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Title: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: OminousShadow on July 23, 2009, 11:52:44 PM
Enough Said.

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Fixed punctuation, as requested  -TW
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Chaos on July 24, 2009, 12:02:09 AM
Nope. I'm saying more.

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Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 12:09:15 AM
Heeheeheehee. "Everything I have done is gay." Perfect response, but a second opinion would be a good thing. But really, I don't think that Jy is "fooling himself," considering all of the anguish and grief he's gone through over this dilemma and the fact that Abel just made Jy confront his own feelings for Dan, and that led to Jy's Abelcrush.

By the way, I have to say this. People mispronouncing my name as "Jyrras" is one thing. But people misspelling Jyrras' name to make it closer to Jairus... that makes me giggle a little.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on July 24, 2009, 12:19:04 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-AHAHAHA! HURRK, can...breath...laughing...too...hard. *colapses* :giggle
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Zina on July 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
I'm pretty sure the internet is 100% correct.

I mean.

Why would it lie?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Kenway975 on July 24, 2009, 12:31:47 AM
"Everything I have done is gay"... A decent majority of DMFA could be qualified as gay. But please note the first two definitions of the word gay from dictionary.com
1.    having or showing a merry, lively mood
2.    bright or showy

Thing can be so much fun if you use a different definition of the same word sometimes.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Corgatha Taldorthar on July 24, 2009, 12:37:18 AM
Yes, the internet, repository of all sorts of baseless accusations of "gayness".


Next will come the "Male enhancement" ads associated with reading the Comic.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Baal Hadad on July 24, 2009, 12:54:49 AM
Wait, what?!   :erk

How could she have looked at EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET (that applies to DMFA) so quickly?  Surely there's not THAT little of it out there...?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: OminousShadow on July 24, 2009, 12:57:08 AM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on July 24, 2009, 12:54:49 AM
Wait, what?!   :erk

How could she have looked at EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET (that applies to DMFA) so quickly?  Surely there's not THAT little of it out there...?

If you've been using the internet enough throughout your life, it doesn't take long to see everything. Though you may want to stay away from some things as they are better left unseen. You all know what it is so I won't say it by name.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Baal Hadad on July 24, 2009, 01:32:46 AM
Quote from: OminousShadow on July 24, 2009, 12:57:08 AM
Quote from: Baal Hadad on July 24, 2009, 12:54:49 AM
Wait, what?!   :erk

How could she have looked at EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET (that applies to DMFA) so quickly?  Surely there's not THAT little of it out there...?

If you've been using the internet enough throughout your life, it doesn't take long to see everything. Though you may want to stay away from some things as they are better left unseen. You all know what it is so I won't say it by name.

I....

Okay, I guess you'd know better than I do....  For my part I tend to stick to sites I'm familiar with and not "branch out" a whole lot unless I need to, but I really thought it would take longer than that....
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Naldru on July 24, 2009, 01:41:58 AM
Claiming that homosexual behavior is everywhere is nothing new.  Frank Wertham made that comment about Batman and Robin in the 1950's, not to mention his discussion about Wonder Woman.

May I also suggest that while Amber is catching up on other things, she should also catch up on sleep and rest.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: icarus on July 24, 2009, 01:46:06 AM
see this internet? it's made of gay.
dmfa? also made of gay
EVEN THIS POST
IS MADE OF GAY

</obscure reference>
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
What? Abel, gay? That's preposterous!  >(
...
It's common knowledge that he's bi.

Side note since we're talking about the intarwebz... has anyone had the guts to invoke Rule 34 on DMFA yet..?  :erk
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 01:57:44 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
What? Abel, gay? That's preposterous!  >(
...
It's common knowledge that he's bi.

Side note since we're talking about the intarwebz... has anyone had the guts to invoke Rule 34 on DMFA yet..?  :erk
Yes. Many times. You don't have to worry about DMFA missing out on the Rule 34 action.

And Abel isn't just Bi, he's actually BiBel. I regret nothing!
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Kenji on July 24, 2009, 02:00:38 AM
I see Amber is finally coming to her senses.  :I
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 02:18:51 AM
QuoteYes. Many times. You don't have to worry about DMFA missing out on the Rule 34 action.

And Abel isn't just Bi, he's actually BiBel. I regret nothing!

Pics or it didn't happen.  :B
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Magic on July 24, 2009, 02:24:13 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 02:18:51 AM
Pics or it didn't happen.  :B

Not on this forum, (un)fortunately.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Nobody on July 24, 2009, 02:32:46 AM
To be fair, that read might be refering to the Comixpedia entry for DMFA which refers to Abel as such:

QuoteAbel
Abel is a gay, feline incubus more than 400 years old. Unlike Dan, he is one of the top students at SAIA. Abel uses cool, prickly attitude and distancing mechanisms to maintain a solitary life. Abel has been banned from the SAIA library due to the "Library Incident." (Much like the "Noodle Incident" of Calvin and Hobbes fame, it has never been described yet it has been referenced on occasion.) He has also been hell for the resident advisers, who have to find him new, untraumatized roommates as often as once a semester. Abel feels most 'cubi are terribly cruel, especially his former teacher, Destania. His backstory is being developed in a two-part mini-arc called "Abel's Story" on the DMFA site.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Netrogo on July 24, 2009, 02:43:29 AM
Quote from: Zina on July 24, 2009, 12:29:41 AM
I'm pretty sure the internet is 100% correct.

I mean.

Why would it lie?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Netrogo/flowchart.jpg)

I rest my case.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: LionHeart on July 24, 2009, 02:52:56 AM
Quote from: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 01:57:44 AMYou don't have to worry about DMFA missing out on the Rule 34 action.
Nothing can miss out on Rule 34 action. Rule 34 itself says that.

QuoteAnd Abel isn't just Bi, he's actually BiBel. I regret nothing!
If he heard that, he might Belt you for it...
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 03:13:46 AM
Quote from: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 01:57:44 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
What? Abel, gay? That's preposterous!  >(
...
It's common knowledge that he's bi.

Side note since we're talking about the intarwebz... has anyone had the guts to invoke Rule 34 on DMFA yet..?  :erk
Yes. Many times. You don't have to worry about DMFA missing out on the Rule 34 action.

And Abel isn't just Bi, he's actually BiBel. I regret nothing!

Actually, judging from all available concrete evidence (i.e. interest he's shown in either gender) I'd have to conclude that he's very possibly just a very advanced genus of protozoan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoeba). 

At the very least, it would explain the ever-moving spots.  :3
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Tapewolf on July 24, 2009, 03:15:30 AM
Quote from: Netrogo on July 24, 2009, 02:43:29 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Netrogo/flowchart.jpg)
I rest my case.

What does it mean if you put it on the internet, but it isn't on the internet in the second iteration of the loop?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: RobbieThe1st on July 24, 2009, 03:19:27 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 24, 2009, 03:15:30 AM
What does it mean if you put it on the internet, but it isn't on the internet in the second iteration of the loop?
Wikipedia's editors found it.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 03:31:07 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 03:13:46 AM
At the very least, it would explain the ever-moving spots.  :3
Oh, that's easy to explain: he's screwing with people's minds. You see, whenever someone blinks or look away, Abel just subtly shifts his spot's positions, except for the nine on his cheeks. And that person thinks, "Hey, his spots have moved!" But since he's so covered in spots, how do they know for certain that the spots have moved, or that they're not just not paying enough attention? Heheheheh. It's all just a part of his jerkass facade.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Janus Whitefurr on July 24, 2009, 04:02:41 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 03:13:46 AM
Actually, judging from all available concrete evidence (i.e. interest he's shown in either gender) I'd have to conclude that he's very possibly just a very advanced genus of protozoan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoeba).  

At the very least, it would explain the ever-moving spots.  :3

I like the way you think.

I wonder if the internet fandom would collapse if Abel were just disinterested as a whole, regardless of whoever was straight or gay for him.  

There'd be fix-fics, no doubt.

(Also, can... someone... please fix the apostrophe in the thread title. Punctuation doesn't work that way.)
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 04:09:51 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on July 24, 2009, 04:02:41 AM
I like the way you think.

I wonder if the internet fandom would collapse if Able were just disinterested as a whole, regardless of whoever was straight or gay for him.  

There'd be fix-fics, no doubt.

(Also, can... someone... please fix the apostrophe in the thread title. Punctuation doesn't work that way.)

There's nothing wrong with it. It's the exact quote from the Expert Corporation's spokesperson, Mr. J. S. Agree, on Abel's tendencies. 
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: ishidan on July 24, 2009, 04:10:30 AM
Quote from: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 03:31:07 AM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 03:13:46 AM
At the very least, it would explain the ever-moving spots.  :3
Oh, that's easy to explain: he's screwing with people's minds. You see, whenever someone blinks or look away, Abel just subtly shifts his spot's positions, except for the nine on his cheeks. And that person thinks, "Hey, his spots have moved!" But since he's so covered in spots, how do they know for certain that the spots have moved, or that they're not just not paying enough attention? Heheheheh. It's all just a part of his jerkass facade.
Well, since it's already been brought up in this thread...
Rule 34.  DMFA's Abel and Sabrina Online's Zig Zag.  On plaid bedsheets.  Go.
/just kidding, I think that would destroy most artists
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Tapewolf on July 24, 2009, 04:16:42 AM
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on July 24, 2009, 04:02:41 AM
(Also, can... someone... please fix the apostrophe in the thread title. Punctuation doesn't work that way.)

Sorted.  Fixing the entire thread may be a bit trickier, but that should help.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: hapless on July 24, 2009, 04:19:55 AM
Quote from: ishidan on July 24, 2009, 04:10:30 AM
On plaid bedsheets.  Go.
At LUDICROUS SPEED (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0)?
//h(You may skip the first minute if you really need to... ~1:00 - ~2:20)
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
What else does the computer say Amber?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Kipiru on July 24, 2009, 06:19:28 AM
Call me a non believer, but I think Abel is straight and just plays it gay to tick people off- look how well it has worked on Dan. And on a side note, the internet is the new street, meaning there is truth to be found, but you have to go through a lot of "my friends cousin said he heard it from a friend who knows it from his dad" type of info.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2009, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
What else does the computer say Amber?

Computer says no.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Seth C Triggs on July 24, 2009, 08:59:11 AM
I lol'ed. The viewer mail here is quite interesting indeed!

-Seth
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Alondro on July 24, 2009, 09:29:09 AM
*Charline shakes her head and chuckles*  Oh Amber.  You should know by now that at least half the Internet is LOADED with gay.  And anything that gets put on it becomes infected by 'teh gey syndrome'... but at least it's not the infection from the other half of the Internet... *shudders and will not speak of its contents*
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Ghostwish on July 24, 2009, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2009, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
What else does the computer say Amber?

Computer says no.

And you just lost a clone, citizen.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Akisohida on July 24, 2009, 10:02:26 AM
I'm not gay for Abel! Then again, I don't want to see any fox-spidetaur with Abel pics out there so I may just be saying that to stay safe! :D

Personally, I think he is bi. Cubi can shapeshift and I am reminded of a line from a dang good story, though high in squick-factor (which I can't name here, due to content).
'I'm a little bit of everything. You can't spend eight thousand eons in the sinnin'est place on earth without experimenting a little bit here and there.'
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Caswin on July 24, 2009, 10:51:50 AM
Quote from: Seth C Triggs on July 24, 2009, 08:59:11 AM
I lol'ed. The viewer mail here is quite interesting indeed!
I also lol'd.  For some reason, I couldn't quite put it into words.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2009, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
What else does the computer say Amber?

Computer says no.

*kaff*


that said, it's never really occurred to anybody that Abel may potentially be either Bi, or Asexual?

or he's just an incorrigible tease?  :U
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Tapewolf on July 24, 2009, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 10:54:16 AM
that said, it's never really occurred to anybody that Abel may potentially be either Bi, or Asexual?
or he's just an incorrigible tease?  :U

Frequently.  It usually comes up whenever someone asserts that Abel is definitely gay  :P
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Nobody on July 24, 2009, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 10:54:16 AMthat said, it's never really occurred to anybody that Abel may potentially be either Bi, or Asexual?

or he's just an incorrigible tease?  :U

Of course it's been considered; for all of five seconds.  Then they went off and decided that 'OMG, he's so gay and I can prove it!' or 'He's totally straight and you can see that here, here and here.'; and just like that, they were set in their opinion and won't change even if Amber tells them exactly what Abel's sexual orientation is.  It's just one of the most common traits of fans; they decide that they know everything about that particular character and wouldn't change if God himself appeared before them and told them that they were wrong.

Granted, there are some exceptions, but that's how most of them are.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 24, 2009, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 10:54:16 AM
that said, it's never really occurred to anybody that Abel may potentially be either Bi, or Asexual?
or he's just an incorrigible tease?  :U

Frequently.  It usually comes up whenever someone asserts that Abel is definitely gay  :P


haw.

well, i'll maintain that his sexuality is unproven until we see some "Abel x [insert character here]" action going on.  :U
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Lucheek on July 24, 2009, 12:00:44 PM
This reminds me. I always had some weird urge to draw a "cheesecake furry" of the bunny with a pancake on it's head.

Also, word for the wise: Don't bring up Rule 34... because it leads to Rule 35:

If somebody finds something that there is not porn of, they are immediatly obliged to make it to keep the sanctity of Rule 34.

(Don't just say things, less you want to begin drawing~)

EDIT:

Also, the internet is unamionously positive about Amber Williams. (http://www.whatdoestheinternetthink.net/)

EDIT PART 2:
Quote from: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 24, 2009, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Turnsky on July 24, 2009, 10:54:16 AM
that said, it's never really occurred to anybody that Abel may potentially be either Bi, or Asexual?
or he's just an incorrigible tease?  :U

Frequently.  It usually comes up whenever someone asserts that Abel is definitely gay  :P


haw.

well, i'll maintain that his sexuality is unproven until we see some "Abel x [insert character here]" action going on.  :U

But what if it's Fi, or Mink? That tells us nothing!
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2009, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Ghostwish on July 24, 2009, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2009, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
What else does the computer say Amber?
Computer says no.
And you just lost a clone, citizen.

The Computer says "No." - is that better? And, of course, I wouldn't question The Computer, because The Computer is my friend.

And yours. Unless you're a treasonous communist secret-society traitor. In which case you should count your clones carefully, in case you any out.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: ChaosMageX on July 24, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
Who else here thinks that Jyrras from DMFA and Nina Einstein from Code Geass have similar personalities?

They're both intellectuals, they're both sensitive, and they both develop homoerotic crushes for other characters in their settings. :P
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on July 24, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
Who else here thinks that Jyrras from DMFA and Nina Einstein from Code Geass have similar personalities?

They're both intellectuals, they're both sensitive, and they both develop homoerotic crushes for other characters in their settings. :P
Well, to a certain degree. Somehow, I doubt that Jyrras is going to be using any tables in a fashion like Nina did, or snap and go crazy and try to kill everyone when his crush gets killed, and reveal himself to be a creaturephobic asshole. That doesn't entirely sound like Jyboy.

I sure hope Abel doesn't get killed. That would just be the cherry on the sundae of suckage that is his life.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Akisohida on July 24, 2009, 01:11:49 PM
Quote from: Lucheek on July 24, 2009, 12:00:44 PM


Also, the internet is unamionously positive about Amber Williams. (http://www.whatdoestheinternetthink.net/)

'Conclusion: Even the internet is not quite sure about akisohida, according to all search-engines.'

Rofl.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: senrath on July 24, 2009, 03:54:31 PM
Heh.  I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a picture of a Wiku with a pancake on her head.

I vote that picture becomes an emote here.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: MT Hazard on July 24, 2009, 04:13:26 PM
Quote from: senrath on July 24, 2009, 03:54:31 PM
Heh.  I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a picture of a Wiku with a pancake on her head.

I vote that picture becomes an emote here.

Am I the only one not seeing the picture here?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Angel on July 24, 2009, 04:23:57 PM
Quote from: Lucheek on July 24, 2009, 12:00:44 PM

Also, the internet is unamionously positive about Amber Williams. (http://www.whatdoestheinternetthink.net/)


Well, my afternoon just got booked solid. Thanks! :3

Also, since no-one's done it yet, as far as I can tell:

Quote from: LionHeart on July 24, 2009, 02:52:56 AM
Quote from: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 01:57:44 AM
QuoteAnd Abel isn't just Bi, he's actually BiBel. I regret nothing!
If he heard that, he might Belt you for it...

I'd hit you if I wasn't grinning and laughing so much right now...
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Angel on July 24, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Lucheek on July 24, 2009, 12:00:44 PM
Also, the internet is unamionously positive about Amber Williams. (http://www.whatdoestheinternetthink.net/)

Well, my afternoon just got booked solid. Thanks! :3 Oh, and also:

Quote from: LionHeart on July 24, 2009, 02:52:56 AM
Quote from: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 01:57:44 AM
And Abel isn't just Bi, he's actually BiBel. I regret nothing!
If he heard that, he might Belt you for it...

If that weren't such a perfect pun combination, I'd kill you both. XP
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Evil Fox on July 24, 2009, 05:22:42 PM
I remember Amber saying that she does get rule 34 type drawings from fans while everyone watch her play Dead Space over the net. I only come across one pic so far though.

Abel strikes me as extra shy about that sort of thing and does seem to do everything he can to get off subject. After a few hundred years I imagine he got reeeeallly good at it.

Gay for Abel-- I whole new vein of akward. booyaaa
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: OminousShadow on July 24, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
What? Abel, gay? That's preposterous!  >(
...
It's common knowledge that he's bi.

Side note since we're talking about the intarwebz... has anyone had the guts to invoke Rule 34 on DMFA yet..?  :erk

I've seen plenty. I want to unsee it all... Though the Female Abel one wasn't that bad, it's still something I didn't want to see.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Wanderer on July 24, 2009, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: MT Hazard on July 24, 2009, 04:13:26 PM
Quote from: senrath on July 24, 2009, 03:54:31 PM
Heh.  I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a picture of a Wiku with a pancake on her head.

I vote that picture becomes an emote here.

Am I the only one not seeing the picture here?
Look at the current comic. Now look again. If you still aren't seeing it, you really need to work on the things your mind is unconsciously filtering out.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Goatmon on July 24, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
It's funny because it's true.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Teroniss on July 24, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
I've always viewed Abel as asexual. Throughout the comic so far, he really hasnt shown any sexual interest in anyone at all, male or female. As for the random crossdressing; crossdressing doesnt necessarily determine sexuality, simply a curiousity in cross gender fashion.....
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Arapaima on July 24, 2009, 10:23:51 PM
Or an acknowledgment that you look great in skirts
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on July 24, 2009, 10:40:36 PM
I just have one thing to say... :noobrape

And I have no clue what I'm suppost to look for in the comic.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 24, 2009, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: Zedd on July 24, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
What else does the computer say Amber?

Computer says no.
Turn it off mum! I don't like it! :<
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Expert's Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: LionHeart on July 25, 2009, 01:24:24 AM
Quote from: OminousShadow on July 24, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: rhyfe2002 on July 24, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
What? Abel, gay? That's preposterous!  >(
...
It's common knowledge that he's bi.

Side note since we're talking about the intarwebz... has anyone had the guts to invoke Rule 34 on DMFA yet..?  :erk

I've seen plenty. I want to unsee it all... Though the Female Abel one wasn't that bad, it's still something I didn't want to see.
Actually, I think a female Abel would be Rule 63, rather than Rule 34...
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Goatmon on July 25, 2009, 02:27:43 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on July 24, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
I've always viewed Abel as asexual. Throughout the comic so far, he really hasnt shown any sexual interest in anyone at all, male or female. As for the random crossdressing; crossdressing doesnt necessarily determine sexuality, simply a curiousity in cross gender fashion.....

He's never shown sexual interest, but he's certainly acted more femenine than most of the female cast, from time to time.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Scuravolpe on July 25, 2009, 04:51:30 AM
The sexuality of shapeshifters is an interesting topic, but not hard to really figure out. Considering gender is basically optional for them, they're pretty much free to go after whatever they want, as they can be whatever gender or race they want. The entire psychology and mentality behind their preferences leans towards bisexuality as the norm, at least once they've fully developed their shapeshifting abilities. I would even go so far as to say that heterosexuality would be considered a deviation for them, probably the same way homosexuality is for humans. When you talk about and consider their actions and reactions towards other people of the same or different gender, you must always keep in mind that they only vaguely think similarly to you. Their minds work off a totally different set of priorities, so even body language and word choice isn't reliable for determining intent and reasoning.

My opinion of Abel: I haven't a clue. Keep in mind Abel is first and foremost a manipulator, so if you think he's gone around showing his true feeling at every turn, you'd be wrong. He told Jyrras to go with his feelings because Abel doesn't like people pretending to be what they aren't, but he still has his defenses up himself (who said he isn't able to contradict himself a little - it's called a character flaw, people have them, I know, weird right?). I don't think he so much acts like what he's not, than he just doesn't let people in. He's usually either off-putting, cold, and sarcastic or displaying muted emotions at best, so reading him is a damn difficult challenge.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Tapewolf on July 25, 2009, 05:07:28 AM
Quote from: Scuravolpe on July 25, 2009, 04:51:30 AM
The entire psychology and mentality behind their preferences leans towards bisexuality as the norm, at least once they've fully developed their shapeshifting abilities.

That and spending 400 years with other shapeshifters who are permanently 20-something is liable to have some side-effects.

QuoteHe [Abel] told Jyrras to go with his feelings because Abel doesn't like people pretending to be what they aren't, but he still has his defenses up himself (who said he isn't able to contradict himself a little - it's called a character flaw, people have them, I know, weird right?). I don't think he so much acts like what he's not, than he just doesn't let people in. He's usually either off-putting, cold, and sarcastic or displaying muted emotions at best, so reading him is a damn difficult challenge.

I suspect it's just that he's damaged goods.  It's the simplest explanation.
Abel's real hatred seems to be of people maliciously impersonating others, e.g. what Aniz did with Cid.  Pretending that he (Abel) is different to how he really is inside isn't exactly the same thing, it's probably just a defence mechanism.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 05:35:36 AM
Quote from: Scuravolpe on July 25, 2009, 04:51:30 AM
The sexuality of shapeshifters is an interesting topic, but not hard to really figure out. Considering gender is basically optional for them, they're pretty much free to go after whatever they want, as they can be whatever gender or race they want. The entire psychology and mentality behind their preferences leans towards bisexuality as the norm, at least once they've fully developed their shapeshifting abilities. I would even go so far as to say that heterosexuality would be considered a deviation for them, probably the same way homosexuality is for humans. When you talk about and consider their actions and reactions towards other people of the same or different gender, you must always keep in mind that they only vaguely think similarly to you. Their minds work off a totally different set of priorities, so even body language and word choice isn't reliable for determining intent and reasoning.

You're overthinking it, based on your own preferences (I would guess). Amber has said that whle they can _look_ like anything they want, males can't use shapeshifting to get pregnant. This suggests that females can't use shapeshifting to impregnate other non-Cubi females, either (although from memory she didn't say it in as many words).

As a result... while they might play the field, so to speak, I'm betting they still have preferences. And, as with any large group of people, those preferences vary from person to person.

In short - they're just people. Just like everyone else.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Scuravolpe on July 25, 2009, 07:45:25 AM
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying, "playing the other game" wouldn't be some sort of weird "out-there" taboo for them, as most of them can rather easily try it from both points of view. My other point was that they don't use human logic, they use Cubi logic, so to assume too many similarities is taking a lot for granted. Certain instinctual things as breeding and eating are pretty much the same, but when you introduce optional gender (but not full biology, as Amber said), the sexuality becomes much more separated from reproduction and open to deviation than with our boring, single-form bodies. Bring in nigh-immortality and all of a sudden we're not even in the same ballpark, let alone playing the same game. Maybe I overestimated the ratio of straight-to-bisexual by saying it was probably inverted compared to humans, but I doubt it isn't considered common at the very least.

Huzzah for extended discussions on totally peripheral matters in a fictional world. But hey, just shows we love it.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Keleth on July 25, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
Here's the real question.

Why does sexual orientation of a character -matter- so much? :b

It really shouldn't matter, so I assume people just think about it because they're bored?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on July 25, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
Here's the real question.

Why does sexual orientation of a character -matter- so much? :b

People think too much with their genitals.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Tapewolf on July 25, 2009, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
People think too much with their genitals.

Kria's use of the terms "incubus-level hot" and "Aren't you the little succubus?" (when first meeting Jyrras) suggest that 'Cubi might suffer from that too.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Kipiru on July 25, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on July 25, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
Here's the real question.

Why does sexual orientation of a character -matter- so much? :b

People think too much with their genitals.

Not just too much, entirely! All humanity does is in the name of procreation and that is a fact! 99 % of all the actions of any person are done with the conscious or subconscious thought of impressing a member of the opposite sex. And that goes for normal humans, who I think are most closely realted to beings in the DMFA world, now imagine an emotion crazed demon and apply this to it. It's a wonder they don't go around humping at sight!
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: JackTheCubiWolf on July 25, 2009, 12:26:41 PM
You guys think into this waaaaaay too much.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: rabid_fox on July 25, 2009, 01:53:53 PM

Thinking is gay.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Mao on July 25, 2009, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: Kipiru on July 25, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on July 25, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
Here's the real question.

Why does sexual orientation of a character -matter- so much? :b

People think too much with their genitals.

Not just too much, entirely! All humanity does is in the name of procreation and that is a fact! 99 % of all the actions of any person are done with the conscious or subconscious thought of impressing a member of the opposite sex. And that goes for normal humans, who I think are most closely realted to beings in the DMFA world, now imagine an emotion crazed demon and apply this to it. It's a wonder they don't go around humping at sight!

I would love to know where you got those numbers and facts...I've got a whole list of motivations that say otherwise and some interesting psych books that talk about projecting that I think you might want to read.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Kenji on July 25, 2009, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on July 25, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
Here's the real question.

Why does sexual orientation of a character -matter- so much? :b

People think too much with their genitals.

No, people like to think what they can do to who with their genitals.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: TheDXM on July 25, 2009, 05:51:55 PM
I see the infamous 'Abel's sexuality' question is still raging in everyone's minds.

Just so everyone knows: If you put it on Wikipedia, it DOES become true.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Kipiru on July 25, 2009, 07:29:39 PM
Quote from: Mao Laoren on July 25, 2009, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: Kipiru on July 25, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 25, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Drathorin on July 25, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
Here's the real question.

Why does sexual orientation of a character -matter- so much? :b

People think too much with their genitals.

Not just too much, entirely! All humanity does is in the name of procreation and that is a fact! 99 % of all the actions of any person are done with the conscious or subconscious thought of impressing a member of the opposite sex. And that goes for normal humans, who I think are most closely realted to beings in the DMFA world, now imagine an emotion crazed demon and apply this to it. It's a wonder they don't go around humping at sight!

I would love to know where you got those numbers and facts...I've got a whole list of motivations that say otherwise and some interesting psych books that talk about projecting that I think you might want to read.

I get them from me! Keep your books, my mind is set!  8)
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Jairus on July 25, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
Quote from: The DXM on July 25, 2009, 05:51:55 PM
I see the infamous 'Abel's sexuality' question is still raging in everyone's minds.

Just so everyone knows: If you put it on Wikipedia, it DOES become true.
But if you change what is on Wikipedia, then that also becomes true...

Oh gods... WIKIPEDIA IS A REALITY WARPER. We must destroy it!
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Teroniss on July 25, 2009, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: Goatmon on July 25, 2009, 02:27:43 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on July 24, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
I've always viewed Abel as asexual. Throughout the comic so far, he really hasnt shown any sexual interest in anyone at all, male or female. As for the random crossdressing; crossdressing doesnt necessarily determine sexuality, simply a curiousity in cross gender fashion.....

He's never shown sexual interest, but he's certainly acted more femenine than most of the female cast, from time to time.

So that just means he's androgenous......  :rolleyes


(ps- Looking back at some of the older comics, Abel actually admits in a Question from the Viewers panel that he is androgenous, but all male. Take that how you will....)
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: TheWhiteChild on July 27, 2009, 03:50:00 AM
Eheheh... Well, I happen to have seen a -certain- Rule 34 picture that Amber herself drew, and I can definitely say for sure Abel is NOT straight. He's any of the rest, although he did that just to get him to shut up.   >:3

No, I will not link or tell what it is here, so You'll have to use your imagination. Of course, you could email to ask about it.  :mowwink
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Dagardo on July 27, 2009, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: TheWhiteChild on July 27, 2009, 03:50:00 AM
Eheheh... Well, I happen to have seen a -certain- Rule 34 picture that Amber herself drew, and I can definitely say for sure Abel is NOT straight. He's any of the rest, although he did that just to get him to shut up.   >:3

We can both say that, for I know of the picture you speak of. And it doubly confirms something else we all already knew as well. :3 What it is I won't say, simply for those who don't know what it is.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on July 27, 2009, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: TheWhiteChild on July 27, 2009, 03:50:00 AM
Eheheh... Well, I happen to have seen a -certain- Rule 34 picture that Amber herself drew, and I can definitely say for sure Abel is NOT straight. He's any of the rest, although he did that just to get him to shut up.   >:3
We can both say that, for I know of the picture you speak of. And it doubly confirms something else we all already knew as well. :3 What it is I won't say, simply for those who don't know what it is.

What makes you think that that image (any of them - I'm aware of at least three that match the descriptions so far) are canon?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Tapewolf on July 27, 2009, 07:59:17 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
What makes you think that that image (any of them - I'm aware of at least three that match the descriptions so far) are canon?

Wishful thinking? :P
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Dagardo on July 27, 2009, 08:42:06 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
What makes you think that that image (any of them - I'm aware of at least three that match the descriptions so far) are canon?

I said they were canon? If I did I apologize, that's not what I meant to say. I was trying to say something else and I can't remember what. And looking at my previous post isn't helping at all. Listening to music kinda makes me brain dead.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Psaakyrn on July 27, 2009, 08:46:10 AM
Quote from: Jairus on July 24, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: ChaosMageX on July 24, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
Who else here thinks that Jyrras from DMFA and Nina Einstein from Code Geass have similar personalities?

They're both intellectuals, they're both sensitive, and they both develop homoerotic crushes for other characters in their settings. :P
Well, to a certain degree. Somehow, I doubt that Jyrras is going to be using any tables in a fashion like Nina did, or snap and go crazy and try to kill everyone when his crush gets killed, and reveal himself to be a creaturephobic asshole. That doesn't entirely sound like Jyboy.

I sure hope Abel doesn't get killed. That would just be the cherry on the sundae of suckage that is his life.

I wouldn't be quite that certain (regarding Jyrras), given http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_102.php ...
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: Dagardo on July 27, 2009, 08:42:06 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
What makes you think that that image (any of them - I'm aware of at least three that match the descriptions so far) are canon?

I said they were canon? If I did I apologize, that's not what I meant to say. I was trying to say something else and I can't remember what. And looking at my previous post isn't helping at all. Listening to music kinda makes me brain dead.

I do believe you and TheWhiteChild were attempting to suggest that Abel's gender preferences are known.

Which I was taking exception to, as those images are the result of Amber's diseased imagination (and anyone who's talked to her knows just how diseased I'm talking about) and hence not admissible as evidence, either for or against. So far as canon images can be said, we really don't know one way or the other.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Dagardo on July 27, 2009, 09:15:04 AM
Now that I give it some thought, I guess I was saying as much. It seems that all I can say now is what Tapewolf did, "wishful thinking". Although I apologize again, I wasn't thinking very clearly when I was typing that. I wasn't trying to suggest anything. I guess I just assumed it was an "unseen occurrence", which I now realize that there's a great chance it wasn't. And I take back whatever I may have implied.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Mao on July 27, 2009, 09:17:35 AM
Hooo man.. if everything that was ever drawn of my character was true and canon (even some of the stuff drawn by me)... he'd have a hard time calling himself a monk.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Dagardo on July 27, 2009, 09:15:04 AM
Now that I give it some thought, I guess I was saying as much. It seems that all I can say now is what Tapewolf did, "wishful thinking". Although I apologize again, I wasn't thinking very clearly when I was typing that. I wasn't trying to suggest anything. I guess I just assumed it was an "unseen occurrence", which I now realize that there's a great chance it wasn't. And I take back whatever I may have implied.

Oh, I wasn't criticising. Merely suggesting that some folks might have taken it a bit far, is all.

We're all friends here, right?
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: Dagardo on July 28, 2009, 12:28:59 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 01:27:34 PM
Oh, I wasn't criticising. Merely suggesting that some folks might have taken it a bit far, is all.

We're all friends here, right?

OK, I'll take your word on it, although it's probably better that such conversation topics be steered clear of in the future, if just to avoid any single minded people we may encounter. By "conversation topics I of course mean anything that has to do with any characters (probably Abel's) orientation, or any such related topic.

And lets hope were all friends here, should be a lot less trouble that way.
Title: Re: 07/24/09 [DMFA #1024] - Experts Agree:Abel is Gay
Post by: TheDXM on July 28, 2009, 03:30:09 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on July 27, 2009, 07:59:17 AM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on July 27, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
What makes you think that that image (any of them - I'm aware of at least three that match the descriptions so far) are canon?

Wishful thinking? :P

It's easy to pounce on a little fan service sometimes.

Or you can just sit back and appreciate... >:3