More crest now. And that is exactly what Kria would say. Poor Lorenda.
Also, go Dan using your wings to cut Aliph!
OW! hand breakage for the win!!
Go DAN!
*EDIT*
Yep, seeing the eyes goe glowy. Cool!
Hope there's magic.
Is it me, or are Dan's eyes turning blue?
Magic usage coming up praps?
Looks like they are not interfering with the fight.
edit: how did someone beat me to posting this.
And once again, Kria manages to make me laugh.
And yikes, DP almost got his hand chopped off, by the looks of things.
Looks like it's Dan's turn to cause some pain.
Glowy eyes are a fun sign.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 15, 2009, 11:51:28 PM
Is it me, or are Dan's eyes turning blue?
Magic usage coming up praps?
His eyes did turn blue. Like his clan mark.
Or maybe it's really Alexsi! :p
I just realized something: Dan's still thinking clearly. In the last comic, Aliph told Dan that his wings were the toughest parts of his body, and look what Dan does as soon as he can get a solid hit in. Good job picking that up, Dan.
I like how Kria is acting like... well... how we'd expect her to act.
I'm also loving how Dan is acting MUCH LESS like the random attacker like we saw him as earlier, and more like... the adventurer that he is.
Feel free to berate me for everything I just said.
I am tired right now, and nothing I said probably made much sense.
Quote from: Jairus on March 16, 2009, 12:05:58 AM
I just realized something: Dan's still thinking clearly. In the last comic, Aliph told Dan that his wings were the toughest parts of his body, and look what Dan does as soon as he can get a solid hit in. Good job picking that up, Dan.
I think you give Dan too much credit. He may have just acted on instincts. Wait... if that was true, he'd have ale in his hands.... :mowdizzy
Yikes!!!
Okay, this is getting a little intense....
But yeah, good move on Dan's part there....
YESS. YEEESSSSS. Fight scenes + comedy = WIN. Also is it me or does the mark on his shoulder look a bit like a smiley sticking out its tongue?
Me thinks maybe when DMFA ends, that it will continue in a different name with a one up rating
Quote from: AndersW on March 15, 2009, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 15, 2009, 11:51:28 PM
Is it me, or are Dan's eyes turning blue?
Magic usage coming up praps?
His eyes did turn blue. Like his clan mark.
I have to wonder if it's something like Aniz's out-of-control-Cubi mode from this one (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_98.php). Granted, not exactly the same, but it came to mind.
Man, I already said Dan's starting to look like Aniz.... :erk
i think i said with Kria on this one. when they are don she'll have seen which on is better if not how dan kills her bother how her brother kills the one that has killed him so many times.
you know... I actually am starting to dislike Lorenda... She just so un demon like.
Quote from: Hellcat on March 16, 2009, 12:37:43 AM
you know... I actually am starting to dislike Lorenda... She just so un demon like.
Which is exacly why she's needed, to balance out Kria (as well as all the other demons herein contained). ;)
OK, now that's a little more like it! It's good to see Dan *finally* giving as good as he gets. And glowy eyes = win, plus more clan symbol. That makes me feel much better.
But by far the biggest piece of win here is still Kria. She's quickly moving up the rankings of funniest character.
Quote from: senrath on March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
And once again, Kria manages to make me laugh.
And yikes, DP almost got his hand chopped off, by the looks of things.
Judging from DP's cry of pain in the last panel, I think he did >.>
and then the xenomorphic alien busts out of Dan's chest and....wait that's not right.
Yup, that's a Cyra clan mark, all right.
...
So, when they're at the morgue, if the gaping chest wound doesn't help them with the body, the mark will definitely be a good ID.
maybe not right and out of place but it would be funny
still i have to ask why on the shoulder? why not the forehead or chest or something like that?
Quote from: Teroniss on March 16, 2009, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: senrath on March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
And once again, Kria manages to make me laugh.
And yikes, DP almost got his hand chopped off, by the looks of things.
Judging from DP's cry of pain in the last panel, I think he did >.>
I dunno, I think I'd scream a lot if I got my arm cut straight to the bone, possibly breaking said bone in the process. Cutting all the way through wouldn't be necessary for that kind of reaction, I don't think.
I was actually expecting Dan to wrap his tentacles around Dark Pegasus' arm and turn it into a pile of steaks. Funny, DP basically making the same tactical error as Dan. That's right, Aliph, give your opponent useful advice then expose yourself to the enemy.
A few people have lamented about DP's wavering levels of genre savvy. I don't buy it.
Consider: The last fight between Daniel and Aliph didn't have to turn out so well for Dan. Dark Pegasus essentially has unlimited retries. A double knockout is a victory for DP. So, they both die. Dan gets a bittersweet ending and a heroes burial. Al gets brought back to try again without interference. It's a perfectly reasonable Xanatos gambit. I'd have done it in his position, if only for the lulz. Of course, Mab and Wildy's presence sort of negated the overall effectiveness of the gambit at permanently getting rid of Dan.
the clan marking changes too much, maybe it's appearance on Dan's arm will give it a permanent form.
I think kira is my favourite character. That last line made me roar with laughter. Also, whoo for glowing eyes. Looks like we'll get some real pain an destruction soon! ^_^
Though how Amber will manage that with a pg rating, I dunno...
Tough to break up a fight between two characters that powerful , unless you could shock them at the same time somehow?
good advice when fighting with someone, don't tell them things they don't know so that they can use it against you :U
Ah, Lorenda and Kria -- same planet, different worlds. :mowhappy I think Kria is right though - they're doing just fine on their own. As for breaking it up, a few buckets of ice water might help -- but otherwise it would be like sticking your hand into a catfight - only much worse.
So Dan gives as good or better than he gets -- looks like he gives DP some to-the-bone cuts and some bone breakage as well (from the sound of it). DP's yell says Dan did a very good job whatever he did. Dan's got the eyes starting to glow blue and the clan mark coming in a little more clearly - and a really damned determined look on his face. I think Dan'll get a really good powerup from DP's pain here too.
Prediction: Kria and Lorenda do eventually break it up some way or the other (at least for a little while); meanwhile, Regina realizes that distance is her friend and immediately gets herself some, leaving Dan vs Regina for another day.
edit: bloody typo
Quote from: Teh_Hobo on March 16, 2009, 12:16:06 AM
...is it me or does the mark on his shoulder look a bit like a smiley sticking out its tongue?
That's the Cyra clan symbol coming in, a bit more defined/solid here than in the previous strip.
Quote from: Teroniss on March 16, 2009, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: senrath on March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
And yikes, DP almost got his hand chopped off, by the looks of things.
Judging from DP's cry of pain in the last panel, I think he did >.>
There was speculation of Aliph being raised as an undead. His pained yell in the last panel would indicate that he's actually alive, since it's been said that undead don't feel pain. Also he has no glowing yellow pupils.
I think that at heart Dark Pegasus is more of a researcher than a fighter per-se. Maybe he wished that he'd gotten to be a teacher?
Quote from: AmigaDragon on March 16, 2009, 04:19:26 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on March 16, 2009, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: senrath on March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
And yikes, DP almost got his hand chopped off, by the looks of things.
Judging from DP's cry of pain in the last panel, I think he did >.>
There was speculation of Aliph being raised as an undead. His pained yell in the last panel would indicate that he's actually alive, since it's been said that undead don't feel pain. Also he has no glowing yellow pupils.
Well, there goes my theory. Additionally, Dan isn't bleeding as much as I would expect, ether. Combined with Amber apologizing for what little blood we do see, for TWO DAYS NOW, I am forced to chalk it up to artistic license.
Quote from: terrycloth on March 16, 2009, 04:30:39 AM
I think that at heart Dark Pegasus is more of a researcher than a fighter per-se. Maybe he wished that he'd gotten to be a teacher?
Although we don't see him, I'm pretty sure it's big brother DP mentoring a roughly 400 year younger Kria here in Abel's story:
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Abel_69.php
(Also, this whole scene with Abel is something I remember about Kria whenever anyone starts in with the whole "Kria is totally evil" thing -- all these characters are way more complex than that.)
So yeah, DP does have a side that wants to be a teacher. If he'd just stop messing about with the Dark God, I think they could figure out some way to get along (somewhat anyway -- he'd still not be all gumdrops and sugar plums by any means).
I would like to see Fi bring Abel -- just to see Abel and Kria together again.
Quote from: Fex on March 16, 2009, 04:08:28 AM
good advice when fighting with someone, don't tell them things they don't know so that they can use it against you :U
I was going to say - in retrospect it was an incredibly dim thing to do. I think Tech's fears about DP being genre-savvy may have been premature :P
Quote from: !KCA on March 16, 2009, 01:51:46 AM
I was actually expecting Dan to wrap his tentacles around Dark Pegasus' arm and turn it into a pile of steaks.
That may yet happen. Kudos for Dan for shielding himself though, however late it may be (though his head is still exposed). Hopefully the pain will allow him to heal up/stop the bleeding before it gets critical.
Quote from: Marmonstein on March 15, 2009, 11:53:21 PM
Glowy eyes are a fun sign.
Yes. 'Cubi seem to do the glowy-eye thing when they're about to royally lose it, a'la Hennya. Destania and Aary also did this, though I don't think their eyes went the colour of their clan-mark that time.
Quote from: tiggertoo on March 16, 2009, 05:00:52 AM
I would like to see Fi bring Abel -- just to see Abel and Kria together again.
"Missus Soulstealer...?!"
One thing that disturbs me about this strip is that Regina isn't there. She needs to be taken out so she can't interfere.
I do like how Kria is keeping in character, which is basically laissez-faire non-interference. She very much believes in letting people suffer/gain from the consequences of their own actions. The fact that she has more than a touch of black humor about it just makes it more fun.
Unclear whether Dan has had an artery or his heart injured. That actually won't be known until DP's hand is removed. That's why you don't remove a knife until you reach the hospital, because that could be the only thing arresting the bleeding.
On an unrelated note, I'm hereby claiming the no-prize for furthest away posting. I'm typing this from the Base Library of Downtown Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
I must say Dan cutting Aliph's arm off mid fight is an interesting move. It is also something I think Dan would do... It's something I would do given the opportunity.
Dan also appears to have cleaned up his fighting style as he appears to be fighting with focus now.
Oh and Aliph... ouch, wrong cubi to mess with.
I think Dan is casting or about to cast a spell but which one is up in the air.
Amber no need to apologies for the blood, it only add to the severity of the fight. It is a lot cleaner than some Disney movies where they show drug and alcohol use in addition to gratuitous blood. A few Mickey Mouse movies fall into said category.
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
I must say Dan cutting Aliph's arm off mid fight is an interesting move. It is also something I think Dan would do... It's something I would do given the opportunity.
When I first saw the page, I thought Dan had kicked him in the nuts...
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
I think Dan is casting or about to cast a spell but which one is up in the air.
Healing, one would hope. That's the sort of basic magic that even an Adventurer should learn.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 05:44:45 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
I must say Dan cutting Aliph's arm off mid fight is an interesting move. It is also something I think Dan would do... It's something I would do given the opportunity.
When I first saw the page, I thought Dan had kicked him in the nuts...
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
I think Dan is casting or about to cast a spell but which one is up in the air.
Healing, one would hope. That's the sort of basic magic that even an Adventurer should learn.
For all we know Dan might have only to add insult+injury to injury. Aliph was in the perfect position to get his groin damaged from a well placed strike which would cause him to rear back in pain... along with loosing his arm.
Dan is not known for being the most clearest thinking one, he tends to think outside the box so he may have sacrificed defense for offense.
That or he's in some sort of cubi rage where he instinctively makes his moves.
You know, I'm wondering if Dan might let DP live this time, as he hasn't done anything wrong at this point (other than come back from the dead).
Quote from: senrath on March 16, 2009, 01:32:00 AM
Quote from: Teroniss on March 16, 2009, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: senrath on March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
And once again, Kria manages to make me laugh.
And yikes, DP almost got his hand chopped off, by the looks of things.
Judging from DP's cry of pain in the last panel, I think he did >.>
I dunno, I think I'd scream a lot if I got my arm cut straight to the bone, possibly breaking said bone in the process. Cutting all the way through wouldn't be necessary for that kind of reaction, I don't think.
it's hard to tell from the angle could it be DP's head that was hit by the wings?
Quote from: John Roh on March 16, 2009, 07:00:21 AM
it's hard to tell from the angle could it be DP's head that was hit by the wings?
I don't think he quite has the reach for that, though I suppose it's just possible he's sliced the end of his muzzle.
I'm wondering what mood Dan is going to be in after the fight... I actually thought of an alternate scenario, being the twisted person that I am, that he wins, something snaps in his mind, he returns to Lost Lake all full of rage and yet very satisfied at causing pain, he starts then going in to a rampage, now blinded to his own judgment, just wishing to destroy inflict pain on anyone and everyone who had ever wronged him... Abel shows up, gags/vomits because of all the blood Dan is covered in, tries to reason with him, well since he is supposed to be his tutor and help him deal with his emotions and abilities... At that point Destania shows up, now happy that her son has embraced his cubi abilities tells him to help her destroy the dragons, after telling him exactly what happened to his father to get him more enraged and becomes a fighter for his mother, who was just doing the whole Aniz thing, being a loving parent until the abilities kick in....
Of course that's just my thoughts. In the possibly 100% chance that isn't going to happen. I say this is alternate ending
Quote from: Hellcat on March 16, 2009, 07:17:18 AM
I'm wondering what mood Dan is going to be in after the fight... I actually thought of an alternate scenario, being the twisted person that I am, that he wins, something snaps in his mind, he returns to Lost Lake all full of rage and yet very satisfied at causing pain, he starts then going in to a rampage, now blinded to his own judgment, just wishing to destroy inflict pain on anyone and everyone who had ever wronged him... Abel shows up, gags/vomits because of all the blood Dan is covered in, tries to reason with him, well since he is supposed to be his tutor and help him deal with his emotions and abilities... At that point Destania shows up, now happy that her son has embraced his cubi abilities tells him to help her destroy the dragons, after telling him exactly what happened to his father to get him more enraged and becomes a fighter for his mother, who was just doing the whole Aniz thing, being a loving parent until the abilities kick in....
Of course that's just my thoughts. In the possibly 100% chance that isn't going to happen. I say this is alternate ending
"Lets all go to the lobby, Lets all go to the lobby, Lets all go to the lobby and get ourselves some snacks."
You are forgetting about Lorenda and Kira.
Like I said before, the only one who would want to stop those two from killing each other is Lorenda.
Though the way Dan injured Aliph I think Regina is going to try and get on his good side... that or run for the hills.
And only because I have Star Wars on the brain...
Dan shot/attacked first, Dan got Aliph to scream first.
Hands controlling attacker's hand. Check.
Glowing eyes of doom (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GlowingEyesOfDoom). Check.
Clan mark (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FacialMarkings) becoming more defined (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerTattoo). Check.
Serious counter attack. Check.
Dan's turning the momentum of battle around, Yeah!
I think Aliph now has a broken arm, with serious cuts. And the pain is a delicious power up for Dan. I've observed before that fighting a Cubi with Dan's emotional affinities seriously bites. And the double wing cross strike is a new maneuver.
Amber said previously that Dan's clan mark would come in on his shoulder.
DP and Regina ganging up on Dan with Kria "helping."
Tune in next week when Jyrras resurrects Dan and things start getting REALLY wacky on the first episode of... dun Dun DUNNNNNN ...the 6 million dollar Dan.
Ouchie. I think that's probably just a broken arm... maybe. Go Dan go!
Quote from: Shachza on March 16, 2009, 07:58:25 AM
Tune in next week when Jyrras resurrects Dan and things start getting REALLY wacky on the first episode of... dun Dun DUNNNNNN ...the 6 million dollar Dan.
Ugh, I hope not...
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 07:23:57 AM
You are forgetting about Lorenda and Kira.
Must we add the word 'Kira' to the swear filter? :P
QuoteLike I said before, the only one who would want to stop those two from killing each other is Lorenda.
Though the way Dan injured Aliph I think Regina is going to try and get on his good side... that or run for the hills.
I hope she's done the sensible thing and run. She can always come back later to see if Dan is dead yet. Heck, that's that I'd do.
Quote from: Arcblade on March 16, 2009, 08:03:33 AM
Ouchie. I think that's probably just a broken arm... maybe. Go Dan go!
I think he's cut it open. I hope Abel doesn't see this.
*register to throw own 2 cents in*
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 05:44:45 AM
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
I think Dan is casting or about to cast a spell but which one is up in the air.
Healing, one would hope. That's the sort of basic magic that even an Adventurer should learn.
while it is known that magic has to be learned, Dan (due to Adventuring school and possibly before the incident (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php)) might know the concepts and basic techniques... but Dan has not practiced much if at all if his statement is correct.
My personal hypothesis is that he is instinctively using magic to at least moderate his wounds. This just might be my perception but his eyes really started to glow and his clan marking started to be noticeable in the third panel of #982 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_982.php), the point in which he was seriously injured. And while Dan does have blood on his chest, to me it looks like there is less blood there then there probably should be. However that last part could also be attributed to artistic liberties.
Quote from: Kenway975 on March 16, 2009, 08:12:40 AM
while it is known that magic has to be learned, Dan (due to Adventuring school and possibly before the incident (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php)) might know the concepts and basic techniques... but Dan has not practiced much if at all if his statement is correct.
I'm not convinced. He can pull swords out of thin air and was able to levitate rocks as a child. Even Dan, prejudiced as he is, would be able to see the use of a healing spell, in much the same way as he loved Abel's sword trick at SAIA.
QuoteMy personal hypothesis is that he is instinctively using magic to at least moderate his wounds.
That is also likely.
Welcome to the forum, by the way. Remember to read the rules, be good, have fun etc...
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 07:23:57 AM
Though the way Dan injured Aliph I think Regina is going to try and get on his good side... that or run for the hills.
Sings (badly):"
The Hills are aliiiiiiiiive, with the sound of screeeeeeeaminnnnnng!" :idol
Leaving Regina behind for the moment (while her absence just now is suspicious, it could just be that she's just that much marginalized by the scene at hand)...
(To be sung to the tune of "Hair" - more or less)
PainYou ask me why...must I fight this guy?
I'm the noon and he the night; We strike with all our might!
I'm in pain, high and low,
A burning rage; blood so cold!
Why won't this guy stay dead?
A recuring demon overlord!
Gimme nerve ripping pain, sharp beautiful pain!
Shining, gleaming, steaming, screaming, tasty
Give me down to there, pain!
Right through the heart (pain!)
You tried to rip my heart out, Aliph, let me return the favor!
Pain! (pain, pain, pain, pain, pain)
Feel it, Steal it;
Long as my body heals it, My Pain!
As we fight and we bleed, you're giving me what I need
Every blow such delicious pain
As Regina flees, as we fight and bleed
A violent feast, there ain't no words
For the beauty, the splendor, the wonder of my
Pain! (pain, pain, pain, pain, pain)
Feel it, Steal it;
Long as my body heals it, My Pain!
I want it long, tortured, hazy, crazy
Tattered, ragged, ratty, matty
Sharp and fleeting, or dull and lingering
Gleaming, steaming, screaming, tasty
Knotted, polka-dotted; Twisted, stitched and blistered
Pounding, flowing, and always growing
Bangled, tangled, spangled and exploding!
O-oh, Say can you see; my eyes if you can,
Then you're way too close!
Down to blood, down to bone,
Fighting now, in your own home;
No quarter given!
doo doo doo doo doot-doot doo doo doot
They'll be talking at my sister's bar
They'll tell me that I'v gone too far!
My wings made of blue, and bloodied feathers
Our pain and the rage that fuels it
Normally I would abhore it
But with this agony my fight is won!
Why do my friends all fear me?With all due appologies for turning an idealistic hippy song into a tribute to Dan's glory and horror... >:3
Quote from: Terrion on March 16, 2009, 08:27:22 AM
(To be sung to the tune of "Hair" - more or less)
Okay, that made me giggle. I'm not sure the younger ones will get it though (and I only did because my parents were children of the 60s)...
EDIT:
"This was before they had sound regulations and it was so loud we couldn't make out what they were singing. They literally brought the house down, though - a couple of weeks later, the theatre collapsed."
--My father, describing the time he took my mother to see it
If you're going to abuse songs, I'm forced to reply with the following original lyrics (so not entirely fitting):
You'll take my life but I'll take yours too!
You'll fire your musket but I'll run you through!
So when you're waiting for the next attack,
you'd better stand there's no turning back!
I originally thought he'd broken the arm/wrist with a twist of the arms, but seems like the crack is from the wings cutting through the skin and the bone. That arm only has half the bone thickness at that point right now. o_o
And did anyone notice that the clan marking seems to have changed (to be precise: extended) in each of the 3 panels it featured in? As if it's manifesting its true shape rather quickly.
(Kria has completely lost all interest in this fight considering her bored look.)
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 08:17:19 AM
Quote from: Kenway975 on March 16, 2009, 08:12:40 AM
while it is known that magic has to be learned, Dan (due to Adventuring school and possibly before the incident (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php)) might know the concepts and basic techniques... but Dan has not practiced much if at all if his statement is correct.
I'm not convinced. He can pull swords out of thin air and was able to levitate rocks as a child. Even Dan, prejudiced as he is, would be able to see the use of a healing spell, in much the same way as he loved Abel's sword trick at SAIA.
Granted. But at the same time, sometimes I wonder if the pull the swords out of thin air is completely magical or not. While #707 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_701.php) shows warping in traits, and it is mentioned that her ability is similar to Dan's, #887 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_887.php) and #689 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_689.php) to me suggest that there is some component that is physical in which they hide on their person - note the "You can hide all sorts of things..." and the "They forgot to search me..." lines.
Also, if it was purely magical... wouldn't there have been at least a small hint of his marking? From what I understand from #551 (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_551.php) is that when a cubi uses magic, his/her clan marking becomes more visible. It's also, in my opinion, a count against him having much experience with healing spells. The fact that cubi don't usually get their clan marks until their magical powers increase to me indicates that very low levels of magic usage does not make the mark appear. That would allow for levitation of rocks, warping of weapons if you have an appropriate focus, and minor healing. Minor as akin to comparing the height of a jump due to surprise and that of a standing high jumps or that of a pole vaulter.
And thank you for the welcome, Tapewolf
That's one way to disarm your opponent, ouch. Judging from DP's scream, if that arm wasn't lopped off entirely, it's going to be more or less useless now.
Curiouser and curiouser. The wing guillotine attack is obviously not magical, so I wonder what else Dan is doing; it's gotta be hard to multitask with someone's thumb buried in your chest.
Edit: Judging from DP's passionate scream, I think it can be said that Dan just rolled a critical strike. ^.^
Dan's rage has set off Berserker mode, in which he will become like Eva Unit 1 and start eating DP's carcass after he rips his face off. :3
On another note, I read Mab's mini-rant. So death is associated with blood loss, eh? What do you know!
Quote from: Hellcat on March 16, 2009, 12:37:43 AMyou know... I actually am starting to dislike Lorenda... She just so un demon like.
She went through a rebellious peace-loving phase, remember? She doesn't have the full demon mindset.
Couple things I figure I should mention:
For those who seem to think Dan keeps getting power-ups from all the pain going around, keep in mind Dan has pretty much always been passively emotional feeding. While he's likely getting some sort of rush, its more in the sense he's passively absorbing emotions he's affined to rather than say, passively absorbing ones he is not. Dan's not a sponge, and even if he was he likely would have needed to train to learn how to effectively absorb emotions. (Just because something comes naturally to someone, it doesnt mean mastering it comes along as well)
In regards to the blood: I actually attempted to do a bit of research on things and as someone pointed out, the fact there is a large claw (and now Dan's wingblades) blocking the path...there isn't as insane a bloodflow yet. Granted I could be very wrong on the matter because I'll honestly admit I don't know a whole lot of how blood physics works. But I did know enough to avoid overzelous blood fountains. The way I figure, the blood is an unfortunate bi-product of having to draw a full out slashing fight. It shouldn't be the focus.
Thirdly. I feel I should mention that there is more to using ones energy reserves than simply just casting magic spells. Granted magic is the most flashy and obvious and taxing of the two, but the simple matter in this is that Dan's sort of overclocking his own energy reserves by keeping up the tentacles and the fighting full force. And well...if Dan's own energy fails him, it's only natural that subconciously he would begin to outsource a secondary energy supply.
*skitters off into the night*
Oh! Oh! DP! I know Dans weakness! Feed him shellfish! No feathers = no wing-tentacles! :D
Quote from: Akisohida on March 16, 2009, 11:52:12 AM
Oh! Oh! DP! I know Dans weakness! Feed him shellfish! No feathers = no wing-tentacles! :D
Actually, isn't that what Devin's bringing? Though for that to work, they'd have to break the duel-to-the-death for lunch.
Kria: "ENOUGH! Devin brought lunch." :mowhappy
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: Akisohida on March 16, 2009, 11:52:12 AM
Oh! Oh! DP! I know Dans weakness! Feed him shellfish! No feathers = no wing-tentacles! :D
Actually, isn't that what Devin's bringing? Though for that to work, they'd have to break the duel-to-the-death for lunch.
No, it just looks like sushi, unless I missed an ingredient. It could just be salmon.
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 16, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
Couple things I figure I should mention:
For those who seem to think Dan keeps getting power-ups from all the pain going around, keep in mind Dan has pretty much always been passively emotional feeding. While he's likely getting some sort of rush, its more in the sense he's passively absorbing emotions he's affined to rather than say, passively absorbing ones he is not. Dan's not a sponge, and even if he was he likely would have needed to train to learn how to effectively absorb emotions. (Just because something comes naturally to someone, it doesnt mean mastering it comes along as well)
In regards to the blood: I actually attempted to do a bit of research on things and as someone pointed out, the fact there is a large claw (and now Dan's wingblades) blocking the path...there isn't as insane a bloodflow yet. Granted I could be very wrong on the matter because I'll honestly admit I don't know a whole lot of how blood physics works. But I did know enough to avoid overzelous blood fountains. The way I figure, the blood is an unfortunate bi-product of having to draw a full out slashing fight. It shouldn't be the focus.
Thirdly. I feel I should mention that there is more to using ones energy reserves than simply just casting magic spells. Granted magic is the most flashy and obvious and taxing of the two, but the simple matter in this is that Dan's sort of overclocking his own energy reserves by keeping up the tentacles and the fighting full force. And well...if Dan's own energy fails him, it's only natural that subconciously he would begin to outsource a secondary energy supply.
*skitters off into the night*
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. So, the headaches he was getting right before and after his headwings came in were more from his telepathy starting to kick in in addition to his empathy? And total agreement on the difference between natural skill and mastery.
So, first thing Dan should worry about is closing that wound right quick. That claw's gonna come out soon, and then he'll be in trouble.
And the energy reserves makes sense. As for out-sourcing his energy, I have but one thing to say:
Bum-bum-buuuuum!Quote from: Draken on March 16, 2009, 12:10:10 PM
Kria: "ENOUGH! Devin brought lunch." :mowhappy
"Death feuds can wait. You can't kill each other on an empty stomach!"
Quote from: jeffh4 on March 16, 2009, 05:36:08 AM
On an unrelated note, I'm hereby claiming the no-prize for furthest away posting. I'm typing this from the Base Library of Downtown Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
Hm. Somebody get me a map, and where we're counting 'furthest away' from.
Quote from: ishidan on March 16, 2009, 01:01:07 PM
Quote from: jeffh4 on March 16, 2009, 05:36:08 AM
On an unrelated note, I'm hereby claiming the no-prize for furthest away posting. I'm typing this from the Base Library of Downtown Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
Hm. Somebody get me a map, and where we're counting 'furthest away' from.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Of course, being in the UK means i'm not going to win, anyway, and it certainly takes points for being an out-of-the-way place, but still, I'd have thought there are further places...
Quote from: ishidan on March 16, 2009, 01:01:07 PMQuote from: jeffh4 on March 16, 2009, 05:36:08 AM
On an unrelated note, I'm hereby claiming the no-prize for furthest away posting. I'm typing this from the Base Library of Downtown Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
Hm. Somebody get me a map, and where we're counting 'furthest away' from.
From Amber perhaps? If so, it's hard to decide who lives further away unless we find out which city she lives. Canada is a big place. The shortest distance between me and any location in Canada is 8000km, and the longest is 12500km
I'm only guessing, but I think from the weather descriptions she's given she's either in the Toronto Area or the Ottawa area. Though her weather descriptions aren't much to go on.
OOH! This mean we gonna search out where she lives? Cool!
In any case, I'm in Texas, so Canada is far but not as far for ya'll apparently.
OK, we all know there will be a tussel between DP and Dan, and probably not gonna be stopped any time soon. Question is, will the magic that's building up in dan ear DP to shreds, or just get DP away from him? OR will it be a major healing spell?
Also, given that we do not see Regina here at all, and that we saw her rubbing her muzzle earlier, is it possible she already skedaddled without our knowing?
Lasly, where's Fi? All that screaming and charging and stuff....Given that Dan's involved and he's connected, should he have dropped the platter by now and gotten help/stopped to watch the show?
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 16, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
But I did know enough to avoid overzelous blood fountains. The way I figure, the blood is an unfortunate bi-product of having to draw a full out slashing fight. It shouldn't be the focus.
Aww, but blood geysers are so much fun! Even better are blood tsunamis! :3
Quote from: Draken on March 16, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
OOH! This mean we gonna search out where she lives? Cool!
Erm, let's not get into a creepy "stalk the author" conversation.
Quote from: Draken on March 16, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
OK, we all know there will be a tussel between DP and Dan, and probably not gonna be stopped any time soon. Question is, will the magic that's building up in dan ear DP to shreds, or just get DP away from him? OR will it be a major healing spell?
From what Amber said earlier in the thread, it's most likely not a spell, but simply him drawing on magical energy to either keep fighting, or to augment his strength.
Quote from: Draken on March 16, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Also, given that we do not see Regina here at all, and that we saw her rubbing her muzzle earlier, is it possible she already skedaddled without our knowing?
It's possible.
Quote from: Draken on March 16, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Lasly, where's Fi? All that screaming and charging and stuff....Given that Dan's involved and he's connected, should he have dropped the platter by now and gotten help/stopped to watch the show?
He might not have even noticed, or he might've noticed and has already headed off to get Abel/help. Or it could be something else entirely.
Blood does not generally flow in fountains, yes, especially if you've still got the offending item in question buried in the wound. Which is why it's not always a good idea to take that knife out of your abdomen or the hatchet out of your leg until you get to the hospital. :B
As far as how blood does fountain, though, I've never had firsthand experience, so I don't know. I do know that arterial wounds are very nasty, very hard to staunch, and much more serious than it's portrayed in movies.
If there is a place where blood might fountain, one might think it'd be a direct wound to the heart - but then, maybe not. For what it's worth, I think the restrained use of the blood so far has added a bit of realism and class to the last few comics. A drop catches the eye easier than a bucket, methinks.
Quote from: Cogidubnus on March 16, 2009, 02:49:10 PM
I think the restrained use of the blood so far has added a bit of realism and class to the last few comics. A drop catches the eye easier than a bucket, methinks.
Just don't catch the drop with your eye. Leave that to the bucket.
Ooh ooh! I has a theory!
What if DP actually likes Dan? Maybe he's giving hints and tips so that Dan will become more powerful.
Random theory man, away! *Fwish*
Unless the thumb managed to punch all the way to the left pulmonary artery. Dan spouting blood from his chest isn't likely. He might bleed a bit, though.
Quote from: Ink on March 16, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
Unless the thumb managed to punch all the way to the left pulmonary artery. Dan spouting blood from his chest isn't likely. He might bleed a bit, though.
Even if DP or Dan managed to slice through an artery (much more likely in Dan's case against DP), you will not see a large amount of outer bleeding present until the object making the cut has been cleared from the wound. Its one of the reasons they tell people who have been stabbed in the heart (or some other particularly vital spot) not to remove the object that stabbed them, as they will bleed out. As of right now, most of the bleeding as it is, would be internal.
Quote from: Seth on March 16, 2009, 04:04:34 PM
Ooh ooh! I has a theory!
What if DP actually likes Dan? Maybe he's giving hints and tips so that Dan will become more powerful.
Random theory man, away! *Fwish*
No offense, but I really, really hope not. Especially since the whole crush thing would probably be dead after Dan interfered with his plans and killed him the first time.
Okay, so we aren't likely to see "super sayajin" or "multi-tailed demon form" Ti'Fiona from all of the pain being broadcats in the immediate area. Still, it's been implied from the follow-up results of Dan's last battle that he can use such pain to heal fatal injuries.
Granted, that would probably work a lot better if he was both resting and not actively receiving such damage while he's trying to repair it...
It may be late but I can now see where Kira got the idea that Lorenda wanted to assist in the mutual killing.
Quote from: Lorenda
Mom! They're going to kill each other! We have to help them!
Quote from: Kira
We do? But they are killing each other just fine on their own.
Now if Lorenda replaced help with stop then the confusion could have been avoided. Interesting choice of words to use in this situation, especially while your talking to Kira.
Though one would wonder what Lorenda intended to say... Maybe in the back of her mind she wants to kill both Aliph and Dan.
I must say - I really enjoy the blocking of this fight scene, and I'm quite on the edge of my seat. I really am wondering what is going to happen to Dan.
Honestly I really think he's going to get his butt kicked...but it'll be a great fight. Maybe enough to make DP respect him or something.
-Seth
going back to the whole blood fountain/geyser thing... there are 7 areas i know of that will cause that kind of effect, the problem is, is that the spray will last for all of a few seconds before the victim is put into a state of shock... thus slowed everything, including blood flow... slower blood flow, less pressure, less pressure, no more fountain... another thing about these spots, it has to be done in a way that the flow is directed through a narrow opening... if DP had claws that were like a pin, or a needle, we might see a fountain, as the arteries around the heart do have that kind of pressure... but the claws i'm seeing appear to be more curved, and designed for slashing... chances are it'll be a rather nasty spewing, rather than a hollywood style fountain...
though, given the estimated depth of penetration, we could see some cast off from DP if he retracts fast enough...
anyways... now that i'm sure i've throughly terrified everyone, let me explain that my knowledge of the human body comes from taking classes to become an EMT so i can get a decent job once i head on to med school... part of being an EMT is to assess a situation, and choose the best course of action... getting stabbed, if the weapon is still in the wound, leave it, and if your capable, taping it in place can actually save your life
I wonder if DP is going to fall on top of Dan, as that arm is not going to be supporting his weight anymore. Just in time for Fi and Devin to come in and think some very bad Shonen-Ai is going on. :erk
Quote from: Seth C Triggs on March 16, 2009, 06:31:27 PM
I must say - I really enjoy the blocking of this fight scene, and I'm quite on the edge of my seat. I really am wondering what is going to happen to Dan.
I'm glad we break on this one. If Amber had stopped on the previous page, the suspense would have been intolerable :B
QuoteHonestly I really think he's going to get his butt kicked...but it'll be a great fight. Maybe enough to make DP respect him or something.
I'm not sure it works that way. I think DP only respects him if
his butt gets kicked. Besides which, Dan getting his butt kicked (while being greatly aggravating for those of us who want to see him in successful adventurer mode) isn't really an option if it's left up to DP. The only way that can happen IMHO is if someone else intervenes.
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on March 16, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
I wonder if DP is going to fall on top of Dan, as that arm is not going to be supporting his weight anymore. Just in time for Fi and Devin to come in and think some very bad Shonen-Ai is going on. :erk
Bad! Bad!
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on March 16, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
I wonder if DP is going to fall on top of Dan, as that arm is not going to be supporting his weight anymore. Just in time for Fi and Devin to come in and think some very bad Shonen-Ai is going on. :erk
Bad Shadowcatcher, bad. No more San Widler books for you.
Quote from: Seth on March 16, 2009, 04:04:34 PM
What if DP actually likes Dan? Maybe he's giving hints and tips so that Dan will become more powerful.
I doubt it. However, I have been thinking that our Black Beauty could be as tired of the resurrection carousel as Kria seems to be. He could secretly be wanting to lose and hoping that Dan will do a proper job of it this time. (Proper job as in eating, I mean burning the body)
Quote from: Madmann135 on March 16, 2009, 07:29:26 PM
Quote from: Shadowcatcher on March 16, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
I wonder if DP is going to fall on top of Dan, as that arm is not going to be supporting his weight anymore. Just in time for Fi and Devin to come in and think some very bad Shonen-Ai is going on. :erk
Bad Shadowcatcher, bad. No more San Widler books for you.
I'm a nictusune, gotta fulfill my RDA of evil doing for the day.
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 16, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
Couple things I figure I should mention:
For those who seem to think Dan keeps getting power-ups from all the pain going around, keep in mind Dan has pretty much always been passively emotional feeding. While he's likely getting some sort of rush, its more in the sense he's passively absorbing emotions he's affined to rather than say, passively absorbing ones he is not. Dan's not a sponge, and even if he was he likely would have needed to train to learn how to effectively absorb emotions. (Just because something comes naturally to someone, it doesnt mean mastering it comes along as well)
In regards to the blood: I actually attempted to do a bit of research on things and as someone pointed out, the fact there is a large claw (and now Dan's wingblades) blocking the path...there isn't as insane a bloodflow yet. Granted I could be very wrong on the matter because I'll honestly admit I don't know a whole lot of how blood physics works. But I did know enough to avoid overzelous blood fountains. The way I figure, the blood is an unfortunate bi-product of having to draw a full out slashing fight. It shouldn't be the focus.
Thirdly. I feel I should mention that there is more to using ones energy reserves than simply just casting magic spells. Granted magic is the most flashy and obvious and taxing of the two, but the simple matter in this is that Dan's sort of overclocking his own energy reserves by keeping up the tentacles and the fighting full force. And well...if Dan's own energy fails him, it's only natural that subconciously he would begin to outsource a secondary energy supply.
*skitters off into the night*
So !KCA was right, in some sense.
Quote from: !KCA on March 15, 2009, 06:21:04 AM
Dan calls upon his deepest reserves for the strength to win this fight.
. . .And Cyra answers.
Dan has been draining his energy reserves, with all the aggressive shapeshifting he's been doing. The energy he's been getting from the emotional context hasn't been enough to match his output, so it just slows down the drain rate. Here is where one of the advantages to being part of a powerful clan with a living founder comes in, he has an external reserves to tap. And it makes sense that this could manifest his clan mark.
Devin and Fi are upstairs, far enough away from the fight that Dan's screaming and attacking the door were misinterpreted as a malfunctioning dryer. Aliph's scream of pain might come through a little clearer. But they've got to go down a circular staircase and then down a long corridor to get to the fight. And the fight is happening
fast. Even if they rush, it could be three for four strips before they arrive. Odds are by the time they do arrive, the fight will be settled, unless some dialogue starts between Dan and Aliph.
And remember, Aliph has just been resurrected, blown open a door, make his "audacity" speech, and then gets attacked by Dan. He hasn't had a chance to start any plans, and Dan knows what his plan is, it's the same plan DP has been trying the last two times Dan stopped him. Commenting on Dan's overly emotional attack, and his new Cubi characteristics, is the only subject handy.
Quote from: Basilisk2150 on March 16, 2009, 06:32:20 PM
anyways... now that i'm sure i've throughly terrified everyone, let me explain that my knowledge of the human body comes from taking classes to become an EMT so i can get a decent job once i head on to med school... part of being an EMT is to assess a situation, and choose the best course of action... getting stabbed, if the weapon is still in the wound, leave it, and if your capable, taping it in place can actually save your life
I believe I just said this :< Stop stealing my thundahs >.< *stabbities*
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 16, 2009, 08:21:36 PM
Devin and Fi are upstairs, far enough away from the fight that Dan's screaming and attacking the door were misinterpreted as a malfunctioning dryer. Aliph's scream of pain might come through a little clearer.
What is likely to have happened while Kria and Lorenda have been watching Dan trying to break open the invincible door and so on is that Devin will be attempting to deliver the refreshments to an empty room. The room does however contain ripped clothes on the floor which Fi may recognise, and bits of glass and blood in the doorway. Of course, they won't know where to go, but it's liable to make them a bit more alert for unusual things like screams of sheer agony.
As you say it might take them a while to get there, though Kria and Lorenda seem to have walked sedately downstairs while Dan was chasing Regina and still got there in time to witness the fight.
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 16, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
In regards to the blood: I actually attempted to do a bit of research on things and as someone pointed out, the fact there is a large claw (and now Dan's wingblades) blocking the path...there isn't as insane a bloodflow yet. Granted I could be very wrong on the matter because I'll honestly admit I don't know a whole lot of how blood physics works. But I did know enough to avoid overzelous blood fountains. The way I figure, the blood is an unfortunate bi-product of having to draw a full out slashing fight. It shouldn't be the focus.
No, you're right. The time a knife wound bleeds the most is when the knife is actually removed.
I LEARNED THIS FROM PHOENIX WRIGHT! :3
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 16, 2009, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: Amber Williams on March 16, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
In regards to the blood: I actually attempted to do a bit of research on things and as someone pointed out, the fact there is a large claw (and now Dan's wingblades) blocking the path...there isn't as insane a bloodflow yet. Granted I could be very wrong on the matter because I'll honestly admit I don't know a whole lot of how blood physics works. But I did know enough to avoid overzelous blood fountains. The way I figure, the blood is an unfortunate bi-product of having to draw a full out slashing fight. It shouldn't be the focus.
No, you're right. The time a knife wound bleeds the most is when the knife is actually removed.
I LEARNED THIS FROM PHOENIX WRIGHT! :3
"APPROVAL!" :U
I seem to recall an episode of Fearless Fosdick in which the issue of not removing the penetrating object played a major role. (Fearless Fosdick was a comic within a comic that appeared in Lil Abner by Al Capp.) Fearless Fosdick was stabbed with an extremely valuable antique knife, and removing the knife would have killed him. However, for the sake of duty, he was willing to remove the knife so that it could be returned to the proper owners. However, before he could kill himself by removing the knife, he was shot in a gun battle where the bullet knocked the knife loose and plugged the wound at the same time. In this way, he survived the return of the knife to the owners.
This was probably one of the more "normal" episodes of Fearless Fosdick.
Hello. I am another lurker, and sadly, I don't really see myself doing very much here. Maybe if the site was easier to navigate, maybe if Amber updated with every other day pauses instead of all at once, maybe if I didn't have to use a proxy to get around the filter, then just maybe I would comment on the forum for my 2nd favorite (after Darths and Droids) webcomic often. I find it hilarious, but honestly, the bad outweighs the good. So, anyways...
Is the common assumption that Dan is charging up a spell? And that once it happens, it will presumably explode and blast Dark Pegasus off of him? Because the Blue Eyes and Clan marking showing seem exactly like the classic video game power charge up. Samus did a similar thing with her freeze beam, right? You hold down the button and she starts to glow blue. I know that other characters do this. Can anyone remember a couple for me?
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
As you say it might take them a while to get there, though Kria and Lorenda seem to have walked sedately downstairs while Dan was chasing Regina and still got there in time to witness the fight.
Yes, but Dan spent an unknown (to us) amount of time trying to get into the sealed room, the fight didn't start until after Aliph was resurrected. However long that took (plus time for Regina to decide to do it) gave Kria and Lorenda more than enough time to arrive.
If Devin can recognize Aliph's scream (maybe he always has that odd voice right after being resurrected) then he'll know where to go. And probably at a run.
Quote from: N-Cat on March 16, 2009, 10:58:46 PM
Hello. I am another lurker, and sadly, I don't really see myself doing very much here. Maybe if the site was easier to navigate, maybe if Amber updated with every other day pauses instead of all at once, maybe if I didn't have to use a proxy to get around the filter, then just maybe I would comment on the forum for my 2nd favorite (after Darths and Droids) webcomic often. I find it hilarious, but honestly, the bad outweighs the good. So, anyways...
Is the common assumption that Dan is charging up a spell? And that once it happens, it will presumably explode and blast Dark Pegasus off of him? Because the Blue Eyes and Clan marking showing seem exactly like the classic video game power charge up. Samus did a similar thing with her freeze beam, right? You hold down the button and she starts to glow blue. I know that other characters do this. Can anyone remember a couple for me?
From what Amber said on this thread, Dan's charging up himself. He's now drawing on his clan founder (and/or other clan members) for energy to keep up the furious pace he's at. Thus his clan mark is finally manifesting. The kind of combat shapechanging he's doing, while less draining than spells, is still using up energy faster than he can absorb it.
As he gets older and better trained, it may be that the depth of his reserves and the rate he can absorb energy will increase. It's a logical supposition, anyway. I suppose that in time we'll see.
Will we see other comics use the Aliph Scream? :)
With regards,
Ted
Hi sorry about posting in the wrong frame before, all I had to say was my two cents worth about DP, but please anybody know if Amber has another update before her rest time or will there be two or three days before her next update, I have lost tract of her updates
First I went "buh?", then I went "lol".
Quote from: foxxfurry on March 17, 2009, 01:24:37 AM
Hi sorry about posting in the wrong frame before, all I had to say was my two cents worth about DP, but please anybody know if Amber has another update before her rest time or will there be two or three days before her next update, I have lost tract of her updates
Posting in the wrong thread is just one of those things that happens. Don't keep apologising, just pay attention and don't do it again. ;-]
As for Amber's posting schedule, she's on her weekend now. Next scheduled update is in approximately 40-44 hours, give or take a bit (I'm usually asleep when she updates, so I'm not sure of the exact time)
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 16, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
From what Amber said on this thread, Dan's charging up himself. He's now drawing on his clan founder (and/or other clan members) for energy to keep up the furious pace he's at.
In effect he's in a sort of overload condition. As for drawing on Cyra's power, I wonder if she knows? If it's like a server and you can see who's gobbling up all the bandwidth?
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 05:21:51 AM
In effect he's in a sort of overload condition. As for drawing on Cyra's power, I wonder if she knows? If it's like a server and you can see who's gobbling up all the bandwidth?
You keep referring to Cyra as "she" - I know the wiki states that Cyra is a Succubus, but it fails to provide any reference for that information. Is there something you know that the rest of us don't?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 05:36:50 AM
You keep referring to Cyra as "she" - I know the wiki states that Cyra is a Succubus, but it fails to provide any reference for that information. Is there something you know that the rest of us don't?
There's a picture floating around (which someone has now forwarded to me) and unless it's no longer canon, she's either a succubus or an incubus disguised as one. By the looks, it originally came from Amber's old 'adult art' gallery from way back. I've made a blurred-out version of it which is somewhat NSFW instead of totally so, but even so, posting it may be treading on thin ice. And I doubt Amber's particularly fond of it these days :P
EDIT:
The copyright date is apparently 2004, though it was obscured by the logo of some site which mirrored it.
So we see now how Dan stops DP from giving him a broken heart ...
I ACTUALLY WINCED AT THE SECOND PANEL. x -x
I have a question *and forgive me if it's already been asked* what the ressurection ceremony intales exactly? I mean for regina to do it in what I'm guessing is a minutes time it must be simple or mostly set up at this point by kria.
I also have another question adult gallery?
About the blood loss chances the wounds are superficial and/or some type of cubi ability/magic/evil horse magic quickly creates a blockage at the wound.
Quote from: silentassassin on March 17, 2009, 09:21:13 AM
I have a question *and forgive me if it's already been asked* what the ressurection ceremony intales exactly? I mean for regina to do it in what I'm guessing is a minutes time it must be simple or mostly set up at this point by kria.
No-one knows. I had assumed that it required Bigg's minions as a sacrifice, but Regina seems to have made it work somehow. I would guess that it was almost certainly set up by Kria in advance since Regina doesn't seem particularly competent.
QuoteI also have another question adult gallery?
http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_133.php
...before my time, I think.
Well I belive someone said 2004 so it is before my time atleast.
Quote from: silentassassin on March 17, 2009, 10:15:30 AM
Well I belive someone said 2004 so it is before my time atleast.
That would be the mature segment she had on VCL, which she has since taken down.
Vcl? What exactly is that?
It's a mature picture hosting site. Does it really matter, since her content isn't there any more anyway?
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 10:34:38 AM
It's a mature picture hosting site. Does it really matter, since her content isn't there any more anyway?
"Why you think the net was born...?"
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 10:34:38 AM
It's a mature picture hosting site. Does it really matter, since her content isn't there any more anyway?
Well excuse me I had no knowledge of the site hence why I raised the question in the first place.
I wonder if Dan is going to remember that he's able to randomly summon up swords at a moment's notice......
I'm also wondering what Abel's reaction is going to be when he sees both Dan's cubi marking after it's shown up, as well as seeing Devin, but that second one isn't likely to happen for a long time yet, soooo, we'll just have to wait!
I think Dan's gonna start wearing more shirts with sleeves on them once he realizes the clan marking is there. After the brief panic attack that happens when he realizes it's there.
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
I think Dan's gonna start wearing more shirts with sleeves on them once he realizes the clan marking is there. After the brief panic attack that happens when he realizes it's there.
You're probably right........... means that he'll probably totally stop wearing the former robe that Wildy gave him.
Either that or he might leave it there so that future baddies know that they have a reason to be worried when he goes off on adventures
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 11:34:27 AM
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
I think Dan's gonna start wearing more shirts with sleeves on them once he realizes the clan marking is there. After the brief panic attack that happens when he realizes it's there.
You're probably right........... means that he'll probably totally stop wearing the former robe that Wildy gave him.
Either that or he might leave it there so that future baddies know that they have a reason to be worried when he goes off on adventures
Or wear the robe over his shirt. You know, just a t-shirt would probably cover his clan marking.
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
I think Dan's gonna start wearing more shirts with sleeves on them once he realizes the clan marking is there. After the brief panic attack that happens when he realizes it's there.
Very much so. Abel is liable to ensure that ("You can't go out with
that there! People will recognise it! They'll kill you!").
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 11:26:34 AM
I'm also wondering what Abel's reaction is going to be when he sees both Dan's cubi marking after it's shown up
"Blaargh!" (http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_625.php).
Quoteas well as seeing Devin, but that second one isn't likely to happen for a long time yet, soooo, we'll just have to wait!
Dan gone psycho, a basement full of blood, Devin reborn but probably not remembering him, and Miss Soulstealer. I think it's going to be a day of surprises for him.
Welcome to the forum, by the way. Remember to read the rules, be good, have fun and so on and so forth.
Hadn't considered that
Oh, it's good too be here as well, thanks. Been reading the comic for a long time now, so I thought I might as well join
As for Abel? I keep getting the feeling he'd pass out if you introduced it all to him at once
I'll be good, I promise!
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 11:42:22 AM
I'll be good, I promise!
Good, I can go on with being lazy, then. ;-]
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 11:42:22 AM
I'll be good, I promise!
Good, I can go on with being lazy, then. ;-]
Lols. I've been on a forum site before, so I know the standard rules.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
I think Dan's gonna start wearing more shirts with sleeves on them once he realizes the clan marking is there. After the brief panic attack that happens when he realizes it's there.
Very much so. Abel is liable to ensure that ("You can't go out with that there! People will recognise it! They'll kill you!").
I'm not so sure. Abel goes out shirtless half the time, doesn't seem to mind people possibly noticing his own clan marker. He can probably pass along the tip of "just claim it's a tattoo."
Edit, although now that I look at the archive, Abel does tend to wear shirts when he goes outdoors. hmmm.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 17, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
I'm not so sure. Abel goes out shirtless half the time, doesn't seem to mind people possibly noticing his own clan marker. He can probably pass along the tip of "just claim it's a tattoo."
Very true, but Dan is a marked man (i.e. the dragons "will kill him as soon as they find out what clan he is") and Abel doesn't have an apparently notorious succubus for a mother.
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 17, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
Edit, although now that I look at the archive, Abel does tend to wear shirts when he goes outdoors. hmmm.
Yeah - I was thinking specifically of when he removed his shirt at the mall after the paint incident. He didn't take any pains over it then.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 17, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
I'm not so sure. Abel goes out shirtless half the time, doesn't seem to mind people possibly noticing his own clan marker. He can probably pass along the tip of "just claim it's a tattoo."
Very true, but Dan is a marked man (i.e. the dragons "will kill him as soon as they find out what clan he is") and Abel doesn't have an apparently notorious succubus for a mother.
Good point, Dan'll have to be careful
Then again, Pyroduck is likely to give him a quick tip on how to keep it covered if it's not just wearing a shirt with sleeves
Quote from: Corgatha Taldorthar on March 17, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
I think Dan's gonna start wearing more shirts with sleeves on them once he realizes the clan marking is there. After the brief panic attack that happens when he realizes it's there.
Very much so. Abel is liable to ensure that ("You can't go out with that there! People will recognise it! They'll kill you!").
I'm not so sure. Abel goes out shirtless half the time, doesn't seem to mind people possibly noticing his own clan marker. He can probably pass along the tip of "just claim it's a tattoo."
Edit, although now that I look at the archive, Abel does tend to wear shirts when he goes outdoors. hmmm.
Yeah. Abel is only shirtless in his pre-cubi days, at SAIA, and in the presence of people he knows. In public, he covers it up. It might suggest that he's a little bit self-conscious about it, or that he simply doesn't want to be bothered over it.
And in Dan's case, since it's a Cyra clan marking, he'll want to cover it up in case any of Ducky's cousins drop by...
EDIT: Half-ninja'ed!
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:56:38 AM
EDIT: Half-ninja'ed!
Since you may have missed the edit in response to Corg's edit:
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 11:55:13 AM
Yeah - I was thinking specifically of when he removed his shirt at the mall after the paint incident. He didn't take any pains over it then.
...I think it may be a full-ninja.
Yeah, didn't see that one.......
fair point
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 11:56:38 AM
EDIT: Half-ninja'ed!
Since you may have missed the edit in response to Corg's edit:
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 11:55:13 AM
Yeah - I was thinking specifically of when he removed his shirt at the mall after the paint incident. He didn't take any pains over it then.
...I think it may be a full-ninja.
Well... he might just wear a shirt because of decency. Or because he's trying to fit in. And given that Abel's clan is nearly gone, even other Cubi might pass it off as a tattoo of some kind.
I didn't realise Abel was one of the last members of his clan.....
forgive for asking, but do we know what happened?
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 12:11:40 PM
I didn't realise Abel was one of the last members of his clan.....
forgive for asking, but do we know what happened?
No. I imagine they're probably victims of the clan wars.
From his cast page: "It is known that Abel belongs to a now more or less extinct clan in that the surviving members are too fragmented and scattered to be an actual considered clan anymore."
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 12:13:24 PM
No. I imagine they're probably victims of the clan wars.
From his cast page: "It is known that Abel belongs to a now more or less extinct clan in that the surviving members are too fragmented and scattered to be an actual considered clan anymore."
I'm inclined to guess - and this is just a guess - that Fa'Lina may have enacted some terrible revenge on them.
Alternatively, she let them go, as an example of how things should be done.
Either is equally likely, and equally unpredictable.
Fair enough, just wondering
makes me wonder how few there are. The only two we know of are Abel and Aniz........ and Aniz isn't in the main story arc.
However, judging by thw 375 year gap that Fa'Lina enforced for his next child to be enrolled at SAIA, I get the feeling he might end up in the main comic
and then the problems might Really begin for poor old Abel
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 12:13:24 PM
No. I imagine they're probably victims of the clan wars.
From his cast page: "It is known that Abel belongs to a now more or less extinct clan in that the surviving members are too fragmented and scattered to be an actual considered clan anymore."
I'm inclined to guess - and this is just a guess - that Fa'Lina may have enacted some terrible revenge on them.
Alternatively, she let them go, as an example of how things should be done.
Either is equally likely, and equally unpredictable.
Considering Aniz's response here (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Ab_018.php), I'd say she let them go, but it could also be both. In retaliation for her clan being more or less wiped out, Fa'Lina in turn wiped out most of Aniz's plan, and then realized that she was doing nothing to stop the fighting and was just continuing the cycle of infighting between the Cubi clans, she let the rest of Aniz's clan go. Just a thought.
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
Fair enough, just wondering
makes me wonder how few there are. The only two we know of are Abel and Aniz........ and Aniz isn't in the main story arc.
However, judging by thw 375 year gap that Fa'Lina enforced for his next child to be enrolled at SAIA, I get the feeling he might end up in the main comic
and then the problems might Really begin for poor old Abel
Which - given that Amber said that both Regina and Abel would get their backstories told (and we just got Regina's) - is probably about the point that the rest of the cast will learn Abel's story. And then probably gang up on Aniz for being such a huge @$$hole.
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
makes me wonder how few there are. The only two we know of are Abel and Aniz........ and Aniz isn't in the main story arc.
Probably less than 20 if what the wiki says about clan sizes is accurate.
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 12:19:38 PM
Which - given that Amber said that both Regina and Abel would get their backstories told (and we just got Regina's) - is probably about the point that the rest of the cast will learn Abel's story. And then probably gang up on Aniz for being such a huge @$$hole.
Very Probably..... and although Aniz is about 800 years old now, he's still gonna have to watch out for an Angry Dan, judging by what we can see going on right now in the main comic
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 12:19:38 PM
Which - given that Amber said that both Regina and Abel would get their backstories told (and we just got Regina's) - is probably about the point that the rest of the cast will learn Abel's story. And then probably gang up on Aniz for being such a huge @$$hole.
Very Probably..... and although Aniz is about 800 years old now, he's still gonna have to watch out for an Angry Dan, judging by what we can see going on right now in the main comic
Or Jyrras and his "seed shooter (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_367.php)." Though I highly doubt we'll ever see that thing used on live entities: Jyrras will probably end up pulling it off to fight some combat machines or soul-animated suits of armor. You know, stuff that can't bleed.
Probably
makes me wonder.
Y'know how Devin has those cools arms of his now? I keep thinking Jyrras might accidently see them as being cybernetics of some kind instead of just plated bone
Quote from: Buhamet on March 17, 2009, 12:27:29 PM
Probably
makes me wonder.
Y'know how Devin has those cools arms of his now? I keep thinking Jyrras might accidently see them as being cybernetics of some kind instead of just plated bone
Well, to be fair, so did I. I think a few of us did, actually. I'm not so sure about that.
Come to think of it, do cybernetics exist on Furrae? They'd probably not be at a very advanced level if they did. Actually, they probably don't. Unless Jyrras has made some.
Judging by the tech level, it's unlikely there would be cybernetics THAT advanced........... unless Jy was comisisoned by Kria to have Devin act as a cybernetics test subject
Quote from: Jairus on March 17, 2009, 12:31:14 PM
Come to think of it, do cybernetics exist on Furrae? They'd probably not be at a very advanced level if they did. Actually, they probably don't. Unless Jyrras has made some.
Dunno if it's canon, but there was a strip which featured a drunken Dan and a robot (I think it was the one where Mab made the oven explode).
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Dunno if it's canon, but there was a strip which featured a drunken Dan and a robot (I think it was the one where Mab made the oven explode).
Probably canon, juding by the arc, but you never know.........
Well they could just be metallic parts enhanced by magic to give user control over them. Then again they a giant gryphon mech so I wouldn't put anything out.
Quote from: silentassassin on March 17, 2009, 12:54:45 PM
Well they could just be metallic parts enhanced by magic to give user control over them. Then again they a giant gryphon mech so I wouldn't put anything out.
That's most likely, since the undead basically live off natural magic
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 05:36:50 AM
You keep referring to Cyra as "she" - I know the wiki states that Cyra is a Succubus, but it fails to provide any reference for that information. Is there something you know that the rest of us don't?
For those who are curious, I've updated the wiki. Bear in mind that this picture may not even be canon any more, though!
Here's part of it:
http://dmfa.wikia.com/wiki/Image:04_Cyra.png
...the rest of it in is the associated wiki page (unless Amber says 'NO!', at which point it will be reverted). I've blurred it out a bit but it's still a case of 'view at your own discretion'.
Not bad, I'd been wondering what Cyra looked like
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 17, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
Dunno if it's canon, but there was a strip which featured a drunken Dan and a robot (I think it was the one where Mab made the oven explode).
I don't remember the strip number, but I do recall that it was an answer page to the question of why Jyrras does all the techno. So, probably not canon.
Hey, can anyone post all of the Adult section- LA DI DA DI DA! Wow... sorry about having to read my original post... I really didn't mean to sound like a freak. Weird part of the post deleted...LA DI DA DI DA!
Quote from: N-Cat on March 17, 2009, 08:08:36 PM
Hey, can anyone post all of the Adult section, uncensored?
I don't have it, I wouldn't post it all without Amber's consent if I did, and this is a PG section of the forum anyway.
IIRC one of the big reasons Amber took it down was because she thought it sucked anyway...
*stares at Cyra pic
Holy sh--- ! Dan's descended from HER?
I could not help to notice that Dan's mark doesn't really appear on him 24/7 like Abel's (Then again I might be so zetta slow on the debate but eh) but I found it odd. Was it covered up in his fur and it glows in a way under certain conditions (possible reason is explained in comic 528, I suppose) (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_528.php)
But it makes me wonder if other cubi markings can do that or is it just Dan's?
He hasn't had his marking visible until now, Arroyo.
Assuming you're talking about Dan, here, his mark has only just shown up. That's why you've not seen it before.
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 09:23:42 PM
He hasn't had his marking visible until now, Arroyo.
Assuming you're talking about Dan, here, his mark has only just shown up. That's why you've not seen it before.
Isn't that what I just said? o-o;
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on March 17, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
Isn't that what I just said? o-o;
Young 'Cubi only get their clan mark after they have cast sufficient spells, (or apparently used a sufficient quantity of magical energy anyway - the actual spellcasting bit is starting to look optional). It appears to be permanent thereafter and is the one thing a 'Cubi cannot hide by shapeshifting.
See also strip 550.
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on March 17, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 09:23:42 PM
He hasn't had his marking visible until now, Arroyo.
Assuming you're talking about Dan, here, his mark has only just shown up. That's why you've not seen it before.
Isn't that what I just said? o-o;
I believe he means that the mark itself didn't actually exist on Dan until this point. After this point it will show up 24/7. Thats what I've understood about all this, anyway.
EDIT: Beaten to it.
Well I believe it was said that since Dan hasn't used magic since he was like five it wouldn't appear.
Quote from: Teh_Hobo on March 17, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
Quote from: Arroyo Milori on March 17, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
Quote from: llearch n'n'daCorna on March 17, 2009, 09:23:42 PM
He hasn't had his marking visible until now, Arroyo.
Assuming you're talking about Dan, here, his mark has only just shown up. That's why you've not seen it before.
Isn't that what I just said? o-o;
I believe he means that the mark itself didn't actually exist on Dan until this point. After this point it will show up 24/7. Thats what I've understood about all this, anyway.
EDIT: Beaten to it.
Clan marks can be hidden by covering it with clothing (armor, whatever) but not by shape shifting.
Quote from: silentassassin on March 17, 2009, 10:45:26 PM
Well I believe it was said that since Dan hasn't used magic since he was like five it wouldn't appear.
...until he started using magic again. Apparently in
any form, not just conscious spell casting.
Quote from: Hellcat on March 17, 2009, 09:15:47 PM
*stares at Cyra pic
Holy sh--- ! Dan's descended from HER?
She could be tens of thousands of years old, so it's likely as not a somewhat distant relationship. Also from what I've heard, ascended 'Cubi can no longer reproduce so - assuming that she didn't ascend after founding her own line - I guess it's possible that Dan may be descended from one of her relatives or siblings or something... we don't really know enough about founding clans to know.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 18, 2009, 06:39:08 AM
Quote from: Hellcat on March 17, 2009, 09:15:47 PM
*stares at Cyra pic
Holy sh--- ! Dan's descended from HER?
She could be tens of thousands of years old, so it's likely as not a somewhat distant relationship. Also from what I've heard, ascended 'Cubi can no longer reproduce so - assuming that she didn't ascend after founding her own line - I guess it's possible that Dan may be descended from one of her relatives or siblings or something... we don't really know enough about founding clans to know.
Destania is over six thousand years old herself. As Tapewolf says, we simply don't know enough about founding clans to make informed guesses.
Wait, Destania is over 6,000 years old?!
Quote from: Buhamet on March 18, 2009, 02:51:42 PM
Wait, Destania is over 6,000 years old?!
Close, but no cigar:
http://clockworkmansion.com/forum/index.php/topic,1676.msg67227.html#msg67227
Whoa............ that old?
how should I put this........
"She's rather...... perky"
Many a 'cubi can be noted for their perky wingspans...
http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_869.php
i think i see Dan's Clan Symbol forming on his shoulder and i'm new and was wondering if someone can tell me where to get DMFA Avatars :mowninja
Quote from: wildylover443 on March 18, 2009, 03:09:54 PM
i think i see Dan's Clan Symbol forming on his shoulder and i'm new and was wondering if someone can tell me where to get DMFA Avatars :mowninja
Welcome aboard. Be sure to read the rules and follow them. The mods are about and they seem to like it when we do that. Fear the box, he's up to something.
As for DMFA avatars, afaik you're free to make your own as long as you cite the work as being by Amber Williams and not yourself. You might also be able to commission some work from the artists here, but they'll likely want their recognition too.
i want to know where i can get some Avatars and the ninja mow will be in all my post from now on :mowninja
Quote from: wildylover443 on March 18, 2009, 03:09:54 PM
i think i see Dan's Clan Symbol forming on his shoulder and i'm new and was wondering if someone can tell me where to get DMFA Avatars :mowninja
Also note that Wildy is based on a real person who does occasion the forums... she has on at least one occasion been a bit freaked out by people declaring their love for her counterpart in the comic :U
never knew that but i want to be with the comic Wildy in that universe and don't ask me to explain because it's long, complicated, and booooorrrring and tapewolf i know u from youtube i'm narutofan443 :mowninja
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 18, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: wildylover443 on March 18, 2009, 03:09:54 PM
i think i see Dan's Clan Symbol forming on his shoulder and i'm new and was wondering if someone can tell me where to get DMFA Avatars :mowninja
Also note that Wildy is based on a real person who does occasion the forums... she has on at least one occasion been a bit freaked out by people declaring their love for her counterpart in the comic :U
I didn't want to say anything about that either, but yeah. That's kinda creepy.
alright i will atleast change my signature :mowninja
I've noticed them on here, and in all honesty, it didn't surprise me........
I've seen Wildy, Azlan and Ink so far
Most of them have been here since the old forums if I recall correctly and even back as far as Furcadia, where this all started. They're the actual people who the characters in the comic are based on.
Forget What was here before because i now realize what your talking about :mowninja
Quote from: Buhamet on March 18, 2009, 03:35:32 PM
I've noticed them on here, and in all honesty, it didn't surprise me........
I've seen Wildy, Azlan and Ink so far
I've seen Azlan, and I MIGHT have seen Ink, but I don't remember seeing Wildy....
Quote from: Baal Hadad on March 18, 2009, 03:51:40 PM
I've seen Azlan, and I MIGHT have seen Ink, but I don't remember seeing Wildy....
All three are active forum members. While I don't remember seeing Wildy lately either, it looks like she was logged in yesterday. Aary occasionally turns up too, and Merlitz has also been around once or twice.
And WL443? Could you do us a favour and read the rules again, because I'm not 100% convinced you did >:3 Also, don't go too mad with the ninja mow or it may get removed...
Getting sort of vaguely back on topic, Destania is currently 7026 years old, and interestingly SAIA is supposedly around 7000 years old too, which would make her one of the first students. I don't have a primary source for that figure, though.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 18, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Getting sort of vaguely back on topic, Destania is currently 7026 years old, and interestingly SAIA is supposedly around 7000 years old too, which would make her one of the first students. I don't have a primary source for that figure, though.
And what a perky figure it is... err.. I mean...wingspan. Perky wingspan.
lols
if Destania was one of the first students, then I wonder if there were any other teachers at that point other than Fa'Lina
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 18, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Also, don't go too mad with the ninja mow or it may get removed...
In this person'a defence, Lysander puts a little januscat at the end of every one of his posts. As long as WL doesn't put more than one, (s)he should be fine.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on March 18, 2009, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 18, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Also, don't go too mad with the ninja mow or it may get removed...
In this person'a defence, Lysander puts a little januscat at the end of every one of his posts. As long as WL doesn't put more than one, (s)he should be fine.
I'm a he and i am also going to alternate between cookie mows :mowcookie
Back onto some kind of subject, does anyone think thatthere really is some kind of edward-aniz secret thing or not, because I'm not convinced
are u talking about another web comic cause i don't know those names and if they are from the comic i guess i'll read through the archive again :mowcookie
no, I'm talking about both comic arcs, Abel's story and the main comic
ok i'll read through both again this weekend :mowninja
Quote from: wildylover443 on March 18, 2009, 05:47:13 PM
are u talking about another web comic cause i don't know those names and if they are from the comic i guess i'll read through the archive again :mowcookie
Edward Ti'Fiona is Dan's father and Aniz is Abel's father... there's a forum theory going on that they could actually be the same person, and another theory of Edward having killed Aniz... I'm not so convinced by either...
Quote from: Lowde on March 18, 2009, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: wildylover443 on March 18, 2009, 05:47:13 PM
are u talking about another web comic cause i don't know those names and if they are from the comic i guess i'll read through the archive again :mowcookie
Edward Ti'Fiona is Dan's father as Aniz is Abel's father... there's a forum theory going on that they could actually be the same person, and another theory of Edward having killed Aniz... I'm not so convinced by either...
ok thanks
MOW BATTLE TO THE DEATH
:mowcookie :mowninja
WINNER: :mowcookie
It's more likely that Ed killed Aniz, in my opinion, but there could be other reasons why Abel would have reason to be annoyed by hearing that name
also, while mow emoticons are fun, you shouldn't go overboard with them
Quote from: Buhamet on March 18, 2009, 05:59:24 PM
also, while mow emoticons are fun, you shouldn't go overboard with them
:mowtongue PHHT
out of interest, wl443, where are you in reading the comic?
Quote from: Lowde on March 18, 2009, 05:51:37 PM
Edward Ti'Fiona is Dan's father and Aniz is Abel's father... there's a forum theory going on that they could actually be the same person...
I want this theory to die so hard, because it keeps coming up on the slimmest of possibilities. But most regulars know my perception of the regular wild mass guessing they do, so I'm just going to go and wander off again.
*runs off, waving a radar over his head.*
Quote from: Buhamet on March 18, 2009, 06:19:19 PM
out of interest, wl443, where are you in reading the comic?
I've Read through it all (but it has been awhile sense my last read through) and are with the fight between Dan and D.P. :mowninja
ok, just checking
aaaaand Janus, I share your hatred, if it's not too strong a word, about the theory............. because it just sound stupid and like a lame get out cause for something
Quote from: Janus Whitefurr on March 18, 2009, 06:21:43 PM
I want this theory to die so hard, because it keeps coming up on the slimmest of possibilities.
This will sound bizarre coming from someone who is one of the main exponents of the theory, but in a funny sort of way,
I do too. Having it settled one way or the other would allow us to draw the line, but it doesn't want to be disproved and unfortunately, it's against my principles to bury it myself. I have been trying to keep the discussion of it down - or at least away from the main threads - though arguably I'm not doing a particularly
good job of that.
Maybe I should offer a paypal award to anyone who can positively disprove it to my satisfaction or something :B
Quote from: Buhamet on March 18, 2009, 06:26:08 PM
it just sound stupid and like a lame get out cause for something
Then why in gods' names did you bring it up? :U
"It sounds stupid" would be an argument I might accept against Devin being brought back as an undead, though. If someone had proposed that to me, I'd have written it off as silly wishful thinking. I guess, if we take anything away from that, it's that even improbable things are still possible, and that Occam's Razor doesn't work too well against DMFA.
Quote from: techmaster-glitch on March 18, 2009, 04:17:07 PM
In this person'a defence, Lysander puts a little januscat at the end of every one of his posts. As long as WL doesn't put more than one, (s)he should be fine.
The januscat is probably subtle enough to get away with it. I hadn't noticed. The Mow is more conspicuous. Honestly? It's not something I'd do, but I can see it irritating Damaris or Darkmoon and that's not something we really want to have happen.
ok and i just want to say that i like this forum a lot better then the other one i'm apart of
o and :shapeshifters
just thought i would remind u all
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 05:08:26 AM
One thing that disturbs me about this strip is that Regina isn't there. She needs to be taken out so she can't interfere.
I do think she is still recovering from the concussion she just recieved.
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 16, 2009, 05:44:45 AM
Healing, one would hope. That's the sort of basic magic that even an Adventurer should learn.
I doubt he has learnt magic, else his clan symbol would have shown up sooner. Considering he had 3 years of running on nothing but emotions[Surviving on ale, too], I would say that he is either about to cast a spell out of instinct[like a Fae would] or seriously rip Aliph to pieces. On another note, in the image I shall provide herein, you shall see that Dan made a knife-edge with his wings. The crunch is likely Aliph losing his forearm bones. Dan apparently did learn from Abel's shapeshifting class.
Aliph seems to have greater strength though, in terms of muscles.
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4184/vol983post.png)
On the note of blood, that would strike near to where a lot of the blood goes to and comes from: The heart. However, blood is already under pressure, and being pushed towards something. Hence it's more of a gushing enless the slice is very fine, and even then the platelets would patch that up rather quickly. It's more of a "Oh good God it's pouring out like a faucet!". I accidently ripped my thumb open with an exacto knife. Even though there were few blood vessals, it took quite a lot of tissue and band-aid to stop the bleeding and get enough pressure to stop it.[Pressure stops the bleeding because, again, vessals are under pressure, and there is a distinct change in pressure between the vessals in the air, mainly a distinct lack.]
I hope this sorts stuff out, but I'm only a high school student who aces state testing. Take everything with a bit of salt.
On the subject of Dan's Father and Abel's Father:
Abel knows his dad. He knows Destania, too, and my guess is he would know if they are brothers.
On top of that, how would clans work out?
didn't have to tell us of your experience *shudders* :mowsad
Quote from: rakyth on March 18, 2009, 07:17:34 PM
Abel knows his dad. He knows Destania, too, and my guess is he would know if they are brothers.
He might. Look back at the SAIA arc.
Two things spring to mind - firstly, Abel - who has driven his roommates insane - actually seems to be
looking out for Dan. He went really mad when Ink sent Dan catatonic. The rest of his treatment seems to be a little harsh at times, but everything he has done (however badly it may have worked out) has been for Dan's express benefit. The baseball bat is the only one out-of-place and that appears to have been a miscalculation since he thought Dan would know and block it.
Secondly, Fa'Lina told Abel something that forced him to leave the Academy, against his wishes. We do not know what it was.
QuoteOn top of that, how would clans work out?
The most powerful clan (Cyra) comes out on top.
ummm who's ink i don't remember him for some reason
and :noobrape o wait that's me...
NO!! STAY AWAY!! AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 18, 2009, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: rakyth on March 18, 2009, 07:17:34 PM
Abel knows his dad. He knows Destania, too, and my guess is he would know if they are brothers.
He might. Look back at the SAIA arc.
Two things spring to mind - firstly, Abel - who has driven his roommates insane - actually seems to be looking out for Dan. He went really mad when Ink sent Dan catatonic. The rest of his treatment seems to be a little harsh at times, but everything he has done (however badly it may have worked out) has been for Dan's express benefit. The baseball bat is the only one out-of-place and that appears to have been a miscalculation since he thought Dan would know and block it.
Secondly, Fa'Lina told Abel something that forced him to leave the Academy, against his wishes. We do not know what it was.
QuoteOn top of that, how would clans work out?
The most powerful clan (Cyra) comes out on top.
Big brother thing going on?
Ink is the ..doctor...tester person with the giant needle at Saia. Fit for a Gryffon C, the needle is.
Yeah, the fact that she sent Abel out with him might be a clue that she knows, too. I think the ban lifted right around the time Dan was born, ya?
She might be protecting him against others who know Destania, too, and it could be that she needed an experienced Cubi and Abel was close.
Thanks for telling me about the clan thing. I hope Abel's mom turns out okay, I liked her a lot.
ok and how much do u like her :mowwink
Characters on a scale of likingness, from greatest to least:
Abel
Matilda
Lorenda
Pip
Abel's mom
Jyrras
Kria
Fi
Alexsi
Dan
Azlan
DP
Heading towards neutral.
Mab
Fluffy
Aaryanna
Neutral.
Biggs
Aliyka
Regina
Devin
Pyroduck
Merlitz
Hate.
Wildy
Sorry Wildy.
HOW DARE YOU!! A smiley gets hung :lynched
and a mow is get baked in a oven all because of you
Wildylover443, this is your one and only warning.
Every second post on this page has been from you. This is NOT a chatroom. If you want a chatroom, go find one somewhere else. This is a forum. That means everyone gets equal time to talk. Not, everyone gets to talk to you.
I'd be less concerned if there was some content worth reading in your posts, but so far, they have all been either one-liners or one-liners with smileys.
I can and will revoke your rights to use smileys due to abuse. I've done it before, I can add you to the list. I can and will revoke your rights to post. Heck, I can and will revoke your rights to even read the forum.
Do not try me on this. You won't like the results.
Edit: Oh, and fix your sig. That image is more than 250 pixels high. Or I'll fix it for you.
Strictly speaking, there are several rules that cover this warning, in case anyone is curious.
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We understand you're new here, but you have managed, in 18 posts, to break several rules. This is an official warning (issues by llearch, seconded by me), and you need to make sure to calm down and become a real poster.
Otherwise, llearch may not be the one to ban you. Five-to-One says it's a race among the Moderators to see who does it first.
Reminds me of this site I go to where two mods had a contest to see who could ban this one trouble maker the most. The winner has been referred to as trigger happy ever since.
Whoopsie off topic
Honestly Aniz cant be Dan's father for genetic reasons. Dan takes heavily from his father appearance wise *and thickness of skull*.
Anyone think that this is likely the
roughest fight Dan and DP have had against each other?
In panel 2, there seems to be something on Dan's left wing. Look at top right of the box in rakyth's image post.
Quote from: rakyth on March 18, 2009, 07:17:34 PM
... On another note, in the image I shall provide herein, you shall see that Dan made a knife-edge with his wings. The crunch is likely Aliph losing his forearm bones. Dan apparently did learn from Abel's shapeshifting class.
Aliph seems to have greater strength though, in terms of muscles.
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4184/vol983post.png)
Dan seems to have quite exceeded Able's shapeshifting 101 class.
And yes, DP is larger than Dan and demons are noted for their strength, while Cubi aren't.
I thought Aary coached Dan in general wing shapeshifting. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's how he pulled of the Pac-Man gag so quickly. As opposed to, you know, instant mastery. He's been doing this stuff for a while now. (How much time has passed since "Check it out! Godzilla!"?)
Quote from: !KCA on March 19, 2009, 12:17:39 AM
I thought Aary coached Dan in general wing shapeshifting. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's how he pulled of the Pac-Man gag so quickly. As opposed to, you know, instant mastery. He's been doing this stuff for a while now. (How much time has passed since "Check it out! Godzilla!"?)
It's been a while, but we don't know how long a while. Aaryanna managed to coach him in tendril fine detail shapeshifting and Abel taught him enough to hide his headwings. The Pac-Man gag was Dan putting the two together.
From what we now know of Dan's motivations ("I vowed that I would become the best,,,"), it's almost certain that Dan does a lot of practice that we've simply never seen. It seems reasonable that sometime he would have decided that, distaste for being a Cubi or not, he needed to include his new abilities into his personal combat training regimen.
Quote from: inuhanyo on March 19, 2009, 01:05:22 AM
From what we now know of Dan's motivations ("I vowed that I would become the best,,,"), it's almost certain that Dan does a lot of practice that we've simply never seen. It seems reasonable that sometime he would have decided that, distaste for being a Cubi or not, he needed to include his new abilities into his personal combat training regimen.
Agreed -- considering the effort and time he's put into just the high heels training (and DDR for that matter), I think we can safely say that Dan is far more serious and dedicated to being the best than one might otherwise believe from his usual happy go lucky attitude. His reaction to falling into Kria's pit trap is another example. And as Aary observed - he does tend to be very unorthodox in his approach: http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_387.php
Has anyone ever thought that maybe every bit of Dan's slight stupidity and quite unorthodox methods of adventuring and doing practicly everything might just bea clever ruse? Maybe he is a secretly quite calculating person who hides his certain personality by blending in with public through moronic actions?
Or maybe it is 3 AM and sugar don't mix well with one's fragile mind. :bunny
While I'm not sure of the source of this, nor am I concerned enough to go find it, I believe it's been mentioned before that Dan is more than he seems in quite a few areas, particularly among those of intelligence.
Quote from: silentassassin on March 19, 2009, 04:06:43 AM
Has anyone ever thought that maybe every bit of Dan's slight stupidity and quite unorthodox methods of adventuring and doing practicly everything might just bea clever ruse? Maybe he is a secretly quite calculating person who hides his certain personality by blending in with public through moronic actions?
Tape's suggested something to that degree.
Quote from: Keaton the Black Jackal on March 19, 2009, 09:15:14 AM
Tape's suggested something to that degree.
I swear it used to be on his cast page at one point.
Quote from: silentassassin on March 18, 2009, 11:17:36 PM
Honestly Aniz cant be Dan's father for genetic reasons. Dan takes heavily from his father appearance wise *and thickness of skull*.
A theory that hasn't been explored is Aniz getting run over by a truck ten minutes after leaving SAIA following the scene we just witnessed (or otherwise being forcibly removed from the picture long in the past). So Abel's reaction to the Ti'Fiona name in the present day is because of Dee, not Aniz.
Quote from: DarkAudit on March 19, 2009, 10:42:23 AM
A theory that hasn't been explored is Aniz getting run over by a truck ten minutes after leaving SAIA following the scene we just witnessed (or otherwise being forcibly removed from the picture long in the past). So Abel's reaction to the Ti'Fiona name in the present day is because of Dee, not Aniz.
I'm more supportive of this theory than most, due to being most likely. However, there are also other possibilites. Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am) but I think I read somewhere that Edward had disappeared in the dragon territories of Furrae. If that's right, then it's more likely that Aniz and Edward are two different people........... because Aniz isn't insane enough to attempt going into dragon territories alone
you are correct Edward is in dragon territories ( i remember that now that i remember who he is)
also i'm sorry for all my stupid posts so no more stupid posts from me
Thought so. Anyway, can anyone think of what is likely to happen after DP's inevitable defeat?
I know it most likely won't happen but before DP returned i thought about the possibility of him returning and Kira's daughter (don't hate me more because i can't remember how to spell her name her name) might get hurt or worse trying to stop the fighting, but Amber would never do that.
probably not, no.
Personally, I can't see amber permenantly killing off DP, either.......... he's like the main comic baddie
Maybe DP will realize he can't beat Dan and escape just before Dan deals the final blow.
Possibly, but unlikely......... as far as I can tell (or at least my impression of DP goes) his ego is too large to tell him that he can ever be properly beaten
Sorry, I posted to late and this is more into the earlier theory by Buhamet but...Yeah, but if DP doesn't permanently die, then isn't it like comic book death? He'll just keep coming back, right? The point is is that he did have the power to be resurrected through Kria, but now that Dan is more powerful, and he could already beat Pegasus one-on-one, Kria knows that Dan is her daughter's friend, Dan knows how to permanently kill Dark Pegasus, it would be very, very anti-climatic to have him beat Dark Pegasus and not do it, right? IF you agree, the only sensible thing for Amber to do is to have a long, drawn out battle (pun intended), and then have Dan completely and utterly destroy Dark Pegasus' body. Unless the Dark God enters into the equation, Dark Pegasus would stay dead, and that would be a very satisfactory ending to me. If you don't agree, then Dan should lose, and be resurrected through one way or another later and go back for a rematch. At that point though, I think it'll be too much like OOTS- main character dead and all the others trying to bring him back to life.
Quote from: Buhamet on March 19, 2009, 03:11:34 PM
Thought so. Anyway, can anyone think of what is likely to happen after DP's inevitable defeat?
Not really. For all we know Dan loses. There's numerous ways he could be brought back if that does happen.
Quote from: Buhamet on March 19, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Aniz isn't insane enough to attempt going into dragon territories alone
Actually, it makes a tad more sense if he did. For some reason I was mulling this over on the way home, and my thoughts were as follows:
* Why would Edward want to go to the dragon territories in the first place? The most likely explanation to do something so crazy is that Dee asked him to, most likely as some kind of spy.
* Given that 'Cubi are probably not the only Creatures to be able to read thoughts and minds, it's a safe bet that Dragons, incredibly powerful, know how to do it as well - possibly through external spells rather than as a built-in ability.
* If you were going to send a spy to the Dragons, would you rather send a Being - who has to learn how to shield their mind - or a 'Cubi who is likely to be taught counterspells the moment they set foot in SAIA?
* Biggs said that 'the only reason he isn't dead is because they don't know where Destania is and they don't know Dan exists. If Edward was a Being it should be trivial to get that out of him - see above points. Note that dragons don't seem to like 'Cubi very much - no surprise if they'd want kill an Aniz-Edward when they've got all the information out of him.
Is any of this definitive? No. But it's food for thought, IMHO. It raises the possibility that
if Edward is Aniz, he agreed to help her fight the dragons in exchange for not being destroyed.
When I said that DP was like the main comic book baddie, I meant that he was more of a case of a reserve character in case amber couldn't think up any new people to be baddies at a certain moment (meaning no offence to amber)
While I agree that Dan not killing DP would be anti climatic, I just keep getting the general feeling that, as a character who is a baddie, that DP is too useful for possible future plots. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, I'm just saying that it's my opinion
Also, good point Tape, I hadn't considered that
I predict a copout where DP is either forced to retreat or work together with Dan. :bunny
Quote from: Tapewolf on March 19, 2009, 03:35:25 PM
Note that dragons don't seem together like 'Cubi very much - no surprise if they'd want kill an Aniz
I thought they only hated Dan's Clan. (sorry if this is after a few posts I was having a little trouble with my computer)
QuoteI thought they only hated Dan's Clan. (sorry if this is after a few post I was having a little trouble with my computer)
Don't worrry we keep some posts alive for a while occasionally to discuss them so no problem. And I don't remember anything about the dragons hating Dan's clan.
Neither do I, but the sheer fact that Destania is still trying to end the dragon race at least shows that she was probably in the dragon wars. And her hatred can last a looooooooong time
being from the clan she's in, I think the dragons probably saw it as being a clan thing instead of anything specifically to do with destania
Quote from: wildylover443 on March 19, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
I thought they only hated Dan's Clan. (sorry if this is after a few posts I was having a little trouble with my computer)
As llearch said, this isn't a chatroom - it's quite normal for someone to read a thread a few days after it was written. We draw the line at a few weeks, though.
As for the dragons, it's been suggested that they were involved in sparking the clan wars in a clandestine attempt to wipe out the 'Cubi. It's a theory that someone put around a few years ago. It might be completely bogus, but it would explain a few things regarding Destania.
Ok i understand now
and the reason i was worried is i don't want to be banned
Quote from: silentassassin on March 19, 2009, 04:01:32 PMAnd I don't remember anything about the dragons hating Dan's clan.
A little reminder then (http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_728.php)
Ah yes Fa'Lin's vague responses abound once more. Ranging from diabolicly inpricise to just what looks like her fun.
So yes there must be some grudge to the cyra clan maybe a very old grudge between the dragons and the clan founder. Given the age of cyra and the dragon race it is quite possible.
Wait- I thought it was a given that all dragons hated cubi and especially cyra. Maybe it was just that they really hated cyra and anyone who supported them or something? Isn't there some reference to that? Or was it just in another thread someone said that?
Not sure it is only said that dragons hate cyra.