking, which can't be hidden.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
Quote from: Firelancer on June 08, 2008, 01:57:21 AM
In the flashbacks, which might not be accurate, you can see Edward's right forearm. There isn't any clan marking, which can't be hidden.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
You can see the top. You can't see the underside, on the inside, where the mark actually is.
It's arguable, obviously, but that's my take on it. Besides, it's history. Amber has the right to do a retcon if she so wishes. Who are you to argue with her? ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on June 08, 2008, 06:54:26 AM
Quote from: Firelancer on June 08, 2008, 01:57:21 AM
In the flashbacks, which might not be accurate, you can see Edward's right forearm. There isn't any clan marking, which can't be hidden.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
You can see the top. You can't see the underside, on the inside, where the mark actually is.
It's arguable, obviously, but that's my take on it. Besides, it's history. Amber has the right to do a retcon if she so wishes. Who are you to argue with her? ;-]
Besides, his thumb's in the way. >:3
*Shrugs* It was just a thought, from what I have read I haven't seen where Amber's said either way. :3 I tend to spend far more time reading than speculating, I just thought that might a point.
I just realized that Abel's 399. Would this be for or against the "Aniz=Edwards"? On the one hand, Falina probably wouldn't know depending on how long Destania's been gone ("This
looks to be the place" (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_481.php) could imply she never visited Dee or met Edward). On the other, Abel hasn't had his 400th birthday yet so if Fa'lina (with her semi-omnipotence) did know, that might be why she let Dan leave without much of a fight, he isn't technically supposed to be there.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 26, 2008, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: Tezkat on May 26, 2008, 03:29:07 PM
Hmm... that's another thing that's been bugging me for a while. Destania is obviously not a weak fighter. (Consider Abel's and Alexsi's respect for her combat abilities.) 7000 years is probably way past the point where crossbow bolts without some serious magical buffs will be any threat.
This is just guesswork, but I was under the impression that you basically had to become tri-wing in order to reach a state where you can't die by normal means.
We don't know she isn't. It would explain why she didn't even bother trying to hide her headwings or wings when she got to the inn. Abel's been hiding BOTH his wings ever since getting to Lost Lake and he doesn't have triwings, so someone powerful enough to have all 3 might not see the point of hiding their heritage even if they hide the third set. It probably wouldn't be wise to advertise that you're that powerful, even if you're willing to advertise you're a cubi.
Quote from: Firelancer on June 08, 2008, 01:57:21 AM
In the flashbacks, which might not be accurate, you can see Edward's right forearm. There isn't any clan marking, which can't be hidden.
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_297.php
Left, left forearm. Aniz's clan marking is on his left forearm; and Edward has his left forearm in an obscured view, or off panel in every shot he is in. The only clear shot of his left forearm is in #298 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_298.php), and it is covered by a bracer.
Quote from: Firelancer on June 08, 2008, 09:31:45 AM
*Shrugs* It was just a thought, from what I have read I haven't seen where Amber's said either way. :3 I tend to spend far more time reading than speculating, I just thought that might a point.
Sorry, didn't mean to come across as slapping you down, there. Just had a few too many speculations in recent history that have gone beyond the pale. :-/
I tend to forget my smileys. Won't happen again. *grin* Much.
On the "Alexsi was a failed attempt" thing: Dan seems to look more like her than either parent (same basic body fur color, whereas Edward's is darker and Dee's, well... blue) I'd comment on the tails, too, since Dee's isn't the same lion-ish setup (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_713.php), but we've never seen Edward's tail (Aniz's, however (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_95.php)) . I say this is proof that they share the same dad, whether it's Aniz or not.
Also, how long is the cubi gestation period? Dan is 2 years younger than Alexsi, and she mentioned her dad got married about 2 years after her mom died (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_306.php). If Cubi have the human 9 month gestation period, that would suggest Alexsi's mom died during or very soon after birth. Was this ever proven?
I just read this again (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_299.php). It implies that Destania dropped her name but it doesn't say what name she used after that. Might it be Dee as Biggs sometimes calls her (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_724.php), or something else?
Hmmmm, Falina should have just said that well you can no longer admit a child until you have raised and trained one as a cubi yourself. With the limitations if Aniz was smart he would find ways to have kids and have them trained that doesn't need the Cubi academy.
Quote from: Tsunari on June 17, 2008, 01:20:06 AM
Hmmmm, Falina should have just said that well you can no longer admit a child until you have raised and trained one as a cubi yourself. With the limitations if Aniz was smart he would find ways to have kids and have them trained that doesn't need the Cubi academy.
The Cubi academy is better because cubi that graduate it are much more successful. I doubt Aniz would produce the best cubi, either. I can't image Fa'lina would want a bunch of Aniz-trained monsters running about.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on June 10, 2008, 06:08:41 PM
I just read this again (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_299.php). It implies that Destania dropped her name but it doesn't say what name she used after that. Might it be Dee as Biggs sometimes calls her (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_724.php), or something else?
It's whatever Amber decides it to be. The comic in question only answered the "life ended at the hands of Daniel Ti'Fiona" part of the story, not what she did or didn't do about her name.