Good, evil or otherwise, she is cute.
Agreed Amiga.
His eyes being blacked out is a nice touch to finish off portraying his mood.
And with all her hair and ears falling forward, The only thing I had to identify her by was her clothing, thank Amber that everyone wears different clothing.
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 04, 2009, 02:05:08 AM
Good, evil or otherwise, she is cute.
Well I don't think this counts as dreaming about cute girls but more of dreaming about killing a cute girl. There is a difference.
Anyone else notice that doesn't have his headwings and he's not using his tentacles? Actually... she's wearing her outfit that we originally saw her in (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php). So, Dan's either dreaming about killing her back then, or flashing back to that battle.
Dangit, I can't wait for the next DMFA update! Also, only two strips left before #1000.
Quote from: Jairus on May 04, 2009, 02:17:39 AM
Anyone else notice that doesn't have his headwings and he's not using his tentacles? Actually... she's wearing her outfit that we originally saw her in (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php). So, Dan's either dreaming about killing her back then, or flashing back to that battle.
Dangit, I can't wait for the next DMFA update! Also, only two strips left before #1000.
I think he's dreaming about just wanting to kill her. Because anyone who gets priced like that has almost no chance of survival. Also dreams are very easy to control and are based on a subconscious level of taught the if someone is angry at someone a related dream resembles what we have seen. It is normal that Dan isn't using his head-wings and isn't using his tentadrils because his subconscious has to get adjusted. Most changes like of this degree will take about a month to get used to and I don't think more than 5 days have passes yet.
Quote from: Garsemor on May 04, 2009, 02:11:46 AM
Quote from: AmigaDragon on May 04, 2009, 02:05:08 AM
Good, evil or otherwise, she is cute.
Well I don't think this counts as dreaming about cute girls but more of dreaming about killing a cute girl. There is a difference.
Dreaming of trying to kill a cute girl.
That's one effective lady killer... though she's to immature to be considered a lady, more like a child, but she is female... BAH!
Dan needs to carry more swords.
This is the first time we have seen Dan in this sort frenzy anger. As far as we know him he was always the forgive and forget tip of guy. He was never this angry, or at least what we have seen. Not when he battled DP, not when he was attacked by Aaryanna, not when Abel said that his mom was an evil monster, he always remained calm, this is the deepest hate-anger combo I have ever seen.
So did Amber make up the comment thinger, or is that ladykiller stuff from somewhere?
Quote from: Titanium Dragon on May 04, 2009, 03:53:06 AM
So did Amber make up the comment thinger, or is that ladykiller stuff from somewhere?
I found similar songs but not that one less it's a) old b) Very well timed and cool random little lyric.
As the old quote says "Let a sleeping cat lie"
Quote from: Garsemor on May 04, 2009, 03:06:13 AM
He was never this angry, or at least what we have seen. Not when he battled DP, not when he was attacked by Aaryanna, not when Abel said that his mom was an evil monster, he always remained calm, this is the deepest hate-anger combo I have ever seen.
Looks like Regina's deeds really screwed him up.
Interesting that he's sleeping, I imagine that 'Cubi do sometimes need to do this when they're badly hurt, though a full adult 'Cubi probably wouldn't dream. And yes, the lack of headwings is rather interesting. It'll be interesting whether he has them or not when they get to see him.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 04, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Interesting that he's sleeping, I imagine that 'Cubi do sometimes need to do this when they're badly hurt, though a full adult 'Cubi probably wouldn't dream. And yes, the lack of headwings is rather interesting. It'll be interesting whether he has them or not when they get to see him.
It could be that Dan simply hasn't had enough time to realize all that it means to be a cubi. No need for sleep, dreaming, etc. As for the headwings, he probably hasn't grown to accept his cubi heritage as a part of his self image.
Dan was complaining about not being able to get to sleep just before his wing tentacles first manifested. This is probably the first dream he's had in some time, and it's of at least fighting Regina, if not killing her. Given what he's wearing, it's probably not a full on flashback, not yet. Of course, I could be mistaken, there could have been a reason he wasn't wearing his robe on that occasion.
Dan is wielding the sword left-handed. Has he trained himself to be combat ambidextrious?
Cute girl indeed. <3 Pity it looks like he's killing her (or at least attempting).
Folks, I think Dan's in the midst of a flashback. Regina's in an older outfit, Dan doesn't have his headwings, and I can't recall where, but I keep remembering that it was Dan who skeletized Regina's wing, after Regina nearly killed Wildy. Maybe my last bits of sanity said see ya and made for the border..
Meh, either way, dreams are not visions, they're memories. You never dream 'new' material, it's just your subconscious going whacko. So I'm convinced that Dan is remembering a previous fight with Regina.
Looking very closely at Regina I notice what looks to be blood. Takes a bit to notice but it's there. Not saying I'm surpised she's bleeding, but considering the pose, I was just expect it to be implied not actully there.
Quote from: Ghostwish on May 04, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
Meh, either way, dreams are not visions, they're memories. You never dream 'new' material, it's just your subconscious going whacko.
Yes, and it doing so it usually comes up with new material. Not precognition, if that's what you meant, but fantasy. And sometimes it is grounded in reality. IIRC the guy who invented the benzene molecule had it come to him in a dream, and I've had various dreams which inspired me to writing, music etc...
QuoteSo I'm convinced that Dan is remembering a previous fight with Regina.
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_615.php
...these sure as heck aren't memories, at least, not in their original form.
Nor is this: http://missmab.com/Demo/Cubi03.php ...though admittedly they're being tampered with slightly.
There is no reason I can see that Dan couldn't be dreaming of a new fight with Regina.
Most vets and solders do have dream flash back to savior or even traumatic battles. So adventures should have similar dreams. As for the sword being in the off hand its is often more comfortable to waled a sword in the off hand then the main. (I'm right handed and use my bayonet, knife or sword in the left hand and a pistole on SMG in the right hand.)
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 04, 2009, 07:39:53 AM
Dan is wielding the sword left-handed. Has he trained himself to be combat ambidextrous?
I remember Amber saying that Dan is ambidextrous. I think it is in the nice archive.
Found it. http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum0543.htm#ref6 (http://nice.llearch.net/dmfa_forum0543.htm#ref6)
In regards to Regina...
"Yes, cute. Like a little button. On a rattlesnake." >:3
Quote from: Arcblade on May 04, 2009, 01:17:24 PM
In regards to Regina...
"Yes, cute. Like a little button. On a rattlesnake." >:3
:giggle
Couldn't have said it better myself. ;)
I really like how this was done in one panel, how the whole scene just kind of bleeds together. It gives a very surreal look to things, totally, 100% appropriate for perhaps wound induced dementia dreams.
Keep it up Amber.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 04, 2009, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: Ghostwish on May 04, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
Meh, either way, dreams are not visions, they're memories. You never dream 'new' material, it's just your subconscious going whacko.
Yes, and it doing so it usually comes up with new material. Not precognition, if that's what you meant, but fantasy. And sometimes it is grounded in reality. IIRC the guy who invented the benzene molecule had it come to him in a dream, and I've had various dreams which inspired me to writing, music etc...
Dreams are complicated. You can actually figure stuff out in your dreams, as your brain is still working, just in an altered state of consciousness. One famous fiddle composition was invented in the composer's sleep - the devil sat at the foot of his bed and played the violin, and his attempted reconstruction of it became known for being an incredibly difficult violin piece. Of course, he said he could never get it as good as it was in his dream, but you know...
I've had dreams about waking up, going to school, sitting through a lecture... then waking up, going to school, and sitting through the lecture which was eerily familiar (though I suspect it wasn't identical, at the time it felt that way). Fortunately I like school :P
Quote from: Brownie on May 04, 2009, 02:11:20 AM
His eyes being blacked out is a nice touch to finish off portraying his mood.
It's a trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HiddenEyes) "This usually symbolizes a person driven by events to a point of unpredictable action."
However, it's also been used to symbolize grief or sadness, so context is important.
*Charline giggles* Dan may be a lady killer, but Regina is a man-eater!
Watch out boy, she'll chew you up!
*Alondro pops in* But she's always a woman to me...
*Charline batters Alondro!* Damn it! It's bad enough I have to kill Charles every other day! >:[
OK, here's my theory and what backs it up.
Regina looks like she does in her first appearance:
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_388.php)
with the one change being Amber changing the wing colors from Red to Purple.
Regina's left wing got turned into bone at some point after her flashback encounter with Dan, and we're looking at Regina in Dan's dream from the left side. We don't see bony wings, so this is not a "current" or future encounter Dan is dreaming about. That's reinforced by Dan's lack of headwings.
You'll also notice that Regina's arms are not covered in blood up to her elbows. The only blood we see is from where Dan's sword is impaling her. I think Dan is dreaming/fantasizing about killing Regina before she starts her rampage.
Let me think about this. We have people applying Freudian psychoanalysis to a fictional character. Somehow, this seems to be going a little too far. Unless Amber has taken a recent course in psychoanalysis or even psychology in general, would we be looking at Dan's perceptions or Amber's perceptions.
Looking at the picture, Dan and Regina appear to be in a hot place surrounded by flames. Although no one has commented on it, it could be suggestive.
The dream about the benzene ring was of a snake holding its tail in its mouth so that it formed a ring.
Quote from: Naldru on May 05, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
Let me think about this. We have people applying Freudian psychoanalysis to a fictional character.
That would seem a bit OTT. I think most people are just trying to work out whether it's a recollection from before, or a generic dream of himself battling Regina.
However I do question Ghost's apparent assertion that dreams can only ever be replays of prior events.
It is said that dreams may also show the future. There is a theory saying that, if the universe is surrounded by a sort of wall formed from space and time, the brain may be able to tap in to the frequency of this barrier, allowing the person to know future events but mostly the brain is said to simply ignore and discard this info.
Oh I can argue against dreams merely being endless repeats based on dozens of personal experiences. Many of my most amazing story ideas came from dreams in which entirely unique scenrios and sceneries were created from sheer imagination.
One fairly recent example that I wish to pursue was a dream in which a meteor shower in which the meteors were large enough to impact the Earth held within it a number of seemingly indestructible metalic masks which held the imprisoned souls of a demonic race. The first person to touch each mask was possessed by the entity and slowly transformed into the entity's original body.
Another example is a dream in which I was driving in a foreign country through landscapes unlike anything I'd ever seen or imagined before, through cities I know don't exist, and topographical and climatic zones that are highly improbable.
And then there are my Anthrocon dreams. They always take place in hotels that are unlike any places I've ever seen. It's very hard to explain them, because the locations are so foreign. They always are realistic, in that the landscape and architecture are quite sound and feasible, but they are in places that I absolutely do not recognize, in towns with staggering levels of details, all of which are unique in each dream.
Quote from: Naldru on May 05, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
Looking at the picture, Dan and Regina appear to be in a hot place surrounded by flames. Although no one has commented on it, it could be suggestive.
It would not be a suprise, if a fire got stated during the original incident.
Worst case, Dan is having a nightmare of fighting Regina forever in hell. But the background doesn't look infernal enough for that, thankfully.
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 06, 2009, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: Naldru on May 05, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
Looking at the picture, Dan and Regina appear to be in a hot place surrounded by flames. Although no one has commented on it, it could be suggestive.
Worst case, Dan is having a nightmare of fighting Regina forever in hell. But the background doesn't look infernal enough for that, thankfully.
That was my assumption. I also think that Dan would feel that any place with Regina in it would be infernal enough.
Dreams are complex they mean one thing, but can represent many others at the same time. Usually the dreamer doesn't remember the dream clearly enough to understand it.
We lose more subconscious ideas and solutions that way. :<
Regina was cute by a simple view, because you see her and your mind fills in the blanks as you want them. However, the more I've learned of her I've cared less and less of her as being cute and instead whiney, snively, and generally not a good villain. Just a demon who has power and flaunts it like a blunt club even though she is just like the average teenage being, just murderous. So far she had made me laugh, laugh at her. That counts as cute in a way? Nah.
Regina is cute but then a gain so are snakes. but she dose have a pampered princess feel to her but i doubt a demon princes will ride in on a fell stead to save her from Danny next time they met.
Quote from: Garsemor on May 06, 2009, 04:34:44 PM
Dreams are complex they mean one thing, but can represent many others at the same time. Usually the dreamer doesn't remember the dream clearly enough to understand it.
We lose more subconscious ideas and solutions that way. :<
That's assuming the dreamer even remembers anything. I for one never remember any part of my dreams
Quote from: inuhanyo on May 04, 2009, 07:39:53 AM
Given what he's wearing, it's probably not a full on flashback, not yet. Of course, I could be mistaken, there could have been a reason he wasn't wearing his robe on that occasion.
Well, if you refer to #876 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_876.php), Dan did not have the robe until after he finished with Adventure's school. And it's been established it's been 6 years since the incident involving Regina... However I am not sure of the locations on a time table the two events occurred, so I'm not sure if it's really a valid reason or not. But if the incident happened before Dan got out of school, it could be one reason why he does not have the robe on... assuming this is a dream based on a flashback.
I'm just assuming that it is just a dream of him killing Regina. If there are any important details in it, I am sure they will become apparent at a later date in a later strip. But that's based on the big assumption that there is anything really important about the details of the dream.
If it was before he finished school, he probably wouldn't have survived the encounter.
You are all clearly mis-understanding the intent of this dream.
From the imagery, the color tones and the character's respective stances.
ISN'T IT OBVIOUS?!
Regina is OBVIOUSLY Dan's Mother!
IT IS THE ONLY WAY IT MAKES SENSE :U
Quote from: Drathorin on May 07, 2009, 07:16:02 AM
You are all clearly mis-understanding the intent of this dream.
From the imagery, the color tones and the character's respective stances.
ISN'T IT OBVIOUS?!
Regina is OBVIOUSLY Dan's Mother!
IT IS THE ONLY WAY IT MAKES SENSE :U
But the lyrics go like this:
But the sword that cut him open
Was the sword in his mother's hand...
GASP!!
Dan is Regina's mother! :mowninja
And given that Aniz is probably Dan's real father, That means! Oh GODS! Aniz has built an even more powerful clan! He not only has his 'Cubi clan built, but he's branched into Demons!
Then Aniz was the zombies. :U
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 07, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
And given that Aniz is probably Dan's real father, That means! Oh GODS! Aniz has built an even more powerful clan! He not only has his 'Cubi clan built, but he's branched into Demons!
Then Aniz was the zombies. :U
We've never seen Dan. He was killed and replaced by a tri-winged incubus who assumed his identity.
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 07, 2009, 10:08:50 AM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on May 07, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
And given that Aniz is probably Dan's real father, That means! Oh GODS! Aniz has built an even more powerful clan! He not only has his 'Cubi clan built, but he's branched into Demons!
Then Aniz was the zombies. :U
We've never seen Dan. He was killed and replaced by a tri-winged incubus who assumed his identity.
Bwahaha, no no
Ya see
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It's all Pyroduck :E everything, and everyone, is Pyroduck
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
Quote from: Naldru on May 05, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
Let me think about this. We have people applying Freudian psychoanalysis to a fictional character.
That would seem a bit OTT. I think most people are just trying to work out whether it's a recollection from before, or a generic dream of himself battling Regina.
However I do question Ghost's apparent assertion that dreams can only ever be replays of prior events.
Hear, hear. I once had a dream that I was going to be hit by a car while crossing the rotary on my way to work. I woke up, was walking to work, was about to step into the rotary when I stopped as the dream just kinda popped into my head. Before I could even blink, a dink sped by, yakking on his cell phone.
If I had not had the dream, and then remembered the dream, it would have happened. :mowdizzy
Edit: Where did I get -8 rep from? o.O Though Charline would disagree, I am a loveable arachnivulpe-taur!
I wouldn't worry about the -8. :P
Mr -553... you wouldn't care about your reputation... i'm more concerned with, how did i manage to get +17... i mean seriously... where did that come from?
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on May 07, 2009, 12:17:41 PM
Mr -553... you wouldn't care about your reputation... i'm more concerned with, how did i manage to get +17... i mean seriously... where did that come from?
My goal is to catch up to llearch and Darkmoon someday. I hope to someday be as awesome as them. :3 At this time though, I've still got a long way to go.
Isn't it obvious what happened Bas?
It's all because of the Theorizers :o
It's like scientology, only with comics :3
Quote from: Akisohida on May 07, 2009, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on May 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
Quote from: Naldru on May 05, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
Let me think about this. We have people applying Freudian psychoanalysis to a fictional character.
That would seem a bit OTT. I think most people are just trying to work out whether it's a recollection from before, or a generic dream of himself battling Regina.
However I do question Ghost's apparent assertion that dreams can only ever be replays of prior events.
Hear, hear. I once had a dream that I was going to be hit by a car while crossing the rotary on my way to work. I woke up, was walking to work, was about to step into the rotary when I stopped as the dream just kinda popped into my head. Before I could even blink, a dink sped by, yakking on his cell phone.
If I had not had the dream, and then remembered the dream, it would have happened. :mowdizzy
Edit: Where did I get -8 rep from? o.O Though Charline would disagree, I am a loveable arachnivulpe-taur!
As I said before dreams can, on rare occasions, permit a person to witness future events. You have just given a good example of such a rare phenomena.
Quote from: Foxfire on May 06, 2009, 08:00:03 PM
Regina was cute by a simple view, because you see her and your mind fills in the blanks as you want them. However, the more I've learned of her I've cared less and less of her as being cute and instead whiney, snively, and generally not a good villain. Just a demon who has power and flaunts it like a blunt club even though she is just like the average teenage being, just murderous. So far she had made me laugh, laugh at her. That counts as cute in a way? Nah.
I'm pretty sure most Demons, and some Fay/Fey/however it's spelled do that. You know, Albanion.
It's spelled Fae. And he did get a restraining order on their entire race.
I thought it was a restraining order.
He, that's what I meant to put.
EDIT: I fixed it.