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Title: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jairus on March 29, 2009, 03:36:45 AM
Wow, neat. I did not know Lorenda knew healing magic. But Kria seems quite knowledgeable on healing spells, appropriate for a former magical teacher. And we have confirmation that Dan has a pierced lung, and I'm guessing that since Kria referred to his aim getting worse he was trying to go for Dan's heart. Also, Kria again knows how to make me laugh. Nice response by Lorenda, BTW.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Titanium Dragon on March 29, 2009, 03:43:04 AM
I greatly enjoyed the pants thing. Obviously Lorenda cannot trust her mother around Dan. Not that we didn't know that already, of course. Conversely, Kria is probably teasing Lorenda, as she sees Lorenda snarling as a good thing - probably seeking that sort of response. It is Kria after all.

Dan hasn't given the pair of them away yet, and while it will be funny when that happens, I suspect it won't happen until after he's fully healed, and possibly longer, just so we can see Jyrras be tortured even more, as well as to bring up something awkward in a hundred strips when we've semi-forgotten the incident and Dan messes it up.

Incidentally, while I'm sure the big comics take a lot longer, they look great. So don't think your work is going to waste, o artist - we do appreciate that extra effort. At least, I do.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Teh_Hobo on March 29, 2009, 03:59:41 AM
Yikes. Thats some RAGE in panel 3. Methinks Kria may try to annoy Lorenda more often now, in an attempt to "bring out the best" in her. Also, Kria's lighthearted tone seems to suggest to me that she should have few problems healing Dan, so thats good.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: tiggertoo on March 29, 2009, 04:10:44 AM
Nice to see some of what Lorenda can do -- totally makes sense that she has magical knowledge and ability - Kria taught magic after all. Still, I was a bit surprised by it for a moment (d'ur!).

Ah yes, these mother-daughter bonding moments, sigh.... The most amusing thing is that Kria is most likely being totally serious about "they bring out the best in you dear" -- she likes to see the fierce side of her daughter.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jairus on March 29, 2009, 04:24:58 AM
Quote from: tiggertoo on March 29, 2009, 04:10:44 AMAh yes, these mother-daughter bonding moments, sigh.... The most amusing thing is that Kria is most likely being totally serious about "they bring out the best in you dear" -- she likes to see the fierce side of her daughter.
Well, after all, Kria was very worried after Lorenda fell in with the wrong sort of crowd (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_341.php). Kria just wants her daughter to be the best... demon. Might not be what Lorenda wants, but since when has that ever stopped parents from being overbearing?

Also, I really do like that even here, Kria is still being a teacher. It shows a nice side to her. She's still a psycho demon, but it's a nice side nonetheless.

EDIT: And yes, the full-page comics look fantastic (said in the Christopher Eccleston voice).
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Hellcat on March 29, 2009, 04:38:14 AM
Woo hoo Lorenda! Finally some demon showing in ya!
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: TheDeere on March 29, 2009, 05:00:57 AM
The past few have been AWESOME! Thanks, Amber! :)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: icarus on March 29, 2009, 05:05:08 AM
those are some healthy teeth! demons must get a racial benefit at the dentists or something.

if the lung was punctured by a claw and not a broken rib, then what dan's really got would be a sucking chest wound. and for those of us who like learning first aid for every situation, the internet is here to help! (http://www.brooksidepress.org/Products/OperationalMedicine/DATA/operationalmed/Procedures/TreataSuckingChestWound.htm) (WARNING! this link contains some blood and diagrams of wounds. not too graphic but if you're squeamish...)

incidently, a sucking chest wound is also what killed buffalo bill in silence of the lambs. clarice shoots him in the lung :B
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 29, 2009, 05:34:51 AM
oh, cool! Thanks, icarus!

... and thanks, Amber. I got a good belly laugh out of today's strip. ;-]
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Madmann135 on March 29, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
So That's how he is going to keep his pants on?  Lorenda Strip guarded Dan from Kria.

The momentary terror in Kria only proves two things, Lorenda does have her moments where she surprises everyone even her mom and Lorenda has a great dental plan.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: icarus on March 29, 2009, 07:35:44 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 29, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
So That's how he is going to keep his pants on?  Lorenda Strip guarded Dan from Kira.

pssst...it's kria dude, not kira.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Lisky on March 29, 2009, 07:43:01 AM
Kria with her devious grin in panel 2 is hilarious...

and if you look at panels 3 and 4, her moment of shock is just that, the briefest of moments... she goes right back to a similar grin almost immediately.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: jeffh4 on March 29, 2009, 07:44:20 AM
It occurs to me that Kria and Dan have one thing in common.  If you want to reduce them down to one single motivation, they both have a "one (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_001.php) track (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_391.php) mind (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_961.php)." 

Maybe they are perfect for each other!   :)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: inuhanyo on March 29, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
Well, it looks like Dan will be healed by the time Fi and Devin show up again, which is going to make it easy to keep Abel ignorant of how badly Dan was injured.  Or even that he was injured.

Considering the shape Dan's in, I have to wonder how much of the conversations he's been tracking.

All in all, not one of Dan's better days.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on March 29, 2009, 08:48:16 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 29, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
Well, it looks like Dan will be healed by the time Fi and Devin show up again, which is going to make it easy to keep Abel ignorant of how badly Dan was injured.  Or even that he was injured.

If Kria does it, perhaps.  But there's going to be a s___load of blood everywhere and even if they stop Dan from dying he's going to be weak as a kitten for the next few days (and that's assuming Kria is very, very good at healing).  Devin may have to be the one who washes what's left of Dan's blood-soaked clothes.  Unless they give him one of DP's robes.

Actually, is Devin the same size?
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on March 29, 2009, 09:51:19 AM
Doubt it. I mean look at how big DP is.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on March 29, 2009, 10:09:02 AM
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on March 29, 2009, 09:51:19 AM
Doubt it. I mean look at how big DP is.
Indeed.  But it would look nice and ridiculous.  As I say, Devin is a closer match.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Lucheek on March 29, 2009, 10:15:54 AM
Even though Kria is a demon, these mother/daughter bonding moments are so sweet.... awww...
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 29, 2009, 10:26:57 AM
With Demons (and mst creatures for that matter) inherently magical, it would actually be ome surprise that Lorenda had no magical abilities whatsoever. I'm also thinking that she might not be trained in healing per se, but is just trying whatever sort of magical resources she has available, on the princple of "He's dying anyway......"
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Seth C Triggs on March 29, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
I'm just sad Dan got his butt kicked...again. :<

But this update is quite hilarious, nevertheless. Kria: No tact, whatsoever. Heh...

-Seth
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: icarus on March 29, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 29, 2009, 10:26:57 AMI'm also thinking that she might not be trained in healing per se, but is just trying whatever sort of magical resources she has available, on the princple of "He's dying anyway......"

well, she did fall in with those hippie na'er do wells (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_341.php) back in the day. could have focused on learning healing magic then, as a rebellious teenaged act of ...er...rebellion.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jack McSlay on March 29, 2009, 11:32:42 AM
maybe Aliph's aim hasn't gotten worst and he was trying to give Dan a slower, more painful death? A heart wound of that magnitude kills in seconds, while a lung wound takes several minutes
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 29, 2009, 11:36:35 AM
DP seems too pragmatic to go for the slow, painful death when the quick, certain one is available. I'm tempted to believe he just missed, or the angle was wrong for any other sort of hit.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Kenway975 on March 29, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
It could be that the angle was off, but my personal theory is that DP's aim as diminished some. In order to stay accurate, even professional marksmen constantly train. DP has been dead for some time now. IF the dead's spirits/souls are aware of the passing of time even between being killed and then resurrected, then DP would have had enough time to have had certain abilities be dulled. But this theory only works if the dead is aware of time passing. If not then it might be caused by side effects of being resurrected,be they temporary or not.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Draken on March 29, 2009, 12:16:47 PM
Possibly the evilest look I have seen on Lorenda's face since her listening in on Bernadette's conversation.

Lucky Dan.....even half dead, the ladies want him   :mwaha

So.....what will happen next?  Will Lorenda admit to the farce?  Or will Kria beat her to the punch?  Will it happen at all, or at the most awkward time?  Stay tuned to the next Dan And Mab Z!


Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: inuhanyo on March 29, 2009, 12:23:03 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 29, 2009, 08:48:16 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 29, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
Well, it looks like Dan will be healed by the time Fi and Devin show up again, which is going to make it easy to keep Abel ignorant of how badly Dan was injured.  Or even that he was injured.

If Kria does it, perhaps.  But there's going to be a s___load of blood everywhere and even if they stop Dan from dying he's going to be weak as a kitten for the next few days (and that's assuming Kria is very, very good at healing).  Devin may have to be the one who washes what's left of Dan's blood-soaked clothes.  Unless they give him one of DP's robes.

It may only be the censor panda, but Dan (and DP, for that matter) haven't bled all that much.  Considering that Dan has a sucking chest wound, and DP has been cut to the bone in three places.

Quote from: Kenway975 on March 29, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
It could be that the angle was off, but my personal theory is that DP's aim as diminished some. In order to stay accurate, even professional marksmen constantly train. DP has been dead for some time now. IF the dead's spirits/souls are aware of the passing of time even between being killed and then resurrected, then DP would have had enough time to have had certain abilities be dulled. But this theory only works if the dead is aware of time passing. If not then it might be caused by side effects of being resurrected,be they temporary or not.

Training is as much to condition the body as anything else, it would make sense that DP's aim would be a little off after just being resurrected.  And a surfeit of adrenalin can mess up your accuracy too.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jairus on March 29, 2009, 12:29:31 PM
Maybe that's what's being affected whenever DP comes back from the dead: his aim! His soul is just fine, it's just that every time he comes back Kria notices that his aim gets a little worse. She just says "soul" because when he was a boy, DP was a crack sharpshooter, and shooting was his life.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on March 29, 2009, 12:31:14 PM
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 29, 2009, 12:23:03 PM
It may only be the censor panda, but Dan (and DP, for that matter) haven't bled all that much.  Considering that Dan has a sucking chest wound, and DP has been cut to the bone in three places.

Lorenda's first second line is that he's lost a lot of blood, so I'm putting it down to the censorship panda.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Draken on March 29, 2009, 12:45:26 PM
Seeing as it is the Censor Panda......what exactly does she DO with all that extra blood now?
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: tiggertoo on March 29, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Draken on March 29, 2009, 12:45:26 PM
Seeing as it is the Censor Panda......what exactly does she DO with all that extra blood now?

Make blood pudding obviously -- she can have her Dan and eat him too.  :mwaha
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: thegayhare on March 29, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: tiggertoo on March 29, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Draken on March 29, 2009, 12:45:26 PM
Seeing as it is the Censor Panda......what exactly does she DO with all that extra blood now?

Make blood pudding obviously -- she can have her Dan and eat him too.  :mwaha

By that logic the cute little Gee must be some horrible bloodthirsty vampire since she would abscond with all the blood...  she could have spawned Pai Gon since she's a younger vampire she'd need less blood.  While Fa Teen, Remba, and Lady X are mortal voyeurs
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Ted Schiller on March 29, 2009, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: Seth C Triggs on March 29, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
(snip) Kria: No tact, whatsoever. Heh...(snip)
But damage to the femoral artery is very serious. There is no time for sugar coating the fact that they must not overlook any potentially serious injury.
:shifty
I'm sure that's what Kria meant.  

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Buhamet on March 29, 2009, 05:08:36 PM
If DP's aim has got worse, I shudder to think what he could have done to Dan in earlier fights if he'd pulled a stunt like that one
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: e_voyager on March 29, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
they way i see it neither Dan nor Kria want to upset Lorenda for their own reason but it makes me feel sorry for the Dan / Matilda shippers.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Draken on March 29, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Well, that's Shippers for ya.  (In general the shipping idea is one of futility;  the end result is Always determined by the author, even if he/she is influenced by the popular vote a little  :P)

As for DP's aim, maybe he still did what he did on purpose?  Who knows, he might just have one hell of a Xanatos Gambit up his sleeve (though at this point it might be a Xanatos Roulette....)





(any ideas if there be a podcast tonight?)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jairus on March 29, 2009, 06:12:10 PM
Quote from: Draken on March 29, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Well, that's Shippers for ya.  (In general the shipping idea is one of futility;  the end result is Always determined by the author, even if he/she is influenced by the popular vote a little  :P)

As for DP's aim, maybe he still did what he did on purpose?  Who knows, he might just have one hell of a Xanatos Gambit up his sleeve (though at this point it might be a Xanatos Roulette....)
Hm... I dunno. I doubt that DP could be up to creating a full-blown Gambit right after being resurrected, and even if he has this as a left-over from before he got killed, he doesn't strike me as the type. The best he's done before in the gambit/manipulation department (or at least the best that we've seen) is counting on Dan to bring one of his Fae friends to be sacrificed. I think DP was honestly trying to kill Dan.

As for shipping... is Dan even aware of what Lorenda said to save his life?

Quote from: Draken on March 29, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
(any ideas if there be a podcast tonight?)
Yup (http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,5849.0.html).
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Titanium Dragon on March 29, 2009, 06:46:12 PM
Quotewell, she did fall in with those hippie na'er do wells back in the day. could have focused on learning healing magic then, as a rebellious teenaged act of ...er...rebellion.

There's nothing "good" about healing. People often associate the two for modern reasons, but there's no particular reason the two go together, and evil is oftentimes depicted as supernaturally resistant. Kria seems to know healing magic, so it seems likely that's where Lorenda got it from.

QuoteIt may only be the censor panda, but Dan (and DP, for that matter) haven't bled all that much.  Considering that Dan has a sucking chest wound, and DP has been cut to the bone in three places.

Uh, we can see blood flowing down over Dan's chest in little rivulets. Given he's got fur, that's a lot of blood, and DP is clutching his wrist, which again has a stream of blood running down his hand AND over the hand clutching his wound, presumably to help stifle the bleeding.

People have an exaggerated idea of just how bloody things are, though I'm sure the panda has something to do with it as well (or at least, with not showing a sucking chest wound too much). Also, we've only gotten one view of Dan's chest, and that was right after he was impaled.

QuoteIf DP's aim has got worse, I shudder to think what he could have done to Dan in earlier fights if he'd pulled a stunt like that one

Well, in the first fight he blasted Dan through a wall. Otherwise, Dan has (likely) been armed, which makes it a much more difficult proposition to just slam into his chest and crush his ribs and puncture his lungs.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: GabrielsThoughts on March 29, 2009, 08:14:01 PM
I like the snarl.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on March 29, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
You should see my snarl. Much scarier.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Alondro on March 29, 2009, 08:44:41 PM
I know why DP didn't hit Dan in the heart. 

Cuz if he did, Dan's Hollow form would've taken over and he'd have been like 10x more powerful in an instant and killed everybody! 

Cuz that's what happens when you hit a hero in the heart, they get uber-powers.   :3
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Naldru on March 29, 2009, 09:36:44 PM
Dan and Lorenda have spent some time together as shown in the following strips.  And from her reaction to Kria's comments about the pants, she apparently does have feelings for Dan.  And Dan is also concerned about Lorenda getting hurt.  Perhaps the idea of Dan and Lorenda being boyfriend and girlfriend isn't so far-fetched.

Lorenda and Dan meeting (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_101.php)

Lorenda and Dan having hamburgers together (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_167.php)

Dan reading poetry to Lorenda (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_267.php)   

Lorenda helping Dan get some supplies (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_273.php)

Lorenda and Dan drinking together (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_851.php)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: inuhanyo on March 29, 2009, 11:15:43 PM
 :)  Dan and Lorenda are friends.  Dan's whole career is about protecting others,  in addition to the fact that Dan sees himself as the hero and is naturally protective of friends and family to boot.

Lorenda did not seem to have a lot of friends before Jyrras helped her out by offering her a place to stay.  Since then, she has naturally met Jyrras' friends and some of them, like Dan, have become her friends too.   If she hasn't had many friends in the past, naturally she especially values the ones she has.  And Dan is Jyrras' best friend, so she reason to protect him for Jyrras' sake.

Matilda now, she's made it clear that she is interested in Dan, but she is in no hurry, they both have centuries for a relationship to develop.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Ted Schiller on March 30, 2009, 01:06:18 AM
Quote from: e_voyager on March 29, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
they way i see it neither Dan nor Kria want to upset Lorenda for their own reason but it makes me feel sorry for the Dan / Matilda shippers.
The Dan/Matilda shippers will start a harem comedy.  They always ship by UPS.  :)

With regards,
Ted
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Madmann135 on March 30, 2009, 02:14:58 AM
Quote from: Alondro on March 29, 2009, 08:44:41 PM
I know why DP didn't hit Dan in the heart. 

Cuz if he did, Dan's Hollow form would've taken over and he'd have been like 10x more powerful in an instant and killed everybody! 

Cuz that's what happens when you hit a hero in the heart, they get uber-powers.   :3

That's why it is always best to aim for the head.

Another thing with hero types is that if you beat them down they have a tendency to come back stronger and smarter than before.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: LionHeart on March 30, 2009, 03:58:45 AM
Quote from: Draken on March 29, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Well, that's Shippers for ya.  (In general the shipping idea is one of futility;  the end result is Always determined by the author, even if he/she is influenced by the popular vote a little  :P)
Generally speaking, shippers take little or no notice of the author's wishes in any case. They just want to see their favourite characters gettin' it on, regardless of what the author might have to say about it. (Or even of the characters' orientation...)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: icarus on March 30, 2009, 05:22:30 AM
Quote from: Naldru on March 29, 2009, 09:36:44 PM
And from her reaction to Kria's comments about the pants, she apparently does have feelings for Dan.

i think it's more a matter that most people don't want their moms looking lustfully at their friends' naughtybits.

it's just a little TOO weird, even for furrae.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tycoon on March 30, 2009, 06:31:56 AM
Quote from: Ted Schiller on March 30, 2009, 01:06:18 AM
Quote from: e_voyager on March 29, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
they way i see it neither Dan nor Kria want to upset Lorenda for their own reason but it makes me feel sorry for the Dan / Matilda shippers.
The Dan/Matilda shippers will start a harem comedy.  They always ship by UPS.  :)

With regards,
Ted

All that means is that the Dan/Photophie shippers get more mainstream appeal...
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: AmigaDragon on March 31, 2009, 05:23:59 PM
Where did this "...shippers" terminology come from? I never heard of it (in this context) until this thread. The only "shippers" I ever heard of before were freight or package transporters.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Pagan on March 31, 2009, 05:44:03 PM
Oh. Them allow me to enlighten you. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping) Oh, and sorry for ruining your life. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: AmigaDragon on March 31, 2009, 08:07:44 PM
After the first few times, I usually don't click tvtropes links any more.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: tiggertoo on March 31, 2009, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: Pagan on March 31, 2009, 05:44:03 PM
Oh. Them allow me to enlighten you. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping) Oh, and sorry for ruining your life. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife)

TVTropes is *evil* -- go there and you may never be seen again.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: e_voyager on April 01, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
Quote from: Tycoon on March 30, 2009, 06:31:56 AM
All that means is that the Dan/Photophie shippers get more mainstream appeal...

thats a new group to me.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tycoon on April 02, 2009, 05:24:08 PM
Quote from: e_voyager on April 01, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
thats a new group to me.

Me too.

But they must exist. This IS the internet, after all.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Arroyo Milori on April 02, 2009, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: thegayhare on March 29, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: tiggertoo on March 29, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Draken on March 29, 2009, 12:45:26 PM
Seeing as it is the Censor Panda......what exactly does she DO with all that extra blood now?

Make blood pudding obviously -- she can have her Dan and eat him too.  :mwaha

By that logic the cute little Gee must be some horrible bloodthirsty vampire since she would abscond with all the blood...  she could have spawned Pai Gon since she's a younger vampire she'd need less blood.  While Fa Teen, Remba, and Lady X are mortal voyeurs
I would perfer the "The blood is cranberry juice and Dan isn't harmed at all" logic but eh.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Garsemor on April 04, 2009, 03:37:38 PM
I was just wondering. Wouldn't it be possible for Kria to bring Dan back to life the same way she reincarnated DP in case Dan would... you now... not mack it.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on April 04, 2009, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: Garsemor on April 04, 2009, 03:37:38 PM
I was just wondering. Wouldn't it be possible for Kria to bring Dan back to life the same way she reincarnated DP in case Dan would... you now... not mack it.

I had considered that.  DP seems to have taken soul damage by being resurrected, but in most cases I'd imagine the resurrection was a period of several days/weeks after his death.  If Dan dies for half an hour or so, he might not have the same problem.
Having said that, the difficult bit right now will be getting it so that he doesn't just drop dead again afterwards.

Given Kria's flippant attitude in 988 I would say that she isn't too worried, i.e. she's confident that they'll be able to sort him out.

EDIT:
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Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 04, 2009, 03:58:55 PM
Hard to say, since we don't really know what is involved with a ressurection beyond the need for an intact body. For all we know, you can only work it on a family member or maybe DP's tie to the undead make him the only ressurectable person around. On the other hand, maybe any idiot (not just Kria) with sufficient magical power can revive the dead.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: joshofspam on April 04, 2009, 07:57:34 PM
Nasty. But I wonder what they will do with all that blood?

I mean can magic filter it and place so they can place it back in Dan's body or will they save it for some magic ritual for later?

Well realistically, I guess it would make more sense to have Devin come set the food down and start cleaning while while making comments about Regina's failure to deliver the drinks properly. :P

The big question if Devin meets Dan probably is will Dan make a comment on how this undead reminds him of a certain Cubi he knows?  :shifty

Hope you get better Amber. :)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jairus on April 04, 2009, 10:44:22 PM
Quote from: joshofspam on April 04, 2009, 07:57:34 PM
The big question if Devin meets Dan probably is will Dan make a comment on how this undead reminds him of a certain Cubi he knows?  :shifty
"What, did you and Abel go to the same school or something?"
"Who's Abel?"

There is always that problem, but then again, Kria could pop up with "Abel? Abel Rewanz?"
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: !KCA on April 05, 2009, 12:27:40 AM
Quote from: Jairus on April 04, 2009, 10:44:22 PM
There is always that problem, but then again, Kria could pop up with "Abel? Abel Rewanz?"

"Abel" is an uncommon name, but hardly unique. Also, Kria is a few hundred years old and quite possibly well-traveled. She may have met one or two Abels in the interim. (Although, how many were cubi? Hmm. . .)
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Jairus on April 05, 2009, 12:29:37 AM
Quote from: !KCA on April 05, 2009, 12:27:40 AM
Quote from: Jairus on April 04, 2009, 10:44:22 PM
There is always that problem, but then again, Kria could pop up with "Abel? Abel Rewanz?"

The name is uncommon, but hardly unique. Also, Kria is a few hundred years old and quite possibly well-traveled.
"Abel? Abel Nightroad?"
"Who's Abel Nightroad?"
"Oh, so not him then."
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Buhamet on April 05, 2009, 04:35:27 AM
While that is a good point, I personally can't see a reason as to why Dan in his injured state would mention Abel........

then again, Amber has a great way of making stuff like that happen
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Kenway975 on April 05, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
There is the possibility of Fi mentioning Abel. Also, if it's Fi who mentions Abel then there would be a higher probability of last name confirmation. The other possibility is that they Kria sees Abel if/when she drops Dan off at Lost Lake.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on April 05, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Kenway975 on April 05, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
There is the possibility of Fi mentioning Abel. Also, if it's Fi who mentions Abel then there would be a higher probability of last name confirmation. The other possibility is that they Kria sees Abel if/when she drops Dan off at Lost Lake.

Fi was instructed to fetch Abel if Dan did anything dangerous.  Even Fi must realise that the sight of Dan dying on the floor means all is not well.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: AmigaDragon on April 05, 2009, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on April 04, 2009, 03:58:55 PMOn the other hand, maybe any idiot (not just Kria) with sufficient magical power can revive the dead.

I think this is the case, since it was Regina, not Kria in the room when Aliph was resurrected. Kria was the one to set it up, but Regina activated it.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: inuhanyo on April 05, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 05, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Kenway975 on April 05, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
There is the possibility of Fi mentioning Abel. Also, if it's Fi who mentions Abel then there would be a higher probability of last name confirmation. The other possibility is that they Kria sees Abel if/when she drops Dan off at Lost Lake.

Fi was instructed to fetch Abel if Dan did anything dangerous.  Even Fi must realise that the sight of Dan dying on the floor means all is not well.

As long as Fi next sees Dan before he's fully healed and cleaned up.   We'll see how it goes once Amber is well enough to resume (take good care of yourself, Amber).
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on April 06, 2009, 04:20:10 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 05, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
As long as Fi next sees Dan before he's fully healed and cleaned up.   We'll see how it goes once Amber is well enough to resume (take good care of yourself, Amber).

I'd be somewhat surprised if he can go from punctured lung to looking and feeling like he did before he entered the house by that time, but I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: inuhanyo on April 06, 2009, 11:01:25 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on April 06, 2009, 04:20:10 AM
Quote from: inuhanyo on April 05, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
As long as Fi next sees Dan before he's fully healed and cleaned up.   We'll see how it goes once Amber is well enough to resume (take good care of yourself, Amber).

I'd be somewhat surprised if he can go from punctured lung to looking and feeling like he did before he entered the house by that time, but I guess we'll see.

Well, back at SAIA, RJ patched up Able (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_596.php), including putting half a wing back on, just before Able left with Dan.  So I don't exclude the possibility.  Fi might wonder if Dan is tired and hungry, but he wouldn't pop off to Able in alarm over that.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Kenway975 on April 07, 2009, 12:32:54 AM
True. But another thing to consider is body part hit/damaged. The two aspects of it is the severity of injury and the standard healing process: you should not use the healing body part a) so it does not get worse and b) to allow it to heal properly. Yes Abel's half of a wing was reattached, but it's only an extremity. Last time I checked (not to sound too gory or anything) if you can stop the bleeding fast enough, getting the lower half of an arm blown off usually has a faster recovery time than impaling your lung with a sharp object. While yes you will have to deal with all of the side effects of loosing the lower half of an arm and potential therapy soon after, you will be up and moving around much sooner (in theory, I could be wrong). Also, a) it does not look like Abel uses his wings for much of anything and b) I don't think we have seen Abel's wings after the part at the SAIA infirmary. So while we know his wing is reattached, we are not too sure what condition they are in. Also just the complexity of the body part. For most wings, they are very simple. All you have to do it reattach the bone, fuse the skin back together, and reconnect allof the tendons and ligaments. Lungs (as far as I can tell) are much more complex, and are theoretically much harder to heal... even with magic.

At any rate I just hope that Kria and Lorenda are able to get most of the loose blood out of Dan's lung.

*Edit: found evidence disproving one of my statements
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on April 07, 2009, 04:06:52 AM
Another possibility is that they might be able to bypass Dan's need to breathe temporarily.  Abel can hold his breath for hours and some 'Cubi don't need to breathe at all - there might be a way to confer this ability onto Dan until he is healed.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on April 07, 2009, 06:06:16 AM
Wings have a lot of muscle - and hence blood flow. Losing a wing is probably more akin to losing a leg than an arm; risk of death from blood loss is significant, IMHO.

Of course, Cubi have less to worry about there, but even so...
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on April 16, 2009, 05:02:24 PM
Since they can shapeshift, can't they just use that ability to heal or regrow a injured body part? Or is there a limit to what they can do with that ability?
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tapewolf on April 16, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: JackTheCubiFerret on April 16, 2009, 05:02:24 PM
Since they can shapeshift, can't they just use that ability to heal or regrow a injured body part? Or is there a limit to what they can do with that ability?

They naturally have that ability.  However it probably takes a long time to happen (months/years?), and obviously it won't work if you die first.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Tiger_T on April 17, 2009, 03:25:50 PM
I'd say the shapeshifting is more cosmetic than functional.
i.e.: You could shapeshift a big wound closed, but not neccessarily heal the wound itself in an instant.

The wings/tentacles... I'm not sure. They seem to be limbs - so, mostly muscles, some arteries (,maybe flexible bones of some sort?), but no organs.
Those would be in the torso.
Title: Re: 03/29/09 [DMFA #988] - Hidden injuries
Post by: Brownie on April 24, 2009, 06:19:36 AM
Kria keeps trying, doesn't she? I always look to those comics for a good laugh.
Perhaps Lorenda should heed her mother's advice:
"Seriously Sweetie. If you want me to stop, you need to start making uglier friends."